James Gunn's DCU Needs Green Arrow
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So, the future of DC movies is about to undergo a serious change, with James Gunn in new leadership and a new direction that should, in theory, allow for new characters and heroes to get the spotlight. And there’s one hero that I think desperately needs a movie. Something to really understand the character and show the world just how important he can be. The Emerald Archer himself, Green Arrow. So how could Green Arrow fit into this new universe, and what could a solo Oliver Queen movie look like?
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Please do a pre-write
desperate times call for desperate measures king
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What is this some kind of childish game?
Hope they fully embrace the goofiness of Green Arrow. The CW tried so hard to make him the Green Batman, even way back when Smallville was adapting him on screen.
I really liked smallville GA.
i dont even consider him the same character tbh
I Like the dark look of green arrow the Batman look it’s very interesting
And CW had batwoman
Don't care love all the Ollies Smallville and more 😉
For the record, Boyega rocked a beard for “Red, White and Blue” when he played Leroy Logan. And he looked good. But, I think there is value in having Oliver Queen be played by a white actor. The whole “Being a part of and benefiting from a broken system” thing that is vital for his character works best with someone who looks like someone who is benefiting from that system.
I think this is the first time I have ever seen someone give a good argument for why a character needs to be white.
@@KarlKristofferJohnsson most characters don't need to be any specific skin color, there are very few where it acyually matters but i agree that this one is one of them
why not make him asian? or maybe Hispanic or better yet, make him a lesbian woman, BRO the character is white, no need to justify it
@@rebbeca3097it don't rlly matter
@@rebbeca3097name bunch of numbers type take
You’re probably gonna mention this but Black Canary need to be done justice Arrow did her so dirty and Green Arrow never appeared in the DCEU while the one decent Black Canary did
Edit: Definitely make a prewrite please Id love that
I actually really liked Jurnee Smollett as Black Canary and its a shame we didn't see more of her, and that her Black Canary show might not happen. I think she did great in the role with a lot of potential. I hope they find a way to bring her into the DCU, but if not her then Im sure there are other choices to play Dinah
Yea can you please make a prewrite.
The only good Black Canary we’ve seen in live action so far has been Jurnee Smollet imo, and I hope Gunn keeps her in the role.
@@brohiddlesby7010 Me too. She was one of my favourite parts of Birds of Prey and I really hope she gets another chance to play the character in the DCU. She has so much potential and has a love for the character of Dinah Lance. If she doesn't return though I may be upset but I will have to accept it
I'd love a prewrite of this movie, just like he did with The Flash.
James Gunn has stated that he's a big Green Arrow fan, even going as Green Arrow once for Halloween when he was a kid. I have faith that James Gunn will bring Green Arrow into the new DCU (perhaps later in Chapter 1 or the beginning of Chapter 2). I also hope that we get Black Canary given some respect and justice even though I really liked Jurnee Smollett as Black Canary in Birds of Prey and hope we see her reprise her character in the DCU, and if not then I'm sure there are other good choices for Dinah in the DCU
Honestly how comic book movies are now.. I’m sure he’ll be a side character in a DCU film so we know he exist. Similar to how they added all the characters in Black Adam. I hope they do this in all the new films. The DCEU failed at it with Themyscira, they could’ve added a few female heroes that were familiar. Just like how Man of steel should’ve had supergirl and Martian Manhunter somewhere in that film. But after seeing JL Synder Cut & the trailers for The Flash.. I have hope that Warner Bro’s will continue to have a few hero’s and possibly villains per film.
Well he's only released half of the first chapter so my guess is that he'll show up at some point in the second half
I feel like something that would work is to have Green Arrow be established, not starting out, and just have him be an urban Robin Hood, fighting crimes against the poor by the powerful. Also, rather than having Canary fulfill the obligatory romantic love interest by the end, why not have their relationship be tested? A major part of their relationship has been Oliver's stubborness playing off Dinah's pointedness, and seeing that instead of the more typical "two protagonist heroes fall in love," I think, would be more interesting.
The 9th circle would be an excellent choice for the antagonists. Or, maybe drug trafficking by pharma corps would work too, referencing the "Speedy is a junkie" story.
Great vid!
I'd also like to see Oliver's friendship with Hal on screen as well because we've never seen that dynamic before in any form of media other than comics (not counting the shitty tomorrow verse movie)
A Green Arrow prewrite would be awesome
If you include Onomatopoeia as a part of your Green Arrow prewrite, I'll 110% watch it.
I feel like vertigo is a better choice cause the batman already did a serial killer villain
idk if he would work well in a live-action setting tho
Now here me out, what if onomatopoeia had weapons and gadgets from the heroes he killed. Like a grappling hook, boomerang, and maybe even a set of trackers that Batman has used.
@@fullmetal2455I’d save Vertigo for either a Canary movie or a team up movie because Onomatopoeia is not just a serial killer, he’s a twisted and mysterious mind who hunts non-powered superheroes for fun? For revenge? For sport? I think there’s a lot of angles you can take with him and I’d like to see how his gimmick would appear on screen without word bubbles.
After almost a decade of misrepresentation in outside media (looking at you Arrowverse), I am beyond excited at the prospect of having a proper Green Arrow. Just please don't screw up Green Arrow and Black Canary's relationship again.
The issue was more that people focused on his personality so that arrow could focus on his skills being underrated and they both produced a fractured character
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Ain't no way you dissed Arrow 💀
@@ccelite3782 it's a great show (for the most part) but Green Arrow is written more like Batman than Green Arrow.
People should keep in mind that James Gunn said during the announcement that everything he announced wasn't the entire chapter, there are still other unannounced projects and I firmly believe we'll see Green Arrow come into the mix.
He might even be in the lanterns show if we're lucky
Nobody wants to show respect for green arrow because he's not as known. But, when he's actually put in action, HE'S AMAZING. I wanted to see green arrow in live action after watching JLU. The show didn't deliver because he was just a darker batman. I need green arrow to written well. GUNN PLEASE PUT RESPECT ON OLIVERS NAME
The show didn't deliver? lol 8 seasons of a show watched globally all over the world. That show along with the arrowverse did way better than the flop DCEU
@@hasan_1888The show was great but it was nothing like comics green arrow
Something I love about CW’s Arrow is the killing rule, for Batman he never kills it could never be the same if he did, whereas Oliver did kill, he didn’t care he had a mission, but then he realised he can be doing that, that people can’t change if he kills them and everyone else will have the same fate, and seeing Oliver restrain himself being tempted and tried to kill makes it better for me, fight back addiction
@Super fights But why is it Batman's responsibility? The court or the cops can kill them too and legally get away with it.
@Super fights maybe, maybe not, we don’t know, so don’t give up hope, that’s why they keep fighting
@@s-wo8781 funny how most people don't realise that the court and the cops can but refuse to do anything about it he brings them to justice to face the law the law is what fails to do anything about it
@@s-wo8781 Its not Batman's responsibility to viscously assault criminals, torture them and break more privacy violations than Facebook, but that has never stopped him.
@@redchaos130 You think you really said something but you didn't.
Honestly, I need a green arrow like the the one we see in injustice, specifically injustice 2. Give me the comedic king and charismatic man he was there, his relationship with canary was perfect too.
The Ryan Johnson director choice is perfect and it would be funny how mad people are gonna be about that. Also you should definitely make more Green Arrow content
People who say he’s a bad director are usually the people who just watch Star Wars and whatever is popular that doesn’t require you to think too much and nothing else.. Knives Out movies and Looper absolutely slap
He's to busy earnings 100 million dollars for each Knives Out sequel
Agreed on both statements. Rian Johnson would be interesting and fun for sure and Troy should definitely make some more Green Arrow content
@@firstlast9846 eh I still think he was a horrible choice to direct the middle movie in a trilogy. He's known for subverting expectations and that doesn't really work if he's not the one with the main vision
Yeah I honestly would love to see him direct a superhero movie. Some kind of green arrow or street level character is perfect
I would love to see a Green Arrow pitch video. He’s one of my favorite characters in comics and you always do a phenomenal job with your pitches
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Brad Pitt as Oliver Queen, I need that casting I'm not kidding. I honestly wanna see David Leitch as Director but Rian Johnson is pretty good too
That would be dope
brad pitt will be a thousand years old when they’ll actually adapt green arrow lmao
@@noamasaf2668 he's not that old is he
@@highdefinition450 brad pitt is going to be 60 in like 6-5 months i was obviously exaggerating lmao but he cant play oliver queen
I also really want to see Zatanna and Deadman in the new DCU. I really like those two characters from JLU and Justice League Dark.
I'm really interested in seeing Dinah and Roy in the new DCU. I just hope they don't forget about the family around Oliver like you said Troy.
The one thing that I hope they don't do is tease Black Canary as part of a post-credit scene or something. These characters are at their best when they're working together, and that's something we should get in the first movie.
Something I’d like to see in a Green Arrow movie, or at least the first one, would be him losing his wealth. Him ultimately losing his money was what originally pushed him into the socially conscious, aggressively left-wing hero we know him as, and Hard Travelling Heroes expands on that. So I’d like to see that on screen and for them to show how that pushes Oliver further down the “look out for the little guy” mentality
That would be awesome specially if the ehe villain of the film end up being Count Vertigo, since he is also rich and part royalty and his conflict with Green Arrow could bring Oliver story full circle: He started as arrogant spoil billionaire, he ended as heroic figure protecting the people he once ignored, from corrupt wealthy criminals.
I'm hoping we get a healthy relationship between Oliver and Dinah, where they are happily married, or at least engaged, she's a therapist who works with metahuman children, while also primarily helping the members of the Justice League, Teen Titans and other heroes.
I would LOVE to see you do a pre-write video for a potential green arrow movie, that would be awsome
I never knew much about Green Arrow, but once I researched him, I saw the Iron Man comparisons and realized that he could be the next grounded, human superhero story. I’d love (for lack of better terms) a modern remake of/tribute to Iron Man (not that DC could ever call it that lol). Also, yes please for a prewrite!!! More prewrite content in general please, you’re such a great writer and they’re my favorite videos of yours!
Green Arrow has always been my favorite DC character. And I'm sure Gunn will definitely give him a shot in the new DCU.
Steel is a character I've always wanted to seen done justice on the big screen *we don't talk about that other one*
as long as we eventually get an adaptation of jeff lemire’s run, i’ll be happy. komodo is sick as hell.
Green Arrow is like one of the coolest super-heroes ever. I love this character so much. He has so much potential in the big screen. He deserves a faithful big budget live-action film made with love, animated movie, animated series and a video game.
I would love to see a Prewrite video on a Green Arrow movie soon. I love these kind of videos 😊
Come on Troy. Make the green arrow prewrite. I’m also waiting for part 2. Of the DC characters that should be adapted James Gunn‘s new universe
The 9th circle is such an awesome concept that i would love for a movie.
All I'd want is a Jay and Silent Bob cameo in a Green Arrow movie. Wishful thinking but I'd also love to see Kevin Smith co-write or co-produce it.
I've said it before, but I really hope the new DCU goes about structuring their universe with a pre-established structure. Obviously there's things like Star Wars or Harry Potter that've done that, but something like the latest John Wick was a great example of how you can introduce new characters who are treated as though they've always been around and have long histories with other characters. Heck a big part of conversation following that film's release was regarding how many spinoffs they could do about the characters introduced in that film alone because of how interesting they were.
I really hope we get that with this new DCU, you could have a movie about one hero that maybe features one or two others in supporting roles. I think that in skipping their origins and having them in supporting roles it allows those characters to be more defined and lived-in, a show don't tell situation regarding their beliefs and heroism since they'll have less screen time to sell it. I really feel like Green Arrow fits that role well, I mean that's basically how he was handled in JLU, I'd love to see him play off another hero first before getting his own film.
I also just think that's a smart decision for DC right now, win people over with likeable characters and create demand for them to get their own films or other projects, because let's face it there's plenty of great DC characters who are unknown to general audiences. On the one hand it would allow certain characters a greater spotlight, but even if they don't get a spinoff their mere existence in a supporting role would do a lot to build out that sense of a wider universe.
For me, the best way to introduce Green Arrow in the DC Universe franchise in the first chapter is by developing a Green Arrow live-action film based on the "Longbow Hunters" storyline from the late 1980s, alongside other characters who can appear in the film like Black Canary (Dinah Lance), Roy Harper, Wildcat (Ted Grant) and Shado.
If the new green arrow comic book doesn’t do well I will go into my room and scream into to a pillow until my voice is gone
Mr troyoboyo, from the bottom of my heart, more prewrites would be the only thing I want for Christmas.
2:25 Ok but "Arrow-plane" is genius
Ryan Johnsan directing a Green Arrow movie starring John Boyega that is a political romcom? YES YES YES YES YES!!! Never considered either, but I totally see it
I think CW’S Arrow is incredible. It’s not a one for one character adaptation but as the show goes on he became much more like his comic counterpart. Way better than many Green Arrow comic book fans say.
No one is a bigger Green Arrow fan than my uncle. Thousands of painstakingly organized, labled, read and analyzed Green Arrow comics. And he’ll give you a full explanation of any book you pick and even the memories he has with the book. The guy is dying for a film.
Green Arrow is literally my favorite superhero of all time. In large part because of the CW's Arrow series which I watched as a kid and introduced me to the character. Honestly, I love the Take on Oliver Queen that Stephen Amell and CW took, but I think James Gunn could bring an even better adaptation to the screen. I am unbelievably excited!!!
If you like mike Grell's work on long bow hunters, I would suggest getting the green arrow, long bow hunters saga omnibus vol.1 and vol. 2.
Mike wrote 80 issues after the miniseries and it's all collected in those two.
They are expensive books, but they are hard covers and in the oversized format and the best way to find all of his work on green arrow
a good green arrow movie has Oliver Queen being an explicit bottom to Black Canary... it won't work otherwise
As soon as you were describing the traits you wanted in an actor I knew it would be John Boyega. I love that fancast
L fan cast, Green Arrow is a blonde white guy.
@@MelkMan7 cope
@@samhartje723 cope with what you idiot? All you NPCs comment the same thing.
Oliver is a white guy that grew up rich, thats like making Bruce Wayne black doesn’t work and should and will fail
@@MelkMan7 not important to the character and we've had 3 live action barry allens with black hair, cope.
Great video as usual, would love to see an in-depth Prewrite.
I can't wait for this new universe bro I'm so hyped
Nice video, and I like what you did with the background 🙂👍🏹
7:30 I don’t know if John Boyega would be a good fit. Before I say this, I want to be clear that I don’t really care race swapped casting in general. However, you yourself explained how Green Arrow is about Oliver learning that he benefitted from the system that hurts so many people and turning it around. I just feel like that story would fall a little flat if it wasn’t played by a white guy. Sure, money and power often lessen the troubles people experience based on their race; to quite a high degree I might add. However, the oppressive nature of the system js still present no matter how influential they are.
So, having a black man play Oliver means that he would already know about the system and what it does, he and his people are effected by it, despite his wealth and power. A rich, cis, straight passing, white man doesn’t get fucked by society, hence why Oliver has to learn not only why the system sucks, but that it does in the first place.
John Boyega as Green Arrow could actually be insane!!!
Not a good choice. Effects the character greatly
please do the full pre-write
Cant wait fot when Oliver says its Arrowing time and then Arrows all over the place
Found vid, watched some of your other videos, now liked, subbed, and ready for that Green Arrow script.
You're doing damn good videos, keep it up!
Stumbled upon your channel today. Super happy I did. Great vids. Especially here.
This time, they've got to do Black Cannary justice, especially after what Arrow did to her
James Gunn's Dcu needs green arrow? No, I NEED green arrow.
Kevin Smith's is my personal favorite run on the character.
I want a Green Arrow movie with Wildcat also starring in it, getting his own movie later on.
A Ryan Johnson Green Arrow movie would be so amazing. The way he dunks on the ultra wealthy would be perfect. 😅
Sounds kind of like how Marvel should use Iron Fist
This video was amazing. I'd love more Green Arrow content. And, yes, I'd love a prewrite for the Green Arrow.
Yeah I’d love to see a Green Arrow movie someday. And yeah I can picture John Boyega as Oliver Queen, he’s an underrated actor who didn’t get a lot of love as Finn and I think he’d be great in a DC movie. Now for other DC movies I’d love to see one day would be Red Hood & The Outlaws, Static Shock, a proper Green Lantern movie, and a movie adaptation of the Earth 2 comic story line and Dark Knights Metal storyline.
Would LOVE a Green Arrow pitch
Thank you for this
Imma need that prewrite chief
Casting for Green Arrow is so tricky. My ideal actor would be Dev Patel, but I can’t help but think about how much of Ollie’s whiteness informs his disconnect from his wealth and privilege before he makes that change. Curious what you think!
I see that argument a lot and I get that perspective, I just don't think I've ever read a story where Ollie's whiteness is specifically focused on as a source of his privilege. It of course is, and if a movie were to tell that story I would be really interested in it and be all in, but I think that the class privilege is told about more. And there could be something interesting where the Queens think that they're above the flaws in the system from their wealth, but still become victims to it, and that could sort of kickstart Ollie's journey more.
Again, I totally get the argument (more than any other character tbh) but imo it's not the most 100% necessary thing on the planet and would rather they find someone who could rock the post-change Ollie mindset. Whether that's Boyega or someone else, it's all cool with me as long as it's not Charlie fucking Hunnam lol
@@troyoboyo17 totally agree that it doesn’t have to play a big part at all. As long as it isn’t Hunnam, I think the actual fans should be happy in Gunn’s hands!
@@troyoboyo17 mine should stay stephen amell i think he is a really good fit for this role he was just the victim of bad writing
Matt Barr?
@@troyoboyo17troyo please make a static shock pitch
Green Arrow pre-write would be awesome
I like the inclusion of an actor who can portray the character both on, and off screen. Like when Andrew Garfield went around New York in his Spider-man costume to play basketball with some kids. That's pure Spider-man right there.
Now imagine at the next big protest that shocks the country, we see the literal Green Arrow fighting with us for our freedoms. I think that's something we need more of right now. The world needs more heroes.
And please do a pre-write of a Green Arrow film. I'm excited to see the ideas you bring to the table.
Please do a pre-write of a Green Arrow movie. I love your unique takes on possible movies that such a rich & effective story!
I really like the lofi in the background
Great video! I really like this idea and how you expressed it, would love to see you talk more about the character like you said, theres not much GA content really lol
I would LOVE to hear your pitches on DC projects
i had never really thought of green arrow casting because he seems so difficult to capture but i could absolutely see your pick
Love the connection with the Shakespeare quote
Troy! Where did all of your videos go?? I was about to go back to some older content (your How to Fix Arrow video specifically) and they aren’t there! Those were such good videos and those are the videos that made me a fanboy of this channel. Hoping to see them up again soon! 🤘🖤
I was thinking about it and I decided that it would be better for my chances in the algorithm to only keep videos that A) are super recent or B) I'm super super proud of, so a lot of those older smaller videos I'm not as happy with anymore so I unlisted them. And the Arrow video specifically I feel like I was kind of mean spirited about everything and I don't really love that, especially since the show has been over at this point, so I unlisted that as well. But everything is still available in the playlists on my channel page, so you should still be able to find it.
@@troyoboyo17 Thanks for the response man. I really appreciate that. You’re a huge inspiration of mine and got me into content creation myself. My channel is doing really well and I can see it getting big! Thanks Mr. Boyo17 🙏
I’d be down for a pre write I loved your Spider-Man trilogy
Admittedly, the only exposure I’ve had to Green Arrow is Injustice 2 and the first two volumes of the Kevin Smith run, but even from those fragments, I’m interested in seeing a DCU interpretation of Green Arrow (or yours, Troyo).
I love that you green lit your room.💚
My problem if you put Ryan Johnson as the director is that he isn’t a fan of the source material. When it comes to movies, he’s the type of creator, who would just want to do his own thing. For an outside property that is very exciting, but I don’t want him to screw up Green Arrow for his vision of the story. Also if you wanna cast John Boyega, I don’t know if the two are on the best terms.
Troy making the best points as always
YES! I've been waiting for this video for so long! Green Arrow and Troyoboyo17 is the perfect mash-up.
i love the john boyega fan casting
Love how crazy onemotapeia is and he'd be awesome in a movie.
Also I love the romcom idea would be hilarious if they really ham it up in the trailers
Green Arrow like Batman having no powers my favorite line from any version of Oliver is in justice league unlimited when he says “ Batman told me to make sure you guys stay in line” or something regarding those lines when Superman wants to attack Cadmus for having a weapon to stop the league, with both of them not having any powers he and Bruce are MORE able to connect with the people of earth and be see how some people see them as a “threat” so having Green Arrow in the type of role to also keep the league in check is how Oliver should always be
John boyega is my fancast for bronze tiger
whered you get that shirt? its dope
As soon as you mentioned directors that hate billionaires and could write it, i thought Arian Johnson
Ima need you to do that prewrite
asap
great video very much enjoyed and it got me interested in green arrow comics
God, how are you so good at making me love characters I never gave a second look??
This video alone makes me wanna obsess over Green Arrow
1) Thank you for the attention to my favorite superhero! I’ve been hoping for a Green Arrow movie for decades, and I’m glad James Gunn is in charge now because the chances of it are HIGH.
2) I watched Poker Face and loved it.
Great video as usual, but also. Why did the advert make you read a poem?
Oh my the little man in the ad transition is so uncanny 💀
y tf is this so underrated what, needs way more views
I would love to see a prewrite of this movie!!
Love the video. More Green Arrow focused stuff for sure. I love it
2 videos in a week, Keep up the good work Troy. Cant wait for the next upload. Also Vinland Saga is great
Charlie Hunnam as Green Arrow is the same as John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic lol
I'd say it's worse imo
"You have failed this city" boi I want my arrows who can't keep a secret identity. Please 🙏🙏
Do the prewrite. Do it BOY!
been waiting for this one.
I need Charlie hunnam as Oliver queen, AND yes I want your prewrite version of the script.
Bro you’ve been cookin fr 😭
Ohhhh shoot, a Rian Johnson Green Arrow flick actually makes so much sense. Gonna be thinking about that for a bit