Quite literally, as shown by Shallan's few attempts to Soulcast in Stromlight. Makes me laugh thinking about Jasnah using the power to write using fire, imagining her individually convincing every bit of air or paper to become fire individually (or just them continuously responding "as you wish").
An augur was a roman priest who could view the future and important omens. It’s as simple as that. The word related to ”inauguration”, where the emperor/president is blessed with a fortunate reign/term
@@TheCosmerenaut To which? Auger or august? Or do you mean from Au to Aura? Definitely yes to the second one, that is one of the metals named after the latin name, like how Silver is Ag for Argent. Though I appreciate your Miles joke.
@@TheCosmerenaut Actually, the root for augur (an actual official title in Rome; the holder of this office had the job of interpreting the future through various signs and portents) is debated. One theory is that the root is the same as august/Augustus, which would be "aug," proto-indo-european word meaning, "to increase." But the more popular theory is that it's actually a combination of the Latin for bird, "avis," and one of two other possible Latin words, "garrire," meaning to chirp or talk like a bird or "gero" which means to carry/bear or possess the trait of. Because watching flights of birds was one of the more popular methods for divining the future.
The chemical symbol for Gold is AU which comes from the original name for gold which was Auron. This is probably where the name for "AU"gers comes from, I think.
The Kelsier bar spinning bit I think is closer to what Wax does in era two against the creepy sadistic Terris boy. When he see’s the separate parts of the bullet due to him perceiving it as three separate pieces of metal. While the bar was one metal, Kelsier was able to perceive the object as a whole rather than its center of self, allowing him to manipulate it at a different point. If I recall, I believe it even makes notes to say that he pushed on it off center.
Yeah, I believe it says he's able to push on one end and pull on the other, so there must be some Wax-y type stuff going on. I was more referring to him spinning it around himself, which would be easier with the full leverage of his torso rather than just his stomach.
Read And Find Out oh I gotcha! That makes more sense now! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Love love love your channel! Keep up the great work! Would love it if you made a straight up theory video about things in the Cosmere.
@@TheCosmerenaut hemalurgy is potentially the most investiture magic system Brandon have created... That's Assuming the spikes could steal other investiture powers like surge binding. Please address if this is possible in your coming video! Also we should campaign for a reboot of original mistborn with Vin having access to all 16 metals. Just a thought
Oh yeah, hemalurgy is going to have cosmere-wide impact. It's one of the few magic systems that doesn't have *any* location restrictions, so literally *anyone* could use it with the right knowledge. It's possible to steal a spren bond with hemalurgy, but the spren has influence on that too so it might not work too well.
@@TheCosmerenaut It's also the most inherently unethical power in the Cosmere (maybe alongside creepy things like the Dakhor, but those are location-bound to Sel), so it's perfect to give an edge to bad guys.
Isn't that the light refraction one? I'm fairly certain that there's a WOB saying the redirection of projectiles is random, or at least chaotic in the mathematical sense.
On the surface it would seem like Snell's law could apply, but Brandon has specifically stated that objects trajectories are randomly affected, and that there wouldn't be a way to reliably calculate it predict them once passing through a bubble.
Thank you so much for your laid back informative style. I love Sanderson but it’s a lot and these videos help me sort through it all. Currently rereading Stormlight A. but look forward to going back through Mistborn soon. I get to missing certain characters so much.
Augur as a fortune teller does come from the Romans, but not from August. An augur was an ornithomancer, or someone who reads birds' flight patterns to divine the wills of gods.
Threnody: Colonial America with ghosts. Nalthis: the Inca with life force sacrifices instead of hearts. Taldain: Africa, with the Sahara on one side of the planet and everything else on the other side.
9:43 Wouldn't it be because bending time also bends space, at least some? Kind of like light refraction, just with physical matter rather than light, and warped space rather than altered particle density/transparency.
Hey man you’re a new dad and have your priorities straight, I’m not mad about it but will always be eagerly awaiting more content. Keep being the best Steve you can be
The way I'd imagine the bubbles is that the spear touches the bubble, and stretches it. The moment the bubble breaks to let the spear out (immediately resealing itself) is the point that the spear enters normal time
Important note - the time bubble is tied to a cognitive item as well. Like, if you on a ship in movement or something - the bubble will contain the ship and everything above it.
if the spear becomes slow partway out of the speed bubble, than part of the spear is still physically within the bubble right? How would someone inside interact with the spear shaft left inside the bubble.
There'd be the back half a spear sticking in the bubble that they can't move. The moment it considers itself out, whatever is still in would just become an obstruction.
If a mistborn swore the oaths of a knight radiant, turned their shard-blade into a little ball, swallowed and burned it, do you think that it would kill the spren? Also, I wonder if they could somehow alloy shard-blade metal with Lerasium if that would permanently turn them into a surge-binder, but with no shards.
I doubt it would harm the spren. More likely it would just act like dismissing the blade and not do anything. It's also been asked what would happen if a mistborn burned shardblade metal: wob.coppermind.net/events/402/#e13315 I'm not sure what effect alloying it with lerasium would do.
8:55 How would the mechanics of this work? Speed bubbles can't move, right? You'd need the allomancer to be constantly dropping and re-making the bubble to get anywhere. Or maybe the Identity mechanics in era 2 allow for some kinda manipulation of that where you can produce a mobile speed bubble. At that point tho, why? Surely it should be Bendalloy that has this application. Even with just an allomancer running, you'd get a lot of speed out of making a bubble, running to the edge of it in what is, from an outside perspective, super speed, and then re-making the bubble. Applying this to a mobile ship would be interesting. If it travels a given distance, from the crew's perspective, they went at normal speed and took the expected long ass amount of time to get to the other end of a nebula. But from the outside, their journey was much quicker. And then wait, Cadmium would do the opposite, meaning you have two versions of FTL. One that actually moves faster than light from the outside, but would take ages for the people on the ship. And another that will take a long ass time from the outside, but be real quick for the crew. The former would be great for fast travel, but be super expensive. You'd have to feed and house a crew working presumably round the clock for a long time. The latter would be about as fast as conventional spaceships are by this point, but would be much cheaper from a crew perspective, as you only need to provide enough to last them a few moments inside the bubble. Edit: Just remembered that applying allomantic effects to objects is 100% a thing we see done in era 2. Edit 2: Cadmium would also be effective for transporting large stores of food without having to worry about spoiling, because from the food's perspective, the travel time is much shorter. All of this means we should eventually get some insight into the more scientific side of these metals, like the exact ratio of time within a speed bubble vs outside that bubble.
If anchored to a sufficiently large object, the speed bubbles would move with it. We see this in BoM on the train. And if there were two bubbles, a small cadmium bubble inside a large bendalloy (I think), both the actual and perceived travel time would be minimized.
Augur comes from Augury actually. It was a form of "magical" divination used to see both the past and the future by reading changes in the health (or damages) in the intestinal lining of animals raised specifically for the purpose. This weirdly implies that this may have been a practice performed in pre-ascension religions just as it was a common practice in both the Helenistic, Ptolmeic/Egyptian, and Babylonian religions of our world.
You didn’t even touch on the moment when Wax saw the steel line on a bullet split into three, pointing to the various parts of the bullet rather than the bullet as a whole! Intent and Perception!!!
Okay interestingly i've just finished the lost metal and whilst watching this video made me remember a specific scene where Wax reaches just his finger tips out so that they are inside Waynes speed bubble as he raises it. He explains in the book that as long as any part of the body is touching the speed bubble then the whole body is effected by the time dilation. But that kind of doesn't line up for me with the whole cognitive center being the point of transition. Surely Waxs cognitive center is not in his fingers?
Yeah, it seems they changed how that works in Lost Metal. Or else my theory was just wrong and it has a lot more to do with Perception rather than Identity.
Fantastic as always. I think most time stuff is spiritually-based, not cognitively, personally. Also, I wouldn't necessarily phrase it as, the way the spear thinks of itself. I think the cognitive aspect of things is shaped more by what people think about spears as a whole or that spear in particular than the self-awareness of the spear. What was the thing Brandon canonized at Starsight premiere?
That makes sense, though we also have to consider Stick, who may never have interacted with humanity directly before but still had at least a rudimentary self-awareness. Brandon canonized the "center of self" concept in relation to steel lines, and the fact that they can change. wob.coppermind.net/events/402/#e13373
I have a question about savantism; when you become a savant, you increase your strength with magic you are using, but does it continue to grow over time, or do you simply get a small initial increase of power, but then none extra after that?
I don't think strength increases as much as control. Being more familiar with using the metal, simply because of a huge amount of experience, naturally enables you to do more intricate things.
Huh. I always thought that the overuse of investiture would strengthen the connection between the user and the shard, allowing the individual to access the investiture of that shard more easily, essentially allowing a misting or mistborn to burn metal at a faster rate and therefore getting more investiture than before. Although, if this were the case, then scadriens would likely figured out awhile ago that they could become more powerful if they just kept burning metal.
What if you have someone burning cadmium who then burnt duralumim (97% sure I misspelt it) would they just have a very large bubble for a "short" time or would it speed up time outside the bubble (relative to inside it) to a much higher rate yet have the time relative to the person in the bubble happen nearly instantly since their reserves disappear For example at the end of the first second era book the one girl is burning cadmium but there was still enough time inside the bubble for wayne to get beat pretty badly but if she someone burned the other metal (or perhaps got a nicro burst) could the authorities have arrived even quicker relative to the people inside the bubble
Yeah, I think the speed within the bubble would increase/decrease accordingly. That's what happens when Wayne flares his bendalloy, so it would make sense.
Well you center of mass shift around based on fat distribution, limb length relative to body length. But the big question is, what other metal can be used? Can uranium speed up nuclear decay? What counts as a metal, is calcium or lithium a metal?
That thing about never being in both has some real craxy implications when you consider swords. Sure, they're not very common on Scadrial, but if you have a longsword in a bendalloy-bubble, you can probably get quite a bit of the blade out of it so that it's still in the bubble. Now if you slash in that way, it'd be incredibly fast. Maybe sound barrier breaking? Speaking of swords and speed bubbles, it has to be brought up: Nightblood. Could Nightblood pop a speed bubble by just cutting at the bubble? Let's say the Allomancer making it is lying on the floor for this scenario and you're doing a horizontal swing so you won't accidentally hit them.
Brandon has said that the bubble sort of stretches around things that poke out of it, so theoretically it would be surrounded by the same "time" as the inside of the bubble. Though you could probably use that technique to bust some heads. In regards to Nightblood, I think of he were to come in contact with a speed bubble he would absorb the investiture and force the Allomancer to burn through their metal, or else yeah, just pop it. Most questions involving Nightblood just get RAFO'd, but I feel confident we could actually see this one happen.
at 7.13 my theory is that "Augurs" are more likely a reference to the roman prophets of the same name, who did ceremonies and sacrifices in attempt to divine the future and/or fortunes. it could be simply a reference to seeing into the future, or as i would like to believe, a cheeky meta-commentary about how the roman augurs didnt see anything true or of any value
One of my favorite things about Sanderson's books it that the magic systems all have rules, and everyone (hero or villain) follows them. There are in universe explanations for why Vin could pierce copperclouds, or why the Lord Ruler was so powerful. Compare that to the Force in Star Wars or magic in the Harry Potter franchises (full disclosure, I love both of those), where there are no real rules. Or at best the rules are vague and broken.
Sanderson specializes in hard magic systems, bound by rules. You should read about Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic on his website where he talks about the different uses of different magic systems in literature. Which reminds me, I need to make a video about Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic on his website where he talks about the different uses of different magic systems in literature.
I just had a thought that has never crossed my mind before. How would tin affect someone who needs glasses? And to go a bit further, how would it affect someone that is completely blind or deaf? Would it fix these issues or would it just function weirdly? I'll add it to the pile of questions I'll probably never get to ask Brandon.
I just checked the WoB Archive and am surprised nobody's asked that before! My suspicion is that tin would help a person with glasses, but would't fix blindness or deafness. Though it's entirely possible that something wierd could happen.
Just a thought. If you asked me to point at "myself" I would actually point at my head. I mean if I touch my nose it feels sort of "in front of me". While if I touch my chin it feels "below me" in a sense. My centre is just behind my eyes. Of course in older cultures the heart was considered to be the centre of self so it makes sense for that to be where the lines from for Kelsier or Vin. But does it mean for someone else who viewed their centre different the lines would go elsewhere? Like would the lines go to my head because that is how I view the centre of myself? Also I hope that there is a separate video for each of the arts, and then one for the interplay between them. Would be awesome
I actually asked Brandon about that at the Starsight release! He said it's possible for steel lines to change where they point, so it's totally possible that for you they would point to your head!
There's a scene in 6 Underground on Netflix that looks just like a Duralumin Steelpush to my headcanon. They use magnets to do it, but still, I was fist-pumping my Mistborn mania there.😀
if you have a spear and the spear head breaks and you replace it. Then later, the spear shaft breaks and you replace it. Is it the same spear with the same cognitive self?
Damn, dude, amazing video. So much. And, well, i still waiting one of hemalurgy. The most (in my opinion) great Art. I think what Ruin was won; I say, Ruin have much logic; a little crazy and phsicotic, but logic to the end xD Don't arrest me, i'm not crazy (? Well, like and waiting another video... and sorry for my bad english xD
Ha Ha Ha, Ruin was here LOL. I'm sorry. And I have a question, I read somewhere that Atium and Lerasium had alloys of their own, is that cannon? Because that could explain a lot to me.
Atium definitely has alloys - that's what the 11th Metal was. Brandon has said that it would be possible to make alloys of Lerasium which would (theoretically) turn the person who burned it into a misting of the alloyed metal, but we haven't seen that on screen yet.
That means a Japanese using allomancy would probably attract metallic objects to his or her... nose. Japanese point to their nose to designate themselves.
Bend Alloy Not bendaloy It's written as one word but treat it like two. Fun fact, it is indeed a real thing. Quite a complicated alloy actually. Reading the audiobooks is very helpful if you want to figure out how things like this and Duralumin are said.
One thing I never got was how Kelsier was able to spin those bars. How can he be pulling/pushing on diferent ends of a single piece of metal? Surely he can only push/pull on its cognitive center, just as he can't push/pull from his own toes or scalp.
Put simply, Kelsier was *really* good. There's some cognitive gymnastics in it, but because Allomancy isn't strictly magnetism it can get away with some more interesting things.
@@ChocolatierRob He didn't push the center of self of the entire bar, but the center of self of a portion of the bar. Say you have a plane made out of metal. You can push the center of self of the entire plane, or you can push on the center of self of a wing, or you can push on the center of self of a nail, or the center of self of the tip of the nail. How deep you can go and how you can affect individual parts simply depends on your Connection. This is why, on Era 2, Wax could push on individual bits of a bullet and make it shoot, instead of pushing on the whole bullet and gaining nothing.
Juan Pablo Ossa Zapata but those are individual components of a greater whole, they were once separate and so can have an independent cognitive identity but a bar from a cage does not have individual pieces to it, it is a single simple piece of metal.
Wait so if an alloy of atium and gold can be made then does that mean that theres like... 15 OTHER atium-normal-metal alloys out there with their own powers? And what about other god metals?
Greetings. Hopefully, you or someone else will see this comment. I am doing my MA on Theoretical Linguistics, and I am currently analyzing fantasy words. I am trying to find online how "Allomancy" is pronounced. I noticed, if I heard correctly, that you use an preantepenultimate stress, meaning on the first /a/? Thank you!
@@TheCosmerenaut Thank you, thank you. I've already submitted the assignment, but at least I know I put this information correctly. I'm Greek and English isn't my native language, so I wasn't sure.
Read And Find Out ....... lots of people talk , share memes and things like that on discord..... Im on a couple youtubers discords allways busy...... you would do great where you deal with the cosmere . You would have a lot of people discussing and sharing .
Most westerners consider their self to be in the head, where most easterners consider their self to be in the heart. To us westerners, we often think of the self in the head like its controlling the rest of the body like its a megazord of sorts. So, a cognitive self in the cosmere, presumably, would depend on the culture that person comes from.
We all know Brandon writes his books in a speed bubble. 🙂
It's the *only* possible explanation!
It's the only thing that makes sense.
Now I just need some Cadmium as I wait for the SA 4 release next year
For real!
Don't forget his hemalurgic spikes of speed
*objects in the Cosmere have self awareness*
“I am a stick!!”
Quite literally, as shown by Shallan's few attempts to Soulcast in Stromlight. Makes me laugh thinking about Jasnah using the power to write using fire, imagining her individually convincing every bit of air or paper to become fire individually (or just them continuously responding "as you wish").
Jasnah's just got such an overwhelming personality that nature itself bows to her whims.
"Oh no, not again."
Now I feel so bad for every coin every coinshot has shot.
An augur was a roman priest who could view the future and important omens. It’s as simple as that. The word related to ”inauguration”, where the emperor/president is blessed with a fortunate reign/term
Ooh, I never connected those two words before!
Okay I´m convinced
Brandon is a World Hopper and all of his magic systems come from real parallel dimensions
I don't see any way to refute that.
"You might be able to get some Miles out of that second definition."
Brilliant.
Glad someone got it!
“And men who can’t burn any metals are called “Mister.”” When that finally *clicked* I had to stop and laugh #DadJokes 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, I was confused for a second like "wait, is there another category I didn't know about?!" Haha
Proud of that one. :)
That made me laugh way harder than I expected.
You know, if Kelsier had a vial of Atium and also had Nightblood, I'm pretty sure that Odium would be shattered within the week.
Honestly, I'm not sure Kel would be able to draw Nightblood safely. But if so, yeah he'd be scary.
@@TheCosmerenaut True. I suppose it depends on if he believes himself to be a good person or not. Based on how he views Marsh, I'd say he doesn't.
Exactly.
It's "augur" not "auger" augur is a mildly archaic term for someone who tells the future.
Plus the phonetic connection to aura, the latin root of gold.
This is true. Totally blanked on the periodic symbol for gold. Same basic root though, right?
@@TheCosmerenaut To which? Auger or august? Or do you mean from Au to Aura? Definitely yes to the second one, that is one of the metals named after the latin name, like how Silver is Ag for Argent.
Though I appreciate your Miles joke.
@@TheCosmerenaut Actually, the root for augur (an actual official title in Rome; the holder of this office had the job of interpreting the future through various signs and portents) is debated. One theory is that the root is the same as august/Augustus, which would be "aug," proto-indo-european word meaning, "to increase." But the more popular theory is that it's actually a combination of the Latin for bird, "avis," and one of two other possible Latin words, "garrire," meaning to chirp or talk like a bird or "gero" which means to carry/bear or possess the trait of. Because watching flights of birds was one of the more popular methods for divining the future.
The periodic table Au stands for Aurum, not Aura
This video make my little nerd heart so happy! And now I need to go reread Mistborn....
Be fair. You *always* need to go reread Mistborn.
so when a person considers themselves to be their brain, would that person's allomantic lines start pointing to their head instead?
Possibly!
lovely to have you back Steve! Video was awesome, can't wait for your ones about the other two arts.
I'm pretty excited for them. :)
The chemical symbol for Gold is AU which comes from the original name for gold which was Auron. This is probably where the name for "AU"gers comes from, I think.
This is correct.
Thanks to Steve and RAFO the internet became a better place today.
Thanks Steve. I Can't wait for more Metallic Arts videos.
:D My pleasure!
The Kelsier bar spinning bit I think is closer to what Wax does in era two against the creepy sadistic Terris boy. When he see’s the separate parts of the bullet due to him perceiving it as three separate pieces of metal. While the bar was one metal, Kelsier was able to perceive the object as a whole rather than its center of self, allowing him to manipulate it at a different point. If I recall, I believe it even makes notes to say that he pushed on it off center.
Yeah, I believe it says he's able to push on one end and pull on the other, so there must be some Wax-y type stuff going on. I was more referring to him spinning it around himself, which would be easier with the full leverage of his torso rather than just his stomach.
Read And Find Out oh I gotcha! That makes more sense now! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Love love love your channel! Keep up the great work! Would love it if you made a straight up theory video about things in the Cosmere.
This channel is so... Informative! Looking forward to that hemalurgy video @rafo
It's gonna be good!
@@TheCosmerenaut hemalurgy is potentially the most investiture magic system Brandon have created... That's Assuming the spikes could steal other investiture powers like surge binding. Please address if this is possible in your coming video! Also we should campaign for a reboot of original mistborn with Vin having access to all 16 metals. Just a thought
Oh yeah, hemalurgy is going to have cosmere-wide impact. It's one of the few magic systems that doesn't have *any* location restrictions, so literally *anyone* could use it with the right knowledge.
It's possible to steal a spren bond with hemalurgy, but the spren has influence on that too so it might not work too well.
@@TheCosmerenaut It's also the most inherently unethical power in the Cosmere (maybe alongside creepy things like the Dakhor, but those are location-bound to Sel), so it's perfect to give an edge to bad guys.
When Elland Duralumin burst Atium and saw EVERYTHING
"My God, it's full of stars!"
“Men who can use any are called Mister” #DadJokes
Cos mere-ly any other humor just won't do!
Best metalic arts video on youtube?
Is that a question? Umm... Yes.
You could apply Snell's law to speed bubbles.
Isn't that the light refraction one? I'm fairly certain that there's a WOB saying the redirection of projectiles is random, or at least chaotic in the mathematical sense.
On the surface it would seem like Snell's law could apply, but Brandon has specifically stated that objects trajectories are randomly affected, and that there wouldn't be a way to reliably calculate it predict them once passing through a bubble.
Thank you so much for your laid back informative style. I love Sanderson but it’s a lot and these videos help me sort through it all. Currently rereading Stormlight A. but look forward to going back through Mistborn soon. I get to missing certain characters so much.
You're welcome! I'm glad they're helpful!
“Not that spear our theoretical spear” Christ man hitting where it hurts all these years later
3:37 "almost supernatural"
Great video BTW
Thanks!
Augur as a fortune teller does come from the Romans, but not from August. An augur was an ornithomancer, or someone who reads birds' flight patterns to divine the wills of gods.
That's exactly correct. I think the Roman Augur and August have the same root though.
@@TheCosmerenaut You seem to be right there, I searched some and etymonline at least says the name Augustus might've come from the word augur.
"France but with volcanoes"
Well what does that make Roshar? "India with crabs?"
...
Yes.
@@TheCosmerenaut Then what are the other over simplifications of the Cosmere world?
Threnody: Colonial America with ghosts.
Nalthis: the Inca with life force sacrifices instead of hearts.
Taldain: Africa, with the Sahara on one side of the planet and everything else on the other side.
1st of the Sun: Polynesia but with *more* birds
Sel: A carbon copy Norway (magic and all) that might border Asia?
9:43 Wouldn't it be because bending time also bends space, at least some? Kind of like light refraction, just with physical matter rather than light, and warped space rather than altered particle density/transparency.
That makes sense too!
Me after reading Mistborn: Haha Atium go Wrum!
This guy: Starting schooling me with physics
love it
I do my research. :)
He’s back!!
Sorry! I fell down a particularly deep Cosmere rabbit hole...
Hey man you’re a new dad and have your priorities straight, I’m not mad about it but will always be eagerly awaiting more content. Keep being the best Steve you can be
Auger is another word for soothsayer so that's probably where the name for gold mistings comes from
With a sneaky reference to the elemental symbol built in.
I’ve somewhat enjoyed sanderson books...but now I appreciate and understand them better...making me enjoy it on another level. Thanks for channel
Happy to help! :D
Man I really wish you made more videos. They're amazing and I always want more lol
Thanks! I wish I made more videos too... Got some coming soon!
an "Augur" is another type of fortune teller, one who practices augury
The way I'd imagine the bubbles is that the spear touches the bubble, and stretches it. The moment the bubble breaks to let the spear out (immediately resealing itself) is the point that the spear enters normal time
That's a great visualization.
“No, the example spear”
It’s been four years and it’s still too soon
That's how I feel about Wash. Always too soon.
Or you know AUgur which AU is the periodic tables symbol for gold.
Yep, someone pointed that out to me on Reddit. Can't believe I blanked that hard.
Read And Find Out it happens to the best of us
Important note - the time bubble is tied to a cognitive item as well.
Like, if you on a ship in movement or something - the bubble will contain the ship and everything above it.
If the bubble was big enough it could include the ship, but either way it would move with it. You're right.
if the spear becomes slow partway out of the speed bubble, than part of the spear is still physically within the bubble right? How would someone inside interact with the spear shaft left inside the bubble.
There'd be the back half a spear sticking in the bubble that they can't move. The moment it considers itself out, whatever is still in would just become an obstruction.
If a mistborn swore the oaths of a knight radiant, turned their shard-blade into a little ball, swallowed and burned it, do you think that it would kill the spren? Also, I wonder if they could somehow alloy shard-blade metal with Lerasium if that would permanently turn them into a surge-binder, but with no shards.
I doubt it would harm the spren. More likely it would just act like dismissing the blade and not do anything.
It's also been asked what would happen if a mistborn burned shardblade metal: wob.coppermind.net/events/402/#e13315
I'm not sure what effect alloying it with lerasium would do.
*Cough*What about The Mists? *Cough*
The mists are a major exception. But a valid point.
"Men who can't use any metals are called mister"
That was... well played
Of all the jokes on my videos, I think I'm most proud of that one.
Nice work man
Thanks!
"thinking about that spear- no, the example spear"
bruh
Just have to make sure I'm being clear.
Hi why I love this channel so much help
It's not brainwashing if people do it willingly, right?
Yes.
Definitely.
@@TheCosmerenaut 12:26 So if everyone have their own cognitive center. What if someone can change his cognitive center at will?
I remember a video where you predicted autonomy was the red mists around scadriel, which one is that?
I just dug around all my previous scripts and couldn't find it! But yeah, I know I said that somewhere.
This guy is good! I'm glad I found this channel.
Welcome aboard!
Can i read Mistborn era 2 without reading era 1?
8:55 How would the mechanics of this work? Speed bubbles can't move, right? You'd need the allomancer to be constantly dropping and re-making the bubble to get anywhere. Or maybe the Identity mechanics in era 2 allow for some kinda manipulation of that where you can produce a mobile speed bubble.
At that point tho, why? Surely it should be Bendalloy that has this application. Even with just an allomancer running, you'd get a lot of speed out of making a bubble, running to the edge of it in what is, from an outside perspective, super speed, and then re-making the bubble.
Applying this to a mobile ship would be interesting. If it travels a given distance, from the crew's perspective, they went at normal speed and took the expected long ass amount of time to get to the other end of a nebula. But from the outside, their journey was much quicker.
And then wait, Cadmium would do the opposite, meaning you have two versions of FTL. One that actually moves faster than light from the outside, but would take ages for the people on the ship. And another that will take a long ass time from the outside, but be real quick for the crew. The former would be great for fast travel, but be super expensive. You'd have to feed and house a crew working presumably round the clock for a long time. The latter would be about as fast as conventional spaceships are by this point, but would be much cheaper from a crew perspective, as you only need to provide enough to last them a few moments inside the bubble.
Edit: Just remembered that applying allomantic effects to objects is 100% a thing we see done in era 2.
Edit 2: Cadmium would also be effective for transporting large stores of food without having to worry about spoiling, because from the food's perspective, the travel time is much shorter.
All of this means we should eventually get some insight into the more scientific side of these metals, like the exact ratio of time within a speed bubble vs outside that bubble.
If anchored to a sufficiently large object, the speed bubbles would move with it. We see this in BoM on the train. And if there were two bubbles, a small cadmium bubble inside a large bendalloy (I think), both the actual and perceived travel time would be minimized.
Augur comes from Augury actually. It was a form of "magical" divination used to see both the past and the future by reading changes in the health (or damages) in the intestinal lining of animals raised specifically for the purpose. This weirdly implies that this may have been a practice performed in pre-ascension religions just as it was a common practice in both the Helenistic, Ptolmeic/Egyptian, and Babylonian religions of our world.
Yup, didn't realize that until after I uploaded this video. Though I hadn't considered the etymological implications on pre-ascension Scadrial!
You didn’t even touch on the moment when Wax saw the steel line on a bullet split into three, pointing to the various parts of the bullet rather than the bullet as a whole! Intent and Perception!!!
That's a great example! I avoided it in the video simply to limit spoilers.
Awesome video!
Thank you!
Okay interestingly i've just finished the lost metal and whilst watching this video made me remember a specific scene where Wax reaches just his finger tips out so that they are inside Waynes speed bubble as he raises it. He explains in the book that as long as any part of the body is touching the speed bubble then the whole body is effected by the time dilation.
But that kind of doesn't line up for me with the whole cognitive center being the point of transition. Surely Waxs cognitive center is not in his fingers?
Yeah, it seems they changed how that works in Lost Metal. Or else my theory was just wrong and it has a lot more to do with Perception rather than Identity.
Fantastic as always.
I think most time stuff is spiritually-based, not cognitively, personally.
Also, I wouldn't necessarily phrase it as, the way the spear thinks of itself. I think the cognitive aspect of things is shaped more by what people think about spears as a whole or that spear in particular than the self-awareness of the spear.
What was the thing Brandon canonized at Starsight premiere?
That makes sense, though we also have to consider Stick, who may never have interacted with humanity directly before but still had at least a rudimentary self-awareness.
Brandon canonized the "center of self" concept in relation to steel lines, and the fact that they can change.
wob.coppermind.net/events/402/#e13373
hope the baby is doing good :)
Thank you! Baby's doing adorably. He's really taken to the family bridge runs.
OK… I laughed way too hard at that Miles joke 🤣
It's a subtle one!
I have a question about savantism; when you become a savant, you increase your strength with magic you are using, but does it continue to grow over time, or do you simply get a small initial increase of power, but then none extra after that?
I don't think strength increases as much as control. Being more familiar with using the metal, simply because of a huge amount of experience, naturally enables you to do more intricate things.
Huh. I always thought that the overuse of investiture would strengthen the connection between the user and the shard, allowing the individual to access the investiture of that shard more easily, essentially allowing a misting or mistborn to burn metal at a faster rate and therefore getting more investiture than before. Although, if this were the case, then scadriens would likely figured out awhile ago that they could become more powerful if they just kept burning metal.
That opening joke... 😂🤣😂🤣😂😭
Was terrible? Yeah...
@@TheCosmerenaut Naaa, even if I was a steel inquisitor I would have laughed. But I am cook and a Brando Sando fan...
*You* are the target audience for that joke!
7:20 i see what u did thar
I'm a fan of subtlety. Except for when I'm not.
I always thought Augar came from the periodic table name for gold, Au which itself comes from the latin word for gold, Aurum.
You are correct. Also related to augury, the ancient Greek method of fortune telling by bird observation.
What if you have someone burning cadmium who then burnt duralumim (97% sure I misspelt it) would they just have a very large bubble for a "short" time or would it speed up time outside the bubble (relative to inside it) to a much higher rate yet have the time relative to the person in the bubble happen nearly instantly since their reserves disappear
For example at the end of the first second era book the one girl is burning cadmium but there was still enough time inside the bubble for wayne to get beat pretty badly but if she someone burned the other metal (or perhaps got a nicro burst) could the authorities have arrived even quicker relative to the people inside the bubble
Yeah, I think the speed within the bubble would increase/decrease accordingly. That's what happens when Wayne flares his bendalloy, so it would make sense.
An augur is also a fancy word for an oracle.
Yup. It is indeed.
Well you center of mass shift around based on fat distribution, limb length relative to body length.
But the big question is, what other metal can be used? Can uranium speed up nuclear decay? What counts as a metal, is calcium or lithium a metal?
IIRC the base 16 are the only ones allomantically viable, apart from alloys with God metals.
That thing about never being in both has some real craxy implications when you consider swords. Sure, they're not very common on Scadrial, but if you have a longsword in a bendalloy-bubble, you can probably get quite a bit of the blade out of it so that it's still in the bubble. Now if you slash in that way, it'd be incredibly fast. Maybe sound barrier breaking?
Speaking of swords and speed bubbles, it has to be brought up: Nightblood. Could Nightblood pop a speed bubble by just cutting at the bubble? Let's say the Allomancer making it is lying on the floor for this scenario and you're doing a horizontal swing so you won't accidentally hit them.
Brandon has said that the bubble sort of stretches around things that poke out of it, so theoretically it would be surrounded by the same "time" as the inside of the bubble. Though you could probably use that technique to bust some heads.
In regards to Nightblood, I think of he were to come in contact with a speed bubble he would absorb the investiture and force the Allomancer to burn through their metal, or else yeah, just pop it. Most questions involving Nightblood just get RAFO'd, but I feel confident we could actually see this one happen.
Augur (the name for gold mistlings) comes from the word augur, referred to a priest of the ancient Rome that practiced the adivination.
Yup, somehow completely missed that in my research for this video!
Where is the Hemalurgy video?
On its way!
@@TheCosmerenaut Can’t wait. Great job with the channel!
Thanks! It's still coming, I promise!
at 7.13
my theory is that "Augurs" are more likely a reference to the roman prophets of the same name, who did ceremonies and sacrifices in attempt to divine the future and/or fortunes. it could be simply a reference to seeing into the future, or as i would like to believe, a cheeky meta-commentary about how the roman augurs didnt see anything true or of any value
Yup, totally missed that when I was researching this.
One of my favorite things about Sanderson's books it that the magic systems all have rules, and everyone (hero or villain) follows them. There are in universe explanations for why Vin could pierce copperclouds, or why the Lord Ruler was so powerful. Compare that to the Force in Star Wars or magic in the Harry Potter franchises (full disclosure, I love both of those), where there are no real rules. Or at best the rules are vague and broken.
Sanderson specializes in hard magic systems, bound by rules. You should read about Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic on his website where he talks about the different uses of different magic systems in literature. Which reminds me, I need to make a video about Sanderson's Three Laws of Magic on his website where he talks about the different uses of different magic systems in literature.
@@TheCosmerenaut I've watched videos on his UA-cam channel where he talks abut them.
Perfect! Hard and soft magic systems serve different functions within a story, but I agree - it's more fun to know what's going on.
Just found your channel and automatically subscribe. Loving the content
Awesome, thank you!
A spears centre of self could also be the point where it is normally carried or held when it is thrown
That's true too!
I just had a thought that has never crossed my mind before. How would tin affect someone who needs glasses? And to go a bit further, how would it affect someone that is completely blind or deaf? Would it fix these issues or would it just function weirdly? I'll add it to the pile of questions I'll probably never get to ask Brandon.
I just checked the WoB Archive and am surprised nobody's asked that before! My suspicion is that tin would help a person with glasses, but would't fix blindness or deafness. Though it's entirely possible that something wierd could happen.
Just a thought. If you asked me to point at "myself" I would actually point at my head. I mean if I touch my nose it feels sort of "in front of me". While if I touch my chin it feels "below me" in a sense. My centre is just behind my eyes.
Of course in older cultures the heart was considered to be the centre of self so it makes sense for that to be where the lines from for Kelsier or Vin. But does it mean for someone else who viewed their centre different the lines would go elsewhere? Like would the lines go to my head because that is how I view the centre of myself?
Also I hope that there is a separate video for each of the arts, and then one for the interplay between them. Would be awesome
I actually asked Brandon about that at the Starsight release! He said it's possible for steel lines to change where they point, so it's totally possible that for you they would point to your head!
Maybe future allomancers could gain more control over their perception and push from different parts of their bodies? Could be interesting
I wouldn't be surprised at all if that happened. It would make push/pull manipulation significantly easier and more nuanced.
There's a scene in 6 Underground on Netflix that looks just like a Duralumin Steelpush to my headcanon.
They use magnets to do it, but still, I was fist-pumping my Mistborn mania there.😀
Nice! I gotta check it out!
The mister joke killed me
I'm real proud of that one. :D
Make sure you buy them dice in Kickstarter. They are amazing
I got in fast enough to get the early bird bonus!
if you have a spear and the spear head breaks and you replace it. Then later, the spear shaft breaks and you replace it. Is it the same spear with the same cognitive self?
Ok Ship of Theseus.
Maybe.
Hey, do you think that you could please make a video about the Rhythms of Roshar, and the implications of humans being able to use them?
Great idea! I'll look into it!
Damn, dude, amazing video. So much. And, well, i still waiting one of hemalurgy. The most (in my opinion) great Art. I think what Ruin was won; I say, Ruin have much logic; a little crazy and phsicotic, but logic to the end xD
Don't arrest me, i'm not crazy (?
Well, like and waiting another video... and sorry for my bad english xD
Thanks! Hemalurgy definitely has the biggest impact on the rest of the Cosmere.
How the hell did I not know about this channel ? Goddammit UA-cam algorithm !
Share me with your friends!!! FIGHT THE ALGORITHM!
Ha Ha Ha, Ruin was here LOL.
I'm sorry. And I have a question, I read somewhere that Atium and Lerasium had alloys of their own, is that cannon? Because that could explain a lot to me.
Atium definitely has alloys - that's what the 11th Metal was. Brandon has said that it would be possible to make alloys of Lerasium which would (theoretically) turn the person who burned it into a misting of the alloyed metal, but we haven't seen that on screen yet.
What a great explanatory video! Steve, do you have a background in physics or just really good at doing your homework?! Either way, I applaude you.
I enjoy physics, but this was all just research. Thank you!
That means a Japanese using allomancy would probably attract metallic objects to his or her... nose. Japanese point to their nose to designate themselves.
Totally possible!
Bend Alloy
Not bendaloy
It's written as one word but treat it like two. Fun fact, it is indeed a real thing. Quite a complicated alloy actually.
Reading the audiobooks is very helpful if you want to figure out how things like this and Duralumin are said.
Yes, otherwise known as Wood's metal!
I lost it at Waxillium Steve.
I think I'm pretty.
@@TheCosmerenaut You are! And you are also a giant nerdy fanboy. 😜
Where is the hemalurgy vid bro? Been waiting a while for it...
True to my word, I'm working on it *right now.*
Coming out this afternoon!
One thing I never got was how Kelsier was able to spin those bars. How can he be pulling/pushing on diferent ends of a single piece of metal? Surely he can only push/pull on its cognitive center, just as he can't push/pull from his own toes or scalp.
ChocolateRob have you read Era 2 yet?? There’s some further explanation there.
Put simply, Kelsier was *really* good. There's some cognitive gymnastics in it, but because Allomancy isn't strictly magnetism it can get away with some more interesting things.
Daniel Sorensen I have read era 2 but clearly it’s time to read it again...
@@ChocolatierRob He didn't push the center of self of the entire bar, but the center of self of a portion of the bar.
Say you have a plane made out of metal. You can push the center of self of the entire plane, or you can push on the center of self of a wing, or you can push on the center of self of a nail, or the center of self of the tip of the nail. How deep you can go and how you can affect individual parts simply depends on your Connection.
This is why, on Era 2, Wax could push on individual bits of a bullet and make it shoot, instead of pushing on the whole bullet and gaining nothing.
Juan Pablo Ossa Zapata but those are individual components of a greater whole, they were once separate and so can have an independent cognitive identity but a bar from a cage does not have individual pieces to it, it is a single simple piece of metal.
I enjoyed seeing you at the starsight release and do you think burning a hemalurgic spike would do anything similar to burning a metal mind
Burning a spike would do some unspecified funky things: wob.coppermind.net/events/210/#e4616
Six people who watched this video are simply misters.
Or at least they're mist-aken.
Wait so if an alloy of atium and gold can be made then does that mean that theres like... 15 OTHER atium-normal-metal alloys out there with their own powers? And what about other god metals?
It gets complicated quick.
Auger no. Augury YES. It means to ask the gods a question. Its part of divination in spells especially in video games or table top rpgs.
Yup, somehow I missed that when making this.
@@TheCosmerenaut loving the content btw.
11:13 Brendan actually contradicted this hmmmmm 😅
Yup, perception changed - or at least got clarified and canonized - with Wax and Wayne.
Greetings. Hopefully, you or someone else will see this comment. I am doing my MA on Theoretical Linguistics, and I am currently analyzing fantasy words. I am trying to find online how "Allomancy" is pronounced. I noticed, if I heard correctly, that you use an preantepenultimate stress, meaning on the first /a/? Thank you!
That's correct. Primary stress on the first syllable, then maybe a secondary stress on the third syllable.
Preantepenultimate is an excellent word.
@@TheCosmerenaut Thank you, thank you. I've already submitted the assignment, but at least I know I put this information correctly. I'm Greek and English isn't my native language, so I wasn't sure.
Ah, sorry for my late reply!
loved this video
Thanks!
That's a weird way to pronounce Feruchemy.
I've always pronounced it "fair-oo-kem-ee".
Yeah, I get that a lot...
So how about that Stormlight 4 available for pre-order on Amazon? Next year's going to be a good one.
I just want all the things.
Get a discord and pateron ........ you deserve more views and subs ....... your videos are awesome
I understand Patreon, but what would a discord do for me?
Read And Find Out ....... lots of people talk , share memes and things like that on discord..... Im on a couple youtubers discords allways busy...... you would do great where you deal with the cosmere . You would have a lot of people discussing and sharing .
Read And Find Out go look up Daniel Green I was a sub when he first started and now he’s huge..... you can too . You are easily as good as him .
Just had to write that Augury was the art of seeing the future in Ancient Rome. Augurs did that. Thats why gold mistings are called augurs
Yup, totally missed that.
Most westerners consider their self to be in the head, where most easterners consider their self to be in the heart. To us westerners, we often think of the self in the head like its controlling the rest of the body like its a megazord of sorts. So, a cognitive self in the cosmere, presumably, would depend on the culture that person comes from.
Yup! I actually was able to confirm that at a book signing.
Imagine Kaladin burning Atium!
*Unlimited Power!*
TIL I'm a Mister
#ProudToBeAMister
Uh... Which were the high metals again?
The high metals back when we thought there were only 10 metals were Gold and Atium.
^Right^