12 BEST MAGES to Abuse BOT LANE right now in Season 9
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Rekkles has been spamming just mages for weeks now and there are some really free wins to be had if you do it properly!
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12 BEST MAGES to Abuse BOT LANE right now in Season 9 - Ігри
Vladimir is also great, especialy with Yuumi!
Hashinshin is probably foaming at the mouth seeing this
Akshat nyeehh twitch chat, I told you mages are overpowered
@@5headplayerr865 He is actually right ! Seeing Ap champions in top tiers in every damn role is enough proof that AP items are kinda overpowered ! The fact that Riot gave the power to ap champion to deal good damage to turrets just didn't help and just made marksmen look irrelevant !
@@Hadhoudtn lol no
A few hours I saw ParnstarZilean playing Veigar, since Draven got banned. I didn't know why he played Veigar and this video is the answer.
Been having a bit of lane crisis on where I want to play. Love mages but can’t play mid (friend refuses to learn another). This video is great! Going to slowly go through these
Genuinely surprised at no vlad mention. We've all seen what vlad yuumi can do.
Electro Ahri is good too. Laning phase good. Synergises well with supports.Lvl 6 power spike is huge.
Bot lane zoe is so good
I tried Viktor in the bot it felt pretty ok actually.
It is.Viktor scales well just like Cass.
Espesialy with his new w evolve
I could taste the salt at 2:48 “skill button” we all know it
These mini guides should give you everything you need to start but good luck !
You forgot Taliyah, very strong bot with cc supp but you don't even need one.
Why teeto isn't part of the list? :c
@@rossobrink8097 its obvious the devil himself can be played anywhere.
Vel'Koz. You forgot carry Vel'koz botlane. It's nutty.
Ayyy preach fellow squid :D
@@JunJun.. My duo buddy tends to be the squid, but I'm supportive.
Viktor Azir Can work too and from bruisers irelia can do well with agroo supports
YOU forgot LUX bot lane lux actually can CS good in bot and she can harass the bot lane so much and get a lot of kills mid to late game especially paired with supports that can work with her amazingly
She mid to late game? She isnt really good lategame. Her main strength is catch potential and its poking, which isnt that valuable in lategame, because ppl group way more. Also she is really easy to kill
@@justhair17 that is true but if you know what you doing and she catch you out chasing her she can explode you completely that's like saying syndra easy to kill around those points which are true but it's about if you know what you doing
Whold Ryze work? Its the same idea as Kassio.
Plus, I immagine hes gonna be rally good in teamfight later on.
Gave it a several sessions of an attempt before and after mages got popular in bot lane. His early pressure is very weak if your support isn't able to set up "trades"; I mean, nowhere near the pressure level of Ezreal as a similar scaling champion.
i've been playing Karma bot for like 2 years now , with kleptomancy seraph into magic pen, and i out damage every single person in the game ,
you can definetly try viktor bot, and ziggs is still one of my favourites , i just poke them out of the lane and im playing it with Tp and low cd on ult - presence of mind+ ultimate hunter . then there is that vlad bot that can get nuts with a good supp
Now I have cheese picks to play for my League tournament
Who is surprised that mages are dominating bot lane? People are just now realizing how broken mages and ap in general is? hashin is actually right when he said ap and mages are bullshit. They have quite literally everything and zero downsides.
Been doing heim bot since the patch and who knew its meta in bot right now
What about ahri? I find her to be good bot as well
Ivern Rengar or Ivern Leona xD Aftershock and Guardian. combo for the huge shields and speed buffs.
No Vlad, Karthus, or Xerath? Those 3 I see the most aside from Syndra and Veigar
As a silver, whenever i try to pick a mage in botlane, entire team goes nuts, flame and trollpick
Playing a mage bot with an a full tank jinx top, a ryze jgl, a Darius as mid and a j4 support like in my last game isnt funny. At all.
TheUndeadShark once I picked Karthus and I was first pick, then my support picked Jhin and the midlaner picked a support and they wanted to force me to go mid but thankfully someone dodged, but other than that people usually just question me about it then dont say/do much else. I am hoping with the bot picks in Worlds people will become more accepting.
It souds like fun tho, atleast none complains about trollpicks
those people deserve the itchiest nuts with no arms to scratch.
I don't like ppl playing mage over adc if we don't have another carry in the team like master yi, yasuo, tryndamere or twitch jungle. Doing baron and objective become horrible without one of these.
played lux botlane, we did really well but my support didn't buy a support item early cuz he thought I was trolling and farmed also as lulu. In bronze III. lux botlane was pretty opressive against heimer kaisa.
Hi, what would you think of a Neeko build that goes ROA into Nashor's into Litch bane? It's more ap that the glacial one, and you also get to abuse your autos. I would onestly only use this if the enemy has a frontline that I won't be able to get through with spells alone.
Roa isnt good on early game champ imo, I dont know why none builds nashors tho, I guess because of nerf of guinsoo
Gold/Plat - Brand, I got around 80% W/R. But I'm using Xerath as supp and it's pretty much same - around 75% W/R.
Zero risks, super range, stun, slow, and 2 item power spike can literally one shot any kind of ADC.
lol the glacial build that i've been using is now getting popular huh.. hopefully it wont nerf
Once again hashinshin was right 3 months before it happened
Honestly i was expecting lux to be in this list.
I play Lux bot lane... Ekko and Nashers tooth = Lux APC
Viktor has been really good bot, I had decent success with Akali and Kayle but they're more skill match up's, Anivia can just constant wave clear and threaten with QE, and Ahri bot whether burst or Glacial as well.
Yes, yes, 1000x yes, fk the meta.
What about Ziggs with his insane tower sieging pressure?
People pick mages en botlane to have a better early-mid game preasure and more utility, and of course ap dmg to counter those full ad teams, but ziggs has none of that his laning phase is bad, he has no reliable cc and if you think about it he is a worse version of Ezreal, there is no reason to pick him over conventional ads and syndra/heimer/neeko
yeah lmao in very late game he kills any turret in less than 2 secs
I think ziggs is just to bad at the moment, he isnt even viable mid.
Ziggs counters heimer pretty hard so there's that.
Azir botlane and kayle ap bot is underrated
Tbh I was expecting Viktor on here, I know he aint the strongest but together with a morgana thats one disgusting lane to play into, with the perma cc and lategame dmg from viktor.
i honestly expected for Ziggs xp
Oh boy i've abused veigar bot as a flex pick for 2 seasons now. Can't wait to get it picked or banned now :-)
Fast rap breakdowns
So basically
Glacial Augment and Red tree
What about Xerath, Malzahar, Vladimir, Lux or Ivern?
Xerath is just isnt that good at this moment, malsahar have unreliable dmg(idk maybe with sup its ok) ivern does no dmg even full ap
Is everyone forgetting Vel'koz?
Vlad has terrible waveclear so he will pretty much sit under tower all game, not to mention if you play vlad bot you will be behind levels = low abilities damage and will need 4 items to actually be viable, meta now game end early so playing him is not a good idea.
Lux also has terrible waveclear and weak damage early, Heimerdinger and syndra are better
Xerath i can see he play bot, but I would prefer ziggs, xerath R is trash
Ivern, just search tyler1 ivern and you’ll see if it works or not
Malz works, I’ve been playing him quite a bit, I think his best rune is unsealed spellbook since he don’t have reliable poke ability
you didnt mention sums though, that would help
You forgot Velkoz and Ziggs.
I'm glad I dont main botlane. It pisses me off even as a midlaner.. And to top it off if I counterpick syndra or heimer mid, then boom renekton mid, or Camille or some shit.
Well what about lux apc?
Dr. Yuumi
I can't believe you didn't list Vel'Koz. I play him bot as a carry all the time and Vel even got played bot as a carry during pla- ins last year at worlds
well, last year was last year lul.
@@mauer1 the champion hasn't been buffed/nerfed at all for a year and he does pretty well in most matchups if u know what ur doing
@@JunJun.. but not in all team comps.
@@mauer1 mmm I guess but it isn't the end of the world if you try and force it
New Viktor is insane in the bot lane. Try him out guys, free elo
My inner hashinshin is telling me no.....but my heart is telling me to abuse magez cuz its the meta
Like straight up lux in the adc role has been very underrated
no it hasnt
With a lot of hook supports being so popular, Malz APC is a good idea. Now pls HEAR ME OUT: why should the support try to get hooked so that the ADC stays alive when u can have the ADC/APC be able to not get cced on their own. Also his dmg is insane and he has cc on his own (especially after 6). And let's not forget that his W can be used to block hooks.
Whenever ppl list mages for bot, nobody ever says vel’koz but I’ve 1 shot my fair share of adcs with his ult off of a single cc spell from my support. Also don’t sleep on the viktor buffs!
Mages are stupid op. High ap high pen high survability with best defensive item in the game zyonias which also gives high ap + all MR items in the game are absolutely terrible. Riot needs to pull their heads out of there arses.
Tip for bot lane veigar: You need a tank support. Most effective support for you is a Sion. Sion deals a lot of damage as a support which veigar really lacks early. Any tanks though since you need a frontline/bait so enemy can't focus you.
He's my to go pick when I'm autofilled bot. Better play something you know than try something on ranked.
Worst part is toxic teammates tho, sometimes they flame me even if Im 5 0 lol
Best in Mid best in Top best in Bot
DEFINETLY NOT OP
Better buff them again
Good thing you main Mordekaiser so you have a saying in whos op in who is not
@@milosdjokic8065 if you still think morde is op i you are either low elo or really boosted
Mages arent the best in bot tho
@@liersiron5444 Oh yeah they are, they are super annoying at 1700 elo.
maybe nurf mage early game power again?
so basically mage plus that rune
Zilean is pretty good too!
Pair it with another mage and you'll make their adc useless
Still zoe supports*
Weren't you going to give out the points from IKON?
What about ziggs or viktor?
Way too weak in early
@@TheUndeadShark yeah but they are hyper carries
wheres the mundo guide :c
AP Kog?
How about kassadin XD he is good cause he is scaling champion
Must be a hella work to make such a video, I do not play anymore cause you know.. Life right :) but i stay updtaed anyway :) and i still apreciate the work behind your video, keep it up man
Does anyone know the first background song used? 0:30-2:50
Come RIP ADC 2020
And people said I was trolling with Ekko bot, I've been playing it way before this video...
well you were trolling. Riot made several changes so that could happen even against guys who can play.
Wouldn't Viktor also be good? He's got long range poke, a shield, slows with w upgrade and good dmg over the course of the game. A supp helps him over his weak early and makes it easier to pick up a few kills.
I think the video is aiming more for the 'laning/early fights phase', Viktor doesn't quite come online too early into the game where they may transition into fighting early objectives
ziggs?
Taliyah
I had to stop at "slaming balls in my face" cus i almost died.
XD I audably said "you 2 need to get a damn room then."
Then the guy next to me on the bus gave me a dirty look
mm nice
Is Karthus bot good? It used to be a thing
The thing is why play him bot when in jungle is op
After his last nerfs, people haven't been keen on playing him, notably trying to get a kill with that first ult is pretty hard with its low base damage
i won my series with heimer bot 👍
I hate this so much, just try to pick an adc without a dash nowadays, you’ll get shit on by any mage bot.
Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain and Swain
You forgot Swain
As if mage supports weren't annoying enough, every other mage item gives Magic Penetration.
Where s viktor
HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I WONDER WHAT ITEMS I SHOULD BUILD
This is one of the reasons why mage items needs to be nerfed..
The issue isn't items. It's the mid lane meta being full of assassins (Zed Talon LeBlanc Qiyana Ekko), fighters (Irelia Yasuo Renekton Pantheon Aatrox) and roaming mages (TF Taliyah Ryze Aurelion Sol).
See of these bot lane mages are actually considered trolling if you blind pick them mid lane.
And another controversial topic: Marksman mids. Tristana, Corki, Lucian and Quinn have really good matchups in mid atm.
Why? Jungle have tanks, fighters and assassins, top lane has tanks, fighters and a few picks from basically every class, mid has mages and assassins, support has tanks and mages. Why can't the bot lane carry role be marksmen and something else? Why does it HAS to be marksmen only?
No.. Glacial Augment needs to be nerfed.
nah magic resist items need to be buffed, literaly the best magic resist item is BANSHEE VEILS! A MAGE ITEM!
Glacial Augment is fine. It is the optimal rune in a few mages as it is comet and aery on others. If we're talking about keystones in need of a nerf, electrecute is used in almost all assassins, a few mages, and even a few fighters. Its a far more dominant rune. Another examples: conqueror and aftershock. The former is really dominant on most fighters, the later is mandatory on most tanks and a few mages.
Only a handful mages use this keystone. Also, I'm pretty sure Hexdrinker is the best magic resistence item in the game.
Finally, people need to get off their head that marksmen should monopolize bot lane. Classes get in and out of the meta all the time, its totally normal. However, when marksmen do everywhere I go a flood of tears. They not only are still viable, but are also the most picked champions there. The only difference is that they have competition now.
Bot lane is fine, nothing needs to be nerfed there.
Mages top, mages mid, mages bot, mages jungle
Mages support, Mages nexus
Phy! Why you telling everyone the secret to free LP?! We currently run Swain APC & Brand Support and it's actually disgusting. Great content, keep it up!
I run swain with sup item and melee supp with anower sup item, honestly gold gain is disgusting
So he can get views...
@@aluksus9327 Sooo... you both dont cs?
@@isaacasdreamstargons shield have no penalty for farming, and it also gives gold to swain,so melee champ farm until swains item is stacked, then swain farms instead (bcz no penalty after quest is finished)
Vel koz
Riot buff adcs
This is why hashinshin cries about league MAGES this video would make him rant lmao
He cries about everything tbh
@@antonbelyaev8295 Thing is, he's actually right about most stuff.
@@georgikarakachanov590 not really tho, id say 50/50 ad like some ad items are just beter like he always complain about arcangels but muramana stacks x3 times faster, also brusers arent weaker than mages at all, mr items still suck though
@@aluksus9327 Yeah, but for the most part he is usually right, for example all the Fiora buffs are not needed, if you can't play her without the buffs, well, git gud.
@@georgikarakachanov590 Fiora was a little underwhelming, but okay.
Mister Uzi dislikes this video !
Imagine a class of champions being so overpowered that they're just straight up replacing an entire class of other champions.. If that isn't enough of a sign to flat out nerf ap and mages then idk what is.
So what's up with those marksman top and Midlane who just flat out destroy those lanes?
If mages are so overpowers why are marksman so freaking strong in those lanes and win almost any match up against any of this picks in a 1v1 early?
Quinn and vayne are the only ones I ever see top and they're there because they demolish any melee champ and they're slippery to catch. I never see adcs in mid so idk what you're talking about with that
Even then, you can't compare those few circumstances to a class of champions that can go quite literally everywhere and demolish their lanes. Top they do very well, mid is their main lane, jungle.. support even adc now.
@@rush4g Lucian, Tristana, Ezreal?! So you're not high elo nor interested in proplay cause those picks are top and mid all over the place and just freaking wreck both lanes and almost all match ups. There are no Midlane mages on top or on jungle expect maybe Sylas or Vlad but both are getting shit on Midlane.
Lucian, ezreal and trist are alle played in the mid lane. Faker is spamming tristana in solo que and picked here at worlds.
@@rush4g Lemme teach you what is toplane nowadays. Its bruiser against cheese mage range rats. GA Neeko, Klepto Kennen, Vladimir, Ryze, Vayne, Quinn... You think its funny to play under turret first 15 minutes and not be able to lane properly or clear with tiamat cause you are melee character?
finally .... finally it seems to be a know issue that adcs r damn bad. since the crit rework they r trash and just got tiny bit better over time but still useless
Ehmmm what drugs are you using? Adc role isnt bad, mages are problem. Cheap items, burst dmg, early powerspikes, Zhonyas... Try to play toplane, you can go 10-0 in lane and lose game cause you cant do shit to range champions without flash. You just pray for not feeding botlane and semi-decent jungler before game. So your statement is incorrect.
Rip Ziggs not on list. Makes me sad as that's supposed to be his thing
He's fine, but I imagine people haven't been playing him
And yet, nerf xayah...
yeah clearly it's not the the others adc that were bad she was op /s
@@TsyChun kaisa definetly cant do everything like ap/ad dmg % dmg, stealth, speed boost, atk speed boost, shield, dash, onhit dmg, insane range, also she could build zhonyas easily
These are not mages but ive seen them in my games and they snowballed out of control
Try jax adc with panth supp
Or leona adc with braum supp
JUST LET ME PLAY NORMAL MARKSMAN FFS
League of Mages,OmegaLuL.And still Rito don’t want to admit that mages is the strongest class in game rn.Why you have to pick tank/bruiser on top if you can take Kennen and lighting rush back,lightning rush forward.Or pick adk to be smacked by Heimerdonger on lane and be oneshoted later
No Tailyah? Pfft. Ok! Phy is clearly trolling. lmao
I'm kidding btw
I think people are scarred from Taliyah/Pantheon by a certain LCK team vs SKT in the spring split
"WHAT ABOUT *UNLISTED MAGE* HES SO GOOD"
You guys realize he cant list every single mage right? This video would be like 30 minutes long.
Imagine if bot turret had something like 20% damage reduction vs magic till 14 minutes
Mid 20% less damage from ad
Top 20% less damage from ranged
Easy fixes
Why mid from ranged? Than you would flat out nerf mages. Mid should be safed from ad ranged pushes not all ranged pushes
Aww no Xerath support love. That’s my main right now almost gold 2
I think the video is talking about slotting a mage over the 'marksman' slot, rather than the support
*Are we back at 8.11 Gulags again? The rise of mage bots disgust me, the way Rito Gomes hates my ADCs also disgust me*
It not that bruiser not bot
It's notthat they are better than adcs is that they are ery viable at that role and depending on your team it could be better than an adc
You forgot velkoz... incredible poke, low cds, two forms of self peal and great lane sustain. You're a joke my guy
Riot could fix it buy giving adc more MR because this is ridiculous.
All of them because mages are better than any other class because mage items are broken as all hell and riot doesn’t wanna fix it
TLDR : pick a mage bot lane , take glacial build or electrocute , abuse adc poor laning phase , win.
because mages are "totally not the strongest in the game" and have ''alot of couner play" to the their kit :) , also they dont need nerfs because "they require alot of skill" :) , also "mages items are totally well tuned and fair" , and ALSO '' we have alot of magic resist items to counter mages" :) :) , BALANCE :) G G W P xd . season 9.
They are weak to death
Man botlanes not fun anymore jesus christ mages are running almost every lane now wtf
Trist mid is canser tho
Can you fucking not go there Phy? You main adc ,don't you? Do you really want a ap bot meta again?