SCOTUS Considers CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS In Complex OUTDOOR-SLEEPING BAN CASE | Roland Martin

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  • The Supreme Court heard arguments today on whether ticketing homeless people is "cruel and unusual" and violates the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution.
    City and state officials across the country are closely watching the case, which will decide whether the homeless have the right to camp in public places. People who live in those encampments are also following the case, as they are concerned about efforts to criminalize the population rather than build shelters and affordable housing.
    The case is the City of Grants Pass v. Johnson, which was brought by several involuntarily homeless people in Grants Pass, Oregon, who challenged the city's ban on "public camping."
    Justice Sonia Sotomayor grills Grants Pass, Oregon's attorney, Theane Evangelis, why city officials want to enforce criminal penalties for the unhoused.
    Devon Ombres, the Senior Director of Courts and Legal Policy at the Center for American Progress spoke with Roland Martin about this complexed case.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 181

  • @terencew7716
    @terencew7716 16 днів тому +78

    Homelessness SHOULD NOT be criminalized!!

    • @simplesimple6014
      @simplesimple6014 16 днів тому +1

      So then invite them over to your house

    • @terencew7716
      @terencew7716 16 днів тому +3

      @@simplesimple6014 Tiny homes should be built

    • @karenf.8024
      @karenf.8024 16 днів тому +4

      They should offer some options to get shelter instead of criminalizing their situation! Once they get out of jail, the cycle continues! This is cruel and unusual punishment for citizens!

    • @DABIGDAWG001
      @DABIGDAWG001 16 днів тому

      @@simplesimple6014 Respectfully, people like you are just as big of a problem as those who want to criminalize homelessness. It’s sad that you see the problem being with homeless people and not with the system that creates homelessness…especially in the so-called richest country on Earth.

    • @callis8247
      @callis8247 16 днів тому

      Only a demonic person would criminalize homelessness, high minded, puffed up dirty.

  • @mikedewitt5495
    @mikedewitt5495 16 днів тому +57

    The SCOTUS should be abolished.

    • @maddogair
      @maddogair 16 днів тому +6

      Agreed, 💯%

    • @earljohnson8936
      @earljohnson8936 16 днів тому

      Wish it were that easy. Systemic attacks on the homeless is just a step as they continue to weaponize the courts against the majority.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 16 днів тому +1

      Ignoring cases in front of them for Project 2025 Ideology. Party over Country. Alito is horrific.

    • @josieaustring1714
      @josieaustring1714 15 днів тому

      @jannichi6431 I have business, and I will hire a person . I also feed the homeless. A lot of them say they don't want to stop drugs and alcohol.

  • @martalopez582
    @martalopez582 16 днів тому +32

    Spend monies instead on housing rather than criminalizing the homeless who suffer enough being homeless. Discriminating the unhoused is just that.

  • @sweepyourspeech8350
    @sweepyourspeech8350 16 днів тому +21

    This is appalling

  • @billy6427
    @billy6427 16 днів тому +24

    I expect this Criminal Court to Rule Against the Common man and the Poor

  • @lindatauhid9958
    @lindatauhid9958 16 днів тому +43

    Despicable practice-criminalizing homelessness.

  • @mikeyspice3349
    @mikeyspice3349 16 днів тому +35

    I live in the UK
    Ridiculous.
    How can a system ticket people when they are homeless!!!!!
    So what happens when debt is racked up to the point with interest, overtime can lead to further debt or I assume go to jail or whatever.
    Then when they get intermitant work, pay taxes & wages garnished to pay off debts further ensuring they can't maybe eat , buy basic necessities , or even save for their own place!!!!!
    It's a disgrace!!!!!!!
    It's as ludicrous as slavery
    What more can be said.

  • @frankieclayton9303
    @frankieclayton9303 16 днів тому +5

    Homelessness should not be criminalized

  • @taichi29
    @taichi29 16 днів тому +40

    Why don't they try to help them get some kind of help, so they don't have to live on the street. This country is shameful.

    • @lynnmcclary
      @lynnmcclary 16 днів тому +7

      I agree, the rent is ridiculous

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 16 днів тому +2

      Many dont want their help.

    • @irenegalvan7996
      @irenegalvan7996 16 днів тому

      Yes it is

    • @fmissingsh
      @fmissingsh 16 днів тому

      But yet they'll give illegal immigrants housing and hotels debit cards with money on them and find them jobs. Outrageous they care nothing about the US citizens.

    • @zhivago3633
      @zhivago3633 15 днів тому

      WTF ARE YOU DOING?

  • @maddogair
    @maddogair 16 днів тому +33

    Why are we still bringing cases to this corrupt court?

  • @reginashaw4602
    @reginashaw4602 16 днів тому +29

    Plot twist.what if their corrupt ass lost their job and became homeless?

    • @zhivago3633
      @zhivago3633 15 днів тому +1

      Plot twist what if you let homeless camp in your house and yard.

  • @ranrod8641
    @ranrod8641 16 днів тому +31

    How can the criminals criminalize the homeless?

  • @Marvel-Rogue
    @Marvel-Rogue 16 днів тому +24

    How can you criminalize being homeless 🏚 its already enough bad that they're torn out torn down rotten out places in the 🇺🇸 already putting homeless depressed and/or mentally ill people in jails doesn't help any. Thanks for reading i know my writing isn't the best but im working on it ✌🏽

    • @sherribatko8981
      @sherribatko8981 16 днів тому +3

      @Marvel-Rogue - Don't worry about your writing, it's the thought that counts
      You have a good heart ❤❤❤

    • @joemincer8882
      @joemincer8882 16 днів тому +3

      Right on, RIGHT ON!

  • @thehoboman
    @thehoboman 16 днів тому +6

    Instead of addressing insanely high housing costs they think the solution is to criminalize poverty.. wtf?

  • @uniongal50
    @uniongal50 16 днів тому +16

    Instead of sending money to help other countries take care of US citizens. No you don’t target homeless people

  • @leejones1016
    @leejones1016 16 днів тому +10

    Everyone who considers this BS , should consider themselves! I could be you!!

  • @choppastyle6030
    @choppastyle6030 16 днів тому +9

    You can't make this up you will be arrested for sleeping in public and we got all these guns on the street 😭😭😭😤😤😤

  • @leejones1016
    @leejones1016 16 днів тому +8

    Well they should spend the money they are receiving illegally to build homes for them!!

  • @lottieharris7706
    @lottieharris7706 16 днів тому +13

    I live in Oregon and it cheaper to live here but the pay grade is so low that I had to get help for rent this month's. Plus there elderly employees that still need to work. Like me.

  • @mstunameow
    @mstunameow 16 днів тому +5

    Thank you for covering this RM

  • @jeannieves6275
    @jeannieves6275 16 днів тому +4

    How heartless

  • @philthai99
    @philthai99 16 днів тому +1

    SCOTUS should be abolished.

  • @teresakelton8286
    @teresakelton8286 16 днів тому +2

    It’s just ridiculous to fine the homeless!

  • @MrMetro-mt5qv
    @MrMetro-mt5qv 16 днів тому +8

    Welcome To The Terrordome.

  • @freshlysaltedfishing8500
    @freshlysaltedfishing8500 16 днів тому +6

    Debtors prison never went away. Child support is a prime example. But the thought of giving a citation to someone who can't afford a place to lay dow is outrageous where are they gonna get the money?

  • @azziegalloway7547
    @azziegalloway7547 16 днів тому +8

    Do that go for the homeless migration if they fall asleep wow we have military people who are homeless people who get put out of homes with children and mental health people do they get jailed also I think these folks are using their jobs to help keep the jails full.

  • @ladiikay819
    @ladiikay819 16 днів тому +2

    Wow, Lord have mercy! This is a sad state of affairs we are in

  • @PASTRACING
    @PASTRACING 16 днів тому +4

    This has got To be a joke! Wow! If it isn't enough that these people can't get the help they need but, now they want to compound these people's situation by criminalizing the fact that they simply need help! No Humanity whatsoever!

  • @johnallenbailey1103
    @johnallenbailey1103 16 днів тому +2

    If you don't pay fines, you will going to jail.

  • @rohiniguiland4873
    @rohiniguiland4873 16 днів тому +3

    So they want to justify spending money putting homeless people in jail instead of giving them a home?

    • @marcelladillard3556
      @marcelladillard3556 16 днів тому

      Ever wonder why the USA has such a huge incarceration? Money is KING here. They try to pitt the immigrants against us so we focus on each other and not on the puppet masters.

  • @elanmackey7892
    @elanmackey7892 16 днів тому +4

    It will overcrowd the jails

  • @MrHello-nx4xs
    @MrHello-nx4xs 16 днів тому +4

    This sounds like enforcing the “black codes” vagrant and loitering laws.

  • @ernestclary6035
    @ernestclary6035 16 днів тому +12

    Vote blue and stop this insanity

    • @simplesimple6014
      @simplesimple6014 16 днів тому

      Ain't blue in right now what are you talking about how about all the immigrants running all over the place you like that

    • @oyn5868
      @oyn5868 16 днів тому

      This has nothing to do with red are blue. The whole country is going threw this

  • @user-if4df7lk1z
    @user-if4df7lk1z 16 днів тому +4

    How are they going to pay for tickets? Which will lead to more incarceration. Thus, more money will be required for prisons. Instead of putting that money into day shelters, it will go to increasing the penal complex.

  • @rdavis219dz
    @rdavis219dz 15 днів тому +1

    Wow... Sad... 😲😢

  • @TrekCannon
    @TrekCannon 16 днів тому +5

    We head more and more towards The Bell Riots. ST:DS9😢

  • @AuroStorm
    @AuroStorm 16 днів тому +2

    These people are homeless. How do they expect them to pay a fine? What penalties will there be if they don't pay? Jail? If you are gonna put them in the system and give them a cot and 3 square meals, it would be a better idea to build more homeless shelters. I cannot believe how cruel people are to those in need.

  • @DoralDude
    @DoralDude 16 днів тому +1

    People on the streets are already paying a heavy price!

  • @healingsoul13
    @healingsoul13 16 днів тому +5

    Land of the free..... If you van afford it.

  • @sr2291
    @sr2291 16 днів тому +2

    When did homeless people begin living in tents? I was homeless off and on for 7 years. Had a backpack and a sleeping bag with my stuff. Cleaned up and never trashed the area.

    • @marcelladillard3556
      @marcelladillard3556 16 днів тому

      It's an epidemic with entire families living cars etc. Well their plan is working: Get voting folks angry enough about the camps plus nobody wants affordable housing or halfway houses in their neighborhoods so criminalizing is the next logical step. Has one blasted mental facility been re-opened? Current drug rehabilitation prgrams are often the spoils of bloated insurance companies. Forget about our travesty of a medical system creating free programs. Sure, the mega churches can afford to rehab & build health/mental facilities but evangelicals have proven their agenda is conversion.

  • @user-nd3tg5zn1b
    @user-nd3tg5zn1b 16 днів тому +2

    This is such BS because this country has money 💴 for everything except helping the people of this country!!! 😢

  • @user-if4df7lk1z
    @user-if4df7lk1z 16 днів тому +2

    According to the federal government, not having an address with your name on it is homeless!!!!!

    • @user-if4df7lk1z
      @user-if4df7lk1z 15 днів тому

      If the parents are homeless, their children are homeless.

  • @user-tx3st7yf3n
    @user-tx3st7yf3n 16 днів тому +1

    Don’t they have more important issues to address? Really, criminalizing homelessness! Find a way to help them! This is cruel and inhumane.

  • @REVYMERCENARY
    @REVYMERCENARY 15 днів тому +2

    Maybe if we had affordable tiny home living for people we wouldn't be having this problem

  • @scroogemcduckrich9705
    @scroogemcduckrich9705 16 днів тому +2

    lets making housing and food unattainable and lets criminalize the inability to attain it

  • @frankieclayton9303
    @frankieclayton9303 16 днів тому +3

    This judges are going to be held accountable for these unlawful rules just like it says in Isaiah 10:1-4

  • @biglwilliams1892
    @biglwilliams1892 16 днів тому +2

    95 billion dollars Would help Americans. Hmmmmm! Strang how we can spend money in other countries but not America. Really strange!

  • @johnnyjones5826
    @johnnyjones5826 10 днів тому

    The C.E.Os of private prisons are looking forward for this 💯

  • @aiciawilson9064
    @aiciawilson9064 16 днів тому +2

    Charity begins at home and spreads abroad. Why don't they do for this country, what they have been doing for other countries afar. Why don't they find solutions to the problems they've created by not raising cost of living when they don't raise people's wages and sources of income to be compatible with everything else. Why don't they create real solutions that impact real problems.

  • @VIsidore
    @VIsidore 16 днів тому

    Of course, according to SCOTUS.

  • @stevewilliams4648
    @stevewilliams4648 15 днів тому

    They already did that in Tennessee like a year ago. Sleeping outside is a felony here punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Also, if you have a felony, you cannot go to a homeless shelter.

  • @sweepyourspeech8350
    @sweepyourspeech8350 16 днів тому +2

    I dwell with Gia, My mother from eternity!

  • @frankieclayton9303
    @frankieclayton9303 16 днів тому +1

    Woe to those who make unjust laws Isaiah chapter 10 verse 1 through 4

  • @stevengreenwade4802
    @stevengreenwade4802 15 днів тому

    They are a sad batch of people, the ones at the top!

  • @howardmulvihill6726
    @howardmulvihill6726 16 днів тому +3

    Because Biden has helped out local ranchers, I have a job. However the owners and many coworkers are meaga supporters. I keep my mouth shut because I need the job so bad.

  • @jeannieves6275
    @jeannieves6275 16 днів тому +1

    So only wealthy
    Developers get
    Financial
    Assistance
    For Luxury Homes
    And Condos
    Unfair and Unbalanced

  • @poetsandrhymers9018
    @poetsandrhymers9018 16 днів тому

    Building shelters brings them no profits.

  • @scroogemcduckrich9705
    @scroogemcduckrich9705 16 днів тому

    ticketing people with no money it’s like they want people to revolt

  • @dohseyes5744
    @dohseyes5744 16 днів тому

    No one is safe, they are going after everybody. A person once told me that the majority of people are serial and it’s making me think.

  • @user-if4df7lk1z
    @user-if4df7lk1z 16 днів тому

    The question is, who is going to pay for their medication!!!!!? Which will be expensive because the federal government is not able to negotiate mental health drug cost.

  • @whytehunter5050
    @whytehunter5050 16 днів тому

    I get tired of hearing people say if we can.This system is built to do ALL of this illegal 💩

  • @jessitaran763
    @jessitaran763 15 днів тому

    Let's be clear about this... the real issue here is POVERTY. Homelessness is just the result of not having enough money to pay rent. What this kind of law would do would predicate a person's right to exist upon how much money they have.

  • @Arce79
    @Arce79 16 днів тому

    5:30-6:48💯

  • @teresakelton8286
    @teresakelton8286 16 днів тому +1

    Why do you want to criminalize homelessness people?

  • @jannichi6431
    @jannichi6431 16 днів тому +1

    Even when the Federal Government appropriates money for Homelessness, it doesnt seem to get through (diwn to) the homeless. Grants are absorbed by NGOs and 501c(3)s and religious charities. Scandinavian countries do paroles and homeless the correct way, half way shelters.

  • @jeannieves6275
    @jeannieves6275 16 днів тому

    What is HUD doing

    • @KS-vd3cv
      @KS-vd3cv 14 днів тому

      Not much. They are underfunded and have been since Reagan. Moreover, NIMBY is powerful.

  • @mrbrainchild7637
    @mrbrainchild7637 16 днів тому +1

    5:38 *Exhorbitant?

  • @healingsoul13
    @healingsoul13 16 днів тому +1

    This law will turn police loose to abuse the poor. (Like they don't abuse them enough now.)

  • @dirtyenergywar7029
    @dirtyenergywar7029 16 днів тому +4

    Ah yes, those "Christian values"...🙄

  • @Mr104D
    @Mr104D 16 днів тому

    I live in the democrat state of California where homelessness has become a major crisis. With that being said, I can understand how drug addiction can be one of the roots causes because in my state drug users are able to gain public access to crack pipes and needles from certain programs, public dispensers on the streets and even placed in apartment buildings and if this country is gonna criminalize homeless ppl that are addicted to drugs then I say criminalize the ppl/groups that’s behind those type of programs that publicly distributes drug paraphernalia too

  • @josieaustring1714
    @josieaustring1714 16 днів тому

    Some of them have to go to a drug program, and they don't want to get off of drug. What do you do if they don't want the help?

    • @ronnelson930
      @ronnelson930 15 днів тому

      *most Americans live paycheck to paycheck, they miss one paycheck and they're homeless including family members like children, what do you do with them? how about disabled veterans or teenagers transferring out of adoption agencies put out on the street*

  • @KracjerNan
    @KracjerNan 16 днів тому +1

    Yo, it's expensive to be homeless. Not allowed to be nomadic? It was nuce to see people during the pandemic freak out, 😂 as a homeless person ive never seen an overly obese person on the street.

  • @PardonYou
    @PardonYou 16 днів тому

    i can tell most people in the comments read the title, stay for two minutes max, and leave.

  • @erniebelton7509
    @erniebelton7509 16 днів тому

    😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @joeystillpoppin1173
    @joeystillpoppin1173 15 днів тому +1

    Perhaps homeless people should have total immunity after all it's not a crime not like the previous president acting on personal gain !

  • @johnnyatoms3620
    @johnnyatoms3620 14 днів тому

    INSTEAD OF RELEIF FOR HARDSHIPS SUFFERED BY THE HOMELESS, DESANTIS MEETS THEM WITH CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT !
    GRANTS PASS WANTS TO DO THE SAME !
    Every injustice, is over something else, being of worth, than one another's well-being....
    THAT'S THE REAL CRIME !
    WHO'S NOT WORTHY OF WELL-BEING....?
    ARE YOU WORTHY....?
    Have no other worth (God), besides Me, to rival Me....
    Where one another is of worth, there is no cost.... it's Priceless !
    TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED....

  • @billharris3154
    @billharris3154 16 днів тому

    Reparations would help solve the homeless problem, but you don’t believe in giving people what owed them.

    • @GregLakatosChradm
      @GregLakatosChradm 16 днів тому

      So would a job LOL!!!! Your welfare mentality is showing.

  • @Nick-kk9ei
    @Nick-kk9ei 16 днів тому

    Have to think about israel, ukraine and the migrants in newyork first. Homeless americans come last.The irony is crazzzzy.

  • @angirgie729
    @angirgie729 12 днів тому

    Like why cant the homeless get the kinds of help the illegals or migrants are getting?

  • @dancun3878
    @dancun3878 16 днів тому +1

    Jesus was homeless

  • @kevinforeman4485
    @kevinforeman4485 16 днів тому

    Homelessness??? Ummmm, how much war support (Ukraine) and genocide support
    (Isreal) did America give out again?? Whats that number??? Not millions, billions?? There are homeless people where now???

  • @scroogemcduckrich9705
    @scroogemcduckrich9705 16 днів тому +1

    SCOTUS SHOULD NOT BE A LIFE APPOINTMENT THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

  • @calvinr.johnsonjr.9076
    @calvinr.johnsonjr.9076 16 днів тому

    So Martin unrelated topic I got hit with a bunch of black Republican nonsense. Didnt know you was Haitian bruh. They out here making a bunch of comments hoping something sticks on you man. I mean being Haitian isn't an insult but they are making crazy claims on your name uncle Ro

  • @user-ed9qr1uj6f
    @user-ed9qr1uj6f 14 днів тому

    Wheelchair Access to the court president policy holder stolen child stolen identity USDA home disability phone gov office policy holder stolen

  • @user-ed9qr1uj6f
    @user-ed9qr1uj6f 14 днів тому

    Look don't need to redacted it needs to be reckoned with adatitle2 x 3 retaliation deliberately constitutional violation wheelchair Access control rear-ended in Austin Texas moving force to be reckoned with

  • @choppastyle6030
    @choppastyle6030 16 днів тому

    😮😮😮😮🔒⛓️🔒👀👀👀‼️

  • @billharris3154
    @billharris3154 16 днів тому

    Roland you are begging for the wrong thing, you keep on missing the Key point of reparations. start fighting for what is owed black folk. In the states that’s a $19 trillion bag at the least and there will be money for you and others like you to have a better media presence. If you don’t have it better media presence we and they know that you don’t have it but you will never have it as long as you don’t have the capital and the resources to purchase what you need in a capitalist society. Please fight for the money that is owed for you and blacks around the world as well as those who are here. Anything else is just a complaint from a beggar for a bag, get what is owed.

  • @GregLakatosChradm
    @GregLakatosChradm 16 днів тому

    Quit feeding them. Let them work for their food like everyone else. Until we reprogram these people to take care of themselves you are just spinning your wheels.

  • @lovegrace3719
    @lovegrace3719 16 днів тому

    While you guys are fighting over which Caucasian should be president, you've also ignored my plea to become the next US President yet claiming yourself to be pro African-American. African-Americans didn't step up when I stepped up to be president. You see, the homeless problem wouldn't be as it is now had you listened to me because my plan would be to simply tax the billionaire's and build shelters to eliminate the homelessness while creating jobs for abled homeless people. But maybe because my stance is against abortion and lgbtq plus, you did not even think to consider me. Maybe because my stance is also against RACISM, you did not even think to consider me. As the Lord God told the prophet Samuel, They did not reject you, but they've rejected ME (GOD).
    Repent and Surrender your hearts and minds to Jesus Christ.
    The Blessed Lord and Savior Jesus Christ shall soon return. Amen.

  • @zhivago3633
    @zhivago3633 16 днів тому +3

    EVERYONE IS OK WITH THIS CRAP UNTIL ITS IN YOUR AREA. I don't want homeless people camping, begging, and drugging in my area. If y'all are so offended INVITE THEM IN YOUR PLACE.

    • @progKansas
      @progKansas 16 днів тому +6

      If we make low income housing you would see less of it.

    • @mstunameow
      @mstunameow 16 днів тому

      You sound like a real sob

    • @mstunameow
      @mstunameow 16 днів тому +6

      I live in downtown philadelphia i got homeless people 200 ft from my door, they know everybody in the neighborhood, they're super kind. So, no, not everybody is as heartless and judgmental as you

    • @sherribatko8981
      @sherribatko8981 16 днів тому +5

      @zhivago3633 ' You have no idea what life has in store for you
      You could lose everything in the blink of an eye
      And you can be homeless

    • @joemincer8882
      @joemincer8882 16 днів тому +2

      ​@@sherribatko8981Right on, RIGHT ON!.

  • @JeffGrimes-bo4cc
    @JeffGrimes-bo4cc 15 днів тому +1

    The poor media stands up for the real people struggling every day from the moscow republican party vote blue

  • @JeffGrimes-bo4cc
    @JeffGrimes-bo4cc 15 днів тому +1

    Every day the rich get rich er and the republican party dont care how many people they syab in the back head along as nobody i. Thier family