I got this case, one of most easy to build in anything and looks good, has a lot of inside space without being too big outside and very good airflow. I would say it's amazing a part from small things,but not important and at this price u cannot expect everything to be perfect i guess.
Finally, A video that actually shows the screws for the temper glass for this case... i've been searching everywhere and no one bothered to show them. I lost mine and don't know which to get to replace them. Thumbs up
Thank you so much. i have been wanting to buy this case for a while but couldn't find many reviews. so this really helped me have more confidence for my purchase.
I'm new to this channel after having just discovered it 1 video ago this morning & I am enjoying it. I can't imagine how much it must cost to get up and running on a channel like this. This guy has so much gear with all the lighting, mics etc. Not to mention the time it must take to edit all the cuts together with the voice over. I definitely would not have the patience to do that. So kudos to you and to all tech reviewers who do this. Good luck in the future on the channel. I'll keep watching. EDIT: just spied that flexible screwdriver you use at 4:47. very handy.
I really appreciate this, a thorough understanding and appreciation of the process and requirements to produce these videos. To expand a little on it, the time taken for each video is a fair amount, that's kind of unavoidable. But the cost of creating them like the lighting, camera, etc. gets acquired over time, so it's not as painful as it might seem initially, and the revenue of the channel creates is slowly paying them off. In the future when the channel is a little more self sustaining, upgrades won't be at the cost of my bank balance, but supported by the revenue of the channel. That'll be the golden milestone and one to look forward to (hopefully). Thanks for checking out the channel and sticking around, I really appreciate it!!!
love your videos about computer cabinets. There is a detailed section for cable management, but A lot of reviewers don't focus on it. Keep up the good work 👍
@@AVTechy could you answer this question? I'm planning on getting this case but the CPU cooler I got is the Cryorig R1 Universal, it is a behemoth of a cooler 168mm tall The current case I got is the Thermaltake Chaser MK I its dimension 22.40" x 9.30" x 22.90" Now If I'm to judge on the base of dimensions alone this case in the amazon description is 22.52 x 11.42 x 22.44, so it should have more than enough space right? I'm confused as you said the CPU clearance is 165mm And I'm scared of buying this case and then falling short just by a couple of mm of CPU clearance
Nice vid! I like how the case looks, and objectively speaking it stands out from the rest. I only wish the top filter rested inside an indent like on the CM MB311L. Surprised it's not more expensive, thought they'd charge a premium for etched glass and zigzaggy mesh. You know what method of attaching panels we haven't seen yet? Drawbars, the type they used to lock castle doors during medieval sieges. You won't need hinges or screws or drill into tempered glass, and you can put shapes and images on it and everything.
Since you are doing incredibly long and detailed videos and reviews, and you´re not just doing unboxings and call them reviews, im gonna share my experience since you´re most likely to be interested and maybe show it on camera or put it to the test. This is exclusively about air cooling. Depending on the air cooler, the fan or fans on it, might not have sufficient power to draw the needed volume of air from their surroundings to saturate the cooler, or have just about enough. In a case with exceptionally good airflow, like a mesh case, what happens is that you artificially expand the area from where the fans of the cooler move air with the front fans of the case, so the air cooler depending on its size and the heat to dissipate, will experience a very hard drop in scaling or will experience very hard diminishing returns if you will, much before you reach the max rpm on the fans. For example: I have a r5 2600 at 1.41v and 4.2ghz +nh-15+meshify C, with 2x140mm sw3 and 1x120mm sw3 in front of the case. The foam filter in the mesh front panel is removed. At 140w+ there´s no difference between 1 and 2 fans. None at all. Further more, dropping front case fans and cooler fan to 1100rpm, only gets 2ºC wormer, from 72ºC to 74ºC, but drastically reduces noise. Dropping to 800rpm, it gets another 2ºC wormer, from 74 to 76. The conclusion is basically that after 800rpm, the diminishing returns hit very hard, at 140w load and lower. Using tape to simulate a define C, temperatures get a lot worst. 17ºC difference at 800rpm. But that´s not the only change. Now temperatures improvement scales much more with more RPM, getting 5ºC improvement at 1100rpm, from 93ºC to 88ºC and another 3,5ºC at max rpm, from 88ºC to 84/85ºC, so the difference reduces to 12-13ºC. However the more you drop RPM the more increases the difference in temperature. These paterns are present in GN testing charts aswell prnt.sc/uptzq2 I wrote this in 2 of your videos comment sections, to make sure you see it. Not intended for spam. Sorry if it bothers you.
It seems to be a pretty popular way for case makers to save money these days. Same exact deal with my MB311L, but honestly I don't really care. Yeah it can come off any time you handle the PC, so kind of annoying. It's just not often that I ever move my case though. It gets a spray of compressed air once in a while, that's about it.
Unless you need to, no. It's not so good you need to rush out and change your case. If you need a new case, sure it's an option, but I wouldn't go out and get something different unless you need to for some reason. Just my opinion though.
This video is so amazing and detailed! One question I have is if I put a 240mm AIO radiator on the top, will the RAM for my Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard still fit? I saw a review on Amazon saying that it doesn't but a lot of other people don't seem to have a problem.
Haha, thanks very much :) The problem is I don't actually make that many videos. I need to optimise this whole process a lot more to make the most the time I have available to do it...
Hey there, Amazing video, truly informative and I think one of the best around regarding this case I wanted to know your opinion cause I don't know what to buy for my midrange system (around 1000$) where I'm willing to spend between 70 and 100$ max for the case: Currently trying to choose between the Corsair 275r airflow, NZXT h510, the new Antec DF600 flux and obviously the case of the video. Which one would you recommend? Considering that I wouldn't be pushing all that often the PC to the limit Thanks
Suggestion for builds: some high TDP stuff. Consider that not everyone runs a 65 Watts R5-3600 with a midrange GPU which is relatively easy to cool. There are lots of people sporting high TDP builds like TR/i7/i9 combined with beefy GPUs like the 3080/3090 which can easily suck 600W+ from the wall. Of that 99% is transformed into heat that ends up in the case and needs to be removed. I feel like that's where the high airflow cases can separate themselves from the 'fashion' cases. Those kind of parts can be pricey, but since it is about the heat output and not the system performance you can probably get away with an AMD space heater CPU (FX?) or older Intel Xeon parts which go relatively cheap.
glad you happened to review aerocool case, that has some 33cfm fans and still performs better than this. I have a case with 33cfm fans, almost same shape of aero one. Thought of giving it up and going for this case. Hoping of better cooling with better build quality... Guess money is better spent on fans alone. Also good luck on the channel.
I don't think there's a clear better fan there. Different speeds, airflow and noise levels. To understand how they compare you'd need to test them against each other. Both sets of fans are plenty for 99% of people needs IMO, don't fall into the trap of comparing on set if numbers and making a conclusion. Also think how each manufacturer comes to those numbers, it's highly doubtful they're using the same testing methods.
Either get a board with the correct amount of ports you need, or get a USB hub to make up for any extra ports you need. They're pretty cheap and you can find one to put on your desk for easy access, and many have different inputs like SD, Micro SD, etc, if you're offloading footage it files from other gear.
tbh i’m very happy with this case i bought it for my first pc build and temperatures are great in here except the psu dust filter is a tad wimpy lmao but i just slapped three more fans in there and it looks amazing with the geometric designs. the only thing i HATE is that i have to clean the front panel like every 2-3 weeks but i guess that’s what you get for having a ton of airflow
It looks like it has the densest mesh filter in 1 filter category, almost like removable filter in Corsair 4000D airflow. I am actually happy that case like that exists.
will this case have enough clearence for a NH-D15 chromax.Black? In the video, it says CPU cooler clearence is 165mm, but the cooler is 165.1 mm. I know it seems selfe explanatory I was just wondering what yall thought
4:03 so the aio I wanna use is "Arctic liquid freezer II 360" and I think the thickness of the radiator+fan is 63mm the mobo I wanna use is "gigabyte z590 aorus pro ax" and the ram "corsair vengeance SL 2×8" and it's height is 44mm. I wanna know if the AIO wouldn't hit the ram so can u tell me please.
I've been looking everywhere for an answer but since this review seems to be elaborate enough , i will ask in hopes of getting an answer. According to CM , the case supports a 360mm rad on top , but I've seen no builds with a top mounted rad and fans on it and i'm inclined to believe that you have to choose between just fans or just a rad (which sounds useless) and that there won't be enough room to pass the CPU cables if you go with a proper 360 solution. Any confirmation?
My rgb fans are spinning. But no rgb. Not sure where to plug them in on my motherboard because the rgb for case is 4 pins which doesn’t fit on my tomahawk. Help?
Does anyone know how to control the rgb Fans the case comes with? I bought this case but I can’t change the Colours of the fans. I’ve tried all the cooler master rgb software but no luck, they’re stuck on a flashing green colour. Is there a physical switch?
hey, should I replace the 3 stock fans that come with the case or are they good enough for nice airflow and good cooling? ps : very nice review overall
ey @AV Techy could you answer this question? I'm planning on getting this case but the CPU cooler I got is the Cryorig R1 Universal, it is a behemoth of a cooler 168mm tall The current case I got is the Thermaltake Chaser MK I its dimension 22.40" x 9.30" x 22.90" Now If I'm to judge on the base of dimensions alone this case in the amazon description is 22.52 x 11.42 x 22.44, so it should have more than enough space right? I'm confused as you said the CPU clearance is 165mm And I'm scared of buying this case and then falling short just a couple of mm of CPU clearance
The maximum CPU cooler I'd go for is 2mm taller than the clearance of any given case. 2mm tolerance is about what you can get away with, 3mm is pushing it a bit too far. Unless you've seen that cooler on this case I wouldn't buy it.
@@AVTechy That's what I was afraid of, unfortunately, it is not possible for me to see physically this case as I'm not from the US, and the computer store in my country (it is a small country) doesn't seem interested in getting this case for whatever reason. And I haven scouring heaven and earth to see if my CPU cooler could fit even if barely. But it seems this cooler has become quite niche since its price has gone up significantly and I haven't seen anyone fitting this cooler in this case Do you still have the case with you? Would you be able to confirm if it has enough clearance for 168mm with a measuring tape? I would really appreciate if you could do me this favor if it is posible and thank you for your reply
I do have the case, but it's packed up ready to be sold. For me to measure it is have to inbox it, install a motherboard and cooler, and measure the distance between the top of the cooler and the glass. Have you looked at the Lancool 2 Mesh? It's a little more expensive, but it's got 176mm of CPU clearance.
Does it come with a disc slot because i want to order a usb drive for internet acess because when you build your pc you dont come with internet unless your pc motherboard is built with it but does it have a disc slot this case because the package of the usb comes with a disc with the driver
So I'm very new to PC building (as in I've never built a PC but have recently got into streaming and wanna build one for better production quality) and I wanna know if this case would be big enough for these items (I would look it up but again I'm new and don't know much about PCs): Graphics: RedDragon Radeon 5600xt Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus Processor: Ryzen 7 3800x Cooling: CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L (believe made by the same company as this case) Power: EVGA Supernova 750w Power Supply Would these all fit? As well do I need more cooling or will this do?
Yeah that'll all fit in fine, and that's plenty for cooling. Make sure you know how many drives you need now, and in the future though. For content creation systems you might like to hold onto a lot of stuff so you might want an Archive drive, and you might want an internal backup drive in addition to an external one for convenience. I'd recommend an M.2 drive for your boot drive, 500GB minimum, 1TB ideally to give you more room to play with. Then you can play around with everything else as you like. If you're editing your videos then you can use the boot drive as the scratch disk, or get a 250GB 2.5" SSD to keep it all seperate (not really necessary, but could be useful later for capacity purposes if you find you need it in the future), then archive the projects on a 2TB 3.5" drive (or larger depending on your preference and workflow). For Backups the minimum you'll want is an external drive. Personally I'd take the sum of all the storage you want to backup, and then double it to get the size of your backup drive. You can use incremental backups to only backup changes since the previous backup, which will keep the drive form clogging up for quite a while. When it's full you can empty the drive and start again. If you can easily keep an external drive handy then you shouldn't need an internal backup drive, but if you know you'll forget to reconnect it regularly then get an internal one - at least it'll always be there and it's something rather than nothing. Anyway, that's enough from me, all the best with the build!
@@AVTechy That's amazingly helpful! I do have a 500gb M.2 SSD as well as a 4TB Internal HDD apart of the build list. I did plan on later getting an External Hard Drive later on if I found out I needed more space. Thanks to you tho I don't have to worry about incompatibilities!! You're awesome
Guys I have td 500 mesh but idk how to sync the ARGB, I have an prime b365-plus, gigabite gtx 1660 super and 16 gb ram of hyperx rgb, I wanna sync all..
Hey I was wondering. What’s the difference between the mesh version and non mesh version of this case. I would really appreciate if you could answer I can’t find an answer to this question anywhere.
@@AVTechy it genuinely is. I was just stuck as I saw there was a mesh version and non mesh that was cheaper and I didn’t know the difference. Well thank you. Have a nice day (or evening. I’m in Canada so it’s day).
I have a very similar, if not the same, psu dust filter on my Cougar Turret (yes Turret, thats the model name....). At first I thought wow this sucks, but then as time pass I found I really don't mind. It works, and the only time I see it is when I flip my case to vacuum it. Of course my case was cheaper than U$100.
I have a question, so for the fan compatibility I can add three more 120mm fans on the front with the pre-installed ones? Or just leave it pre-installed.
What's on the compatibility slides are clearance measurements minus anything that comes with the case. If there are already fans in the case and there's enough extra room to add more than you can do that, otherwise you can just leave the included fans in there. I'm not sure why you'd want two rows of fans in the front, but that's completely up to you.
Hey I just bought this case from Amazon. This case will be used for my new build obviously. Im trying to hunt for the 5800x and the Rtx 3080. Will I have any issues in fitting them into the case?!?
No, you should be fine with the stock fans. Maybe but one to the back with two front intakes to help out the graphics card a little (rear fans are great for graphics cards).
Hello, will this case fit these things listed here: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard Crucial Ballistix Elite 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory Noctua F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan
I'm not doing that for you, read the specs of the case and you can work it out yourself. Asking someone to do that for you is lazy, and considering the amount of effort I've put into making this video as accessible as possible, even creating compatibility slides, it's kind of insulting.
@@AVTechy i have done the research and know the cooler will fit but you confused me with the 44mm. How do I check that and what do you mean with 44mm? The memory?
man this is some incredible production quality, amazing b-roll, great voice work, very detailed review, im really impressed
Again banger job on this review.
You really give people the feeling of truly knowing the case at hand after watching your reviews.
Was waiting for a micro atx build in this case live it!
I got this case, one of most easy to build in anything and looks good, has a lot of inside space without being too big outside and very good airflow. I would say it's amazing a part from small things,but not important and at this price u cannot expect everything to be perfect i guess.
Appreciate the case review and informative testing man. Can't wait for your next video, keep up the great content AV.
Man I think you're one of the best case reviewers yet
This was such an amazing review. Thank you for taking the time :)
great content my guy, exactly what people want in a overview slash review no filler !!!! ur on your way man, Ill pray for your channel take off
Idk why I’m watching this, I’ve already ordered the case. Needless to say I’m pretty pleased with my purchase.
Update? What do you think about it now?
are you still pleased?
Oi
Finally, A video that actually shows the screws for the temper glass for this case... i've been searching everywhere and no one bothered to show them. I lost mine and don't know which to get to replace them. Thumbs up
I just saw the video and it seems to me the best review I have seen of this beautiful case ... I plan to buy it for my next setup...already subscribed
Thank you so much. i have been wanting to buy this case for a while but couldn't find many reviews. so this really helped me have more confidence for my purchase.
this is a good channel. My boy spitting some useful information
I'm new to this channel after having just discovered it 1 video ago this morning & I am enjoying it. I can't imagine how much it must cost to get up and running on a channel like this. This guy has so much gear with all the lighting, mics etc. Not to mention the time it must take to edit all the cuts together with the voice over. I definitely would not have the patience to do that. So kudos to you and to all tech reviewers who do this.
Good luck in the future on the channel. I'll keep watching.
EDIT: just spied that flexible screwdriver you use at 4:47. very handy.
I really appreciate this, a thorough understanding and appreciation of the process and requirements to produce these videos.
To expand a little on it, the time taken for each video is a fair amount, that's kind of unavoidable. But the cost of creating them like the lighting, camera, etc. gets acquired over time, so it's not as painful as it might seem initially, and the revenue of the channel creates is slowly paying them off.
In the future when the channel is a little more self sustaining, upgrades won't be at the cost of my bank balance, but supported by the revenue of the channel. That'll be the golden milestone and one to look forward to (hopefully).
Thanks for checking out the channel and sticking around, I really appreciate it!!!
Great vid! Extremely helpful! Was having second thoughts when i got this case, but your vid really helped. Thanks! 👍
love your videos about computer cabinets. There is a detailed section for cable management, but A lot of reviewers don't focus on it. Keep up the good work 👍
Building a new pc. Bought this case and thanks for the vid ! 😃
Good luck!
your video and explanation is superb, this channel deserves more audience !!
Great review. You deserve more sub. Keep the great work!
this is a very dope review gotta give props to this guy, thank you so much I liked an subbed.
Thanks very much, really appreciate the support! :)
@@AVTechy could you answer this question?
I'm planning on getting this case but the CPU cooler I got is the Cryorig R1 Universal, it is a behemoth of a cooler 168mm tall
The current case I got is the Thermaltake Chaser MK I its dimension 22.40" x 9.30" x 22.90"
Now If I'm to judge on the base of dimensions alone this case in the amazon description is 22.52 x 11.42 x 22.44, so it should have more than enough space right?
I'm confused as you said the CPU clearance is 165mm
And I'm scared of buying this case and then falling short just by a couple of mm of CPU clearance
lian lee 2 and this are the 2 best white cases i saw on youtube thanks for review bro going to get one of them us soon possible
Antec nx800 white kaisa hai..
@@amiteshbaghel i cheaked it bro looks very cool and has alot of air flow go for it
@@abhijeetsinghkshatriya3552 thik hai bhai mai ussi ko lene ki soch raha hu..
This channel is gonna grow fast with this quality of video
Nice vid! I like how the case looks, and objectively speaking it stands out from the rest. I only wish the top filter rested inside an indent like on the CM MB311L. Surprised it's not more expensive, thought they'd charge a premium for etched glass and zigzaggy mesh. You know what method of attaching panels we haven't seen yet? Drawbars, the type they used to lock castle doors during medieval sieges. You won't need hinges or screws or drill into tempered glass, and you can put shapes and images on it and everything.
Verry good review, can understand everything and I'm from Germany.
Quality content!
This deserves more views
The new infographics are so nice, they deserve to linger on screen just a bit longer
You deserve WAY more subs
Excellent quality video and excellent review as well. Continue like this please!
Clear and concise, keep it up man!
Since you are doing incredibly long and detailed videos and reviews, and you´re not just doing unboxings and call them reviews, im gonna share my experience since you´re most likely to be interested and maybe show it on camera or put it to the test.
This is exclusively about air cooling.
Depending on the air cooler, the fan or fans on it, might not have sufficient power to draw the needed volume of air from their surroundings to saturate the cooler, or have just about enough. In a case with exceptionally good airflow, like a mesh case, what happens is that you artificially expand the area from where the fans of the cooler move air with the front fans of the case, so the air cooler depending on its size and the heat to dissipate, will experience a very hard drop in scaling or will experience very hard diminishing returns if you will, much before you reach the max rpm on the fans.
For example:
I have a r5 2600 at 1.41v and 4.2ghz +nh-15+meshify C, with 2x140mm sw3 and 1x120mm sw3 in front of the case. The foam filter in the mesh front panel is removed. At 140w+ there´s no difference between 1 and 2 fans. None at all. Further more, dropping front case fans and cooler fan to 1100rpm, only gets 2ºC wormer, from 72ºC to 74ºC, but drastically reduces noise. Dropping to 800rpm, it gets another 2ºC wormer, from 74 to 76.
The conclusion is basically that after 800rpm, the diminishing returns hit very hard, at 140w load and lower.
Using tape to simulate a define C, temperatures get a lot worst. 17ºC difference at 800rpm. But that´s not the only change. Now temperatures improvement scales much more with more RPM, getting 5ºC improvement at 1100rpm, from 93ºC to 88ºC and another 3,5ºC at max rpm, from 88ºC to 84/85ºC, so the difference reduces to 12-13ºC. However the more you drop RPM the more increases the difference in temperature.
These paterns are present in GN testing charts aswell prnt.sc/uptzq2
I wrote this in 2 of your videos comment sections, to make sure you see it. Not intended for spam. Sorry if it bothers you.
Looking sleek and good with that haircut man!
Great vid thanks for the detailed review
That PSU dust filter 😭😭😭😭
It seems to be a pretty popular way for case makers to save money these days. Same exact deal with my MB311L, but honestly I don't really care. Yeah it can come off any time you handle the PC, so kind of annoying.
It's just not often that I ever move my case though. It gets a spray of compressed air once in a while, that's about it.
perfect video, thanks! cooler master makes some great cases lately
Great video, great review 👍🏻
Great detailed video. Thank you.
What a nice rewiew! Would you recommend changing Aerocool Aero One for this one?
Unless you need to, no. It's not so good you need to rush out and change your case. If you need a new case, sure it's an option, but I wouldn't go out and get something different unless you need to for some reason. Just my opinion though.
Hi! really love the video! If I may ask though, can I fit the kraken x62 280mm radiator at the top? you only mentioned 240/360 at top.
This video is so amazing and detailed! One question I have is if I put a 240mm AIO radiator on the top, will the RAM for my Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard still fit? I saw a review on Amazon saying that it doesn't but a lot of other people don't seem to have a problem.
very professional work
I really wish Cooler Master would start adding an USB C port on their front panels. :(
This is the guy for case reviews, no question about it
Haha, thanks very much :)
The problem is I don't actually make that many videos. I need to optimise this whole process a lot more to make the most the time I have available to do it...
No worries man, as long as we keep getting reviews like this one will be all good
Had to sub. Good review!
Excellent, thanks for the support! :)
Coolermaster are on a roll lately.
Hey there,
Amazing video, truly informative and I think one of the best around regarding this case
I wanted to know your opinion cause I don't know what to buy for my midrange system (around 1000$) where I'm willing to spend between 70 and 100$ max for the case:
Currently trying to choose between the Corsair 275r airflow, NZXT h510, the new Antec DF600 flux and obviously the case of the video.
Which one would you recommend? Considering that I wouldn't be pushing all that often the PC to the limit
Thanks
Suggestion for builds: some high TDP stuff. Consider that not everyone runs a 65 Watts R5-3600 with a midrange GPU which is relatively easy to cool. There are lots of people sporting high TDP builds like TR/i7/i9 combined with beefy GPUs like the 3080/3090 which can easily suck 600W+ from the wall. Of that 99% is transformed into heat that ends up in the case and needs to be removed. I feel like that's where the high airflow cases can separate themselves from the 'fashion' cases.
Those kind of parts can be pricey, but since it is about the heat output and not the system performance you can probably get away with an AMD space heater CPU (FX?) or older Intel Xeon parts which go relatively cheap.
What would you recommend me if I want to make a build 600w+ in a TD500 Mesh?
That is one good looking case, really tempted to do a white build this time around.
Very good job as Always. Great and beautifull case. But I have a NOX Hummer ZX and It has that kind of bottom filter but costs the half price. :)
glad you happened to review aerocool case, that has some 33cfm fans and still performs better than this. I have a case with 33cfm fans, almost same shape of aero one. Thought of giving it up and going for this case. Hoping of better cooling with better build quality... Guess money is better spent on fans alone. Also good luck on the channel.
Stock fans: CM MF120 Halo (aRGB) white edition (x3): 47.2 CFM ± 10% (Airflow) / 1.6 mmH2O ± 10% (Pressure) / 650-1800 RPM (PWM) ± 10% (Speed) / 6 - 30 dB(A) (Noise)
The old CM Blade Master 120: 76.8 CFM / 3.90 mmH2O / 600-2000 RPM (PWM) ± 10% / 13 - 32 dB(A) (No aRGB)
Ref: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM: 60.1 CFM / 2,34 mmH2O / 450-2000 RPM / 22,6 dB(A) (No aRGB)
@@James_QB nice info thanks. Not very great heh
I don't think there's a clear better fan there. Different speeds, airflow and noise levels. To understand how they compare you'd need to test them against each other.
Both sets of fans are plenty for 99% of people needs IMO, don't fall into the trap of comparing on set if numbers and making a conclusion. Also think how each manufacturer comes to those numbers, it's highly doubtful they're using the same testing methods.
production quality is amazing. only 8.59k subs!!
How are the stock fans compared to the sickle flow 120?
Excellent review❤️
Would like to see if you can get a Deep Cool Gammaxx V2 for review. Seems like a really good cooler for the price.
great video. I'm about to buy this; but I need at least 6 USB ports. What should I do?
Thanks
Either get a board with the correct amount of ports you need, or get a USB hub to make up for any extra ports you need. They're pretty cheap and you can find one to put on your desk for easy access, and many have different inputs like SD, Micro SD, etc, if you're offloading footage it files from other gear.
@@AVTechy awesome thanks for the great tips. Keep up the epic videos man
tbh i’m very happy with this case i bought it for my first pc build and temperatures are great in here except the psu dust filter is a tad wimpy lmao but i just slapped three more fans in there and it looks amazing with the geometric designs. the only thing i HATE is that i have to clean the front panel like every 2-3 weeks but i guess that’s what you get for having a ton of airflow
It looks like it has the densest mesh filter in 1 filter category, almost like removable filter in Corsair 4000D airflow. I am actually happy that case like that exists.
Is heat with the three fans front only good or i need to istal more fans ?
Nice review, but for the price Lancool ii mesh rgb is the better choise
Is it normal that mine has a "clicky" power button because I have never seen someone on the internet complaining about it.
AV Techy is back ... the wait was long :D
Nice review
Great job! Very detailed video......
will this case have enough clearence for a NH-D15 chromax.Black? In the video, it says CPU cooler clearence is 165mm, but the cooler is 165.1 mm. I know it seems selfe explanatory I was just wondering what yall thought
should i add extra fans to this case or are the 3 font pre installed enough?
Hey I have a question for my pc build. What is the TKG 2510 wire from the case used for? Please answer
4:03 so the aio I wanna use is "Arctic liquid freezer II 360" and I think the thickness of the radiator+fan is 63mm the mobo I wanna use is "gigabyte z590 aorus pro ax" and the ram "corsair vengeance SL 2×8" and it's height is 44mm. I wanna know if the AIO wouldn't hit the ram so can u tell me please.
I've been looking everywhere for an answer but since this review seems to be elaborate enough , i will ask in hopes of getting an answer. According to CM , the case supports a 360mm rad on top , but I've seen no builds with a top mounted rad and fans on it and i'm inclined to believe that you have to choose between just fans or just a rad (which sounds useless) and that there won't be enough room to pass the CPU cables if you go with a proper 360 solution. Any confirmation?
Yes it support up 2 / (Two) 360mm rads if needed: 1 Front / 1 Top or combine 1 Rad either way with case fans on Front / Top: 3x120mm / 2x140mm
jesus fuck you gave me so much info that my brain melted, great job!
My rgb fans are spinning. But no rgb. Not sure where to plug them in on my motherboard because the rgb for case is 4 pins which doesn’t fit on my tomahawk. Help?
That case is bigger than my Wardrobe :o
Does anyone know how to control the rgb Fans the case comes with? I bought this case but I can’t change the Colours of the fans. I’ve tried all the cooler master rgb software but no luck, they’re stuck on a flashing green colour. Is there a physical switch?
Hi I have a question where do u plug the fans so it has argb and to have power? And how?
Definitely gonna upgrade to this case from tecware nexus c next month
I was gonna get this case but i think it's a bit big for me
hey, should I replace the 3 stock fans that come with the case or are they good enough for nice airflow and good cooling? ps : very nice review overall
They're good for most systems, plenty of power in them.
Stock fans: CM MF120 Halo (aRGB) white edition (x3): 47.2 CFM ± 10% (Airflow) / 1.6 mmH2O ± 10% (Pressure) / 650-1800 RPM (PWM) ± 10% (Speed) / 6 - 30 dB(A) (Noise)
The old CM Blade Master 120: 76.8 CFM / 3.90 mmH2O / 600-2000 RPM (PWM) ± 10% / 13 - 32 dB(A) (No aRGB)
Ref: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM: 60.1 CFM / 2,34 mmH2O / 450-2000 RPM / 22,6 dB(A) (No aRGB)
My bet if performance you seek use best: Noctua Tower Nh-d15 or Nh-u12a & old CM Blade Master 120 combined.. XD!
ey @AV Techy could you answer this question?
I'm planning on getting this case but the CPU cooler I got is the Cryorig R1 Universal, it is a behemoth of a cooler 168mm tall
The current case I got is the Thermaltake Chaser MK I its dimension 22.40" x 9.30" x 22.90"
Now If I'm to judge on the base of dimensions alone this case in the amazon description is 22.52 x 11.42 x 22.44, so it should have more than enough space right?
I'm confused as you said the CPU clearance is 165mm
And I'm scared of buying this case and then falling short just a couple of mm of CPU clearance
The maximum CPU cooler I'd go for is 2mm taller than the clearance of any given case. 2mm tolerance is about what you can get away with, 3mm is pushing it a bit too far. Unless you've seen that cooler on this case I wouldn't buy it.
@@AVTechy That's what I was afraid of, unfortunately, it is not possible for me to see physically this case as I'm not from the US, and the computer store in my country (it is a small country) doesn't seem interested in getting this case for whatever reason.
And I haven scouring heaven and earth to see if my CPU cooler could fit even if barely. But it seems this cooler has become quite niche since its price has gone up significantly and I haven't seen anyone fitting this cooler in this case
Do you still have the case with you?
Would you be able to confirm if it has enough clearance for 168mm with a measuring tape?
I would really appreciate if you could do me this favor if it is posible and thank you for your reply
I do have the case, but it's packed up ready to be sold. For me to measure it is have to inbox it, install a motherboard and cooler, and measure the distance between the top of the cooler and the glass.
Have you looked at the Lancool 2 Mesh? It's a little more expensive, but it's got 176mm of CPU clearance.
@@AVTechy bummer, but understandable.
Regardless I really appreciate your input saved me a 100 bucks and a lotnof headache.
Thank you
Does it come with a disc slot because i want to order a usb drive for internet acess because when you build your pc you dont come with internet unless your pc motherboard is built with it but does it have a disc slot this case because the package of the usb comes with a disc with the driver
I want to Use 3 Extra Fan Along With the RGB Fans Included in the case (6 total) do I need a RGB Header? I am using MSI B550 M tomahock
Nice video! I think you miss the back of the case (ports)
Ports? Do you mean yeh rear IO of the motherboard?
@@AVTechy yes,when i bought this case I thought that has one plate or something
So I'm very new to PC building (as in I've never built a PC but have recently got into streaming and wanna build one for better production quality) and I wanna know if this case would be big enough for these items (I would look it up but again I'm new and don't know much about PCs):
Graphics: RedDragon Radeon 5600xt
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
Processor: Ryzen 7 3800x
Cooling: CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L (believe made by the same company as this case)
Power: EVGA Supernova 750w Power Supply
Would these all fit? As well do I need more cooling or will this do?
Yeah that'll all fit in fine, and that's plenty for cooling. Make sure you know how many drives you need now, and in the future though. For content creation systems you might like to hold onto a lot of stuff so you might want an Archive drive, and you might want an internal backup drive in addition to an external one for convenience.
I'd recommend an M.2 drive for your boot drive, 500GB minimum, 1TB ideally to give you more room to play with. Then you can play around with everything else as you like.
If you're editing your videos then you can use the boot drive as the scratch disk, or get a 250GB 2.5" SSD to keep it all seperate (not really necessary, but could be useful later for capacity purposes if you find you need it in the future), then archive the projects on a 2TB 3.5" drive (or larger depending on your preference and workflow).
For Backups the minimum you'll want is an external drive. Personally I'd take the sum of all the storage you want to backup, and then double it to get the size of your backup drive. You can use incremental backups to only backup changes since the previous backup, which will keep the drive form clogging up for quite a while. When it's full you can empty the drive and start again. If you can easily keep an external drive handy then you shouldn't need an internal backup drive, but if you know you'll forget to reconnect it regularly then get an internal one - at least it'll always be there and it's something rather than nothing.
Anyway, that's enough from me, all the best with the build!
@@AVTechy That's amazingly helpful! I do have a 500gb M.2 SSD as well as a 4TB Internal HDD apart of the build list. I did plan on later getting an External Hard Drive later on if I found out I needed more space.
Thanks to you tho I don't have to worry about incompatibilities!! You're awesome
Can you please tell me how to chanche colors of the fan. Thank you
did you notice the front fans being loud bx any chance ?
Check the stock graphs for their noise output.
Guys I have td 500 mesh but idk how to sync the ARGB, I have an prime b365-plus, gigabite gtx 1660 super and 16 gb ram of hyperx rgb, I wanna sync all..
Bro you need to download fusion 2.0 by gigabyte and yeah did you connect the case rgb cables with the rgb header provided in the motherboard?
There are 3 fans at the front, and you can put 3 fans on the top, but can you put a fan on the back for exhaust?
Does this case support ma610p cooler height?
IS IT possible to build with a Asus B550-f gaming Mainboard + 360 Aio in this Case?
Which one to buy?
This or be quiet pure base 500dx
Either will be great. Pick which one you feel you'll like the most.
but how looks in the nigth?
Hey I was wondering. What’s the difference between the mesh version and non mesh version of this case. I would really appreciate if you could answer I can’t find an answer to this question anywhere.
The front panel is solid on the original, mesh on the mesh version.
@@AVTechy thank you so much. I’m going to get this case.
Good choice, it's a nice case :)
@@AVTechy it genuinely is. I was just stuck as I saw there was a mesh version and non mesh that was cheaper and I didn’t know the difference. Well thank you. Have a nice day (or evening. I’m in Canada so it’s day).
This is like my 10th video now. Is the damn glass clear or grey!?
A little dark tint texture
Can I put a z590 tomahawk inside this case?
I have a very similar, if not the same, psu dust filter on my Cougar Turret (yes Turret, thats the model name....).
At first I thought wow this sucks, but then as time pass I found I really don't mind. It works, and the only time I see it is when I flip my case to vacuum it. Of course my case was cheaper than U$100.
Do you hear noise from the disks? I do not see any anti-vibration pads.
I'm assuming discs mean fans. No, the fans were perfectly alright without additional padding to reduce vibration.
@@AVTechy I am sorry. I corrected the original message.
I have a question, so for the fan compatibility I can add three more 120mm fans on the front with the pre-installed ones? Or just leave it pre-installed.
What's on the compatibility slides are clearance measurements minus anything that comes with the case. If there are already fans in the case and there's enough extra room to add more than you can do that, otherwise you can just leave the included fans in there.
I'm not sure why you'd want two rows of fans in the front, but that's completely up to you.
@@AVTechy Thank you. This really helps a lot.
Thx man
Hey I just bought this case from Amazon. This case will be used for my new build obviously. Im trying to hunt for the 5800x and the Rtx 3080. Will I have any issues in fitting them into the case?!?
I just noticed you caint install a optical drive
@@MrShaun_D1 im okay with that bro
Is it possible to somehow securely add a third HDD in this case?
will my corsair vengeance pro hit my coolermaster ml360r radiator on top? the ram is 51mm tall
What fans are the ones you bring?
Are the default rgb fans connected to one wire?
If it didnt have that side glass texture it would be awesome
Would I need to add extra fans using this case or no. Going to be running a rtx 3070 and ryzen 5 3600
No, you should be fine with the stock fans. Maybe but one to the back with two front intakes to help out the graphics card a little (rear fans are great for graphics cards).
Hello, will this case fit these things listed here:
ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Elite 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Noctua F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan
I'm not doing that for you, read the specs of the case and you can work it out yourself.
Asking someone to do that for you is lazy, and considering the amount of effort I've put into making this video as accessible as possible, even creating compatibility slides, it's kind of insulting.
@@AVTechy i have done the research and know the cooler will fit but you confused me with the 44mm. How do I check that and what do you mean with 44mm? The memory?
Listen to what I said and the answer will be provided.
@@AVTechy I'll rewatch the part again
@@AVTechy ah, i see. Max Motherboard must be less than 44mm. I understand now. ty