I think that it's just an attempt to overly simplify where people stand politically. One that would be hard to categorise I believe is Theodore Roosevelt. The History Channel did a documentary about all the Presidents up to George W Bush and they summed up TR thus, "(...) The Republicans' worst nightmare had come to pass, Theodore Roosevelt was no longer just a heartbeat from the presidency, he was the president. TR as he liked to be called, was a complicated man, a mass of contradictions, and he could not be bullied. He was a Conservative, yet he fought for reforms. He was a hunter, who started the conservation movement. A hawk on war, who won Nobel Peace Prize. Perhaps the only thing that can be easily understood about him is that he was an original." Much like how people rank presidents, I feel that there's a desire to group politicians into one of two boxes
Nah. Both definitions are are necessary to separate political ideas. The reason that they are devisive is because people have made it devisive. We just need to accept that people have different opinions and that's fine. Though I believe we should make the compass more complex to separate the more complex factions of both sides.
@@MrChinesename It is VERY hard to find unbiased information on the topics I am going to talk about, but basically during the "pandemic" the attack of the institution and (elites organization) on basic rights (in Canada) under the excuse of a crisis, and the discrimination of those who refused to comply with the new totalitarian anti-constitutional, unethical and irrational guidelines has been something that a lot of people went along with driven by fear, mass induced psychosis, paranoia or just following the representation of authority figure. something along those lines might be a good example, their was also that similar thing that followed a similar path of event called ALL HUMAN HISTORY, EVERY TYRANNY, AND THAT THING THAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY. but don't worry as they all said "That would never happen HERE"
when those on the left get caught doing "bad things" they're held accountable. when people on the right do "bad things" its always someone else's fault.
This whole political spectrum is nothing but a hindrance as it makes non mutually exclusive ideas mutually exclusive. It puts limits like "you can't do that because you're this" and then pretends it isn't ridiculous.
@@thevillager8339 I figure if you get called a lunatic liberal by those on the right or a crackpot conservative by those on the left, you e found the right spot.
@@jacobalvord3480I disagree with taking this as a matter of principle. If you consider compromise between two positions to always be superior, then when someone wants to do something horrible to everyone, this logic locks you into saying ‘the smart move would be to do something horrible to half of people, or to do something half horrible to everyone.’
@@smoothtalkwith2014 nah. You have to be smart enough to know the difference. Compromise is a good thing. Blindly doing things because it's the center of two opinions is a fallacy.
Yea, saw a video from a man who lives in Sweden but was from Yemen. People called him left wing in his home country but when he moved to a new country people call him alt right.
Mr. Beat i feel conflicted if you check out his stuff. Let’s just say it is place to not to be enlightened but to question whether having a human mind was a mistake or not.
The problem is politics in the United States has moved so far right. To illustrate, Democrats are not moderate republicans and Republicans are so far right. To be a centrist right now it’s to be a Republican. I consider myself far Left, and feel that leftist should move the political spectrum back to the Left so it can balance out. It’s gotten so crazy that Bernie is basically considered a centrist in Europe.
I'm just 10 years younger and here for the same reason. Politics is very confusing, especially when just about everybody lies through their teeth - on replay.
Just know most people will agree on most topics. In fact, for many people they only truly care about a handful of issues if not one issue altogether. For example, some people are only concerned about abortion, the economy, healthcare or immigration.
This is funny and at the same time informative. I've learnt quiet a lot and being able to go with the knowledge I was seeking. Thanks for your great effort.
I'm getting pretty worn out on the whole left-wing right-wing and red state-blue state this that or the other. I think Life's a lot more complex than red blue left and right
That’s why being independent isn’t as bad as people that are religiously left or right say it is. You get to make your own choices and understand the nuisances of politics.
Me too!! I put on my yellow batman shirt today after not wearing it for 3 months. And watch this guy for the first time ever... and he calls out my shirt??? Yeah I am all of a sudden drawn to watch every one of your videos my guy... good move lol
I can’t wait for the political compass that is a crazy geometrical shape that is impossible to understand and is accepted as the best test! Great job and can’t wait for next Friday!
@@meredithwhite272 Nah, the true political test has 4 axis. 1 axis makes a line, 2 axis makes a square, 3 axis makes a cube, and a 4 axis makes a tesseract. Which can't be visualized properely
8:16 The plural of "axe" (pronounced like 'AKS') is "axes" (pronounced like 'AK-siz'). The plural of "axis" (pronounced like 'AK-sis') is "axes" (pronounced like 'AK-seez'). Both plurals are _spelled_ the same, but they are pronounced differently, specifically in the second syllable.
This was informative, interesting, and entertaining. You're a great teacher! Thank you (and Mr. Barris) for taking the time to gather and create this presentation!
unfortunately the first-past-the-post election system naturally favors two parties with fairly nebulous coalition ideologies in any given election (they don’t have to be the same two nationwide) because a second candidate on any given side of any given issue splits that side’s voters and essentially hands the election to the other side. We need electoral reform for a preferential voting system, like Australia’s Instant-Runoff system or New Zealand’s Single-Transferrable Vote system so people can vote their conscience without hamstringing themselves.
Thank you for having me over Mr. Beat! It's a great video and I'm glad you gave me the chance to take part in it. Merde! P.S: My voice is so messed up because I'm currently in Colorado and I'm not handling the dryness very well.
This is Barris! - French History your content looks like it might be interesting but I can’t get past the cringe-y Terrance and Phillip animation. I kept fearing fart jokes as I watched...
Royalists are the conservatives in Britain. Conservatives in the US want to conserve what the founding fathers put in place when they formed the country. Conservatives in Britain are much different than Conservatives in the United States.
Me sat in the U.K. *GOD SAVE THE QUEEN* also at this point, I’m in favour of the queen taking a shot at governance again, she certainly couldn’t be worse than the majority of our and the world’s current politicians.
@@ajl8975 Don't spit childish idiocy. I'm happy United Ireland, Independent Scotland, and hopefully England Republic will be the near future. I wish it can be sooner so we can stop naming everything after that old hag. 🙄
@@Muusoc999 Yeah most Americans would be left wing back then. The most radically changing part of politics is social issues like progressivism, much different now than it was in the 1960's. Economic, Interventionists have changed little or none at all
Jack R ‽‽ Most of the secularists I know consider themselves right wing, ie in favor of limited government, minimum taxation, maximum individual liberty. I guess Mr. Beat is correct, the labels aren’t very useful.
@@iammrbeat The worst part is that there isn't 'another side.' People have opinions and maybe they clash. But people generally aren't interested in other people, thus they haven't spent anytime creating ideas deliberately oppose your ideas. You thinking that people are your opponents is just you being arrogant and not realizing nobody cares about what you say
The differences between the US and Europe are interesting. First, the colors are swapped in Europe: red is left, blue is right. And "liberal" is a position on the conservative side that wants a small government with not too may rules. That's just the opposite of liberals in the US.
Yes, get rid of the labels. I think they just create divisiveness, especially when, as you point out, people are in actuality more in the middle somewhere and fluid in their positions.
@@izparry2646 I disagree, I think we need the government to do certain things for society to function. The real question is what should governments do, and how do you structure that. I personally think the government should do a lot of things they don’t now, I would also like the government to stop doing certain things it does currently. There’s a complex series of factors that determines what will work out and what won’t and it always changes, we need our government to be more responsive to the material conditions here at home. I would like our country be ran by the people in their best interests, if we can give regular people more power in the system, things would improve.
I figured out the problem with this country. Well, okay, so Thomas Sowell's explanation of the lack of common decency is a part of it, but... There's another facet. We have a woefully inadequate education system that leaves a void in people's minds. That void is filled by social media and MSM, who are controlled by trillions of dollars of "special interests". That is where all this divide and conquer comes from. It starts in childhood. Inadequate schooling = brainwashed population. We need to rebuild education from scratch; make it more comprehensive and emphasize individuality and critical thinking. We're not going to beat the CCP in the hivemind department. They have 1.4 billion people. We have 340 million.
I can't stand with either because I am always changing my mind due to the new information I learned. I'll stand with whoever has a better idea of solving problems. For now, I am just going to worry about myself because I can't trust no one. I can't trust big government or corporations. Every group has their own special interests. #worryaboutyourself
well, government and corporations are in bed with each other. It allows companies using its wealth to manipulate the government into giving it more power through tax breaks and regulations. It's literally crony capitalism
@@oogabooga7886 Capitalism is the dominant form of competitive politics, socialism the dominant form of collaborative. Alternatives exist for each, syndicalism for socialism for instance.
The Left-Right dichotomy is suboptimal, but somehow we can't seem to get rid of it.... Any alternatives are just too confusing as pointed out. Excellent explanations and I had no idea it stems back to the French Revolution. Great to see Barris here!
Good video, Sir. I call myself an Independent and I'm registered as an Independent to vote. I was raised as a conservative and was a registered Republican for most of my life. I'm 61, now. I read a lot and learned that I was trapped in a political bubble and decided to register as an Independent about 5 years ago. I've forced myself to look at things from the other guys point of view and started seeing my views on things change. I'm educating myself on a broader political and social spectrum. Watching your video and another UA-camr's political educational video from K.B. has helped (IS helping) me grow. I shock myself nowadays because I see myself becoming more Socialist. Yeah, Socialist! With my upbringing, I never thought that this would happen, NEVER! I still have some conservative views, though. I don't like the term "Centrist" because, as you sort of said here, most of us are all over the the place on the spectrum. As I continue to learn about other topics contained in this subject, my views changes, some. Some of my views have changed widely. My long-time conservative friends say that I'm a radical Liberal now. I just laugh and reply that I'm an 'independent thinker' and I refuse to allow myself to be trapped in any political bubble. Thank you, Mr. Beat, for posting this good video on the subject. Side note: I really like what you're done on the solar front. All the best to you and Mrs. Beat!
Well, if you see yourself becoming socialist, I recommend you check out Contrapoints or PhilisophyTube. 2 very smart left-wing anti-capitalist channels that really seem friendly!
Rocco Anders uhhh they are most definetly not "very smart" maybe not the worst breadtube has to offer, but to me they often come across as slightly more verbose twitter-tier "culture critics" TLP does their whole anti-capitalist thing much better than them imo
There is no such a thing as "the left" and "the right". Germany has 3 left and 2 (or 3) right-leaning parties. There are many ideas on both sides. And sometimes lables don't mean anything. Ludwig Erhard was a German Christian Democrat but I'm sure his "Social Market Economy" would be called Socialist by many in the U.S..
That's because Americans generally don't understand that most democracies have three major ideologies. American liberalism has mostly been split in two, with the economic aspects of liberalism having been (mostly) adopted by the Republicans and the social aspects (mostly) adopted by the Democrats. Without a two dimensional chart you really can't describe someone's positions, since everyone is a little liberal, a little socialist and a little conservative. It really is just about how much you stand with each. With one dimension you could say "ideal government size" and suddenly socialists and conservatives are on the same side opposite liberals. If the axis is about tax rates the results change, etc.
@@Svartasvanen18 I think there are more. I think in Europe there are 6 big ideologies. Democratic socialism, social democracy, liberalism, christian democracy and nationalism/patriotism. In Germany a party of every one of these ideologies is in parliament. In the EU parliament all of them (exept the nationalists) have a united faction.
RealTalkChannel - RTC I kind of wished Nobody would run under labels, obviously everybody would fit into a specific category but I do want people to vote based on the policies. Some people just go left or right which honestly I agree with if you are against left-wing policies why would you ever vote for them and if you are against the right wing policy is why ever vote for them? But some people may benefit from it, not saying that this is the conservative or the leftist. All I can say is abortion is evil.
What I "love" is that a lot of what makes Democrat and Republican policy wise, (bigger/smaller government, less/more military, higher/lower taxes, social/individual, flexible/non-flexible constitution, etc. respectively) are far from the minds of modern Democrat and Republican and now you're labeled one side mostly depending on your social political view instead everything together. (Economics, foreign policy, military decisions, AND social political views, etc.) Also, it doesn't matter what side, pretty much every representative in politics sucks and are only looking out for their own self interests.
Mr Beat! I've been a big fan and subscriber for about 3 years now. Production quality is booming. I'm so glad to see you're putting so much effort into the channel! Just a side note, my favorite videos have been comparatives, especially the Rwanda Burundi one. I'd love to see more country comparisons. Thanks for all the videos!
I like the 8 axes test mostly because it is still reasonably small (I've seen one with almost 100) and from it, you can guess someone's position pretty accurately on most topics. I think those are the two defining features of a good theory, succinct and predictive.
@@KarlSnarks There's a better one: Left/Right Social/Economic/Political. Left: Collectivist, Central Planning, Statist Right: Individualist, Free Market, Anarchist/Minarchist Notice how the 3 pillars of each side build upon each other and are historically accurate. For example: Mussolini, Stalin, Mao and Hitler were all socialists and the model reflects that, as they were all squarely on the Left. (the whole "nazis/fascists are far right" is a fabrication of leftist media halfway trough the 30s to wash their hands of the whole affair in europe and paraphrase Mussolini by saying "that wasn't real socialism"). Leftists today are the exact same as they were a century ago.
@@ismaelsantos5378 Completely incorrect, fascism was mostly supported by the middle and upper-class, as they where the first to get rid of socialists and communists and cracked down on unions. Its economics can at times be more centralized or market based but always depends on what benefits power. Hitler privatized large parts of nationalized sectors, and Pinochet was a huge supporter of the same type of capitalism as Reagan. Fascists did and do often use vaguely leftist rethoric but without class analysis, because it sells well, especially back in 1930's Europe. Anarchism has always been a far-left ideology as it fights against all hierarchy including both the state and capitalism. They either support non-capitalist markets (markets without private property and owner-worker relationships) or a form of decentralized direct-democratic communism and accept pluralism in those ideas as well. Look at Makhnovchina, Revolutionary Catalonia and Aragon, or the ideas of Kropotkin, Proudhon, or Mallatesta. Anarchism developed in worker movement ffs. And there are also other forms of libertarian socialism, like Neo-Zapatismo practiced by the Zapatistas, or Democratic Confederalism in Rojava. Since the mid-20th century there are people who call themselves "anarcho-capitalists", but the only thing they have in common with anarchist is being against the state (in theory), and their ideas don't come from anarchist philosophy but classic liberalism and right-libertarianism.
@@KarlSnarks Several points to make here. 1- Pinochet was not a fascist. He was authoritarian, but he was no socialist. 2- Mussolini and his supporters were hardlines socialists who did not want to be asociated with other socialists because they saw them as "not real socialists". 3- The "middle and upper class" supporting fascism/socialism is nothing strange, as it is narcisistic half-baked "intellectuals" the ones most likely to support socialist ideals. Look at the Left today or Mao's red guards, who were mostly students of middle and upper class. 4- Socialists cracking down on unions or other socialists is also a feature, as the cult is sustained trough pure orthodoxy and thus any dissent, no matter how small, is to be purged. 5- Fascists, like all socialists, do inject class struggle in their rethoric, but they put more emphasis on nationalism. They are, after all, nationalistic socialists rather than internationalists like the communists are. This is not to be confused with the more ethnic-centric National Socialism, of which Mussolini was not very fond of but tolerated it because it was convenient to keep the alliance with Hitler. 6- Anarchism is not something the Left supports. They only use the label, as with everything else, to cover up their true nature. A modern example is Antifa, which paints itself as "anarchists" but they are actually hardline fascists just like the Blackshirts and the Brownshirts were (in fact Antifa was the communist equivalent to those militant groups). The Left only identifies as "anarchist" when they do not have full control of the state, once they have a majority you start seeing the overbearing teachings of Gentile, Mussolini and the likes become very obvious. The Twitter fiasco that has been revealed is a good example: Leftists using corporate and state power to supress dissent and deceive the population. 7- You cannot have a Market without Private property, as Trade is the exchange of private property between mutually consenting parties. Perhaps you should learn what words mean before talking out of your ass. 8- In marxian doctrine "Democracy" is impossible outside of Communism, so whenever Leftists say "democratic socialism" what they really mean is "Communism". I spent years going trough the unbearable slog of reading the works of the Spawn of Hegel and word games do not fool me, nor will I allow lies to be kept up. 9- "Libertarian Socialism" is an oxymoron, much like "Market without private property". Libertarianism is about individual freedom while Socialism is collectivist slavery. Polar opposites. 10- Anarchism has always been a feature of the Right. But in practice Rightwingers go for Minarchism, a less idealized and more pragmatic manifestation of the anarchist ideal. Anarchy means No State. Socialism cannot be anarchist as it is Statist by design, going all the way back to Hegel when he posed that The State is the manifestation of the Divine. Communism is merely Hegel trough the lens of Marx, while Fascism is Hegel trough the lens of Mussolini&Gentile. Perhaps you should stop repeating doctrine and using lingüistic sleights of hand and have an honest conversation for a change. I know it's hard (or impossible, for the most ardent defenders of that blight called Socialism) but it's time to lift the veil of deception and see reality for what it is. Speaking of seeing reality for what it is. A little test: Define the word "Woman" without using any variation of "a woman is someone who identifies as a woman" or "a woman is someone who isn't a man". (that is, provide a definition that isn't based on social constructivist nonsense nor is a circular definition). Leftist Cultists are unable to give a proper definition and go trough mental gymnastics and more lingüistic games and sleights of hand when asked. Let's see what are you.
I do not see much difference between a solviet socialist that killed millions and a national socialist that killed millions. How are they opposites when they were both socialist dictators? Maybe we should consider those who want freedom from gov't control ( rightwing) and those who want the gov't to control every part off the country (leftwing).
There are others problems that I don't see in the video 1.Volatility of the meaning:if you ask Europeans where is liberalism on the chart they will say on the right but if you ask Americans they will say on the left 2.You ca be a left winger in Saudi Arabia and a die hard right winger in USA at the same tine
@@kalanaherath3076 Something that's pogressive in Saudi Arabia like women rights to vote it's not pogressive at all in US whereas something pogressive in US can be hard to understand for a ''pogressive'' Saudi mindset.That's why someone can identifies as pogressive in Saudi Arabia can also identify as conservative in US.
@@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 Ah, so you mean in Saudi Arabia, the oberton window is so much to the Right, that a leftie there would qualify as a Right winger in the US
I always thought cultural values, economic values and opinions on state control were the most important because those are the issues most political debates use as general talking points.
There is a clear pattern of answers that reinforce each other. That's what the political spectrum was about in the first place. Anarcho-communism is, unequivocally, the most pro-freedom ideology possible. (And yes, it is possible. It has been done before and is happening right now in parts of the world.) On the other hand, Stalinism fails to have major freedoms despite being called left-wing. Right-libertarians claim to be pro-freedom on account of being "libertarian" yet they are in favor of corporations holding more power over people, making people less free. The idea that "left" and "right" are muddied can only be maintained when you don't mention the existence of left-libertarians like anarcho-communists, something that is almost always done when discussing this topic and was done by Mr. Beat in this video.
@@jkcrawl Revolutionary Catalonia was probably the largest one. If you want a more recent example, while they don't use the exact term, the Zapatistas organize along the same principles as anarcho-communism.
So basically both sides are two opposite cults fighting one another. Yeah iv been saying that. All the while our country decays and the real issues ignored.
This was really cool. A good presentation with just the right amount of silly-to-smart "factor". Unbiased and covering things both modern and historically. Thank you for your video.
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What was cool about it? Mr. Beast puts up a bunch of charts, with no explaination for interpretation. What exactly did you learn? What does Left wing-Right wing mean? The charts simply make it more clear that we all are blended INDIVIDUALLY, For instance; Most humans are anti-abortion. Some of those anti-abortion folks don't feel they have a RIGHT to force their OPINION on others. Some folks don't feel life is sacred. Some folks don't believe IN sacred. There are other folks that are out right Atheists or agnostics. Some of those folks DO believe life is sacred, but recognize that GOD created a vicious earth, where everything feeds on everything else. On the other hand, some of those Anti-abortion folks feel they DO have the Right to force their beliefs on others. Some of these folks believe they should force destitute women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term...BUT, once the child is DELIVERED it gets to live a life of poverty, with NO help from the society that forced the pregnancy to term . Never forget, that same society CHOOSES who will be rich and who will be poor. This statement is simplistic in print, but deeply complicated in practice. Understand one simple concept...It is about class! Right is what we moderns call the Military Industrial Complex. It's a new term historically, but existed in practice in the Roman Empire, China, Egypt. Right Wing is the Rulers and support groups; police, military, banks, corporations, media and government. Left Wing is the people, the slaves. In the US, there is virtually no Left Wing media. Even Public radio, which is extremely Center based, is not a Left media. b
Unless you're talking about the plural of "axe" as in the choppy choppy tree cutter things, in which case it's "axes" pronounced exactly how it is written
Excellent food for thought! Thanks for this video Mr. Beat! I think most Americans have more in common than not. It seems only a handful of ideas separate us.
I personally like the dichotomy of 'selectorate theory' where a position of power or decision-making is based on how much support is needed to enact that power; broad or narrow support, which is respectively about aligning interest with more people or less people. The more people you need, the more your policy needs to satisfy more universal needs; the less people you need, then you need only satisfy those few people and the more you can ignore the rest.
@@BioDevil-b7v Kyle is my number 1 commentator right now with Crystal Ball right behind him. It used to be Cenk but he leaned a little too hard into Russiagate
@@timothybrown6565 bruh, he caused the death of hundreds of thousands of people by ignoring aids, made unjust gun control, was hyper authoritarian, and created the fallacy of trickle down economics. He's shitty.
Holy crap, when I typed my political related inquiry into Google I had no idea they would give me Mr. Beats my favorite history teacher. Yes, I will watch your video of course
The right-left spectrum *is* relative to the country, period of time and even person - that is why its so good. There is no other term that describes each half of any country's political spectrum. Liberal-conservative misses out that liberalism is considered conservative in many countries, and conservatism can often be considered centrist. Socialist-capitalist misses out that some countries are various degrees of socialist to begin with, and also lacks any of the other values place on the left-right spectrum. Yes, not everyone fits perfectly on the right or left - but that is why its a "spectrum".
Liberalism is not Conservativism anywhere. They're unrelated right wing ideologies. Saying that the opposite of Conservativism is Liberalism is like saying that the opposite of black is dark blue.
The idea that the "right" wants less gov spending is extremely outdated. That may have been more true in the 1970's or earlier, but at least since Reagan the facts don't match the rhetoric:
@@realspartan5206 its decided whether you're based or cringe by asking one question: every pokemon vs. 1 billion lions. If you pick lions, you're radical cringe.
Thank you for the video. I agree that using these right or left terms are too broad in scope, that’s why when people ask me where I stand I usually say that I’m conservative because I think it’s more specific.
Check out What IS Politics? on UA-cam -- it's the most interesting and informative thing I've ever watched on this site about politics. There's even a segment on left and right politics, which is also very funny. The whole channel can be humorous, but is incredibly well researched. Can't recommend it enough!
A major problem with the political axes is that eventually, when add too many, it results in some positions in one axis being implied to be directly connected to another axis even though they aren't and thus misrepresents them. And if you just simplify it by getting rid of some of the axes, then it becomes inaccurate and difficult for people taking it because it does not take into account many of the nuances people have in their political beliefs. 9Axes and 8Values are great political tests since they separate the axes into different measurements and tell you how much you swing in each axis. They even tell you which political ideologies you most closely identify with.
Honestly, i think the new political spectrum paradigm is whether you are a Conspiracy Theorist (aka Truther) or a Propaganda Believer. For example, the same people that hate Trump were the first people to participate in Trump's pride and joy, Operation Warp Speed. They trusted Trump with their life participating in a medical experiment. We have the media to thank for tricking people into hating Trump yet tricking people into trusting Trump with regard to genetic experimentation.
I think an important thing that didn't get mentioned is, there is a big difference between where peoples' particular beliefs place them on the spectrum, and that most people have some liberal and some conservative views, AND where a particular form of govt or particular economic system lays on the same spectrum.
I think of it this way: Hierarchical versus non-hierarchical control of… 1.) Resources 2.) Education / News 3.) Decision-Making Process Plus a spectrum of charismatic versus violent forms of control.
Both sides have a list of issues that the electorate can't embrace. The voter gets abused either way. We always have to choose between bad or worse. They both do the bidding of their own special interest groups, that may not represent us. I'm fed up with both parties.
I’ve always tried to be an adaptivist. Someone who doesn’t lean to the right or left. Top or bottom. Not even the center. I adapt and adjust. Changing and lying on political agenda.
I agree, ideologies are dangerous. I think the 20th century proves this. However, I do feel what the U.S. needs at the moment (assuming you’re American) is a shift to the left, to be more in line with the social democracies of europe
@@nathanhernandez7173 nah… (in my opinion) European countries don’t have strong constitutions And if they did, it wouldn’t involve having the right to own military grade weaponry. Also… they leech off the US in someway or another.
I mean... By all means reject political parties and candidates but the labels of right & left themselves mean something concrete in terms of describing your beliefs.
That's the reason why the wing spectrum exists, you don't follow a political party but have a personal opinion on these topics. You can't be adaptive on the spectrum, gotta see where you fit
"You... with the yellow shirt." Darn, I'm actually wearing a yellow shirt. Personally, I love 8values and ISideWIth.com. Though, neither are perfect of course. Political charts, in my view, are like maps. Maps are supposed to give you a good representation of the Earth, but can never be perfectly accurate since the Earth is a sphere-like shape. Similarly, political charts may be able to give you a good representation of your political viewpoint, but they can never be perfectly represent what you believe. When I say "Left-Wing" and "Right-Wing," I usually refer to the definitions which are actually pretty succinctly given by Wikipedia, (opposition to hierarchy and upkeep of social hierarchy respectively), but I can totally see how this is reductive. I think that the way to engage with politics is not to talk solely about ideology, but to put as much if not more emphasis on the actual ideas you hold. Great vid and nice beard!
jack I don’t see how they are contradictory. Sure, socialism can be seen as collectivist in terms of economics, but you can still have a socialist society that protects individual rights such as free speech, religion, gun ownership, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc.
Dark Ninja Noam Chomsky is a social libertarian also it’s the same as a left libertarian which is what I am but in America libertarians are strictly knows as right wing even tho it’s not true so I just go by a free democratic socialist instead
@@samstuff8554Libertarians are known as right wing in the US because the left here is so authoritarian. I can’t think of a single politician on the left who supports free speech or the 2nd amendment.
When I took the compass I got left-libertarian but I still considered myself as centric and somewhat a bit conservative. Man this is def lots of questioning
Most sources are left leaning (quite biased) so therea no surprise. But that's the reason why we have a spectrum. Best if you find it yourself instead of using a quiz. These sources are left wing breeding grounds, but if you're right wing that's still respectable -Personal leftist.
@insertnamehere6067 You are either a useful idiot or a malevolent wretch. There's no "anarcho communism". Communism is totalitarian by design and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. It goes all the way back to Hegel.
Is it time to get rid of the terms "left wing" and "right wing?"
I think that it's just an attempt to overly simplify where people stand politically. One that would be hard to categorise I believe is Theodore Roosevelt. The History Channel did a documentary about all the Presidents up to George W Bush and they summed up TR thus, "(...) The Republicans' worst nightmare had come to pass, Theodore Roosevelt was no longer just a heartbeat from the presidency, he was the president. TR as he liked to be called, was a complicated man, a mass of contradictions, and he could not be bullied. He was a Conservative, yet he fought for reforms. He was a hunter, who started the conservation movement. A hawk on war, who won Nobel Peace Prize. Perhaps the only thing that can be easily understood about him is that he was an original."
Much like how people rank presidents, I feel that there's a desire to group politicians into one of two boxes
Nah. Both definitions are are necessary to separate political ideas. The reason that they are devisive is because people have made it devisive. We just need to accept that people have different opinions and that's fine.
Though I believe we should make the compass more complex to separate the more complex factions of both sides.
How else would i call Hitler a leftist , which socialist are , shame on human history to want to hide that FACT.
It was time in 1849, when the conference of Vienna ended, indepth analyses is hindered by these terms but people are not that patient.
It's definitely been way overdue for an overhaul indeed.
Remember: No matter which "side" you're on when the people representing your side do bad things, you still need to stand up against them.
@ㅤㅤQuandale Bongulius Ringle Rangleㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ Your right being an asshole is also an option...
Bad things like what?
@@MrChinesename It is VERY hard to find unbiased information on the topics I am going to talk about, but basically during the "pandemic" the attack of the institution and (elites organization) on basic rights (in Canada) under the excuse of a crisis, and the discrimination of those who refused to comply with the new totalitarian anti-constitutional, unethical and irrational guidelines has been something that a lot of people went along with driven by fear, mass induced psychosis, paranoia or just following the representation of authority figure. something along those lines might be a good example, their was also that similar thing that followed a similar path of event called ALL HUMAN HISTORY, EVERY TYRANNY, AND THAT THING THAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY. but don't worry as they all said "That would never happen HERE"
@@MrChinesename Also on an unrelated topic I don't think being gay is a personality treat. just like I don't think being heterosexual is.
when those on the left get caught doing "bad things" they're held accountable. when people on the right do "bad things" its always someone else's fault.
The x axis should be chocolate to vanilla preference while the y axis should be accoustic music to electronic music.
Now this is a spectrum I can get behind
I’m pretty center
Than i would be an authoritarian communist
Lol
Yet again I am a centrist.
*left wing* : nope
*right wing* : nah
*chicken wing* : yessir
Something we can all unite around.
I believe that's a Modest Mouse lyric.
Lukas Wegrzyn I just wanna grill for god’s sake
Dirty pathetic little centrist, I respect you
"Just gimme gimme gimme gimme - try chicken!" (c)
This whole political spectrum is nothing but a hindrance as it makes non mutually exclusive ideas mutually exclusive. It puts limits like "you can't do that because you're this" and then pretends it isn't ridiculous.
@@thevillager8339 I figure if you get called a lunatic liberal by those on the right or a crackpot conservative by those on the left, you e found the right spot.
@@thevillager8339 political compass, while not perfect, is much better at what you're bringing up
@@jacobalvord3480I disagree with taking this as a matter of principle. If you consider compromise between two positions to always be superior, then when someone wants to do something horrible to everyone, this logic locks you into saying ‘the smart move would be to do something horrible to half of people, or to do something half horrible to everyone.’
@@smoothtalkwith2014 nah. You have to be smart enough to know the difference. Compromise is a good thing. Blindly doing things because it's the center of two opinions is a fallacy.
@@jacobalvord3480Sometimes compromise is the best way, sometimes it’s not. Being smart enough to know the difference is the point
The political spectrum changes drasticcly between countries
Absolutely, you can call to every French or German centrist citizen a Comunist berserker in the USA.
Yea, saw a video from a man who lives in Sweden but was from Yemen. People called him left wing in his home country but when he moved to a new country people call him alt right.
@@zurita1642 Here in Spain, center-right folks are monarchists and center-left folks are often anti-capitalist
That's definitely a point I should have brought up in the video!
A lot of American democrats are kind of conservative by european standards
Not to sound controversial but I’m actually for the buffalo wing 😬
shut up. Bufftard
Gtfo everyone knows cthulu wing is better than buffalo wing.
I'll sign this petition
Chicken wing
Screw you, I’m on the airplane wing
Someone pls call jreg to deal with this centrist who doesn't understand the 100-dimensions political model
lol I didn't know about Jreg, but I shall definitely check his stuff out
@@iammrbeat I'd kill for you two to collab
Mr. Beat i feel conflicted if you check out his stuff. Let’s just say it is place to not to be enlightened but to question whether having a human mind was a mistake or not.
Imagine not being a post anarcho primitivo monarchic nazbol with Chinese and Nordic characteristics
The problem is politics in the United States has moved so far right. To illustrate, Democrats are not moderate republicans and Republicans are so far right. To be a centrist right now it’s to be a Republican. I consider myself far Left, and feel that leftist should move the political spectrum back to the Left so it can balance out. It’s gotten so crazy that Bernie is basically considered a centrist in Europe.
Awesome Mr. Beat. I’m 67 years old and I still am not sure what the definition is and that’s why I’m here . Thank you
Neve to learn to late. Respect sir.
I'm just 10 years younger and here for the same reason. Politics is very confusing, especially when just about everybody lies through their teeth - on replay.
Yes, I too was ignorant of the differences were (exactly) between left and right. Fascinating and dangerous terminology.
Just know most people will agree on most topics. In fact, for many people they only truly care about a handful of issues if not one issue altogether. For example, some people are only concerned about abortion, the economy, healthcare or immigration.
@@omarra6781 this.
I prefer to play centre forward but I can sometimes score goals from the right wing
I usually play left outside back sun times I switch to the right side or play midfield
I'm left footed so I'm always left forward or left defense
is your pfp the Flag for the 'St. Patrick's Battalion'?
@@anopirsten7565 Its the old Irish flag before we changed to the tricolour. St Patrick's Battalion would have been based off it.
@@corcaighogormghus4618 ah, thanks for the info
Democratic party: nope
Republican party: nah
Mario Party: *definitely*
No doubt about that
@Faris M reinterpreted*
@Faris M stolen reply
@Faris M But overall, who cares?
Democrats are actually center-right while GOP is far-right to the world.
See, this is just an example of why the world needs more charts.
PS - Beard's looking good.
You inspired me, what can I say? :D
It looks better now. I sent him to get his hair cut and beard shaved.
@@shannonbeat further proves your wife always knows the best way for you to look haha
josher1129 He sometimes gets past me! 😂
@@iammrbeat You should grow a beard
This is funny and at the same time informative. I've learnt quiet a lot and being able to go with the knowledge I was seeking. Thanks for your great effort.
Tell me. What did you learn?
@@JosephMcKeown-s3yWatch the video?
I'm getting pretty worn out on the whole left-wing right-wing and red state-blue state this that or the other. I think Life's a lot more complex than red blue left and right
You have the same last name as me, and the same name as a serial killer, I don’t know why I am telling you this but now you know
Robert Hansen thats why there is the political compass
That’s why being independent isn’t as bad as people that are religiously left or right say it is. You get to make your own choices and understand the nuisances of politics.
❤️
I agree.
Yep and how people judge so quickly without letting you speak, probably 90-95% are a mix...
Ok I'm wearing a yellow top and I COMPLETELY FREAKED OUT when he said: " THAT'S RIGHT YOU... WITH THE YELLOW SHIRT."
lmao
Me too!! I put on my yellow batman shirt today after not wearing it for 3 months. And watch this guy for the first time ever... and he calls out my shirt??? Yeah I am all of a sudden drawn to watch every one of your videos my guy... good move lol
MEE TOO MANN
What's a shirt? #StalinDidNothingWrong
ME TOO😭
I can’t wait for the political compass that is a crazy geometrical shape that is impossible to understand and is accepted as the best test! Great job and can’t wait for next Friday!
And yet is so complicated that no one pays attention to it! And thank you. :D
political dodecahedron?
Great, one more thing that will be gerrymandered.
@@meredithwhite272 Nah, the true political test has 4 axis. 1 axis makes a line, 2 axis makes a square, 3 axis makes a cube, and a 4 axis makes a tesseract. Which can't be visualized properely
8:16 The plural of "axe" (pronounced like 'AKS') is "axes" (pronounced like 'AK-siz'). The plural of "axis" (pronounced like 'AK-sis') is "axes" (pronounced like 'AK-seez'). Both plurals are _spelled_ the same, but they are pronounced differently, specifically in the second syllable.
& then I axed him. Asked lol
What about Jreg's 100 dimension political compass, teach ?
Now we're talking.
The only correct spectrum
What about the compass where the first dimension is between DVD cases and CD cases, followed by 99 other dimensions?
Jreg sucks
@@EuropeanQoheleth Honestly he really annoys me. Jreg's like the human personification of smug centrism.
The only party I am always for, is the Pizza Party.
Pizza Party 2020
I'm with the Mario Party
@@MPHJackson7Sounds like a good party to be part of.
@@iammrbeat Make Pizza Great Again!
Pizzagate is real folks
This was informative, interesting, and entertaining. You're a great teacher! Thank you (and Mr. Barris) for taking the time to gather and create this presentation!
Good video. Really wish our country would stop being polarized, have more than two parties and was honest to each other.
Thank you. I really get tired of the polarization as well.
Stop voting for Democrats and Republicans and we can fix it easily
unfortunately the first-past-the-post election system naturally favors two parties with fairly nebulous coalition ideologies in any given election (they don’t have to be the same two nationwide) because a second candidate on any given side of any given issue splits that side’s voters and essentially hands the election to the other side. We need electoral reform for a preferential voting system, like Australia’s Instant-Runoff system or New Zealand’s Single-Transferrable Vote system so people can vote their conscience without hamstringing themselves.
Mikhail Mikhail Republicans aren’t interested in fixing anything.
@@punctuationman334 And Democrats are? They're still throwing a tantrum 4 years later lol
Great video, as always!!!!!
Thank you sir!
Binging Mr. Beat videos on this stormy evening! Great video!
Fantastic. Thank you Mr. Beat.
Thank you for having me over Mr. Beat! It's a great video and I'm glad you gave me the chance to take part in it. Merde!
P.S: My voice is so messed up because I'm currently in Colorado and I'm not handling the dryness very well.
You can come over to my house any time...heck, next time maybe you can even get out of that frame. Heee hee
Please supreme being let me out!
This is Barris! - French History your content looks like it might be interesting but I can’t get past the cringe-y Terrance and Phillip animation. I kept fearing fart jokes as I watched...
@@jpe1 Ah yikes. It's only because my animation is so poor. I promise my normal videos have much less of it haha
@Daniel b Merde also means "good luck" or "farewell" in French.
This is the only unbiased political spectrum video I've ever seen on UA-cam. Thanks Mr.Beat! Great Video!
Notice how Mr Beat sidestepped the question on his royalist sympathies.......
LONG LIVE THE KING.
@@iammrbeat Guillotine!
@@iammrbeat DOWN WITH THE KING
AND THE STATE
PUNCH A NAZI COMRADE
MrBeat This dude talking needs captions. Couldnt understand shit
BeastMode why didn’t you turn on captions then?
this is just thrillingly useful. thanks Mr. Beat!
I appreciate the effort in the editing you had my attention the whole time, lots to learn from just the way to put the videos together
“Unless you’re a royalist, we’re all left wing.”
Conservatives: *Wait. That’s illegal.*
Royalists are the conservatives in Britain. Conservatives in the US want to conserve what the founding fathers put in place when they formed the country. Conservatives in Britain are much different than Conservatives in the United States.
Conservatives: "AAAAA I'm a dirty commie!
Me sat in the U.K. *GOD SAVE THE QUEEN* also at this point, I’m in favour of the queen taking a shot at governance again, she certainly couldn’t be worse than the majority of our and the world’s current politicians.
@@ajl8975
Don't spit childish idiocy.
I'm happy United Ireland, Independent Scotland, and hopefully England Republic will be the near future.
I wish it can be sooner so we can stop naming everything after that old hag. 🙄
@@Muusoc999 Yeah most Americans would be left wing back then. The most radically changing part of politics is social issues like progressivism, much different now than it was in the 1960's. Economic, Interventionists have changed little or none at all
"Everything i dont like is left-wing."
-Prager "U"
Jack R ‽‽
Most of the secularists I know consider themselves right wing, ie in favor of limited government, minimum taxation, maximum individual liberty. I guess Mr. Beat is correct, the labels aren’t very useful.
@@jpe1 Secular talk is the name of a progressive UA-cam channel
@Jack R Kyle doesn't like socialists
Everything I don't like is "the other side."
@@iammrbeat The worst part is that there isn't 'another side.' People have opinions and maybe they clash. But people generally aren't interested in other people, thus they haven't spent anytime creating ideas deliberately oppose your ideas. You thinking that people are your opponents is just you being arrogant and not realizing nobody cares about what you say
The differences between the US and Europe are interesting.
First, the colors are swapped in Europe: red is left, blue is right.
And "liberal" is a position on the conservative side that wants a small government with not too may rules. That's just the opposite of liberals in the US.
You're thinking of the classical liberals, AKA, Libertarians.
I really like that you included sources & further reading. 👍
Yes, get rid of the labels. I think they just create divisiveness, especially when, as you point out, people are in actuality more in the middle somewhere and fluid in their positions.
By the way, are you color blind? My shirt is green, not yellow.
Yes I’m pretty sure if everyone would think for themselves we would all agree that we just want the government to stay the fuck out of our lives
@@izparry2646 I disagree, I think we need the government to do certain things for society to function. The real question is what should governments do, and how do you structure that. I personally think the government should do a lot of things they don’t now, I would also like the government to stop doing certain things it does currently. There’s a complex series of factors that determines what will work out and what won’t and it always changes, we need our government to be more responsive to the material conditions here at home. I would like our country be ran by the people in their best interests, if we can give regular people more power in the system, things would improve.
I figured out the problem with this country. Well, okay, so Thomas Sowell's explanation of the lack of common decency is a part of it, but...
There's another facet. We have a woefully inadequate education system that leaves a void in people's minds. That void is filled by social media and MSM, who are controlled by trillions of dollars of "special interests".
That is where all this divide and conquer comes from. It starts in childhood. Inadequate schooling = brainwashed population. We need to rebuild education from scratch; make it more comprehensive and emphasize individuality and critical thinking. We're not going to beat the CCP in the hivemind department. They have 1.4 billion people. We have 340 million.
I can't stand with either because I am always changing my mind due to the new information I learned. I'll stand with whoever has a better idea of solving problems. For now, I am just going to worry about myself because I can't trust no one. I can't trust big government or corporations. Every group has their own special interests. #worryaboutyourself
well, government and corporations are in bed with each other. It allows companies using its wealth to manipulate the government into giving it more power through tax breaks and regulations. It's literally crony capitalism
take the 8 values political test, it may not be perfect but it may help you get an idea
@Gringo I'm gonna press X on that one.
@Gringo idk abt that dude, seems like corporations will exploit anyone at any given moment as soon as there’s a profit incentive.
Yes both answer to the ruling power the freemasons. Welcome to the System.
I feel the "more government" and "less government" depiction of left and right is reversing quite rapidly
@@wholesomebooks1636 either way it seems to be more government that agrees with me
I’m digging the beard!! Great video! Much love from Canada🇨🇦
Well glad you like both the beard and video! :D
Finally someone who talks sense. Subscribed and saved this video
Welcome to my channel and thanks for subscribing. :D
This is why we need a three axis system, competitive vs collaborative, conservative vs progressive and authoritarian vs libertarian.
? wouldn't it make more sense to have capitalism vs communism, conservative vs progressive, and authoritarian vs libertarian?
@@oogabooga7886 Capitalism is the dominant form of competitive politics, socialism the dominant form of collaborative. Alternatives exist for each, syndicalism for socialism for instance.
@@oogabooga7886 The sapply political compass actually has this, check it out for yourself.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts I'll admit "Competitive vs Collaborative" intrigued me very much.
Made me stop and think tbh very engaging comparison.
No love for constitutionalists I see.
Great video! Informative and objective.
The Left-Right dichotomy is suboptimal, but somehow we can't seem to get rid of it.... Any alternatives are just too confusing as pointed out. Excellent explanations and I had no idea it stems back to the French Revolution. Great to see Barris here!
Happy to be here!
Well thank you, and I agree that all the alternatives do seem infeasible due to their complexity.
Very true
@@iammrbeat You might need more than two political parties if people in the US are to accept the idea this is more complex than 'them vs. us'.
Didn't it originate with a bible verse?
Good video, Sir. I call myself an Independent and I'm registered as an Independent to vote. I was raised as a conservative and was a registered Republican for most of my life. I'm 61, now. I read a lot and learned that I was trapped in a political bubble and decided to register as an Independent about 5 years ago. I've forced myself to look at things from the other guys point of view and started seeing my views on things change. I'm educating myself on a broader political and social spectrum. Watching your video and another UA-camr's political educational video from K.B. has helped (IS helping) me grow. I shock myself nowadays because I see myself becoming more Socialist. Yeah, Socialist! With my upbringing, I never thought that this would happen, NEVER! I still have some conservative views, though. I don't like the term "Centrist" because, as you sort of said here, most of us are all over the the place on the spectrum. As I continue to learn about other topics contained in this subject, my views changes, some. Some of my views have changed widely. My long-time conservative friends say that I'm a radical Liberal now. I just laugh and reply that I'm an 'independent thinker' and I refuse to allow myself to be trapped in any political bubble. Thank you, Mr. Beat, for posting this good video on the subject. Side note: I really like what you're done on the solar front. All the best to you and Mrs. Beat!
I don't know what "solar front" means, but thank you! And props for being an independent thinker not willing to be pigeonholed.
Well, if you see yourself becoming socialist, I recommend you check out Contrapoints or PhilisophyTube.
2 very smart left-wing anti-capitalist channels that really seem friendly!
@@frocco7125 Contra is more of a social democrat than socialist.
I think Centrism means that one pulls their views from both sides of the spectrum but don't quote me on that
Rocco Anders uhhh they are most definetly not "very smart" maybe not the worst breadtube has to offer, but to me they often come across as slightly more verbose twitter-tier "culture critics"
TLP does their whole anti-capitalist thing much better than them imo
There is no such a thing as "the left" and "the right". Germany has 3 left and 2 (or 3) right-leaning parties. There are many ideas on both sides. And sometimes lables don't mean anything. Ludwig Erhard was a German Christian Democrat but I'm sure his "Social Market Economy" would be called Socialist by many in the U.S..
That's because Americans generally don't understand that most democracies have three major ideologies. American liberalism has mostly been split in two, with the economic aspects of liberalism having been (mostly) adopted by the Republicans and the social aspects (mostly) adopted by the Democrats. Without a two dimensional chart you really can't describe someone's positions, since everyone is a little liberal, a little socialist and a little conservative. It really is just about how much you stand with each. With one dimension you could say "ideal government size" and suddenly socialists and conservatives are on the same side opposite liberals. If the axis is about tax rates the results change, etc.
@@Svartasvanen18 I think there are more. I think in Europe there are 6 big ideologies. Democratic socialism, social democracy, liberalism, christian democracy and nationalism/patriotism. In Germany a party of every one of these ideologies is in parliament. In the EU parliament all of them (exept the nationalists) have a united faction.
Preach it.
RealTalkChannel - RTC I kind of wished Nobody would run under labels, obviously everybody would fit into a specific category but I do want people to vote based on the policies. Some people just go left or right which honestly I agree with if you are against left-wing policies why would you ever vote for them and if you are against the right wing policy is why ever vote for them? But some people may benefit from it, not saying that this is the conservative or the leftist. All I can say is abortion is evil.
The problem isn't that European politics are that "mixed", it's just that American politics are ridiculously bipolar and counterproductive
What I "love" is that a lot of what makes Democrat and Republican policy wise, (bigger/smaller government, less/more military, higher/lower taxes, social/individual, flexible/non-flexible constitution, etc. respectively) are far from the minds of modern Democrat and Republican and now you're labeled one side mostly depending on your social political view instead everything together. (Economics, foreign policy, military decisions, AND social political views, etc.)
Also, it doesn't matter what side, pretty much every representative in politics sucks and are only looking out for their own self interests.
Mr Beat! I've been a big fan and subscriber for about 3 years now. Production quality is booming. I'm so glad to see you're putting so much effort into the channel! Just a side note, my favorite videos have been comparatives, especially the Rwanda Burundi one. I'd love to see more country comparisons. Thanks for all the videos!
Thanks Sam! I have my next comparison video coming in a couple weeks! :D
@@iammrbeat 🎉🎉
This feels like a video that would have been wheeled on one of those tv/vcr stands in to my 7th grade civil studies class.
I like the 8 axes test mostly because it is still reasonably small (I've seen one with almost 100) and from it, you can guess someone's position pretty accurately on most topics.
I think those are the two defining features of a good theory, succinct and predictive.
If there's a hundred, then there's not much guessing going on.
Yeah of the ones I know I think that one is the most accurate, although everyone of them has some flaws.
@@KarlSnarks There's a better one: Left/Right Social/Economic/Political.
Left: Collectivist, Central Planning, Statist
Right: Individualist, Free Market, Anarchist/Minarchist
Notice how the 3 pillars of each side build upon each other and are historically accurate. For example: Mussolini, Stalin, Mao and Hitler were all socialists and the model reflects that, as they were all squarely on the Left. (the whole "nazis/fascists are far right" is a fabrication of leftist media halfway trough the 30s to wash their hands of the whole affair in europe and paraphrase Mussolini by saying "that wasn't real socialism").
Leftists today are the exact same as they were a century ago.
@@ismaelsantos5378 Completely incorrect, fascism was mostly supported by the middle and upper-class, as they where the first to get rid of socialists and communists and cracked down on unions. Its economics can at times be more centralized or market based but always depends on what benefits power. Hitler privatized large parts of nationalized sectors, and Pinochet was a huge supporter of the same type of capitalism as Reagan. Fascists did and do often use vaguely leftist rethoric but without class analysis, because it sells well, especially back in 1930's Europe.
Anarchism has always been a far-left ideology as it fights against all hierarchy including both the state and capitalism. They either support non-capitalist markets (markets without private property and owner-worker relationships) or a form of decentralized direct-democratic communism and accept pluralism in those ideas as well. Look at Makhnovchina, Revolutionary Catalonia and Aragon, or the ideas of Kropotkin, Proudhon, or Mallatesta. Anarchism developed in worker movement ffs. And there are also other forms of libertarian socialism, like Neo-Zapatismo practiced by the Zapatistas, or Democratic Confederalism in Rojava.
Since the mid-20th century there are people who call themselves "anarcho-capitalists", but the only thing they have in common with anarchist is being against the state (in theory), and their ideas don't come from anarchist philosophy but classic liberalism and right-libertarianism.
@@KarlSnarks Several points to make here.
1- Pinochet was not a fascist. He was authoritarian, but he was no socialist.
2- Mussolini and his supporters were hardlines socialists who did not want to be asociated with other socialists because they saw them as "not real socialists".
3- The "middle and upper class" supporting fascism/socialism is nothing strange, as it is narcisistic half-baked "intellectuals" the ones most likely to support socialist ideals. Look at the Left today or Mao's red guards, who were mostly students of middle and upper class.
4- Socialists cracking down on unions or other socialists is also a feature, as the cult is sustained trough pure orthodoxy and thus any dissent, no matter how small, is to be purged.
5- Fascists, like all socialists, do inject class struggle in their rethoric, but they put more emphasis on nationalism. They are, after all, nationalistic socialists rather than internationalists like the communists are. This is not to be confused with the more ethnic-centric National Socialism, of which Mussolini was not very fond of but tolerated it because it was convenient to keep the alliance with Hitler.
6- Anarchism is not something the Left supports. They only use the label, as with everything else, to cover up their true nature. A modern example is Antifa, which paints itself as "anarchists" but they are actually hardline fascists just like the Blackshirts and the Brownshirts were (in fact Antifa was the communist equivalent to those militant groups).
The Left only identifies as "anarchist" when they do not have full control of the state, once they have a majority you start seeing the overbearing teachings of Gentile, Mussolini and the likes become very obvious. The Twitter fiasco that has been revealed is a good example: Leftists using corporate and state power to supress dissent and deceive the population.
7- You cannot have a Market without Private property, as Trade is the exchange of private property between mutually consenting parties. Perhaps you should learn what words mean before talking out of your ass.
8- In marxian doctrine "Democracy" is impossible outside of Communism, so whenever Leftists say "democratic socialism" what they really mean is "Communism". I spent years going trough the unbearable slog of reading the works of the Spawn of Hegel and word games do not fool me, nor will I allow lies to be kept up.
9- "Libertarian Socialism" is an oxymoron, much like "Market without private property". Libertarianism is about individual freedom while Socialism is collectivist slavery. Polar opposites.
10- Anarchism has always been a feature of the Right. But in practice Rightwingers go for Minarchism, a less idealized and more pragmatic manifestation of the anarchist ideal.
Anarchy means No State.
Socialism cannot be anarchist as it is Statist by design, going all the way back to Hegel when he posed that The State is the manifestation of the Divine. Communism is merely Hegel trough the lens of Marx, while Fascism is Hegel trough the lens of Mussolini&Gentile.
Perhaps you should stop repeating doctrine and using lingüistic sleights of hand and have an honest conversation for a change. I know it's hard (or impossible, for the most ardent defenders of that blight called Socialism) but it's time to lift the veil of deception and see reality for what it is.
Speaking of seeing reality for what it is. A little test:
Define the word "Woman" without using any variation of "a woman is someone who identifies as a woman" or "a woman is someone who isn't a man". (that is, provide a definition that isn't based on social constructivist nonsense nor is a circular definition).
Leftist Cultists are unable to give a proper definition and go trough mental gymnastics and more lingüistic games and sleights of hand when asked. Let's see what are you.
Mr. Beat's aesthetic is pretty fluid but I'm digging his crazy beatnik vibes here.
"you, with the yellow shirt!" - and me, wearing a yellow shirt, sitting there, completely freaked out.
I can imagine he is just like: hey you with the yellow shirt. Then he says your name and where you are located
haha same
How did we guess?! Or maybe that was just lucky 🍀
Imaging if you were high
Yellow is the colour of the Vatican...
As a leftist, I hate when people call Liberals "leftists". They are not the same-yet people use them interchangeably.
so real
You leftist’s are worse
@jackbrown4130 so you are okay with the status quo of the liberal polity? That just makes you a liberal
As a liberal, I hate when people call leftists "liberals". They are not the same-yet people use them interchangeably.
I just hate liberals and leftist equally...
Finally a channel who educates, not takes sides.
I do not see much difference between a solviet socialist that killed millions and a national socialist that killed millions. How are they opposites when they were both socialist dictators? Maybe we should consider those who want freedom from gov't control ( rightwing) and those who want the gov't to control every part off the country (leftwing).
There are others problems that I don't see in the video
1.Volatility of the meaning:if you ask Europeans where is liberalism on the chart they will say on the right but if you ask Americans they will say on the left
2.You ca be a left winger in Saudi Arabia and a die hard right winger in USA at the same tine
Good points to bring up!
Can you explain how the Saudi Arabia thing works?
@@kalanaherath3076 Something that's pogressive in Saudi Arabia like women rights to vote it's not pogressive at all in US whereas something pogressive in US can be hard to understand for a ''pogressive'' Saudi mindset.That's why someone can identifies as pogressive in Saudi Arabia can also identify as conservative in US.
@@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 Ah, so you mean in Saudi Arabia, the oberton window is so much to the Right, that a leftie there would qualify as a Right winger in the US
Kalana Herath it’s not so much that the window is moved, as just the entire compass is
I always thought cultural values, economic values and opinions on state control were the most important because those are the issues most political debates use as general talking points.
Managed discourse.
Both economically and politically, do those who rule us deserve that power?
Often enough, the answer is a consistent no.
There is a clear pattern of answers that reinforce each other. That's what the political spectrum was about in the first place. Anarcho-communism is, unequivocally, the most pro-freedom ideology possible. (And yes, it is possible. It has been done before and is happening right now in parts of the world.) On the other hand, Stalinism fails to have major freedoms despite being called left-wing. Right-libertarians claim to be pro-freedom on account of being "libertarian" yet they are in favor of corporations holding more power over people, making people less free. The idea that "left" and "right" are muddied can only be maintained when you don't mention the existence of left-libertarians like anarcho-communists, something that is almost always done when discussing this topic and was done by Mr. Beat in this video.
@@space1546 do you have examples of anarcho-communist societies?
@@jkcrawl Revolutionary Catalonia was probably the largest one. If you want a more recent example, while they don't use the exact term, the Zapatistas organize along the same principles as anarcho-communism.
@@space1546Awesome, you gave me some interesting stuff to read up on.
you really are a good teacher. You explain things that I've been trying to understand. It's very appreciated.
I visited the Political Compass website. The questions seemed pretty standard, but my answers surprised myself as I thought about each question.
Thank you this is so true. Time to learn from each other regardless of sides.
So basically both sides are two opposite cults fighting one another. Yeah iv been saying that. All the while our country decays and the real issues ignored.
Yes. The class issues.
@@Liriq yeup
Hello horseshoe Theory
@Careful Icarus bullshit
@Careful Icarus no way
Mr. Beat, now Mr. Beard
For now, at least. :D
mostly Mr Unshaven.
Me & Mr. Beat: “Not every person’s ideas fit perfectly on one side of the spectrum or the other.”
Everyone else: “Which side are you on?”
This was really cool. A good presentation with just the right amount of silly-to-smart "factor". Unbiased and covering things both modern and historically. Thank you for your video.
Gain deeper Political Understanding (we need as many as possible to read-up on this Stuff) by watching
"Ranked Choice Voting Explained" and 'Why America has a Stunted Political Spectrum' and 'How Left is the Left in America, really?' by "Second Thought".
And 'Some More News' has Video-Essays on EVERYTHING.
It wasn’t unbiased. It leaned left.
What was cool about it? Mr. Beast puts up a bunch of charts, with no explaination for interpretation. What exactly did you learn? What does Left wing-Right wing mean?
The charts simply make it more clear that we all are blended INDIVIDUALLY, For instance; Most humans are anti-abortion. Some of those anti-abortion folks don't feel they have a RIGHT to force their OPINION on others. Some folks don't feel life is sacred. Some folks don't believe IN sacred. There are other folks that are out right Atheists or agnostics. Some of those folks DO believe life is sacred, but recognize that GOD created a vicious earth, where everything feeds on everything else. On the other hand, some of those Anti-abortion folks feel they DO have the Right to force their beliefs on others. Some of these folks believe they should force destitute women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term...BUT, once the child is DELIVERED it gets to live a life of poverty, with NO help from the society that forced the pregnancy to term .
Never forget, that same society CHOOSES who will be rich and who will be poor. This statement is simplistic in print, but deeply complicated in practice.
Understand one simple concept...It is about class!
Right is what we moderns call the Military Industrial Complex. It's a new term historically, but existed in practice in the Roman Empire, China, Egypt.
Right Wing is the Rulers and support groups; police, military, banks, corporations, media and government.
Left Wing is the people, the slaves.
In the US, there is virtually no Left Wing media. Even Public radio, which is extremely Center based, is not a Left media.
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It leaned left but he did a decent job
@@rdp1240 how so?
I found this video very well explained and thought thru. big thumbs up to you both! Cheers!
Well thank you! :D
"axies" dude. That's how you say axes.
AX EEE AYS
Unless you're talking about the plural of "axe" as in the choppy choppy tree cutter things, in which case it's "axes" pronounced exactly how it is written
Who cares
This is a great video thanks
Cool triskelion
Excellent food for thought! Thanks for this video Mr. Beat!
I think most Americans have more in common than not. It seems only a handful of ideas separate us.
Thanks Gael! I agree that we all have WAY more in common than we realize.
8:57 I actually *was* wearing a yellow shirt, and I was kind of startled lmao.
Same
I personally like the dichotomy of 'selectorate theory' where a position of power or decision-making is based on how much support is needed to enact that power; broad or narrow support, which is respectively about aligning interest with more people or less people. The more people you need, the more your policy needs to satisfy more universal needs; the less people you need, then you need only satisfy those few people and the more you can ignore the rest.
6:11 Shoutout to the person that got Mr. Beat a better political spectrum
It started as a counting system? That is hilarious to me. I love it. Thanks for the knowledge! Great video.
Thanks buddy!
I was watching this vid half naked, and you are telling me you with a yellow shirt and I was like damn. Howd you know that I'm asian?
LOL!! Tried to just scroll by. But this is too funny. Good one.
8:17 No, “axes” in this case is supposed to be pronounced like “ax-eez”.
@@jaredschreiber4455 True……………
yes thank you
@@tiff7934
My pleasure! 😊
nerd alert
@@caseyjones5145
Why are you booing?! I’m right! 😤
Like he said,most are somewhere in the middle.
Left and Right terms used to divide us. The old "divide and conquer " strategy.
Ayeee Kyle Kulinski is finally entering mainstream discourse and becoming an icon for the left! Love it!
Kyle is badass
@@BioDevil-b7v Kyle is my number 1 commentator right now with Crystal Ball right behind him. It used to be Cenk but he leaned a little too hard into Russiagate
@@johnyoung5516 based John
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@@BioDevil-b7v Amateur said it with sarcasm
Remember that left and right-wing are both parts of the same bird.
Yes, a flightless one for the unilateralist...I like to think of headless chicken...
Ben Shapiro after destroying the left wing of the plane:
Sitting here in my yellow shirt, drinking my morning coffee, and watching this I found your call out amusing
USA has 2 right wing parties.
Dems have 5-10 politicians who lean left...the rest are right wing.
Its more like a right wing party with two left wing party with one being more centered
this person gets it
“I’d like to suggest there is not right or left, there is only an up and a down.” -Ronald Reagan.
*pulls out star map*
ACKTUALLY
Yeah, the great communicator on how to divide the country.
Reagan was a piece of shit
We’ll play like you didn’t say that.🥴
@@timothybrown6565 bruh, he caused the death of hundreds of thousands of people by ignoring aids, made unjust gun control, was hyper authoritarian, and created the fallacy of trickle down economics. He's shitty.
I like how you keep things neutral. Thank you.
Almost impossible to make a video about biased political stances unbiased
Neutral with a nod to the left really isn’t neutral.
@@rdp1240this video just told you not to focus on left vs right! didn't you watch it??? 😂
@@rdp1240 You can't really make that claim with 100% certainty because you have your own bias.
Holy crap, when I typed my political related inquiry into Google I had no idea they would give me Mr. Beats my favorite history teacher. Yes, I will watch your video of course
The right-left spectrum *is* relative to the country, period of time and even person - that is why its so good. There is no other term that describes each half of any country's political spectrum. Liberal-conservative misses out that liberalism is considered conservative in many countries, and conservatism can often be considered centrist. Socialist-capitalist misses out that some countries are various degrees of socialist to begin with, and also lacks any of the other values place on the left-right spectrum.
Yes, not everyone fits perfectly on the right or left - but that is why its a "spectrum".
Liberalism is not Conservativism anywhere. They're unrelated right wing ideologies. Saying that the opposite of Conservativism is Liberalism is like saying that the opposite of black is dark blue.
Things like 8 values give you a better idea
The idea that the "right" wants less gov spending is extremely outdated. That may have been more true in the 1970's or earlier, but at least since Reagan the facts don't match the rhetoric:
the political compass:
left to right: X axis
authoritarian to libertarian: Y axis,
me in the center but with a large Z axis: *halo music intensifies*
What would the z axis even be?
@@plm-fp6nu based or cringe
@@realspartan5206 lmfaooo
Y axis is more important.
*Change my mind*
@@realspartan5206 its decided whether you're based or cringe by asking one question: every pokemon vs. 1 billion lions. If you pick lions, you're radical cringe.
great video man
Thank you for the video. I agree that using these right or left terms are too broad in scope, that’s why when people ask me where I stand I usually say that I’m conservative because I think it’s more specific.
I had to search a lot for a good video like, this. Information, pure information, Thanks Mr. Beat
Simplified well, I like it. It helps me understand a lot more and pushes me to keep learning
Check out What IS Politics? on UA-cam -- it's the most interesting and informative thing I've ever watched on this site about politics. There's even a segment on left and right politics, which is also very funny. The whole channel can be humorous, but is incredibly well researched. Can't recommend it enough!
Yes, the plural of "axis" is "axes"-pronounced with a long e. Like the plural of "crisis" is "crises," or the plural of "thesis" is "theses."
A major problem with the political axes is that eventually, when add too many, it results in some positions in one axis being implied to be directly connected to another axis even though they aren't and thus misrepresents them. And if you just simplify it by getting rid of some of the axes, then it becomes inaccurate and difficult for people taking it because it does not take into account many of the nuances people have in their political beliefs. 9Axes and 8Values are great political tests since they separate the axes into different measurements and tell you how much you swing in each axis. They even tell you which political ideologies you most closely identify with.
Honestly, i think the new political spectrum paradigm is whether you are a Conspiracy Theorist (aka Truther) or a Propaganda Believer. For example, the same people that hate Trump were the first people to participate in Trump's pride and joy, Operation Warp Speed. They trusted Trump with their life participating in a medical experiment. We have the media to thank for tricking people into hating Trump yet tricking people into trusting Trump with regard to genetic experimentation.
I think an important thing that didn't get mentioned is, there is a big difference between where peoples' particular beliefs place them on the spectrum, and that most people have some liberal and some conservative views, AND where a particular form of govt or particular economic system lays on the same spectrum.
oh no I'm wearing a yellow shirt
I know. I see you. :)
I think of it this way:
Hierarchical versus non-hierarchical control of…
1.) Resources
2.) Education / News
3.) Decision-Making Process
Plus a spectrum of charismatic versus violent forms of control.
He says "you in the yellow shirt"
Me: HOW DO YOU KNOW??!!"
"Left" and "right" are effectively pointless. It's not worth anything
Left wing: ew
Right wing: no
Wings of freedom from AOT: Yes.
Both sides have a list of issues that the electorate can't embrace. The voter gets abused either way. We always have to choose between bad or worse. They both do the bidding of their own special interest groups, that may not represent us. I'm fed up with both parties.
Democrat vs Republican is not necessarilly the same as Left vs Right.
8:59 Beat: You, yes you...with the yellow shirt
Me: *Omg* 💀
I knew it!
@@iammrbeat You just haaaaaaaddd to call me out on the one day I wear my only yellow shirt.
Bruce Wayne! Remember me?
Bro same 😂
I’ve always tried to be an adaptivist. Someone who doesn’t lean to the right or left. Top or bottom. Not even the center. I adapt and adjust. Changing and lying on political agenda.
I agree, ideologies are dangerous. I think the 20th century proves this. However, I do feel what the U.S. needs at the moment (assuming you’re American) is a shift to the left, to be more in line with the social democracies of europe
@@nathanhernandez7173 nah… (in my opinion) European countries don’t have strong constitutions
And if they did, it wouldn’t involve having the right to own military grade weaponry.
Also… they leech off the US in someway or another.
I mean... By all means reject political parties and candidates but the labels of right & left themselves mean something concrete in terms of describing your beliefs.
That's the reason why the wing spectrum exists, you don't follow a political party but have a personal opinion on these topics. You can't be adaptive on the spectrum, gotta see where you fit
@@_.--._._-._--._-.--__.--._._-. fr like just pick a side
This is good. It presents different idealisms and what they are.
It’s up to you to decide where you believe you fit best
"You... with the yellow shirt." Darn, I'm actually wearing a yellow shirt.
Personally, I love 8values and ISideWIth.com. Though, neither are perfect of course. Political charts, in my view, are like maps. Maps are supposed to give you a good representation of the Earth, but can never be perfectly accurate since the Earth is a sphere-like shape. Similarly, political charts may be able to give you a good representation of your political viewpoint, but they can never be perfectly represent what you believe.
When I say "Left-Wing" and "Right-Wing," I usually refer to the definitions which are actually pretty succinctly given by Wikipedia, (opposition to hierarchy and upkeep of social hierarchy respectively), but I can totally see how this is reductive. I think that the way to engage with politics is not to talk solely about ideology, but to put as much if not more emphasis on the actual ideas you hold. Great vid and nice beard!
9axes is really good
Personally, I like the 8 values test, which put me as either a Social Democrat or Libertatian Socialist.
Libertarian socialist seems like sort of a contradiction, really.
@@jack-ln9nu Well, that's what the test apparently said. Not exactly sure what that means.
jack I don’t see how they are contradictory. Sure, socialism can be seen as collectivist in terms of economics, but you can still have a socialist society that protects individual rights such as free speech, religion, gun ownership, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc.
Dark Ninja Noam Chomsky is a social libertarian also it’s the same as a left libertarian which is what I am but in America libertarians are strictly knows as right wing even tho it’s not true so I just go by a free democratic socialist instead
@@samstuff8554Libertarians are known as right wing in the US because the left here is so authoritarian. I can’t think of a single politician on the left who supports free speech or the 2nd amendment.
When I took the compass I got left-libertarian but I still considered myself as centric and somewhat a bit conservative. Man this is def lots of questioning
Most sources are left leaning (quite biased) so therea no surprise. But that's the reason why we have a spectrum. Best if you find it yourself instead of using a quiz. These sources are left wing breeding grounds, but if you're right wing that's still respectable
-Personal leftist.
Try out the Politigram-compass
@insertnamehere6067 You are either a useful idiot or a malevolent wretch.
There's no "anarcho communism". Communism is totalitarian by design and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that. It goes all the way back to Hegel.
@@_.--._._-._--._-.--__.--._._-. Prominant Leftists trough history: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Engels, Pol Pot, Mao.
Prominent Rightwingers trough history: Friedman, Mises, Washington, Rothbard.
Not much to say.