The Wuthering Waves Problem | ft. Sweetily, Jenazad, Steparu
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- MrPokke discusses about the issues Wuthering Waves faced on the first day of launch with other content creators.
Sweetily - / sweetily
Jenazad - / jenazad
Steparu - / steparu
0:00 Intro
1:06 Performance Issues
2:52 Genshin Comparison and Story Rant
5:20 Will this game succeed? (first impressions) and more performance issues
11:25 CN's thoughts about WuWa
15:44 Endgame Talk
20:26 Addicted KEKW
23:12 Lingyang Slander om
25:37 Jianxin and some meta talk
28:23 5 Stars Talk
32:41 is WuWa F2P Friendly?
33:50 Wuthering Waves amazing combat
37:32 Thoughts on Echoes
41:50 Coop Echo Farming
47:17 Future Raid Boss (Copium)
51:04 WuWa as Main Game?
54:23 ZZZ vs WuWa
55:31 WuWa's Dev Feedback
58:02 Taoqi Talk
59:49 More Lingyang Slander om
1:02:38 Outro
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every criticism i put during beta (im a beta tester) was dismissed by everyone as a filthy genshin stan lmao i told multiple people to @me after release and no one did, everyone got to experience every point we made about the game and not only they didnt fix many beta issues they supposedly, fix they increased them, the megathread on reddit is full of people not even able to play the game, many CCs are now dismissing the launch problems and pretending theres no isses using the genshin stan scapegoat yet again, for some people is straight unplayable or has graphic glitches, on mobile the stuttering overheating or lag are rampant so much kuro issue a message in game apologizing, this is before touching the game made easier and other things like the huge hotfix nerfing every character on release, is insane how many bugs and stuff like missing text or game code on chat boxes there is, many were not present on the beta.
There are unreasonable fans on the defensive on every game, and sadly on WuWa they don't understand they are hurting the game.
Then - "This is just a CBT. Give it a time. Everything will resolve once release"
Now - "The game just released. Give it a time. Everything will resolve in time"
I’d like to point out that people aren’t dismissing them, they’re just not experiencing them like others are. It’s more ignorance from personal experience than anything which is fine. Another thing is that the devs have acknowledged this already (remember the free 5 star and extra pulls?) and are working on this. These things happen at launch. It takes time. Fortunately, it works for me, but if it didn’t, I would just come back another time when the game is better like with Genshin.
@@TacticalDimples oh they are but is insane how they say "is just using to much ram ans theres graphical glitches but is fine" this people is experiencing the bugs but is not reporting them, theres too many wuwa discords with people saying the game is overheating their device and stuttering like hell, they are doing daily patches but they are going slow over the issues, i have a friend playing till it bluescreens his pc and he goes at it again, hopefully he doesnt mess his hardware lmao.
"Devs LISTENED" in a nutshell
Gonna post this because some people have gone D.VA Defense matrix for this company that probably doesn't even know that you exist: complaining about bugs and shit that is hurting your experience is perfectly fine and normal
It's not "genshin shilling" to point out that you feel the story is ass or you're consistently frame dropping or that gliding feels awful. Kuro clearly wants this game to succeed and they're actively taking feedback. The BEST thing is to not hold back and give this type of feedback instead of sugarcoating and acting like these issues aren't a thing.
You cannot learn if you're praised at every waking moment, that's the same reason why people shit on genshin fans, and its hypocrisy to start doing the same
The problem is that content creators who are sponsored for this game cannot do anything other than glaze it. Brutally honest criticism is something they are actively avoiding, I mean you can hear Pokke saying he doesn't want drama.
The story sucks, the waifus suck, the gliding sucks, the performance sucks, in some cases it's unplayable even on high-end PCs.. that's unacceptable.
@@xorphz not even that, in general people just hate hoyo so much that they just need to have a justification to hate them, that's fine and all, but let's not lie and act like this game is peak
@@litteraltrash3030 tbh genshin fans should just glaze wuwa and act like its peak so genshin has to get to its level, at least in rewards and content xd
@@bandi642 I mean I'll definitely give you that much. As far as rewards go Genshin definitely could never
@@xorphzPeople got mad at me for not glazing WuWa despite me playing KuroGames previous game Punishing Gray Raven, I knew early game story would suck because it’s like that in PGR.
A lot of my friends who were looking forward to this game are now losing interest due to the abysmal launch day. Say what you will but a bad 1st impression is nothing to laugh at
PGR launched also drama, they never learn to do it the second time
It killed all the hype
@@qbdfnot realy they will give use a free 5* star selector ticket and. 20 more gacha currentcy.
And thay also start fixxing the problem in game.
@@yogi_gs Issue is that many people won't return to Wuthering Waves after this. First impressions are the most important things a gacha game needs to get right in order to hook a player, otherwise they will just leave once the next big game releases.
@@crash10310 TBH i am also play genshin on launch day.
Theu also got aloot of problem.
Most of the time the dev team said to F up on the fix on release.
Quick fix means the dev really cares for their game.
An issue i noticed was the auto play dialogue in story was not synced so it would sometimes skip dialogue before it was completed or have no pauses between dialogue
I think they timed the voice using CN dub but the EN dub is longer (by the nature of the language) so it's fall short sometime. (Yea, a lot of time xD) And some text do got cut off (cant scroll down) because they based it on CN text also. It's bad localization that was anticipated but many are just skipping story stuff so this problem may persist imo. SADGE
They need to fix the overworld render it drops a lot
so true. A game less than 20gb in size shouldnt be this laggy.
Yea it's kinda off putting having near objects lose its rendering when using the grapple
what device is it? ive been playing on my pc and that hasent happened to me before, at least not too a noticeable degree
yes you can tell that indoor places have good fps, looks like they are loading too many unecessary stuff
the point at 36:00 was spot on with what I felt as a fresh player. Hadn't touched WW at all before launch, went in blind. And the one thing I noticed was that the game fails miserably at showcasing the combat depth before it lets you start lvl'ing your characters and overpower everything until you start hitting higher world levels. Because right now I have a MC with lvl 40, lvl 40 4 star weapon, and I just cruise through everything.
People keep overstating "Wuwa combat is like Sekiro, Elden Ring, DS. It's hardcore unlike mint game". Like bruh, with lv 40 Rover and 3* weapon lv 20, I can sweep lv 60 - 80 enemies no problem. Especially since more often than not they're single enemy, not in group. I've been saying that while Wuwa combat is more technical in term of dodging, parrying and counter attacking, but in wider scope it's just like regular action-combat games. It's not on the level of Sekiro, Elden Ring, DS, etc. It's just as casual as DMC, Nier, MGS combat. The only reason it is hard is because we still way under level. And then they replied by posting pic lv 100 - 120 elite and they said it's challenging. Yeah, no shit they use lv 20 char against lv 100 enemies. Ofc you'll died in 1 hit, and you don't hit as hard. I can agree the combat mechanic is kind off unique by itself but the combat difficulty? not much. I mean it's mobile - gacha game, not triple A - PS/PC game.
@@nyx4074 how is this any different to any other open world rpg, you can easily sweep any enemy in genshin regardless of your level, except for wuwa its more fun combat wise to actually fight the enemies
Case and point the world bosses and elite enemies are incredible to fight
@@bigman7413 the point they are making is that the game is fucking easy to sweep enemies but people were overhyping this game saying its like dark souls. it aint dark souls difficulty
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 saying it ain't dark souls difficulty is kinda premature, yeah? It's a live service, surely it could become as difficult as they want it to be eventually (aka once we are past the "get people into the game" phase). Being a mobile game doesn't mean it has a difficulty cap
As someone who still can't go above 20, I don't really feel this yet. I'll occassionally find one of the elite enemies and it'll actually take me a couple of attempts to beat, makes it really satisfying and fun to fight.
I just really regret that the first destination is not impressive at all, Honkai Star Rail which has Belobog and Genshin Impact which has Mondstadt are much more impressive than the first place in Wuthering Wave (Huanglong if I'm not mistaken? I don't even remember the name). Maybe if they can make a very unique first place (not that I don't like Chinese themes, but I just need something more special) I'm sure it will give a pretty good first impression even though the overall story is so-so
This game is yet another example of overhyped. It doesn’t mean the game is bad, it just doesn’t live up to the hype. Imo the only game that has ever lived to big hype was Elden Ring and Botw. I don’t think we’ll ever get a truly great gacha game.
Honkshit Starbucks is great imo
@@thrmncrsnncnah it's not hype at all, a lot of ppl doompost hsr, even said hsr will flop bcs turn based is boring af.
the way genshin always win
I don't know if its just me, but wuwa doesn't really feel anything new or special. the combat is good but everything else feels bad... the story and character presentations were bad, puzzles are easy and at this point am already burn out of playing genshin and ToF.
I agree, but I don't mind because this is what I like. It feels like Breath of the Wild, Genshin, ToF, etc. There are some new things but I don't go very long before saying "that reminds me of Zelda" or "that reminds me of Genshin".
I wish they would have more of their own stuff in it and I completely understand people who don't like it because it's too similar to other stuff. I for one am enjoying it and I hope they get better and more unique things as the game goes on.
It's not just you bro, im unable to continue. I just cant see myself putting a time investment in to another really crappy bloated Chinese gacha story. It's awful.
Its really just the bad optimization that is killing the fun. No matter what I get constant frame drops and lag spikes. For some reason when I created an account, it auto selected asia as my server so that was fun dealing with 300 ping and having to remake an account. I have a really good pc. I've run cyper punk, rd2, god of war, ghost of tsushima all on high to max settings. Yet I can't even play this on high setting without horrible frame drops and lod issues. That is the problem with optmization issues, it affects everyone differenlty becuase pc player have millions of combonations of different hardware all from different brands.
what do you have? I haven't had any problems yet, no crashing, frame drops or lag spikes. I am playing on 60 fps and all highest settings. Also what did you download it from? I did the download from their website but i saw that the epic games download has been having problems.
@@commer0117 i have a Lenovo pc it's not gaming, but it has good specs, with a ryzen 7 processor and 16gb ram, i have even semi completed elden ring with midedum settings no issue it can run genshin smoothly on high setting, and HSR too, but my god is running wuwa making me miserable, and it dosent help that besides the combat, the open world is a snoozefest
@@Indian_gae_boii can’t speak on your PC specs but on gameplay I guess it’s just not for you my guy. I’ve been having so much fun just running around the openworld. I’ve put about 10 hours into the game and 8 have been just running around doing openworld stuff. I would rate it the same as genshin or better.
@@commer0117 sure wish I could do the same if the ping didn't go from 90 to 999 every minute
@@Indian_gae_boii it seems like the devs have been putting out a lot of hotfixes so hopefully they’ll get it all worked out soon.
one of my world bosses disappeared and won't come back, and i think that sums up my experience perfectly
Did u teleport away and go back?
The patrols killed mine, but I got credit lol. Took a while to figure out what happened.
@@nottyseel949 update:it teleported to the overworld (it was supposed to be underground) i killed it, got my rewards and it took a daily reset to get it back. also the boss music won't stop triggering.
@@kindaquit4823 I just keep recording all the glitches I run into. Sending videos is prob the best feedback for bugs.
Of course, did the same for Genshin, and HI3 actually, and they never fixed any of it so mileage may vary, but worth a shot.
@@kindaquit4823 where did you find it? I’m assuming you’re talking about the mech abomination, it also disappeared for me from its usual spot
My experience on my laptop is insanely negative, my laptop runs genshin/hsr on mid settings just fine, but wuwa on lowest settings feels shit. Not to mention i still have lag spikes every 2 seconds
Same thing. I wonder if it's because of the optimization of the game or does WuWa actually require a super advanced PC.
@@nikolaikondratenko2165 unreal engine 4 diff
I highly believe it's because of how they do render openworld object, once I get into a "dungeon instance" it's pretty smooth while outside is stuttering pretty hard.
@@noeness3779 yep, same with me. I'm shocked when the lag spikes stopped after i intered the city hall
@@noeness3779 oh my god, it's the same thing for me. Whenever I enter any building, the lag spikes stop
My Game had been running for 18 Hours without any Crashes, the only issue i had was Chixia not being able to use her Aimed shot.. guess i am lucky lol
That’s the only issue I’ve had as well, I just relaunched and it’s been fine since.
I had issue when installing patch after installed pre download (before the game officially launch). Sudden 95% GPU usage just to install patch and not even game played (this happened too after launch with iwintolose on his stream). Im using rtx 2060 super. Also when the story boss, it stuck on air and doing nothing as I thought it was gimmick then waited for 5 mins just to realized it was bug
My game crashed once but my main issue is that the graphics keep reverting to potato quality even thought the frames don't drop
Press G to aim in gun.
Your problem is using Chixia. She's pretty mid bro
To me, what disappointed me the most about this game was the lack of polish this launch had. I’m not talking about optimizations or technical stuff like bugs, I’m talking about the *ARTISTIC* polish. To everyone’s credit, Genshin and, well, modern Hoyo games in general has that level of artistic quality that most other companies dream to achieve.
This is super nit picky as an artist myself: The first big yellow flag raised in Wuwa for me was the fact their voiceovers (at least the English) is terribly mixed-sounds super compressed, unbalanced, and like they never recorded with a pop filter. Imagine sound quality issues in a game with ton of motifs based off of the concept of sound…
I agree... The moment Chixia spoke (in eng dub) I literally switched to JP dub
Every time that one girls with black hair says huanglong and ending the long in a high tone despite saying it at the end of the sentence or at the middle just bothers me so much, it's super nitpicky ik but 😭😭
@@Indian_gae_boii I noticed that too, quite frankly Yangyang is the biggest offender to my main point, she’s just SO DAMN LOUD compared to the others
The voice over actively annoys me. I SWEAR that Martial Artist 5 Star girl has louder voice lines compared to other characters.
And then there is that one girl with pink hair who has the worst voice acting I have heard in a long time. She just sounds like the director didn’t give a shit and took the first lines.
@@marielgalicha8548 same, the English voices are pretty meh and the audio issues don’t really seem to be in the Japanese version, or not nearly as much
I haven't had any problems myself but the problems other people seem to have should be unacceptable
Same here I haven’t had any problems myself, hope the game get fixed and survive
Only problem for me on mobile is the joystick. Feels awful. I have to go full circle sometimes otherwise the character will start running backwards
Same for the most part, I play on laptop and other than textures sometimes not loading on NPCs everything has been fine. Granted i notice the loading screens take forever if I have tabs open so the performance issues are there.
I have an i7 12700h processor with RTX 3080 Ti GPU and i'm struggling to run this game at a constant 60 frame rate without Nvidia DLSS at high settings. This game is too poorly optimize. I feel like many aspect of the game has been rushed for release.
That’s not crappy pc you built then. I have same specs and run the game just fine at max settings
@@lunlun4189 I ran other games just fine with very high settings without DLSS, its only this game I'm encountering fps issues so far.
@@weilichai3646 driver issue
I have almost the same setup as you @weilichai3646 but I'm also struggling to keep constant 60fps at high settings especially in open areas where there's a lot of npc
when was the last time you updated driver? I am on way weaker PC then you (AMD Ryzen 5 5600x, RTX 2060) and the game is running on maxed setting at 60 fps with zero problems.
People who says Genshin had the SAME rough launch as Wuwa is straight up lying. People has to actively looking for bug in genshin to experience it. The majority of time you wont encounter game breaking bug like you would in wuwa.
Wuwa crashes a lot in mobile, and lag and stutters in pc. While myself didn't experience crashing often, the game somehow uninstalled itself and redownload the whole thing after a day of playing.
When it was working smoothly for a while, it does gets slower and stuttering the longer I played the game.
They need to do serious fixing for months on this.
the launch feels EXTREMELY sloppy. Like there's sooooo many bugs, it feels like they didn't even try to identify any bugs in beta before releasing, it just feels so rushed
I think it was rushed. I don't know the details but I've heard that in China you need to make an application to the government before releasing a game. And they give you a specific time frame of a few months to do so. If they missed the time frame, they would have to wait around a year for the next application
they kinda had to rush it out, like what deadpaul said, their license was expiring sometime this year (?) and if they dont get it out now its basically another year or so of being in the back burner to get another license to release their game
cuz it's open beta they false advertised it as full release instead of delaying and polishing the game. you can check ingame mail it says "here is a thank you gift for the open beta" 💀
For such a sloppy rushed game I sure didn't run into many of them... 0 in fact in 20 hours, well none O could identify or notice anyways. Not saying you're exaggerating but... yeah you're exaggerating. Games gorgeous and super fun honestly.
@@SpyralKing bruh there are multiple people complaining jsut cause YOU got lucky doesn't mean it isn't real and it's not annoying.
I've been trying to get into the game for the past 8 hours and it hasn't been able to load for shit. It just crashes upon spawning back in. It's not exaggerating to say shit like that is annoying
We lives in the FOMO (Fears Of Missing Out) society, the moment you can't make your game spec friendly regardless the hype. It will be missed opportunity if people cannot enjoy it on Day One. People who had crash issue is mostly gonna drop the game, they won't buy new phone just for playing Wuthering Waves.
or they can play on a computer while they wait for it to be improved on mobile lol
Majority of genshin players nowadays only joined after 2.0. Even most genshin CCs aren't day 1 players. My point is, many day 1 players quit genshin especially when it also had so many bugs particularly the global hacking incident. Look at genshin now, it's bigger than the day it launched. Pretty sure Wuwa will go through the same phase, many will quit at launch but more will join later on.
@@SpyralKingthe thing is, the optimization is even worse on pc. Of course the experience differs from person to person, but a mid range pc to have missing texture and stutters while running great elsewhere is not something you can ignore
@@I_Love_Plump_Grandmasgenshin had a way better launch for a launch that happend 4 years ago. the same think literally happend with kuros other game, how do they not think of this stuff before it happens?? the whole game feels rushed so they wont have to compete with hsr and genshin getting huge patches in a couple months
@@dan_chen Personally im on PC and Ive had virtually no issue whatsoever except a couple of crashes, which were no big deal because getting back into the game took about a minute and it only happened like 3 times over 15 hours. I'm thinking it might be related to the memory leak issue they mentioned but yeah, everyone has had a different experience it seems. Regardless, those are things I am quite confident and not worried will get fixed knowing Kuro Games, and outside of that the games been amazing
This game clearly needed another half year to a year in the oven.
cuz of a few performance issues that are going to be fixed in a few days?
@@gert2189, its not just that, also definitely not gonna take few days to fix lmao, if it would take few days to fix then they would release it a few days later. Technical issues are hard to fix and the game is clearly coded by amateurs, the fact that content is uploaded on client based on your local time tells you enough about who programmed this game.
@@gert2189eng dub is ultra monotonous, no personality, the optimization is pretty bad for most people, the characters themselves lack personality, echo system cannibalizes the combat flow of characters.
@@gert2189 It's not just that lol
Half the translations have typos. The game's text was not proofread before launch. The story is an actual bore and a slog to get through especially after they quite literally rewrote it not that long before it entered beta. Sounds will play and then stop before they're finished. Voiceovers get cut off halfway through the sentence. The voiceovers themselves sound like they were recorded in a random person's basement. The game's audio quality should not be this bad especially for an open world ARPG that is dialogue heavy. The game fails at the most basic things that should be checked before a game is ready to launch.
Combat is the only system that is well thought out in this game. Everything else points to the game being a rush job and being rushed out of the door before Genshin starts gearing up for its next major story arc.
nah people are just overreacting and there is some paid people that spread hate
I have the same performance issues and didn't like the story/EN dubs like many others but I'll be staying around a little longer just because the combat feels so good. I previously quit genshin because of the lack of challenge/depth in the combat system so fingers crossed for WuWa to survive.
I haven’t been able to play properly at all, ping is going crazy although my graphics are at “very low”. I tried so many things to try and play the game but I haven’t been able to progress beyond the first ten minutes of the storyline. It’s really frustrating but I’m hoping they fix this😞
Yep same here.
Yeah same
but ping doesn't seem to affect anything though? Or is it that bad? I have no difference at 90 and 300 ping. Nothing lags/freezes, dodges, parry and attacks work perfectly fine.
Altough there seem to be some problems with how world is rendering. It runs perfectly fine with no problems on weak devices/pc and then barely works on gaming phones and top pc with 4090 on board (from experience of other people)
feels weird
@@zenixvampirchik652 Even if this game is single player youre still in a server, so supposedly it should affect your experience, i cant use Wuwa as a reference cuz ping isnt my problem in that game but i remember in genshin when my ping went from* 160 to like 200 it would be literally unplayable, there was a ginormous delay in everything.
Go for server that this game recommended.
"The devs should reincarnate themselves"
💀
"You should reincarnate yourself, NOW"!
crazy peoples brain rot
Besides the crashes and story, Gameplay wise it's fun
Is story bad?
@@Roihclem871ye
@@Roihclem871 nah its just generic. better than genshin. The cutscenes are really pretty
@@Roihclem871 this happened in their past game PGR the story in the first parts were bad and they managed to do it again here
@@gert2189 I mean better than Genshin is a pretty low bar nowaday. The first chapters still get some Genshin flaw of too much yapping but after the Scar guy showed up it does get more interesting.
With what Sweetily said, I would to see a collective effort boss where you can run it with your friends in the same instance.
I'm still enjoying the game. Give it some time to sort out the tech issues and bugs. Wait and see for a few limited characters and patches. Then I'll judge it.
yea they even gave a free 10 pull for compensation
bugs aside this was hailed as the best combat gacha by the bald man and its not by a long shot. its new type of wonky tab targeting combat that feels un immersive.
@@rjacks3284
So having an extra key to press due to the more complex combat mechanic makes the game wonky? I say skill issue.
@@I_Love_Plump_Grandmas sounds like you don't understand what "tab targeting" means you hone in on "wonky" and derive your own narrative.
tab targeting= made for skill issue games especially mobile= easy = un immersive. so its the opposite of your conclusion.
I'm only playing for combat, the story is super generic is putting me to sleep, for RPG it kind of sad, i rather skip quest markers to go outside to kill stuff
I haven't encountered any serious issues at the moment except for sometimes a certain challenge BGM keep continuing even after I've completed it lol. But just quit and enter back game fixes it. For players who have performance issues, play on lower resolution or turn on FSR on fullscreen.
If you want way better performance, on a low end device, yeah upscaling solutions like Lossless Scaling on Steam with LSFG 2.2 on a window will increase your FPS.
Sweetily is so based
She actually thinks before she opens her mouth. I always appreciate her takes
Personally I agree with Sweetily's insight. I honestly enjoy the game so far and am looking forward to it's progressive development :)
And oh the performance on my PC is overall pretty fine however I wish there is a way to be able to change the resolution to 1920 x 1080
i've not crashed once on my mobile device ( its potato ), but ive experienced MANY lag and stutters, yes i already said my device is potato, but HSR and Genshin run fairly well without stutter throughout the game ( even if i push the graphic ), but when playing WuWa ( even in its lowest settings ) everytime im in combat, the game just decided to play in 5 fps and go to 0 fps (stutter) every 5 sec or so, the game optimization for mobile clearly have room for improvement, but dispite all of that the game are still "enjoyable", i didnt really mind the lag that much and the combat is still very fun, but still, i decide to play on my desktop instead, which would make more sense with the hardcore gameplay
As someone who played launch FFXIV and Genshin, two games I greatly enjoy, I’m having so much fun just running around finding things and trying take on cheeky fights with lvl 120 mobs.
Game just feels like it needs time and polish and considering it’s coming from an indie in comparison to multi billionaire companies like Hoyo and Square, I’m willing to give it the time. :)
I do hope they come in and change some of these English VAs though, could not stand how yangyang and others delivered their lines and had to swap to JP
yeah, like FF14 had one of the worst launch in history yet its such a popular and good game. Genshin as well had flaws on its launch too, was certain early patches that was so laggy and performance was really bad, then they fixed it the patch or 2 after. no one talks about that. cyberpunk as well had launch issues, yet they picked themselves up and did well.
so it just takes a bit of time and wuwa shouldnt be having much issues, but ppl are so quick to jump the guns because of genshin community
Mihoyo is still a small company when they first release Genshin
so it's not even a good excused stop coping and accept that they deliver a rushed product
So far I've enjoyed the game. The combat is amazing and learning the combos surrounding each character is very interesting.
As for the story it feels a little overwhelming at first and I guess that's how it's supposed to be. I have no experience of the Beta so the jargon difficultly is noticeable. There's a lot of information getting introduced but I expect this to be solved with time. I need to progress more on the main quest to see where they're going.
For the exploration it's okay you can really feel the post apocalyptic vibe going around with the ruins and dull colors. I just wish the mob density was a little more. Like I ran a kilometer just coming across less than ten enemy camps and some of them are limited time challenges. I do think it might also be intentional since mobs are echos we need to farm till the end of time. But yeah it wouldn't hurt to increase them a bit.
As for the characters, I've only met a few. I'm looking forward to getting Mortefi (hopefully I get lucky). Lingyang is pretry cute and has a fun playstyle I have yet to see what people complain about him but I just finished his quest so that's why I may have lingering feelings for him. I got Verina for my first 5 star so I think my account is blessed. I need to familiarize myself with the gameplay more to help me enjoy what they have to offer.
I'm very positive about the game. It's unlike ToF which pressures you to keep up with the crowd, not like Genshin which is very casual, it just sits right above the middle.
I played it for a bit today up until you unlock daily quests/battle pass and so far my criticisms are
-Frontloads way too much terminology and lore. I gave up trying to really understand whats going on after a couple hours.
-The targeting system/lock-on sucks balls, straight up.
-It didn't unlock character tutorials until way later like act 2 or 3, it should unlock as soon as you get your 2nd party member.
-They need to change the sfx when you pick up things in the world. Half the time I'm not sure if I picked the thing up right away or if I ran past too quickly and didn't get it. Genshin's 'pickup item' sfx is very distinct and clear as a comparison
-There's too much pop-in and periodic hiccups but maybe my PC just sucks.
I like the traversal and echo system a lot though, hopefully the story improves and tighten things up going forward but not worth spending money on for me right now.
Do more podcast like this!
I need them as background noise when I'm doing WuWa exploration
nahhhhhhhhh this was terrible lmao
When I try to play the game it constantly lags every few minutes so, I'm stepping away for now.
I am UNABLE to login in to the game AT ALL, I get to the login to select my servers and Rover and as soon it goes into the Rovers Eye, THE GAME FUCKING CRASHES, I can’t even say the GAME IS SHIT or ITS AMAZING SINCE I CANT FUCKING PLAY IT
i run an old machine, and this is the same issue i encountered. i kinda expect it but still a bummer that i can't even give it a try. at least in genshin, i could give a try and call quits after few months and play hsr instead
try putting the game on ssd
God damn it, chill man
At least spill your gaming device. Pc or smartphone or tablet.
Mine, for example, LG V60 Snapdragon 865 8/128 gb ram. Runs normally in medium 60 setting.
I mean they do have a minimum system requirement for a reason 💀. Don’t go start talkin shit if u can’t read the minimum requirements
@@Xailei_ exactly bro. too many stupid people
I feel the direction they wanted for characters is pretty well rounded.
Ling Yang - Tech (imagine Fu Hua from HI3 kind of style, smaller damage per hit but combo is main damage source)
Tao Qi / Jian Xin - Reversal and parry (imagine Beidou E from GI3)
Then there are other characters that are easy to pick up with standard hack and slash for players who don't know or prefer normal stuff
Remember guys, there are many characters and even a character select banner so play what you LIKE. Not all characters are for everyone so play what you enjoy playing
I am very positively surprised by this game. It is much better than I expected, but I have not had any technical issues with it.
I haven't had any issues with the game at all. Been playing since launch and worst I had was on launch night, I got a few messages saying I was reconnecting with the server, but I was never actually disconnected or crashed or anything. Happy for all the free rewards tho!!
coming from the CBT. I've said this like 90 times, but if I wanted to play Genshin Impact I would go play Genshin Impact.
go pick your mint buddy
@@gert2189 picking mint is more fun than exploring the bare bones open world with barely anything to do, you can travels hundreds of metres in wuwa without finding a single chest, and there's no lore or world building at all, in genshin and HSR you can easily get lost in the game reading and piecing together lore but it's non existent in wuwa, even genshin 1.0 had multiple books to sit through (without any ping spikes and performance issues I might add)
You may not value world building as much, but if you want people to be intrested in the game on a deeper lever, it's absolutely necessary
@@gert2189yes im a mintpicking
@@gert2189Go and play your stuttering waves
@@gert2189ohhhhhhh, now it makes sense seeing your replies everywhere. You’re a cucktone fan lmao 🤣
Don’t even have controller support on mobile and no PS5 availability at launch is a huge upset
yup I play mostly on ipad pro and not having controller support is upsetting
I feel like the camera rotation is a bit weird sometimes when i try to walk the character forward it's feels like it often aim to the left side but not forward. Hope they fix all the bugs soon
I had no issues with the game on my rtx, the only thing I noticed is the voicelines getting cut off at the end and also text being cut off too
I haven't played Genshin impact since the release of the grass nation. So anyone claiming I'm some kind of Genshin impact glazer... Leave me alone..
Any game that even attempts to play in the park with Hoyoverse has failed, and even though I plan on playing wuthering waves in the future cause I like it. Wuthering waves will join that group because they dropped a MIDDD GAMMEEE. I have noticed that all of these games lack a certain level of polish that doesn't necessarily ruin the game but it makes them so bad compared to Genshin... The art, the music, the voice acting, the story, the optimization, everything. How did hyv drop 3 entire games with more polish than WW, and TOF combined, WHILE still updating Genshin impact?? I just don't understand why these developers can't just take time.
"You guys have been streaming this incredibly popular brand new game for like 12 hours. That means you're in love with it, right?" We're starting the video strong.
It's in the Exceeds Expectations tier for me. Right now, if I read or hear anything negative about the game, my brain would literally delete the memory of that comment either immediately or 5 minutes later. The hype surrounding the game needs to die down a little before any of the positive or negative comments can be taken seriously.
SEA player here.
The main problem I experienced was really on the launcher.
When the game updated yesterday it deleted the whole launched and it had to download once again.
When it update in-game and restart it will not start unless I open the launcher and click start. But when I click start it will launch 2 windows for the game which will prong an error.
The gameplay is good, and I enjoy it more than Genshin, but the thing is how can I enjoy the game if everytime it update (both internally and launcher) I will face a launching problem.
Man that client launcher gave me so many headaches trying to get it to work…. Then in game. Memory leaks :D ahhhhhhh
The launch is sloppy, and more details why the issue exists like the eng dub issues is coming out from CN, but barely any CC talk about this, good you acknowledge most issues like the performance, story unlike most out there.
The only bad part of launch for me so far was the lack on controller support on mobile. I’m not sure why that was not implemented from the start as that is going to be the primary platform that most people will play on.
In my 24 hours experience i really injoed myself so far im lv 30 atm and the game buts up a challenge the deeper you go in and i realy like that i experienced some bugs but they weren't gamebreaking the story got better in the end imo but overall i love the game and hope they continue to grow
Damn ... the only problem I've faced so far was the loading screen lag ( on PC )
jianxin multiplier numbers are crazy i think she will be meta with gear
Yeah, she is better with sub dps than with main DPS, since she takes much time on field.
wait you fight that robot boss in mission? i already beat him outside mission
It is cyberpunk-esque in that while the technical issues are wildly discussed, they aren't the biggest problems. The whole game feels half baked, almost off brand. The combat seems okay. But I can't really say for sure because I'm on mobile and mobile doesn't have controller support (like, seriousy???).
how tho?? Its the same if not better than genshin
@@gert2189 i am currently at UL 25, i will tell you that although the aspect of combat and exploration is superb, i feel like a playing a game without a soul, the story is a meh to me, feels like so much info i even tried to not skip some of the dialogues but man i just can't explain it, characters is way off don't get me wrong, i am a hardcore gamer and i really want the game to succeed but if it's like this you will not expect people to not voice out their frustrations. I am playing on PC and mobile, i played HSR and Genshin at day 1 i didn't have this much problem with their first lunch, i just want a good story with good combat mechanics but i hope they can optimize it little bit feel pretty shitty playing with my phone.
@@gert2189 bro the open world is bare bones, preety scenery with nothing to do, compare wuwas open world with genshin's, or heck even star rails semi open world, during 4.4 I had the best time exploring the new region, it was fun, full of chests and most of all massive lore drops, NPCs feel like real people with multiple conversation routes, and the big world quest that takes you all throughout the area was beautifully written,
I really hope wuwa improvez their open world
@@Indian_gae_boii You are comparing 4.0 to WW 1.0. When Monstadt was the same thing. WW already has multiple NPC conversation routes, which took Genshin only 3.0 onwards to start doing. NPC designs are also a lot better. GI's ones are so low effort it's not even funny.
@@Indian_gae_boii i get what ur saying but comparing genshin 4.4 like 3 and a half years after initial launch to wuwas first couple days of launch is crazy, i also hope it improves fs theres flaws, but lets keep it a buck genshins first week or two had charm to it sure but it fell off hard asf afterwards and the overall feel of the game feels so soulless like its pretending to be an rpg
Wow... This is actually wholesome 😇😇😇 bless your hearts
I surprised me that alot of people have trouble with the game, for me i haven't have any bug or crash/fps drop except for some background flickering and model animation jitter ( like rover's eye goes wild for half a sec in a open scene )
I had no technical problems with the game though I have a 4080 so yeah. Story is lackluster for sure but I believe they can improve it with each patch. Definitely play on JP dub tho. The combat is satisfying but so far you can make like 20 mistakes before you get to critical health. But then again I am not at the endgame yet. Its a promising game for sure. I hope they fix the problems and improve some of the systems.
Im gonna speak from the lens of someone who has played genshin, and also a different type of mentality when playing a new game. To criticize and seek for improvement in something in a game you feel is lacking is normal. However I genuinely at a certain point kind of expect day 1's of gacha games to have a lot to manage and fix. It's the internet people will do what they want but I'd be more focused on the dev team and how they handle player feedback. Bugs ARE harmful on launch day but I consider bugs a temporary issue. It's the beginning so far I am happy that they are listening despite a rocky start. Being happy at one thing doesn't mean I'm satisfied with the entire package so ill be keeping a measured eye on the game and totally understand people getting put off by the rough patch. This is more for the people that still want to play or do have interest simply give it time, revisit then make a final decision.
I had one singular crash on launch day + at a moment I disabled v-sync after some hours of gameplay, it felt very choppy, I re-enabled it and it was still choppy, even after restart so I disabled the fullscreen optimization and it's been smooth sailing since then. Running the game at maxed settings 1080p (mostly) smooth 60fps (sometimes the 1% lows dips to 40 and it's less smooth but it's not that annoying)
Something that is annoying is the out-of-focus ults and textures popping in and out sometimes but it still isnt that much of a deal breaker, happened to me like 6 times combined in 10-15h of gameplay so manageable)
First story mission sucks, you just get all this info dumped on you. Immediately as the game started i turned off my brain, couldn't care less about remembering 100 niche world facts and 50 new words that i do not yet care about at all.
That's interesting because you could argue that genshin does the same, and star rail too but for some reason they stick but this one didn't,
@@Indian_gae_boii I've only played Genshin and not Star Rail but I think that's because Genshin used much simpler language that we're already rather familiar with while Wuthering Waves uses concepts that are kind of harder to grasp. As an example, Genshin uses "Statues of the Seven" and "Teleport Waypoint" while Wuthering Waves uses "Resonance Nexus" and "Resonance Beacon". To me, Wuthering Waves' prologue would as if we started the Genshin's prologue in Sumeru rather than of Mondstat with all the unique foreign terms and affiliations.
@@GosuAmply compared to these three games HSR probably has the most confusing and info dumping intro ever, but that's on purpose because you initially follow people who are not the mc but the reason it sticks is because the game looks a lot better on phone, the game runs smoothly and I can actually see the charectors, in wuwa, for phones atleast even at the highest render settings it still looks blurry,
@@Indian_gae_boii nope your wrong genshin on its first 20-40 minutes or so, pace well its exposition dump.
Can't say the same to star rail tho
@@glennpaulo7157 so you're telling me when you started HSR you perfectly understood the context behind sw and kafkas conversations? Or that you knew what an aeon was the moment a charector mentioned it? 😂 Stop lying
the game was running at 30 fps yesterday, everything at minimum.
now 45 fps (something I have noticed is that the resolutions do not change) 720p looks exactly the same as 1080p another thing would be nice if you could change the level of brightness of the characters and lighting in general with that performance would be better because those graphic settings do not exist then are at maximum
yeah you have to change the resolution of your desktop to lower the resolution of the game currently, hopefully this gets fixed
@@knobrack_ I will try that thanks for the suggestion
As one who just started Genshin Impact and Wuwa this week. I like the Wuwa more than Genshin. I dont have the bug issue in wuwa.
what's the outro song ?
Sweetily is so knowledgeable, well-spoken, and even-tempered about the game and then genre in general. So refreshing to hear her perspective. Hope we see/hear more of her with collabs/podcasts or something
Playing Wuthering Waves on mobile, and this are the problems I've experienced:
1. Crashing when screen recording.
2. Frames dropping when there's dialogue.
3. When in mid-air, the nearby environment loses rendering quality.
4. Everything is blurry despite being on the highest graphic settings, that includes the player/character.
5. The character/player becomes some disconnected pixels when opening map.
6. The enemies are not rendered when far away.
Optimisation issues, I will give them a little time to fix them. Though it still feels the launch date could have been pished back a little
Gameplay wise, really good
Story for now, not good but its getting a lil better. I hear it does get better later on so ill see.
Voice acting, just, no, ill just play it on Chinese
the game lags so much on my phone that can run Genshin/HSR at medium 60 fps. makes it hard to fully enjoy the combat which is the only thing I can praise it for
Had 0 issues with it, shattered my expectations and they were already pretty high, but i see all the problems other people are getting, i really hope the devs find a way to fix everything soon. That being said, they are compensating the players like crazy, so i hope people can still log in to redeem the rewards while they wait for the fixes.
Works perfect on my PC and works fine on my iPhone
my skill issue problem is the crownless pushing me to the edge making the entire boss fight reset.
can feel the noticeaable drop in performance on my laptop when playing wuwa since the game runs on unreal engine instead of unity
S21+ and I can't even get past the first tooltip loading screen, despite other people I know playing on the exact same model/chip (:
i hope they can optimize to a newer android snapdragon 8 gen 3, i really like to play it.
The biggest issue that I see is that Wuthering Waves did not release on either PS4 or PS5. We don't even have a time frame for it's release. Meaning people were forced to play on their PC without first considering the system requirements. Most people don't want to spend $500 for a new PC right now. We also have to consider upcoming games coming out on the PS5. Would people spend money for a new PC or a PS5 console?
Some problem I encountered are missing dlls (solved by download each missing dll), and heavy load at start of the game (dunno how to fix it).
I will say a lot of people said similar stuff when HSR launched even though nowadays it's definitely a good game. That's why I am very open to the minor inconveniences with this game because I am sure with a little time it will iron itself out.
Any criticism for this game is valid and not just because of Genshin Mintpickers, it's because the only good thing on this release is the combat. They could have delayed the release instead of marketing it as a full release when if fact it is open beta. The EN voice acting was bad that they feel like they can't even pronounce the terminologies of the games. Character designs are forgettable they almost all look exactly the same. The story is trash too when in fact people who played the closed beta said that the cbt story was better with a darker tone but they changed it to be more like Genshin's vibe. Don't get me started with the game optimization the game has a lot of memory leak issues which causes fps to drop until the game crashes and I seen people with high spec PC's having problems on this game. I myself can run multiple heavy games on my MID tier PC with no problems yet this game runs poorly on my PC. This game does not need to be another Genshin they need to be their own thing but it is still normal that people are comparing it to genshin. People are disappointed because it was overhyped but did not deliver, though props to the devs the combat was fun. Still looking forward to play this game so hopefully the devs are fixing the issues.
It's so pathetic how beat for beat this game is with Genshin. The combat is the only thing with an identity, but im not willing to engage with the God awful storytelling. I hate wasting my time sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing while I'm attempting to play a videogame.
@@blazingmonolith4323 I really only enjoy the combat most of the character designs are forgettable as if they almost all look the same person, as for the story I got bored of it easily I just skip everything thank Kuro games for adding a skip button.
I've literally only had problems with dialogue. Moves to the next line to quickly or starts the next line a few words in. Other than that I had one single time where a wall texture bugged out in a cutscene and that was it.
Also will share ny experience - in the morning I've enjoyed 1FPS gaming lol, it was both frame drop and crazy ping for me (either or, or both together ☠️). Read some players I follow having issues with textures glitching, characters with guns firing like CRAZY and unable to login at all, so I guess I was at least somewhat lucky to struggle through, but playing lol
My issue, although still present, became somewhat better in the evening, the game had a couple of patches uploaded throughout the day, so I'll let them cook🔥
Still stuck on file integrity, i dont know but the launch has so much bugs and there are people in reddit complaining about it
my only issue is the weird controlls on how easy it is to misclick and the little graphic bugs on phone haha
Honestly my biggest gripe right now about the game is that i really am disincentivised to use my beacons(waypoints) because i need to wait like 30 seconds loading and my fps spikes really badly even on lowest graphics but i laughed so hard when i got 2 danjins in limited weapon then another 2 in limited character banner then another one in standard weapon banner an at 40 pity for character banner got another danjin right after getting a jiyan and i was more happy about danjin then jiyan
Outro song?
Whenever sweetily speaks ☺️
My experience has been incredible tbh. But thats cause I have a good Pc. Low specs and it hurts
honestly i think this launch will prob cripple the game for a really long time if not forever, i dont see them getting out of this anytime soon, even if they fix everything
Yea it's a bad look they had so much momentum and now it's slipping.
you're right but its because people are blowing it out of proportion
@@gert2189They are definitely blowing it out of proportion, it's the damn launch for crying out loud give them a chance to get the ball rolling. They've already released a ton of hot fixes with big improvementss and are actively releasing more.
Most of these individuals were super fragile and impossible to please anyways coming in with a pre-established agenda, best to let the door hit them on the way out. WuWa is going to be so fantastic, if they want to miss out on that because of their unrealistic expectations then that's their loss.
@@BobDole274 It's not blown out of proportion lol, for the game being called a "Genshin killer" well that's what many are comparing it to. Genshin ran perfectly from launch day. Now you could argue it's unfair to compare them and maybe so but that is what ppl will do
@@gert2189i think its the way that ww wasnt as good as genshin was at launch, and genshins launch was 4 years ago. like idk how they didnt learn from the beta, the game still feels unpolished, and this reason is why even if they fix it, ppl who played on launch and had issues have alr uninstalled the game. the majority of ppl who play these gacha games are js playing for story, since thats the main thing for patches. if ppl js like the combat i have a feeling its not going to last that long when every single patch has a shitty story and the only saving grace of this game is the combat that wont be having updates every patch
Only complaints I could give is the janky gravity tool and auto climbing everything lol I also got stuck on a blank screen trying to top up the 30 day pass
I cant find a way to log into my account on pc because i made it on mobile
Don't you know that the [spindleflank cosmological matrix association] spent thousands of years perfecting the [danglebottom flangatronic nullification engine] to de-integrate the [photo-neural bisquik siesmographs] that have been causing..
- something I read on reddit, in game dialogue
summarizes the word salad story telling of this game
One story that was potentially hurt by localization was Lingyang. The Eng VA is generally pretty poor in this game, so that coupled with Lingyang's dialogue potentially not being changed up for international audiences hurt him. He's a really likeable character, but I can see how non-Chinese might dislike some fo the phrases and greetings he throws out often
My current complain is character control. Feels like I'm controlling a character in a slippery road. Compared to PGR where characters easier to control because they feels like sticking to the ground. I played Aether Gazer until 2.1 and also feels good to control because characters also feels like sticking to the ground, hence harder to make missteps.
it just lags a lot in my laptop even on low settings , but genshin was fine even on high settings i dont know why . was waiting for this a log time because youtubers was hyping it a lot but after playing it it looks just like tower of fantasy yae it looks hot garbage but i would say combact was fun it there is no frame drops that is
Bro Yapped for an hour and said "yeah guys sorry I'm shy"
yeah, this is XgoSolo all over again lmaoooooo
Lucky for me I have not encountered 95% of issues others have but I am playing on iPhone15Pro so that might be why or I am just lucky so far but I have noticed that sometimes the audio in ENG Dub sounds like broken English randomly and it’s odd to hear and the directional controls on mobile feel horrible in combat, I hold left or right when evading but the character is still running forward and I’m like “whaaat” but I will continue to play F2P as the game in general feels great to play and world has an interesting array of characters and lore, plus the story is fascinating but when it comes to console I will switch to the console version immediately and take WW more seriously and start spending
frankly i have a 3070ti and my game kept crashing on opening and i had to underclock my gpu AND reduce my mouse polling rate as there kept being lag spikes
HSR has set such a high bar, still the only gacha that has had my full attention for over a year
I’ve been kicked from the app almost any time I’d try to do something new for the first attempt. And also at random :/
I'm so confused because myself and all my friends have had the smoothest launch experience with 0 performance issues. The game has felt really polished lmfao.
The game has been up for 1 day and at least they already patched the game like 6 times lol. So hopefully they can sort out many of these issues. I wonder though. Many of these issues we see now would have been something that people were supposed to discover and report during the closed beta tests. Did everyone just not provide feedback on these tests? what are they even there for then ^^
They fixed nothing besides the UI polish, localization, and some rendering stuff. I didn't have nearly as many performance issues during the beta. Was very annoyed 120fps was removed. How/why did that cause so many issues? Did they implement a bunch of custom physics stuff or something?
I was alarmed they released the game so soon as they still had another 4 months to release the game (China game release law shenanigans). Guess the pressure to release the game immediately got to them. Overall my main complaint is the crap story. Combat is very good but so is pgr so that's not a surprise. Animation, environment, and general polish is lacking but typically not immersion breaking. Sometimes it is though. Like some of the animations made me immediately say someone hand animated this (not well) instead of motion capture. It was a jarring shift from hsr.
Overall, game foundation is very fun. Lacking time in the oven. At least 6 months if not more.
Bring back 120 fps!
@@LiveType I guess one explanation could be that they were aware of issues which were further amplified at higher fps, so they put a cap on it to limit the issues till they could fix it. Only thing that really makes sense in terms of them removing the option if it indeed was possible to select during the beta test.
But yes, it does feel like they rushed the release when they knew it wasn't ready for whatever reason. I'm still enjoying the game so far but sure would be nice if it had some more polish/fixes.
Those are bad numbers, 6 hot fixes in like 72 hours? The 1st impression is giving incompetent vibes.
@@blazingmonolith4323 was 6 within 24 hours, they have obviously done much more since then and are currently doing their first real patch as well.
yea.. wuwa on low settings hogs a ton of my ram on my laptop and has a lot of lag spikes if i try going past 45 fps, and my laptop is able to run high settings on hsr with perfect 60 fps
game just needs more optimisation performance wise