The Draft Effect | How Does Slipstreaming Save Energy Whilst Cycling?

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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  3 роки тому +22

    Do you draft wherever possible? Or do you always do your turn on the front? Let us know in the comments below!

    • @OFFSHOREDOUG
      @OFFSHOREDOUG 3 роки тому +4

      Go out with local club. Draft normally at the end to not get dropped(Ollie). 5, 5 heart bypasses and overweight for a cyclist I need to draft.

    • @KenSmith-bv4si
      @KenSmith-bv4si 3 роки тому +4

      Do I draft? Of course I do I'm 65yrs, duh.

    • @charlesjames4194
      @charlesjames4194 3 роки тому +2

      Nope. Drafting AKA Tailgating is a crime and punishable by a fine. There is a significant increase in risk of harmful injury, property damage, and expensive medical bills when travelling too close, too fast, and on wet roads. I am not an actuary but I imagine that as the size of the peloton increases so does the risk of a larger crash for the man in the middle or the back of the pack.

    • @francisling3196
      @francisling3196 3 роки тому +4

      Everyone needs to take their turn, even if it's only for a few minutes

    • @OFFSHOREDOUG
      @OFFSHOREDOUG 3 роки тому +4

      @@charlesjames4194 get a life.

  • @noptimized
    @noptimized 3 роки тому +164

    Ollie never got dropped, he just made a conversion error from millimetres to centimetres!

    • @alynlambert4855
      @alynlambert4855 3 роки тому +2

      A little bit of a difference there Bridgewood... I thought 150cm felt like a long way to be off a wheel.

  • @aidedcamp
    @aidedcamp 3 роки тому +81

    Ollie: "As a rule of thumb if you're racing draft whenever you can"
    Important exception: don't draft when crossing the finish line if you want to win the race ... you'll be second in the best case ;P

  • @ralvesco
    @ralvesco 3 роки тому +77

    Ollie is a brilliant presenter, congrats!

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler 3 роки тому +192

    Unfortunately you have to stay IN the draft to benefit, doesn't work if you get dropped...

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 роки тому +55

      This is unfortunate, it's true.

    • @iberiksoderblom
      @iberiksoderblom 3 роки тому +2

      LOL :-D

    • @svensayre1189
      @svensayre1189 3 роки тому +2

      light job at Ollie big oof

    • @coachrobwille4176
      @coachrobwille4176 3 роки тому

      You only get dropped because you are not as good as a rider as the others. Drafting is all in your mind.

    • @leonelgraca
      @leonelgraca 3 роки тому

      Learned that the hard way, never to allow to get dropped as better quit all together if one is on the limit of keeping up already.

  • @markolazarevic4209
    @markolazarevic4209 3 роки тому +8

    First the caffeine video. Than this one. I like videos with science behind them. Those are great!!

  • @sanslaq
    @sanslaq 3 роки тому +46

    Brilliant to see all these numbers in a single video!

    • @PsyKeks
      @PsyKeks 3 роки тому

      Too bad the numbers were partly not true 😅 (When cinverting the units on distances, the decimal point shifts. They equate 500cm to 0,5m, which is not correct. Now we can't be sure, what numbers are true.)

    • @miembrosgibran
      @miembrosgibran 3 роки тому

      YEAH I CAN COUNT, THIS IS AMAZING!

    • @Kimberly_Sparkles
      @Kimberly_Sparkles 3 роки тому +1

      @@PsyKeks they added a caption that Ollie mean millimeters

    • @PsyKeks
      @PsyKeks 3 роки тому

      @@Kimberly_Sparkles Ah, okay. Better than nothing, I guess 😅

    • @moreseun
      @moreseun 2 роки тому +1

      @@PsyKeks You are right, I had the same observation as I'm sure others did. However your spelling mistake puts the quality of your contribution in a dim light 😄. Seriously though it's easy to verify the truth since he did reference the study and it's author. I'm going to check it out now for myself 👍

  • @bikepackingadventure7913
    @bikepackingadventure7913 3 роки тому +85

    So is this why drivers tailgate my arse whilst cycling, so they can draft me?
    Now I understand why, and there was me thinking they did it to intimidate me off the road……silly me 😂😂😁

    • @taufikabidin412
      @taufikabidin412 3 роки тому +2

      Actually, having something behind you can clean up the air flow and make you more aerodynamic.

    • @Aeronwor
      @Aeronwor 3 роки тому +19

      Also slamming their horns to cheer you on. Truly inspiring to be on the roads with such support.

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ 3 роки тому

      Make sure you tell them to take their turn though.

    • @DHS_Studio
      @DHS_Studio 3 роки тому

      @@taufikabidin412 also clean up your fart? lol

  • @3dr1ch
    @3dr1ch 3 роки тому +6

    Nice to have a video that’s actually teaching us something, rather than selling us something for a change. 👍

  • @julesvereijken188
    @julesvereijken188 3 роки тому +7

    Best GCN tech video yet! Cool to see a paper from my university make a surprise appearance!

  • @stephankyle6460
    @stephankyle6460 3 роки тому +78

    At 300+ ftp while under 80kg ollie is probably stronger than 90%of the "Ollie got dropped" commenters.

    • @jasonmcgrody9472
      @jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому +5

      No doubt. I have an FTP of 290 but I'm probably 15kg heavier (taller and overweight)

    • @manuel7102
      @manuel7102 3 роки тому +8

      It's all in good fun

    • @michaelb1761
      @michaelb1761 3 роки тому +7

      I think you're being generous to the commenters.

    • @richcrompton6891
      @richcrompton6891 3 роки тому +4

      I don’t think there is any shame being dropped by ex-pros who put out too many watts to keep the unit solid. If Ollie had been included, I think Si would have been beaten far sooner. Their team persuit skills were highly suspect and were more like 4 individuals than a well drilled squad. Manon should have been brought in to drill them properly. She is the one at GCN with those skills in abundance

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 3 роки тому +1

      Not probably, definitely.

  • @Solarsystem50
    @Solarsystem50 3 роки тому +9

    Love the science technical clips. Ollie does a great job explaining just a bout everything. Viewers, you should take notes.

  • @The_Cotswold_Engineer
    @The_Cotswold_Engineer 3 роки тому +4

    My favourite is tractor drafting! Always good fun and you get plenty of warning when they are going to do something like brake or turn off as the engine note changes and the whin of the gears changes! Had a couple of amazing tractor rides over the years!

    • @moreseun
      @moreseun 2 роки тому

      Haha Strava segments are getting smashed all over due to tractor drafting!

  • @fixieebro
    @fixieebro 3 роки тому +3

    Great vid. Ollie! Thanks for bringing all that info together. And thanks graphics dept. for using fixies in the animation! Appreciate the love... 😉

  • @martinandersson5833
    @martinandersson5833 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks Ollie for making the effort, reading all the studies. Great video. This clip gave me some new information. Much appreciated👍

  • @Avioto
    @Avioto 3 роки тому +34

    Whoever is doing the animations deserves a raise 💷

  • @cyclenutter2715
    @cyclenutter2715 3 роки тому +8

    00:08 'Like a sh*t, pushing through the sea'
    Oliver Bridgewood 2021

  • @CyclingSteveL
    @CyclingSteveL 3 роки тому +98

    When a car is sat right behind me I ride faster not because of aerodynamics but because I'm absolutely pooing myself.

  • @dietrickkooyman2754
    @dietrickkooyman2754 2 роки тому

    I’m glad the information was covered for cars as well. It explains why I was almost sucked into a car that I was drafting due to its wake.

  • @gefloigle
    @gefloigle 3 роки тому +21

    +10 GCN points! Woohoo!

    • @LarsRR
      @LarsRR 3 роки тому +6

      They didn’t accept mine at Tesco. Does anyone have the GCN support hotline?

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 роки тому +4

      @@LarsRR 😂

  • @stevedawson2390
    @stevedawson2390 3 роки тому +1

    Great to see all of the different situations on the road taken into account. Fantastic video very informative

  • @davtwill531
    @davtwill531 3 роки тому +23

    Ollie really needs to revise his distances for metres, millimetres and centimetres !!!! How many times did he get it wrong today 👨‍🎓

    • @PsyKeks
      @PsyKeks 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah. I don't really know which ones were true, now. 😅

  • @kevinmills3329
    @kevinmills3329 3 роки тому +22

    I would like to see you recreate an entire race using only figurines

  • @dennistay9980
    @dennistay9980 3 роки тому +9

    My heart went out to Ollie when he referenced to when he was dropped 😭

  • @stuartfreedman6854
    @stuartfreedman6854 3 роки тому +3

    Always alway always be extra cautious when coming up on a stranger. Keep your distance until you see how steady a pace they carry. I learned this the hard way a long time ago.

    • @michaelb1761
      @michaelb1761 3 роки тому

      "How close should you follow?" How much do you trust the rider in front?

  • @maxrevell3830
    @maxrevell3830 3 роки тому +2

    The Mavic service Peugeot 504 model is a thing of beauty

  • @NicolineXD
    @NicolineXD 3 роки тому

    Loved the presentation in this video, with the figurines and graphics along with Ollies way of explaining. Made me understand everything clearly, amazing job 👏 And now I want those figurines

  • @donerbude5828
    @donerbude5828 3 роки тому +27

    2:42 why are they not wearing helmets

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 роки тому +9

      😂 Good point!

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd 3 роки тому +1

      @@gcntech Quite shocked in this new world we live in helmet less models,

  • @jliho1
    @jliho1 3 роки тому +1

    Loved this video. Keep on the good work GCN.

  • @roebbiej
    @roebbiej 3 роки тому +2

    Very informative, thanks Ollie!

  • @inusarariderdiary2034
    @inusarariderdiary2034 3 роки тому

    ollie always make me smile.....very great presenter!!!!!

  • @mikefule
    @mikefule 3 роки тому

    Excellent video. I typically ride alone and occasionally side by side with my wife. I haven't ridden with a group for 30 years and when I did, it was with a touring club and we found natural positions in the group depending on personality types, friendships with other riders, and so on. I had genuinely never realised that the savings from slipstreaming were so great. No wonder I feel feeble when I hear the average speeds that other people report! D'oh!

  • @p.t.i.campana5730
    @p.t.i.campana5730 3 роки тому +1

    Drafting saved my life this morning!😁 The pace of the ride was fairly high for me.

  • @ericarnold1739
    @ericarnold1739 3 роки тому +3

    Love when Ollie goes full scientist!

  • @JoshPeak
    @JoshPeak 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely love getting into the science and maths of cycling. Could you do an episode that actually shows the maths and formulas for the dominant forces? Go a bit deeper for the nerdiest of us? 🤓

  • @mopedvieh
    @mopedvieh 3 роки тому +12

    CFD is fine for Ollie, but when it comes to cm or mm...things get tricky 🤔

  • @paulhowell7103
    @paulhowell7103 3 роки тому +1

    when i was a first cat rider in the 80s sometimes we would draft behind buses !!! the faces of the passengers on the back seats was priceless !!!

  • @XFly170
    @XFly170 3 роки тому +1

    Drafting behind even larger vehicles such as a bus or a semi-trailer can not only reduce your drag to pretty much zero but also (if you’re willing to get close enough) provide you with thrust due to the vortices that are shedding behind in the low-pressure zone creating a suction effect. Just ask Evandro Portela… he managed to draft a semi-trailer on a freeway at 124km/h. Look up “bike draft 124km/h”… just remember, don’t blame me if you try it yourself and end up in a hospital.

  • @hisdadjames4876
    @hisdadjames4876 3 роки тому

    Really great video. Already understood drafting but it was beautifully well explained here👏👏👏👏

  • @Jimabaz
    @Jimabaz 3 роки тому +4

    Respect to Tim Declercq, the guy who is always in the front of the peleton dragging it along

  • @andrifsig
    @andrifsig 3 роки тому

    informative video as always is to be expected from Ollie.
    I remember once while I was touring with a front and rear panniers, about as aerodynamic as Connor Dunne on a brick bike, I was flying down a long hill fully loaded, probably reached about 65kmh, which is a lot with panniers on. I am managing the bike and staying upright and the wind noise is pretty much blocking everything else. I notice by the side of me a small car passing me and as soon as he has his nose just in front of my wheel it was almost like cycling in a vacuum for a hair of a split of a second and then I felt a severe block of wind resistance coming in from the opposite side where the first car passed me. I almost lost control of my bike and nearly swerved into the next car passing me. A real life education in drafting and cycling into a wall of air at speed.

    • @DrewKime
      @DrewKime 3 роки тому

      I used to ride a motorcycle, and passing trucks in a crosswind was always exciting.

  • @louisebeckett7104
    @louisebeckett7104 3 роки тому

    I see what you did there with the subtle bike change in the background!

  • @antonioguadalupe5365
    @antonioguadalupe5365 3 роки тому

    love to watch your program amazing!!!! GCN...... Yahoooo!!!

  • @deuxroueschamoiscream8626
    @deuxroueschamoiscream8626 3 роки тому +2

    Oli my dude, you look sharp with the glasses man.

  • @NickBorders
    @NickBorders 3 роки тому +5

    Could you cover drafting etiquette in a group or even coming up on a group of riders you're not part of? How can you join in without being awkward, if at all?

  • @boyobane1590
    @boyobane1590 3 роки тому +2

    I'm pretty sure having a lorry behind you reduces your drag, because I can cruise at 25mph when I'm being chased by a lorry, while I usually cruise between 15-18mph

  • @helmiwijaya7
    @helmiwijaya7 3 роки тому +24

    00:40 connor said , "we have to go without him", and then the bike behind is swapped

    • @helmiwijaya7
      @helmiwijaya7 3 роки тому +1

      ah and then Ollie explained it :(

  • @jamesmckenzie3532
    @jamesmckenzie3532 3 роки тому

    Ollie as a science presenter! What a great idea. But cm does not equal mm. Great job. And the fix for the bike shifting was wild. +10...

  • @tubbytoast2
    @tubbytoast2 3 роки тому

    What !!! They Changed the bike in the background ,, never noticed,, Ollie's hair was to mesmerising

  • @boudoir00
    @boudoir00 3 роки тому +1

    I just watched three grown up men having fun with a digger and now Olli with play with plastic bikes and cars. What a great start to a rainy Bank Holiday Monday..!

  • @Kobe404
    @Kobe404 3 роки тому

    Didn't find it useful in the slightest as I'm in the Connor Dunne mould...but I did find it incredibly interesting! Great stuff Ollie, these videos are great for us nerds!

  • @nickrossuk
    @nickrossuk 3 роки тому

    Really interesting video - thank you. I can imagine Ollie’s heart sank a little in the planning meeting when this idea for a video came up…

  • @UltimateBallaPOM
    @UltimateBallaPOM 3 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic video!🤝🏿

  • @JMcLeodKC711
    @JMcLeodKC711 3 роки тому +7

    Drafting while swimming or running is definitely a thing. In the water, you can ride the wake of a swimmer in front of you but off to the side.

    • @sl077766
      @sl077766 3 роки тому +2

      It works with air too - it's why geese etc fly in a large V formation

  • @hugobci
    @hugobci 3 роки тому +2

    Sometimes riding uphill the trucks passing a feel centimeters from my skin actually helps to climb.

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde 3 роки тому

    Professor O does it again! Brilliant. I really love your bicycle physics vlogs and honestly most of your presentations. There is no shame in being dropped when facing the UNDEFEATED Siborg. Resistance is Futile.

  • @davidburgess741
    @davidburgess741 3 роки тому

    Solo I really like traffic assisted aero. I can get a 5mph boost from a large truck on a large shouldered highway. At a stoplight the truck gathers a large entourage behind it prolonging the effect especially when heavily laden. A crosswind magnifies the effect. Vary the position on the shoulder toward the edge for traffic going the other way. Never push your luck in the traffic area though. Connor is much like a tandem team. He has The power of 2 riders but not twice the frontal area. Reynolds number is also lower than average ,similar to a ship with a longer waterline. Finally the weight and aero drag of the bike are minuscule proportionally to a smaller rider. He must have been a great domestique!

  • @pmiller7886
    @pmiller7886 3 роки тому +1

    Good stuff Ollie, cheers.

  • @hebrews11vs5
    @hebrews11vs5 3 роки тому

    Ollie is quite the nerd. Easily my favorite gcn presenter. 😆

  • @tomeklubomir
    @tomeklubomir 3 роки тому

    Great video Ollie, as usual 👍
    Hope UCI is watching as well, to make racing more fair. Odds are always stacked against a breakaway rider/group. TV Moto is only allowed behind a breakaway if gap bigger than 30s. Where’s peloton has always at least one TV Moto in front at all times, but often more than one (TV, Security, Photo/Media, Commissaries). As if they didn’t have enough fresh legs in the peloton from all the drafting.
    UCI please allow a TV Moto in front of a breakaway at all times, to keep it fair.

  • @jamesg9197
    @jamesg9197 3 роки тому

    The 'We'll have to go on without him..' audio cue was perfection.

  • @gaborozorai3714
    @gaborozorai3714 3 роки тому +2

    When the peloton fills a wide road from edge to edge, doing 60 kph in the run-up to a sprint finish, they must be pushing a lot of air. So what is the effect on those riding at the front? I've always wondered how the same lead-out riders can keep those speeds up for several minutes, so it must be significant.

  • @kstethespokes1051
    @kstethespokes1051 3 роки тому +1

    Came to say how much I like the new graphics but I like the model cyclists even more than those! Collectors items for the GCN shop?

  • @jasonmcgrody9472
    @jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому +7

    Mom: Don't play in traffic!
    Me: But Ollie said it's more aero.

  • @glennoc8585
    @glennoc8585 3 роки тому

    Drafting is a godsend on a group ride when your doing
    So true about being number five or six at the back, you really need to get close and low otherwise you work harder. In a long chain you can feel the efficiency drop as you go from 3 to 5 to 7. Definitely drops off.

  • @mg1060
    @mg1060 3 роки тому +4

    In the future could you go in to more specifics on how a riders physical size effects the draft please. I am only 170 mm tall and weigh 72 kg and often hear complaints and moaning from the bigger riders that they get no draft riding my wheel. Exactly how much less draft are they getting off me as opposed to a rider of their same size or bigger? Thanks Ollie.

    • @CyclingSteveL
      @CyclingSteveL 3 роки тому +2

      You must have to pedal really fast to keep up with regular-sized riders ¦D

  • @BRC76
    @BRC76 3 роки тому +1

    Top video Ollie. 👏👍

  • @diogofso
    @diogofso 3 роки тому

    Ollie playing with the toy car is very funny 😂😂😂

  • @neilpalmer1492
    @neilpalmer1492 3 роки тому

    Solid info - thanks

  • @dezoksiribon
    @dezoksiribon 3 роки тому +10

    olli forgot his science glasses when saying, that 500 cm is a half of a meter, cause with the glasses he wouldnt do this mistake:D

  • @jeremypritchard569
    @jeremypritchard569 3 роки тому

    Great video Ollie. Really interesting.

  • @deswhite8268
    @deswhite8268 3 роки тому +2

    white orbea at start then a metallic blue bike - quick respray by Manon?

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 3 роки тому

    Very interesting video. I really enjoyed it.

  • @lukelarrea7605
    @lukelarrea7605 3 роки тому

    Excellent video

  • @bonzainutter
    @bonzainutter 3 роки тому +1

    Why do the pros not use a tri spoke wheel anymore?

  • @voltgan
    @voltgan 3 роки тому

    I notice a draft benefit while riding with mosquitoes. Serious marginal gains.
    Great video!

  • @iberiksoderblom
    @iberiksoderblom 3 роки тому +10

    I was drafted once...
    And ended up in Bosnia, Irak and Afghanistan !

  • @sebastiengagnon7510
    @sebastiengagnon7510 3 роки тому +1

    RGT and Zwift should use your video to improve their drafting physics. (Don’t know for other apps).

  • @jorstvondoom684
    @jorstvondoom684 3 роки тому

    Cracking video, thanks! Now I need some mates to ride with 🤣

  • @richardslatcher4572
    @richardslatcher4572 3 роки тому +5

    “500cm or half a meter” is that what you say when you get dropped? I was only 1/2 a meter of the back. Reality 500cm or 5 meters 🤣. Is that another 10 points? 😁

  • @ygtcbee23
    @ygtcbee23 3 роки тому

    Great video Olie! All that's missing is the white lab coat

  • @jacobjohnsson-werneremileh1944
    @jacobjohnsson-werneremileh1944 3 роки тому

    Hey Ollie, need your help! I recently purchased a 2020 Scott Addict RC30 road bike which I love. Except for one part: the disc brake rubbing. When I'm out of my saddle putting the power down and rocking my bike side to side, on a sprint or climb, there's an annoying rub that has become louder and louder. It even happens when I'm hit by a big gust of crosswind. It seems to come from one side, but I'm not sure. I believe this is due to the fork flexing and thus the pads coming in contact with the rotor due to the little amounts of tolerance. I have flat-mount Ultegra hydraulic disc brakes. I've been to the local mechanic twice to no avail. The rotor is straight, the calliper is centered, the rotor is torqued correctly to the hub and the thru axle is tightened enough. My last thought is that maybe the pads need to be removed and the pistons cleaned with some degreaser. Is it possible the pistons aren't retracting enough? Please help, this is the last thing stopping me from fully enjoying my new ride!

  • @sl077766
    @sl077766 3 роки тому

    There was an episode of Mythbusters where they tested vehicles drafting articulated lorries and found the effects beneficial over 100m behind. I have a 100 mile ride coming up next Sunday and know I'm nowhere near fit enough but hoping to tag behind a few fitter people (or just ride at 10kph for 16 hours :D )

  • @DonutEndurance
    @DonutEndurance 3 роки тому +1

    I got to items I’d like a deep dive into. First, does the weight penalty for clip-on aerobars out weigh the aerodynamic benefits (time trials and gravel events)? Second, how much damage does a handlebar bag do to aerodynamics?

    • @adambrickley1119
      @adambrickley1119 2 роки тому

      1st question is no, they actually tested this on gcn.

  • @allanrodzinski5850
    @allanrodzinski5850 3 роки тому

    Here is what I need - a wind shield...could be two varieties, road bars, road bars w/ tri bars. It does not need to be overly large like fairings of old, just a small bullet shaped transparent canopy (in orange, lime green like a Mountain Dew bottle, and blue) a rider could use to slip that air around the body much better. Of course its not UCI approved...I'm just riding to the store.

  • @Tom-xn5zj
    @Tom-xn5zj 3 роки тому +1

    NERD ALERT: at the end of the video, I guess you are talking about your c(d)*A Ollie, which is the result of the multiplication of c(d), which actually resembles the coefficient of drag, and your frontal area A. A c(d) of 0.19 would be absolutely unheard of in a cycling context, apart from faired recumbents of course.
    still a great video, thx for all the great content

  • @poweredbyplants416
    @poweredbyplants416 3 роки тому +4

    Amazing how many never stick their nose in the wind. We the lone wolves are not afraid.

  • @grahambarker2186
    @grahambarker2186 3 роки тому

    mistakes so what.....love ollies presentations....always good and entertaining.....

  • @thepie4052
    @thepie4052 3 роки тому

    Great vid Ollie. 10:00 mins in, is this how Conor feels when drafting?

  • @Mmalebogo
    @Mmalebogo 3 роки тому

    One of the most interesting topics in cycling, and one that we often engage without much understanding. Thank Olly for the crazy depiction

  • @BarryJHoffman
    @BarryJHoffman 3 роки тому

    Was this video made just to have an excuse to play with those adorable little cycler toys? Just kidding. Phenomenal video integrating cycling, math and science. Thank you!

  • @geisslersonMC
    @geisslersonMC 3 роки тому

    before all the corona-stuff started we did alumni grouprides of more than 10 riders. it was bonkers how fast the group was going compared to the felt exhaustion. riding 30 kph on my own is way more taxing than going 34+ kph and doing a snappy pull every other half hour. :D

    • @geisslersonMC
      @geisslersonMC 3 роки тому

      @gcn what happend to the orbea shortly shown in the video??? is it swapped for the inflite on purpose? :D

  • @ostrokolowiec
    @ostrokolowiec 2 роки тому

    I was riding once 1m behing the big post truck, 50km/h was so effortless

  • @OndrejMajernik
    @OndrejMajernik 3 роки тому +4

    Hey Olie. I'm not a native speaker but your numbers are broken somehow or I did miss something. Watch from 7:58 to 8:07. Can you clarify if you talk about wheel to wheel distance of rider to rider distance?

    • @MattH6565
      @MattH6565 3 роки тому +1

      He means millimetres, and it's wheel to wheel distance should be "between 150mm and 500mm from your front wheel to their rear wheel"

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 роки тому +3

      What @HattMarris said!

    • @billbetts9354
      @billbetts9354 3 роки тому +1

      That is why I am in the comment section! My mind is wrinkling! 150cm is 60 inches but only 1/2 a meter???? So thanks for this. And Ollie, this is a great video. Thanks.

    • @sardendibs
      @sardendibs 3 роки тому

      @@MattH6565 Which you’d normally refer to as 15 cm and 50 cm. Millimetres are mainly used for the really small and/or detailed stuff (-:

  • @matthewshadrick3094
    @matthewshadrick3094 3 роки тому

    Unrelated BUT Ollies laptop is awesome

  • @Zeekos126
    @Zeekos126 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed this. Would like to have heard a bit more on the variation of drafting benefit compared to the speed of the group.
    Do the % reductions in drag(compared to a single rider) remain constant, regardless of the speed of the group🤔?

  • @nerigarcia7116
    @nerigarcia7116 3 роки тому

    Whoa, the bike changed in the background

  • @coachrobwille4176
    @coachrobwille4176 3 роки тому +1

    I never draft I always ride alone. All my bikes have aerobars. Aerobars are always more aero than drafting

  • @hambernat6444
    @hambernat6444 Рік тому

    Why didnt you mentioned suction force of aerodynamics for last rider?
    This is also important, apart from sonic stream and pushing someone forwards from behind by filling out airhole, it's important to mention that last rider is also affected by sucking force, what is causing him to be in worse position then someone in front of him.

  • @vdiffdave
    @vdiffdave 3 роки тому

    You want comments with questions for a future video. Here you are Olly.
    What's to stop a team of riders having off-set wheels so that they can overlap and get closer? If the wheels were offset by 12", they'd be able to get a full wheel diameter closer in a team TT.
    Also, everyone knows that TT stands for time trial, as in, 'TT Bike'. Does TTT stand for team time trial?