Play THREE CHARACTERS AT ONCE! Wuthering Waves Tech CHANGES EVERYTHING!
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
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Wuthering Waves has some incredible battle mechanics. In this video, we explore how swapping can be used to control multiple characters at once and to extend combos. I talk about Swap, Swap Cancelling, and Swap Back techs.
0:00 | Intro and Content
2:20 | Just a Swap
3:06 | Swap Cancel Tech
4:47 | Swap Back Tech
8:17 | Questions and Closing Statements
#wutheringwaves - Ігри
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Forgot to swap plunge attack.
Forgot to swap plunge attack in middle air.
wuwa is shit
you forgot that swapping for an intro skill is a good parry move in case you can't time your attack
@@frfr12921 as well as using echoes that can parry. There are several ways to parry.
My phone does NOT like this video
my ipad would literally explode in my face 😭
Same, my phone crashes when in open world or cutscenes
This game is too much for a phone tbh
@@Mordred_King mine is running fine.
@SKULGRYN make a feedback, they have a Reallt Good response Time, especially in these times.
"Play THREE CHARACTERS AT ONCE"
I see that even in the wrong game, we're still using Da Vinci
Only OGs understand this
Us PGR players just love Da Vinci😅
Lol
Waiting for da Vinci buff when shukra patch releases
@@tencive5749 the most important quality of life update
Da Vinci da best memory xD
While the game launched with pretty big optimization issues, I'm glad Kurogames have already addressed it and are working on fixing things up ASAP. Plus, we get 10 free standard pulls as compensation.
Honestly, W communication and W devs
Really? I played fine in pc but still a W
@@Y4ngCP yeah the optimization issues mainly involved mobile devices
@@Mo_Shadowssome pc players also struggled but i’m so glad they quickly updated us that they’ll hopefully fix it soon. i pray this time i can play longer than 30 minutes lol
@@Mo_Shadowsnah i had a lot of issues with pc too and saw a lot of people complaining about it even on pc
Oh okay - i dont follow any social medias really - when i started, at the beginning of the tutorial, i had several little freezes and set all graphics to lowest and they still happened. My pc is pretty alright. Not super strong, but also far off the low end. That means that whatever i experienced there is a known issue and is supposed to still be improved, yeah? Sounds good.
Combat is so refreshing. IWT sounds so happy.
In any other action games, if a character has super ass long animation they're immediately called useless. But here it's actually really great as you have more time windows to do the double swap 👍
*Glares* at mk1 sub zero
All that switching makes this looking like a crazy Marvel vs Capcom game throwing assists everywhere. Absolutely love it.
IDK why i even watched this i am on a mobile if i try this my phone might just blowup like the enemies
Not really I'm on mobile too and it works just fine xD
In phone its really Laggy, Unless you have a High end phone.@@joakinsane
@@joakinsanewould it work on a 6gb ram mobile? I'm currently downloading it on my pc but if it's in my phone then I can play whenever I want
@@ehe_.-.Absolutelly depends on the phone and chipset
@@lucassa5083 snapdragon 720G... I don't think that's good 😂 and I'm already seeing so many people talk about how badly it runs on mobile so yeah ig pc it is...👍
Kind of love that Encore is the poster child the extra attacks since she has two longer animations. I wonder if the devs realized this tech when they named her.
Well her skill specifically say that it persist when she swap, so it was design with the swap cancel in mind
And as I know, Encore is designed to be a quick-swap resonator
When I switch Encore when she's doing her long animation, it just cancels it😭
@@0maeWaMou You're probably not giving it enough time to start the attack
@@Duarte_GB Do you need to have a concerto to swap back encore?
Mine only activates when her concerto is up 😭
Though Idk also if I gave enough time for it to start
Why do I think 2 more characters as slow as Encore would abuse the absolute heck out of Triple Swap Backs. It'd probably look insane as hell and require FGC-like skills combined with Souls-like control to even execute, let alone master.
this right here.
The bottleneck would be skill cd. So still the best you can do would be a triple swapback and then wait for cds
As someone that has played Fighting Games for over 28 years, no, this doesnt come even close to that, not even in the same dimension, specially because this is PVE and enemies will always have predictable patterns
It does require good timing tho, and the good thing is that combat is done client-side, so, "lag" or "high ping" wont be an issue that prevents you from actually doing these techs, anyone will be able to do them (as long as their device can handle it)
So just DMC style-beasting?
Saying it requires FGC skills is a stretch, however, it is still pretty hard to learn to the average player.
The next level would be mouse directional inputs, rhythm-like skills (like sanhua forte) and actual inputs to do skills. The combat is actually decent, I see future in it, I seriously hope they add more intricate things to it though.
This is easily my fav part of Wuwa combat
I like PGR but 15 sec cd for switching is such a pain in the ass while genshin 1 sec CD+ping reliant switching is super pain as well while Wuwa switching is not only smooth, it is a core feature with very high skill ceiling for mastery, I love it!
Isn't genshin like 2.5 seconds? Sometimes I use my burst and the swap is still on CD. (only 90 ping)
@@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters It's 1s
From what I've seen in Wuthering Waves, high skill seems to mean nothing in the endgame. I'm F2P and I can one-shot everything on the map, including bosses, with suboptimal characters and builds. Imagine when I get full gear and good compositions. I believe people won't even bother dodging because it's a loss of DPS. Jianxin already has a shield, so if they introduce a character with interruption resistance in their kits, dodging and parrying would be mechanics that nobody would use. I killed a monster level 120 in 25 seconds with characters level 40 with 4 star echoes without substats. They really need to reconsider their approach to the game because while it seems promising at the start, the more players invest in their characters, the more evident its flaws become.
@@tyrkdlesathcool atleast it ain't too boring in endgame and you can be stylish a bit in combat and experiment before next update and maybe they start putting secret lvl 200 enemies 😂
@@tyrkdlesathTry beating the level 80s hologram enemies, that is where your DPS will really be checked.
I've been using the swap mechanic for a funny quirk with Chixia and Aalto. Basically, I charge Chixia's bullets, swap to Aalto, use his skill to bring out his decoy, then swap back to Chixia and use her skill to unload all her bullets. It basically removes Chixia's one weakness if needing an opening, since the boss will focus on Aalto's decoy
It's probably not the best use of the swap mechanic but I feel incredibly smart for thinking of it, since I use both characters anyway
The grass in this goddamn game is melting my laptop
Laptop gamers unite
Youe laptop is certified basement dweller its afraids of grass
Hahah my laptop is dying too I can't even reach 30 fps with the lowest graphics. Guess I might be forced to quit
@@cyclejason hey, i thought the same until I got to know it's not a laptop thing, it's the game. give the game some time to work on the performance issues maybe it'll solve itself :)
@@cyclejason i was lagging so bad, but i turned the settings up to the highest graphics and it unironically worked 😭 (i have a laptop too btw)
For those of you who play Genshin, think of swapping back as the tech where you can use alhaitham’s burst, then swap to Kuki for a quick skill, and then swap back and still get all your mirrors
I have no idea what that means because I skipped him and will forever keep skipping him.
@@Chestyfriendits not rocket science man, do burst then switch, use skill then switch back, the character is just example its literally any character
No one cares about genshin stfu
@@Chestyfriend🤡🤡🤡
played genshin since launch and this isnt any clearer than the video
Meanwhile in genshin
Dehya: wanna see me jump?
... Smoothly in 60 fps 😂
No bugs, no fatal errors.
Wuthering Waves: Please, Rovers, run Genshin off-screen.
@@tyrkdlesath doesn't work but you morons will believe everything 😂
@@tyrkdlesathAh yes, because Genshin never had any bugs or fatal errors on 1.0 launch or ever since then
@@Ardeleus Genshin had problems, but this game has multiplied by 500%
I play the game for 21hours and i didn’t even got bored nor got headache, everything feels light and not frustrating (but i got 1hit by some giga TD)
Which TD?
@@Gheniel_ Basically the "monsters" of WuWa, I believe. I was lost in the sea of buzzwords too, haha.
@@YosepRAI think they meant which discord op was fighting
burnout hasn't settled in yet
TD means tacet discord or. something
Great video. It's good to see the fighting game mechanics from origin games like Naruto Storm being explored and showcased by more creators in WuWa. This helps create another barrier between players who want to enjoy the game casually (left click to win) and the players who want to mint-max and display high execution skills. Excited to see more people showing off crazy combos in the near future!
This is less well known but in Punishing Gray Raven there's an equipment set that allows you to do something similar called da vinci
bruh imagine if they release similar echo set like da vinci. oh man carpal tunnel incoming lolol
8:25 "Are certain outro buffs retained during a swapback?" No, although they *were* in CBT2 and have apparently been considered a bug. It's part of the reason Calcharo was considered to be stronger than Encore since he took a lot of advantage of it, as you said.
Ah, the dmc gatcha game I’ve always wanted
the actual DMC gacha game is terrible
@@pegeta fr peak of garbage
@@Hazel564garbage of combat
@@bavinhoan1686 facts
I'm saving this video for later tonight. I see great potential in WuWa's combat to be satisfying and rewarding. And I'm planning to fet sweaty on it. Thanks, man.
Swap cancel has saved me so many times due to the short i-frame it gives, I have major skill issues and most of the times I burn out my stamina due to unnecessary dodging or wrong timing at doing it.
Swap cancel not only gives a small i-frame to the character being swapped out but also slightly moves the position of the incoming character, that is so useful when you accidentally ran out of stamina while needing to dodge a specific attack.
Lastly I hope you also make a video about abusing intro and outro skills to dodge and i-frame attacks lmao. Seems like WuWa gives players so many cool and flashy ways of avoiding damage than just basic dodging
Honestly this is really good to know (especially as a Danjin player here 💀)
Intro skills allow you to parry attacks that you might've missed. The game is great.
Im enjoying with Encore so much she got great damage for a standard banner character the animation cancel charge attack combo is also pretty broken
Yeah in b4 prydwin apologizes and rates her t0. God I love her so much and I'm glad I got her on my 50 beginner pity.
I was initially trying for calcharo but after getting encore i love her playstyle and im sticking to her now. Also, after playing MC and other chars, holy damage, she is so strong, i have like a lvl 1 weapon on her and she still smacks everything early.
If someone is experiencing really big performance issues, try switching your graphic settings to different and than back to your usual. Somehow it works for me
(for some reason I developed a habit of keeping my Task Manager opened, and I noticed that WuWa makes HDD with itself work at 100% constantly, but after that trick with graphics HDD working time drops and jumps to 100% only when loading new assets. also, my graphics were Low on default, but my PC handles Advanced completely normal)
Yeah it fuggs hdd very hard.. My 10year old HDD really struggle.
I don't know if someone already mentioned, but Jianxin is another one. You can cast her parry and swap, she will stay in the position ready to parry and can even actually "parry" a boss (the universal mecanic). I do not test this with her stacked heavy attack but i'll try later
this makes me feel like i'm actually playing as a party
This is exactly the thing I was looking for!
Thank you for showing us and do feel extremely supported on continuing your swap/cancelling shenanigans and showing us your discoveries!
This honestly feels like you passed Kuro Games' Willy Wonka test. Craaazy
Parry dodge swap looks so freaking cool since the character you switched from is in parry slow mo and stays on the field for a while, especially Sanhua , in mid air exposing her cake ... I love this game
i’m so happy there’s a form of combat for everyone in this game. personally i’ll be using my jianxin to parry and grind every enemy to bits but i love that the more hardcore players get some super cool techs to mess with 🤣 and i certainly like watching it
Female rover really suits this game. Her facial design especially is so great. The hair, eyes etc.
Yeah I c why ppl are struggling on mobile. I spent 30 minutes straight customising the settings where I’ve optimised the graphics to be moderately high and run the game at 60 fps without crashing or lag. N the game still looks pretty good to play instead of low graphics such as low shadow n stuff.
This isnt new for pgr players this is basically what we do in phantom pain cage and you can actually mix it up with more combo dynamics now
Oh so that's why yangyang with rover feels very fast to play, cause i was just constantly swapping between them and baizhi
Damn, 1st day and already discovering swap combo. While im still trying to figure out rover basic combo..😂
This will make theory crafting so much more fun! Great content as always
I have been accidentally doing this mechanic but couldn’t figure out how it worked, this was helpful 👌
Yesss i love complex tech like this, makes the game combat system much more versatile. Imagine the combos if we already had more roster.. 🤯
My square shaped brain now needs guided drills to master this awesome tech
fr same lmao
the way i pulled encore and jiyan and was told to remove 1 from the team because both r dpses. now i can finally have em both in the team with no dps losses
I think I did this by accident early and had no idea what was going on.
I accidentally done this in my play through by mashing random buttons and couldnt recreate it in words. Glad you explained it
using hsr background music to wuwa guide is such a mood
I love that when he says rover there is a dog barking lollllll
As encore was my first five star and now learning of this swap cancel, I can’t wait to try it and see who else can use it
IWTL already getting sweaty
I was sad having multiple main dps 5* but after investing some time into trying to find some swap combos, the combat is so much more fun and satisfying :D
Me with a genshin brain: huh?
I abused this using Echoes with super long animation such as the 3 headed bird, Aero Gorilla, etc.
This is vital because I have built my Mortefi, so when I ult with him, swap to new char with outro, echo, back to mortefi, back to the character that used echo then do the hits.
This save me 2 or 3 sec of mortefi ult.
I love fighting games and this tech is something you would find in them.
I use a encore,verina,sanhua team. I reckon i could pull off this combo:
Sanhua e -> encore e -> verina e -> finish ecnore e.
I wish there was some kind of dummy training ground where people could practice these kind of techs/skills
Yea calcharo loves this because his heavy attack takesblike 2 seconds. You got time to heavy, swap, skill (depending on who you swap to), swap back to calcharo its crazy
i don't know if we could've already do that but for exemple with the heron u can press it to counterwwith him and change caracter to do something and the heron counter if the enemy attack frree block kinda weird to explain but uknw
Im using iphone 14 and I still f struggle pressing the attack button and now you’re telling me to do a whole circus combo😭😭
Hey Win...great video. With Encore.. can i just spam Swap cancel and only E + LMB? or she rely on heavy attacks as well? If i swap and do only E+LMB (Q when ult rdy) on all team is gona be ok?.. i don't like heavy attacks or characters that rely on heavy attack (like the monk lady)
first thing i did when i downloaded the game was going to the settings and put everything on low
GI player, PS player, controller player, I'm suffering very much to adapt to keyboard and mouse and you bring this video 😂. I like the combat system a lot, it's the best of the game 🙂
Im playing fine with my xbox controller on pc though
2:20 love the background Barbara footage, what a channel classic
This tech could have interesting effects on team comps in the future, especially for characters with long attack animations since they become invincible. I can imagine a triple dps comp being viable in endgame for the absurd dps and energy generation from having multiple characters spamming attacks at once. Hotswap meta could be interesting since it really depends on player skill and a deeper knowledge of your 3 characters besides what it says on paper.
i just tested this swap thing with best girl(danjin), and the time between her enhanced heavy attack and her follow-up enhanced normal attack is quite long. i was able to switch to mortifi use a skill and still manage to switch back to preform the follow-up enhances normal attack on best girl
I'm so glad that you are still keeping Klee at Intro :)
Hmmm if i use the multiple head bird boss skill and then swap cancel:
does the 10 resonance energy goes to the equipper?
Or on the current character?
Or no gain?
If you're playing Honkai Impact 3rd, that swap mechanic in WuWa makes no difference it is almost same as the QTE system in Honkai. In honkai you can have atleast 2 valkyries on field to do combo attacks. It's nice WuWa had applied this type of fighting mechanic in their game though
Works on Yangyang special HA when she goes upward you can swap 2 characters for a quick dive attack
Same principle as quick 3 man dive attacks
Da Vinci even in this game 😅
4-Piece Set
When QTE is triggered, triggers another character's QTE. 8s cooldown. If there are 3 characters on the field, ATK is increased by 20%.
Man, I'd love to try it when I can finally play the game properly at above 30fps
Lmao optimizations are cooked
Give them some time though im pretty sure they will do something soon
@@bumerang6525 yeah I definitely have faith in them, overall I think they made a banger game that'll only get better with time
They already addressed the issues we’re getting 10 pulls for compensation too don’t worry
@@zerovking7629oh that's good
why everyone talking about bad performance, its about the same or slightly better than genshin in that matter
I got Encore in my first 10 pull of this game..😅
I hope this game gets the love it deserve's for hack n slash lovers this is pure gold, i always dreamed of a tech cancel like this one
I am honestly amazed by how creative kuro games were at creating this combat system
I pray this game is only gonna continue to expand in years to come
I love mechanics like this one, it gives the game more depth and makes the combat more fluid and rewarding. Kuro has raised the bar high with this one.
I can already see a competitive scene with this game like how genshin does the tournament for fastest clear time tourney its gonna be hype
I just got this team setup and I cannot wait to try this out, such a cool option.
Im glad someome is bringing this to light. This makes and breaks a good player, a casual, and a god player. Swap techs at the right time also grants invincibilitiy/counters, you also can do insanely long combos while doing this tech playing with cds of other resonators+echos. This is also a MUST for Calcharo with Yinlin, even with the nerfs i'd argue he is the strongest dps in the game still when properly used with his long animations and passive buffs of intro and outro skills, which requires swaps. I clear my world bosses in such little time doing this. And if you have a healer, mistakes are more forgiving if you are swapping their heals in rotation.
I play encore/rover/bai and if i press buttons right bosses just melt. Encore do some insane damage with outro skill. This teck fit her so much. Encore fire set, rover energy set, bai heal set.
got jianxin and lion boy in my novice banner and i still have my guaranteed 5*
do i reroll cos i really want verina and calcharo?
Is ping will be a issue like when u al haitam ult and quickswap kuki ele skill and back to haitam....
This looks and feels insane, can't wait learn this mechanics
Time to go ham with this on mobile, it working overtime now. Tested it out with calcharo and rover on mobile I for the life of me could not succeed half the time with the swapback.
Is this possible to do with your thumbs on mobile? The buttons are already too small and I’m not sure if my thumb is fast eneough.
I wonder if this will work on jianxin since she needs to actually hold her heavy attack for the long animation
Funny how they were considering to remove this tech after cbt2. Glad that they kept it instead.
It was a intended feature since the beginning iirc, it just had a small bug with it lol
Need some optimization on mobile,i play on high but i sometimes notice scuffy lag when exploring the world ,no lag on combat tho but open world is scuffy and some movement is scuffy
It so funny that this tech could change meta for sure tho i do wanna ask cuz is it limited for any char?
is there a training dummy or something we can practice some of this on?
well is this something that can be done using phone ? it has to be only for pc user right ?
Wow, they're taking inspiration from granblue fantasy with this
I was doing the swap cancel with encore without knowing it 😂 but what came after that was 🤯
This game is really fun and I already got so many super early fire stars in in love with this game
Is this keyboard exclussive or is it possible with controller?
Damn crazy, it actually feels like you have teammates hopping in.
This reminds me of style and weapons switch combos in dmc. Pretty sick.
Yeah and apparently you can use this with echos too since some echos have pretty long animation.
I have like 200+ ms on Wuthering Waves and I've never had a swapped character on cooldown prompt despite a noob rotation while on Genshin I always get that prompt whenever I have a high ping
I play on mobile and this will be much harder to do damn, this is becoming a pc game if you want optimal ouput, keyboard is much more precise
I need a new phone that can handle this game and genshin as well because I'm running lowest settings and I don't really see much lol.
Any recommendation? I'm thinking the red magic or something
it is possible to do it with danjin skill as well but perfect input is needed u miss click once its joever i think its too hard to learn it on these type of skills
Can't wait for the cancel techs you find when yinlin releases and llays with calcharo
Should i pick calcharo or encore on selector banner? I have Verina & Jianxin (f2p) Jianxin,encore,verina? Or Calcharo,yinlin,verina? Whats better?
Chalcharo yinlin verina is very powerful so should go for that team first.
While it looks like a really cool tech, I don't really see much practical uses behind it.
For one a lot of buff like Mortefi discourage constant swaps as they buff the next character and dissipates upon swapping.
Another issue is that intro and outro skills are really strong. Some characters like Taoqi feels extremely slow without it. This tech clashes with that playstyle. It's arguably better to stay on field and build up concerto energy then swap.
These two factors makes it really difficult to find a good scenario where swapback can work besides potentially as a fight opener
This tech is actually used in the highest dps team Yinlin + Calcharo in the second beta on CN (I think the showcase is still on bilibili). This basically works since Calcharo's first combo of ult (heavy attack+plunge) is such a long animation that you can actually swap to ult with Yinlin and then back to Calcharo so that his ult state doesn't expire. This team also works better since you don't really need to click another button to finish his combo, so you really just need to swap back to him (compared to Rover and Encore in this video).
Tldr; yeah no it is a legit tech that can be used quite effectively, though with certain characters that have a long string of animations. Considering that we are only on the 1.0 version with limited characters, I believe there will be other upcoming characters that can make use of this tech well
ig this is only viable for teams that allow it to actually be taken advantage of.
I'd actually prefer it that way, I don't want all teams to have the same playstyle.
It will work just well and is practical. . But it's not for every unit. Which is fine. More variation in gameplay.
Honestly thank god there are different play styles… imagine this same gameplay being the most optimal because people that can’t play it on systems like phones that can’t run the game properly would be screwed
Wuthering waves is so satisfying to play :0
Hopefully works with danjin's heavy attack (with meter) and its followup
can you make a dedicated video explaining the combat on wuwa?
Does anyone know if there are combat dummies that you can test this kind of thing on?
I like how you use, Genshin Music for WuWa vid