All of Proto-Indo-European in less than 12 minutes

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  • @AhrkFinTey
    @AhrkFinTey 7 місяців тому +1847

    evil jan misali (uses light theme)

    • @zidanidane
      @zidanidane 7 місяців тому +63

      jan mal or whatever the word is

    • @bootmii98
      @bootmii98 7 місяців тому +75

      Jan Ike ​@@zidanidane

    • @oravlaful
      @oravlaful 7 місяців тому +11

      light mode is good

    • @jolkert
      @jolkert 7 місяців тому +16

      ​@@zidanidane
      show me the bibliography 🙄

    • @love2o9
      @love2o9 7 місяців тому +1

      Naj Ilasim

  • @franmiskovic7630
    @franmiskovic7630 7 місяців тому +1182

    PIE is the quantum physics of linguistics

    • @KostyaT
      @KostyaT 7 місяців тому +92

      No, if you're going to compare to QM, then PIE is the Hidden-Variable Theory of linguistics :P

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 7 місяців тому +49

      wait till you get to the other deep proto-languages

    • @iskanderaga-ali3353
      @iskanderaga-ali3353 7 місяців тому +3

      Then what is the equivalent of Palawa-kani?

    • @hp67c
      @hp67c 7 місяців тому +6

      I had a similar thought: I'd argue that PIE is the Particle Zoo of linguistics. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_zoo

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 7 місяців тому +16

      nothing is special about proto indo european. there are other languages family.

  • @bredmond812
    @bredmond812 7 місяців тому +256

    Me: Japanese is not an Indo European language.
    Zzineohp: I threw in Japanese for no reason.
    Me: **puts away keyboard. **...😢.

    • @gustavolopes5094
      @gustavolopes5094 10 днів тому +1

      Me: "Nothing because you threw japanese in at random"
      Him: "Nothing because I threw japanese in at random"
      I felt like Sherlock.

  • @lipamanka
    @lipamanka 7 місяців тому +696

    amazing all of your plain plosives are aspirated and your aspirated plosives sound like you're choking this is a fantastic video

    • @succadick2424
      @succadick2424 7 місяців тому

      So true

    • @jdmichal
      @jdmichal 7 місяців тому +33

      Yeah. If I remember correctly, in initial position, unvoiced stops are aspirated, and voiced stops are very close to what other languages would call a plain stop. Dr Lindsey did an excellent video on this called "Speech is really SBEECH". I'll link it in an additional comment following this one, as UA-cam likes to shadowban comments with links.

    • @jdmichal
      @jdmichal 7 місяців тому

      m.ua-cam.com/video/U37hX8NPgjQ/v-deo.html

    • @jdmichal
      @jdmichal 7 місяців тому

      m.ua-cam.com/video/U37hX8NPgjQ/v-deo.html

    • @yerkishisi
      @yerkishisi 7 місяців тому

      thats we aspirated-language people's skill issue. i speak turkic, i cant fuqing make unaspirated plain unvoiced stops

  • @andyleighton6969
    @andyleighton6969 7 місяців тому +530

    That's actually a three hour lecture in 12 minutes.

    • @hp67c
      @hp67c 7 місяців тому +35

      I'd say it's more like a three semester course sequence in 12 minutes

    • @aliqureshi9727
      @aliqureshi9727 23 дні тому

      As a Pashto speaker we have all the sounds indo European Alphabets in our language ❤

  • @valentinaaugustina
    @valentinaaugustina 8 місяців тому +1261

    wow you sure did pronounce those sounds!

    • @htwtrbg1
      @htwtrbg1 7 місяців тому +141

      That was the pronunciation of a language ever.

    • @noobguyadvanced4735
      @noobguyadvanced4735 7 місяців тому +148

      As a speaker of languages that still use the "bh", "dh" and "gh" (Hindi and Marathi), it was nothing less than an experience watching him trying to pronounce those sounds haha

    • @valentinaaugustina
      @valentinaaugustina 7 місяців тому +39

      @@noobguyadvanced4735 as someone who struggles a lot with aspirated voices stops, i feel better about myself

    • @sana-helwa-ya-jamil
      @sana-helwa-ya-jamil 7 місяців тому +43

      the guh guh GUH took me out

    • @Nous98
      @Nous98 7 місяців тому +4

      Too much

  • @birdwalkin
    @birdwalkin 7 місяців тому +679

    timeline of video
    0:00 intro
    2:40 guh guh GUH
    3:07 hhereeeeee haaaaahhh
    4:33 yuh yuh
    5:20 m()n ģ(')rh²()nts d()nģhw(') h²s
    11:30 got bored and skipped to end to hear the Dark Speech of Hell
    youre welcome

    • @livelikelokth
      @livelikelokth 7 місяців тому +36

      Thank you. This has been a real eye opener for me and my family. Because of you I have had the opportunity to do so many great things. I am now a multi millionaire and own several companies. My mental health has improved significantly. I found this comment at the right place, at the right time. Again I say: Thank you for everything birdwalkin.

    • @EvenRoyalsNeedToUrinate
      @EvenRoyalsNeedToUrinate 7 місяців тому +31

      ​@@livelikelokth this is a very touching story Sir and I don't like to be touched

    • @mosquitobight
      @mosquitobight 7 місяців тому +9

      "the neuter gender plural suffix *-egh becomes *-agh in the past tense, except when it's raining, then it becomes *-ngh, or alternately *-ngwr when used in the interrogative case during the first quarter of the Moon, except when the speaker is an elderly upper-class female, then it becomes *-ngwah..."

    • @luinerion
      @luinerion 7 місяців тому

      @@mosquitobight But in early PIE there was no /a/?

    • @cykkm
      @cykkm 7 місяців тому +5

      @@luinerion “in early PIE there was no /a/?” - probably not, phonemically. It's rare in late PIE, too.

  • @Dsamuell
    @Dsamuell 7 місяців тому +78

    This is the proof I would use anything to procrastinate homework

  • @VoidUnderTheSun
    @VoidUnderTheSun 7 місяців тому +383

    I like how in the final reconstruction you can clearly see "big"'s evolution to "mega" in later Greek.

    • @KolasName
      @KolasName 7 місяців тому +30

      and *píph₃eti turned into → beverage | beer ; *ǵʰós-tos → 'горсть' (slavic for 'a handful')

    • @flutterwind7686
      @flutterwind7686 7 місяців тому +25

      @@KolasName Also in hindi the word for "drink" is "piina" or "pyew"

    • @aarpftsz
      @aarpftsz 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@KolasNamemore like russian, or east slavic

    • @KolasName
      @KolasName 7 місяців тому +14

      @@aarpftsz you caught me, its russian/ukranian orthography. Let's add 'hrst' for Czech, 'garść' for Polish and 'гршт' for Serbian

    • @Sciller4
      @Sciller4 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@KolasNameSerbian? Boo. Gršt for Croatian.

  • @ea-nasir420
    @ea-nasir420 7 місяців тому +132

    Unfathomably impressive, dense and academic walkthrough of an extremely dry and difficult topic without being boring at any point. Best youtube recommendation I have gotten in years.

    • @Eustathe
      @Eustathe 6 місяців тому +9

      @ea-nasir420 obviously this video was made using quality copper

  • @realityisenough
    @realityisenough 7 місяців тому +400

    I gonna force my gf to watch this with me again and she wont enjoy it but she loves me

    • @w花b
      @w花b 7 місяців тому +18

      Good

    • @falkkiwiben
      @falkkiwiben 7 місяців тому +28

      True love

    • @Makaneek5060
      @Makaneek5060 7 місяців тому +23

      Remember to explain why hands are feminine.

    • @hp67c
      @hp67c 7 місяців тому +7

      ITYM she will have used to have loved me (that's the ex-dative case)

    • @garfocusalternate
      @garfocusalternate 7 місяців тому +27

      I lied. I don't have Netflix. Take your shoes off, we're learning Proto Indo-European to make learning Ancient Greek easier.

  • @notnamed3400
    @notnamed3400 7 місяців тому +166

    0:02 why did you say Gujarati with an Italian accent?

    • @spelcheak
      @spelcheak 7 місяців тому +84

      🤌🤌Ita justa sounded right🤌🤌

    • @fredriks5090
      @fredriks5090 7 місяців тому +27

      Because it sounds like Maserati

    • @mortache
      @mortache 7 місяців тому +25

      Gujaratti

    • @Tusharplays69
      @Tusharplays69 7 місяців тому +4

      Well expect for that rr. I guess it was perfect.

    • @DanilegoPlays
      @DanilegoPlays 3 місяці тому +6

      Bruno Bucciarati!

  • @magnushmann
    @magnushmann 7 місяців тому +357

    Spanish: Shows Spanish flag
    English: Shows American flag
    I know it's probably not even meant as a joke or anything, I just found it funny.

    • @adriaticvenetians
      @adriaticvenetians 7 місяців тому +15

      what's weird about using spain for spanish

    • @mr.booboo1
      @mr.booboo1 7 місяців тому +44

      @@adriaticvenetians new world vs old world flags. he's a stickler for consistency

    • @davidcoxinparis
      @davidcoxinparis 7 місяців тому +37

      @@mr.booboo1 Plus, if the narrator was gonna use any proper flag for English, he should have used a Jesus flag, cuz as all Americans know, Jesus spoke and wrote in English. That's how the King James Bible came to be. Of course. /snark/

    • @Amadis691
      @Amadis691 7 місяців тому +7

      Yeah, we Spanish speakers should find an internet logo of Spanish. The flags are so lame, there are too many Spanish-speaking countries.

    • @magnushmann
      @magnushmann 7 місяців тому +11

      @@Amadis691 I find resorting to what is the modern-day equivalent of the geographical source of the langue works sufficiently. If one wants to specify that this is a dialect from a specific country, then you can use the flag from there. This is also often done, when there are more versions of each language available in a selection screen.

  • @bca_4321
    @bca_4321 7 місяців тому +127

    I have no idea how you have so few views. Incredible video. Subscribed.

    • @scurly0792
      @scurly0792 7 місяців тому +7

      It was published 6 hours before your comment

  • @thecloudwyrm7966
    @thecloudwyrm7966 7 місяців тому +63

    Didn't expect much from a video with less than 1,000 views but this is... really good. The pacing was good, the small jokes were funny, and it was generally educationally. awesome

  • @boi905
    @boi905 3 місяці тому +7

    Your pronunciation of all the voiced aspirated stops was the highlight of this video

  • @anyalei
    @anyalei 7 місяців тому +19

    I feel a deep longing in my chest whenever i hear spoken reconstructions of PIE

  • @perrywilliams5407
    @perrywilliams5407 7 місяців тому +57

    With all those hard ejective and aspired phonemes, I gather the video ended cuz you passed out. 😆 Excellent job, and you gave it your all!

  • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
    @ToxicallyMasculinelol 7 місяців тому +5

    This video is so good. I'll recommend it to anyone who asks me about PIE. I've been reading about this language and its speakers for 2 years and barely understanding any of the linguistics, getting discouraged, and moving onto something else, but my fascination with my long-dead ancestors is stubborn so I keep coming back to it and getting overwhelmed again by the awful wikipedia articles. I learned more from this 11 minute video (finally understanding ablaut for example) than in the last 2 years combined. So many elusive concepts resolved in my head into a coherent picture. A university would be wise to hire you...

  • @shinjiikari5174
    @shinjiikari5174 7 місяців тому +29

    Me: "Yeah, I love linguistics! It's a pretty neat science."
    P.I.E.: "Hello there~"
    Me: *Screams in Euskara*

  • @JohnSmith-of2gu
    @JohnSmith-of2gu 7 місяців тому +106

    6:12 I love that diagram! In general I like it when the progression of a word/phrase from PIE to a modern language has the phenomenon that caused the change clearly explained. All too often people just show each stage without commentary so the progression of the language looks like a series of entirely arbitrary changes to someone without linguistics training. Aside from that, that thing about most word roots not being usable on their own and needing a suffix explains is fascinating! This is a nice quick rundown of how PIE works, and how we figured some of it out. Nice work demystifying it.
    8:20 Naive question: If there are 216 possible inflections (and some impossible in practice), how could PIE get more that 250 out of it? Or was that a typo and should it be 150?

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +47

      i knew someone would catch that but I was too lazy to fix it...😭

    • @Josecannoli1209
      @Josecannoli1209 7 місяців тому +4

      @@zzineohpit’s cool you gave it the old college try and it’s a good video.

  • @shuubil
    @shuubil 7 місяців тому +22

    I loved this video! The energy and humour stayed immaculate throughout, and I learnt a great deal about PIE. This deserves a sub!! Great job!

  • @anarchosnowflakist786
    @anarchosnowflakist786 7 місяців тому +7

    it is not weird that all your examples revolve around drinking water, as it is very important to stay well hydrated !
    thanks for the video btw, pie is a fascinating topic that I didn't know enough about

  • @liquidoxygen819
    @liquidoxygen819 7 місяців тому +98

    Bro used the Twitter Gujaratimaxxed Yamnaya phenotype 💀

    • @troyjacobs8530
      @troyjacobs8530 7 місяців тому +35

      He bulks with phonetics and cuts with semantics, dry scoops etymology as pre-workout

  • @benjaminaburns
    @benjaminaburns 7 місяців тому +10

    I have no idea what I just watched, but I enjoyed every minute of it.

  • @AzraNoxx
    @AzraNoxx 7 місяців тому +9

    "For that reason, P.I.E. has 14 vowels, except not really . . ."
    "So P. I.E. only has seven vowels. Eeeexcept not really. You see . . ."
    "So P.I.E. only has five vowels. Except . . . so that's the only reason 'a' exists. But people will take their views on the existence of 'a' to their graves. . ."
    "Proto-indoeuropean really only has four vowels."
    *beat*
    "So you're not going to believe this, but P.I.E. only really has one vowel."

  • @star_lings
    @star_lings 7 місяців тому +16

    this is a masterpiece. please continue making these!!!

  • @redhidinghood9337
    @redhidinghood9337 7 місяців тому +26

    I burst out laughing every time you say the breathy vowels😂😂 I don't think you need that much pressure or explosiveness

    • @miro.georgiev97
      @miro.georgiev97 7 місяців тому +8

      To be fair to the guy, English speakers (including me) generally can't perceive the difference between aspirated and unaspirated plosives, so he had to exaggerate the difference so that it could be heard at all. Apparently, according to commenters of Indo-Iranian background, when he was pronouncing them normally, he was actually already aspirating those consonants the whole time, which leads me to believe that the distinction between b and bh and p and ph just isn't big enough to even be made. It just needlessly complicates matters and leads to insecurity among learners of these languages that make the distinction by overcompensating and exaggerating the difference just so they can hear it for themselves.

    • @ArkhBaegor
      @ArkhBaegor 6 місяців тому +6

      @@miro.georgiev97 That can't be right. English has both types of plosives.
      map: unaspirated p, appear: aspirated p.
      English speakers can clearly hear the difference when they hear a non-native speaker get it wrong.

    • @samuelbarham8483
      @samuelbarham8483 5 місяців тому +5

      @@ArkhBaegor Yes, but it's not a phonemic distinction. English speakers don't usually perceive them as categorically different sounds, and panic a bit when asked to consciously produce them outside of their usual conditioning environment in English.

    • @silphonym
      @silphonym 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@miro.georgiev97 your belief is stupid and incorrect. English speakers struggle to differentiate between the two is not enough to say that there is no real difference. The speech (s-BEECH) issue only tells us that English speakers do pronounce p as b there, not that it is impossible to do so. s-PEECH is possible, it just sounds stupid.

    • @ahwabanmukherjee5065
      @ahwabanmukherjee5065 2 місяці тому +4

      @@miro.georgiev97 Yes, as an Indian, I can attest. Native English speakers always and unknowingly pronounce their consonants with the aspiration; indifference to such distinctions in Hindi or Bengali can get one wierd looks at best and slippers at worst. Also the same reason why the Indian English accent has unaspirated consonants as one of its most distinctive features.

  • @londoncrotty560
    @londoncrotty560 7 місяців тому +20

    this is such a cool video on a topic that I didn't know much about, you deserve more views and likes for this masterpiece

  • @Taletad
    @Taletad 7 місяців тому +7

    I don’t know how this wa recommended to me but this is exaclty the kind of content I like

    • @kupkaekmusic
      @kupkaekmusic 7 місяців тому +1

      biblidarion and nativelang are your friends

    • @Taletad
      @Taletad 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kupkaekmusic yeah I’m a long term subscriber to Native Lang

  • @_marwan_
    @_marwan_ 7 місяців тому +17

    PROUD INDO EUROPEAN SPEAKER HERE ❤ I AM KURDISH! , unfortunately our language is dying out i am trying my best to keep it alive

    • @siraco4278
      @siraco4278 6 місяців тому

      Its not dying out at all in bashur or rojhelat which combined have a population of about 18 milion

    • @tantuce
      @tantuce 6 місяців тому +1

      How is it dying out? Have a look at Estonia - a country in northern Europe. Population is 1.3m in Estonia, and in total 2 million Estonians worldwide (including Estonian). And they don't think Estonian is dying out.

  • @Hayakaru
    @Hayakaru 7 місяців тому +6

    You are clearly extremely well versed in this subject. That was an excellent video.

  • @lettuceandotherveggies715
    @lettuceandotherveggies715 7 місяців тому +14

    @ everyone complaining he used an American flag for English: have we considered that the guy with an American accent who constantly makes jokes about living in America might use an American flag for English because it’s the language he speaks in American?

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +41

      no i did specifically to annoy people

    • @Abram-kb3ux
      @Abram-kb3ux 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@zzineohp😂

  • @TornadoInAJar
    @TornadoInAJar 7 місяців тому +10

    I love the effort you put into this video, but you almost took me out on the k-g-gh! 😂 Thank you for your service! I needed the laugh, and the enlightenment.

  • @ceisiwrserith2224
    @ceisiwrserith2224 7 місяців тому +6

    Nice summary of the basics. Thanks. I disagree on the sounds of the laryngeals, but where would be the fun in historical linguistics if everyone always agreed. (I think H1 is ɂ (a glottal stop), H2 is χ (a voiceless velar fricative, as in German "Bach"), and H3 is γw (labialized voiced fricative, because it rounds a following [e] into [o] (because it's labialized) and voiced a following consonant (because it voices a following consonant)). But that's a minor disagreement, and I learned some things from the video, so good on you.

  • @kovoc1
    @kovoc1 7 місяців тому +7

    What an elegant sounding language. This must truly be the language of the gods.

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit 7 місяців тому +4

      Deus Pater in particular.

  • @TheTomster3375
    @TheTomster3375 7 місяців тому +6

    10/10 video. You have earned a subscriber. Keep it up, I'm eager to watch more! (Gonna go through the catalogue later)

  • @NeilWick
    @NeilWick 7 місяців тому +2

    That's a lot of details to pack into 12 minutes, but it's a great overview and pretty entertaining at the same time.

  • @carlosbarragan2223
    @carlosbarragan2223 7 місяців тому +2

    Oh my god, thank you, thank you so much for making this video. I hadn't laughed this hard in ages. My entire body is shaking, and my neck and stomach are hurting. It's like therapy.

  • @CalvinWiersum
    @CalvinWiersum 7 місяців тому +6

    “And they were actually kyuh guh GYUH”

  • @firenter
    @firenter 7 місяців тому +1

    Don't think I've ever laughed so much at a linguistics lecture! This is incredible, to the front page with you!

  • @sojjjer
    @sojjjer 7 місяців тому +4

    your destined to hit around 300k subscribers in a year or two

  • @SuperSirex1272
    @SuperSirex1272 7 місяців тому +5

    i think this is the best >1K subs channel ive ever been recommended

  • @dkmarzipan
    @dkmarzipan 7 місяців тому +1

    Longest and most interesting hydration reminder I've ever heard. Thanks!

  • @scoutintime
    @scoutintime 7 місяців тому +2

    i am 2 minutes in and having an aneurysm. good job i think i dont know im scared

  • @HighlyEntropicMind
    @HighlyEntropicMind 7 місяців тому +10

    This is awesome, I'll try to send some views your way

    • @appleoxide4489
      @appleoxide4489 7 місяців тому +2

      i came this way

    • @HighlyEntropicMind
      @HighlyEntropicMind 7 місяців тому +1

      @@appleoxide4489When I first read your comment I interpreted it in a VERY different way

    • @varoonnone7159
      @varoonnone7159 7 місяців тому

      I did come this way 😳

    • @EvenRoyalsNeedToUrinate
      @EvenRoyalsNeedToUrinate 7 місяців тому

      ​@@varoonnone7159and that's ok, we like the way you came

  • @dominusalicorn3684
    @dominusalicorn3684 7 місяців тому +1

    The split second frame at 8:03 with the example of dual verb conjugation made me spit with laughter when I finally paused it in time to see it.
    Turtledoves and partridge... very well done.

  • @CBlargh
    @CBlargh 7 місяців тому +3

    Mid-Atlantic has reverted to the original pronunciation of water...

  • @Alorand
    @Alorand 7 місяців тому +4

    If you grow up hearing this every day I can see how you might be in the mood to conquer parts of Eurasia.

  • @PersonManManManMan
    @PersonManManManMan 7 місяців тому +1

    Using PIE as acronym for Proto Indo European is delightfully delicious

  • @zzineohp
    @zzineohp  8 місяців тому +107

    9:14 why did you pronounce that e wrong? Everyone know the e makes a e sound. LOL! Western liberals these days really don't understand anything

    • @RenéSaussy
      @RenéSaussy 7 місяців тому +33

      Bro responded to his own video and liked his own comment ☠

    • @iumiforgot
      @iumiforgot 7 місяців тому +8

      when you make an 11 minute video people can't even look away from I think you can spare a single mispronounced syllable, loved the video!

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +31

      @@iumiforgot no that's how your supposed to pronounce it, the h³ changes the way you pronounce e

    • @ea-nasir420
      @ea-nasir420 7 місяців тому +25

      ​@@zzineohpDamn bro did you just pretend to be a snarky commenter calling you out just to set up a pedagogical correction of said satirical self-correction? This is weapons grade meme/youtube educational content crossover!

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 7 місяців тому

      cringe as fuck.

  • @pyromelonz9020
    @pyromelonz9020 7 місяців тому +2

    One of the best thumbnails ive seen

  • @servantofaeie1569
    @servantofaeie1569 7 днів тому

    I actually learned something new from this video! The ablaut specifically
    I'm definitely on team "regular dorsals" were actually uvular and also on team "voiced unaspirates" were ejectives and voiceless plosives were aspirated like their voiced counterparts. So Armenian and Germanic are actually a bit conservative while everyone else changed.

  • @kmr_tl4509
    @kmr_tl4509 7 місяців тому +2

    Answered a lot of questions I've been thinking about for a long time.

  • @emmafischer6067
    @emmafischer6067 7 місяців тому +1

    I have no idea what I just watched but I loved it

  • @shishir12789
    @shishir12789 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Now I know why its such a pain to learn Sanskrit and German, it's because they preserved so much of the PIE lexeme system

  • @tovarishchfeixiao
    @tovarishchfeixiao 4 місяці тому +1

    Inventer of "h1, h2, h3" be like: "let's make up letters that never existed so we can make up more cognates out of nowhere"

  • @amaurylannes
    @amaurylannes 7 місяців тому +4

    Damn this is an impressive video deadass

  • @matttiberius1900
    @matttiberius1900 6 місяців тому

    7:57 this is actually one of the clearest explanations of inflections I've ever seen.

  • @cruztastrophe
    @cruztastrophe 3 місяці тому

    I needed this video so badly because wiktionary doesn't have a way to hear what's in the chart.

  • @wintercaesaria2492
    @wintercaesaria2492 7 місяців тому

    Small correction (correct me if i am wrong): I'm pretty sure [ph th kh] are the standard english , its just we dont notice because... they're the standard. [p t k] are actually the sounds made when appear after another consonant(and probably in other places) such as in speaks. They sound somewhat simmilar to but they are unvoiced. The way to tell the difference is if you feel a lot of air coming out of your mouth, your doing the ones with the h, if not its the normal one. Look up more videos on the subject if you are interested.

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +1

      Firstly there are multiple theories on how to realize the PIE plosives, a secondly rather than being accurate it's more important for my English-speaking audience to tell the difference
      And for what it's worth, I made one of those "videos on the subject"

    • @wintercaesaria2492
      @wintercaesaria2492 7 місяців тому +1

      @@zzineohp fair enough. I just put in too much effort learning how to pronounce aspirated stops and I need to lord it over even people who probably can >:(

  • @MOPCLinguistica
    @MOPCLinguistica 7 місяців тому +3

    You actually left the little squares of the missing Avestan fonts 2:30

  • @sweetcorm
    @sweetcorm 7 місяців тому +1

    “Water is just an idea, that the glass belongs to, and the water being in the glass is just a product of that” - Zzineohp, 2024

  • @kalacaptain4818
    @kalacaptain4818 5 місяців тому

    rapidly approaching simon roper levels of linguistics content

  • @warboats
    @warboats 7 місяців тому

    Wow i might have actually finally sussed out basic grammar cos of this video. probably not but that was probably the best way its been presented to me so far probably... got not idea what was the other mess you were chatting

  • @itz_marcus0819
    @itz_marcus0819 7 місяців тому +3

    In Latvian 🇱🇻 the sentence is:
    Es dzēru lielu glāzi ūdeni.
    Exact translation:
    I drank big glass water.

  • @demeurecorentin
    @demeurecorentin 4 місяці тому +1

    Legit banger of a video, thx

  • @roedagardet
    @roedagardet 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Can't wait to share it with all of my friends who know nothing about linguistics! (They will hate me for the rest of my life)

  • @eruditydosaine3351
    @eruditydosaine3351 6 місяців тому

    ‘The piranhas drank all my shampoo’ - I’m loving these example sentences

  • @UCXWsx-oM-WKahAKSny-ATw
    @UCXWsx-oM-WKahAKSny-ATw 7 місяців тому +1

    youre person mitchell but better. Please keep these bangers coming 🔥🔥🔥

  • @cariyaputta
    @cariyaputta 7 місяців тому +1

    It's good to learn more about my ancestor.

  • @davidcoxinparis
    @davidcoxinparis 7 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant and so very funny! Great presentation!

  • @davidlericain
    @davidlericain 7 місяців тому +2

    Subscribed. Love it!

  • @yrv9228
    @yrv9228 26 днів тому +1

    Old churchslavonic mentioned 🗣🔥🔥

  • @nicholaslemosdecarvalho5328
    @nicholaslemosdecarvalho5328 4 дні тому

    I could watch like an hour of this stuff

  • @isensmith
    @isensmith 5 місяців тому

    this is exactly the PIE language video I was looking for!

  • @rhubarb2301
    @rhubarb2301 7 місяців тому +1

    0:35 a man of culture

  • @cecilokatrona
    @cecilokatrona 2 місяці тому

    gosh this brought me back to when we were riding horses through the steppes... good old IE times...

  • @johnhoelzeman6683
    @johnhoelzeman6683 7 місяців тому

    Your pronunciations are killing me 😂😂 they're definitely correct, just they way you did it

  • @garethjones2596
    @garethjones2596 6 місяців тому +1

    The infinitive was not an inflectional category in Proto-Indo-European, but there was a stative verbal paradigm called the perfect (as distinct from the perfective called the aorist)

  • @KGTiberius
    @KGTiberius 7 місяців тому +3

    📍 Consider a visual flow/tree charts of PIE:
    🔹 common root words, (mother, father, water, fire, sun, moon, earth, sky, night, horse, wheel, tree, gold, etc.)
    🔹 branching/deviation, (semantics/zen are cognates *seh₂-)
    🔹 dead ends (lost linguistic features)
    🔹 word order in sentence structure.
    @UsefulCharts collaboration?
    ❓ Also a secondary LIST of all hypothetical PIE words? I’m thinking along the lines of programming AI for how PIE was reverse-engineered, then use the human mapped models for a larger AI analysis and reconstruction.

  • @matthaeuscatuvellauniensis9301
    @matthaeuscatuvellauniensis9301 6 місяців тому

    "Lesser-known Armenian consonant shift" is very fun as my dialect of Armenian did it again, this time unvoiced plosives became voiced and voiced ones became voiceless aspirated ones. Also explains why it took me so long to work out what word "ber" represented as we pronounce բեռ as "p_her"

  • @Someone-ym1ny
    @Someone-ym1ny 24 дні тому

    I can't believe this is how I find out the voicelessness diacritic in PIE is actually meant to show syllabicness are you kidding me REEE

  • @KingLinm
    @KingLinm 2 місяці тому

    I think something similiar to 5:30 survives in gheg albanian. For example the name “Fatmir” which means “one that has good luck”, the “i” in it is pronounced as a near-close near-front unrounded vowel “ɪ” but in “fat i mirë” which means “good luck” the “i” is pronounced as a close front unrounded vowel “i”.

  • @mew2knight337
    @mew2knight337 7 місяців тому

    you can't even imagine how much time you saved me thanks to this video, ❤

  • @Voshchronos
    @Voshchronos 7 місяців тому

    Great video, I'm impressed we know so much about proto-indo-european, damn.

  • @bhaveerathod2373
    @bhaveerathod2373 6 місяців тому +1

    Was not expecting the sudden shoutout to gujaratis 😂😂
    Anyways at 9:18 it’s crazy because if I want to say “should I drink water” in Gujarati it’s
    “me pani peyam?” peyam which means “should I drink” which is so cool how it has derived from PIE

  • @loskam
    @loskam 7 місяців тому +2

    Very good video but I think it'd benefit from better quality audio (recording and/or audio mixing)

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +2

      yeah people were complaining about my mic being too quiet, apparently this was not the way to fix that

  • @msherif428
    @msherif428 6 місяців тому +1

    2:53 Ah yes, the famous avestani square... script!

  • @justinwatson1510
    @justinwatson1510 7 місяців тому +1

    Your aspirated consonants were more seductive than I've ever heard before.

  • @Mouse-p5s
    @Mouse-p5s 7 місяців тому +2

    I think PIE is like AfroAsiatic language(hebrew, arabic, old egyptian, ...)

  • @CapnSlipp
    @CapnSlipp 7 місяців тому +1

    I feel like this would be a good video if it was narrated into a modern decent podcaster or streamer microphone (so I could easily hear the differences on the exceptional speakers in my 5-year-old Apple product, and prettymuch every other not-Wish-tier product out there nowadays), instead of a microphone from the 1990s when 320p video was the best we could do.

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому

      Ok mean, but honestly deserved, I was trying to fix a different problem, made it worse.

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 7 місяців тому

    Subscribed!
    Incidentally, I like Old Church Slavonic, or at least certain of its glyphs. Yes, the O's with all the eyes.

  • @freddietallonvera2727
    @freddietallonvera2727 7 місяців тому +1

    Fun video! The way vowels are chosen depending on the inflection and suffixes reminds me of Semitic languages. Is it possible that they were related in the distant past?

    • @zzineohp
      @zzineohp  7 місяців тому +2

      I think that's just a common way for vowel sounds to develop

  • @Beryesa.
    @Beryesa. 7 місяців тому

    Seeing the thumbnail I didn't expect much Eeeeexcept it's really good 😂

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Місяць тому +1

    Great video

  • @NamiZu00
    @NamiZu00 7 місяців тому +1

    I'd love to see a similar video about finno-ugric languages

  • @jabbalone2068
    @jabbalone2068 7 місяців тому +1

    And always remember, that English comes from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and not from 🇺🇸

  • @Nero_Karel
    @Nero_Karel 6 місяців тому

    That's actually pretty helpful, thanks!

  • @nikolay4101-s7r
    @nikolay4101-s7r 4 місяці тому

    1:57 I saw in a video once that in ancient Greek, while while kʷ and gʷ had already transformed to b and p (thus their letters Β and Π), the barely lingering gʷʰ was still turning into pʰ (later f), and thus the Greeks split Ϙ and Φ, but once the sound shift was complete Ϙ and it's descendant Q was left with no distinct sound. So this odd old sound survived juuust long enough to affect the alphabets we know and use today