WRITING with dodie | VEDISI 6
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2020
- The lovely dodie joins me for VEDISI Day 6 to talk about song writing. And book writing. And just writing in general really.
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If there was a Podcast with these two amazing people I would listen to it religiously! Such amazing people!
They should totally do a quarantine one!!
YES
Can this actually be a thing please
Yes this would be amazing!
I love how this is mostly you two marveling at each others' abilities to express in different forms.
Rose Lalonde I will forever be in awe of her songwriting abilities ☺️
You just broke my brain with the idea that chapters can be like their own short stories. I have so many big ideas for novels in my head and I can't write them at all because I get paralyzed. Maybe if I focus on each chapter as its own story, I can actually get it done.
Rose Lalonde Yes! This absolutely helped me tackle my novel. But it works for anything. Just break it down into smaller parts. A book is just chapters. A screenplay is just scenes. Start small x
Rose Lalonde remember that books/stories dont have to be written in order 👍
Why Is dodie casually speed singing guiltless a whole mood lol
1) they both look like forest nymphs
2) it's so sweet watching such good friends just have an unedited chat and be so comfortable together
3) did anyone else fully fall in love with dodie while she was staring into the camera??
This was so fascinating. It was so interesting to hear about how dodie writes and sees her songs. She is my favourite singer, i mean she was all over my spotify in review thing. And this whole conversation was just so cool and inspiring i think. I feel like i want to write something even if it's going to be shit.
Do it!
Heck yeah! The only way to become at least somewhat good at something is starting from the bottom! (in this case shit 😂)
Bea R hahah
It is so motivating to just hear people enthusiastically talk about the creative process!!! This is what I need to get me to paint and write and music my way through social distancing. Thank you for sharing your energy and passion!! 💖💖💖🎶
watching this no joke made me so inspired I emerged from my slump and wrote the first half of a song I actually like for the first time in mONTHS so thank u both
writing lyrics feels so good when u like what ur writing :’) I missed this feeling xxx
thanks this gave me hope that i can feel good about my music for the first time in a while :,)
aimee eve WOOP! Well done you x
Duck Fayce creativity comes from strange and wonderful places :D x
Hazel Hayes big hearts all round
Can we hear it?
This has oldschool early youtube vibes and I"M SO HERE FOR IT.
Please make an isolation podcast with you two ranting about all things you’re passionate about!
Literally as dodie was talking about songwriting, I stopped, saw my clock had stopped ticking and a song started in my head.
Love these videos so much Hazel, a joy as always to watch.
Can we get like eight more of these? Listening to the two of you talk about your creative processes (particularly dodie bc I was a music theory major) is SO FASCINATING I NEED MORE
I love hearing how other people's brains work wow
THIS IS HALF AN HOUR LONG OH HAZEL THANK YOU
22:54 dodie's inner essex coming out.
i was midway through writing the "get yourself a friend who looks at you the way hazel does to dodie" and then you sAID IT
on another note, this was such a cool video. I loved hearing about both of your writing processes. :)
I wrote a little poem once and I feel like y'all might like it here after this lovely video. Seems applicable today. Cheers x
It seems to be
That the greatest things
Are the things I have thought
But never wrote down-
Which leads me to think
That the true epiphany
Comes in the things that I find
Not the things I have found.
that is so lovely! thank you for writing this
LOVEEE
This is amazing!!
I love poems. I'm used to reading youtube comments and thinking "cool" and moving on, but I actually caved and made a youtube account to comment this because this was beautiful from start to finish. Incredible!! :)
Eva Geisinger thank you so much!
I could definitely watch an on going series like this where you two just talk about a subject. "A conversation with Dodie" would be a great series.
Hell yeeeaah
Pls do a podcast this was lovely
Resh hmmm 🤔
I would LOVE a Hazel and Dodie podcast.
i'd listen the crap out of it!!
You Love Justin Bīber thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹❤️
I don’t do any type of writing really but I still found this so interesting
Dodie is everywhere this week and I love it
Dodie is one of my all time favorite song writers, one of my favorite lines she's written is, "she tastes like story time and birthday cake and fall... but to her I taste of nothing at all" the pause before the conclusion it really sucks the air from me the first time I heard I needed to pause and get myself together
does anyone else just have those moments where you're looking at two people and you realize how beautiful and talented and amazing they both are, and in such wildly different ways, too?
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(just because you don't see yourself as fitting one particular standard of beauty or talent - maybe one that you're really attracted to yourself - doesn't mean you're not beautiful or talented. you're just yourself, instead of someone else. and that's important. and there will be people who are attracted specifically to what you can offer the world. be yourself, and be patient.)
I love videos with you and dodie because they all seem so effortlessly passionate
yes! "effortlessly passionate" is a perfect description
I'm not a writer as a artist, I'm a scientist and I write science papers - it's horribly hard for me, but I always found the pride in talking about writing cause then I feel a little bit like Hazel talking about it 🤭
I'm just starting a scientific study at university, and *good lord* writing academic papers is difficult. Massive respect to you
I'm kind of relieved to know that you two have each other during this confusing and scary time
When you guys started to talk about writing, it made me realize how much I miss it. So I paused the video and went to write a story that has been living in my head for almost a year but I was never brave enough to actually write it until now.
I just sent it to my friend and she told me it´s the best thing I´ve ever written, so thank you so much for inspiring me to do this!
Hazel you dress like a history teacher and they're always the best members of staff so..yeah take from that what you will
This is the most genuine "interview" i've seen in my entire shorty life I-
It's so interesting to hear you talk about writing! Also, super inspiring :) made me want to do more writing. VEDISI might be the one thing keeping me sane throughout self-isolation
Hazel like how can you sit in this position for 30 Minutes? It hurt me just looking at it? Are your legs okay?
linkinparkfanish I stood up and my right leg was completely numb for a while 😳
@@TheHazelHayes That happened to me in school once and I had to drag my leg back to my desk bc I literally couldn't feel it
dodie is so beatiful, it may sound weird but I love seeing her when whe thinks, she's like so authentic and calming
I also have given a lot of blood and it's very mesmerizing to watch it leave into the tubes. I always thought it was cool, but all my friends are scared of needles so I didn't realize other people also felt that way!
I used to find it really fascinating too, but now anytime I have to get a shot or get my blood drawn, I very nearly pass out. Not sure why...
I love needles, idk why. Once I went to the ER for a panic attack that wouldn't stop and when they drew my blood I started calming down and breathing normally.
This is honestly one of my favorite videos. I admire both of your for the personalities that you show in your videos and for your different art. Dodies lyrics always cut right into the raw emotions of a situation. She also uses such vivid and almost gruesomely beautiful word choice. I also love how Hazel writes and how she directs. The feeling of her stories is so unique. It really draws you in and makes you think that you’re going to miss something if you leave early. Hearing both of your processes and how it just pours through you is really interesting as an artist. I am a visual artist and that is exactly how I feel when I have an idea. I have the grab anything to get it down with random add ins that only I understand. Thank you guys so much for sharing.
What's this?! a thirty minute video?!! with dodie and Hazel??!!!
How EXCITING!!!
It has a calming energy
0:45 that look tho
Timing is 👌
OMG THE SONG SHE PLAYED ON THE LIVE I CANTTTT
Oh I feel that conversation so much! I just realised that I actually also have this specific state of mind when write: I am about to cry or just cried and this little hurting in my chest.
Dodie please do writing process videos like this on your channel I loved this way too much (Also you Hazel who needs other guests who are now in isolation when we have a writer in residence in your head)
they both look so lovely in this video 🥺
two lovely ladies 🥺✨
i love how passionate you guys are
Something I find helpful is to identify feelings I have trouble expressing and seeing if I can channel it in a song. Recently I've struggled with allowing myself to be angry, so I've been writing really angry songs which is so helpful.
I LOVE YALLS DRESSES AHHHHH also the content *chefs kiss*
The what's necessary is very good advice, i usually end up with super short detailess stuff but i can perfect it once the foundation is set, thank you ^^. Also good chat, always nice to see people with your shared passion enthusiastically sharing.
ahhh this video made me pick up my piano and just start playing and going back looking at old pieces!! hearing you guys talk about creating and your processes made me pretty much swell with creativity ahhhhh it’s so interesting hearing your writing processes bc i see everything so visually, almost like a movie, even music and this just reignited my passion!
So so interesting!! As a poet and half-assed novelist I loved hearing the differences between songwriting and prose-writing, especially as so much of what makes both of them effective can be created with different writing methods. This was so interesting, and the obvious passion you both have for your art was so inspiring to watch. Gotta go do some more writing myself now! Lots of love to you both.
Combining your two crafts slightly, one thing that I love is perfect film scores. There's this one climactic scene in Torchwood that I remember where the score is so carefully composed that I nearly cried. Countdown to destruction is still a piece of music I think I'll listen to forever.
Mines like if my eyes are a projector, projecting a video or holograms.
Tom Kao Oooooh! Interesting
Hazel Hayes thank you for reply!!
The stuff you're talking about applies across all kinds of creativity. You mentioned that people "shouldn't see the seems", and that reminded me of a truism from my work, which is mechanical design. I've often said that if a design looks complicated and impressive, it's badly done; each layer of complication is a patch one flawed concept. Great design has been thought through so thoroughly that the resulting thing is ridiculously simple and unimpressive-looking. Therefore great design often goes unappreciated because after the fact it looks obvious, and you can't conceive of it being done any other way, so you kind of say, well of course you'd design it that way. The layers of thought that got it to that point are hidden if it's done right.
Please make more writing videos!! So interesting and inspiring!!
Get you someone you look at the way hazel looks at dodie
I have a whole podcast about this and the differences! It’s called In Our Own Words 😊💛
Can dodie turn 'i'm peeing with the door open' into a legitimate song? (some people will be very confused by this)
The look at developing and the process of everything is always so interesting to see. It really shows the differences in personality also. The psychology and thought process is wonderful.
This is such a fascinating conversation to listen to. I always love hearing how people sort out their methods of creativity and this was just so interesting! Love you both!❤
Erin Enright glad you enjoyed it Erin!
2:00 that's dodie's song 'just fine'
Love you both so much!
You make my life brighter
I'm so early that this might be seen
can i just say, without coming off weird, every frame of this video looks like a painting. like, i was listening but also thinking about how all the colours in this frame look really nice together. for the first few minutes i thought this is nice soft neutral lighting and good interior design. then i was thinking maybe your respective skin tones and hair colours just bounce off each other really well? and then i paused the video to figure out what i was seeing and i was just like . . . yeah this is a painting. pausing every few seconds is another position thats totally art worthy. there's a constant flow of motion of hair and light catching eyes and hand gestures that perfectly encapsulate personality . . . so now i'm just paused on 13:25 like . . . do i need to paint this . . .
Super insightful and lovely, thank you both! I totally identified with different bits of what each of you were saying
I spent most of the video just listening to it without watching and then i sat down and looked at the screen and was shocked at how good you two look in here
This was brilliant! So sweet and full of so many good nuggets of knowledge, thanks a million for this 💛✨
dodie is so pretty!! seriously how is she doing that
Fun, happyness and laughter, what more do we need atm. Excellent
On working with limitations and using them in your creative process I recommend Darren Korb's talk at GDC about Bastion. He wrote the music on a shoestring budget but produced a fantastic soundtrack by embracing his limitations instead of fighting them.
I love this so much!! As a musician I find it so interesting that dodies writing process is exactly the same as mine!! So cool
The 'each chapter is like its own little story' thing made me think of a TV series. There are threads running through the entire series but each episode has its own structure with intro/main bit/conclusion (or cliffhanger) as well.
A friend and I are currently writing a song and thiiiiis video reeeeally helped us!!! Thank you so much!! Also, dodie, the song that you were talking about that you wrote oooomg that basically describes half of the song we’re writing!!! Aaahhhh I love this video sm I watched it twice over!!
This, this was quite excellent
Dodie is so talented, I just found her music channel and I love her music 🎶
man, i wish i were creative - it seems so fun!
y'all are great, btw! :D
This really has me wanting, needing to write some songs and little writing pieces again. Thank you both so much💕 and i adore you both
coming back to this in December feels like a time capsule omg
This is so interesting. I'd love more videos on the topic and with Dodie of course!! :D
Love love love this!
this was lovely to watch, I wish I could just sit and talk to a songwriter/band member that I follow and just talk about their music, their songs in the way you did with each other. talk about all the little messages, all the little things people miss. everything. it was so beautiful to see you two do that with each other.
Honestly listening to this is kind of heartbreaking because I feel so disconnected from my own writing. It's been so long since I wrote a long story and I remember those feelings Hazel is talking about but it's been so long since I actually felt them it breaks my heart. I miss it so much and I want to fall in love with a story again but it just feels impossible to start. I don't have a story I'm passionate to tell, so how can I? I just... I miss it so much.
I had such a wonderful time watching this video! Not only was it really nice to hear both of your writing wisdom (so cool to see it from a songwriting AND a prose perspective) but I also just had fun watching you guys bant and chat :)
Could you please do a part two of this video as part of your VEDISI series or even make it its own series? I would honestly watch another 10 hours of just you guys talking about your creative processes :)
this was so great. i love writing but i've never thought about going somewhere with it, its kinda like a thing i do just for me (and i also think im just not very good at it). this was so interesting though and kinda made me want to write more.
i could hear both of them talk for HOURS pls be a guest in a podcast or something oh my god
This is such an interesting conversation! Got a lot of insight and inspiration💖
So interesting! Thank Hazel and Dodie!
Please do more of this with dodie lmfaoo. I love how the both of u just bounce off each other so nicely :)
the idea about the perfect writing time happened to me 2 nights ago, literally felt every thing you two described and just KNEW i had to get something down. i have about 5 notebooks all for different types of my writing and i wrote in every single one that night. that's how you know it hit DEEP
after watching this I literally just sat down and wrote down a bit of a piano piece I’ve had in my head but couldn’t get out till now so thank you ☺️
I'm so glad I'm not alone in liking seeing my blood get drawn.
Loveeee these long chatty videos ☺️
This is the video I was looking for 💞
you both have such talent!!!! this was so cool and fascinating and inspiring and beautiful :’)
Ahhhh I missed your sit down talky videos :)))))) This was so calming after a stressful day trying and failing to work from home, feeling very ill and generally losing the will to live! This was so fascinating to listen to especially for someone who has no experience in the writing field but a lot in the listening and reading field
im S o SO excited to read hazels book
I loved this so much!! It’s so interesting to see how two totally different writers explore the writing process and how you both create!🥰💛
The stress on words hit home for me as i am a songwriter too and sometimes i can get so stuck that idk what to do :'[
at the end when you’re wrapping it up i imagined you going “and on that note” and then both singing a random note and seeing whatever the hell comes out
I love hearing people talk about the complexity of storytelling through writing and/or composing music because I can't comprehend how some people's minds work that way. I'm decently creative with visual art, but i'm completely lost when it comes to writing
loved this so much
5:41
like when you get out of bed at 3:00am to pee or get water or something and you have to run into bed before you lose your tiredness
The fact that Dodie's impulse was to just slap her thigh @ 27:09 to audio match made me *lose* it for some reason, this self isolation is really getting to me asdfkldfs
This was a really insightful video. I'm a fiber artist first (a seamstress by trade), but I write short stories for fun and for gifts for friends quite frequently. I have to walk myself down the lane of the plot I'm intending to tell before I can even start outlining the details. Something about my (diagnosed) OCD forces me to have at least an idea of the beginning, middle, and end before I can even start figuring details out details and character nuances.
For me it's like going to a mall, I always go in with a plan to go to this shop, this shop, and this shop. Most of the time I don't know exactly what I'm going into each shop for, but comparatively I don't usually stray to shops I know that I'm not going to find anything in. In that way, it does help!
This was gorgeous and also so interesting and insightful!!
This is such an interesting and inspiring video. I loved hearing about your creative processes and I'd love to hear more about it. Regarding efficient storytelling, I feel like Midsommar is a very fitting example. I was honestly very impressed with the way that film conveyed the things it wanted to.
bloody love you two