Let me add TEN years later it is still helping people! I just installed a tongue and groove pine wall in my garage and ran into the problem of the outlets being recessed to far back! Thank you.
I'm getting ready to cover a drywall wall in my study with knotty pine and was wondering how I was going to bring the outlets out to the new level of the wood. 9 years later and your video is still helping people. Thanks for the simple idea and explanation.
After getting my thick quartz backsplash installed. I used "spacers" and it worked like a charm. My kitchen electrical outlets are sturdy and look good! "Spacers" for electrical outlets are available in hardware stores.
This video solved a problem I've been having with a home reno project. I removed wood paneling and want to replace it with drywall but the drywall is thicker than the 40 year old paneling and I was struggling with how to work the outlet boxes with the depth needed for the drywall. Thank you so much!
@@Aaron-xo5zr I sure did. I had to cut thin pieces are wedges to gill the gap. thank goodness it was for an old rental home so appearance didn't have to be 100%.
Very good instruction and topic. I tried in several places, but mostly they talk about installing on regular or drywall, so almost nothing about when you deal with tiled walls.
There must be a better way... The end result with the plate sitting over the uneven stone/tile surface doesn't look much better than if you'd simply tiled around the plate in the first place.
With the outlet cover on, trace the cover with a pencil. Take the cover off, and grind down with a diamond bit dremmel bit to make all the surfaces level so the face plate sits flush.
normally with rock/stone like this you could grind it done level and flush for the face plate to sit in. it's easier with tile being that it's already a flat surface.
I don't know how much that extension costs; I never used one. Since 1985 I've been using #14 wire wrapped around a Phillip's Head screwdriver to form little "springs," cutting them down to size and sliding them over each screw...
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO. I am thinking of putting some 3/4 tung and groove pine boards and am wondering if this application would work? Thanks again and sorry about big caps.
I am still wondering this. Need to do something similiar. I could imagine sticking a shim or piece of material between but was hoping for something better, not sure if this is it or not. Will have to get one and seem
I've had to shim these as well to keep the outlet from moving in or out some as you plug something in or unplug it . There is no great way of doing this without shimming in some cases .
The correct way would be to have your tile (stone does not work very well as its not flat) installed first and cut so the opening is the same size as box opening. Then install extender and tighten screws until tabs make contact with tile. Tile must be behind extender for it to work properly.
Yeah but so many people will say that it is a fire hazard. I did something similar in my basement where I covered the studs with plywood and I just pulled the receptacles out and screwed them to the plywood then just screwed the faceplate back over it. It looks great and is sturdy but now I am worried that its a fire hazard? What do you think?
Wouldn't work for me on my tile black splash due to outlet having too many wires (disposal and plug) and the extender was too small for the outlet to fit.
Will this extender work for drywall too? I just cut a hole for my outlet/light switch and the box is sitting too far back and face plate won’t fit correctly. Will the extender work in my situation as well?
I'm planning on putting Ledger panels (like the one he has in video) and there's one outlet to deal with...I also thought the outlet cover over the stone was weird looking too...what about using a dremel or an osciliating saw to cut away the uneven pieces for a more even surface....haven't picked up or installed anything yet....has anyone ever tried this?
One option would be to add a block around the outlet so the faceplate sits flush with it. You can buy these or you can make it out of wood and paint it a similar color as the stone to blend in. I think the Dremel might leave an ugly edge...but that's probably because I wouldn't have the patience for it.
His surface was uneven, however, once you have the second layer of material (whether that be stone, tile, whatever), you can finish tightening the screws to the second layer, making it secure. He was just showing the gap that the extender makes, and how it can be adjusted to whichever measurement you require.
No code about screw tightness. That’s why they’re longer. The tabs on the outlet should stop on the tile which should be cut close to the edge of the box.
Its ledger stone. It's supposed to be like that. A professional would have ground the stone down around the outlet cover to have it sit as flush as possible. This looks like shit
If you're going to do this to your walls then patch up the outlet with drywall and simply MOVE the outlet somewhere else or do away with it. This looks hella ugleh.
Yes, you can easily break the ground connection of the outlet unless you add a ground wire which you normally don't need if it's a hundred percent armored wiring and metal boxes.
Lol, "They're really cheap, a couple of bucks". Well, it's 2022 and not they're at least 50% more expensive. Probably not a big deal unless you need a few dozen.
Let me add TEN years later it is still helping people! I just installed a tongue and groove pine wall in my garage and ran into the problem of the outlets being recessed to far back! Thank you.
Finally, after watching several hacks on this, found a video on how to do it properly. Quick, and straight to the point. Thank you!
I'm getting ready to cover a drywall wall in my study with knotty pine and was wondering how I was going to bring the outlets out to the new level of the wood. 9 years later and your video is still helping people. Thanks for the simple idea and explanation.
This is one of the absolute BEST how to videos I have ever seen.
Brief, clear, to the point and thorough.
So impressed! Thank you.
After getting my thick quartz backsplash installed. I used "spacers" and it worked like a charm. My kitchen electrical outlets are sturdy and look good! "Spacers" for electrical outlets are available in hardware stores.
A close up of the box, with the stone and without the cover would have been the best part.
Best How-To video I’ve seen. Definitely going to try to add these in myself.
This video solved a problem I've been having with a home reno project. I removed wood paneling and want to replace it with drywall but the drywall is thicker than the 40 year old paneling and I was struggling with how to work the outlet boxes with the depth needed for the drywall. Thank you so much!
Paul Hurwitz I’m doing same thing you did, removing 50’s paneling and now drywall makes outlets too deep in the wall
@@aussie2uGA did you have issues with trim around windows and doors?
@@Aaron-xo5zr I sure did. I had to cut thin pieces are wedges to gill the gap. thank goodness it was for an old rental home so appearance didn't have to be 100%.
Very good instruction and topic. I tried in several places, but mostly they talk about installing on regular or drywall, so almost nothing about when you deal with tiled walls.
That may work for the tile I have, one that has a uniform thickness. This stone, with its uneven surface, leaves gaps behind the outlet cover.
That's why dremels exist. Grind down around the plate for a uniform finish.
2024 and I watched this. Good to know for any future projects I may have!
GREAT video! You are a really good teacher. Simple and to the point. Thanks so much!!!
There must be a better way... The end result with the plate sitting over the uneven stone/tile surface doesn't look much better than if you'd simply tiled around the plate in the first place.
I totally agree.
Jason Carlin Agreed. It would probably work well with level tile, but with an uneven surface like that stone, it looks like shit
Just gotta grind or chip the part of the tile keeping the outlet cover uneven. But it will appear slightly recessed most times.
With the outlet cover on, trace the cover with a pencil. Take the cover off, and grind down with a diamond bit dremmel bit to make all the surfaces level so the face plate sits flush.
@@4mulaBaby thatd take for ever with a dremel, gotta learn those angle.grinder skills
normally with rock/stone like this you could grind it done level and flush for the face plate to sit in. it's easier with tile being that it's already a flat surface.
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Yeah. The finished product looked like shit in this video
Thanks. Didn't know these extenders existed.
awesome solution for my current problem. thanks!
Exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks.
This was very helpful. Thanks!
Oh damm it mann! I can do this!! I'm gonna do my kitchen facelift my self!!! I love this!!
I don't know how much that extension costs; I never used one.
Since 1985 I've been using #14 wire wrapped around a Phillip's Head screwdriver to form little "springs," cutting them down to size and sliding them over each screw...
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO. I am thinking of putting some 3/4 tung and groove pine boards and am wondering if this application would work? Thanks again and sorry about big caps.
How do I extend a dimmer switch? We are installing a thin brick backsplash and we can't find an extender for it.
How does the extender remain tight if you adjust it's depth by how much you screw it in?
under cabinet lighting
See the video you just watched at 1:35 . . . .
I am still wondering this. Need to do something similiar. I could imagine sticking a shim or piece of material between but was hoping for something better, not sure if this is it or not. Will have to get one and seem
I've had to shim these as well to keep the outlet from moving in or out some as you plug something in or unplug it . There is no great way of doing this without shimming in some cases .
The correct way would be to have your tile (stone does not work very well as its not flat) installed first and cut so the opening is the same size as box opening. Then install extender and tighten screws until tabs make contact with tile. Tile must be behind extender for it to work properly.
Nylon washers or cut pieces of thick plastic with a hole drilled through will work too.
Yeah but so many people will say that it is a fire hazard. I did something similar in my basement where I covered the studs with plywood and I just pulled the receptacles out and screwed them to the plywood then just screwed the faceplate back over it. It looks great and is sturdy but now I am worried that its a fire hazard? What do you think?
While much better than tiling around cover, I would do some scribing also?
Thanks for explaining how this works!
Thanks! Exactly what I needed to know!
Im guessing this will work for switches as well?
Thanks for posting this. It was very helpful.
I don’t feel that floating plate looks professional. Is there another option?
Awesome just the info i needed thanx👍
great video saved my project
Simple thank you 🙏
thank you sooo much
The outlet plate cover made me laugh pretty hard ... LOL
Hi Tish. The screws that come with the extender hold it in place.
Very helpful, thank you!!
learning!
Wouldn't work for me on my tile black splash due to outlet having too many wires (disposal and plug) and the extender was too small for the outlet to fit.
Will this extender work for drywall too? I just cut a hole for my outlet/light switch and the box is sitting too far back and face plate won’t fit correctly. Will the extender work in my situation as well?
yes
Very helpful, thank you...
Thank you, now a know how to do it.👍
Thank you so much.
I bought these and they won't fit inside my box . The house was built in 92 and has a metal box.
Thanks; Did know about these extenders. Simple. w
It's easier to put the tile on first then space it
I'm planning on putting Ledger panels (like the one he has in video) and there's one outlet to deal with...I also thought the outlet cover over the stone was weird looking too...what about using a dremel or an osciliating saw to cut away the uneven pieces for a more even surface....haven't picked up or installed anything yet....has anyone ever tried this?
One option would be to add a block around the outlet so the faceplate sits flush with it. You can buy these or you can make it out of wood and paint it a similar color as the stone to blend in. I think the Dremel might leave an ugly edge...but that's probably because I wouldn't have the patience for it.
Can you use electrical box extenders with GFCI outlets?
Yes
1:35 - so it's not code that the screws need to be tight all the way?
His surface was uneven, however, once you have the second layer of material (whether that be stone, tile, whatever), you can finish tightening the screws to the second layer, making it secure. He was just showing the gap that the extender makes, and how it can be adjusted to whichever measurement you require.
Oh that makes sense now
No code about screw tightness. That’s why they’re longer. The tabs on the outlet should stop on the tile which should be cut close to the edge of the box.
Should have used something flat around the box like they do with masonry. The gaps around the cover do not look professional.
Never knew...
Nobody has these in store. If bought online most likely it will not fit.
Should of found stone the same thickness to place around the outlet so your cover was flush with the wall.
should have
Its ledger stone. It's supposed to be like that. A professional would have ground the stone down around the outlet cover to have it sit as flush as possible. This looks like shit
If you're going to do this to your walls then patch up the outlet with drywall and simply MOVE the outlet somewhere else or do away with it. This looks hella ugleh.
CODE QUESTION can you use plastic with a metal box?
luvsilly60 It depends on your local code and which version they use. I would put a call into the local building department to get clarification.
Thank You I will ask I failed electrical inspection over something else. Appreciate your videos.
Yes, you can easily break the ground connection of the outlet unless you add a ground wire which you normally don't need if it's a hundred percent armored wiring and metal boxes.
Lol, "They're really cheap, a couple of bucks". Well, it's 2022 and not they're at least 50% more expensive. Probably not a big deal unless you need a few dozen.
Omg....over stacked stone that looks NASTY! YOU say it looks professional? No. Just....no.
Horrendous!
Looks like crap
Ugly plate choice.