I'm from Medway (born in Chatham, lived most of my life in Gillingham) Honestly: I respect the Dutch for trying to burn Chatham to the ground. It would have improved the place considerably.
Most English citizens at the time were rather (pleasantly) surprised that the Dutch didn't burn down or pillage, and restricted themselves to military targets. If only the English showed us the same respect ; )
It gets better: the chap that broke the chain ? Jan van Brakel ? He had a ship named after him that served in the Royal Netherlands Navy-in exile during WW2. On 14 December 1941, the ship was tasked with protecting the Chatham port area, and it accidentally hit and damaged one of the buoys protecting the harbour mouth. Out went the signal to the navy station: "Van Brakel damages port defence Medway". Not even a minute later, a signal came back: "What ? Again ?" True story. This actually happened.
Correct . the Same van Brakel would become the Commander of a combined dutch /british fleet during the period that the Prinse of orange was king in england.
If I may say so, God bless the Dutch, we've had a few punch ups here and there but, really it was just sibling rivalry to us two, always there when we needed you against the French and Spaniards! Plus our beloved William of Orange come over here and defended our Constitutional Monarchy in 1688-90 in the wars against King James and he's fenians. God save the Dutch, one of our best allies and rivals we've had the honour of knowing nothing but deep respect for the Dutch 🇬🇧 🇳🇱
@@thedrugdealerinthehomedepotThere is debate over the exact causes but generally speaking the orange was fazed out by the reducing support for the royal family (where the orange came from). It started getting replaced with red by the republicans before being made offical in the 1700s.
@@thedrugdealerinthehomedepot The theory I heard is that the orange dye would turn red in the sun & salt on the sea-going ships. Being penny-saving and smart business men, the merchants decided to use red-white-blue for their ship-flags instead of constantly buying new flags. As merchant ships were among the primary places where the Dutch flag was used, that eventually just became the standard flag
We still have the stern piece of the ship "HMS Royal Charles' in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. We seized the ship from the Medway to show the English they weren't invincible on their island.
@@gammonsandwich1756 Can you blame us? We imagine having a sea around us as a moat, so we can just chill. Even if the French and the Germans feel that urge to kill eachother again, as happens from time to time. It's like a nice warm blanket. And we all know the monsters can't get to you if you hide under your blanket. That's just basic science.
We literally had to liberate and feed your nation in world war 2. And take control of Indonesia for a while. We also had the final say in the Anglo-dutch wars ;).
This song is actually rather sad. The lament of sailors, soldiers, and marines seeing their leadership let them waste away while they themselves gorge and indulge in every vice after the foe have come and laid them to waste. Glad that Britain and the Netherlands later mended things. Hope horrid war never graces Europe again, sans the current Russo-Ukraine War. Love from America. 🇺🇲❤🏴/🇬🇧❤🇳🇱
Yeah war is always sad, but I have little sympathy for these sailors. The same men murdered many civilians like the Terschelling massacre. They burned the women and children alive for being Dutch. Just like you treated the Irish, Scottish, Indians, Africans, Native Americans, etc. No mercy for the merciless💯
@@vatsal7640 Yeah, I would understand Indonesians not feeling sadness for the Dutch marines who died against the Japanese. Which the Indonesians did; they even murdered many Dutch civilians when they had the chance after the ‘politional actions’ by the Dutch. These ‘actions’ were murdering and raping rebels, so that’s why the Indonesians (rebels) took revenge. Our government also fucked over the Moluccan people badly. But I should not be held responsible for the actions of my countries government, let alone the actions of governments in the past.
@@fuop8718 Lowestoft got rectified with the Four Days' battle. And Texel just sealed the deal for the Anglo-Dutch rivalry. Camperdown was also not as easy a victory for you guys, being costlier than Trafalgar when applied to the same scale ;)
@@lollius88 Honestly shouldn't count as an Anglo-Dutch war. I'll give it to you, the British thoroughly trounced us there. But the first 3 Anglo-Dutch wars happened within the same generation, the "4th" happened a century after the last one.
@@halorecon95 Yes, but it was still a war between the Angles and the Dutch. Thus an Anglo-Dutch war. Now we can rest easy, having the last laugh, and building the largest empire the world had ever seen 😌 As a side note, the British casualties at Trafalgar was 10x smaller than that of the Allies, so that comparison means nothing.
@@fuop8718 england are you stupid it was a grave yard for them ,no invasion ever happend by the brits the ones that landed where all killed . prussia was never an enemy of the dutch or had any wars with them indact the prusian kings sister was the wife of willem of orange . France , only invaded Holland ones . and got slaugterd . and only came to power for a short time due to a coupe . Now go back to your teletubies and change your diaper . As your to young to read actual history .
In 1667 the dutch and english where at war, by 1689 (22 years later) King James II was removed from the English throne and was replaced by a Dutchman. the Stewart kings of england proved themselves unworthy to rule. i imagine the feasting of Charles II, while his men where torn apart (as detailed in this song) greatly contributed to the fall of the Stewart dynasty.
@@010Jordi He was the Prince of Orange, from 1650 to 1702. But it does not refer to the Netherlands. It refers to the sovereign Principality of Orange, what is around Avignon in France.
@@KGI_KlikoNL I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but during the war of Spanish succession the title and ownership of Orange were also on the line, at the treaty of Utrecht, with William III of Orange childless, it was decided to allow the Dutch to keep the title "prince of Orange" since it was extremely popular, but Orange itself would be given to Louis XIV while the Dutch would get some of upper guelre territory under french control. This settled both Dutch succession (going to Friso, instead of to Prussia) and territorial disputes between the French and the Dutch.
The people of Chatham wanted us to stay, as we paid for food and didn't harass the woman. And it was the first time, the Dutch used their Corps Marines (to destroy the chain).
I'm Dutch and I consider this as much a Dutch Sea shanty, despite it being an English one. However, this song did not help the Dutch maintain dominance at sea, as England made the necessary changes after their sailors started singing it. That being said, I think it's a great sea shanty
@@AngloWelshProductions As 1st of August is almost here(Siege of Derry comemoration day) I suggest that you upload the song "Glory Glory Apprentice Boys" or the song "Fair Londonderry".It's just a suggestion though.
Wales had/has, been de-facto part of England since 1282... yet only been unified by an act of parliament (English parliament) since 1536... then it was officially merged with England proper by another act of parliament (English parliament) since 1542. Both acts of parliament have been repealed in full since at lest the late 90s... though in saying this, its had no affect, besides Wales having a devolved assembly and ministers, which if voter turnout is any thing to go by, they don't care for nor care to abolish it.
@@GigachadicusMaximus Only S. Africa got stolen, after which the Bri'ish used concentration camps against our cousins there, the Boers. You fancy that? Britain suits the world better when divided. Liberty a Scotland Liberty a Ireland Liberty a Wales Now get your angloid ass outta here, or we fare to Chatham at dawn!
It was originally a poem written by Rudyard Kipling in 1911 and turned in a song by the Folk Singer Peter Bellamy in 1982 , this is the 2nd more up tempo version he recorded in 1989.
@@danny9905 Yes, Unless Kipling was inspired by some song that is now forgotten, If you do like it I highly recommend Bellamy's work if you don't know it he put a lot of Kipling's poems to music as well as other songs of old England
@@alittlebitofhistory thank you for the information, I will look it up. I love learning about British history, and I am seriously considering moving to the United Kingdom. I don’t know if it is going to be northern England or perhaps Ireland, but I love your countries and culture. To me, it looks like you British kept your culture better than we Dutch did. And to be honest, I think the Netherlands is getting way to full and busy. I love the Dutch countryside where I reside now, but even there, it’s getting busier daily. Kind regards from the other side of the North Sea!
It’s not an Anglo-Dutch war song. The song laments the fact that the English, because of hubris and indolence, are weak and vulnerable to attack- and this the Dutchmen knew. I’m not sure it’s authentic though, it reads like the poem of the same name by Kipling.
I doubt any of the Dutch really give a shit. Nor do the English give a shit about the raid on the Medway. No one cares about any of it except for some 15 year old history buffs arguing only. Go to any pub in the UK or the NL and see what Dutchmen and Englishmen truly think of each other.
@@JustinRM20 my point is that most English haven’t even heard of this “battle”. The Dutch go on and on about it though. Just look through this comment section.
@@commando4481 Because it’s a video about the Raid on the Medway, of course they mention it. What’d you expect? And besides that, I see plenty of English men coping too.
I'm from Medway (born in Chatham, lived most of my life in Gillingham)
Honestly: I respect the Dutch for trying to burn Chatham to the ground. It would have improved the place considerably.
It wasnt rally trying to burn chatham down more like burning the ships that were docked there
Lol
Being from East Kent, my condolences for being from Medway
Most English citizens at the time were rather (pleasantly) surprised that the Dutch didn't burn down or pillage, and restricted themselves to military targets.
If only the English showed us the same respect ; )
yh but they should of probably burned down the rest of medway ngl
It gets better: the chap that broke the chain ? Jan van Brakel ? He had a ship named after him that served in the Royal Netherlands Navy-in exile during WW2. On 14 December 1941, the ship was tasked with protecting the Chatham port area, and it accidentally hit and damaged one of the buoys protecting the harbour mouth.
Out went the signal to the navy station: "Van Brakel damages port defence Medway". Not even a minute later, a signal came back: "What ? Again ?"
True story. This actually happened.
Very funny story. Must have been a provider of a mild chuckle for both the English and Dutch admiralty folks.
@@kaiserredgamer8943 Probably Lol.
Correct . the Same van Brakel would become the Commander of a combined dutch /british fleet during the period that the Prinse of orange was king in england.
Indeed we knew.
If I may say so, God bless the Dutch, we've had a few punch ups here and there but, really it was just sibling rivalry to us two, always there when we needed you against the French and Spaniards! Plus our beloved William of Orange come over here and defended our Constitutional Monarchy in 1688-90 in the wars against King James and he's fenians. God save the Dutch, one of our best allies and rivals we've had the honour of knowing nothing but deep respect for the Dutch 🇬🇧 🇳🇱
Oof
Why did you guys change the orange for red on your flag?
@@thedrugdealerinthehomedepotThere is debate over the exact causes but generally speaking the orange was fazed out by the reducing support for the royal family (where the orange came from). It started getting replaced with red by the republicans before being made offical in the 1700s.
@@thedrugdealerinthehomedepot
The theory I heard is that the orange dye would turn red in the sun & salt on the sea-going ships. Being penny-saving and smart business men, the merchants decided to use red-white-blue for their ship-flags instead of constantly buying new flags.
As merchant ships were among the primary places where the Dutch flag was used, that eventually just became the standard flag
We still have the stern piece of the ship "HMS Royal Charles' in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. We seized the ship from the Medway to show the English they weren't invincible on their island.
Mainlanders have an obsession with our island.
@@gammonsandwich1756 oh no worries, its not in the museum anymore, we gave it back, we dont need it ;)
@@lazaran3899 What are you talking about?
@@gammonsandwich1756 Can you blame us? We imagine having a sea around us as a moat, so we can just chill. Even if the French and the Germans feel that urge to kill eachother again, as happens from time to time. It's like a nice warm blanket. And we all know the monsters can't get to you if you hide under your blanket. That's just basic science.
We literally had to liberate and feed your nation in world war 2. And take control of Indonesia for a while. We also had the final say in the Anglo-dutch wars ;).
This song is actually rather sad. The lament of sailors, soldiers, and marines seeing their leadership let them waste away while they themselves gorge and indulge in every vice after the foe have come and laid them to waste. Glad that Britain and the Netherlands later mended things. Hope horrid war never graces Europe again, sans the current Russo-Ukraine War. Love from America. 🇺🇲❤🏴/🇬🇧❤🇳🇱
I don't know, as a Dutchman this makes me feel rather good 🙂
Yeah war is always sad, but I have little sympathy for these sailors. The same men murdered many civilians like the Terschelling massacre. They burned the women and children alive for being Dutch. Just like you treated the Irish, Scottish, Indians, Africans, Native Americans, etc.
No mercy for the merciless💯
@@vatsal7640 Yeah, I would understand Indonesians not feeling sadness for the Dutch marines who died against the Japanese. Which the Indonesians did; they even murdered many Dutch civilians when they had the chance after the ‘politional actions’ by the Dutch. These ‘actions’ were murdering and raping rebels, so that’s why the Indonesians (rebels) took revenge. Our government also fucked over the Moluccan people badly. But I should not be held responsible for the actions of my countries government, let alone the actions of governments in the past.
@@danny9905 The Dutch deserved it
@@danny9905the kettle is calling the pot black
Interesting song mate :)
Long live the Kingdom 🏴!!!
the point of this poem/song is applicable to so many governments/rulers in so many different times, its great
I saw this battle at the film Michiel de Ruyter (or Admiral (2015)).
Rudyard Kipling was the author, for anyone curious, of the poem. I assume these guys made it into a song
Thank you.
This song hits harder than the Dutch canon rounds fired at the Royal navy
But it doesnt hit as hard as Royal navy cannons at Lowestoft and Camperdown 😃
@@fuop8718 Lowestoft got rectified with the Four Days' battle. And Texel just sealed the deal for the Anglo-Dutch rivalry.
Camperdown was also not as easy a victory for you guys, being costlier than Trafalgar when applied to the same scale ;)
@@halorecon95fourth anglo-dutch war : 🤫🤫🤫🤫
@@lollius88 Honestly shouldn't count as an Anglo-Dutch war. I'll give it to you, the British thoroughly trounced us there. But the first 3 Anglo-Dutch wars happened within the same generation, the "4th" happened a century after the last one.
@@halorecon95 Yes, but it was still a war between the Angles and the Dutch.
Thus an Anglo-Dutch war.
Now we can rest easy, having the last laugh, and building the largest empire the world had ever seen 😌
As a side note, the British casualties at Trafalgar was 10x smaller than that of the Allies, so that comparison means nothing.
The Times When The Dutch Sailed up Towards London And Was Flexing their muscles
more like the anoying kid that keeps poking the parrents and they take away its toys .
lol holland was a battlefield for england france and prussia😂
@@fuop8718 england are you stupid it was a grave yard for them ,no invasion ever happend by the brits the ones that landed where all killed . prussia was never an enemy of the dutch or had any wars with them indact the prusian kings sister was the wife of willem of orange .
France , only invaded Holland ones . and got slaugterd . and only came to power for a short time due to a coupe .
Now go back to your teletubies and change your diaper . As your to young to read actual history .
@@fuop8718 Not really, I think you are thinking of Belgium
And still failed to successfully invade
In 1667 the dutch and english where at war, by 1689 (22 years later) King James II was removed from the English throne and was replaced by a Dutchman. the Stewart kings of england proved themselves unworthy to rule. i imagine the feasting of Charles II, while his men where torn apart (as detailed in this song) greatly contributed to the fall of the Stewart dynasty.
The Stuarts were good in making disastrous choices
Also genociding the Protestant population of Britain probably didn't help much.
That Dutchman was the son of the prince of orange but both his mother and wife where of the house of Stewart.
@@010Jordi He was the Prince of Orange, from 1650 to 1702. But it does not refer to the Netherlands. It refers to the sovereign Principality of Orange, what is around Avignon in France.
@@KGI_KlikoNL I'm not exactly sure of the timeline, but during the war of Spanish succession the title and ownership of Orange were also on the line, at the treaty of Utrecht, with William III of Orange childless, it was decided to allow the Dutch to keep the title "prince of Orange" since it was extremely popular, but Orange itself would be given to Louis XIV while the Dutch would get some of upper guelre territory under french control. This settled both Dutch succession (going to Friso, instead of to Prussia) and territorial disputes between the French and the Dutch.
If it ain’t Dutch, it ain’t worth much!
The people of Chatham wanted us to stay, as we paid for food and didn't harass the woman. And it was the first time, the Dutch used their Corps Marines (to destroy the chain).
Lovely song. Thanks for uploading.
I'm Dutch and I consider this as much a Dutch Sea shanty, despite it being an English one. However, this song did not help the Dutch maintain dominance at sea, as England made the necessary changes after their sailors started singing it. That being said, I think it's a great sea shanty
POV: You find a new shanty in AC Black Flag
A terrible defeat, and it would never happen again.
Doubtful.
It was the very last time that a foreign military force set foot on British soil...
It happened again in 1689 when Wilhelm III. became King of Britain...
@@leonaessens4399 It happened again in 1689 when Wilhelm III. became King of Britain...
@@xornxenophon3652 bro was invited in and made king by parliament what are you talking about lol
I went to upnor castle yesterday
Can I make a suggestion?
alright
@@AngloWelshProductions As 1st of August is almost here(Siege of Derry comemoration day) I suggest that you upload the song "Glory Glory Apprentice Boys" or the song "Fair Londonderry".It's just a suggestion though.
Gosh. We knew a lot at the time.
Epic
anyone notice that wales is part of england too?
Accurate for the time,
Scotland and England united for the united kingdom, but wales had been conquered before that by the english.
Wales had/has, been de-facto part of England since 1282... yet only been unified by an act of parliament (English parliament) since 1536... then it was officially merged with England proper by another act of parliament (English parliament) since 1542.
Both acts of parliament have been repealed in full since at lest the late 90s... though in saying this, its had no affect, besides Wales having a devolved assembly and ministers, which if voter turnout is any thing to go by, they don't care for nor care to abolish it.
That time when the Dutch bombed the London Harbor and took the crown ship from the imperial british navy.
@@GigachadicusMaximus Only S. Africa got stolen, after which the Bri'ish used concentration camps against our cousins there, the Boers. You fancy that?
Britain suits the world better when divided.
Liberty a Scotland
Liberty a Ireland
Liberty a Wales
Now get your angloid ass outta here, or we fare to Chatham at dawn!
@@draphotube4315 yeah we did lol so what you lost IK OOOK
We always know🫵🇳🇱😈💪
Proud to be ENGLISH 🏴🏴🇬🇧
Hebzucht leeft in Engeland, te bedonderd om een taal te leren 2:48
@@hanshangoor2285 says the ones whose daughters work in red light districts
@@thebasedspectre3048and it's the English men who visit those districts the most
@@jakubzov yeah Dutch women are hot
Try to find a Dutch women working in the red lights district they are less than 1% it's all forgners
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much ! 🤣
when the song was composed ?
It was originally a poem written by Rudyard Kipling in 1911 and turned in a song by the Folk Singer Peter Bellamy in 1982 , this is the 2nd more up tempo version he recorded in 1989.
@@alittlebitofhistory wow, so this song isn’t as old as the wars itself? It’s quite modern actually hahah, more like a replica of an old song.
@@danny9905 Yes, Unless Kipling was inspired by some song that is now forgotten, If you do like it I highly recommend Bellamy's work if you don't know it he put a lot of Kipling's poems to music as well as other songs of old England
@@alittlebitofhistory thank you for the information, I will look it up. I love learning about British history, and I am seriously considering moving to the United Kingdom. I don’t know if it is going to be northern England or perhaps Ireland, but I love your countries and culture. To me, it looks like you British kept your culture better than we Dutch did. And to be honest, I think the Netherlands is getting way to full and busy. I love the Dutch countryside where I reside now, but even there, it’s getting busier daily. Kind regards from the other side of the North Sea!
Some things never change.
It’s not an Anglo-Dutch war song. The song laments the fact that the English, because of hubris and indolence, are weak and vulnerable to attack- and this the Dutchmen knew. I’m not sure it’s authentic though, it reads like the poem of the same name by Kipling.
It's exactly that poem
Feels weird seeing wales apart of England in the map on this video lmao
It is historical accurate.
Long Live England Long Live Wales God Save England God save Wales 🏴🏴
The British military is still notoriously the worst in the G7 at logistics specifically & getting the right kit to where it needs to be.
2nd worst* Germany can't even supply ammunition to its own troops at home.
@@halorecon95 : They probably shipped the ammunition by train.
What does this have to do with the video lmao
Ja dat wisten we..
Anglo saxan says No surrender.
You do realize that the angles and saksens are danes and east dutch /and west german tribes .
Should have kept the Commonwealth and the Lord Protector.
España tambien subio el Thamesis
Nice but done much better by Tundra.
Link?
Why are the Dutch so obsessed with one victory in 1667? Id love to see them mention how we liberated them from Nazi occupation in ww2.
I doubt any of the Dutch really give a shit. Nor do the English give a shit about the raid on the Medway. No one cares about any of it except for some 15 year old history buffs arguing only. Go to any pub in the UK or the NL and see what Dutchmen and Englishmen truly think of each other.
@@JustinRM20 my point is that most English haven’t even heard of this “battle”. The Dutch go on and on about it though. Just look through this comment section.
@@commando4481 Because it’s a video about the Raid on the Medway, of course they mention it. What’d you expect? And besides that, I see plenty of English men coping too.
@@JustinRM20 Why are you so interested? Yanks always getting involved when nobody had even asked.
@@commando4481 I’m not a yank, but from England. You’re crying about the Dutch on a song about their raid.
Smile there's only 17 million dutch people left
18, since the day before yesterday.
That's more than there's ever been.
This song gave me a ear infection
You just had a brain infection that spread out wards it was not the song