Learning Zulu is easy compared to Xhosa. But if you learn one of the two, you'll be able to communicate with the other nguni groups easily. The Nguni languages are similar just like learning Sotho will help you communicate with the other two groups (Tswana and Pedi speaking people).
I'm Venda and i am multi-lingual. I've realized that associating with certain tribes is the best way to learn languages. By surrounding myself ive learnt all SA languages.
@@phumlanimncwango7686 make friends with them. Plus they fun and very very accommodating. Also making Friends in townships is your best bet. You will learn all languages. I grew up ekasi. Its a vibe there. Today I can speak all SA languages including other African languages
HOPE YOU SEE THIS Dear, please do a video where we ask you questions about Nigeria and you answer us please. I believe this can help us understand each other better, knowing a few things about Nigerians way of life. You can just ignore the disrespectful questions.Pretty please 🤗
The red clay u are asking about is called ibovu in isiZulu cos it is red, we mostly used it when working outside in the sun as a sunscreen and also it helps in purifying the skin
If you are Muntu person, whether you are from Uganda, speaking Luganda, or you are from Botswana, speaking SiTswana, it is much easier to learn another Bantu language, because in reality, there is only one Bantu language, that has between 400 and 600 dialects, that are called languages. If you are not a Muntu (singular for Bantu by the way), it can take you considerably longer because you have to learn the rules of the Bantu language. There are rules for how we modify nouns by adding prefixes and suffixes to them; there are rules for how verbs are contextualise verbs to be consistent with the subject of noun, etc etc etc
That stuff some women use on their faces is NOT clay,it is ochre which may be red or light brownish .It is used mainly by Zulu & Xhosa women to protect their faces when working out in the sun.
During apartheid dance was probably the only way our people in the townships and former homelands could express ourselves without contravention of the oppressive laws of the day. Pantsula is a great example... It is my opinion that this was the root of our expressive and unique dance skills 🎉🎉🎉... The freedom of dance was and continues to be so liberating ❤
Zulu is challenging (many would say), but it depends on how much you surround yourself with the language, your own language-acquisition skills and just practice it and have fun with it.
Im 56 years old and growingbup the advice i got was to wash my face with green Sunlight bar soap, using my hands and no cloth and once done, dab not rub with a clean towel. Apply vaseline blue seal, when i was a teenager i applied vanish cream to get rid of oily skin. In my 20s and 30s i used milder face creams and avoided most toners and cleaners coz they burned my skin. In my 40s and 50s went back to vaseline. Apply it morning and evening. The stuff put on our faces its ochre called imbola or a bark called umemezi. They both act as a mask for protecting your skin against sunlight and it cleanse and soften the skin.
I would like to think that genetics and climate have everything to do with our skin texture. I think the reason SA dance moves look so complex is because of the Amapantsula dance. There were many dance moves back in the day but many of them came and went, but pantsula remained consistent for the longest time. SA does more footwork than booty shaking. Many African dances involve a lot of booty shaking.
Lobola is a Southern Bantu language word used in a marriage custom starting from Zambia going down. The purpose of Lobola is to show appreciation for the work the bride's family has done in raising a beautiful and righteous woman. It is also meant to show by its size that the man paying it can afford to take care of the woman he is marrying. I am not sure how you can convey that impression by paying kola nuts or a goat or a chicken. In our part of Africa, it is a practise common among the cattle keeping peoples, such as the Tonga-Ila of Zambia, the Zulu, the Xhosa, the Ndebele etc etc... and used denoted in heads of cattle. In practise, it is not as expensive as you think because as A may be B lobola, B has to pay C, and C will pay A... In the macro analysis, no one becomes rich from paying Lobola in the long run, and the main thing that is shared ultimately, is respect and love among the people.
Absolutely. . So the symbolism of the cows is that aBantu believe that male ancestors remain in the kraal in the afterlife. In fact, when they passed on, part of the kraal wall would be removed and that's where they'd be burried and then re-erect the wall. So, the cows represent the sacredness of the family because they are kept at the kraal. So when these cows move from one sacred kraal to the another, it symbolizes: *2 families becoming 1. *The bride marries into the family, not just her husband *The hubby must respect and take good care of her, not only for himself but for his forefathers because she becomes their own daughter, who will become a mother to their grand children.
Hello Oyinkan, first I just want to say you are beautiful, I don’t care how many times you hear this from other commentators. You are also warm and accommodative, I can see that from a distance. It’s my first time to watch your videos in your channel. I’m a South African, and as such, I appreciate what you do because it keeps us all as fellow Africans connected and create a space of learning from each other, especially about our cultures, moral values and beliefs systems. I’m happy because you try by all means to reflect on all positive experiences rather than looking what breaks and demoralize the spirit, and these then breeds criticism, defensive and offensive attitude, of which it is not right at all. I personally cannot travel due to economic circumstances, though I wish I could have reached Nigeria, Ghana, Cameron and so on. So this platform at least it brings us closer to your country, knowing what you do, experience and what you have that we don’t.
Spend more time with people speaking the language. Tip to survive in SA if you plan on moving around is to try and understand/learn Zulu and Sotho, you should survive coz all the other languages are similar to both the 2 languages.
Hi dear, the dance thing is just in us, I think generally coz we are happy people, we just break into a dance anytime😜. Don't worry, most Zulus expect every tribe to know their language😏, though they themselves struggle to learn other languages, just pick the basics unless you wanna go full force. I think the skin might be because of our diet, less oil, more veggies maybe weather too🤔. The clay is some sort of sunscreen. The lobola is a long topic, requires its own video, lol.
@@mavisserufenyatlo5668 also food and inner happiness, which does not seem very common in Nigeria if their movies are an indicator. South Africans take everything in their stride.
Clicks and Dischem is working for us, and we are not exposed to this unkind hot weather. Drinking a lot of water and vegetables . Much obliged my dearest sister ❤️
The red clay is a skin care measure they use it has sunscreen and clay is good for the skin you can find it by the taxi ranks and stuff they sell that red clay there I used to use it and I did see a difference in my skin .
The art of dancing starts in primary school and overlap to our homes. We love to sing and that has to match our dancing. The more we dance the move the perfection. I'm from Pedi tribe dancing is our passion. 🇿🇦🌺. Again singing is one of the extra mural activity at schools and taken seriously up to universities.
*Dancing, humour and singing come easily to us. *Generally, clay is traditional sunscreen. It's also used by sangomas at certain phases of their initiation, but you wouldn't readily see them because they remain in the "quarters"
I'd love to visit Naj Naj again. I have previously been to Lagos (obviously) and Port Harcourt. And my cousin married a Nigerian, so now I also have family there.
Any language is easy to learn, the trick is to constantly be around people who speak the language or places where it’s spoken. Just like kids, kids learn languages quickly because they are not self conscious. They learn a new word now and they use it same time for it to stick.
1. Most of South African people are who like music and dancing for entertainment mostly during church services and any celebration. 2. Lobola negotiations and prices are different based on which race is being conducted. 3. Skin textures based on which part of the South Africa. Northern part of SA is very hot and most people residing there are coffee colour or black. Most people who are residing on the Southern part of SA are light in completion due to cold weather in the area. 4. Traditionally Most of the people who are being introduced to traditional healing school, they apply something on the faces during the period of learning. 5. In SA we have 11 official languages. English is the most commonly known language in SA. Zulu people in SA are in mority and mostly found KZN and Gauteng province. Out of 11 official languages you choose learn the one you're comfortable of. English is the most commonly known one.
Most African South Africans are able to understand Zulu. So, not all is lost if you learn Zulu since our languages are related (Bantu languages cover parts of Cameroon to south of Somalia and all the way to South Africa). A Sotho speaker will understand u if you speak Zulu.
Oyinkan on your questions , On dancing this Nation like to party so that’s why they can dance, Lobolo is normal Negotiation between the two families of the bride and the groom. As for ladies at the market that uses red clay on their faces they’re is just part of skin care that has been use for ages. On learning the Zulu language please go ahead and learn it don’t worry about moving around if you can speak Zulu most of the people even other provinces that they don’t speak Zulu. You be able to communicate with them.
I believe the what you saw on people's faces was calamine cream - if it was like a whitish or light pink/peachy colour. Some say it's for skin lightening or for treating hypepigmentation. I don't have personal experience with with the product but it can be found at most regular health shops e.g. Clicks. If it was a red face paint or cream I'm not too sure (maybe it's made from mud/soil)
I find it difficult to learn a language here in Gauteng because there are so many here speaking various languages. I found it easier when working away in say Botswana or Zimbabwe In Gauteng they seem to have a mixture
Thank you so much for this great video. Your is so positive and friendly as compared to some negative things spoken about us South Africans from our African brothers and sisters. I was very hesitant to listen from this at first and then as I start listening to you I now that you are very friendly and also showing love and respect for SA and its people. I decided to subscribe on your channel as I noticed that your view about us is very different from other Africans from the continent. Keep it up! AFRICAN AMERICANS love our country and it’s people hence I listen to their videos but I leaned sometimes new from this video that not all African s from the continent look down on South Africans. I love my brothers and sisters from the continent and have met many of them in my country as well as overseas when I used to study in US. They are very kind in person but those involved in criminal activities and showing disrespect of my country are the ones who are undesirables. I am very proud of you you. Skin beauty here is natural…I am married to a very naturally beautiful wife…so is my son as well as my skin. We all grew up using Vaselina. Dancing also comes naturally. The kind of dancing is where people display their private parts and simulate sexual moves. That one is disgusting to me as a bornagain CHRISTIAN. The other non sexual dance moves and rhythms are fine for me. I have a beautiful 6 years intelligent daughter who dances naturally…never been taught as to how to dance….it’s all natural God given rhythm.
About Lobola (bride price OR Dowry). The standard of living and the way we conduct the ceremony is what determines the amount needed, but this differ from one tribe to another, for an example; KwaZulu Natal (the Zulus) have quite a lot of events related to the Lobola, and this requires a lot of money, and unfortunately, the bride-groom has to spend. Correct me if I’m wrong, seeing the dramas from Nollywood, I just only see a once-off event during the bride-price payment, which of course to me it will be affordable, compared to us in SA. But still as a diverse society in SA, the ceremonies and events are conducted just a bit different from each other, yet we share a lot in common in relation to Lobola. Another aspect is that, the cost of living in SA is too high and yet still people wants to take pride in what is done for themselves. So as I’ve said, a lot is involved in the Lobola processes. KZN is the most expensive compare to the other provinces, and unfortunately you are exposed to that experience because you are in KZN. You would have a different perception as well if you were in Mpumalanga, and by the way, I’m from Mpumalanga Province.
Lol i love this video. Part 2 please On lobola uhmm my sister that one is a scam now. So many lines have been blurred and now its really about affordability and its very much family specific. Alot of our people no longer follow the core traditional guidelines of lobola because they were usually attached to other things like whether the lady in question is still a virgin, has a child etc… Dancing is in our dna lol. Skin uhmm i think its our diet, the environment/climate and ofcourse genes. I don’t know of any traditional skincare products. Learning Zulu I would suggest watching Zulu tv series like isibaya or gomora with subtitles. The more you hear something the easier it becomes to understand and become aware of certain sounds, meanings, context etc well atleast that’s how I learned some basic Korean words because I watch Kdramas alot. Hope this helps xx
I know a lot of ladies who do not use anything on their faces. Bath twice a day and do house chores early in the morning. When heat start sit under the tree or in house. African a known with the bit of drum, dancing for diverse cultures/heritage day that extended to church and other types of music. Lobola differs according to culture in South Africa. You can still get a bride in Limpopo province for R25000. Money is used to prepare for the wedding. Pedis are concerned about future home building that why they charge less lobola.
We have had a strong music and dance culture for generations whether entertainment,Gospel, Political music has always been how we express ourselves better 2 Lobola is normally based on the economic status of the family, the educational background of the damsel,age, and number of kids The clay is put on mostly by Xhosa and probably Zulu women I first encountered them when I visited to Gauteng I lived in Gauteng for 10 years and I still can't speak nguni languages I can only speak Setswana and Sesotho fluently, and I am Pedi..the easy way is learning one nguni language whether Xhosa,Zulu or Ndebele/Seswati and Learning Sesotho which is closer to Setswana and Sepedi
In Zulu culture Ilobolo is 11 cow non-negotiable if the bride is still a virgin, if she is no longer a virgin is 10 cows, if she has a child from the previous relationship then the lobolo is 9 cows. Most of the cows are slaughtered for custom purpose and maybe the bride family is left with 2 or 3 cows. The lobola culture was not intended for selling of a wife. This culture is for ancestors, thats why there are customes and protocols for lobola and wedding. I am not sure about other tribes and those who are Christians, I don't know how they do thier lobola negotiations
in Limpopo around Burgersfort villages,lobola starts from R20 000 to R70 000 depending on how educated is your spouse,you cant be marrying a house-wife with so much money.and to add on that,it's about pride of a man to spend for at least more than R30 000 for his wife.
Dance is something that runs within our DNA as well as good skin. We have no skin care routine especially men they probably use Vaseline Blue Seal petroleum jelly. As for Lobola is another matter. The clay works as a substitute of sunscreen lotion. It is natural and will not cause any harm to your skin and moreover it will leave your skin smooth. Zulu is the most spoken language if you learn it you’ll beable to communicate with almost everyone especially in Gauteng province.
There was never a set bride price until British colonialism and Apartheid under "Native Affairs laws", at least in some regions of the Eastern Cape. Lobola in the olden days was not just cows. It could be horses, goats, sheep and cows, together with weaponry. So the actual amounts of gifts and bride wealth is determined during the negotiations, and that's it. for royals though it differs depending on the nation. I know in one case a Royal would use weapons as Lobola, in the amaZizi culture based in EC and Lesotho(BaPhuthi). Besides, lobola is just the gifts accompanying the bride price. So the bride price is the cows specifically set aside for the virgin: Magadi/Mahali or iKhazi lentombi(Makhazi).
Ilobolo, is standard, 11 cows. The cost of each cow varies from family to family, so it’s best to buy live cows and let them handle it if they want to play with you.
So the "clay" you see on people's faces, mostly women, is a type of stone, that is ground to be fine. It is then mixed with water to create a paste-like material. It serves as sun screen, and is believed to have some medicinal skin care benefits. Side note, it is predominantly found in Nguni cultures: Xhosa, Zulu, Ndebele, Swati, etc.
Question about Dancing. S Africans are gifted, you cannot take it from us, I’m not boasting or looking down on the other nations, but I concur with you, we are very very good in this. There’s no special mechanism on how to do it, we just do it. We have happy feet!! And unfortunately it is not a transferable skill OR having a special school on learning on how to dance. However I could also say that, because we are a very diverse society in the world, this has changed the way we play with our waist and feet, but after all it comes naturally.
Zulu is relatively easy. Just surround yourself with Zulus. Xhosa anx Zulu are almost the same. Xhisa just has mire clicks. Im Xhosa and I understand Zulu, Swati, Ndebele because its the same group of languages. Another Languafe you shod learn is Sotho and that eill cover the Sotho groip of languages like Pedi and Tswana. Easy
Our grandmothers grewup during the time we call Sophia town where black en white live together until group areas act late 60s so they learn to be ladies of western manners
Watch stories with one dominant language on tv or listen to indigenous language radio stations then supplement that by hanging around people who speak the language.
In SA we have 11 official languages.We group isiZulu,isiXhosa,isiNdebele and Siswati into one Nguni language.And we also group Sepedi,Sesotho and Setswana into Sesotho language.Then you Afrikaans,English,Xitsonga and TshiVenda .
Lobola averages 40k for normal people but can go higher. Lobola considers how you were raised, chastity, and what you bring to the table. But ive seen people with kids and uneducated get lobolad with higher lobola price because of love ❤️
Remember lobola is to establish a relationship between 2 families, one family proposes and the other accepts. It does not have to make sense to people outside of the process.
as for clay thingy i know its some sort of a sun screen cream called calamine lotion, u apply on your face when in the sun it turn greyish like its clay once dry... hence the good skin
The skin clay mask you see older woman they would use it if they were in the field in the olden days, it prevents the skin from sun damage that's all. I guess one would say it's a traditional sun block. The attempt for someone who is a 'foreigner' to any country once s/he tries to learn a language of that country is well received by the locals. Even though s/he may not be 100% fluent in the language it is perceived my the locals that you have a level of appreciation and respect not only for the country but for them as natives as well, in return they give you love and respect as well for the attempt and will be willing to show or teach you more about the language, customs or traditions that way you are in a better position to see true love and what we call ubuntu ( i am because you are) from them. I've noticed with various people from the continent coming to SA many are interested to do what they only came here for and deprive themselves to socialize with native. Some have preconceived notions of what they hear elsewhere and do not want to socialize or make attempts to make to at least learn which creates a barrier. However I've noticed some African Americans that have started coming as well and one thing struck me from them and i was really impressed whilst they want to explore the country as they find it fascinating, what i observed they first want to learn about the history go to museums and try to make some sort of relations with locals in order to get understanding different dimensions or perspective from going to townships or rural and they are well received. South Africans are loving people and kudos to you for giving yourself time to understand them you'll be amazed how they will give you love just by trying to show you are interested to know more about them. To learn a language if possible try to engage with locals much as possible, you will learn so much believe me
Languages:zulu,xhosa,ndebele,swazi if you know one of them they are similar you know all of them. Sotho, Tswana,and pedi are also similar you know one, you know all of them. Lobola is precious your inlaws respect valued you if you are expensive,if you are cheap they dont respect you cause your parents are not valued you Dance:S.A is a musical country we sing and dance even in the funeral in the sport, music is our source of happiness or comforting culturally
Hi beautiful, just surround yourself with close friends who speak that language who would translate for you, just take it easy you will soon know how to construct a sentence in no time because of you optimistic nature
Dance- We are naturally a nation with rhythm. Music and dance are part of our culture & lifestyle. Lobola- For us Zulus, for a virgin its 11 cows & for a girl who is no longer a virgin it's10 cows. That number decreases further if a lady has a child. That's why when a guy impregnates a girl outside marriage, he is then expected to give a girls family 1 cow as compensation for "damages" because on top of bringing shame to the family, the number of cows decreases when she gets married. These days people monitize cows, and just like real cows come in different sizes and costs, the money cows also come in different values with mom & dads cows being more expensive. One need a delegation with good negotiating skills to represent them to avoid paying too much. MOST OF THAT MONEY GOES TOWARDS WEDDING PREPARATIONS. Families are not the same, some have high prices & some have less or none at all. But for a princess, like a daughter of a king/chief, the amount of cows is usually from 22 upwards because they are royalty & it's usually real cows cos kings keep those. Its all about building relationship between two families, and traditionally you do not go to a persons house empty handed, generally, worse when you come to ask to take their daughter away, it is considered a sign of respect to bring gifts as a token of appreciation for raising a girl who is going now going to add value into your family. Cows were valuable gifts and tokens of some sort. The grooms family also receives a lot of gifts in return as a token accepting the relationship & appreciation. A bride is usually sent off with different types of gifts for the whole grooms family & his extended family ( & sometimes money for herself)
Dance is in our genes I guess when we sad we dance n when we happy we dance .when we fight against the injustices in our country we dance it called toy toy.we r a dancing nation
You look & feel South African. Your husband is a very lucky man, you sound learned & sophisticated which is really attractive for any man man. I wish you the best in everything. I suppose if you learn isiZulu you can communicate with 90% of the population. Lalela means listen, lalala, means sleep here, lutho means nothing, letha means bring 😅
These examples are sending me but I think every language has words like this. For example in my language Ara means body, Ará means member, and Àrà means wonder 🤣 Thanks for your comment 🙏
Just learn joburg Zulu coz original Zulu frm KZN is difficult. Trust u me its not easy to learn bcoz they laugh at u when u try to speak. But if you Know 2 joburg languages Zulu/Sotho, u r done coz every where in SA will hear u
The expensive price of lobola is by colonial design. For us Zulu people, the number of cows was determined by Sir Theophilus Shepstone (Somtseu). Zulu people were resisting to work for the white man and high lobola meant that if they didn't work for the white man, they would never get married. The high price was then passed down generations with many not knowing this history.
About the lobola for us the Xhosas 1 When she has a kid or kids & not finished school theres certain amount of cows (cheapest) 2 when she doesn't have children & not completed her education cows are better than previous 3 when she's a Virgin and completed school and independent most expensive etc Then you negotiate as best as you can where applicable like ( when there are rumors she slept with so and so)
Skin care we are black first we do have traditional ways, where we use certain herbs to steam our faces for acne reasons, and the western skincare routines of course, but some people do just have good skin, our geographical location as well because though we do have hot summers but the heat isn't as aggressive as in other african countries climate plays a huge role on a persons skin..
Its difficult to learn a language especially in Gauteng because of many tribal groups there ,Pedi ,Xhosa, Zulu & Sisuthu.Take your time and you will gradually learn as assimilate.
1) lobola : it's always the uncle no body knows that set crazy prices, with intention to get rich quick 2) dance : kids party a lot, so it's expected they will pickup something from young and improve on it 3) skin : no idea they had a good one than anybody else, probably climate and maybe food 4) clay : no body do that en those who do are probably immigrants, those few I've seen are street vendors and it probably has something to do with protecting face from sun due to time spend in sun, en Xhosa just do the drawing similar to some Nigerian cultures I think. Any way I could be wrong...
The best way to learn a language is to interact with the people who speak the language
Learning Zulu is easy compared to Xhosa. But if you learn one of the two, you'll be able to communicate with the other nguni groups easily. The Nguni languages are similar just like learning Sotho will help you communicate with the other two groups (Tswana and Pedi speaking people).
I'm Venda and i am multi-lingual. I've realized that associating with certain tribes is the best way to learn languages. By surrounding myself ive learnt all SA languages.
no language is difficult than the other.
True story. I learned Venda just by staying with them for around six months. I wasn't even trying learn.
I've been trying to do that since I came to JHB from KZN. It's not going great at the moment but I'll get there.
@@phumlanimncwango7686 make friends with them. Plus they fun and very very accommodating. Also making Friends in townships is your best bet. You will learn all languages. I grew up ekasi. Its a vibe there. Today I can speak all SA languages including other African languages
Venda and Sepedi share a lot of vocabulary it's just that Venda accent is unique closer to Shona in Zim
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Dear, please do a video where we ask you questions about Nigeria and you answer us please. I believe this can help us understand each other better, knowing a few things about Nigerians way of life. You can just ignore the disrespectful questions.Pretty please 🤗
Thanks for the idea! I'll put up a question post on my community tab so you can send all your questions in. It'll be fun 🤗
The red clay u are asking about is called ibovu in isiZulu cos it is red, we mostly used it when working outside in the sun as a sunscreen and also it helps in purifying the skin
If you are Muntu person, whether you are from Uganda, speaking Luganda, or you are from Botswana, speaking SiTswana, it is much easier to learn another Bantu language, because in reality, there is only one Bantu language, that has between 400 and 600 dialects, that are called languages. If you are not a Muntu (singular for Bantu by the way), it can take you considerably longer because you have to learn the rules of the Bantu language. There are rules for how we modify nouns by adding prefixes and suffixes to them; there are rules for how verbs are contextualise verbs to be consistent with the subject of noun, etc etc etc
Setswana *
I think we take hygiene serious from birth to death
That stuff some women use on their faces is NOT clay,it is ochre which may be red or light brownish .It is used mainly by Zulu & Xhosa women to protect their faces when working out in the sun.
aaaand ochre is very very effective!
During apartheid dance was probably the only way our people in the townships and former homelands could express ourselves without contravention of the oppressive laws of the day. Pantsula is a great example... It is my opinion that this was the root of our expressive and unique dance skills 🎉🎉🎉... The freedom of dance was and continues to be so liberating ❤
Beautiful! Dance is indeed a liberating expression 🤗
Beautiful! Dance is indeed a liberating expression 🤗
This was beautifully explained
I have no answers for any of your questions but i would tell you this for free,you are such an open minded person and that will take u far in life ❤
Thanksssss 🤗
Zulu is challenging (many would say), but it depends on how much you surround yourself with the language, your own language-acquisition skills and just practice it and have fun with it.
I learned it by just watching TV and reading the subtitles...😂😂😂
Will definitely try to have fun with it 👍
Im 56 years old and growingbup the advice i got was to wash my face with green Sunlight bar soap, using my hands and no cloth and once done, dab not rub with a clean towel. Apply vaseline blue seal, when i was a teenager i applied vanish cream to get rid of oily skin. In my 20s and 30s i used milder face creams and avoided most toners and cleaners coz they burned my skin. In my 40s and 50s went back to vaseline. Apply it morning and evening. The stuff put on our faces its ochre called imbola or a bark called umemezi. They both act as a mask for protecting your skin against sunlight and it cleanse and soften the skin.
Thank you for such a detailed comment ma'am. It's a pleasure to have you here 🤗🤗🤗
@@oyinkanhoney I like your content my beloved. May your channel grow❤️
I would like to think that genetics and climate have everything to do with our skin texture. I think the reason SA dance moves look so complex is because of the Amapantsula dance. There were many dance moves back in the day but many of them came and went, but pantsula remained consistent for the longest time. SA does more footwork than booty shaking. Many African dances involve a lot of booty shaking.
This is very interesting, firsr time I'm hearing 'Amapantsula'. I'll go research it 👍
If u speak xhosa, Ndebele,siswati,Zulu usually we call it Nguni languages ,so their are some words tht are similar in this languages .
I will be in the comment section learning!
Lobola is a Southern Bantu language word used in a marriage custom starting from Zambia going down. The purpose of Lobola is to show appreciation for the work the bride's family has done in raising a beautiful and righteous woman. It is also meant to show by its size that the man paying it can afford to take care of the woman he is marrying. I am not sure how you can convey that impression by paying kola nuts or a goat or a chicken. In our part of Africa, it is a practise common among the cattle keeping peoples, such as the Tonga-Ila of Zambia, the Zulu, the Xhosa, the Ndebele etc etc... and used denoted in heads of cattle. In practise, it is not as expensive as you think because as A may be B lobola, B has to pay C, and C will pay A... In the macro analysis, no one becomes rich from paying Lobola in the long run, and the main thing that is shared ultimately, is respect and love among the people.
Absolutely. . So the symbolism of the cows is that aBantu believe that male ancestors remain in the kraal in the afterlife. In fact, when they passed on, part of the kraal wall would be removed and that's where they'd be burried and then re-erect the wall. So, the cows represent the sacredness of the family because they are kept at the kraal.
So when these cows move from one sacred kraal to the another, it symbolizes:
*2 families becoming 1.
*The bride marries into the family, not just her husband
*The hubby must respect and take good care of her, not only for himself but for his forefathers because she becomes their own daughter, who will become a mother to their grand children.
@@thenjiwekubeka3834 Excellent, absolutely correct
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Hello Oyinkan, first I just want to say you are beautiful, I don’t care how many times you hear this from other commentators. You are also warm and accommodative, I can see that from a distance.
It’s my first time to watch your videos in your channel. I’m a South African, and as such, I appreciate what you do because it keeps us all as fellow Africans connected and create a space of learning from each other, especially about our cultures, moral values and beliefs systems.
I’m happy because you try by all means to reflect on all positive experiences rather than looking what breaks and demoralize the spirit, and these then breeds criticism, defensive and offensive attitude, of which it is not right at all. I personally cannot travel due to economic circumstances, though I wish I could have reached Nigeria, Ghana, Cameron and so on. So this platform at least it brings us closer to your country, knowing what you do, experience and what you have that we don’t.
Hello Sabelo, this means a lot! Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words, God bless you.
Love your personality
Aww thank you so much 🙏😊
Clay on their face is use for sun protection especially if those woman work on the sun for the long hour and to keep their complaction
Spend more time with people speaking the language. Tip to survive in SA if you plan on moving around is to try and understand/learn Zulu and Sotho, you should survive coz all the other languages are similar to both the 2 languages.
Thapelo nailed it!!!
Yup, South Africans are good dancers and god vocalists as well, no one comes close
Ahh the vocalsssa! Angelic! 👏
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Welcome aboard!🤗
Hi dear, the dance thing is just in us, I think generally coz we are happy people, we just break into a dance anytime😜. Don't worry, most Zulus expect every tribe to know their language😏, though they themselves struggle to learn other languages, just pick the basics unless you wanna go full force. I think the skin might be because of our diet, less oil, more veggies maybe weather too🤔. The clay is some sort of sunscreen. The lobola is a long topic, requires its own video, lol.
Yes the weather I think,like I heard Nigeria is very hot,possibly other countries are hot,SA is hot but not all throughout
@@mavisserufenyatlo5668 also food and inner happiness, which does not seem very common in Nigeria if their movies are an indicator.
South Africans take everything in their stride.
Hehehe thanks sis 👍
I promise you we have food and we are happy yoh 🙆🏾♀️
No skin routine Sesi, It's in our DNA.
Blessed people 😅👍
Skin care: sunlight soap, the green one in the yellow pack and Vaseline blue seal.
Wowww 😄👏
Clicks and Dischem is working for us, and we are not exposed to this unkind hot weather. Drinking a lot of water and vegetables . Much obliged my dearest sister ❤️
Clicks and Dischem are national treasures 😅🙏
The red clay is a skin care measure they use it has sunscreen and clay is good for the skin you can find it by the taxi ranks and stuff they sell that red clay there I used to use it and I did see a difference in my skin .
The art of dancing starts in primary school and overlap to our homes. We love to sing and that has to match our dancing. The more we dance the move the perfection. I'm from Pedi tribe dancing is our passion. 🇿🇦🌺. Again singing is one of the extra mural activity at schools and taken seriously up to universities.
It's so beautiful to see the kids dancing joyfully. Love it 💃
*Dancing, humour and singing come easily to us.
*Generally, clay is traditional sunscreen.
It's also used by sangomas at certain phases of their initiation, but you wouldn't readily see them because they remain in the "quarters"
Cool! 👍
The orange clay we call it 'ibomvu' in Zulu. It protect the face from the sum
I'd love to visit Naj Naj again. I have previously been to Lagos (obviously) and Port Harcourt. And my cousin married a Nigerian, so now I also have family there.
Oh nice. I hope you had a nice time there, and I hope it will be even better when uou visit again. Cheers👍
Any language is easy to learn, the trick is to constantly be around people who speak the language or places where it’s spoken. Just like kids, kids learn languages quickly because they are not self conscious. They learn a new word now and they use it same time for it to stick.
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1. Most of South African people are who like music and dancing for entertainment mostly during church services and any celebration.
2. Lobola negotiations and prices are different based on which race is being conducted.
3. Skin textures based on which part of the South Africa. Northern part of SA is very hot and most people residing there are coffee colour or black. Most people who are residing on the Southern part of SA are light in completion due to cold weather in the area.
4. Traditionally Most of the people who are being introduced to traditional healing school, they apply something on the faces during the period of learning.
5. In SA we have 11 official languages. English is the most commonly known language in SA. Zulu people in SA are in mority and mostly found KZN and Gauteng province. Out of 11 official languages you choose learn the one you're comfortable of. English is the most commonly known one.
Thanks for the detailed response 👏👍
Great video. Watching from SE Florida in the States.
Thanks a million!👍
Most African South Africans are able to understand Zulu. So, not all is lost if you learn Zulu since our languages are related (Bantu languages cover parts of Cameroon to south of Somalia and all the way to South Africa). A Sotho speaker will understand u if you speak Zulu.
Oyinkan on your questions , On dancing this Nation like to party so that’s why they can dance, Lobolo is normal Negotiation between the two families of the bride and the groom. As for ladies at the market that uses red clay on their faces they’re is just part of skin care that has been use for ages. On learning the Zulu language please go ahead and learn it don’t worry about moving around if you can speak Zulu most of the people even other provinces that they don’t speak Zulu. You be able to communicate with them.
Thanks for your detailed comment 👍👏
We agree on the price of the cows before negotiations for the number of cows to pay.
We dance so good because when you’re small the older people always say come and dance for me so I guess that’s why
Ahh okay 😅
I believe the what you saw on people's faces was calamine cream - if it was like a whitish or light pink/peachy colour. Some say it's for skin lightening or for treating hypepigmentation. I don't have personal experience with with the product but it can be found at most regular health shops e.g. Clicks. If it was a red face paint or cream I'm not too sure (maybe it's made from mud/soil)
You’re beautiful sis ❤ you from a KZN Zulu it’s crazy how we look alike has Africans
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
I find it difficult to learn a language here in Gauteng because there are so many here speaking various languages. I found it easier when working away in say Botswana or Zimbabwe In Gauteng they seem to have a mixture
Interesting!👍
The clay youre talking about is brilliant sunscreen by the way
Thank you so much for this great video. Your is so positive and friendly as compared to some negative things spoken about us South Africans from our African brothers and sisters. I was very hesitant to listen from this at first and then as I start listening to you I now that you are very friendly and also showing love and respect for SA and its people. I decided to subscribe on your channel as I noticed that your view about us is very different from other Africans from the continent. Keep it up! AFRICAN AMERICANS love our country and it’s people hence I listen to their videos but I leaned sometimes new from this video that not all African s from the continent look down on South Africans. I love my brothers and sisters from the continent and have met many of them in my country as well as overseas when I used to study in US. They are very kind in person but those involved in criminal activities and showing disrespect of my country are the ones who are undesirables. I am very proud of you you. Skin beauty here is natural…I am married to a very naturally beautiful wife…so is my son as well as my skin. We all grew up using Vaselina. Dancing also comes naturally. The kind of dancing is where people display their private parts and simulate sexual moves. That one is disgusting to me as a bornagain CHRISTIAN. The other non sexual dance moves and rhythms are fine for me. I have a beautiful 6 years intelligent daughter who dances naturally…never been taught as to how to dance….it’s all natural God given rhythm.
Oh lovely! Bless you 👏
About Lobola (bride price OR Dowry).
The standard of living and the way we conduct the ceremony is what determines the amount needed, but this differ from one tribe to another, for an example; KwaZulu Natal (the Zulus) have quite a lot of events related to the Lobola, and this requires a lot of money, and unfortunately, the bride-groom has to spend. Correct me if I’m wrong, seeing the dramas from Nollywood, I just only see a once-off event during the bride-price payment, which of course to me it will be affordable, compared to us in SA. But still as a diverse society in SA, the ceremonies and events are conducted just a bit different from each other, yet we share a lot in common in relation to Lobola.
Another aspect is that, the cost of living in SA is too high and yet still people wants to take pride in what is done for themselves. So as I’ve said, a lot is involved in the Lobola processes. KZN is the most expensive compare to the other provinces, and unfortunately you are exposed to that experience because you are in KZN. You would have a different perception as well if you were in Mpumalanga, and by the way, I’m from Mpumalanga Province.
😂😂😂 The clay is a homemade sunscreen dear because they work in the sun
We are a dancing nation❤❤❤ and we love music. With Social Media it has become easy to learn dance routines.
Yesssss 💃💃💃
The clay you see it's red clay mixed with butter to protect you from the sun and sometimes they use tumeric
To add on the dancing part. If you watch our soccer matches, the way we play soccer we dance on the ball. It's just the way we are, it's our culture.
Ahh nice!
Lol i love this video. Part 2 please
On lobola uhmm my sister that one is a scam now. So many lines have been blurred and now its really about affordability and its very much family specific. Alot of our people no longer follow the core traditional guidelines of lobola because they were usually attached to other things like whether the lady in question is still a virgin, has a child etc…
Dancing is in our dna lol.
Skin uhmm i think its our diet, the environment/climate and ofcourse genes. I don’t know of any traditional skincare products.
Learning Zulu I would suggest watching Zulu tv series like isibaya or gomora with subtitles. The more you hear something the easier it becomes to understand and become aware of certain sounds, meanings, context etc well atleast that’s how I learned some basic Korean words because I watch Kdramas alot. Hope this helps xx
Thanks thanks! Great explanations! I'll start working on part 2! 🤗
I know a lot of ladies who do not use anything on their faces. Bath twice a day and do house chores early in the morning. When heat start sit under the tree or in house. African a known with the bit of drum, dancing for diverse cultures/heritage day that extended to church and other types of music. Lobola differs according to culture in South Africa. You can still get a bride in Limpopo province for R25000. Money is used to prepare for the wedding. Pedis are concerned about future home building that why they charge less lobola.
your are very beautiful Nigerian💙 women / with all respect
Thanks friend 😊
About the clay is for sunscreen and pimple or acne control.
Love your content Oyi!
This means so much to me. Thank you! 🤗🤗🤗
We have had a strong music and dance culture for generations whether entertainment,Gospel, Political music has always been how we express ourselves better
2 Lobola is normally based on the economic status of the family, the educational background of the damsel,age, and number of kids
The clay is put on mostly by Xhosa and probably Zulu women I first encountered them when I visited to Gauteng
I lived in Gauteng for 10 years and I still can't speak nguni languages I can only speak Setswana and Sesotho fluently, and I am Pedi..the easy way is learning one nguni language whether Xhosa,Zulu or Ndebele/Seswati and Learning Sesotho which is closer to Setswana and Sepedi
Thanks for explaining so well 🤗
In Zulu culture
Ilobolo is 11 cow non-negotiable if the bride is still a virgin, if she is no longer a virgin is 10 cows, if she has a child from the previous relationship then the lobolo is 9 cows.
Most of the cows are slaughtered for custom purpose and maybe the bride family is left with 2 or 3 cows. The lobola culture was not intended for selling of a wife. This culture is for ancestors, thats why there are customes and protocols for lobola and wedding.
I am not sure about other tribes and those who are Christians, I don't know how they do thier lobola negotiations
This one of 11 cows needs to be revised. Remember that it was stipulated by Shepstone while he was handling the Bantu Affairs.
in Limpopo around Burgersfort villages,lobola starts from R20 000 to R70 000 depending on how educated is your spouse,you cant be marrying a house-wife with so much money.and to add on that,it's about pride of a man to spend for at least more than R30 000 for his wife.
Tjo lejewa dichelete lona mos
Dance is something that runs within our DNA as well as good skin. We have no skin care routine especially men they probably use Vaseline Blue Seal petroleum jelly. As for Lobola is another matter. The clay works as a substitute of sunscreen lotion. It is natural and will not cause any harm to your skin and moreover it will leave your skin smooth. Zulu is the most spoken language if you learn it you’ll beable to communicate with almost everyone especially in Gauteng province.
Cool! Now running to buy 50 vaselines 😅👍
There was never a set bride price until British colonialism and Apartheid under "Native Affairs laws", at least in some regions of the Eastern Cape.
Lobola in the olden days was not just cows. It could be horses, goats, sheep and cows, together with weaponry. So the actual amounts of gifts and bride wealth is determined during the negotiations, and that's it. for royals though it differs depending on the nation.
I know in one case a Royal would use weapons as Lobola, in the amaZizi culture based in EC and Lesotho(BaPhuthi).
Besides, lobola is just the gifts accompanying the bride price.
So the bride price is the cows specifically set aside for the virgin: Magadi/Mahali or iKhazi lentombi(Makhazi).
Great 👍
Ilobolo, is standard, 11 cows. The cost of each cow varies from family to family, so it’s best to buy live cows and let them handle it if they want to play with you.
"if they want to play with you" 🤣
The clay thing, it's a stone that is ground and mixed with water. It makes the skin smooth and also acts as sunscreen.
correct
the skin care is the green bar sunlight soap 😂😂😂.....i'm kidding
I would have bought it 🤣
So the "clay" you see on people's faces, mostly women, is a type of stone, that is ground to be fine. It is then mixed with water to create a paste-like material. It serves as sun screen, and is believed to have some medicinal skin care benefits. Side note, it is predominantly found in Nguni cultures: Xhosa, Zulu, Ndebele, Swati, etc.
Question about Dancing. S Africans are gifted, you cannot take it from us, I’m not boasting or looking down on the other nations, but I concur with you, we are very very good in this. There’s no special mechanism on how to do it, we just do it. We have happy feet!! And unfortunately it is not a transferable skill OR having a special school on learning on how to dance. However I could also say that, because we are a very diverse society in the world, this has changed the way we play with our waist and feet, but after all it comes naturally.
Part 2 please 😅
It's coming!
The clay is used as sunscreen basically
Nigerians speak so beautifully I love y’all’s language has a Zulu
Lol yes and loudly
Hella expressive I love it
Lobola is not expensive in the Setswana, Sesotho and Sepedi culture....we pay 3-6 cows(R25k-R80k)
What? that is expensive. This Mahadi has become more about money
I wanna know how my Nigerian brothers have such strong and beautiful physique.
I've tried egusi but I'm not seeing results yet 😢
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Zulu is relatively easy. Just surround yourself with Zulus. Xhosa anx Zulu are almost the same. Xhisa just has mire clicks. Im Xhosa and I understand Zulu, Swati, Ndebele because its the same group of languages. Another Languafe you shod learn is Sotho and that eill cover the Sotho groip of languages like Pedi and Tswana. Easy
So help me God 🙏
The quality of water we drink contribute to the skin quality. Look at you now😊
Dancing 😂😂😂 Sisonke ( that makes the two of us, left feet 😅😅😅
Haibo we must learn 😅
Our grandmothers grewup during the time we call Sophia town where black en white live together until group areas act late 60s so they learn to be ladies of western manners
Watch stories with one dominant language on tv or listen to indigenous language radio stations then supplement that by hanging around people who speak the language.
Dances comes naturally sister. Its like something in the DNA. Skin can be impacted by number of things. Like environment condition.
I need to absorb that dancing talent! 💃
It's easy to speak Zulu because most of the programmes on television and music are in Zulu
Hasn't been easy for me 😅
In SA we have 11 official languages.We group isiZulu,isiXhosa,isiNdebele and Siswati into one Nguni language.And we also group Sepedi,Sesotho and Setswana into Sesotho language.Then you Afrikaans,English,Xitsonga and TshiVenda .
Clay musking is simple your sunscreen, my dear 🎉🎉🎉
Lobola averages 40k for normal people but can go higher. Lobola considers how you were raised, chastity, and what you bring to the table. But ive seen people with kids and uneducated get lobolad with higher lobola price because of love ❤️
And thats so funny to me cause,what was the reason?🤣😂the concept is null atp.
Remember lobola is to establish a relationship between 2 families, one family proposes and the other accepts. It does not have to make sense to people outside of the process.
as for clay thingy i know its some sort of a sun screen cream called calamine lotion, u apply on your face when in the sun it turn greyish like its clay once dry... hence the good skin
Calamine is for acne/tubaba.
Thanks for sharing!!
The skin clay mask you see older woman they would use it if they were in the field in the olden days, it prevents the skin from sun damage that's all. I guess one would say it's a traditional sun block.
The attempt for someone who is a 'foreigner' to any country once s/he tries to learn a language of that country is well received by the locals. Even though s/he may not be 100% fluent in the language it is perceived my the locals that you have a level of appreciation and respect not only for the country but for them as natives as well, in return they give you love and respect as well for the attempt and will be willing to show or teach you more about the language, customs or traditions that way you are in a better position to see true love and what we call ubuntu ( i am because you are) from them. I've noticed with various people from the continent coming to SA many are interested to do what they only came here for and deprive themselves to socialize with native. Some have preconceived notions of what they hear elsewhere and do not want to socialize or make attempts to make to at least learn which creates a barrier. However I've noticed some African Americans that have started coming as well and one thing struck me from them and i was really impressed whilst they want to explore the country as they find it fascinating, what i observed they first want to learn about the history go to museums and try to make some sort of relations with locals in order to get understanding different dimensions or perspective from going to townships or rural and they are well received. South Africans are loving people and kudos to you for giving yourself time to understand them you'll be amazed how they will give you love just by trying to show you are interested to know more about them.
To learn a language if possible try to engage with locals much as possible, you will learn so much believe me
Indeed, South Africans are largely loving and blessed people 👍
Languages:zulu,xhosa,ndebele,swazi if you know one of them they are similar you know all of them.
Sotho, Tswana,and pedi are also similar you know one, you know all of them.
Lobola is precious your inlaws respect valued you if you are expensive,if you are cheap they dont respect you cause your parents are not valued you
Dance:S.A is a musical country we sing and dance even in the funeral in the sport, music is our source of happiness or comforting culturally
Hi beautiful, just surround yourself with close friends who speak that language who would translate for you, just take it easy you will soon know how to construct a sentence in no time because of you optimistic nature
Thanks 🙏
The clay - its a traditional sun screen
Sometimes i feel like I'm the only SOUTH AFRICAN that can't dance😭😭🤣🤣
Eish 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isigqi somzantsi .. Drums are our life 😅❤👋🤾🔥🇿🇦
Our skin is textured by radical change in climate, especially out 4 seasons.
Dance- We are naturally a nation with rhythm. Music and dance are part of our culture & lifestyle.
Lobola- For us Zulus, for a virgin its 11 cows & for a girl who is no longer a virgin it's10 cows. That number decreases further if a lady has a child. That's why when a guy impregnates a girl outside marriage, he is then expected to give a girls family 1 cow as compensation for "damages" because on top of bringing shame to the family, the number of cows decreases when she gets married. These days people monitize cows, and just like real cows come in different sizes and costs, the money cows also come in different values with mom & dads cows being more expensive. One need a delegation with good negotiating skills to represent them to avoid paying too much. MOST OF THAT MONEY GOES TOWARDS WEDDING PREPARATIONS.
Families are not the same, some have high prices & some have less or none at all.
But for a princess, like a daughter of a king/chief, the amount of cows is usually from 22 upwards because they are royalty & it's usually real cows cos kings keep those.
Its all about building relationship between two families, and traditionally you do not go to a persons house empty handed, generally, worse when you come to ask to take their daughter away, it is considered a sign of respect to bring gifts as a token of appreciation for raising a girl who is going now going to add value into your family. Cows were valuable gifts and tokens of some sort. The grooms family also receives a lot of gifts in return as a token accepting the relationship & appreciation. A bride is usually sent off with different types of gifts for the whole grooms family & his extended family ( & sometimes money for herself)
Wow thanks for such a detailed explanation. Glad to have you here 👏👏👏
Nice video. Keep it up
Thanks🙏
Dance is in our genes I guess when we sad we dance n when we happy we dance .when we fight against the injustices in our country we dance it called toy toy.we r a dancing nation
Yes! 👌
You look & feel South African. Your husband is a very lucky man, you sound learned & sophisticated which is really attractive for any man man. I wish you the best in everything. I suppose if you learn isiZulu you can communicate with 90% of the population. Lalela means listen, lalala, means sleep here, lutho means nothing, letha means bring 😅
These examples are sending me but I think every language has words like this. For example in my language Ara means body, Ará means member, and Àrà means wonder 🤣
Thanks for your comment 🙏
Sweater is called jersey here in SA
Yesssss, I remember how that first confused me 😄
Just learn joburg Zulu coz original Zulu frm KZN is difficult. Trust u me its not easy to learn bcoz they laugh at u when u try to speak. But if you Know 2 joburg languages Zulu/Sotho, u r done coz every where in SA will hear u
The expensive price of lobola is by colonial design. For us Zulu people, the number of cows was determined by Sir Theophilus Shepstone (Somtseu). Zulu people were resisting to work for the white man and high lobola meant that if they didn't work for the white man, they would never get married. The high price was then passed down generations with many not knowing this history.
Hmm this is interesting 👍
Wayishaya esikhonkosini Nondaba .
About the lobola for us the Xhosas
1 When she has a kid or kids & not finished school theres certain amount of cows (cheapest)
2 when she doesn't have children & not completed her education cows are better than previous
3 when she's a Virgin and completed school and independent most expensive etc
Then you negotiate as best as you can where applicable like ( when there are rumors she slept with so and so)
Hmm interesting
I'd suggest you also read about Sophiatown angel 🙂
Will do 👍
Skin care we are black first we do have traditional ways, where we use certain herbs to steam our faces for acne reasons, and the western skincare routines of course, but some people do just have good skin, our geographical location as well because though we do have hot summers but the heat isn't as aggressive as in other african countries climate plays a huge role on a persons skin..
Nice. I'll like to learn more about the steaming herbs 👍
The clay is natural sunscreen, just clay and water hun!
Its difficult to learn a language especially in Gauteng because of many tribal groups there ,Pedi ,Xhosa, Zulu & Sisuthu.Take your time and you will gradually learn as assimilate.
1) lobola : it's always the uncle no body knows that set crazy prices, with intention to get rich quick
2) dance : kids party a lot, so it's expected they will pickup something from young and improve on it
3) skin : no idea they had a good one than anybody else, probably climate and maybe food
4) clay : no body do that en those who do are probably immigrants, those few I've seen are street vendors and it probably has something to do with protecting face from sun due to time spend in sun, en Xhosa just do the drawing similar to some Nigerian cultures I think. Any way I could be wrong...
The clay in the face is actually orche and it's called ibovu/ibomvu in isiZulu it's used as sun screen