Conservatism vs Liberalism

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  • Conservatism and Liberalism are the main Social theories within Political Philosophy. Whilst Conservatism favours social tradition Liberalism favours social change and individual liberty.
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  • @PhilosophyVibe
    @PhilosophyVibe  4 роки тому +10

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    • @newhope5729
      @newhope5729 2 роки тому +1

      OMG, These cartoons talk with more maturity than any of the humans, the way they told problems of each other and put forward the good points of each other, plus the whole hearted acceptance of the problems, Awesome man, 👏👏 This is what I call a great discussion,a discussion of intellectuals, 🥰

    • @audiobooksproject4829
      @audiobooksproject4829 2 роки тому

      Everyone should read Pat Buchanan's book The Death of the West to know what real conservatism is. I recorded an audiobook version of it, available on my channel.

    • @newhope5729
      @newhope5729 2 роки тому +2

      @@audiobooksproject4829 Would you please give me some sort of trailer of it, 😊 Or maybe some insight, if I'll find it interesting then I'll definitely listen to it, 😊 BTW you look like a conservative..... But where were you people when your traditions and customs were being shredded by the liberals? 🤔 Isn't it your responsibility to protect them? 🤔☹️

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      @newhope5729 2 роки тому +2

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  • @newhope5729
    @newhope5729 2 роки тому +122

    OMG, These cartoons talk with more maturity than any of the humans, the way they told problems of each other and put forward the good points of each other, plus the whole hearted acceptance of the problems, Awesome man, 👏👏 This is what I call a great discussion,a discussion of intellectuals, 🥰

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  2 роки тому +7

      Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed.

    • @newhope5729
      @newhope5729 2 роки тому

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    • @noel7777noel
      @noel7777noel 6 місяців тому

      "Over dramatic" is technically lying.
      lib·er·al
      adjective
      Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

  • @4ChristStanding
    @4ChristStanding 3 роки тому +128

    Just saw this video, and I love that you look at both sides. I lean conservative, but also try to understand and respect other people’s opinions.

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  3 роки тому +13

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed.

    • @audiobooksproject4829
      @audiobooksproject4829 2 роки тому +2

      Everyone should read Pat Buchanan's book The Death of the West to know what real conservatism is. I recorded an audiobook version of it, available on my channel.

    • @gobimurugesan2411
      @gobimurugesan2411 2 роки тому +2

      So ur a liberal

    • @tazd7749
      @tazd7749 2 роки тому +8

      @@gobimurugesan2411 how does that mean he is liberal?

    • @jasongooden917
      @jasongooden917 2 роки тому +2

      @@gobimurugesan2411 depends on what he sets on fire

  • @chrisgross5925
    @chrisgross5925 Рік тому +53

    If we could all learn to talk and listen to each other this way

    • @PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak
      @PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak 8 місяців тому

      @@PineappleElephant68 Instead you get some crazy man with beer belly screaming that women have too much rights 🤣🤣🤣

    • @lysolxx6525
      @lysolxx6525 Місяць тому +2

      @@PineappleElephant68Please don’t act as if Liberals are the only crazy ones. I’m personally neither as I’ve noticed how hostile both groups are towards each other… you two groups go back and forth all the time. I’ve seen propaganda from both sides. It’s sad. We are all to blame and I’m tired of people acting as if it’s only one party to blame. They both have their own faults.

    • @anthonyregalado7336
      @anthonyregalado7336 16 днів тому +1

      @@lysolxx6525I agree

  • @rhowell0317
    @rhowell0317 Рік тому +27

    This is a perfect example of the way in which WE ALL need to consider sharing our personal beliefs with others who have different worldviews! In reality, the majority of us tend to overreact and become defensive and/or offended.

    • @hongtamnguyen7294
      @hongtamnguyen7294 8 місяців тому

      well what if I think that overreaction is the result of liberalism 😂

    • @EshDerp1425_Monke
      @EshDerp1425_Monke 4 місяці тому

      @@hongtamnguyen7294then you’d be wrong

    • @EshDerp1425_Monke
      @EshDerp1425_Monke 4 місяці тому

      @@hongtamnguyen7294 nvm there’s no right or wrong here. I
      Believe both sides cause overreactions

  • @headslayer_7077
    @headslayer_7077 Рік тому +47

    I ♥ Conservatism

    • @CyberPotato123
      @CyberPotato123 6 місяців тому +5

      i dont like conservatism and liberalism, i dont believe in any religion and dont think nationalism is good but i also dont like liberalism, its ruining society, im in the middle, are you left or right if we are talking about economy?

    • @zer0chill644
      @zer0chill644 6 місяців тому +6

      Trump 2024!

    • @Almilka
      @Almilka 5 місяців тому +2

      eww

    • @zer0chill644
      @zer0chill644 5 місяців тому

      @@Almilka eeww liberals

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 2 місяці тому

      @@CyberPotato123You should read the #NewTestament. It’s worth your time.

  • @metatron4890
    @metatron4890 6 років тому +83

    The issue i have here is that liberalism sounds like being libertarianism.

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  6 років тому +31

      Really good point and I know where you're coming from. I think in recent years a distinction has been made between Liberalism and Libertarianism as Liberalism has changed in certain ways. This video is referring to Liberalism in the classic sense, so Classical Liberalism as it is now being described as.

    • @metatron4890
      @metatron4890 6 років тому +2

      +Philosophy Vibe yes, I figured as much but in the later video the blue shirt guy argues for socialism...

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  6 років тому +9

      Yes it can't be taken too literal, we're just trying to get the arguments on both sides, so we decided for the liberal to argue for socialism and the conservative to argue for capitalism. The characters haven't really got a solid personality, if you watch all videos there might be inconsistencies in their arguments across a variety of videos.

    • @maxabramson4781
      @maxabramson4781 3 роки тому +11

      Basically, socialists and communists have been hiding their agenda behind words like liberalism and progressivism and running for office "as Democrats." They keep denying that they have anything to do with the old Jacksonian Democrats who were for slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, racial profiling, racist gun control laws, segregation of public schools, etc. They now insist that they've completely changed. If they really have a different agenda, why don't they just use the Socialist Party brand name?

    • @kookadams85
      @kookadams85 3 роки тому +2

      @@maxabramson4781 exactly.

  • @ENGlishJELLo-yk7up
    @ENGlishJELLo-yk7up 2 місяці тому +1

    Freedom doesn't come without sacrifice
    One dies in war (Sacrifice) while the other lives in peace (Freedom)

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060
    @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 2 роки тому +38

    According to this video I'm liberal in the sense that I stress the importance of being an individual that makes their own choices, but that doesn't describe how the democratic party operates at all in the US. It's all about group identity. You are bullied and/or canceled if you disagree with the group's ideals. I hated it when I heard Biden say that you're not black if you vote Republican despite the long history of racism in the democratic party.

    • @nomo9344
      @nomo9344 Рік тому +5

      Liberals actually believe in societal or collective "responsibility", and are in favor of increased govt. control of your everyday life, whereas the conservative believes in individual responsibility and less govt. control. The liberal may have their desire to be "individualistic," however, and as you stated, if your "individual" views and beliefs are contrary to the collective (eg. the mainstream media dominated left), you stand a good chance of being ridiculed, cancelled, etc. Who gets cancelled at a higher rate?

    • @tylerreynolds9013
      @tylerreynolds9013 Рік тому

      @@nomo9344 so why are conservatives pro life

    • @nomo9344
      @nomo9344 Рік тому +1

      @@tylerreynolds9013 because they're conservative and right

    • @tylerreynolds9013
      @tylerreynolds9013 Рік тому +1

      @@nomo9344 sry, I should probably elaborate.
      pro life means banning abortion, which is a form of govt control. so wouldn't pro life be a liberal stance?

    • @tylerreynolds9013
      @tylerreynolds9013 Рік тому +1

      @@nomo9344 sry, I should probably elaborate.
      pro life means banning abortion, which is a form of govt control. so wouldn't pro life be a liberal stance?

  • @michaelvozniak3200
    @michaelvozniak3200 3 роки тому +19

    “When forced into a binary, you always choose wrong.”
    -Jelani Wilson

    • @MisterRa
      @MisterRa 2 роки тому +1

      We don't force people into anything... It's called science and biology XD

    • @xalaxium
      @xalaxium Рік тому

      @@MisterRathis is the most braindead comment ive ever read

  • @cardinalwilson8034
    @cardinalwilson8034 3 роки тому +5

    about 1:48 please refer to 0:24

  • @cyberedge881
    @cyberedge881 2 роки тому +12

    Great video. Although, I would argue that your liberal character sounds more like a libertarian/classical liberal and not like a modern leftist/socialist/progressive.
    I myself am a moderate with strong libertarian leanings. I would never describe myself as either progressive or conservative, given that neither change nor tradition are unqualified goods.

    • @nomo9344
      @nomo9344 Рік тому

      Definitely agree with your assertion that the liberal character seems more libertarian/classic liberal than the modern day leftist. A HUGE difference between the two.

    • @bloodmoonrising871
      @bloodmoonrising871 Рік тому

      libertarians are basically conservatives who allow drug use.

  • @sergeantsapient
    @sergeantsapient 6 місяців тому +1

    This is a pretty good summary of the differences between the two.

  • @didactichub478
    @didactichub478 2 роки тому +18

    thank you so much it really helped me alot in understanding both terms

  • @jasonl9266
    @jasonl9266 6 місяців тому +1

    A little of both makes a whole lot of sense

  • @MsIvargas
    @MsIvargas 9 місяців тому +1

    Strong traditional hard working men are you here with me?

    • @alphagamma4582
      @alphagamma4582 9 місяців тому

      Depends on what you mean by traditional. If you're referring to when whites approved and exercise slavery of Africans and indigenous? Then, no. If you mean when non white men and women could not vote? Then no. If you mean when women were not to be educated and limited only to the home? Then no. If you mean believing in a flat earth and burning people at the stake because they defied the church beliefs? Then no.

  • @chazs4272
    @chazs4272 4 роки тому +55

    I farted in my car and now it smells like weed in here. Strange.

  • @JonGreen91
    @JonGreen91 11 місяців тому +2

    I just watched a video of liberalism versus libertarianism, and he describe libertarianism as you describe liberalism.
    He also might say that it’s not conservatism versus liberalism, but liberalism versus neoliberalism.

  • @BencLin
    @BencLin 4 роки тому +12

    This definition of liberalism is not what the US has.

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 3 роки тому +2

      no
      America is slightly to the right of the spectrum
      center-right
      Canada is center -left
      they legalized marijuana years ago and gay marriage through the legislature

    • @airbus_a320neo
      @airbus_a320neo 3 роки тому +3

      The form of liberalism in this video is _classical_ liberalism, the US have _modern_ liberalism

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 3 роки тому

      @@airbus_a320neo but since classical
      liberalism is another name for libertarianism you have classical liberalism in libertarianism and modern liberalism

    • @airbus_a320neo
      @airbus_a320neo 3 роки тому +1

      @@robinsss bruh no. Classical liberalism and libertarianism are different. Google it

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 3 роки тому

      @@airbus_a320neo i have googled it
      i don't see the difference
      what is it?

  • @aleksmoran.
    @aleksmoran. 7 місяців тому +3

    Always wondered what these both terms meant glad to learn something new but I still don’t care for either

  • @theycall21
    @theycall21 Рік тому +7

    The core of my beliefs have not changed. 20yrs ago, I was a liberal in the USA. Today I am a conservative with the same beliefs.

  • @LostRussianLove
    @LostRussianLove 3 місяці тому +1

    Conservatism teaches conformity while Liberalism teaches individuality. We are all individuals. This world is full of individual humans, not an ant farm. We are not Cookie cutter clones like ants.

  • @wonkygustav4457
    @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому +20

    It’s funny conservatives have a sense of being one but only within their own culture where as liberals feel a sense of being one when we all connect with each other not limiting ourselves to our group

    • @wonkygustav4457
      @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому +2

      Joshua Elwood because they’re so short sighted lol

    • @wonkygustav4457
      @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому +1

      Braden Mcgill shame you don’t act accepting of others when you just go round condemning them, calling them sinners very loving not!

    • @wonkygustav4457
      @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому +1

      Joshua Elwood there is a lot of political extremism at the moment.

    • @wonkygustav4457
      @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому

      Joshua Elwood what has that got to do with wether conservatism is short sighted? I stand by that belief, it’s hardly moving forward conserving the past is it!

    • @wonkygustav4457
      @wonkygustav4457 4 роки тому +1

      Joshua Elwood conservatism is all about maintaining the status quo, I have little interest in your past, I wish to move forward from it not keep reliving it. I accept that we aren’t all completely one or the other but the concept of conservatism as I stated is not what I support.

  • @beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175
    @beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175 4 роки тому +9

    Some fallacies made here. Individuals will always share common beliefs.

  • @wandaarcher5126
    @wandaarcher5126 5 місяців тому +1

    Too much too far is too much that when you must draw the one red line you don’t cross!!!!!!

  • @kennylaughon6215
    @kennylaughon6215 3 роки тому +2

    I think you have taken advantage of our impressionable youth!

  • @cardinalwilson8034
    @cardinalwilson8034 3 роки тому +5

    Humans didm't just evolve in one day, evolution is a process.
    People made mistakes and we must learn from it but there is no reason to repeat the whole course just because you failed in one subject.

  • @hiroipip
    @hiroipip 2 роки тому +4

    the thing is that liberalism is the tradition of usa, the founding fathers are basically liberal which making me a liberal but also a conservative lol

    • @godlike1361
      @godlike1361 Рік тому

      You're a moderate. One that takes stances in both.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 Рік тому +3

      Founding fathers were more libertarian than liberal or conservative

  • @PeriwinkleB
    @PeriwinkleB 5 місяців тому +1

    This video is beautiful

  • @Biggboy29
    @Biggboy29 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the breakdown I needed it lol

  • @Bossmark123
    @Bossmark123 Рік тому +1

    I am proud conservative

  • @heather_hill_HHH
    @heather_hill_HHH Місяць тому

    it just means a certain degree of balance between one and the other, innit.

  • @ellafrancisco8675
    @ellafrancisco8675 11 місяців тому

    the last bit hit the nail on the head!!!!!

  • @imconst9088
    @imconst9088 3 роки тому +2

    thanks I needed this for school

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr5179 7 місяців тому

    Yes we are finally starting to take an interest in our Universe.

  • @LMFPlaya
    @LMFPlaya Рік тому +1

    I believe that national tradition/culture/beliefs can help bring people together but I also believe people should have their own individuality if they want. So am I conservative, liberal, both, or neither? Is there an in-between I can choose lol.

    • @kijangberburu5991
      @kijangberburu5991 Рік тому +1

      Centrism

    • @dragoncat5767
      @dragoncat5767 7 місяців тому

      But still we should be open to many ideas and beliefs against from what has been through in past as there are many things which are actually ok, was considered not ok in past.

  • @sensualserenity
    @sensualserenity 3 роки тому +4

    @0:38
    the change of tonality LOL homie was creeped out after that "I see"
    @2:23 my new favorite activity
    anywho, i do disagree though in regards to liberalism having the potential to separate us as a collective society. Sure, we may be different in certain aspects (because of that freedom to choose and thus freedom to walk our own path i.e be OURSELVES), but fundamentally we are one. On a more spiritual and also biological sense. The human populace is the populace we can most relate to.
    Also, there is bound to be shared common beliefs among groups of people. Is it bad to be divided into groups? No, because if everyone were alike, that would be rather boring and bizarre. Everyone is, thankfully, different in different regards.
    In regards to culture, for many it is not important. Connecting on a deeper sense may be more important to that population, and that's fine. Whereas the "cultured" individuals (aka conservatism) feel culture is what brings them together, while the liberalists have different values of what it means to be connected and maintain that connection by different, equally valid means :)

  • @gregharoutunian4836
    @gregharoutunian4836 2 роки тому +3

    Plain and simple. Conserve life

  • @Some1Philosophy
    @Some1Philosophy 3 місяці тому

    Is it correct to refer to "change" as progressiveness?
    Both conversatism and liberalism support it but the first seems to prioritize collectivism, the latter favors individualism.

    • @LostRussianLove
      @LostRussianLove 3 місяці тому

      In the very last like 30 seconds of the video, he basically says that conservatism is brainwashing so people can think simular, while liberalism are free thinkers.

  • @cedricquilal-lan1616
    @cedricquilal-lan1616 2 роки тому +1

    I'd like to be spectatorism.

  • @AshigoJam
    @AshigoJam 8 місяців тому

    Conservatism❌
    Liberalism❌
    Egalitarianism✅

  • @StephenLewisful
    @StephenLewisful Рік тому +2

    Politic-ing has to be done, there is no way to avoid it. Language and the undefinable terms we use are the source of the difficulties we face as humans. We can find solid definitions of the terms Liberal and Conservative but if you ask an individual, they will each have a unique interpretation of what it means, to them, to be one. Life's not black or white, and so, firm grips on your own beliefs are breaking points.

    • @StephenLewisful
      @StephenLewisful Рік тому +1

      @Eyezayah It's definitely a trip. I politely disagree with the notion of an absolute anything so I do deny absolute black and white. Greyness implies a binary mixture of black and white while we see there are more than two sides of every issue. So I think of issues as a mixture of a spectrum of multiple views blending to make all sorts of colors when combined. In the end what I don't believe in is answers because answers would be final. The best humanity comes up with are solutions that minimize problems. Solutions are more flexible and can be replaced when a better solution comes along.
      That's my philosophy anyway and you git what ya paid fer it.🤠 Take care out there.

  • @RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW
    @RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW 6 місяців тому

    One builds a nation and the other destroys it. Guess which is which.

  • @hfrt29
    @hfrt29 9 днів тому

    That's where entitlement came into play. Being liberal

  • @Tobby1923
    @Tobby1923 Рік тому

    I am a conservative but I do agree with some motives of liberalism, I respect everyone who claim to be "mid-left, mid-right and far-right". However I do not agree most things a far-left person says. (I would like to exclude economical ideologies such as communism from this argument because I do believe that a Nationalist half communist government could work, anyway) I believe that a countries tradition should be kept and all immigrants that arrive to the country s should try to adapt the culture of the Nation. I do believe in the theory of replacement without the most extreme belief. (Coming from an Immigrant, i believe that conservation values are very important and that individual freedom should not mean the freedom to "wear skirts or make up as a man" or "be gay") I believe in my religious and tradition values and I do my best to adapt to the tradition of the country I immigrated to, so that they can keep their conservative tradition values and not be replaced by my 3rd party beliefs.

  • @TorontoPopulistConservative
    @TorontoPopulistConservative 2 роки тому +5

    The liberalism described in this video is my conservatism, almost to a tee. See, I believe that rugged individualism and personal freedom are the most important traditional values of the USA, and by American power and influence, other western countries as well. I always voted Liberal because I thought the definition given here was true. Upon paying further attention, I realized that what we are offered under left-wing parties nowadays is something radically different. Freedom is mocked, collectivism is praised and individualism ridiculed. Freedom of speech, freedom to defend one's self, freedom of assembly are all attacked by proponents of the modern left. The modern right seeks to disassociate from people who believe in racist or other discriminatory ideologies, is against race (or other immutable characteristic)-based categorization of people known as identity politics, and is vehemently against the erosion of freedom of speech colloquially refereed to as cancel culture. Due to the radical shift in recent times (or clarification of what the agenda was all along), I have found that conservatism better describes and brings about my beliefs centred around personal freedom.

    • @justamerica856
      @justamerica856 2 роки тому +1

      What about if you don't believe that you MUST hold tradition and cutom as the most important required things to be happy. And instead you just believe that whatever leads to making you happy and healthy and isn't harmful (which can be anything that leads to positive outcome and not sadistic harmful) feelings) is important instead. What ism would you call that?

    • @TorontoPopulistConservative
      @TorontoPopulistConservative 2 роки тому

      @@justamerica856 Individualism? This is actually what the founding fathers wanted, with "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as the most important basic rights. America's tradition is to be individualist, so I would say your ideology could be called personal individualism vs the national individualism that is enshrined in American values and tradition.

    • @epicphailure88
      @epicphailure88 Рік тому +1

      No such thing as a left-wing party in the US and Canada. Too many people are brainwashed by this basic fact.

  • @adreenainlove
    @adreenainlove 10 місяців тому

    I am very liberal, compared to my family, but i see how liberalism in the west has divided us so much. There is no togetherness, at least not in America. It makes me sad.

  • @Ussonan-Foderation2016
    @Ussonan-Foderation2016 7 місяців тому

    1:45
    Showing Lenin doesn't help your case, bud

  • @colinchock
    @colinchock Рік тому

    it starts by accurately implying that political philosophy can be divided into liberalism and conservatism.
    after that it strikes out in every way.
    what it describes as liberalism is actually libertarianism (if you define libertarianism as I do, that is "conservatism with an emphasis on individual liberty").
    what it describes as the political philosophy of conservatism is actually a description of people who are psychologically conservative, i.e. have a conservative personality. (for example, people who dress conservatively.)
    the video doesn't say what the true aspects of liberalism and conservatism as political philosophies are.
    the primary characteristics of conservatism as a political philosophy are:
    -freedom
    -judeo-christian principles
    -e pluribus unum
    -and "do your duty."
    the primary characteristics of liberalism are:
    -equity (AKA equality of outcome)
    -secular humanism
    -diversity (AKA multiculturalism)
    -and "follow your heart."
    I would say that the secondary values of the philosophy of conservatism are capitalism and Constitutional representative democracy.
    and the secondary values of liberalism are socialism and Athenian democracy.
    again, the mistakes this video makes is first to conflate political philosophy with personality.
    and second, to mistake libertarianism for liberalism.

  • @NoneofUrbusiness-p9w
    @NoneofUrbusiness-p9w 25 днів тому +1

    Accepting everything but conservatives.

  • @MrThejboe3oh5
    @MrThejboe3oh5 Рік тому

    Liberalism and conservatism in regards to "politicians"oddly enough changes from region to region,even within a country and its states as any one can have a foundation or core of an idea/belief,but it changes from person to person as ones opinions,education, comprehensive understanding,perspective,situations and beliefs dont always perfectly align with these core values.Example:In the United States Conservatives and Liberals are not the same as in England nor France.Many English Conservatives would sound like an American liberal at times and oddly enough their relationships tend to be better between the opposing sides (in the west) than those who they align with or are assumed to see eye to eye.In the States, a Texas conservative and a New York conservative are so different and the Citizens have a serious lack of being able to identify the differences..majority just pick s side without even being fully aware or knowledgeable of who they are choosing to represent them.The most important choice of a citizen (especially of the United States) is to remain in the Center, because whether you like it or not as an American you tend to be a bit conservative and as well a bit Liberal by default. If you don't remain at the center or moderate,you actually do lose your value and now work for the politicians because you are sided,rather than refusing to be moved without action and representation ,they now have to work for you/your vote,it creates leverage.Situations do change and sometimes the current state of any nation calls for different ideas to be put into actions,as too much of anything is never good.Even in my reply,I'm pretty sure someone's opinion will be different,but if they choose to be moderate they can stand in the middle by using their basic awareness and communication skills to see both perspectives leading to negotiation and solved problems.

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 4 роки тому +14

    It is interesting for me, an American, to watch this because we define liberalism and conservatism very differently. In the U.S. conservatives fight to conserve the constitution as much as any cultural values. Our constitution is almost as old as our country, and much of our culture revolves around individual liberty. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here.
    One of those liberties is the right to keep your own property, including, our incomes. People on the other side, whatever name you wish to refer to them by, liberals, leftists, progressives, etc... believe it is the right of the government, and a benefit, for government to tax people, from which money is given by the government to whoever they decide needs it.
    This behavior by the government is not described in the constitution, and charity is assumed by conservatives to be the responsibility of individuals, not the government.

    • @seonghwan2
      @seonghwan2 4 роки тому +1

      Great response 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.

    • @jimba6486
      @jimba6486 4 роки тому +2

      I disagree. To reword what you said to show what I think it is:
      It is interesting for me, an American, to watch this because we define liberalism and conservatism very differently. In the U.S. conservatives fight to conserve cultural values. Our constitution is almost as old as our country, and much of our culture revolves around individual liberty. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here.
      One of those liberties is the right to keep your own property, including, our incomes. People on the other side, whatever name you wish to refer to them by, liberals, leftists, progressives, etc... believe that cultural values are not as important of a view to craft policy, instead to view it from a spectrum of Oppression and liberating individuals from institutions of Oppression.
      Your contrasting ideas @deezynar are not apples to apples comparison. Liberals obviously start at the same starting point as we conservatives do, and this the constitution. our differences are different on a pychological political axis. Civilization vs Barbarism. Wheras liberals think on terms of oppression versus liberation of oppression. You are falsely interpreting them as antithetical to what we think is important for a cohesive nation on strong patriotism.

    • @deezynar
      @deezynar 4 роки тому +2

      @@jimba6486 Liberals wish to change the constitution. You say that both sides start at the same starting point, the constitution, which is true, but conservatives wish to keep the constitution as is, at least mostly. Most conservatives would love an amendment outlawing abortion. But Leftists would change it significantly. First of all, they'd mutilate the first amendment by adding "hate speech" clauses. And they'd just repeal the second. They'd make abortion, homosexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, transexuality, and every other type deviancy you can think of, would all be constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of course, they'd pass an equal rights amendment that would claim to give females equal rights to men, even though the constitution does not currently differentiate between men and women. Leftists would probably make drug use a constitutionally protected right as well. Leftism has mutated over time. Originally, it was just about being against capitalism, but over time it has embraced moral deviancy as firmly as Marxism.
      So, in a way, you, and I, agree that culture is one of the central issues here. The changes that Leftists wish to make would absolutely have cultural ramifications, and they are motivated to change our culture by changing our constitution.
      My original comment said that conservatives in the U.S. "fight to conserve the constitution as much as any cultural values. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here." My point being that culture and constitution are directly linked.
      There is one more issue that neither of us mentioned. There are people on the Left who are actively working to destroy the United States, not just turn it into a paradise for drug addicts, and sexual deviants. They believe that running it into the ground, destroying our economic structure as well as our morals, then they hope to come in afterward and create what they hope will be a Marxist paradise, but would actually be a living hell on earth. Antifa, and Black Lives Matter, are both working towards that goal.

    • @G_Koch
      @G_Koch 4 роки тому +3

      @@deezynar You're calling homosexuality, bisexuality etc. a "deviancy"?

    • @GuilhermeRodrigues-wj9ps
      @GuilhermeRodrigues-wj9ps 4 роки тому +2

      You're just a stupid ancap then

  • @meditaion-bv5zz
    @meditaion-bv5zz 2 роки тому

    I still don't get it

  • @Islas_Canarias
    @Islas_Canarias 8 місяців тому

    The young are liberal. The older folks are conservative.

    • @Feng-b1b
      @Feng-b1b 4 місяці тому +1

      No I'm 19 and I'm a hardcore conservative 😂😂😂

    • @jacobrobles474
      @jacobrobles474 3 місяці тому

      And as the older you get the more conservative you become

  • @JoBagodonut
    @JoBagodonut Рік тому +2

    As one becomes older they realize the things they wasted and naturally become more conservative of the things remaining especially the things they have worked to achieve. However, someone who never works to acheive anything will always ask for more of those giving !

  • @jrdn1x
    @jrdn1x Рік тому

    What if you like both sides

  • @Rp-pi5df
    @Rp-pi5df Рік тому

    I wish conservatism was as described in the US. Liberal here.

  • @brandon8bpferris253
    @brandon8bpferris253 Рік тому

    Give us an updated version of this👀👀🤣

  • @jonathanthainguyen
    @jonathanthainguyen 3 місяці тому

    No, I don’t see the argument. You can’t force people to be the same. That’s what freedom is. The choice.

  • @shadowguarder2857
    @shadowguarder2857 Рік тому

    so liberalism is... freedom and conservatism is... culture?

  • @deadman746
    @deadman746 Рік тому

    Liberalism isn't opposed to conservatism. Progressivism is.

  • @tat2urface1
    @tat2urface1 2 роки тому +3

    Theoretically, this is perhaps true however in practice there are enormous differences in how these ideologies behave across western societies. Liberals seem to favor government control, and desire more stringent policies regarding laws that they believe will benefit their viewpoint. Conservatives almost exclusively promote minimal governmental involvement and stand for individual freedom, as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's freedoms. To reinforce this observation, conservatives are more focused on strengthening the nuclear family and reinforcing the role of parental guidance while the liberals are focused on collectivism, wanting to assign the state with more authority over children than the parents, via learning institutions, often trying to incorporate their values into school curriculums to indoctrinate children into their ideological views. Freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom to remain open during a pandemic and freedom to decide what irreversible medical procedures are performed on them are all examples of these same overall views on the part of liberals and conservatives.

    • @mcredwolf925
      @mcredwolf925 2 роки тому +5

      As a liberal I couldn’t disagree more. This is a completely closed-minded view on the two. Here’s an example that I would argue is more accurate and inclusive of sub-groups.
      Im its most general sense, Liberals believe in helping those of need (meaning people who are disadvantaged) first. Conservatives believe in upholding the status quo; be it empires of government

    • @stayswervin554
      @stayswervin554 2 роки тому

      Mc redwolf If you actually look at what he said he’s right on the money.
      But you define a liberal as someone who wants to help others when I disagree.
      Conservatives donate more to charity
      Liberals try to steal others wealth and dictate where it goes
      Conservatives believe in individual
      Liberals believe in government or collectivism

    • @mcredwolf925
      @mcredwolf925 2 роки тому +1

      @@stayswervin554 That is misconstrued I feel. I personally would rather see a level playing field over taking peoples money. It’s like the powerful control us and abuse their privileges, so why not take what they stole from us?

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr5179 7 місяців тому

    That's all conservatism Does is Hold us Back to Process.

    • @LarryBonson
      @LarryBonson 7 місяців тому

      Progress lead us not knowing what women is 🤣🤣🤣

  • @treypitts9803
    @treypitts9803 Рік тому

    Yea this a good video. This just confirms that I am a conservative

  • @Coyote1.618
    @Coyote1.618 Місяць тому

    You can call it whatever BS you want to call it.. You'll never stay true to what you are.

  • @MartinHomeVideo
    @MartinHomeVideo 8 місяців тому

    Conservatism and liberalism don’t stand against each other. Antagonism of conservatism is progressivism and antagonism of liberalism is fascism!

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr5179 7 місяців тому

    Remember what conservatives did to Copernicus

  • @justamerica856
    @justamerica856 2 роки тому +2

    What about if you don't believe that you MUST hold tradition and cutom as the most important required things to be happy. And instead you just believe that whatever leads to making you happy and healthy and isn't harmful (which can be anything that leads to positive outcome and not sadistic harmful) feelings) is important instead. What ism would you call that?

  • @Srindal4657
    @Srindal4657 4 місяці тому

    Liberal argument: communities are made up of individuals. Help an individual and you help the community

  • @godlike1361
    @godlike1361 Рік тому

    kinda sad that America has reduced to this. The issue with two sides to choose is one can be problematic if you lean on one side further. The ideal part of the spectrum is the center. Why do people forget that Moderates don't exists?

  • @CollectvlyUnconsious
    @CollectvlyUnconsious 4 роки тому +27

    Have you ever thought that maybe the civilizations that succeeded do so because they adapted true principles about human nature that lead to social welfare, and passed those on through tradition?
    Like taboos against sexual promiscuity. Prior to anti-biotics and contraceptives, abstinence and monogamy protected from deadly disease pandemics like AIDS, Syphilis, and also TB though that isn't a STD it was often had by poor prostitutes. Societies that had strong taboos against promiscuity had less single parent households, which was and is the biggest indicator of future criminal activity. They had less poverty, which meant society could spend more time on Philosophy, medicine. Research.
    If you investigate every taboo held by conservatism you will find evolutionary advantages those taboos would yield historically.
    Progressive Liberals now tend to make changes based on how they, or someone else will feel... not based on evidence or even really a plan.

    • @coreyx8819
      @coreyx8819 2 роки тому

      which means liberalism is all about being whiny poosis while conservative is facts don't care about emotions

    • @ilikepancakes2368
      @ilikepancakes2368 Рік тому +4

      People will be promiscuous regardless of you make them taboo or not. It’s ironic how you complain about single motherhood and criminal activity when abortion rights can easily prevent these as long as we make them accessible. But conservatives are not interested in preventing poverty or crime as much as they are interested into punishing women for being sexually expressive.

    • @dagothur3592
      @dagothur3592 Рік тому

      @@ilikepancakes2368 Saying abortion stops single motherhood is akin to saying killing homeless people will lower the number of homeless people. It technically works, but its frowned upon.
      Edit: the first part was dumb because I misread your comment

    • @bharat-dz9wi
      @bharat-dz9wi Рік тому

      @@ilikepancakes2368 yes, but the percentages matter no matter how much you say they don't. Like your parents not talking to you or society looking at you a certain way can take you off that path of self destruction. The west faces this exact problem of accept me who I am even if I slept with people in the past. For example if you are in a buffet and you're in line and everyone is eating for 10 dollars but suddenly when your turn comes the staff closes the lid and asks you to commit and invest in the business then only you'll get your meal will you do it ? That's exactly how mordern women operate. They go on lavish dates get ran through in their 20s then ask you to settle in their 30s and to commit. That's the problem. Why should I accept a women in her decline when she rejected me in her prime ? I rather have a traditional mother who can raise my children. Prostitutes are not even allowed near children for a reason.

  • @SnipSnip477
    @SnipSnip477 3 роки тому +2

    So many liberal keyboarding warriors here

  • @ndiaz1982
    @ndiaz1982 2 роки тому

    I guess I'm a conservative, but at the end of the day, Idc if it doesn't affect me

    • @godlike1361
      @godlike1361 Рік тому +1

      Nah, most people are moderates without them knowing. Taking stances in both ideologies.

  • @MrChali-po6rf
    @MrChali-po6rf 4 роки тому +1

    Like si bienes por tarea de social studies

  • @Divine_dialogues2
    @Divine_dialogues2 2 роки тому

    “I see” scared me 😂

  • @heygema
    @heygema Рік тому

    The common beliefs that we're breathing duh, *yeah I se the argument **voice lowered down***

  • @CUP1D0N
    @CUP1D0N 5 місяців тому

    Long live to libs though. They saved me from the single mindset and I learnt what’s nuance from them. Lovely, an ex cons.

  • @azfarsadat6201
    @azfarsadat6201 3 роки тому

    This is a great video

  • @SussyBacha
    @SussyBacha Рік тому

    Liberalism is metal AF

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr5179 7 місяців тому

    Yes I became a liberal after what they did to my KING ELVIS , they took away his freedom of Being Elvis.😅

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 2 роки тому

    it's a spectrum

  • @lordrayleigh8316
    @lordrayleigh8316 3 роки тому

    great content!

  • @thomasmedina525
    @thomasmedina525 3 роки тому +11

    Conservative is all about being in control not letting the people speak freely. Just because a person is liberal that doesn't mean they're not going to celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving, then again Christmas and Thanksgiving is your choice anyone's choice. Liberals about loving everyone whether you are different race or religion.

    • @IssyFishyy
      @IssyFishyy 3 роки тому +3

      Except that freedom isn't necessarily a good thing, if we base our laws and principles off freedom then by that logic people are allowed to murder because freedom right?

    • @thomasmedina525
      @thomasmedina525 3 роки тому +6

      @@IssyFishyy we can have freedom and still have laws in place. Having Freedom does it mean committing crimes. Smh... you commit a crime you lose your freedom, there you go simple as that.

    • @IssyFishyy
      @IssyFishyy 3 роки тому +2

      @@thomasmedina525 There you go, you laid it all out, therefore you cannot use freedom as the fundamental basis for your argument, which is what you did in your original comment.

    • @thomasmedina525
      @thomasmedina525 3 роки тому +3

      @@IssyFishyy just because this laws that doesn't mean you cannot have freedom. You can still have freedom with laws. Sorry to say but you don't make any sense.

    • @IssyFishyy
      @IssyFishyy 3 роки тому +4

      @@thomasmedina525 On the contrary, YOU don't make any sense, if i quote from your comment: "Conservative is all about being in control", the foundation of your argument is literally implying that freedom is necessary. There is nothing wrong with being in control.
      Funny thing is, you leftists are the ones who want to ban free speech and apparently us conservatives are the ones who don't let people speak freely?

  • @pipeyto7
    @pipeyto7 Рік тому

    This isn't really entirely true anymore

  • @miketempleton6789
    @miketempleton6789 Рік тому

    This is a beautifully incorrect definition.
    The words conservative and liberal are in reference to the amount of control that should be given to the government.
    Kinda like shampoo… “apply a liberal amount of shampoo” or “add a liberal amount of cheese”
    “Ratify a liberal number of new laws” “add a liberal amount of taxes” etc..

  • @mitchmiller6366
    @mitchmiller6366 3 роки тому +1

    Remake for 2020

  • @bigeyegreedy
    @bigeyegreedy 3 місяці тому

    💙

  • @gimiwanmemengwaa
    @gimiwanmemengwaa 11 місяців тому

    I think it means more with conservative, but I can’t agree with anti gay marriage, or just gay people, or like able ism and stuff that stuff needs to be normalized and not segregated

  • @jessiescholten9119
    @jessiescholten9119 Рік тому

    Damn his speech about libarism didn't age too well

  • @eliyabarzel9871
    @eliyabarzel9871 2 роки тому +1

    אני בעד אנרכיזם ובעד ליברליזם

  • @shaymicah4194
    @shaymicah4194 3 роки тому +4

    That was Funny. Did anyone else notice how the Liberal guy pointed to the conservative that Conservatives base alot of their ideology off FEAR! And then at the END..the conservative explained an issue with Liberals.. based off fear.😆

  • @Elliestandsforpeace
    @Elliestandsforpeace Рік тому +2

    I am definitely conservative. I support traditionalism and think that’s the best. But I have liberal friends too 💖

    • @anthonyymm511
      @anthonyymm511 Рік тому +5

      Traditionalism = Stagnation. It says “why do better, this is how things have always worked”. Silly.

    • @kaydenduffin3795
      @kaydenduffin3795 8 місяців тому

      @@anthonyymm511silly to you but guess what? That’s your opinion and that’s their opinion and your comment isn’t gonna change their mind.

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr5179 7 місяців тому

    😅 if it wasn't for liberals we would not have science . Doctors or Cars especially our PHONES 'S

  • @johnsamuel6096
    @johnsamuel6096 3 роки тому +12

    Conservatism sounds great on paper but is depressing to see it happen in real time

    • @Latif.Kakule
      @Latif.Kakule 3 роки тому

      Ikr

    • @ayb2337
      @ayb2337 3 роки тому +7

      @Desert Fox How so.. What I observe is liberalism destroyed half of Europe.

    • @ayb2337
      @ayb2337 3 роки тому +3

      @Desert Fox All the things you have said sound to me more like far right views and ideologies practiced in historical world . And yes I agree extremism is bad and also we don't have to go back in time. But don't you think a society should give a some amount of value to their traditions and national identities. And honestly I don't see many European countries dominated by conservative ideologies other than few such as Poland, Hungary. What I observe in modern Europe is societies with liberal ideas who doesn't really care much about their national identity as a group of people. In few decades traditional cultures and native ethnic groups will be outnumbered by outside cultures and ethnic groups. And the invading cultures and ethnic groups have everything you have explained above. In other words liberalism is letting conservative extremism to rise in Europe.

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 3 роки тому

      @@ayb2337 it's not just outside groups
      most younger people have no clue what the traditional cultures of of the country were so the older people that do eventually become the minority in the country and the young become the majority

    • @ayb2337
      @ayb2337 3 роки тому

      @@robinsss It's because most of young people have liberal ideas. And I honestly don't believe many young people understands whats really happening in the modern world. They always talk about diversity and accepting different kind of people. What I observe is a slow distruction of western social structure and a one ethnic group is taking an advantage of it. And these ethnic groups are extremly conservative. They want to preserve and spread their culture. Trees are good but invasive trees are bad. Extreme liberalism is like putting your weapons down in a battle field to stop the war and spread the peace. It's sounds great. And if the enemy also joins you, thats amazing. But what happens if the enemy will take it as an advantage and kill your entire army like dogs. It is very easy for a person to become stupid when a he/she tries to be too nice.

  • @bigjimfanning
    @bigjimfanning 2 роки тому +6

    Liberalism in a nutshell: Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.
    Liberals want to live the way they want to while telling others how they should live and behave.

    • @AbhijeetChouhanXD
      @AbhijeetChouhanXD 2 роки тому +2

      🤡 thats literally conservative morons

    • @vgmaster9
      @vgmaster9 2 роки тому +5

      Projection at its finest.

    • @mcredwolf925
      @mcredwolf925 2 роки тому +5

      You just described conservatism lmao

    • @roofkorean2067
      @roofkorean2067 2 роки тому

      @MC Redwolf explain

    • @mcredwolf925
      @mcredwolf925 2 роки тому +1

      @@roofkorean2067 conservatives in general want us all to be White, Heterosexual, Male, and conforming. Conservatives are the “me” people at their finest because they want everyone to be and think the same as them. Well guess what, that ain’t gonna happen

  • @BiiKay675
    @BiiKay675 Рік тому

    Now I'm pretty much convinced that I'm conservative.

  • @thiagosmartpc1395
    @thiagosmartpc1395 3 роки тому +1

    The problem with gay marriages is that when two man marries they just leave two women single, but, when TWO women marries, they leave at least TWENTY men single. 😕😫😢

  • @mr.anti-flashsentryonce-ler
    @mr.anti-flashsentryonce-ler 10 місяців тому

    to be honest I want to be stuck in the middle, some traditions should be valued as well as changes being slow and steady but we should respect the individuals and change anything that's holding us back
    I want to support communities but not exactly families nor bearucrats either, and if we have to push either sides for a better future or for a better balance

  • @shaymicah4194
    @shaymicah4194 3 роки тому +5

    The end part of the conservatives last point giving a warning of what could come to pass if we let liberals have free reign is conservatives fears. Conservatives are known to predicate much of their reasoning by fear. So its funny how the video ended that way. Lol.

    • @Spider58x
      @Spider58x 3 роки тому +4

      The end of the video was correct, if everyone is an individual then logically there can't exist a common culture in which people can be united around then society collapse. This is the logical conclusion of individualism/liberalism. Dismissing this as just a "fear" of conservatives is just being disenginous.

    • @juanpablonunez2828
      @juanpablonunez2828 2 роки тому

      @@Spider58x Having freedom doesn’t mean all interest are different. Liberals can choose to surround themselves with other liberals that may stronger family values, or ties to the faith. The liberals mean no enforcement but that’s it’s not necessary lack of unity. Liberals promote voluntary unions rather than forced unions.

    • @masticloxpoker1006
      @masticloxpoker1006 Рік тому +1

      @@Spider58x That just does not follow logicly, i am sorry, you just projecting your fear.

    • @anthonyymm511
      @anthonyymm511 Рік тому

      @@Spider58x How does not having a common culture mean a country collapses? What exactly goes wrong when you have a society of individuals?

    • @hithere748
      @hithere748 Рік тому

      The last part of the video is proving to be right.

  • @sirdharpusa1979
    @sirdharpusa1979 2 роки тому +1

    F**K youtube. This is the kind of videos that I would really like to see likes to dislike ratio.

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  2 роки тому +2

      As of right now it is 93.3% likes vs dislikes

    • @TorontoPopulistConservative
      @TorontoPopulistConservative 2 роки тому

      @@PhilosophyVibe Because of Liberals, only you can really know that to be a verifiable fact, lol.