Just an insight from my opinion, as I believe many of my students feel I'm rolling in it. Most instructors don't do this job for the money. I enjoy meeting new students and seeing them develop. I like the flexibility the job brings. The only point I would add is your calculations were based on 12months. Whereas, if you were taking lets say 2 weeks off at Christmas. You wanted a summer holiday ( personally I take a late holiday to avoid the busy summer period ) then you want the Bank Holidays and you also need to keep up with that CPD. Lets not forget the days sick, and occasionally its unlikely to have students doing lessons every day every week. Its likely you actually only work full time around 10 months of the year.
You're absolutely right Keith. My car's recently just broken down. I have to take 2 weeks off for that. I went on holiday for 2 weeks. You're absolutely right you wouldn't work 52 weeks a year so the calculations are slightly off.
So based on the annual net, Geoff could pop down to Aldi and buy 42,000 packs of "Mini Chew Dog Bones - Chicken", which has 4 treats in a pack. So that's 168,000 treats annually for Geoff, which is 460 treats per day and an extra couple at the weekends so he has something to work towards. What a life :)
If you are talking about if there is the work then yes no problem in my area . Actually doing 45 hours of lessons though Is very hard. I can't do much more than 30 because it's tiring and takes around half hour between lessons etc
Im in the process of saving for my own car with dual controls (i have my own personal car, Red have contscted me to train me for i think its roughly £1000, However i will most likely do driving instructing part time to begin with simply becsuse of adult life (bills and kids) 😂 how difficult is it to get instrucitibg off the ground?
I’m getting the incline to start training to be an instructor. Absolutely sick of my job. Need to take the dive though...first step seems to be the hardest.
I've really enjoyed watching your channel. I've been thinking about becoming an instructor for a year now...but I really don't want to be part of a franchise. So I know know that the theory and hazard perception I can take myself. Then would I need training with an instructor...It would help me to see a list of sorts of the steps to take as everywhere I look they're pushing franchises and I can't find how do it it for yourself 🤣 any help would be much appreciated.
Hey Rachel I'll try and put a video together but it really depends on the area you see. But here's a general idea. 1. Book and pass theory. 2. Book part 2 advanced driving test, then book lessons with a driving instructor about 10 hours depending on your confidence of being a good safe driver. Ideally this would be a driving instructor training but in reality it doesn't matter. Then sit and pass part 2. 3. You can do this at any point, the earlier the better really. Find a small driving instructor training school or an independent driving instructor training. Search Google, join all the ADI, PDI Facebook groups in your area and ask the question who trains driving instructors round here? 4. Once you pass part 2 you can either go pink badge and charge for lessons or do free lessons. I'd advice go pink because you need lots of practice and it gets expensive. To go pink badge you have to have 40 hours training in driving instruction so you need to find someone that will do this with you. Companies like pass and go will first lock you into a 2-4 year contract while at the same time charge you a weekly franchise fee that they sell as to cover your training. My option would be to find someone that will sponsor you and charge you for each individual lesson. Yes it will still be expensive but no weekly franchise rubbish and normally no long term contract. They might ask you to stay with them for a year but that's fair if they spend all that time training you and supporting you. That's a general idea I will try to make a solid video for you.
Very helpful thanks! Would you recommend paying a driving school (AA/BSM, Drive, Bill Plant, etc) to do the course, do a temporary Franchise with them while on PDI to gain experience, pass part 3 and then go it alone rather than agreeing to an ADI Franchise? Also Drive guarantees you'll pass and become an ADI within the 3 attempts or they'll refund the course cost. Any thoughts?
Hey Nick glad its helped and some great questions! First of all ignore those "guaranteed" pass or full refund things. They are a massive con! If you ask for the terms and conditions you will find that no one has ever managed to get a refund because there are that many hoops to jump through you would never get the money back. With regards to Franchise etc yes. If you are training with one of the big companies then try get as short a contract as possible then go at it alone. Even better train with a 1 man/women band or very small company as they will take far better care of you!
@@JoshRamwell Thanks for your quick reply. Drive told me that although the UK average pass rate is 33%, theirs is over 60% on the 1st attempt. Of the 40% that fail on the 1st attempt, those that try again overwhelmingly pass but a small number do fail and take the test for a 3rd time. Apparently only 2% of people fail 3 times so that's why they can afford to refund the fees to those people. I'm going to post something else in a few minutes on your video about becoming an instructor for you to think about. Hope you like maths :D
I've decided to avoid Drive after reading several comments and doing more research into the terms. Now I'm trying to decide which ORDIT instructor to go with. :)
Hi josh, I’m thinking about becoming a driving instructor. I’m a private hire driver and was wondering. Do I need to do the advanced driving test again ?
hello im thinking about becoming a driving instructor, I currently work 4/5 days a week including a Sunday every week for a company as an hgv driver I usually work 12 hour shifts there abouts at around 15 quid an hour. I just want too know how much better is it too work 9 hour days at Monday to Friday and if the money is worth it. you said you earn approximately 30k a year I earn around 24k also what I'd the difference in working for a franchise? cheers
Hi Thomas great questions. 1 I generally work 9 till 4pm which is 3 2 hour lesson at £70 each. 2. I love the job so it's worth it for me. If you hated the job then probably not. If you over work you might not enjoy it so much because you are dealing with people who are paying for a service so you have to keep the level of service top notch every time. If you join a franchise they should do some of the leg work finding pupils for you but that will likely cost anywhere between £200 -£1000 per month depending on if you take a car with it.
@@JoshRamwell would you suggest to lease a car in a contract or buy a car and service it regularly. also did you start out on your own or under a franchise after passing your instructor course
Hi Josh, Great video I'm looking at becoming a driving instructor but I'm in two minds about it. Isn't the market flooded with driving instructors and how old does the car have to be
Hey Mauro. The market isn't flooded where I am my friend. If it was every manual driving instructor would not be fully booked. The car age does not matter as long as its road worthy with no warning lights on the dash. It also cannot be a convertible. Apart from that you are good to go with any.
Try find a smaller driving school not a big company. You will have a far better experience. Big company's are often at the top of Google search because they pay the most for advertising. Not for teaching quality
Hello Josh, I’m about to do my Part 3 training with Bill Plant. I’m having 2nd thoughts about taking out their franchise which is over £200 per week. At the moment I work for dpd for 4 days a week so I’m thinking of starting my own driving school during the other 3 days. I found a company that will charge me £333+ per month for a dual control car, what do you think, so I can start my school plus work for dpd until I’m established, what do you think 🤔?
Hey Antoine, congrats on getting that far. I personally wouldn't recommend joining a big franchise with a car. But thats easy for me to say as I've been doing it a while. Best advice I can give is join the discord and have a chat with some of the other pdis. They will give you lots of opinions. Here's the link discord.gg/XUxj9STK5E
Great video. Do you have any information on how to update the disclosure on the dsa adi portal. I had applied to become an adi before but never finished the training. I want to start again and have a new disclosure but can't seem to update it on the portal. An information would be helpful thanks.
@@JoshRamwell I’m not even qualified yet, but I couldn’t think of anything worse than being in a car, with someone who’s never driven before, and not having dual controls! The words death wish spring to mind 😂😂😂
Just an insight from my opinion, as I believe many of my students feel I'm rolling in it. Most instructors don't do this job for the money. I enjoy meeting new students and seeing them develop. I like the flexibility the job brings.
The only point I would add is your calculations were based on 12months. Whereas, if you were taking lets say 2 weeks off at Christmas. You wanted a summer holiday ( personally I take a late holiday to avoid the busy summer period ) then you want the Bank Holidays and you also need to keep up with that CPD. Lets not forget the days sick, and occasionally its unlikely to have students doing lessons every day every week. Its likely you actually only work full time around 10 months of the year.
You're absolutely right Keith. My car's recently just broken down. I have to take 2 weeks off for that. I went on holiday for 2 weeks. You're absolutely right you wouldn't work 52 weeks a year so the calculations are slightly off.
So based on the annual net, Geoff could pop down to Aldi and buy 42,000 packs of "Mini Chew Dog Bones - Chicken", which has 4 treats in a pack. So that's 168,000 treats annually for Geoff, which is 460 treats per day and an extra couple at the weekends so he has something to work towards. What a life :)
Haha that is correct
Thank you for sharing I found this very useful, particularly the comparison between going it alone or franchise model.
Your welcome Daniel if your after any more info let me know.
Josh Thanks for that great video ad full of energy
Great advise mate keep up the good work
Thank you David
Iv just started my training and have my part 1 on the 8th of November.
Iv found your videos very helpful thank you.
Thanks Brenda that's fantastic news. Good luck with the part 1
Hi Bren, I am on going to give exam next week. What material did you use for Part 1?
Sounds great it's something I was considering doing great video
Hey Josh, good stuff. How realistic it is these days to do 45h in a week though?
If you are talking about if there is the work then yes no problem in my area . Actually doing 45 hours of lessons though Is very hard. I can't do much more than 30 because it's tiring and takes around half hour between lessons etc
good information cheers
Im in the process of saving for my own car with dual controls (i have my own personal car,
Red have contscted me to train me for i think its roughly £1000,
However i will most likely do driving instructing part time to begin with simply becsuse of adult life (bills and kids) 😂 how difficult is it to get instrucitibg off the ground?
I’m getting the incline to start training to be an instructor. Absolutely sick of my job.
Need to take the dive though...first step seems to be the hardest.
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I've really enjoyed watching your channel. I've been thinking about becoming an instructor for a year now...but I really don't want to be part of a franchise.
So I know know that the theory and hazard perception I can take myself. Then would I need training with an instructor...It would help me to see a list of sorts of the steps to take as everywhere I look they're pushing franchises and I can't find how do it it for yourself 🤣 any help would be much appreciated.
Hey Rachel I'll try and put a video together but it really depends on the area you see. But here's a general idea.
1. Book and pass theory.
2. Book part 2 advanced driving test, then book lessons with a driving instructor about 10 hours depending on your confidence of being a good safe driver. Ideally this would be a driving instructor training but in reality it doesn't matter. Then sit and pass part 2.
3. You can do this at any point, the earlier the better really. Find a small driving instructor training school or an independent driving instructor training. Search Google, join all the ADI, PDI Facebook groups in your area and ask the question who trains driving instructors round here?
4. Once you pass part 2 you can either go pink badge and charge for lessons or do free lessons. I'd advice go pink because you need lots of practice and it gets expensive. To go pink badge you have to have 40 hours training in driving instruction so you need to find someone that will do this with you.
Companies like pass and go will first lock you into a 2-4 year contract while at the same time charge you a weekly franchise fee that they sell as to cover your training. My option would be to find someone that will sponsor you and charge you for each individual lesson. Yes it will still be expensive but no weekly franchise rubbish and normally no long term contract. They might ask you to stay with them for a year but that's fair if they spend all that time training you and supporting you. That's a general idea I will try to make a solid video for you.
Very helpful thanks! Would you recommend paying a driving school (AA/BSM, Drive, Bill Plant, etc) to do the course, do a temporary Franchise with them while on PDI to gain experience, pass part 3 and then go it alone rather than agreeing to an ADI Franchise?
Also Drive guarantees you'll pass and become an ADI within the 3 attempts or they'll refund the course cost. Any thoughts?
Hey Nick glad its helped and some great questions! First of all ignore those "guaranteed" pass or full refund things. They are a massive con! If you ask for the terms and conditions you will find that no one has ever managed to get a refund because there are that many hoops to jump through you would never get the money back. With regards to Franchise etc yes. If you are training with one of the big companies then try get as short a contract as possible then go at it alone. Even better train with a 1 man/women band or very small company as they will take far better care of you!
@@JoshRamwell Thanks for your quick reply. Drive told me that although the UK average pass rate is 33%, theirs is over 60% on the 1st attempt. Of the 40% that fail on the 1st attempt, those that try again overwhelmingly pass but a small number do fail and take the test for a 3rd time. Apparently only 2% of people fail 3 times so that's why they can afford to refund the fees to those people.
I'm going to post something else in a few minutes on your video about becoming an instructor for you to think about. Hope you like maths :D
I've decided to avoid Drive after reading several comments and doing more research into the terms. Now I'm trying to decide which ORDIT instructor to go with. :)
@@JoshRamwell Hi Josh, just found your channel and its got value. Please give ideas of what very small companies you would suggest.
Many thanks
Hi josh, I’m thinking about becoming a driving instructor. I’m a private hire driver and was wondering. Do I need to do the advanced driving test again ?
If it's not the Adi part 2 they you have already done then yes unfortunately.😭
Hi Josh hope you are well just a wee message but do you have the link to the theory test for the drvining instructor app mate
Hey Ian I'm sorry Ian I don't have it to hand. If you join the discord though one of the pdis there will have a link for you for sure.
hello im thinking about becoming a driving instructor, I currently work 4/5 days a week including a Sunday every week for a company as an hgv driver I usually work 12 hour shifts there abouts at around 15 quid an hour.
I just want too know how much better is it too work 9 hour days at Monday to Friday and if the money is worth it. you said you earn approximately 30k a year I earn around 24k
also what I'd the difference in working for a franchise?
cheers
Hi Thomas great questions. 1
I generally work 9 till 4pm which is 3 2 hour lesson at £70 each. 2. I love the job so it's worth it for me. If you hated the job then probably not. If you over work you might not enjoy it so much because you are dealing with people who are paying for a service so you have to keep the level of service top notch every time. If you join a franchise they should do some of the leg work finding pupils for you but that will likely cost anywhere between £200 -£1000 per month depending on if you take a car with it.
@@JoshRamwell would you suggest to lease a car in a contract or buy a car and service it regularly.
also did you start out on your own or under a franchise after passing your instructor course
I passed my driving test just 3 months ago i want to be a driving instructor how long i have to wait to apply for driving instructor
Hi Josh, Great video I'm looking at becoming a driving instructor but I'm in two minds about it. Isn't the market flooded with driving instructors and how old does the car have to be
Hey Mauro. The market isn't flooded where I am my friend. If it was every manual driving instructor would not be fully booked. The car age does not matter as long as its road worthy with no warning lights on the dash. It also cannot be a convertible. Apart from that you are good to go with any.
@@JoshRamwell thank you very much for that Josh I just need to see who to do my course with 😊
Try find a smaller driving school not a big company. You will have a far better experience. Big company's are often at the top of Google search because they pay the most for advertising. Not for teaching quality
@@JoshRamwell I was thinking of going with the AA as they are world renowned or is that irrelevant
How many years do i have to have my drivers instructor license before I start a school? Thanks in advance
Hey Fly I started my own driving school the day I passed my adi driving test. So can you 😁🚘🙌
Hello Josh, I’m about to do my Part 3 training with Bill Plant. I’m having 2nd thoughts about taking out their franchise which is over £200 per week.
At the moment I work for dpd for 4 days a week so I’m thinking of starting my own driving school during the other 3 days.
I found a company that will charge me £333+ per month for a dual control car, what do you think, so I can start my school plus work for dpd until I’m established, what do you think 🤔?
Hey Antoine, congrats on getting that far. I personally wouldn't recommend joining a big franchise with a car. But thats easy for me to say as I've been doing it a while. Best advice I can give is join the discord and have a chat with some of the other pdis. They will give you lots of opinions. Here's the link discord.gg/XUxj9STK5E
Could you share the name of the company you found? I'm thinking of going with Bill Plant but you're right. £229 or week is a LOT of money to pay out 🥴
@@dawnb8906 hello Dawn I’ve just seen your message, it’s actually Bill Plant!!!
@@captscarlet17 I think Dawn was asking what the company was that you found for the dual controls car.
Great video. Do you have any information on how to update the disclosure on the dsa adi portal. I had applied to become an adi before but never finished the training. I want to start again and have a new disclosure but can't seem to update it on the portal. An information would be helpful thanks.
I'm sorry healthy life I'm not sure how to update the disclosure on the dsa website. Have you tried contact about it? I'll look into it.
@@JoshRamwell I tried a few weeks ago with no luck. Not sure if it's because of lockdown. Couldn't get anyone on the phone
Do the Cars need to be dual controlled?
No not at all but you will probably scare yourself half to death trying to teach without duel controls. I know I did😱😂
@@JoshRamwell I’m not even qualified yet, but I couldn’t think of anything worse than being in a car, with someone who’s never driven before, and not having dual controls! The words death wish spring to mind 😂😂😂
@@jonnygti yep it was damn scary😅
Bro I'm working as a chief driving instructor in India is there any possibility to get job there?
I have no idea😂
most of the learners are teenagers. they are unlikely to use facebook.
You prepared to sponsor to help someone get their pink license?
Hi Terry are you in the Stoke on Trent area?
@@JoshRamwell I’m In Rugeley so not far at all.