After 7 attempts at the 4 planet nice Model, I can confirm that Uranus will naturally migrate to its current position but, Neptune will always fail to do so. In its failure, Neptune may or may not cause the Jovian-Saturnanian Resonance chain to break. That will toss the outer solar system into chaos as Jupiter and Saturn try to restore order. At least one of the ice giants will be ejected or destroyed as a result
No creo que sea posible replicar el modelo teniendo en cuenta solamente los 8 planetas, seguramente haga falta incluir un noveno planeta o un cinturon de kuiper primordial afuera de la orbita de neptuno conteniendo decenas de veces la masa de la tierra en forma de gas y planetesimales.
@@Jintyandpugstudios356 Not even a 5 planet Nice Model works in my case. Turns out, the solution is a 6 planet Model. I posted it on my channel as I created and ran my own simulation of it.
How to know if a planet is about to get ejected: 1: Orbits beyond Saturn 2: Orbit crosses Jupiter's orbit 3: It's only a matter of time before a close encounter with Jupiter causes the ejection...
Very late comment, but how did you run the simulation so fast? Did you simply speed up the video or did you turn down the accuracy, or is there something else?
If I recall, I ran these simulations at 250 yrs/sec and then sped the videos up, so the part where it's 4,000 yrs/sec would have been sped up x16. I could have ran them at faster speeds in-game, but then as you say, accuracy would be hampered. I tried simulations with 500 yr/sec in-game and it doesn't work. Orbits look polygonal rather than circular because US2 has to cut corners to perform at that speed, so bodies miss crucial interactions with each other and nothing really happens.
Okay so what happened is Jupiter's orbit had barely any changes, Saturn's orbit migrated outwards a little more, Uranus became the fifth giant and Neptune was tossed and played around. I get it why you should NEVER put an object beyond Saturn's orbit as it will pull it inward and Jupiter will eject it outwards. These two giants are NOT to be messed with!
uranus was the only one to get ejected in the simulation neptune's moderately eccentric orbit might make you think that it's getting ejected but it didn't
The Demystifying Science podcast added a scenario: Sol forms from two stars hitting and merging with each other. Perhaps two identical planetary systems?
I sewar planets is Mercury Venus earth mars jupiter saturn uranus neptune pluto oh his a Dwarf planet planet 9 planet 10 fifth giant sixth giant planet V
Those feels you get when a planet gets a super-eccentric orbit, knowing that it's going to be ejected in a few more orbits...
sedna...
earlier i ran a simulation and 2 planets were somehow half orbiting
After 7 attempts at the 4 planet nice Model, I can confirm that Uranus will naturally migrate to its current position but, Neptune will always fail to do so. In its failure, Neptune may or may not cause the Jovian-Saturnanian Resonance chain to break. That will toss the outer solar system into chaos as Jupiter and Saturn try to restore order. At least one of the ice giants will be ejected or destroyed as a result
No creo que sea posible replicar el modelo teniendo en cuenta solamente los 8 planetas, seguramente haga falta incluir un noveno planeta o un cinturon de kuiper primordial afuera de la orbita de neptuno conteniendo decenas de veces la masa de la tierra en forma de gas y planetesimales.
@@davidalejandromunerabetanc9932that’s true. The traditional nice model only works if Planet X/9 is added near saturns orbit.
@@Jintyandpugstudios356 Not even a 5 planet Nice Model works in my case. Turns out, the solution is a 6 planet Model. I posted it on my channel as I created and ran my own simulation of it.
How to know if a planet is about to get ejected:
1: Orbits beyond Saturn
2: Orbit crosses Jupiter's orbit
3: It's only a matter of time before a close encounter with Jupiter causes the ejection...
or a sedna orbit
Very late comment, but how did you run the simulation so fast? Did you simply speed up the video or did you turn down the accuracy, or is there something else?
If I recall, I ran these simulations at 250 yrs/sec and then sped the videos up, so the part where it's 4,000 yrs/sec would have been sped up x16.
I could have ran them at faster speeds in-game, but then as you say, accuracy would be hampered. I tried simulations with 500 yr/sec in-game and it doesn't work. Orbits look polygonal rather than circular because US2 has to cut corners to perform at that speed, so bodies miss crucial interactions with each other and nothing really happens.
I love how uranus left the Solar system
And I love how before all this happened Jupiter and Juno migrated inwards and birthed you and your siblings which means Juno is your mom
For a while the orbit of uranus was inside the orbit of jupiter wtf
Did you ment Neptune in Saturn's Orbit?
@@Bendygamer99 no uranus in jupiter's
For only 2/3 seconds
Ooo ooh ok
How did Neptune avoid getting gobbled up by Saturn?
Okay so what happened is Jupiter's orbit had barely any changes, Saturn's orbit migrated outwards a little more, Uranus became the fifth giant and Neptune was tossed and played around.
I get it why you should NEVER put an object beyond Saturn's orbit as it will pull it inward and Jupiter will eject it outwards. These two giants are NOT to be messed with!
why you take uranus at the last place?
Hey Persony, any way you could put the AU’s or orbital times of the planets in the descriptions??
What if this become a reality?
How did Neptune wind up so wonky??
Is Any planet getting Ejected
uranus was the only one to get ejected in the simulation
neptune's moderately eccentric orbit might make you think that it's getting ejected but it didn't
Uranus got kick by nonexistent
Looks like Uranus’ orbit is orbiting as well🤷♂️🤷♂️
not gonna lie this is actually scary
Atleast neptune migrated outwards than uranus
Rip Jupiter keep bullying 5th and 6th now Uranus and Neptune
Looks like the Nibiru orbit.
The Demystifying Science podcast added a scenario: Sol forms from two stars hitting and merging with each other. Perhaps two identical planetary systems?
7:51 ?
I’m the king of this nice model😎
*Queen
@@marcusscience23what if they’re not a female?
The girl must be princess
I sewar planets is Mercury Venus earth mars jupiter saturn uranus neptune pluto oh his a Dwarf planet planet 9 planet 10 fifth giant sixth giant planet V
Orbit Uranus is for Neptune,And Neptune Orbit is for Uranus
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