My Problem with Pixar
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- An opinionated video where I address my issues with the "new" Pixar and why it will never be as iconic as the post-Up films.
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I’m so fucking happy they didn’t make a 2nd Wall-E. Wall-E has always been my favorite Pixar movie, and I don’t want them to ruin it. I don’t want them to ruin the magic of the first movie.
iHypnos - Walle has and probably will be one of the best movies I have ever seen. Being a sixteen year old girl, my friends think I'm crazy, saying that walle is a bad movie, and UP is the real masterpiece, 'as it made them cry'. Walle never made me cry, but just to see the hope that he brings to mindless people, and his humanity towards everything, is beautiful.
@@kalejuice9370 Walle and Ratatouille are my two favorite pixar movies. They don't have any secret plan for the audience like to make them cry or to satisfy us with another sequel. Walle and Ratatouille are simply movies that tell a story.
@k ? incredibles 2 wasn't a cash grab tho. Brad Bird truly cared to make a great sequel, and it just didnt work out. It happens. And Toy Story 4 definetly didnt suck. It ended Woody's arc and the series perfectly
@@kalejuice9370 fuck you, stop passing off an opinion as a fact. Wall-e isn't the best movie you have ever seen it's your favorite. I also love the movie though.
Why does no one take Shrek seriously, what did Shrek ever do to yall
kept making movies after the 2nd
@@HODMinistry The 4th was pretty good I don't know what you're talking about.
The whole series is good and no one can tell me otherwise
The 3rd and 4th sucked
@@paperchasindude6578 *THE 4TH WAS FUCKING GREAT*
I'm actually a gigantic Pixar fan, and once you said anything post-Up was somewhat bad, I was ready to quit the video. However you do make a pretty valid point when you say "Pixar trying to make Pixar films" albeit, I still disagree with you on some level as Toy Story 3 is one of the best things Pixar has made.
Keith Dwyer. I disagree with that. It was just one movie and even still Toy Story 3 is a retread of Toy Story 2.
+Comment it has plot elements in common with TS2 but calling it a retread is such an oversimplification . It uniquely has it's own story.
it has plot element in common with the walking dead season 3
Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/dXC_205E3Og/v-deo.html
Might change your thoughts on post-Up films from Pixar.
Lyn damn it's almost as if art is subjective
i politely disagree with 98% of this video
George Fonseca Thank you for being polite instead of just typing that you disagree in capslock
THIS IS GEHRBAJ
George Fonseca that's nice.
Bug's, fish, rats, are not inanimate objects.
And I heard meh things about Good Dinosaur.
There were two things I took away from this video and that's 1) Pixar has fallen into the Franchise Hole and 2) their original projects are now tailored to making the audience cry. I agree with the former. Here's what I have to say to the latter. Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, Monster's Inc., and WALL-E all have scenes meant to tug at your heartstrings like a revved up chainsaw. The notion that their modus operandi has changed since Up feels more like there's something else in your personal bias that needs to be further analyzed. I think the real argument being made here is that the way their storytelling has evolved has led you to feel a sense of artifice with regards to its sadder emotional beats... May I counter with the idea that you have simply matured and become more consciously aware of story structure and filmmaking to the point where you're now able to notice the beats happening and techniques being used?
And I guess my other question is, is your personal taste that Pixar films should use sadness as an appetizer rather than an entree? I feel that the directors are simply more introspective and maybe even melancholy than they used to be and it's being reflected in the films they make (see interviews with Pete Docter). Personally, I don't have a problem with Pixar making films meant to give the audience catharsis, as long as (like Inside Out) I can tell it comes from a place of sincerity.
UltimateKyuubiFox I'm fast as fuck boy
UltimateKyuubiFox i
This. I have always felt that the quintessential Pixar moments that make audiences cry can be so manipulative and forced. Since I was a kid, I've felt this way about a lot of Pixar and even Disney films. I agree that that's not always bad, but sometimes I just want to watch a movie about talking ants, you know? It's like the cinematic equivalent to going to a shrink.
Yeah, I think what makes you feel is deeply subjective. Like, Satoshi Kon's Millennium Actress gets me every time. It gets to a lot of people, but I don't really get emotional about a lot of movies. The reason this one does? It's because I strongly relate to it on a personal level; something in Chiyoko's character and her conflict reminds me of who I am at my very core. I definitely don't think everyone who watches that movie feels the same way about it.
UltimateKyuubiFox Here's the thing, that first point isn't remotely true.
Opinion: Inside Out is my all-time favorite movie. I've never seen a more beautiful climax. Joy, realizing the importance of Sadness, voluntarily gives up her core memories - her lifelines to Riley's happiness - and watches as Riley breaks down crying. Everything that once brought her joy is now shrouded in sadness, because she realizes it's all gone. Sadness, finally given her chance to express herself to Riley's parents, is granted catharsis when they sympathize with Riley and embrace her. Sadness pulls Joy back to the control panel: "Look. She can be happy again." A tear falls, a new core memory is established - joyful and sad - and Riley continues her natural emotional development, knowing that she still has her family's love.
I disagreed with most of what you said, but it was still interesting to hear a different perspective. Thanks :-)
BookieShay Mature comment 👏👏
Michelle Wanha Haha, thank you☺
Imagine if everyone thought like you. Man, what a great world that would be.
Anti Riku Yeah, it could have been nice... But people tend to get defensive when others say something negative about the things they love. It's frustrating, but you learn to avoid arguments that don't have a point.
Check this review out: ua-cam.com/video/dXC_205E3Og/v-deo.html
Might change your thoughts on post-Up Pixar films.
Yes, it's quite troubling most of what Pixar is producing are sequels. See, I think the problem Pixar is facing is what the rest of Hollywood is infected with - sequel fatigue. Pixar is making movies and stories that we've already seen like you said, and are forcing the story to continue, even though they ended quite nicely and solidly in their first movie (such as Finding Nemo).
However, I am all for Incredibles 2. Why? Because that sequel, I believe is needed. It's not a forced continuation of the first movie, rather it's a needed addition. Maybe you can make a future video about when are sequels are appropiate? :D
Shaina Gonzales That couldn't be more wrong. They aren't "forcing" anything, they're making movies that they believe deserve to be made.
+Ryan Paye: If you think about Toy Story 3 the forcing becomes clear. Toy Story 3's whole theme was letting go and moving on from your childhood, and Woody's arc was essentially him realising that he'd have to let go of Andy, but that didn't mean he wouldn't be happy. You can't make a sequel to a film ABOUT LETTING GO and expect it to not feel forced. TS3 answered every question you could want because, really, it'd play out with Bonnie the same way it played out with Andy - which we've already seen.
Shaina Gonzales Yeah Incredibles ended like it was meant to have more to it like how the first Star Wars movie was back in the late 70's.
I agree. Sometimes sequels are needed and with incredibles 2, I am excited to see what they do differently. Even Brad Bird said that he would make a sequel only if it was gonna be as good if not better than the first one.
Hollywood has the problem that production costs keep rising. We were told years ago that 3D animation would lower costs after a huge investment. But go look at a list of Pixar films and you see a steady rise in production costs. To the point that the top 10 most expensive animated films of all time are all 3D films by Pixar and Disney, each one at or above $200 million (not even counting marketing). And when a company is spending that much money making a film, they are afraid to take a risk. So what does a major production company do when they're afraid? Copy what worked before and try to replicate it! That means...sequels and remakes.
Hollywood needs to go back to the days where they make lower cost, higher risk movies. Instead of putting $200 million behind one film, make 5 films for $40 million each. Then if one or two of them don't do well, you still have the others to fall back on. But if you spend $250 million to make Cars 7: The Search for Speed and it doesn't do well, you're entire company is in trouble. Disney should have learned this already with John Carter, Black Hole and a myriad of others. Yet they're in the middle of repeating it with Star Wars.
lol i felt the exact opposite about whiplash compared to Lala land
Bryson Logie not me, la la Land is my favorite movie :p
Bryson Logie same
it all has to do with your experiences in life.
@@AllisonGhost true, I used to have a basketball coach that resembled fetcher (of course not to that extent) but it made me correlate so much with the film that it has become one of my favorites. While I couldn't correlate with la la land so I liked it less.
me too
I don't really get how Inside Out suddenly became this punching bag in the video. Like somehow personifying and visualizing the world of emotions makes for a studio that's not trying hard enough?
Not once did he mention my favorite pixar movie: Ratatouille
Same
I hope you guys saw his pixar ranked video
because there is no problem with it
He mentioned it in the part when he told about the show dont tell
Gavin Collins 2:17
No movie has affected me as emotionally as inside out though, except up it's probably my favourite animated movie. As a person suffering with depression I think it affected me way more, because even if it might seem obvious and like they're just trying to make us cry, that movie depicts a realistic depression. Depression is fucking horrible and that's why the movie is sad as fuck, it's just a sad topic.
Same I have depression too, too
Couldn't agree more. Most people would say the Bing Bong bit was saddest but I think I was a wreck from the moment the first "personality island" collapsed. The advertisement gave very little away so I wasn't expecting it but I just kinda knew that's what they were going for with the whole "can't feel joy, and bye bye personality" thing.
Hans Bing bong is a loss of childhood, which everyone can relate to, that's why most see it as the saddest. While people with depression will relate much more to the loss of emotion and personality, which is why we see the personality islands as the saddest part. And the sense of wanting to run away, like Riley did, in a hope that it will make it all better
No no, I totally understand Bing Bong's purpose when it came to emotional arcs (as well as themes about growing-up, there's also a sort of nostalgia point in there too - similar to the end of Toy Story 3 - only it's more for 'the things I used to love but have forgotten about' rather than stuff you regularly revisit, which is probably sadder tbh. Plus he sacrificed himself for the protag which will affect those still in their childhood). I think, though, not finding the steady lapse into depression as emotionally charged comes from a lack of understanding as to what depression actually is rather than "can't empathise because I don't have depression"?
Hans yes I agree, I think this movie kind of found everyone's weak spot in a way, and poked it. I think it explained very well how depression is like, even for those who have not themselves experienced it, and how the answer to it isnt always what we think it is (accepting your sadness and doing something about it, instead of forcing yourself to be fake happy) in the Swedish movie sadness isn't called sadness, she's called vemod, which is a mix of sadness and happiness, the kind of feeling you get when you have to give your dog away to someone else because you're allergic, but know that it will live happily in the new family too, the textbook definition is "(negative) calm feeling that something emotionally (positively) significant is over and never will be back" and I think that word encapsulates the movie perfectly. Sad to see so much hate on it, but glad to find someone else who also likes it
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I still gotta give credit to Inside Out, which I definitely put in my top 5 Pixar films, maybe even top 3. The reason it works so well for me is that the Emotions don't feel like real characters... They act more as an allegory for the turmoil Riley feels, enhancing a small but very real story of a girl who moves to a new city and considers running away before changing her mind. It ain't about Joy and Sadness, it's about Riley and her parents, with the visuals of what's going on inside their heads acting as a way to magnify what is ultimately a very simple conflict.
Biggest problem facing Pixar IMO: They have become too good at making gorgeous visuals, which negates a lot of the grit in their stories.
Will X The concept for inside out has been used a million times.
You mean a child that was forced to move away from all her friends to a bustling city, with parents taking on a new job? You don't think you might be just a little bit upset by this now or even more so as a child?
I don't believe you. Hyperbole incarnate.
Why I think inside out is a mediocre movie mainly goes with the characters and the adventure.
For the characters? there really is no character development. From the get go, with the concept of the movie, you're telling the audience that the emotions will act one way and one way only for the entire film. Joy will react with either happiness or being supportive. Sure, she gets sad from time to time, but it doesn't feel like it's a sadness that would impact the way her character works. Sadness will always react with sadness, anger will only react with anger and so on. something happens in the movie, and the only thing the emotions do is re affirm that that happened with their respective emotions.
And the adventure? Simply put: get from point a to point b.
It was really predictable, it didn't feel like an adventure at all.
Be careful of oversimplification of plot. You can do it to literally any movie. I agree with you on some points though.
Yes, they establish that each emotion will react within their emotion, but what I think they did well was show that there are times when anger is destructive and times when anger is warranted, and times when anger helps you achieve goals and stand up for yourself.
They do the same with happiness and show that being happy all the time puts you in denial. They also showed how being sad about loss can remind you of nostalgia or love of something after it has passed.
They purposefully set up the movie to make you think anger and sadness are going to be negative for the girl, but show you different sides to these emotions.
This may not seem that complex to you, but that just shows you already have maturity in this area. However as a film aimed at families, this concept of appropriate reaction to situations and effectively using emotions is a good one.
As for the execution, that is subjective and I have no problem with you thinking this was a weak movie. Personally I think the message and execution was pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. I would definitely show my kids if I had any.
Evil Paradigm
I never oversimplified anything. There ARE kids movies that are good. Inside out is a kids movie that is a good kids movie, for example. But Fantastic Mr Fox is a kids movie that is a good movie period. The difference is that for kids movies that are good movies it never feels like the writers see something in the script that doesn't make sense and say "eh, what ever, who cares? It's a kids movie anyway"
Inside out does feel that way. Every part of the movie was predictable from the get go. They need to get back to hq? Ah, and If the travel to this emotion island they'll get back to hq! Oh, guess what! The island conveniently collapsed right when they got to it! Wash, rinse, repeat. I'm not oversimplifying anything, that's how the movie is.
Monster's University is super underrated. I mean, in our day and age, it's a counter-cultural movie telling people you can't be something you're not, undermining years of Disney and other films that tell you to follow your heart or follow your dreams. If you can't adapt to the hard reality "some people aren't scary" many are confronted with upon entering the workforce, you will be beaten and broken until you do. It's needed truth we all need to hear and something I wish I had drilled into my head before I graduated college.
In the words of Mike Rowe, "Don't follow your dreams, but take them with you."
Underrated? I know i'm replying this 3 years later but it is not underrated, it's a billion dollar hit and a succesful sequel/prequel
Does your opinion change at all now that Coco is out?
Jesus Chavira coco made me fucking sob I think Pixar really created a masterpiece with it
Coco was honestly my favorite Pixar movie since Toy Story 3
Basically every critic that was hating on Coco came out liking it after they watched it
Ryan Paye OOP 👏
Coco was honestly just full of forced sadness. It kinda proves this guys point tbh. I also thought Coco was literally the most generic and cliche pixar movie I have ever seen :/ I still don't know why everyone loves it so much. The music and visuals are good and that's about it.
The president of Pixar Jim Morris revealed there are *No more sequels in development after 2019* Pixar made a contract with Disney in 1997 after Toy Story which obligated them to make as many sequels as Disney pleased *That's why we have 4 Toy story films*
And all those Toy Story films are good.
1:25 "Look... Stairs." xD
It's kinda sad how many times the narrator had to clarify that this is his opinion, not anything else. We've become so self-obsessed that we require an explanation for why someone else has a point of view.
IKR?! to me if u hate a film then just say so, u shouldnt be sorry for not liking a film that everyone else thinks is great. I myself dont really like any of the recent animation stories from movies n tv shows these days, they seem uninspired and the animation looks the same. Everything just seems recycled
nice nugget of wisdom right there.
Someone's should based their opinions should have a decent reason on why they feel the way they do. Your comment is stupid.
Aaliyah White sometimes opinions are formed by subconscious feelings an emotions, your comment is the stupid one assuming everything in life has to be well-argued like a college essay, grow up
@@thephilosopher5799 i LOVE your pfp!! Did u draw it yourself?
that whole inanimate objects point was entirely bs lololol. That can literally be applied to every movie. the toys aren't inanimate at all in toy story
Bugs, fish and bugs aren't inanimate objects.
"Pixar isn't about making adults cry and children entertained."
Yes, it is, it's basically Pixar's main (if not only) purpose 😅...!
Besides giving people ( like me ) OCD... *Sigh*
@@gordonfan2769 How did Pixar give you OCD? Asking genuinely 🤔.
@@RodrickMarsMoon Well, I should have said that Pixar amps up my OCD, Baby Einstein is what caused it.
All my life I've had a tendency to ' fall in love ' with fictional characters, and Woody from ' Toy Story ' is an ' Ex ' from the past that I don't want to get back with.
And especially because ' Lightyear ' just came out, the intrusive thought I have of Woody has been amped up.
All the thought of him ever did was disconnect me from my passions, it's how I wound up being disconnected from Chuck E. Cheese and getting into The Rock Afire Explosion in July 2019 ( Because of ' Toy Story 4 ' ).
And right now, because of ' Lightyear ', I'm being disconnected from literally everything, ' Thomas The Tank Engine ' is the ' final leg ' I'm standing on before I ' fall down '.
The thought of Woody gives me anxiety, because I'm scared of ' falling back in love' with him as well as the giraffe from ' Baby Einstein ' and Willy Wonka from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory ( 2005 ).
This anxiety stays, it never leaves. I go to bed with it, I wake up with it, and I live with it. It's unbearable...
I am taking meds, but they're barely working, I'm trying to tell myself the truth about my thoughts ( they're not real. ), but I can't take myself seriously.
It just seems ' hopeless ' right now, but I've said that I'm going to get out of this, and I will. I just have to get therapy.
Therapy is what I want and need.
@@gordonfan2769 Woow 😐! I... I never heard of this before, I don't even know what to say; I'm sorry for what you've been through, dude 😕. I hope you get better pretty soon.
@@RodrickMarsMoon Thank you... 😊 ❤️
I felt inside out so much because I related so much to Riley, but I didn't really find the emotion things that much relatable, but inside out and rileys life and my interpretations made me cry in the cinema.
Her life made me really feel like her because I have depression and felt her thoughts and I had just moved and I had no friends and I felt extremely lonely and I just wanted to runaway.
"There is nothing subtle about what Inside Out is trying to show us"
Shove it up my ass,
Karsten is trying to tell us he has never reached the mental state of children becoming more mature before.
Because puberty thought he was too fucking stupid to get hit by it.
*"aM kARl aNd I mATuRe eArLIeR tHAn YaLL. f UCc c hiLDhO 0d"*
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Chilidog 02 I actually hated inside out. There’s nothing wrong with you liking it but the story felt predictable and similar to previous Pixar films. Scenes like bing bong dying or Riley returning home to her family felt hollow. Of course the imaginary friend would die in a coming of age story and of course Riley was always going to return home. This is Pixar! what do you expect?!That’s kind of the point that he’s trying to make. It’s Pixar so what else do you think is going to happen.You liked it because you could relate to the character but to the people that cannot (or at least me) it was just a Pixar film.
someone being sad doesn't make a movie good. And with the emotion things it makes her act extremely bipolar and jump from emotion to emotion. i can't relate with that
Dominick Perez rude
To be fair, Pixar has made tons of amazing unique stories. You can’t expect for every movie by Pixar to be perfect
Man, I was so ready to hate on your video, because I’m a massive fan of Pixar. And while I do disagree with you opinion...I find it very hard to crap on you. You have a very solid opinion on Pixar that makes me think: “...yeah I can understand his point-of-view.” You’re not hating on something for bull crap reasons, they feel legit.
Keep it up, man!
A huge reason as to why you don't have personal connections to these new film is because you grew up, and they aren't a staple of your childhood.
This is formatted like a deep thinkpiece but sounds a lot more like party conversation. Interesting to hear your thoughts but (aside from the plague of over-franchising) is mostly just your gut response to the movies which varies so much person to person. Personally inside out hit me so deeply as a film and that's my gut response after the basic elements of film are considered. Glad you're sharing, but perhaps this type of dialogue would be best formatted as not a video-essay and perhaps a blog or series of tweets. Essays are usually more academic/evidence based IMO.
I have to respectfully disagree with the Whiplash and La La Land thing. Whiplash is still my favorite movie of all time, and I am absorbed into it every time I watch it. La La Land was fun, but I didn't feel nearly as immersed.
Gotta agree with you Phillip. La La Land is a good movie and has some really outstanding moments. Looks fantastic, very beautifully stylized. But, WOW, overrated. Whiplash is the real stuff. Gritty, super honest and tremendously engaging. And it addresses an incredibly difficult topic that most of us can barely fathom: The insane drive for greatness and how it isolates those so possessed from most everyone, especially the people they love. Difficult story to tell.
100% agree
I did not connect with anything in the Inside Out, I watched it and forgot about it, maybe cause of all the hype that was surrounding the movie, and I was excited to watch it, and then realised there is nothing in it I can hold on to? It is a good movie, it's not like I wasn't engaged or it didn't have anything important to offer. I just didn't feel it. Same with the Good Dinosaur, and I want to say I loved Finding Dory, but I think that in this case nostalgia was the main reason, because Finding Nemo was the movie I watched countless times when I was little.
Good Dinosaur might be Pixar's only movie that genuinely sucked.
Lily Hults So, you didn’t actually watch Inside Out. Everything you’ve said here proves that.
Ryan Paye Anybody that doesn’t feel *something* from Inside Out is delusional
I didn't like Inside Out at all it was bland and boring. Finding Dory was okay. I never saw the Good Dinosaur.
Pixar's show don't tell is not by chance-_-
I know you analyze their films but if you research about them you find out about how they made those great films.
I think you kind of disappointed me by saying that those things were by chance..
Studios do not make great movies over and over again by chance.
Sure they have pitfalls but I'm sure they'll get back up. I do feel as though there are not as many iconic stories I've seen from them recently but maybe...it works much better when you're a kid. Cuz I don't care for frozen or moana but kids seem to be crazy attached.
Jey Kim+ Being for children doesn't necessarily excuse Pixar from criticism. It's entertainment. It's open to criticism regardless of target audience.
+Jey Kim But he is not a child. He is also not a review channel for children.
My point exactly. Everyone LOVED Inside Out and raves about, for me though it's quite meh. Yes, I did get misty eyed once- you know when. But honestly for most of the movie I was just .... bored. I didn't care about any of the 'characters' at all and the 'plot' was almost non existent and very predictable.
Yes the concept is interesting but the movie itself wan't very exiting at all.
My point exactly about Pixar is that they are creating unique, rich and beautiful worlds that explore so many different types of themes. Inside Out had a plot that was existent, characters who were interesting and an amazing story with sad moments. Some people only bash it just because of hype, which is something everyone should just shut up about.
Captain Marvel Wilson YES! SO TRUE! Just because a lot of people like something doesn’t make it “overrated”. I hate it when people try to expose a popular thing as “overrated” just for attention.
Finally someone else who doesn't praise Inside Out.
Yes!
I think inside out is good, but not great. It's #12~ in my ranks
I think anyone can agree it's better than say cars 2 and the good dinosaur
Couldn't dissagree with you more about "Inside Out", I liked it much better than "Up". I felt much more connected to the story than I did with "Up", which I can't even remember how it ended. I thought "Inside Out" was alot of fun and very funny as well. "Up" had the vast majority of its humor comming from one comic relief character.
Who is that character?
Anger, Fear, Bing Bong, ... There are SO many comic relief characters in that piece of shit
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 you're trash
@@rendyredd7715 because I state a fact?
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 nah, you can't take the reality that's why you keep hating on it
If you think that Inside Out is only about the emotions, YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING THAT FILM WRONG THE WHOLE TIME. That film was smart and if you "didn't catch on to details" in that film, I highly suggest you read up more on psychology and the human brain.
Coming from somebody who loved The Good Dinosaur and didn't feel emotions while watching Inside Out. He makes points that are for sure strongly opinionated. That's good for him, but how can you say that every movie after Up has tried to make the audience cry. Sure there are occasional emotional scenes, but find one person who cried while watching Cars 2. Also, many of the original Pixar movies tried to make us cry. Remember Jessie's backstory in Toy Story 2, or the scene in Monsters Inc. where Sully has to leave Boo. I do agree that the original Pixar films were better, but to say that the new ones are just trying to make people cry is down right ridiculous. His points are his opinion and I can respect that, but the two of us just can't see eye to eye.
I think everything has to do with nostalgia. Mostly everyone who says that Pixar isnt making great movies anymore grew up watching them. Now we aren't able to "latch" onto characters bc we're no longer the target audience
Inside out helped me with growing up.. that’s its secret meaning, leaving ur childhood behind.. u can’t escape growing up.. and that really spoke to me when I was turning 15 since I then realised maybe being an adults better
Doopy Doody In my opinion, Inside Out does a somewhat admirable job at trying to explain to children (and I guess, easily impressed adult children) how emotions work... sort of. It tries to explain that our emotions control our mental faculties, that we think BECAUSE of our emotions.
This line of thinking is far too naive.
What old Pixar was really good at doing, is telling a story that had both a simplicity that made children understand and a maturity which reflects the reality of the world. It was exceedingly clever and charming and it taught children on how the real world works. Inside Out however, is too fictitious to be taken seriously, and not fictitious enough to be taken lightly.
First off, to think that our thoughts and minds and behaviors are controlled by emotions is just patently wrong. Feelings are not reality. Humans are not a manifestation of feelings, the environment is not built upon emotions. Emotions are a symptom of how our minds process our environment.
We are happy when something good happens to us, we get angry when we are transgressed, we are sad when we lost something of value to us, we are disgusted by things that would harm us, we are afraid of things that we don't understand. Emotions are reactions, not actions.
So right off the bat, the premise of the film is already off. Things are not made any better with the plot. The film centers around Joy, (an emotion of 12 year old girl Riley) having forced to confront a life-altering change and going through a coming of age journey, learning things about Riley, about Joy itself and of other emotions Anger, Disgust, Fear and specifically Sadness
This journey is something that Riley should go through herself, by learning to deal with overwhelming emotions, rather than represented by proxy through Joy. Instead, the movie shows Riley simply "feel" things that are happening to her, rather than understand what's going on and take responsibility and accountability for her own wellbeing - which is the essence of growing up. By the end of the show, Riley herself didn't learn anything, she didn't have any growth.
Dave Kendall In my experience of this movie.
Childhood is just running around with no responsibilities in a seemingly perfect world. That’s what it was to me at least.
So Riley’s reflection of this, her old home. And Joy running that weird emotion thing. Joy is restricting sadness and responsibility from you when you are a child.
So when Riley grows older, she is forced to cope with this new world, her new home, new problems and responsibilities all represent problems which arise when you get older. Again, REPRESENTS those problems.
For instance when I was young I was obsessed with trampolining, I still am. Just as in Riley’s old home she was obsessed with ice hockey.
Then she moved to her new place, or in other words grew up. And realised just like me that if you want to pursue something like that you can’t just stay at home on your ice field, you have to enter teams n shiz.
The emotions trying to get back to headquarters, are symbolically displaying the phase of feeling confused and alone in the issue of growing up.
Sadness feeling the urge to touch old memories and turn them into sad memories, symbolises that those old memories arnt exactly happy any more. As you can’t go back to them.
For a long time I struggled with that ideology, you can’t be a child again, that phase of life is over.
But then just like Riley, I found closure. I realised that although it is sad that I can’t experience childhood again. I can still remember those happy thoughts, in a somewhat happy way. Just like sadness handing the memory ball things over to joy, when they mixed happy and sadness.
Then my favourite one, when Riley gets on the bus. When she tries to go back to her old home, or tries to go back to being a child. She runs away from her forced reality, her new home. To go to her now unreachable one, childhood. She then realised she can’t. And then goes back to her parents. And in my eyes, thanks them for giving her memories that she wants to go back to that heavily.
There’s a lot more symbolic shit to this but I canne be arsed to explain.
I don't agree with all of your critiques, BUT I am grateful that you did critique Pixar instead of blindly praising it.
No one "blindly praises" them. They rightfully praise them.
When people blindly praise something, it is when they look at a film and think it is brilliant without actually trying to analyse it.
Dreamworks did make one of the best animated trilogies (in my opinion), the How To Train Your Dragon series
A critic that's really more of a personal opinion that tries to be insightful or in-depth like what a video essay usually offers.
The thoughts and critics presented are premature ideas and observation of basic filmmaking; not putting a lot of effort in communicating or arguing other your viewers.
Sometimes I feel like Pixar is just saying to me "this is the part where you cry"
This is an interesting opinion thats well explained but I have to disagree on one major point. I would agree with you on everything post UP (even Toys 3) but I have to defend Inside Out. I agree that the emotions in Inside Out maybe arent necessary to the story, but to judge it on the same merits of other Pixar movies are to dismiss what makes Pixar great, and thats their willingness (or used to be ) to experiment. I think Inside Out is an amazing accomplishment at taking the idea of undeveloped emotions and explaining them in a way a child can understand. Perhaps its too specific and happen to hit things that resonate with me (having moved to a new state when I was 8 and having a child that is 6 and is starting to ask about emotions). But I dont think that precludes people who dont have direct connections to these points. In my opinion, this shouldnt be viewed as an emotional piece but as an academic accomplishment. Barring major breakthroughs in psychology that disprove a lot of the studies that influenced Inside Out's take on emotions, this will be a hugely impactful piece of media that many will use for learning and understanding other and themselves better.
And I think that is how it should be judged, because if that it that bar to shoot for, most of the best Pixar films cant measure up. (Dont get me wrong, Im a huge Pixar fan).
Keep up the great work! Loved the video!
ua-cam.com/video/dXC_205E3Og/v-deo.html
Check that out. Inside Out is alright.
Jon Boyle I'm sorry, "the emotions in Inside Out weren't necessary"?! They were literally the driving force of the entire movie!
I can't really agree that Up was the last truly great movie they made... because from where I'm standing, Up is overall one of their weaker movies. I mean don't get me wrong, the opening is an absolute masterpiece... the 80 minutes following Ellie's death though? Not so much. The movie quite frankly just gets way too immersion-breakingly silly past that point, and the emotional weight of that opening scene really only comes back for one more scene in the entire movie, that being of course the part right before the climax where Carl looks through the album. I mean, don't get me wrong, I still liked Up quite a lot... but it's two absolutely spectacular scenes in a movie that's otherwise just "good".
...Also Inside Out is my favorite movie. Period. While it is extremely in-your-face about what it wants to convey, it manages to present such a perfect picture of dealing with emotional trauma, depression, major life changes and just growing up in general, that it truly felt like a mirror of my own life even if I'm basically NOTHING like the character of Riley. Also it manages to balance out its comedic moments and its dramatic scenes far better, plus the sheer fact that it mostly takes place in a representation of the human mind makes some of the more bizarre scenes far easier to accept than, say, Up's dogs in fighter planes. Sorry, I feel like I got a bit sidetracked there. To get back on point, I also just genuinely appreciate Inside Out's message about accepting your own feelings and that in order to truly be happy, you sometimes need to cry. It's just a point that really rings true to me, yet it's something you hardly ever see in ANY kind of media, let alone a kids' movie.
I'm not 100% sure, how I think that when Pixar was bought by Disney, they were required to follow a contract. For every original idea that was conceived, 2 sequels or something had to be done
I just hope Pixar doesn’t follow dreamworks. You know, filling it with toilet jokes and pop references. Of course they both can do *amazing* (how to train your dragon 1+2, the older Pixar movies) but I’m seriously scared for the path they’ll choose.
'Show dont tell' doesnt rule out dialogue, just expositional dialogue.
I came onto this video thinking I would disagree and argue wit everything you said, but after watching this I have to agree with you. Pixar is an amazing company and my dream job, but I think that they have started on not a decline, but a hollow of story creativity and originality. I still love everything they do but it just doesn't have the same optimistic flair that it used to...
0:40 its the complete opposite for me. Whiplash is a MASTERPIECE
Wait, I'm confused. Pixar is bad because they "show, don't tell" and have scenes that make you cry?
I'll give you the franchise crap, but the rest of your video doesn't make any sense to me.
No, he said the opposite of that. He's saying the later movies "tell, don't show". The message was very blatant in Inside Out, and Pixar relies on making people cry and manipulating emotions to make people think they're good movies. And they aren't bad, they just don't hold up to all the rest. And they do it cheaply, without any deeper emotional content. Like he said, watching Inside Out the second time around didn't make him feel very much. I can watch up 20 times and still cry, because Pixar, using the "show, don't tell" method and superior character building and storytelling actually created emotional investment and attachment.
@Emily I guess, Inside Out *did* have show and don't tell. Remember at the end, when Joy is letting sadness do her thing, and they just look at each other and smile? They didn't need to go into some huge exposition dump about why sadness was letting Riley feel emotions. That's a perfect example of show don't tell.
Erza Jumeidi Maybe that dragging out the feels is why I cried at older Pokemon movies. They didn't drag out Ash's death in the newest one and as much as I love Pikachu, I didn't cry when he was killed by Yveltal in the 17th movie.
Eric Closs This guy is quite unintelligent.
Emily I guess The problem is that not a single word of what you’ve said is remotely true. The later movies don’t “tell, don’t show” at all, there’s no “manipulating emotions to make people think they’re good movie.” That’s something you e completely made up.
“They just don’t hold up at all to the rest.” Translation: You didn’t actually watch them.
“And they do it cheaply.” Except, they DON’T do it cheaply in the slightest. More evidence you haven’t watched them.
“Without any deeper emotional content.” You choosing to ignore the deeper emotional content doesn’t make it to where there is none. It means you ignored it.
It's your opinion. This is obvious without you saying it. Are you trying to avoid criticism by calling it an opinion? Because that's not how that works.
Chameleonred5 I 💯% agree. People can’t just share an unpopular opinion and try to use the “but ith mai opinion” as a net to block them from getting hate. If you hate on anything that’s beloved, you’re going to get a lot of backlash. It doesn’t matter if it’s your opinion. DEAL WITH IT
He says it’s an opinion so that people won’t lose their temper if they disagree, but they can still show disagreement politely.
If you accuse him of blocking out hate, which he’s not even thinking of doing, it’s your problem. If you disagree with him, put your own opinion here rather than whining about his politeness.
"It's almost to me like Pixar went through a phase where they just tried to make us cry as much as possible after recieving so much success from Up." OH MY GOSH. THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one who noticed this! I love the emotion in Pixar, but that isn't everything that there is to their movies!
What are you talking about? Pixar movies like Finding Dory and Inside have sad moments, but what does that have to do with Up? The sad scenes fit in the context of the movie.
LOVE this vid. Just one thing: every single goddamn Toy Story movie is, and will forever be, iconic
Funny you say that about Whiplash because I felt the complete opposite. For me I'm extremely connected to Whiplash, mostly because I have gone through much of the same things as the main character also being a drummer myself, and its message by the end after I saw it the first time kind of changed me as a person. Interesting to note that you still realize it's extremely well made but that it's not like your favorite or anything. It's a good point although I also agree that after Up Pixar has gone kinda downhill as you explained.
fish and insects are animate objects
They clearly run on batteries.
Deus Ex ikr?
I got kinda irritated when I saw that part. I have pet bugs...
I know I'm weird.
as are rats. and superheroes are just like other human characters aside from their extra abilities.
IKR
Toy story 2 wasn't about the novelty of toys come to life. It actually dug deeper at themes of loss and meaning of life. Woody has come to the realization that time goes on, and Andy will outgrow him someday. So he can leave now on his own terms and avoid the heartbreak, or enjoy every moment left until Andy outgrows him.
Jesse already went through this, and felt abandoned and purposeless, whereas Buzz encourages Woody to live for the moment.
The themes in TS2 were WAY deeper than Woody's jealousy over the hot new Toy from TS1.
“Look, stairs” always cracks me up
The problem with Pixar is that every new movie seems more set up to be a franchise than the last, making everything seem less charming.
You are trying to search for patterns that influenced the way your perceive these movies in movies themselves, but not in yourself. From what you say about "not feeling it anymore", it's pretty clear that the problem is more your subjective emotional response (not even an opinion, just basic subconscious emotions), than it is the objective traits of the movies themselves. You're even struggling to find a coherent pattern in all the old Pixar movies being about inanimate objects (the house does play a role in Up, but it's not ABOUT the house, same for superhero suits in Incredibles).
On a side note, I don't think you're even supposed to get personally attached to the majority of movies you watch. This is a privilege reserved only for something that hits all your personal buttons, which obviously isnt going to happen that often.
you also gotta keep the nostalgia factor in mind. we are more inclined to appreciate and prefer things that coincided with a good time in our lives. this is often childhood. so even if the movies werent as good, you would still prefer them just because of their relationship to your memories.
Okay, I can understand why you have the ‘show don’t tell’ problem with movies like Monsters Univeristy and Cars 2, but Toy Story 3...? Toy Story 3 encapsulates the subliminal dynamic of Woody/Andy’s Toys being ‘parents’ towards Andy, it’s established in the first two movies but it’s the main point of the third.
He also called Coco uninteresting and bland, Coco is the opposite of what he said.
I will agree to this video: every Pixar film after Toy Story 3, tries to outdo itself with tear jerking sentimentality after Toy Story 3 and Up with exceptions of Inside Out and CoCo because the feels are trying maintain context with the story and build up to those moments, but when movies like Finding Dory and Good Dinosaur reuse the same tropes to not much effect story wise, it comes off as manipulative.
I personally think Pixar isn’t going down hill. Almost every company has there ups and downs even Amazon
I'm from the future and I have good news. They are making original movies after toy story 4
I disagree with UP being one of the better pixar films. The beginning is masterful, but that's it. The rest of the movie is just okay. Same thing with Wall-E. Only the first act is great. I think Inside Out is a better movie all around.
I understand some of your arguments although I disagree completely.
I think i agree partly with what you said about UP but i disagree about WALL-E. Sure, the first half/1/3 is better than the rest, but the rest of the movie is still incredible
You've articulated how I felt about the more recent Pixar films really well. Inside Out and Coco were great films, but they didn't have the same kind of fun that made the 2000s Pixar films so good. You described it perfectly when you mentioned how the recent Pixar films are trying to make a Pixar film, instead of actually being one. Wall-E, Ratatouille, Up were all made with the basis of making a unique story, not to make a story that'll get audiences to cry. It's almost masochistic in that way. I actually really don't like how Pixar is fetishizing sadness in this way. Those kinds of moments can be part of the story, but they can't be the reason why the story is being made. It's weird, now that I think about it. Anyway, really good points.
Yeah, Monsters Inc was all about the doors... um, what?
Monster's University is my favourite pixar film to date. The message about failure is one of the best I've seen in any movie.
You've tried here, you've really really tried here but you have not thought through your premise at all or actually gone to to the trouble of justifying that premise, you just assume you're right. "Pixar isn't as good now because their stories aren't rooted in inanimate objects and only care about making you cry". Are you for real? Re-watch Toy Story 3 or Inside Out and try and come up with a well-constructed argument that these films lack legitimate emotional depth. Both films make you feel far, far more things than just making you cry. You're right, Pixar is about making really really good animated films with heart and thought put into them. If you don't think Inside Out and Toy Story 3 are that, fair enough, that's your opinion. But trying to prove that these films are a different Pixar to the one that came before because of some vague correlation about the films no longer centring around inanimate objects (also, did you seriously try and claim fish, bugs, and rats as inanimate objects?) and assumed causation.
I am aware this is an 'opinion' video, you're allowed to have whatever opinion you want of course, but you're trying to claim the "Pixar films are different because they aren't rooted in 'inanimate objects'" as fact so you actually need to prove that thesis rather than assuming it to be true. Also, Pixar do "show don't tell" because literally every good storyteller does it.
what else do you feel
I agree with what you said about Inside Out. It was boring to me, and I although I've seen it a few times due to people around me putting it on, I've never felt the need to watch it more than once
Mad man. Whiplash is infinitely better than LaLaLand.
I think he was meaning to say Moonlight is better than Whiplash, he just got the wrong script.
Pixar trying to make Pixar. Ouch, but I agree mostly with what you said. The quality of the films has suffered for overexposition, the high stakes and expectations associated with the company, and their need for securing box office success (for which all of these unnecessary sequels are in production or were already released). Maybe they need to hire some new voices to make interesting content again and inspire with what they can do, and not with what they are supposed to do
I am actually in the minority that didn't love Inside Out. I liked and enjoyed it, but definitely didn't quite get the hype. I can't say for sure what it was lacking since it's been a while since I've seen the film. I remember not feeling very connected with the characters, among other things.
memicoot I hated that movie it is the worst Pixar movie ever made perid
I agree with the number of sequels they're pushing, but I can't agree that Inside Out was just a "make you cry" movie. I would have liked to see Anger and Fear utilised more, sure, but the emotion they conveyed wasn't really sadness. Pixar, with Toy Story 3 (which should have been the last one, since existence of the 4th ruins the entire point) and Inside Out, deliver the harder hitting points using nostalgia and the acknowledgement that you have to let go of things as you grow up. It's obvious in TS3, but in Inside Out it's a little more subtle - it's them moving, forgetting an imaginary friend, losing your interests that pretty much defined you when you were little. It's HOPEFUL about it though, and I think adults watching films like that just end up crying because we've been told that loss and moving on is bad n sad, and Pixar acknowledging the positives in such a process kinda hits you, you know? Inside Out does it with additionally acknowledging, explicitly, that sometimes our happiest moments come from times of sadness. It's all HOPE, not a ploy to make you cry. They're feel-good movies at their core. The exact same thing was in UP - leaving the house and furniture behind in memory of a lost life, but returning to continue living to pass on happiness to someone else?
Inside Out too... it's personal (so super subjective) but I spent MOST of the film nearly crying because it was essentially how falling into depression felt. Unlike Riley, I'm still There, but losing interests, losing hopefulness/joy + ability to connect emotionally and eventually just falling into apathy is pretty much a standard story of depression. As a film it touched me really really personally. I guess I got more of an emotional response than just "oh no not BingBong" from it in that regard. Which in itself didn't feel cheap! Because it's a real thing that happens to imaginary friends!
Also outside of that wall of text: Finding Dory was... not great. Compared to the other sequels Pixar has made it was VERY sloppy - too much jumping around, relied too much on call-backs from the first one but didn't have the same feel (Nemo took place in a vast ocean and the very different settings/events helped that feeling. Dory took place mostly in a contained aquarium and it FELT like they were struggling for ideas to pad it). It wasn't necessary to make, Nemo was satisfyingly complete without it.
What did you think about Coco?
Monsters U is actually my fav Pixar movie. As a college student, it spoke to me and I’ve never felt more proud and happy during the end of a Pixar movie than that one!
The visuals in inside out were so boring imo.
My theory abt pixar is similar -- the stories are always the same. It's always characters trying to get back somewhere: toy story, finding nemo, cars, and now inside out, theyre all stories of characters journeying home again. Which is a bit too repetitive for me, especially when the characters and animation aren't that exciting or new.
Rose Molyneux I agree.The visuals could have been so much better.It also seems that Pixar's film quality is dropping.
Ok, did both of you have mud spread over your eyes while you were watching?! The visuals were the furthest thing from boring!
hitu rana That isn't remotely true.
Ryan Paye The animation was really good,i'm talking about the visuals as a whole.Their older films have more oomph.The colors and compostion was a little meh for me.The story was very fresh though.
"they're all trying to get back home"
I never saw it that way. Oh my god it's so true XD (still a huge pixar fan)
It’s strange, I agree with all of your points about Pixar...yet the Damien Chazelle comparison I feel the exact opposite about.
You forgot the most important part: the music of the old movies vs the new ones
Braden Pope old ones
I agree specially with the "making people cry" just for the sake of it. I found Coco sentimentally manipulative and with zero subtetly. I liked the story and the way they shown how small mexican towns celebrate day of the dead but the movie is full of pixar cliches and sappy moments.
I know this was 3 years ago but I’d say he has been proved wrong by Soul
I thought soul was alright
and coco
You bring up some good points. I'm a little confused, though: What exactly is your through-line or thesis statement in this video essay?
But bugs are not inaminate objects tho
I may be very late to this conversation but I have to say inside out is one of the most beautiful Pixar films ever, a film almost anyone can understand it teaches such a beautiful lesson as cheesy as it may sound it really teaches us that its okay to be sad being sad is as necessary as being happy all emotions are necessary and without all our emotions together we wouldn't be whole. We see how depressed Riley gets when sadness and Joy are gone, you may be wondering how that works how can she be depressed if sadness is not there? Pixar teaches us that being depressed is not the same as being sad but depression is to feel no emotion at all to feel just vague, to feel as if we are nothing. This movie brings us all together as each one of us have to deal with these emotions and we all deal with things inside and out!!! (And also has one the best scores ever).
I don't care Inside Out has bright colors, in fact that makes my point even stronger: The Incredibles is a movie aimed at adults but is also enjoyable for kids which makes the movie more interresting, mature, heartbreaking and clever. Can you tell me with a straight face that Inside Out doesn't follow the stereotype that animation is just for kids?
you know there is something called nostalgia
those old movies have nostalgia which the news ones don't
although i am not against sequels but i do think toy story 4 is stretching it
I pretty much agree on "Inside Out". It's a great film but not my favorite. Toy Story 3 *does* connect with me on account of my strong anti-dictatorship mindset, but it isn't the scene with Andy that makes me cry; the scene that makes me cry is the incinerator scene; now the phrase "THE CLAW!!!" is an instant trigger for cry-laughing. But yeah; solid points in this video. But don't trash the Incredibles; that movie was overdue for a sequel the day it was released.
We need more W a l l - e mentions :3
I agree for the most part. The newer Pixar films just feel a tad fake to me.
But I love some of the Dreamworks films even more than most Pixar or Disney ones, because they’re not JUST goofy. There’s more to them than that. And aside from most of their lame sequels I’d say their films feel more unique to me than Disney and Pixar because it usually doesn’t feel like they’re TRYING to make a Dreamworks film, probably because Dreamworks doesn’t exactly have a defining trait
As someone who discovered Pixar as an adult and watched the films in the order they were released, I actually have to 100% agree with the video. Because after watching Up and Toy Story 3, I was on a high thinking Pixar could do no wrong, only to find out that the later films became incredibly manipulative (emotionally), and I rolled my eyes a lot watching Inside Out.
Another opinion to add to the crowd I guess, but I honestly don't think that aging or changing tastes was the only reason why I came to really dislike the latter Pixar films.
Oh, and I agree about Coco! I'm excited that it's one of the more original films Pixar has slated for the future, but I'm also dreading that it's going to be another cliche story that tries too hard to make emotionally invested in the protagonist's journey. Hope it's not. Hope Pixar goes back to its roots and does the unexpected, rather than throwing another cliche at us.
Erised Moon So, you agree with a lie. Because this video is FULL of lies. The later movies are not even remotely “emotionally manipulative.” Not even close.
Erised Moon “But I’m also dreading that it’s going to be another cliche story that tries too hard to make emotionally invested in the protagonist’s journey.”
There has to be a first one of those for there to be another, dumb-ass.
Ryan Paye Mmm, the savagery(I know that’s cringey, but I don’t care) is just getting better 👏👏
It seems like Pixar's newer films simply don't offer what you're looking for anymore. Yeah, after Cars 2, the did fall into somewhat of a rut, and their concepts might not be bleeding edge anymore (mostly talking about Inside Out), but they're still great movies.
I personally blame Disney for the unnessacary sequels we're getting.
But Coco
I think the real reason why you don't like the post "UP" films is because Pixar changed its formula. Before the post-Up era, the Pixar formula was as follows;
1.) Set-up a unique world through the eyes/experiences of a relateable yet distinct character
2.) Have something incredibly bad/wild happen (by their own hands or by fate) that turns their world upside down
3.) Have them go on an adventure to "make things the way they were again" only for them to realise how wrong they were and change for the better
After UP this formula completely changed;
1.) Set-up a familiar world through the eyes/experiences of a completely relateable character
2.) Have their entire world against them for being "different"
3.) Have them fight to stay "different" and have their world conform to them
Instead of having movies set around interesting characters who have flaws but evolve as they work on their flaws and learn from their mistakes, we now have movies set around completely familiar characters who are filled with flaws but force everyone to accept their flaws. Pixar's movies are pandering so much to PC culture to the point where their movies are no longer interesting nor moral.
That is the true reason why you don't like the post-UP Pixar films.
I think you're almost spot on with the formula pre-UP, but your post-UP formula doesn't really stick.
Good Dinosaur is the weakest of the latest batch of Pixar films, but is still a journey of self discovery like you described as being a pre-UP theme. Arlo is shy and unassertive until his Dad's death (the event that turns his world upside down) and the subsequent journey that forces him to be more mature, and to finally learn what his Father was trying to teach him. He arrives back to his family a changed man/dinosaur.
Inside Out, as much as it amazing, is more of a 'meet in the middle' situation, where Riley doesn't exactly change, but more that she realises it's OK to be upset, whereas her parents realise how neglectful they've been since their house move. So it has a little from each of your formulas.
Cars 3 fits your pre-Up formula spot on, where Lightning sees he needs to become the mentor he once had and has since lost - again, a journey of self discovery.
Finding Dory is odd because Dory doesn't really do much in the film, she has things happen to her - she's an incredibly passive protagonist, so it's hard to say whether she changes all that much. She's still forgetful and clumsy, but she has her family now so be happy and junk.
I agree there's a change in tone, although I couldn't quite put into words what it is. Perhaps it's Pixar seeing that they can touch on relevant problems that wouldn't have made worked as well when they were still making their earlier films, and establishing themselves as the dominant force they are today. That's my 2 cents anyway.
wasnt inside out exactly the old pixar formula? things are great, suddenly things change, and the main character tries to make them ''normal'' again, but ultimately realizes accepting the change is better.
4Tifier Thank you for proving that you haven’t watched any recent Pixar movies, because not a single one of them have that second formula you described. No one fights against any character for being different, no one confirms for them, you have made all of these things up.
Of all the Pixar movies released in the 2010s, only Toy Story 3, Inside Out, and Coco are the only movies that blew me away because they are movies with a substantive story with huge takeaways, not because they make me cry, although they did.
TLDR: Pixar has become old, moody and sentimental after 20+ years of making movies, much like the creative heads I imagine.
I would probably agree with your assessment except that I'd put it after Inside Out, which is the last Pixar film that felt radically original in both setting /and/ story. It's interesting to think of it actually in comparison to Coco, which I very much enjoyed as well. Coco had an original setting (well, original to Hollywood blockbusters), but i thought the actual mechanics of the story and the themes of the story were fairly tried & true cinema stuff. The characters roles and personalities, as well, felt familiar. Which isn't a bad thing at all, and in fact may have been something of a deliberate choice to fix familiar archetypes with the particular setting of Mexico and Mexican culture framing it. But I would contrast that with Inside Out and the movies before it that do, in my opinion, have original settings and original story ideas. Obviously the setting is unique in Inside Out; even other films that have traveled through a character's mind haven't really come up with a world as cohesive and specific as that one. I don't really think that needs explanation. The character models as well were original, in the vein of toys or nightmare monsters. But what Inside Out has that later films doesn't (but Up does), is a unique idea: how to portray depression as the separation from one's emotions, why sadness (almost always treated as a negative thing in children's media) is natural and part of being a whole person, and how those factors intersect when a child is navigating complex social relationships with adults, who project enormous expectations onto children. Riley becomes disconnected from expressing her emotions because she doesn't want to disappoint her parents, and that schism inside plays out anthropomorphically on screen.
I've never *seen* a film build its central drama around this very specific childhood experience, and then go to such monumental effort to convey emotional complexity through characters and images that children can understand, and carry with them on leaving the film. It challenges genre expectation: Joy *doesn't* save the day, and Riley becomes healthy by accepting sadness rather than embracing the bright side of things. Inside Out is a far weirder, bolder, and more radical story than even earlier pixar films like Finding Nemo and The Incredibles, both of which I found to be reasonably entertaining but not top-shelf like Toy Story or Up. ((I know that you'd disagree on the Incredibles, but under the gloss I found it cold, and having weird political undertones, so mostly it leaves me at "Hmmmmm that was fine. Nice action animation.")) I enjoyed watching your video btw, but i was a little let down when you got to the desription of Inside Out. While I thought your framing of the sequel problem was dead on, you didn't really present clear analysis on Inside Out in terms of what exactly about it was lacking the Pixar magic, except that you didn't seem to engage with it on any deeper level. I would say that's likely a reflection of you as a viewer, and what you engage in, and not actually a flaw or lack within the film itself.
btw, The "object" you were searching for that binds the characters together? It was the memory balls! Those are the doors of the film, they also link the internal and external worlds of Riley together, as well as controlling the plot movement of the characters and being the physical objects that affect or represent the most dramatic moments that characters are experiencing.
Ok I’m just gonna say it... la la land was a good story but a mediocre musical.
Weird comparison between Whiplash and La La Land. Whiplash resonated more with me personally, I think that part of the video is extremely opinion-based as well
May be it is because we grew up?
julius waag Poulsen You didn't.
no the best part of pixar movies are that anyone can enjoy them whatever their age
I'm just glad to see someone who actually liked The Good Dinosaur. (Haven't seen the movie, though. I just see that a lot of people make fun of it)
The Good Dinosaur is a great movie
ugh toy story 3 was the best of the series
Check this review out: ua-cam.com/video/dXC_205E3Og/v-deo.html
Might change your thoughts on Toy Story 3.
It was just an uninspired and unnecessary retread of Toy Story 2. Easily the worst in the series and one of the worst Pixar movies.
mycollegeshirt - I think it’s toy story two, cause three is a rehash of two.
@Mattchester, an uninspired retread? How?
Warjay I rewatched Toy Story 1-3 and I personally don't like any of them. I will say that 3 is the best one if I must pick because the little girl has a Totoro plush and Totoro is god.
This was certainly true when you made this. But not now, Pixar make great movies again.
"Before you dislike, this is just my opinion"
Disliking a video is a perfectly reasonable and logical response to low-quality (poorly thought out) content.
Not all "opinions" are created equal.
And that's why the video got a like and your comment gets a dislike from me :^)
ottodude555 I agree. This guy really needs to grow up and deal with hate.
NoFeckingNamesLeft Wait, but... I can’t see the dislike 🤔
Very interesting "the object that brings everything together" thing. I never thought about it, but now that I do, it really has sense! As it lacks in the sequels, it feels like an emptiness.
I completely agree with this essay ... the only thing is that I don't think it's Pixar's fault. The last movie Pixar made before Disney officially took over was up, it was Disney who decided to make the sequels and Disney who thought they could do better than what Pixar already had going. The only reason Pixar was so easily invaded by the corruption of Disney is because of John Lasseters undying dedication to anything Disney weather its awesome or completely stupid
Hannah Fyre Actually, that's not true. Not in any way. Pixar (and Disney Animation) only make movies they think deserve to be made. None are made by committee.
Ryan Paye I’m gonna be honest that is just my educated guess and not a fact but I’m curious to understand what (other than Disney) could have suddenly changed Lassesters direction with Pixar to include crappy sequels (cars 2) to sell toys to five year olds. Pixar was on an insane streak of critically acclaimed children’s movies, no bad (or unoriginal or poorly made) movies up to date until disney came along ... don’t you think that is a strange coincidence then that literally the second disney comes into play Pixar doesn’t just gradually spiral down into trashy movies but completely faceplants?
Ryan Paye ok yes I’m aware of that but I’m talking about the root of it all ... Lassiter decided that cars 2 deserved to be made and we can now all see that that was a mistake and yet they still continue to crank out crappy sequels or trash knock offs like the good dinosaur ... you can’t deny that there was some kind of obvious change in what Pixar had going for them so I drew the conclusion based on the psychology of it all ...1. Lassiter is loyal to Disney 2. Disney is infamous for sequels and remakes 3. Right after disney got ahold of Pixar things started going downhill and 4. Yes maybe Pixar only makes movies that /they/ think deserve being made but really don’t you think it’s possible and even likely that Disney had something to do with at least brainwashing the mind of Lassiter a little? Pushing him in a direction or something? I just don’t see any other explanation. I’d love to hear another explanation if there is one tho
pixar had lost its magic post-up. Aside from coco, theres not many newer pixar films that had memorable moments like the older pixar films.
Exactly, I miss old Pixar
@@paperchasindude6578 They didn’t go anywhere, dumbass.