🇿🇦SOUTH AFRICANS ARE LIVING LIKE THIS! Mansions & High Living in Rural South Africa
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This is something I am very passionate about. The first generation of black people who had access to middle-class jobs post-1994 are reaching retirement age and instead of retiring to the coast like white people, they instead are moving back to their home villages, buying land cheaply, and building some impressive houses and homesteads. They also bring with them a taste for city life, which encourages certain retail brands to venture out of the cities bringing development and jobs into more rural areas.
Well said
@Mbu. That is true but in part. The main reason for the development of these built up rural areas is as a result of remittances. If you notice most of these areas are typically found in the so-called more rural provinces of North West, Eastern Cape, Mpumalanga and Limpopo. The availability of communal land in these provinces means that the land parcels can be bought for a fraction of what they would cost in urban spaces. The remittances I referred to earlier refers to monies that are sent back by people who work in more urbanised towns or cities primarily people working in Gauteng Province where Joburg is located. These people send these monies back in order for people to develop their homesteads many of whom housed their funders. Yes you correctly point out that some people have identified them as retirement homes but to some these homesteads are developed for parents and extended family. We cannot escape that they are also a source of pride as we use them to show progress and development in the family. Unlike in Western culture, Africans encourage giving back and developing the rest of the family. We tend to reduce the nobility of this act by calling it "black tax".
But please explain to me this phenonomen why do most rural inhabitants migrate to w.cape? Erecting shacks and making our Province appear backward.. deprived...its truly not fair! I am talking from my friends words..all my friends from E Cape have homes their but they live in shacks in WCape
@@luthovellem865 Oh 100%, remittance economics is another one of my passions.
Same as the people here In the Transkei who rent "iGumbi" in the cheap part of town to live in during the week, whilst building their "real" homes in their villages an hour out of town that they "live" on the weekends. It's a Facet of South African life that really doesn't get enough exposure because similar to the "black tax", this form of "migrant labor" is frowned upon by academics.
@beverleybarends I'm interested to know what do your "friends" say when you ask them this? Do you even the b*lls to?
Limpopo is very beautiful. They have done very beautiful houses. But other Provinces have also stepped up their games. This is just tp show you that we South Africans love our country. Most of these people work hard, their sources of income is traceable and transparent. These people have sacrificed so much to attain this.
This my neighborhood
People ate building crazy mansions in venda
We have Chiefs, King and Queens.
And they where hear way longer before we had presidents
I’m also from Limpopo, the NORTHERN side but currently working and living in Cape Town. Not to brag lol 😅 but I’m building double story mansion of my own. Materials are quite affordable, most of the Villages across South Africa are still ruled by Chiefs and Kings and if you require the Land or Plot their approval is needed. Venda people are descendants of Mapungubwe Kingdom, one of the oldest and wealthy Dynasty in the Southern Africa. They live by the slogan (Ri Shumela Hayani) meaning we work for our households.
Can you give me evidence Mapungubwe evidence?
@@sandilezulu982 Go to the Mapungubwe museum.
@@sandilezulu982 What kind of evidence are you looking for? well they're books and Research papers written on this. you can also google the King Shiriyandenga.
@@sandilezulu982 He is right
What about potchefstroom? Does that city belong to a chief/king?
There are 3 kinds of residential settlements in South Africa: suburbs like Sandton, townships like Soweto (which usually attract informal settlements or shacks nearby) and rural areas like the villages in the video. Villages were supposed to be the poorest part but in the former venda where I come from and generally the Limpopo province the villagers have been building serious houses that sometimes outshine houses in the other two classes of settlements. So there is a movement that other provinces with rural settlements are also on to catch up to the Limpopo province
True
You didn't mention the middle class where people have those nice big houses that are usually minimum 6 room houses and maximum usually 8 to 10 rooms
The rural area would definitely be our go to (if we were South African). We'd rather live in peace.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT but the thing about rural areas is that it is hard to get resources such as water so u have to go to the outside to just to go to the toilet
Awesome. If you are around my age, then you used MixiT to chat you would know that Venda people were amongst the most marginalized, but their achievements are extraordinary.
The important thing to me sion is that in rural areas, we don't have home loans with the bank. We build prom our savings.
My hometown. Most of our rural people there is less that they buy from supermarket because the soil is rich and most of them plant veges and every season has fruits
Land is very cheap almost free in the rural areas; the chiefs/kings are custodians of the land on behalf of the community… disadvantage no bulk sanitation, sometimes the roads are not good and there’s electricity…
Venda has impressive villages. But its not only Venda, also KZN and Eastern Cape provinces have beautiful villages. Living in a village most of yhe time is way better than living in a township.
I actually came back to my village for the weekend for peace of mind, but yes I agree with everything you said
I couldnt agree more that village life is sometimes far better than town life.
KZN and EC doesn’t have beautiful villages I disagree
@Diamondrsa are you from those two provinces?
Don't lie, EC and KZN rural areas are poor asf. Houses are 10km away frm each other
We do not buy the land in my village. We just go to the chief and the land is allocated to us. We only pay for administration fees and stamp duties. My mom's yard is very huge and she only paid R400 for it. In the villages we are ruled to the chiefs whose councils have been assert and approved but they government and they get paid by the government. Whenever there is an issue one cannot run to the police at first instance. You first go to the chief and if the chief could not solve the matter it can then be reported to the police with an exception of a murder.
This seems very peaceful. You'll have to show us the yard. :)
Can women own land anywhere?
@@francoiswilliams in South Africa, yes they can.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT definitely, villages are very peaceful. It feels very different from the city. Off course I will show you the yard one day.
@@francoiswilliams Yes
I am proud of our ppl building a better life tho!
Some houses in urban areas,still do have the JoJo tanks,but not only South Africa is poor,but it is rich,some people in media don't show the rich side of SA
Much love fam❤❤
We want to see it all when we come, fam. South Africa is beautiful and has so much more potential that what the average foreigner knows. Thank you all for helping us learn more about your country. Much love!
SA have a few rich, mostly poor 😆, why not show that?
The chiefs are the custodians of the land and culture. They don't own the land as in like the can decide stop allocating land to their people. Basically rural land belongs to the people of that community and our tribal chiefs are the custodians of the land. It's a great system. Once you give land in the care of politicians all manner of things could go wrong. You can wake up tomorrow and find the whole Venda turned into Chinatown or whatever. So chiefs protect us from such. They don't reject development from outsiders, but it cannot be a situation where outsiders with big pockets end up replacing the native inhabitants
How about the ANC land grabs?
In order to have access to Venda tribal land you need to prove you're Venda, Same with Xhosa. Then you'll pay a small fee and get a plot. I'm Xhosa so I can't get a plot on Venda tribal land, same with Vendas on Xhosa land. But it's ultimately up to the chief and his emissaries. Not anyone can get a plot anywhere on tribal land. Also there is usually no title deed and it's a gentlemen's deal.
Venda Unit D is an exception to this rule.
In Venda we welcome everyone, where I lived we lived with the real people from KZN Sotho n Xhosa
That’s not true you can find land where ever as long you have an SA ID
Why lie??? Xhosa people are the least tribalistic people. Limpopo is known for tribalism and KZN. Why LIE??
Please dude,tell people the truth, even if you're Chinese you can get land here in Venda,what chiefs require in most villages is a reference from where you come from,only your bad deeds can prevent you from getting land here in Venda,today we even have all 'my friends' from India to Bangladesh and Somalia living amongst us and you're claiming a fellow South African can't get land here?
This is what we believe in, as South Africans especially Limpopo people ,buy land and build uour dream house owe nobody a cent!
Will ANC not grab property?
@@francoiswilliamsno they don't have that power
@@Naomie285 Not yet 😆😆😆
@@francoiswilliams mxm😒 more not ever. Give one reason you think they have the power to do that and why?!
I was just watching her channel found it yesterday
A wonderful channel.
In SA our tribal land which mostly found in 7provincial areas are under the chiefs/kings the are no title deed's there as the land belong to the community but what you pay for it's fee to get a stand card like in my village as children with ancestry lineage I acquire land from R350-1000 but if I go another village it will differ but not an arm and a leg.
This helps us to keep the land like when investors spot minerals the engagement will be between the government, traditional leader's and communities to understand how will it benefit the community. Then traditional leader's decide to allow the investment or not
If you pay a fee for land and build a home, could you pass it on to your children or does it go back to the chief when a person passes away?
HiAny female chiefs?
@@TheDemouchetsREACT you pass it to your children. Where I'm from in Venda in Mauluma village making an example with my home ,the house is in my mother's name incase of her death (God forbid) she wrote down whose name the house will be under at the chiefs. The house will belong to the next of kin so the house belong to you till you sell it.
I am also looking forward to buy the land that side and build a mansion of at least three-storey building. I am not intending to make any profit out of that project but rather will keep the house for admiration.
I dont have the exact details of South Africa but will speak for Namibia since the two countries share so many similarities, in governance too.
Southern Africa with its historically white rulers have set up areas known as "Bantustans" which were rural areas of land where indigenous tribes were confined to.
On these Bantustans, chiefs and Kings were given administrative powers by the central government to control the land under them for their respective communities.
In Namibia, rural land is known as "communal land" and is administered by the chiefs who falls under the Local Government Ministry.
So if one needs a piece of communal land, he/she would need to approach the area's chief and be allowed to lease the said piece of land for communal settlement reasons which normally has a lease time period of 99 years and carries admin fees such as R600 once off.
Bear in mind that since all land belongs to government, they have a right to proclaim some land as "municipal land" once they create a municipality in your area. You as occupier of that land would than be required to pay "rates and taxes" and other municipal fees.
With that said, I think rural life is much much better than township/city life in most instances.
If you have electricity and water in your rural area, you are better off than most people in towns/cities. That's just my view.🤷
What is a Bantustan, Zululand? Transkei? Venda? Were these not set up before the White people arrived in SA?? I don't understand what you mean?
@@francoiswilliamsthese were created by your ancestors to divide our people and to control their movement. In South Africa and Namibia there was influx control which was the cornerstone of apartheid system. Bantustans were used as labour reserves to deny black people the right to own land in urban areas. I'm surprised that our countries continue the chief system when the countries were democratized and influx control was dealt away with.
Chief are involved much in the rural areas specific there is also a national council for traditional leaders and chiefs .In the big city they dont play much of a huge role but on our rurals areas they still do as it is part of our culture even if times have changed they are are also involved in politics of rural areas to hold those who do not deliver accountable and banish them in the rural areas.
@yurir.1840 yes in some cultures like my own " xhosa " they play a very big role
Are there female chiefs, if not, why not?
@@francoiswilliams there are no female chiefs woman stay at home and do their chores as women .It has always been that in African cultures .
*About the Jojo Tanks, it is necessary to have them in today's world here in South Africa. I live in Pienaar, a rural area next to Nelspruit. Almost all my neighbors here have this green water tanks because the municipality here doesn't supply water like they used to so having a water tank is must*
ANC collapsed SA infrastructure 😆
There are many Chiefs in Venda and they are rich. They built Thavhani Mall, which is the largest mall in Venda.
Are there female chiefs?
Kings/chiefs are the tribal rulers they control or own the land. Villagers will pay a certain amount of money to get a stand to build their houses to the chief.
The government can also buy a piece of land from the chief, development it and sell it back piece by piece via title deeds..
Can women be a chief?
Yes, we do have a few. So long as they belong to the bloodline and are next in succession
Be advised that this is the Pedi/Venda and some Tswana people doing this in their rural communities which is Limpopo and North West Province and nobody else value building in their rural area as a life goal like Pedi,Tswana and Venda people….thats why the car sticker say “shumela gae or shimela Venda”(WORKING FOR HOMESTEAD OR FAMILY)….other tribes do it in drips here and there but not even close to how luxurious we do it….mine is done but not a double story for maintenance reasons since its a holiday home for hiding from the city buzz i grew up in
Notice the lack of electric fences and tall security walls in most of these houses
There’s little to none theft in Villages, well particularly in Limpopo. I grew up there and I’ve never heard someone stole something from neighbour’s house. I’m currently working in Cape Town and I got robbed a month ago here, they took my IPhone 13 and wallet 😅
When we say S.A. is not what they portray on the media people think that we are lieng,I can tell you that most of the crime happen in townships and urban areas and they only occupy small percentage of our land.we don't control the media so the propaganda machine is busy working against the majority of S.A. citizens that has nothing to do with the crime.
@@rudzanimunyai2090 It's all down to having a sense of community. In villages and rural areas people understand the concept of ubuntu more than these city dwellers.
@@biggeststeppa1 I absolutely agree.
Speaks volumes without saying a word!
Hi, the chiefs are comonly royal rural families who have oversee authority on that village for ages, the practice is mostly common in the far north of South Africa, they are rcognised by the governent though under the department of traditional affairs, yes they dont really have political powers, but they do have influence in their communities.
Are they female too?
To add to that, the chiefs are not active in government but our government all have chiefs
All traditional communities are govern by traditional councils. The chief is the leader of that council. All service level agreements are done through the traditional councils.
Chiefs generally control operations in their villages, not in the hood or in the suburbs or in politics. Only matters concerning their villages
with the water and electricity thing, what my dad does is he gets water from underground and uses this stone(i don’t know the name of it) that cleans the water, the problem for him is load shedding because when there is no electricity than he won’t have water ( i am not sure on how it works, i’ll have to ask him)
Usually black people have homes in the villages and they work in cities but build their homes in villages. Limpopo , Eastern Cape and KZN are examples of this.
Tribal land, you buy land from the chief but it's not as expensive as urban arears❤
You don't buy land in rural areas you acquire it from the chiefs.
I’m from the Eastern Cape, I’ve never heard of that bull of buying land from tribal chiefs. Must be a KZN thing
No my children,in the rural areas we have a chief who is like a mayor of the area and the reason it cost a lot of money to put some stuff up is because we are self sufficient we don't depend on the municipality.There is no garbage collection,no rates to be paid come month end,our water come from the borehole hence the jojo tanks, the municipality does nothing for us .We don't burn tyres and protest about things.Even houses are not financed by banks.The chief handles most grievances.He is the head of the community
Kings,Chiefs & headmens are landlords,they just don't have powers in the cities & towns built by colonisers cos they lost those lands to colonisers except for Zulus who were given land back mysteriously by colonisers before democracy hence even the king there also has powers over big cities like Durban
Big up to Limpopo 👏
Chief or induna is in charge of the land, on behalf of the king. Depends which province you in
Im an architect based in KZN and working on a few rural projects in KwaZulu natal
Selling of tribal land or homes is still not huge.
It usually stays in the family forever
How about ANC land grabs?
@@francoiswilliams nothing of that sort will ever happen
@@Naomie285 oh yeah?
@@francoiswilliams yeah
The chiefs explained, they rule their kingdoms, if you are acquiring land in their kingdom you need their permission, nothing happens on their land without their permission, they have no say in government but they are active in the jurisdiction of their kingdoms, in the cities no chiefs
But if the land is owned by the tribal or chiefs as to say, you can't sell your stand, you must pack and go but we now have a strategy to handle such, what we do is that if I want to move, I find a buyer and introduce him to the chief and civic council as a family or friend, he goes and bow before them with few amount of money, and at the corner he pays me off our agreement then I ask for transfer letter and I leave and he stays but also he must bring his transfer letter from his chief. But lawfully you can't sell and you can't buy, you can only bow before the chief with a gift which is few amount of money. They can tell you how much and it depends on villages, in mine is now 5grand for an outsider but local kids is 2grand
The "chiefs" are the custodians of land, you seek land through the ruler, then he writes to the council and lands ministry, who then initiate granting of title deeds.
The rulers are custodians of the land, they allocate you the land and a letter is written to govt to prepare and formalize title deeds...
They just need a nice green grass for this place to be a suburb
Hi
Am also from rural same place venda, so chief is like your sheriff on small towns who control everything, so in venda you will have different chiefs from different rural villages, so when ever you need something you have to do it via chief like buying land to build or land to farm, I hope I gave you small info that can helps to understand
Yes you did . Thank you❤️
The land is owed by government but controlled by chiefs in rural areas. That's why is acquired through the chiefs. In many rural areas we don't have title deeds, but the land that you built your house on belongs to you and your family. In a scenario where people leave their house and no one in the family can or wants to inherit it, it would stay for year's as long as the land have some structure on it. Then once there is nothing on that piece of land the chief and community can expropriate it and is given to other people.
In areas where the municipality starts providing services like water and sanitation, roads, waste collection services, and other taxes, the government would then start giving people title deeds. So once the government is involved, the chiefs sort of take a step back since customary laws become inadequate. Basically, the government comes in once the value of land is high, and they want to come and introduce taxes 😢
O wow
How about ANC land grabs through corrupt politicians?
Inspirational stuff!
When are you visiting sa
The chiefs and kings are the people who started the anc read about it,they faught countless wars against the settlers and they won some and lost some because of the technology that was used by the settlers.
How about ANC land grabs?
@@francoiswilliams Are you saying this because you want attention from me or you are trying to be relevant or you had a beautiful dream of England or Holland changed in to Azania.
hi guys how are you doing
Quick African explanation about “villages” : according to Africans true African culture and tradition pre colonisation we Africans think of ourselves as one with God and nature is one with us so we are people of nature so much that we really understand and believe in eco systems … when you see an ant you don’t disturb it or kill it in its natural habitat because of the belief it somehow will contribute to nature in its way and if it contributes to nature it contributes to us clearing that modern day facade that Human are superior over other animals …hence why we pray before killing an animal because it’s a fault in nature … today we are still influenced by that notion hence you will still find areas all over Africa where it’s villages you might find a beautiful home in an open land without roads high buildings it’s to keep ourselves one with nature those so called villages even though sometimes the situation might be bad because this civilisation is not about equality there has to be poor and rich , but those villages those places in Africa are deliberately kept that way to promote who Africa is and always been People of nature ! Hence the civilisations and creations in history that were made by Africans are nature respective in the sense that a Hut is made of grass should you abandon it nature will still strive and overcome it for better unlike these concrete buildings…. Villages are important even the Zulu king when he draws his plan about what to do in Zululand he strongly emphasises keeping rural areas liveable but very much natural … an African home must have extra land around the house itself because you must have a Kraal “where your animals E.g cows stay” where you lay people of your family to rest where you have a house for your ancestors where you communicate with them , and more
This is a beautiful explanation, fam. Thank you.
In rural areas in South Africa, land is controlled by the chiefs.
I agree
Not on my side if the EC, we don’t have such bull
My HOOD 🥹🥹 03:08.
About the "Chief", In South Africa we have 2 two sets of laws under the same constitution.
We have Custom Laws and Modern Laws, When it comes to Land issues Custom Laws will win especially if that involves
the lands that are linked to the tribes....So you buy from the Chief if it's a Clan, and you buy from the King if it's a Tribe.
I hope this can help..
How about land grabs, like the ANC is planning?
@@francoiswilliams 🤔?
If your car is stolen and you find it being occupied and driven by someone else, would you buy it back?
Chiefs are our traditional leaders recognised by the government and all land in the rural areas and villages belongs to them! you build on their land your own house unlike in the suburbs were its mayors and council with private land ownership and paid for services
They get salaries and cars from the government.
Ive seen her videos, I don't think these qualify as traditional land, more like large plots for developments in rural areas, as opposed to those one would buy on land owned by municipalities. Ancestral land should be large enough to accommodate homesteading. These are just large homes in what is probably just another suburb. These arent even villages because they rely on towns to supply all their needs. Nothing amazing
Things to note with the chiefs in South Africa is that land is cheap for locals of the village , only the people from the village will get cheap land, for example my dad is from a village, I can’t acquire land in that village unless he buys for me , because I’m not acknowledged as one their own , but this differs from chiefdoms to chiefdoms . Just beware that some are very corrupt ,they will sell you land that owned by another person
Get the chief he's not connected with politics, the stand can cost between R2000 to R10000
In other places you have to take cattle, maybe like two cows tp tje chief as tradition but don't necessarily pay
There are lands that are for the people that's been past to them by older generation,on that land the chiefs over see to the people of that land and that land does not belong to the government. And yes it's affordable to buy hence its not in the urban area.
Most villages we used water pumps ( bore holes)
i learn about my country from you guys lol. Thank you
They took our land, rubbish.
W reaction 💯
I live here, I work here!
The narrator's voice.. Joh💔
Haa... Respect your elders wena
Municipality is only responsible for roads, electricity, water, and refuse removal, then they charge rates for services they provide. Those houses are 100% owned by people that they built them, all have title deeds. The Chiefs are CUSTODIANS of the land and CULTER.
Any female chiefs?
@@francoiswilliams We have a Rain Queen. Queen Modjadji
In traditional African culture we didn't have titleship so land was never owned by people individually or sold, this is not simply in RSA but most Southern African countries.
Land is alloacted by the Chief and usually that can be land to build a home, land for ploughing and land for raising cattle.
The set up differs as in some areas those are three distinct homesteads and peices of land in others these can be combined as one homestead. Obviously if one invests in that land then its advantageous to then acquire a title deed for it.
But generally in traditional African village one wouldn't buy a house becuase you can be given land.
Chiefs play many roles ie traditionally the Chief declares the planting season and during that time you cant have weddings or go to war for example.
So Chief are important but they are not like Kings cuase generally Chiefs lived like and among the people so people always mistakenly equate Chiefs to Kings and these are not the same at all.
But generally you can go to your father's and mothers village or grand parents and if you ask for land youbate entitled to be given that and free. Technically you can go to any village you choose but people usually go to their partenall or martenal villages.
Any female chiefs?
@@francoiswilliams it wasn't common, but it happened from time to time and they were there. It depended on the tribe really.
Some were known as Rain Queens and some as Chiefs but there were roles such as the term Kgosigadi which is female chief in Tswana.
Traditional female medicine (Sanusis / Sangomas / Nyangas) leaders are always referred to in the female format as uGogo as in grandmother
We had Spiritual leaders like Mbuya Nehanda Kaguvi, And the rain Queen Modjadji.
You also had the title of Kgadi which is the female first born or the only female depending on the tribe
She had powers as a respected counselor sort of the role of Mkabayi to Shaka. So the title of Kgadi is still revered.
Traditionally the set up was people had different roles so it wasn't as though only the chief had power if you get my meaning.
Surprisingly traditionally unlike today women were responsible for brewing beer, and also for construction and maintenance of traditional houses. So yah at times we look at history through our eyes so...
I'm sure there are many female Chiefs I haven't mentioned because there were just many Chiefs in general and mostly you have the few that are famous and well known.
99% black i live in lwamondo
M from tshakhuma
What's that supposed to mean?
@VelileLifestyleDecorTV
Her video is linked. :)
The Chiefs are custodians of the land. They can allocate land for zero fee or a token payment. There are not government. They are traditional rulers. A King has many chiefs under him, and the chiefs have portions of land they are in charge of. Chiefs have some sway with their subjects, a bit of influence on many traditional matters. In some communities a chief can settle small disputes. Let's say a groom fails to pay lobola. Now figure out what is LOBOLA. 😅 😅. All of Africa is like that.
Hmm how little faith you have in our knowledge. We know what lobola is.