Is the Audi A3/S3 just a $50,000 Volkswagen Jetta? Is the Audi Worth it?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- The Audi A3/S3 is built on the Volkswagen Jetta Platform. While it does come with nicer creature comforts does it justify it's huge price difference?
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This gen of GLI does not share the same platform at the A3/S3. This platform is more similarly shared with the mk7 GTI, and Golf R
Isn't Audi just the premium range of VW since VW owns Audi?
i used to own a jetta gli in my high school years it was the best car i evr own until i got rear end it and total it
I would save up for the RS3. What a car.
a real comparisoin would be the mk7 golf r vs the audi s3
Firstly, you should compare the S3 with the golf R because those cars are identical. A better comparison is the A3 an GTI, both of which have the same engine and transmission. This jetta has the engine from the mk6.
5:49 That’s Bora
Just realised jets is the American name of Bora in Europe
Umm.. big problem. The Jetta IS NOT on the S3 platform. The S3 is built on the brand new MQB architecture shared with the MK7 Golf family. The Jetta GLI is built on the 10-year-old MK5- MK6 PQ platform. The MQB architecture will be introduced in the upcoming MK7 Jetta.
And the MQB platformed vehicles have fantastic tunable engines, vw mk7 golf r are running 600bhp with stock internals with just bigger turbo, injector, hpfp, intercooler, catless downpipe, even the dsg holds up well after it's been mapped
And one is awd with a slightly bigger turbo
My friend had a VW Jetta, and LITERALLY the best stock audio system I've ever heard, it kinda made a feeling of euphoria. Also the car was pretty fast, and he put a new exhaust system on it, and it sounded amazing. I'd pick that car over the Audi considering the price.
The Audi in the video is built on the MQB platform which is a generation ahead (and much superior) of the PQ35 platform of the Jetta GLI.
Nazeer Vawda good point, but i would have sware that vw got the mqb.
Basic language “: the jetta is the MK6 golf gen and the s3 is the mk7 golf”
Nazeer Vawda so, reading the comments.... what's the true correct fact? Of the cars that appear in the video, which platform is each based on?
Google it. The S3 is built on the newest MQB Volkswagen group platform for compact cars. The Jetta is old, The platform that it's built on is the PQ35 platform which originally debuted on the Audi A3 back in 2003!
The Jetta is a 2003 Skoda Octavia.
I wish a GLI was only $25000 😂 the Sport is 25, the gli is 30+
Stephan D got mine last year for about 27 looks exactly like the Jetta in this video but I have Audi wheels
Stephan D got my SE TDI for around $23k after taxes, net price was $15k (interest/warranties)
My aunt got a new gli s dsg for $22,000 with remote start
Comparing the S3 to the Jetta GLI isn't exactly a valid comparison. A better one would be the GLI vs the lesser A3 2.0T
HashiriyaR32 still doesn't even compete!!! That A3 is a beast that hangs on to the road for dear life!!
HashiriyaR32 and the a3 has 2 extra drive wheels and is a much nicer and better looking car in my opinion
@@airspacelord1387 it has the same engine as any 2.0 vw, same dsg and same optional 4wd on same chassis volkswagen uses for their vehicles as well as audis which are also owned by vw, they just have different and optional luxury trim, and both brands are not by any means beasts of a car, they are quite predictable and prone to understeer
Themarenda AWD cars are set up more neutral, I’ve owned MK4, MK5 GTI’s a B8 A4 and now a 8V A3. And it goes uncontested the capability of the new MQB platform. You can play with the XDiff electronically in the A3 AWD (see my video) and this thing just hooks! I’ve back roads mine for years in Germany and now in Korea.
@@airspacelord1387 they are essentially fwd which engages awd when front starts losing grip but they never tend to oversteer plus newer versions have electric handbrakes, audi makes sweet daily cars with engines that can serve some punch and alot of tuning companies offer remap for their engines but i just don't find them that exciting as drivers cars i get that majority of people wants to feel safe but at least s and rs models should handle more agressively
Isnt there an RS3? which would be a higher trim
Matas Simukaitis I was thinking the same thing, but I don't think we get the rs3 here in the US.
It's a totally different engine, so it'd be considered a different car. Trim would probably mostly cover options and features.
PWAT-GEETHUR I looked on the Audi website and it says we do so I’m not sure
PWAT-GEETHUR Yea we do
The usa got the RS3 sedan and in the EU we have the RS3 sportback the had to wait on the sedan for a while but it has been launched in europe now aswell ( 2.5 TFSI 5c “just like in the ttrs)
You put the wrong headlamps on the Jetta.
No it didn't come with the LED option
In Europe it does...
H4RD_B4SE it did come with led/xenon lights in the US as well.
mercguy658 On which generation? Because I've never seen a Jetta of that generation, with LED. It doesn't even have Xenon nor it has parking sensors, like wtf?
H4RD_B4SE Huh? The GLI came with LED DRL and Xenon lights, LED taillights. It also comes with Pilot Pilot. I work for a VW dealer in America
Not even same chassis. S3 is based on MQB chassis, the GLI isn’t. MQB alone makes it worth it, but would say a more fair comparison is GTI vs A3 and GOLF R vs S3
Sameer Kotecha you can get the current Golf on the MQB for still have the price of the Audi.
Half the price? You would compare a GTI to an A3 and a Golf R to a S3, neither of those are half the price. Comparing the starting prices, the A3 is only 6k more than the GTI, which for the AWD was an easy choice for me. The S3 is only $4k more than the Golf R
Sameer Kotecha Exactly! 👍
You gotta love the Jetta Gli... Excellent engine, transmission, very high tuning potential for half the price of the Audi... Throw a Stage 2 on the Gli and some gripper tires for a couple of grand and it starts to out-shadow the Audi considering its price
Gian Groppa Racing and race 5.0 mustangs on the drag strip.. Or street, who cares. Wait, muscle car guys will care because you destroyed them in your family sedan grocery getter!
Gian Groppa Racing
The S3/Golf r is quicker than a stage 2 gli/gti, so if you get a stage 1 tune on the Audi, it will seriously rape tons of cars and hurt plenty of feelings.
Btw, I'm not biased towards either car, I have an mk6 gti so that's just my experience, but I mostly agree with everything else you sajd.
Andrew Denisyuk stage 2 mk7 GTI is faster than a mk7 golf r stock btw
Joseph Vella like at the drag strip or around a circuit? Either way both tuned to stage two are great, except I'd put my money on the GTI because it's like 300 lbs lighter isn't it? Considering that the Golf R is front wheel drive biased
Diego Murillo so true as someone who owns a mk7 gti and a fox body mustang built up. The built mustang is just as fast as a Stock! Gti! Insane to me.
You being in the industry you should know this is done with every manufacturer like the $100k Escalade is the same as a 50K suburban the TLX is the same as the Accord the ES300 is the same now as the Avalon it used to be the same as the Camry etc nothing crazy here. I also recommend buying a Certified Audi you will get a 3 year 100k mile warranty and the car will be half of the original sticker price
Los Pollos Hermanos Well said
Yes well said every manufactuer...except bmw and mercedes... this is why ill never get an audi or lexus the cheapness is all over the place
Stefan Cupovic but reliability comes standard with Lexus🤔
Los Pollos Hermanos TRUE!!
Americans would love Europe , here VW/Audi have another two brands ,Skoda and Seat both of which are cheaper than the VW
The Audi A3/s3 looks so much better with the full LED headlights, xenons are showing there age now days
I think the skoda will be cheaper
You are correct sir, I’m personally not bothered about what brand the car is but the VW Jetta, Audi A3, Seat Toledo and Škoda Rapid are all made by the VW Audi Group and all use the same engine ranges. I bought a Rapid as i knew its a very similar car. Obviously in an Audi you get a better trim than a Škoda but the engines are the same and a lot of the parts.
John Williams actually the rapid is not related to the jetta at all because it is based on the polo platform. it especially doesn't share anything with the audi a3 which is based on MQB😬 the rapid is a cost effective car designed for developing markets. not saying it's a bad car but it's just not related at all. the octavia and seat leon are the cars that shares engines and many components with the a3.
Too bad Skoda isn't available in American market.
Yes, that's the bottom end edition of the same VW/Audi. If you don't care about the badge, you must choose Skoda.
The Seat looks better in my opinion
Don’t listen to this 10 minutes boring video jestta and a4 is exactly same only different is audi is 4 wheel drive and jetta is not huh
you are a mix of hoovies garage and doug demeuro
scammer hacker totally, with a dose of Scotty Kilmer.
This is just clickbait, if the Audi is the a3 just put it on the title, the s3 is better than the s3 and the s3 doesn't cost 50,000$ stop the bullshit man
There’s no mk7 GLI yet and you can get the push button start, nav, xenon headlights and a few other nice things in a premium package for the GLI at the time I believe? 🤷🏻♀️🤔
Just get a used Audi A3 with low miles. They depreciate by around half the price of a new one as soon as you take it off the lot
I love Audi (I've got the A6 which I'll take all day over the Passat), I live in the Midwest so of course the AWD is preferable. But both cars last forever, well made etc. I think if you have the money, spring for the Audi. The driving experience is over the top and they're beautiful cars.
Gli new autobahn is 35,000$ not 25,000$
I had a 2009 jetta TDI, and was a great car. It was more like a sleeper. It accelerated as fast as audi a6 quattro. It was going 130mph and felt comfortable at that speed. And most important, it costed me only $7800. Loved it! Until VW took it away from me, lol))
NYC_Streets718 why did they took it away from you
Nahhhhhhhh the Jetta GLI is literally ALL character
I honestly would buy the Jetta, but thats just me...
Austin's Garage because you wouldn't be able to afford the S3!😂🤣
Los Pollos Hermanos you don't know him so stfu
Austin since you are used to fine specimens you should buy THIS specific Jetta. BTW I'm pretty sure you'll wanna buy the car from me that I just bought from auction when I'm done with it...
Samcrac yeah? Email me your price for it! I'm always looking for something to add to my Lexus, two Yugos, postal jeep, ramp truck, silverado, and passat lol
Jettas become worthless real fast. Theres a 2016 jetta for $9k near me from a dealer, it doesnt even have alot of miles but i guess thats just how german cars are
Race them together and u will see the difference. Is like u are comparing America(S3) to UK(Jetta). America is far better in any way.
Volkswagen owns Audi so......
I think you could get the S3 to low 3 second 0-60 in less than a few thousand bucks. I have a JB4 that i'm timing in the low 4s and that cost me less than 500.
Sorry, after having owned a 2014 2.0 R-Line Turbo Beetle and now an A3, there is a huge difference between VW and Audi. The Audi is much more comfortable, and even with the same engine, the performance is so much better. The reliability difference is huge too. I had that Beetle in the shop repeatedly for problems with the frameless windows, the keyless entry, you name it, that thing was at the dealership a lot. I knew I couldn't keep it past warrantee. I took the Bug back and my dealer suggested an A3.
Very good suggestion. Years later, I have not had one thing to complain about. Brilliant, fast, reliable car. Was it a little more money-wise? Yeah. But not that much more. Here's what I have spent on my 2015 A3 besides warrantee and AudiCare: $140 for an alignment.
That's it. I haven't even needed to use the factory warrantee for anything. That's the difference you should be talking about. That's what makes Audis worth the money.
25 grand for the brand 😂 of a audi 😂😂😂😂 i bet every rich man hates this video 😂😂😂😂 not to mention ive own multiple volkswagens 😅 right now i got rabbit, and everyone chases me, 😂😂😂😂...
RS3 >>>>>>>>> S3 >>>>>>> A3 > Jetta - why even bother with this comparison?
You can get a supercharged Lada for less than the Jetta!
Kinda like
Honda Civic Si
Acura ILX
Smh same car the Acura is nearly 9k more
Both are VWs hahahaha
Doesn’t matter, both are going to cost you BANK when the electrics go wonky and the DSG fails and the turbo blows due to sludge. Plus that Jetta is a JOKE for 25k... looks like it’s from 2007. I have a newer car in the same class with slightly less HP but has more options for the price.
brycmtthw I like it when ppl think of any german car as unreliable money pit while I still drive my Audi A4 2008 till today with 170k miles lol and with no major problems
NightArrow agreed. My '15 passat is closing in on 80k miles. I did 26k last year. No repairs yet. Higher quality parts are used in german vehicles compared to the asian competition
Audi is to Volkswagen what Lexus is to Toyota. Just an upscale version of their economical cars.
they are the same cars underneath
Joe Gotti here we go another person that thinks they know but really don’t
It’s the same as the a3 not the s3, but the a3 is much more responsive, I own the gli but I’ve driven an A3
I don’t know how this guy could come with this comparison, I would never compare a Volkswagen with an Audi , it’s like comparing an BMW (M760 v12) with a Rolls Royce (Ghost), its all about details , manufacture, quality, experience, etc
About comparisons like these I have two explanation: 1. You didn't drive only by sitting on chassis, gearbox and engine - car has body, interior and a lot of things in summary. 2. Try to stop near night club with Jetta and with S3... :D Money You spend is not only about technical specifications. P.S. The Jetta and the S3 in this video is not the same platform. Golf MK7, not Jetta, has MQB (same like A3/S3).
They are not the same platform, the A3 is actually the golf MK7’s cousin, both the A3 and MK7 Golf are much better cars than the MK6 Jetta.
So you should be comparing the top of the line Golf which is the R and the top of the line A3 which is the RS3, there would be no competition here, the RS3 just kills the R, not saying that the R is a bad car, it’s actually a great car, but the RS3 is a beast of a car.
The new MK7 Jetta (2019) is a different story since it will use the same platform that underprints the A3 and Golf which is Volkswagen group’s MQB platform.
"Em kay" >_< Please it's "mark" and there's no MKVII Jetta yet, that's 2019 for North America and will be on the MQB platform. That is why th eGLI has no character compared to the GTI. Also, a GLI Autobahn DSG is just under $30,000 US dollars.
Oh dont mention the MK4 ! ! ! I wanted the 2002 VW GTI 25th anniversary edition till the end but ended up just with a regular 2002 VW GTI was one amazing car still miss it. Now moving on to my 2012 VW GLI (needed a family car) I really liked it was nice has alot of features but definetly lost character the steering the little drivers car it used to be faded into a well equipt econo. Very well put Samcrac.
Audi A3, VW Jetta and Škoda Octavia are mechanicaly same car. One is made on Inglostadt (or Györ, I know that most Lambo engines are from Györ), one in Wolfsburg and one in Mlada Boleslav.
If you have problem with Audi you can put Škoda parts. These are same parts, from same factory but different tag and therefore different price.
For family man, Octavia is by far best. It is the biggest, the cheapest and much simpler to use.
Reliability wise... yeah, no. It may be fun to drive, luxurious and have the "name", but a company I know bought two and one was always in service. They had to do engine swaps on each car after ~30.000miles. It was ridiculous. The company ended up returning the cars in the end. Don't get me wrong, an old, well-kept Volkswagen will carry on forever. But that applies to very old BMW, Mercedes and Audi as well. But a new Volkswagen is anything but reliable.
S3 is a great car and has a better design.
That Jetta GLI DSG was over $30k sticker new, not $25k. What really sucks about the Jetta is that it doesn't have real leather on the seats, only fake leather throughout (other than the steering wheel and shift knob). The GTI of same generation had leather down middle of seats and vinyl side panels but the Jetta didn't get that. I complained to a VW rep at an auto show about the lack of real leather and he went on about how "it's the finest simulated leather in the industry". Who cares, it's fake and feels like rubber. The leather in my GTI doesn't compare to an Audi A6 2.7T I once owned, but it's a hell of a lot better than fake leather and is still in perfect condition after 6 years of use. Obviously an S3 doesn't compare to the Jetta due to being essentially a Golf R sedan. Much better platform, AWD, higher output, more features, better materials, etc. I certainly wouldn't pay $50k for it though, especially when a pretty loaded Golf R goes for $10K less with same platform and drivetrain.
S3 is Quattro...Jetta is FWD
...Audi is a different platform, then the VW. I don’t know if I’d be comparing these two...now if you had a Golf R next to the Audi that’s a different story. My two cents.
QUATTRO in s3. owning a Audi compared to a vw defo justifies the price difference however am from the uk so i grew up with audi's my dad had a 80. in short term the golf/jetta is a mechanics car and the A3 is the sales reps car that was the 90s/2000.
if you dive a bit deeper you would see audi develops the technology for the VAG group
Audi used to represent class and wealth now like a asshole everybody's got 1 A3 or A5.
they should raise prices and recycle old cars like bmw
You pay for the brand, and interiors in Audis. They are nicer places to be. Audis hold their value more. Tbh, the A/S3 aren't the greatest of Audi's in terms of design and setting apart from VW... The rest of the range however (like Passat:A4 Tiguan:Q5, etc) you can totally tell and feel the difference between the cars.
Hi there are few incorrect facts in your video, 1st you called this Jetta is fully loaded, the Jetta doesn't even fit with Xeon plus head lights so it's not a fully loaded car, 2nd DSG was firstly introduced in 2003-2004 that fitted in mkiv R32 (only in EU market) and mki Audi TT 3.2
The S3 isn’t even close to the A3. Different price, different tune, different power. If you’re gonna say you’re comparing an A3 to a Jetta (which would be a more fair comparison) actually use an A3.
I am sorry, the Jettq is a POS! I had a NEW Jetta, and sold it 6 monthes later. Shit shit car. I get a used 2011 E250 Coupe. No problems in 2 years... Shitty cars will always be sgitty cars...
Should've compared it to the A3 2.0T. Anything you could do to the Jetta to make it better you could do to the Audi. But the Audi has AWD and is roughly only 8 grand more... Audi for the win!
Aren't the audi a3's and jetta chassis the exact same chassis audi just having the mounts for the awd rear subframe and drive shaft etc? kind of like how a FWD DSM and be converted to a awd DSM easily.
I know as soon as I find a wrecked mk7 golf R and swaping my GTI to awd on the down low.
I think that VAG port their previous audi platforms to VW SKODA and SEAT. I used to have a A4 and the engine and gearbox was shared with the Passat. I used to have a Skoda and share the engine with the Jetta and the gearbox with the A3. So if you buy a VW with audi engine and gearbox it must be fun to driver as an audi
GLI vs. S3? More like GLI vs. A3 2.0T model. It would be Golf R vs S3. GLI doesn't have quattro either. Just sayin.
I guess he forgot to include that the Jetta comes with a stock k03. The S3 comes with a K04. Two completely different classes my brother. I would rather compare the GLI with a a A3 S-line.
There is a world of difference between quality and craftsmanship between the two. Not really comparable. Like comparing a Toyota and Hyundai simply because they are both Asian.
I have a 16 Jetta GTI Authobahn, had tons of fun and I am passing it down to my younger brother
I'm looking into either the Golf R or the RS 3, I wouldn't go for a S3 because it's basically the same as a Golf R
You're totally wrong!!! They're not the same car at all. The Audi A3/S3 has a modern MQB platform, however the Jetta has an old platform....
The S3 chassis is based on the Golf GTI/R chassis, the Jetta GLI is just a Golf GTI with a boot, soo losely similar 🤷🏻♂️
The S3 is all wheel drive, the Jetta is front wheel drive, again can't really compare as "the same car"
Performance wise the S3 is closer to the handling/power of a Golf R due to the Haldex all wheel drive system and TFSI engine.
The only car you could compare the Jetta GLI is a Skoda Octavia VRS. That'll be a fair comparison 👍
Comparing a GLI to an S3 is like comparing a Ducati superbike to a reliant robin (Google it) 🙌
In Europe you can by a sub brand called SEAT cheaper than the VW with similar specs and then a sub brand of that called Skoda, again cheaper than the SEAT with similar specs.
It's not fair btw
I wouldn’t buy either new. I’d buy used with low mileage. You get rid of the depreciation when you drive off the lot. So I’d get a used s3 for around $30k. Let’s be honest the s3 is a bit more well put together, sounds better, drives better, looks better.
i have a Jetta GLI with 110,000 miles very reliable car and i was thinking to buy the Audi A3 and the price was over price to much money a better go with the GTI hands down
This is comparing apples to oranges, not the same platform the Jetta shares chassis with a B7 A4, has a smaller output engine and it’s FWD, the S3 sedan is smaller, has a better engine and AWD, so what’s the point ??? It has to cost more
An Audi is an Audi. This is not a Jetta. I.have an A4 2016. I've never think to go on Volks. BMW, maybe. Mercedes also.
Wolkswagen #1
"A downpipe", Ridiculous! Like the 2-5HP(at best; not talking about it sucking up sand and dust) of a downpipe is going to make any difference!
A GLI as a first car?! If you come from money maybe! I EARNED a Wolfsburg Jetta at the age of 32. A realistic aspirational car for most of us.
VW understand that there's a market for the Audi brand ; certain people who refused to drive the " people car" , so they sale an upscale version of it . The Audi is the car you want but the VW is what you can afford.
How is this comparison correct...?! 😂
It's not even the same platform and performance...
A Jetta, 25k new? Never... Probably in a dream...
😂
I hate FWD and Ironically the Golf R is AWD but they neutered it by not letting the driver change it's dynamics so it wouldn't live up to it's true potential.
Jetta gli first car are you crazy a $25000 car in Europe were you have to be 18 years old it’s a expensive car people get a golf gti 2000 not a newish a jetta
What’s he talking about? They both start at the same price and when you build them out, there’s a $5,000 difference?!!!
I don’t mean to hate, but you don’t even sound confident in what your saying. If your going to compare two car don’t compare a broken down piece of shit to a decent car and just say “let’s not think about the fact”.
depending if you want a car that not many own ive seen one yellow night amg gla45 on the road where i live at 100 thousand dollars no one wants to spend that its really expensive for a little hatch ..sort of like every 300 cars you see a Lamborghini
Well I got a 2005 maxima for 1000$can with a power steering thats leakining ... this weakend : making the steering rack manual
You want an S3 and don't want to pay 50k? Get yourself a 2-3 year old S3, price will be much sweeter and you'll pay as for the Jetta.
I have a 2013 vw gli and i’m so excited to be upgrading to an audi. Most likely going to be getting an a4 or s4
Idk, evo x and sti’s are in the low 20’s now in autotrader and cargurus (LA area). I’d choose those cars over the gli and any A series audi or S3.
The 2.0t engine is junk. Don’t think this dude knows the definition of quick. A 3500lb car with 200hp is not fast.
Yea the jetta is the perfect first car, when you have pretty rich and generous parents becouse almost no people who buy their first car have $25000 to spend
No, A3/S3 is the Golf, one class lower than the Jetta. Jetta is the same class as the A4, even though the engine is mounted 90 degrees off.
More importantly, where is he getting brand new GLI Autobahn Edition for $25,000?!!!!
Well the 2013 jetta is a mk6 golf underneath while the new a3/s3/rs3 and golf/gti/golf r are based on MQB
Volkswagen cars are not as well finished as their Audis or as luxurious. They also do not have those all important four rings on the bonnet, boot, steering wheel etc.
you were talking about the jetta all the time although its a comparisson between it and the s3. Where's the s3? Lame, ps jettas are shitty and boring, no reason to be fanatic about them
I can't remember the models, sorry, but back in the early 2000's I worked for a company and the president had the audi (A4 I think) and a salesman had the Jetta. I drove around quite a bit in both and while the audi interior was a little nicer, the cars were identical and as you say here, for half the price. Both liked to show off my ripping through the gears (5 spd), cornering like teenagers etc and to me, there was absolutely NO difference between them.
@Nathan Hudson Especially with actual quattro in the a5 and not haldex
Enjoy more luxurious if you got deep pockets. So basically car you own represents how wealthy you are.
yes... jetta is a fwd, s3 is all wheel drive. jetta still has mk6 gti engine... s3 has a new 3rd gen ea888 engine. this guy needs to do some research...
Maybe next time you make a video make sure the cars are all put together.. you can’t compare a half put you together car to a car that is in better condition....
Yeah, no.
DSG is a dual clutch manual transmition with automatic or semi-manual control.
DSG is not a dual clutch automatic transmition.
this is the most inacurrate and biased review ever lol. and on top of all that, this is a gutted, nasty, gross car this guy owns. take better care of your stuff
Audi is just a Luxery Type
Vs
Volkswagen is just the regular brand
Quattro vs FWD... That's the biggest reason for the price difference.