The Guitar That SAVED Gibson | 1990 Gibson Les Paul Classic
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Today, we are talking about the Guitar model that SAVED Gibson in the 90s. The original "Les Paul Classic."
Gibson changed ownership in 1986 and it took them a few years to finally strike upon "the next big thing." A lot of this had to do with music tastes and stylings starting to change as well as a certain hat-wearing dude, but the Les Paul Classic is the first new model under Henry J ownership that TOOK OFF! These original late 1989-1993 Classics are vastly different guitars as compared to today's classics and originally ranked ABOVE a Les Paul Standard - let's learn more!
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0:00 Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:12 Desperate Times, Desperate Measures
0:41 The Guitar That Saved Gibson
1:06 The First Classics
1:24 Compared to Other Models
2:30 Features of the Model
3:08 A Cheaper Reissue
3:55 Changes Over Time
4:27 Pickups & Finishes
4:56 Case
6:09 Inside Look / Specs
19:04 Clean Tones
21:12 Dirty Tones
23:08 Final Thoughts
24:14 What to Watch Next!
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If I had a dollar for every time Trogly said " it's just the wood lottery ". I never have heard anybody else be so lucky with " good wood " guitars.
My se custom 24 has a flamed maple center piece of the 3 piece neck and some dancing in it mahogany back as well. my g&l tribute asat classic semi-hollow got a fully flamed neck and fretboard.
@Suddsy He buys SO many guitars of course he's going to be winning the wood lottery!
I met a guy who said his grandfather left him a 1960 Gibson Les Paul. He said he knew it was a 1960 because that’s what was on the pick guard. 😂 I didn’t know much but I knew Gibson didn’t put those pickguards on classic 1960 Les Pauls. I didn’t have the heart to tell him it was only a few years old.
Lmao
""Best I can do is 20 bucks." 🗿
If you consider a “few” years 30
@@snowrs1 I met this guy in 1995. 😂 It’s an old story.
There were pre Historic 1960 les paul Ressisues that were produced before the early les Paul classics and during the production of the early les paul classics.
The idea that the ealry les paul classics were basically a pre historic 1960 isn't really true since there was an actual pre Historic 1960 reissues.
So the price of the ealry classics being inflated due to them being labeled pre historic 1960 reissues is basically nonsense
Kris Derrig's "fake" Les Paul, the one that Slash used for Appetite, should be in that category as well.
Absolutely.
Bought my first Les Paul, a used Classic from a local dealer for a very reasonable price in ‘04. Knew nothing about Les Pauls but sales guy told me thought it was an ‘02 based on the serial. Then I learned a couple years later it was actually ‘92 which the forums seemed to respect. Really a great player, one piece plain top with natural aging and I’ll never let her go. Ceramics are hot yes, but if you don’t dime them out every time they do fine.
Welcome to the Classic World!
Those old classics are absolutely killer. I have owned a couple.
"Dime them out" is maxing the volume on the guitar?
Yes.
The cork has been sniffed.
"The material actually feels vastly different than the ones that came later. Gibson changed to a different breed of muppet for the fur case lining."
LOLOL
Hilarious 👍
Is that what they call the case lining material, 'muppet'?
The original Classics were great in every respect bar one. The hot ceramic pickups. I swapped 'em out for some PAF clones and the guitar was transformed.
Looking to do this to my '92 classic burst. What PUs did you add?
@@brianm9517Arcane makes a good one (Triple clone) for a relatively reasonable price.
The Nashville bridge is not a "downgrade"!!!
I agree.
More room for correct intonation.
Easier to adjust intonation since screws are rear facing.
Less prone to post lean due to inserts.
Just doesn't satisfy the historical traditionalists.
Good point. I hate that ABR-1 bridge with the wire retainer. Sometimes to set the intonation correctly, you have to turn the saddles around. Not sure whos idea that was because the string tension will hold the saddles down. Wire retainer is useless.
I prefer the Nashville over the ABR-1 since I like to top wrap on my Les Pauls and that only works with the Nashville. When I top wrap on an ABR-1it doesn't sound right. I get a strange pinging sound from some strings so I don't top wrap on an ABR-1.
@@davesinger6526 I think too wrapping is kind of a weird practice since it reduces the break angle over the bridge, but the Nashville Bridge overall is a much better bridge objectively, especially compared to an ABR-1 mounted in the historically correct way, which is directly into the wood. The tension can cause the posts on the bridge to lean over time. Also, ABR-1 bridges typically collapse over time (decades) and have to be replaced, they have less room for intonation. There are a lot of reasons why Gibson upgraded away from the ABR-1. The Nashville style bridge is better in every way.
@VidMashUp I like to top wrap mainly because my right hand feels more comfortable while resting on the bridge due to the reduced break angle of the strings. Also, for my Nashville bridges top wrapping keeps the strings from contacting the back edge of the bridge. This isn't a problem with the thinner ABR-1. With both bridges I screw the tailpiece down flush with the guitar top.
Happy Holidays to the Trogly family!! I just wanted to say thanks for all the vids and hard work over the year!I think I have watched every one!! Have a good one dude
Nice to finally see some love for the early classics!! I've got a 91 plain top, but it has an incredible book matched knot right by the volume knob which makes it quite unique. Happy Holidays!!!
Look at the build specs on the 2019 epiphone exclusive deluxe limited run Sg Pro G 400... don't say anything about AAA flamed maple veneer because we then can talk about the veneer Gibson uses on their 335..339..and headstock and backs of the Les Paul....
Classic 60s Era "Solid Guitar"
The G-400 Deluxe PRO is inspired by the first generation of SGs made in the 1960s at the legendary Gibson and Epiphone factory in Kalamazoo, Michigan that produced the Les Paul and the Casino. The SG model was originally intended to replace the Les Paul, which temporarily went out of production from 1961-1968. The new G-400 Deluxe PRO is constructed using the same dimensions and build techniques as vintage SGs and features a AAA Flame Maple Veneer top with a Mahogany body and neck with a comfortable 1960's SlimTaper 'D' profile and a 24.75" scale length. The Pau Ferro fingerboard has single ply binding with pearloid Trapezoid inlays, 22 medium jumbo frets, a 12" radius, and an adjustable truss rod with a 'bell' cover.
Have a 92 classic with same finish. Can definitely see the thin binding in cutaway on mine. Binding has yellowed with thin cracks making it look really aged. Mine has a cream toggle switch not yellow and l dont have the pickguard. Killer guitar and cranks through a marshall.
Ive owned three 92 Classics. The best LPs I’ve ever owned.
Merry Christmas Guitar community 🤘
And a very merry Christmas to you friend!
Merry Christmas to you, axe brother!
Another good film Austin, but surely the saviour of the company is the SG it being the only model that’s been in continuous production since its inception.
Agreed.
I read a few years ago that the SG is still the best selling Gibson guitar.
@@john564hollowayI certainly wouldn’t doubt that.
I don’t even like SGs, but I have to agree with your comment.
Wish I still had my 1963 SG junior! I do have my 1990 Classic that I bought new in April 1990 in mint condition (not an overstatement) still strung with the factory strings.
Fantastic video, coverage and history of the 1960 Classic reissue. This was my first Les Paul purchase at Manny's Music in NYC in late August 1990. Beautiful early model with serial# of 622. Absolutely love the guitar. My son wants it of course, but he will have to wait until I die to be willed to him (if I don't take it with me in my coffin 😉). Thanks for being so thorough with details, I have tried to find more information and history about it, but you did it justice! Keeping it all OG of course. Enjoy yours!
I love early 90's classics, I have a lp classic plus from 1994 in the rare Cinnamon burst finish with all gold hardware and no pickguard and I absolutely love it
Wow! Dang, I wish we could post pics in these comments. I'd love to see that finish!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of and passion for guitars Austin. May you and your family have a great Christmas and New year.
I purchased two Classic premium plus’ when they were released, cherry sunburst and tobacco burst. They both had AAA tops, no pick guard and were not only stunning but great sounding and light guitars. I sold them both for about £1200 each ten years ago.
The early 90's were a great time for Gibson. The time period I am most nostalgic for. In 92 I traded my black 85 Explorer in on a wine red Studio, gold hardware and trapezoid inlays on a ebony board. Great memories of this time in guitars in general. (I was in HS in the early 90's)
I have a very modded ‘93 SG Special. Funny enough, according to a brochure I found, all the ‘93 SGs seemed to get rosewood boards, but the Special got EBONY.😂 Mine needs a re-fret though.
@joermnyc Right on, man.
I also have a ‘93 Studio in wine red with gold hardware. My dad bought it for $500 in the late ‘90s. I sold my first truck to buy it when he decided to sell it. One of the best guitars I’ve ever had.
Great trade!! I know exactly how your Studio looks. The wine red with gold hardware is insane!
I bought the same one back then for 425!!
and thus began the second price hike on the old Classics, great
I don’t remember these,, my local shop had studios ,standards and customs, but never saw the classic until the modern version much more recently.
I wish i could go back to the late 90s. I remember how much fun I had in the music stores. I used to drool over the les paul classics .
I did too. Should’ve bought one.
I’ve always loved the early classics. Other than the thin neck anyway. I’m a sucker for that headstock shape with the push in bushing klusons.
I've got two complaints about my 2019 Classic. One is that the 3rd fret inlay has risen up enough to catch the E or B string on a bend, and two, the bore holes in the tail-piece are not smooth. When it gets to the high E string, it's not an exaggeration to say that it takes 10 minutes and reading glasses to position a 9 gauge "just right" to pass it through without catching on burrs and bending. I'm a huge Gibson fan, and I have several. But I've got to say, I do understand when people talk about quality issues.
True! We sometimes forget these axes are made by imperfect humans that do the same thing over and over every day, with the same parts whether fretting, sanding, painting. I can see it getting really monotonous.
Stevie Via’s birthday is June 6 (1959).
I would love to see videos on the different pickups, bridges, tailpieces, pots and resistors offered by Gibson. To help I’d the different parts.
I have a December 14th 89 Les Paul that meets a lot of these specs, 2 piece plain top, 1 piece back, fluffy case blanket. But it's not a classic. And unfortunately got a factory Kahler.
Cool to see this model pop up. I picked up an ‘89 version a year or so ago. Number 011. Hard to get on with the slim neck but it’s a nice one for sure.
Great 'Classic' video, Austin! My 2018 LP Gold Top Classic has the 'Les Paul model' headstock logo and the Classic truss rod cover in white letters. I changed the Grover tuners to the Gibson Vintage Nickel Machine Heads seen in the video. It's a Guitar Center exclusive due to the added Bigsby 7 Vibramate with the nickel spoiler. It's a non-weight relief boat anchor, possibly 10.5 pounds, but the P90s are insane! I don't gig so the weight is not a big deal...Love these 'educational' vids!
I own a 2001 Classic that looks exactly like the one on the video. Replaced the pick-ups for some DiMarzios PAF 59 and the tone became more classical than with the original pups.
The original pick-ups sounded good anyway, specially the 496R.
Hey Trog, when did the 300K pots come in? I must say I am not a fan. I also prefer the 490s over the 496 and 500.
My SG Standard has the 490R/498T and they're awsum!
FYI - I have a Classic 1991 I bought new then, and the maple top is clearly visible with the thin binding. Nice example, mine is in similar condition, near mint.
When you showed pictures at the beginning ..... I really liked the "lemon burst" type of color!
Thanks for the video! I have a 2003 Classic (transparent wine red). Does anybody know of any resources or have information on the exact spec of these instruments?
I played one almost exactly like this one at a Guitar Center in 1995, I still remember it. I was in college so didn't have the money to get it, but it was amazing.
Happy Christmas Trogs!
That is a beautiful Classic. Merry Christmas Trogly!
I picked up a 2020 Les Paul classic in blueberry burst with a AAA top. It's an incredible guitar!
Ello I’ve got 2 older classics and just bought a 92’ in amazing shape and it’s being shipped from cold ass Tennessee to nice hot humid south Florida…should I wait to open the case?…should I leave it on the porch a few days to acclimate it b4 bringing it inside to the 50% humidity 72 degrees house? I’m worried about checking…I like it but if it’s a flawless finish not so much
Thanks
I dropped Tom Holmes pickups in my ‘99 Honeyburst Classic Plus, also swapped out the bridge for a Faber and went with a lightweight tailpiece, brass thumb wheels, Kluson Revolution tuners, mojo-tone 500k CTS pots, Luxe PIO caps, and 50’s wiring.
Each update brought more out of the guitar so I felt it was worth seeing how far it could improve. It’s pretty impressive, and keeps me from lusting after newer models.
Thanks for the review.
What camera do use for filming?
Go back to the top and check out the vid description. He lists everything he uses.
To my knowledge the Classic was marketed as the best USA Gibson Les Paul up until 1997 at least, do you have any info as to when did the Standard reclaimed it's throne?
nice one, I have a late 89, same color, pickups changed but I have the originals!
I own a 2001 Classic. Great guitar.
Some of the early LP classics had these very yellowed fretboard inlays, they were even kinda over yellowed.
Thank you for posting this very insightful and informative video. My first Les Paul was a late 90s Classic in Honey Burst. Those ceramic pickups were awesome. Wish I still kept it. 🤘🎸🎸🤘
How do they decide whether to use a FULL or LIGHT weight tailpiece? Is it just a 'historic spec', or is there some benefit to one v.s. the other?
I have a 1990 Honey Burst LP Standard with the Bill Lawrence designed circuit board pickups. It’s a beautiful instrument!
Any chance you can review one of those?
Love those 500T pups. I really REALLY want to try out a Dirty Fingers. I play aggressive stuff and the ceramic humbuckers lend well to it, the hotter, the better… so it would just make sense… I’ve got one loaded in my The Hawk that I would offer to go a review on, but I’ve modded every part on it. Hey Austin, if you want to do a comparison of what The Hawk model WAS vs what it COULD have been, let me know…
Question @Trogly.. I have one of these from this early nineties era however it has the long tenon neck, flame top and says LPCP in the pickup pocket.. where does that put it in the timeline?
might be one of the Custom Shop produced Classics
I purchased a LP Classic Goldtop in '93. I wasn't aware that that was the first year for the goldies. Still have, still love it. Only thing is the 1960 print on the pickguard wore off due to sweaty hand. Looked everywhere but can't find a replacement 1960 pickguard.
I love these educational ones. Thanks for posting!
Back in 1999 I walked into a nice guitar shop and there was a cherry sunburst classic up on the wall 🥰 I asked them to get it down for me, and before I even played it, I decided, she will be mine. 😉🤣 Another one I kick myself in the ass for selling! 🤬😠 Dumb Bleeper!
i bought a Les Paul classic a year ago it cost the same as the standard...so it's nor as good as a standard? i have the J.P. wiring that came stock in this translucent red one
Thanks Trogly. Never really understood where the Classic fit in. Im still curious how the new ones compare to the early ones. As far as feel and sound. I know they are a lesser version but I see they are very popular among many. I personally am not interested in the new ones.I own 6 Pauls, a 2010 Traditional, a 2006 gold top deluxe, a 69 or so modified for hums deluxe, a 2014 120th Ann. heritage cherry (mod shop), a 2016 60's Tribute with P-90's (mod shop) and the Epiphone Bonamassa 58. Ive come to realize i prefer the 50s necks over the 60s slim tapers. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
i love the pickguard personally. i saw one a long time ago and i always assumed it was some expensive rare model without researching it
Austin Thank You for great show very Helpful about Gibson!!!!!! Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!
great video, but I can´t find the amp do you used ... thanks for add. information about this
Marshall Bluesbreaker reissue
The red super strat that Trogly is holding at the beginning is actually a BC Rich ST111. USA.
I remember the early 2000's LP Classics with the green-ish inlays. Some retailers where I live must have bought a stack of them or got a good deal from Gibson or due to the exchange rate, because they were discounted when new. Unfortunately it's left me with a bit of impression that there is something inferior about them that I can't rationalize. I'd still consider one if it turned up at the right price.
Steve Marriott (The Small Faces/Humble Pie) used a Dwight during Humble Pie's early days; it can be heard on the track "I Don't Need No Doctor".[10
Doesn't look like the neck has that maple stripe on top of the truss rod in the neck cavity, at least l couldn't see it.
I just got an amazing flamed top 92 Re-issue classic that I just reviewed on my channel just this week. I LOVE mine...and honestly, I think I'm gonna collect a few more examples from the same time period! Folks on my channel were letting me know that the inlays are celluloid.
My 1992 LP Standard is an amazing guitar.. easily on par with my CS Historics from another great era, 2005-2007 (genuine South Am. mahogany, no Fiji stuff..) The good wood years are no nonsense, you know it when you play them.
So I I bought another 3 Les Pauls from early 90s.. just because they are SO good.. they all are, no dud left the factory then...
@@tomasvanecek8626 yeah man, as soon as I played mine I could feel it resonating and the sound took my head off! It was "THE ONE"!!!
@@SamuraiFingers When my brother I played with for 30 yrs first strummed the open A chord on that 92 unplugged - he looked at me with disbelief - Wtf is THIS ?? Yeah, true story - and you understand ...
93 all gold classic is my all time dream guitar!
Had a 1990 reissue 1960 LP all Gold
That’s a nice clean example Mr Trogly. Thx for another informative video. Christmas Eve here so I wish you and your family and of course all of the Troglodytes a safe a d happy break.
Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I still have my 1991 Classic in full bullion gold. Hated it until I put SD Seth Lover pups in it.
Had a 1990 All Gold
All I remember from these guitars were the snot green inlays. Other than that they looked nice
Did they really rank above Standards when they came out? I remember them being a couple hundred $ cheaper than standards when they debuted, around $1,100 - $1,200 compared to $1,500 for a Standard. Always wanted a coppertop Classic but it was a hard finish to find. Happy holidays Trogly, thank you for all the years of fun and informative videos!
I have a '91, all gold Classic and it has the greenish colour inlays. I thought that by the 2000's era Classics had none greenish inlays.
Joe Pass uses an Emperor. Epiphone produces a signature model of Pass' guitar.
Les Paul used Epiphone guitars for recording from the early 1940s until the late 1950s, even after his signature Gibsons were produced. The Epiphones were highly customized models
This is a beautiful finish
another great portion of guitar knowledge! thanks a lot!
Hey trogley have a 91 in honey burst and an 04 in cherry burst unfortunately the pickups were changed out so had to put others in but awesome guitars they are
I love that 496r tone! Too bad they dont put the 498/490 set in the current ones.
Around three years of perfect production before they changed everything.
History Stutters.
Thanks for all your work Trogly.
Love my 96 Goldtop Classic
I wish Gibson still made Les Paul Classic. I miss those late 90s early 2000s years of Gibson. Affordable.
So similar to mine. Its a 2008 classic. Im so lucky to have one of those.
Great content as usual. Just wondering if anyone knows the first year blue was a colour option on a les paul, i know people can be very opionated on non-trad colour options but always love a blue guitar
~1973 with the Basalt Blue Sparkle Deluxe. Some Sonex in 80s had twilight blue so I suppose you could find a The Paul in the color. I’ve seen at least one blue custom in that era. 1990 saw the blue standards in the limited colours edition. Your answer varies depending on what you call a “Les Paul” but the 90s is when it starts to become more offered
@@Trog Didn't know they made Sonexes in twighlight blue, that's cool! Another rare one for my wants list.
I've got a les paul classic 1960 that I bought in 1990. It's dated 1989, 57th one made.
I did not like how those pickups sounded with dirt.
My very first Les Paul was a 90’s Classic in Honey Burst. I loved that guitar. Still sorry I sold it. 😢
i bought an exceptionally 91’ classic in honeyburst locally for $2.5k! i knew it was special but really didn’t appreciate it until doing research and behold what i find recommended to me, this video! only think is the D string tuning key was replaced at some point but remains the bushing style. its staying in the family for sure, hope to give it to my daughter one day so she can enjoy it as well.
i have a 90 classic from the yamano they are so good
Bought a Les Paul standard for eight hundred dollars in 1989. Still have it.
Very cool very very nice guitar something I would definitely like to have in my arsenal
congratulations on your videos are a real wonder A 10 to your work.... It only remains to ask if this model has the famous weight relief holes... THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR WISE REPLY.. If anyone knows, I'd be happy if you could let me know
My 1989 Les Paul Standard in Ebony has no weight relief!! it weighs 10.4 pounds!! great guitar. still plays and sounds great. as for it having a 3 piece top, i cant tell, its black! i payed 950.00 for this ebony standard in 1989 brand new with the brown case with baby blanket. doesnt that price just make you sick these days? i do love that cherry burst classic you have and i love the top and no its not plain. has alot of character in the wood grain. thanks for sharing nice video
Gibson is always known to muck up something in the reissues such that with visual inspection it can be seen as a reissue. The LP Classics are no exception. Look carefully at the outside curve of the cutaway and you will see it purposely cut not-quite-right, has a bit of a "blocky" look. you can even see it in the video of the one Mr. Torgly plays.
So interesting! I would say the uncovered pickups might have something to do with the same guy in the top hat and his overall resurrection of the Les Paul. So this was kinda like his first unofficial signature run lol
Slash first got an "unofficial" signature of 4 red guitars in 1990 - so very possible!
@@Trog yes! Totally forgot that cuz he just kept em for himself... Maybe his order was the a-ha moment that kick started the Classic line
I owned an early 90’s Goldtop Classic back in late 90’s. It was an OK guitar but I couldn’t bond with the paper thin neck , 10lb body and buzzsaw sounding pickups.
I don’t miss it.
my 2017 Classic is gorgeous Seafoam Green two piece top
Those are beauts!
In 2000 AMS we're selling these for 1,200! I purchased 3 of them and thought I'd won the lottery selling them on Ebay to the European market for $1,500 for two of them and $2,400 for the other. Wished i woulda kept one...
I'm not a fan of flame and quilted tops. I LOVE these plain tops.
I had one identical to this sn: O O453, just 30 guitars later, and it was terrible. Somehow it didn’t ring and even tapping the body it sounded dead. I took it for a pro setup and was told that it was just a bad one. They advised me to move it on, which I did. I have an R8 now.
Ever reviewed the 2000 Gibson Les Paul SG historic custom shop with tremolo?
I bought one of those in 1995 on an impulse, and came to regret it. Honestly it felt like a cheap copy. The most bizarre thing was that the fingerboard had strange ridges on it, as though it had been misplaned or something. It was the guitar that persuaded me to have my dream Les Paul made by a luthier, so I did. Sid Poole.
Many care too much about supposed visual "mistakes" and dont know these ridges as you call it have no impact on anything..
least of all, the sound. No so-called luthier can build you a Les Paul that feels and sounds like a genuine Gibson. Same with copies of Martin acoustics.. money wasted. Hope you didnt pay too much for that thing ;) .. but yeah, what ever makes you happy...
A conversa passou rápida! Muito bom papo!
My # 1 I love it. mine is 10lbs 2ozs heavey but I love it.