What's the Deal with Old Les Paul Customs? | 1978 Gibson Les Paul Custom Natural
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The "Norlin" Era of Gibson is quite an interesting one due to all the spec changes that occurred. Some guys like them, some guys hate 'em, but there truly is something for everyone, but it can be kind of hard to pinpoint which one might be best for you! I hope this guide helps you. I personally really like the 1976-1982 era.
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0:13 - Recap
0:40 - Les Paul Customs 1968-1970
1:24 - Les Paul Customs 1970-1972
2:00 - Les Paul Customs 1973-1975
2:40 - Les Paul Customs 1975-1981
4:18 - Les Paul Customs 1982-1986
5:00 - Pre-1975 vs Post-1975
5:44 - Inside Look / Specs
17:38 - Clean Tones
19:31 - Dirty Tones
20:51 - Final Thoughts
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The Norlin Era can be a lot of fun if you're open to new ideas on what a Les Paul "Should Be." They certainly weren't traditional, but they're fun!
This is by no means a complete guide, but should be good enough to help you ID which one you might like to try!
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Thanks Trogs!! My 00 76’ Les Paul Deluxe is a Tobacco Burst with the factory installed normal humbuckers that guitar took a ton of ribbing on the forums(pancake body, larger headstock, wide binding) you know.. but when it’s being played it flat puts a lot of the other Lester’s to shame..it is very special “to me”!! Thanks for this very schooling video!!
I love to see a finish like this in a natural or stained not painted. It's just a shame to cover that wood grain. I like a thick neck on a guitar. Thin necks are okay but a thick you feel like you have all kinds of real estate to play on. I like to call thick neck guitars Gunter. I don't know why. My Studio has very Similar wiring to the one your reviewing including the shielding and ashtray cover. I know I don't always say it directly. But everyday you do a review is a great one. When I see you do a run down of a guitar especially as nice as the one you have here I really enjoy the information. Besides I'm not saying I've become an expert watching but I've gained knowledge I didn't have before and sometimes do a little investigating myself on different models and brands.
@@clarkbabin9799 I'm a fan of baseball bat necks, myself. I have big hands, but a lot of little shrimps like Paul Kossoff and Slash like(d) them, too. The PRS wide fat is divine for my tastes. When I first tried one, it was heavenly. As for stained colors/finishes on the flamed Customs, they're on the Mod Collection site usually, if you wanna take out a loan to snag one! 😃
@@cataclysmicconverter I try and play on different guitars with different types of necks as often as possible. Being that I have more than a dozen or so guitars of different styles and types I think I've got that covered. Some guitars just sound better with certain music. But when I get a new guitar I play the hell out of it for the first couple or so months then I pick up one at random just for the fun of the difference.
You want to sell it, tell people they "can't have it." Works like a charm.
What a shock to hear Jeff Beck passed today! A giant of a musician! God Bless him and his family!🙏
One of the absolute greatest of all time. Nobody else will ever duplicate his style.
Rip too a great player
Cant believe it. R.I.P. Hero😔
One of my favourite solos is his on Blaze of Glory.
Give jeff beck a shout,he passed earlier today,..Legend
What a tremendous loss. RIP.
Terribly sad news
Really??? Wow.
RIP Jeff Beck...you & your music will be missed 😢
@@jameshughes6049 - Bacterial Meningitis.
He was my solid #2 behind Jimi. Beck was a true original player. Nobody else sounded like him.
RIP Jeff Beck 🙏❤️🎸🎶🎶
That’s a sharp guitar, but it sounds a little lifeless, like the strings are dead.
RIP Jeff Beck.
Rest in peace Jeff Beck 🕊️
So long, Jeff Beck. We Miss You! 🎸🎶🎶🎶🎶😎
You should review one of those signature Jeff Beck Oxblood Gibson Les Paul In honor of his legacy. An amazing guitarist who will always be remembered.
I forgot what year his was. Originally with P90s, routed for humbuckers. Hence why the bridge one is crammed against the wrap tail.
R.I.P. Jeff Beck 🎸
Welcome back everyone on this evening of tragic news :( RIP Jeff Beck
Loved and super appreciated the comprehensive timeline here, especially company history from the KMZ/ Nashville launch. Play the Nash for Jeff Beck tomorrow!
Nice score Austin! The Natch Les Paul Customs aren't my 1st choice for a LP Custom but that is a sharp looking guitar and for being nearly 45 years old it is in pretty remarkable condition. Your knowledge on the subject matter is amazing, you've definitely done your homework over the years... 👍
Great video, Austin! As I watched this I looked about 3 feet to my right at my '78 LP Custom (natural) and man, you've got some figure on that 3-piece top! Mine has more of a straight grain but I do love those T-Tops. Low output pickups sound amazing through the old Marshalls.
I really love the natural finishes. This is a beautiful guitar! Thanks for the breakdown!
I have a late ‘78 LPC, and I love the maple necks because the low E is nice and round sounding not mushy like the mahogany necks tend to be
My 76 les Paul standard serial number of course starts with 00. My 81 les Paul custom cherry burst has burst on back and burst neck and chain saw case. Course I bought a new 90s case for it and replaced all black plastic with cream. Still have chain saw case and original black plastics
Such a great vid! I’m a huge Norlin Les Paul fan and your videos were invaluable in helping me track down, inspect and purchase my first ever Norlin era LP Custom. I was able to find my holy grail guitar…a Kalamazoo built 1976 Black Beauty and it’s one of my all time favorite guitars. I feature it in many of my videos.
Great video. I got my first stock Gibson Les Paul Std. in 1981. It was a 1976 although I never saw a serial number on the back of the headstock. Wish I still had it. In 2017 I started buying Norlin eara Les Pauls, 75 Goldtop, a 72 Recording and a 78 Std. to go along with some newer Les Pauls I won. I noticed you never mention the body carve on the top is more flat and not as scooped as a pre or post Norlin. Please enlighten us if you have anything to add.
In 77 I was 18 years old saw 2 of these maple topped customs. Feel In Love and bought one. Played my whole live with it in all kinds of situations and it continues to be my main guitar. Still have original paper work and pink registration card from Gibson. At the time I bought it took all my saving to buy
I kept it in good condition but it has normal west after playing all those years Only difference in my 77 are the knobs are not what you put on it they were slimmer knobs I replaced the bridge as it was worn with Gibson gold plated and the nut. I was glad you reviewed it and mine is heavy.
Thanks @Trog for the in depth review, Austin! I’m surprised there’s no tan lines under the pickguard. I have a Nashville early ‘79 Standard in natural with the same pickups and electronics. Even has “RL” under the TRC. 3-piece top even has some flame and birdseye. My favorite LP of all I’ve played so far.
I replaced the pickups with paf and super distortion dimarzios also
Hey, it's what ya did! 😄 I remember drooling over the Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio and Schecter catalogs back then. It was like out with the old, in with the new. I replaced my '68 Tele pickup with a DiMarzio and threw the original away! Of course it had a brass nut and Schallers, too.
Awesome episode. I absolutely love Les Paul customs. I prefer wine red but like all of them. Thanks for making this and sharing your knowledge with everyone.
Sounds great, easy to play, and looks beautiful. Maybe I can own one..at some point in my future... before I can't play and/or die.
My favorite Year of Les Paul is 1976. even though they are pancake bodies. and my favorite model can range from a classic to a custom. and my favorite finish is natural finish. there's just something about those guitars. if a person finds a good one they are fantastic. they vary quite a bit. but every so often you can find really good one.
Pretty sure my ebony custom is a '76, but after watching this I'll have to go and check this. My best guitar, sustains for days but super heavy, several kilograms!
Hey Austin! The natural cleaned up really nice! Would love to see a video that goes in depth to your cleaning process.
What do you use to clean the finish on your guitars.
Time Stamp: 1:25, FYI - that you have the second catergory of years screen graffics the same as the first category. So 1968 - 1970 is on there twice.
18:20 had one like that. A 1981 or so a REALLY good japanese copy. Miss it a lot. Cheers to Trogsters!
Great video! The same type on Norlin Standards would be awesome as well!!! Thanks Trogs!
Thanks for the info. I've started watching more and more of the Norlin era LPC vids as I've owned one for years without knowing much about them. I bought it for its playability and weight (only about 8lbs, 11oz - which is quite something for a Les Paul). Thanks to you I now know it's an early 1979 LPC make in the KM factory, no pancake, cherry burst with original everything apart from these lovely metal numberless gold knobs that I'm not sure were original or added later (haven't come across these before). It also has a TP-6 which I have grown to like. An outstanding guitar for sound and playability. Your vids have made me fall in love with it all the more. Thanks again.
The capacitors I thought they had grease packed chicklet Russian.....im a Strat guy, that's why I love your show......I hope 2023 is great year for you my friend,!!
And have you ever seen a double cut Nighthawk.....I never played one, and rarely see them anymore....
I got exactly this model from 1980. It was built in Nashville. Bought it used in 1990 for around 800 USD....It just plays wonderful and the neck is straight and extremely stable. The only thing that annoyed me over time were the linear volume pots. Swapped them out for logarithmic ones and now it is a perfect live animal. I still play it live in any climate condition because it does almost not react to temperature changes or humidity.
Got another Custom in Cherry red from 1979 which has the same excellent quality. These two guitars are the foundation of my absolute preference for Customs. If you play in a rock band with two guitarists, a custom is always well heard.
These both are the best Gibson guitars I ever played. From time to time I try some of the new ones in guitar shops and none, really not a single one could match their quality in terms of feel, playability and sound.
Thanks for your video, it does reflect exactly my experience with these guitars.
I have a 1977 Gibson Les Paul Custom with a Maple neck & fretboard that I have owned as new since I was 11. It still has the original case in decent shape and the serial # starts with 06.
Happen to watch the 2009 initiation of Jeff Beck by Jimmie Page in the Rock & Hall of Fame yesterday. A celebration to enjoy..RIP Jeff
I gave Live at Ronnie Scott's a watch earlier. It's here on UA-cam and never gets old.
Just chanced on this overview - cool info! I still have (and play) my 1968 'pre-velute' black Custom - managed to date S. No with the help of a Les Paul forum. Pretty much all stock apart from a new jack-plug. No plans to sell - no idea what it might be worth. I have been checking out a handful of more recent Customs at the stockist here for fun - normal and custom shop - and they seem nice enough and altho quite dear I think when you adjust from 1968 to 2023 the dollar value compares ok.
On Reverb they go from 18K to 35K $.
Austin,
I’m not a big Gibson fan, though I own an ‘08 339 and a 90s Chet Atkins SST. All that to write that I look forward to your videos every day. Your depth of knowledge on the brand is incredible. If you wrote tomorrow that Gibson hired you to be a museum curator, I would not be shocked. The quality of your videos is beyond excellent.
A big thank you and hat’s off to you from Canada.
R.I.P. Jeff Beck
Are the Maple necks stronger then the Mahogany necks (headstock break) I have not seen any broken Maple neck Gibsons but plenty Mahogany!
Yes, they are.
I have a 77 custom just like this one. The letters in the truss rod cover are DL. Does anyone know who at Gibson this might be?
I have to say your knowledge of vintage Gibson Les poles is outstanding. If today comes that I step in to some cash you will be the first person I call. Hopefully that they happen soon and then I can explain the story of what happened to my to customs that I shall desperately miss. Anyway, I appreciate everything that you do on the show it’s very knowledgeable. Thank you again for sharing all of this with us.
I recently bought my first norlin era Les Paul and it's just like the one shown here in the video! A natural top '77 with all original electronics. Love it! Great vid
Gotta ask, how long does it take for the head stock binding to age? Should I say yellow?
Hello. Why is the letter “i” in Gibson not dotted on the headstock? Thank you.
It would be a treat if someone could look at John Fogerty's Creedence-era Gibsons. The ES-175 that did "Proud Mary" was stolen in early 1969, but there was a Les Paul Custom with Bigsby that was damaged and restored with a sunburst finish and short-scale neck. It might be in the Hall of Fame.
Pot code 71-079 = 100K tone pot, which would have paired with a 300K volume pot. That's when these got darker and muddier sounding, due to the switch from 500k/500k tone/volume pots. The originals were much brighter and clearer sounding, as are today's re-issues and historics.
Thanks man! I'm in the market for an old custom and this video is right on time and super informative!
Time Stamp: 3:33 - so who's brilliant idea at Gibson was it for the serial number dates code to be: 99=1975, 00=1976 & 06=1977 - what was the theory or idea behind that?👎
Love the Gibson history Trogly. Thanks
My first “real” guitar was a new 78 Custom in tobacco sunburst that cost me $525. I’d pay that all day today!
My first prnus was tiny but then my next one was just fine, thank you
Tobacco bursts are my favorite. I have a '85 tobacco burst custom that I was lucky enough to pick up a few years ago off of a friend of mine.
@@LBCjeff and in 82 I bought an 81 Standard in t-burst. Traded it two years ago for a new 61 SG/LP standard in cherry because I hadn’t played it in 30 years.
@@dalekoster9955 nice. My first LP was a '90 black LP studio that I bought brand new when I was 17 and then bought a brand new 93 cherry SG standard. I've been able to add a few more to my collection over the years. Aside from my 85 t-burst, I also have a wine 96 studio, 95 wine custom shop Custom, 94-95 wine custom shop classic, and 2013 black custom shop one off LP R-6 w/ a single P-90 in the bridge.
I still think that my original 90 studio sounds and plays the best out of all of my LPs, and it's all stock. Except that I changed out the machine heads for a second set of Gibson deluxe tuners when it got knocked over in the mid 90's.
A friend bought an ebony custom in 1978 and it cost him $1800. Ripped off?
My favorite customs are the early 80’s. I have a black 81 and sunburst 82. They’re phenomenal. I prefer those two over my white 87 custom. Love the maple necks
Very helpful and interesting. You told me a lot about my 76 that I didn’t know. Thank you.
my friend i had that same guitar I loved it im crying looking at it i had the sam natural wood color everything what year is that guitar ? Where did you get that? Mine was a 1980 how much you want for it if you sell it ?
That's a beautiful guitar guess it's player grade still worth a pretty penny still. 1978 the year I graduated HS. Sounds great really nice
Rest in Rock 'n Roll, Jeff Beck
What happened to the dot of the "i" of the Gibson logo on the headstock?
You could get the guitar neck PLEKED at Sweetwater just to make a video for us. I would sure like to learn all about it.
Rhett Shull already did one like that
@@Trog never seen it. I will try to check it out
A lightweight 1972 LP custom (under 9 lbs) with embossed pickups is a joy to play.
In viewing this episode on Norlin LPCs, I’m a little surprised you did not mention the carve on the top changing pretty dramatically between ‘81 and ‘82.
Prolly because they vary from guitar to guitar as much as year to year
All due respect, and with the disclaimer that I have not academically “studied” this. My thoughts come from anecdotal experience. I own, or have owned, LPs ranging from’74-‘82. The ones I know, through the’81s have the same, general gradual slope, up from rim to center and back down. The ‘82s (Nashville Std SB and Kalamazoo 30th Anniversary) have a flat area around the rim, then rise and fall with a definite “belly” in the middle. I’m open and interested to hear others’ observations and experiences.
Gorgeous piece
Love the natural finish Trogly. Thanks for the breakdown. Love this guitar. Thanks. Take care Austin.
Fantastic custom. No, it's not a "burst", just an awesome 45 year old Les Paul Custom.☺☺☺
Jizzed from this one! Jizzy Marone was a popular jazz player known for knobbing down on one of these Customs back in his day. What a legend!
Thanks for this video I have a Gibson black 1976 custom that is super clean all original and the best guitar I have ever played I have have it put away I'm thinking about selling it but not sure I was trying to see if I could send a picture on here but no luck
The binding on my 1980 black Custom is more yellow than that natural top!
I really want one of these but with the maple fretboard, so badass
I have a '76 natural with maple fingerboard. A beautiful guitar. I put gold knobs on it, an amber toggle switch, cream pickup rings and gold hardware including p/u covers and after market pickups that sound the best with this guitar. Unique and awesome tone. Great tone from my two other early '70's mahogany neck with ebony boards Customs also. I got it for $700.00 in the 90's ( the maple neck '76 natural Custom!) Heavy as hell though, but sounds killer!
@@curtisprice9806 Sounds awesome! Rock on my dude
Do you have any idea what type of magnets are in those pickups?
should be alnico 5
@@lowqualityguitarvideos Cool, thanks!
I'm still not understanding the purpose of the pancake bodies. I guess Gibson saved money with wood costs, but with them being more "labor intensive" to put together, wouldn't it be a push as far as costs are concerned?
Sweet Custom and review!!!
I have a late 1977, Kalamazoo-made…it actually has a transitional neck tenon (which is so weird to look at). Killer player!!!
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RL - my initials. First thing I noticed when I saw it on the work bench. Cool
Starting to enjoy the playing demos a lot now.
I would be rocking this Les Paul 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
It looks like Mick Robson's guitar from the front. I know his was a black custom with the finish removed from the front.
5:09 That's supposed to be maple after '75, right?
70's LPC's are just special & T-tops are the best 'buckers Gibson's ever made (imho of course). I love late 70's Les Pauls.
yesterday i got myself a Epiphone LP modern. It kinda has terrible fret buzz, but only between the 3rd and 9th Fret (all strings). Can someone help me what might cause that??? raising the bridge kinda helps, bit i don’t want to play 3mm action.
Did you make sure the truss rod is set correctly?
Sometimes frets climb out of their slots. Get a plastic or wooden hammer and lightly tap. Sometimes frets are too tall -- if so, filing is called for. But be very careful here, you can't put metal back if you guess wrong. There are fret board sanders that are long enough to keep everything flat and even. But, first things first: truss rod adjustment and bridge height must be spot-on. Find a technician, watch a lot of videos...whatever it takes, the answers are out there. It's best if you can learn to do all these things for yourself.
Just re-read your post. If its all the strings between all those frets, its probably the truss rod adjustment. New guitar, should be all right at the nut, but to check, hold the E string at the third fret and look at the spacing at the first fret. Shouldn't touch and shouldn't be too high either. And the strings should all be relatively the same height off the fretboard at the nut. Then hold the string down at the first fret and with the other hand hold the string down at some fret at the other end. Some people like the 17th fret, some the 19th, some the 22nd. Whatever. Look at the string height at every fret, especially between the 3rd and the 9th, and look at the neck curve. Should be flat, with a slight relief (i.e. string not touching). Could use feeler gauges, could use a bit of paper, could just use your eyes. Call up some truss rod adjustment videos. It gets easier with time.
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I had a black '72 Custom. Wish I kept it.
JAMES SCOTT NICHOLSON,ONTARIO, CANADA 🇨🇦 I WATCH YOUR SHOW FAITHFULLY, SIX STRINGS DOWN R.I.P. AND RIP(ROCK IN PARADISE)GEOFFREY ARNOLD BECK, PLAYED THE FAMOUS OX BLOOD
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CANNOT BELIEVE HE DID NOT MENTION IT. HIS EPISODE ON THE OX BLOOD, KINDA MAKES YOU THINK WHILE PUTTING THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE!!! YA I KNOW, YOU DON’T LIKE MY COMMENT.
DIED ON THE 10th
My first guitar was a 78' Custom for $500.00 in 89'. It was cherry burst and I should have bought the wine red one right next to it.
Do all les pauls have a truss rods?
What a beautiful guitar!! Wow
Can you play a full song at the end of a video, Trogly. Do you know Oh Well, by Peter Green in the early version of Fleetwood Mac? Can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin.
I know you’re a Gibson and sometimes Fender and Ibanez guy, but it’d be cool if you did a video checking out the new PRS guitars, the SE line got a few new models, and some new finishes. The SE Hollowbody Standard comes in “Dog Hair Smokeburst”. (Guess it’s like that Silver Fox finish from Gibson but in a subtle burst?)
I have 2 of those new PRS on the way
I have a 75 Standard with the name Roberta in the pickup route. Always wondered who she is lol. Of course the guitar is named Roberta
I just got an Eric Johnson Virginia, which was the name in the neck pocket of his beloved '54 Strat.
What would my long gone 86 cherry sunburst standard be worth today?
Okay, so I’ve never heard of “Buckle Worming” in my entire life until you described it and here I am now looking at an ‘82 LPC that described the back as having that exactly haha.
those natural customs with the maple neck might actually be my favourite version
Thanks for the Video give a try on Crimson Guitar Cleaning products there Sweet. Have you ever been to Norm’s Guitar Shop?
Funny how so many people hate early small-low frets.. some of us hate the tall-fats that ruin guitars these days. Really useful breakdown on Les guitars.. well done!👍👍
Me too, I hate a vintage guitar with jumbo frets
Very good educational video! Thanks!
Anyone ever seen a 3 piece maple neck Gibson with a repaired headstock?...lol
Besides Ace Frehley's, which, I think was a maple necked 76 or 77 Custom?
My buckle worming on the back of my 77 Les Paul was from rivets in Levi jeans
Known as "rivet divots"
5:05 Is that backwards? Maple pre '75?
yes, it is backwards in text. Thank you for pointing it out
does anyone else think trogly should do a definitive 'history of the les paul' with real examples from his collection? I'm sure he wouldn't have an example for everything but he should do what he did at the beginning of the video, but go all out with al the little spec changes that can be found across the years, leading up to the modern era
Only 9lbs for this 1978 Custom without weight relief? My old 1975 Custom was for sure a boat anchor by comparison. I'm a lot older now and my 2013 50s Tribute supposedly with trad weight relief feels heavy at 9lbs.
Nice one. Really a good looking git-fiddle. 👌
I've got a 85 custom so I guess it's a Norlin era guitar.
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Congratulations on climbing to the summit of the Mole Hill and earning a Gold Medal
Just in time for my 1980 yellowed LPC that you just evaluated ;)
Sounds good.
Last minute edit for Jeff Beck maybe?