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- Liberal vs. Conservative: A Neuroscientific Analysis with Gail Saltz
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What the difference in brain structure between liberals and conservatives? And where do our political convictions come from: rational deliberation, or biological determinism?
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GAIL SALTZ:
Dr. Gail Saltz is a bestselling author of numerous books and the go-to expert on a variety of important psychological issues. She is Chair of the 92nd Street Y "7 Days of Genius Advisory Committee" and Consultant and Event Moderator for the Clinton Foundation's Health Matters Initiative. Dr. Saltz is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the NY Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of medicine, a psychoanalyst with the New York Psychoanalytic Institute, and has a private practice in Manhattan.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Gail Saltz: So I think what’s really fascinating is that there have been a number of recent studies looking at brain structural differences between liberals and conservatives. And what’s been found in several studies is that liberals tend to have a larger anterior cingulate gyrus. That is an area that is responsible for taking in new information and that impact of the new information on decision making or choices. Conservatives tended on the whole to have a larger right amygdala. Amygdala being a deeper brain structure that processes more emotional information - specifically fear based information. So it’s really responsible for the flight or fright response. And this isn’t everybody. It’s not black and white and of course then, you know, what about all of the people in the middle? But basically the study showed that if you just based it on brain structural size different you could predict who would be a conservative and who would be a liberal with frequency of 71.6 percent.
71.6 percent is a pretty high ability to predict who is a conservative and who is a liberal just from brain structure. When you look at what your parents were in terms of predicting what you might be in terms of conservative versus liberal, that enabled you to predict in studies at a rate of 69.5 percent. So very close. Not quite as good and why is that interesting? It’s because the brain is plastic. So the question as to whether you have a brain structure to start with that informs whether you will be a liberal or conservative or whether the formation of certain thoughts from your parents for example shapes your brain structure. Because the brain is plastic and ever changing, particularly in youth. So does thinking certain thoughts or predominantly let’s say utilizing your right amygdala versus your anterior cingulate gyrus inform the growth of those areas and therefore help you predict later who is liberal and who is conservative.
So in terms of interpreting the meaning of different sized structures for a liberal versus a conservative I think you have to look at what that area is predominantly responsible for. So for instance for conservatives if you’re right amygdala is enlarged and that’s the fear processing area you would expect maybe choices or decisions or character and personality to be more informed by a response to a fearful situation. So for example conservatives in fact in personality studies do tend to rate higher in areas of stability, loyalty, not liking change, being more religiously involved in terms of decision making, having that rate higher for them in making certain choices. And if you look at liberals from a personality character standpoint you’re going to find stronger ratings in terms of liking change wanting to actually base decision making on new information, on science information. And so those differences are not surprising in light of these brain structural differences.
Being a liberal or being a conservative really is not black and white. It’s really a bell shaped curve where, you know, someone who considers themselves conservative may be far less conservative so to speak than someone else who still calls themselves a conservative. And that bell shaped curve continues all the way through where in the middle there may be a large group that calls themselves independents.
What we don’t know is whether that has to do with differences in brain structure and so would we see in independents, no one’s does that study to say oh, independents don’t show any differences in brain structure or any differences in say risk taking reaction. So we don’t know for sure what that means but I think it’s fair to say that even when we looked a...
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Thanks 🙏🏼 this was Very informative!
@@scottiejohnson2639 lol obvious, but still definitely informative
Bravo!
Liberals more phlegmatic and like the Jewish Pharisees
Conservatives more melancholy and closer to the temperament of Christ the carpenter
@@verntoews6937 hahahahabhababahaha oh wow that made lol so hard for sooo long. Conservatives are chill? Name a conservative comedian. Conservatives are unemotional, calm? God believers are fuel by beliefs and fears. Conservatives have killed more Ppl than ANYTHING EXCEPT mosquitos. Conservatives go to war and force christ down the the throats of others.
Just the fact you think conservatives are calm is astounding to me. Ppl terrified of change. Ppl who will do or say ANYTHING so their heads can remain covered by sand.
Jesus didn't become angry took often in the Bible. In Luke Jesus had a complete separation from anger. Conservatives are like Jesus?! Lolol. Nonbelievers make them desperately angry. Conservatives need an ultimate carrot and stick for them to consider morals true. Without ultimate infinite reward or punishment they can not fathom moral behavior. They can't understand society necise they need to be dominated by anything stronger/richer than them. God governments are dictatorships, monarchies; authoritarian governments always, be it clergy, a family, military.
I tell you what, you don't sound from USA so youtube some fox "news" or even better Alex Jones. Rush limpbag. These are what conservatives listen to. You tell me these are anything but pure anger, fear, and grifting.
Conservatives are fear and beliefs. 2 emotions that are incompatible with laughter hence why 95% of comedians EVER are "meloncholy" liberals.
Is anyone watching this during covid-19 times to try to figure out wtf is wrong with our country?
Yep, right here dude lol.
I always have but more-so recently because of Covid-19. I can’t believe it’s been going on for almost half a year and there are still people who think it’s fake.
I’ve gotten to that point too...
Me too.
@@QBert904 I don't know anyone that thinks it's fake. I do know plenty, including myself, that believe it's been over hyped for political reasons.
Professor: this isn't _everyone_
Everyone: phew... it doesn't apply to me
I agree with both of you
Just like everyone thinks they’re above average 🙄....
😮careful, comments fall under the saying, “ open your mouth and remove all doubt” ...🤔
@@pohkeee Democrat white supremacist not suprised
@Yu Tao it’s totally the evidence we’ve seen. This is a neuroscientist, not a political pundit or fake website like what you’re used to.
I’ve noticed the problem across the political spectrum seems to be a lack of nuance ever since the rise of social media especially Twitter.
When you have to condense points into a certain amount of characters, it leaves less room for nuance.
But life itself can be like that. Politics is just part of an aspect in a society's own lives with those two factions, not just politics alone.
Forgot to mention cell phones too! We use to get off our lazy asses to go and see our family and friends-VS-now all we have to do is pick up the phone and text if we so choose. I think we communicated and were educated more productively. When I say this I am also looking in my own mirror-
@@kennethsnyder9236 Consider the impact of tv as well.
@@geoffreyharris5931 Specifically the cable news networks - the need to fil a 24 hour cycle with fresh content absolutely destroyed any pretensions of objectivity by journalists. They're all out to CHANGE THE WORLD instead of finding the whole truth, and finding the whole truth is the first thing they abandon in the rush to push the changes they want. Social media just adds the average idiot's voice to the cacophony.
I grew up in a conservative house, neighborhood, community, and had all conservative friends. I gradually had to give them all up and/or was rejected because I became increasingly liberal. I DO think it's from the brain: I'm just unusually open to new experiences and people, and I've always done risky things. I do creative work. Traditional ways bore or exasperate me. It's how I'm wired. It was painful, though, losing all that community. Wish I'd understood this earlier.
Exactly my experience
This video is a bunch of trash.. please don’t assume this is serious. She has a goal .. and teaks information to fill he narrative. If you are liberal or conservative you can always if you want separate facts from trash. This video is trash.
Trash from behind to end with a sweet voice a necklace and a smile. … still trash. Her summary : conservatives are driven by fear while liberals for social awareness. I’ll clean it for you: liberals good. Conservatives bad. The worst part is her pretending that is science and using the word “science” to armor her argument . She very well could be the science advisor of the ministry of truth. Remember when Science was the argument to keep kids locked down and submit people into fear? Probably the more trashy video I have ever seen.
Same.
Ah, don't lament, young one. Since the situ between "liberals" and conservatives has changed drastically over the last few years, you'd find you wouldn't even be able to talk to those people now. If they followed suit with so many in the GOP -- aka the MAGAs -- you probably wouldn't even be able to stay in the same room with that community you THINK you miss. And I don't think believing they act that way because their lizard brains are in control would make them easier to tolerate!
This also speaks to how a system of education can be used to increase open-mindedness or close-mindedness. Moving away from creating informed world citizens to a system that creates employees may have contributed to these differences.
Ever wonder why, in high school, the arts programs and science classes were always under-funded and used older material? It’s because “some” people didn’t agree with those things, and decided that nobody should have them. Thank god there are parents that care about their kids’ education in science and art because if they didn’t keep “those” people in check, there would be no arts or science. There would only be football and ROTC.
Best perspective
Agreeeeed!!!!!
Both sides have contributed to this school system
@@QBert904 Idk it maybe just be the fact thst generally the equipment for these subjects are just more expensive or simpply not needed
I don't recognise this American thing of talking about Liberals and Conservatives (with Caps) as complete irreconcilable opposites. Uncapitalized, liberal and conservative are labels you attach to a view or an opinion, not a person. Most people are a mixture of liberal and conservative, depending on the topic.
I gave you a thumbs up because I agree it's a terrible way to think about things. That said, the idea is, if you are more liberal you will tend to make MORE liberal decisions based on those views or opinions. Like she said, it's a bell curve, everyone is somewhere on the curve and only a tiny fraction of a percent are at either edge.
I don't think it's true: I myself am all over the Bell curve, depending on what question you ask - deeply 'conservative' for some things, very 'liberal' for others, the point being that labelling _me_ as conservative or liberal would NOT allow you to predict what my response would be on any given issue without asking. So wtf use is the label? My _average_ position on the curve (over all current issues, say) would tell you nothing predictive at all. And I think there are many like me.
If you are all over that bell curve you must be constantly confused and possibly unknowingly hypocritical. You can feel highly emotional about something while making a logical decision that may conflict with your emotional needs, yes, but be sure not to try to take both sides to appeal to "fairness and equality". For instance, the infamous gun control issue. Left would say guns should be banned, right would say banning guns is against the constitution and we have a right to own them. But trying to meet in the middle isn't always the right way to go. You cant say guns are bad but we need them for our protection so lets compromise and only ban semi-automatic weapons. That whole statement contradicts itself and is highly hypocritical. Of course Im not talking about you directly on this specific issue, but people who think like this in general. The best thing to do is to collect as much information on any given subject, make non-bias conclusions, and find the most logical answer as to not constantly contradict yourself. By the way, if anyone is at all offended by the facts that pours out of this lady's mouth then you are obviously proving her point. I see a lot of butt hurt people who think they know better than a psychologist/ psychoanalyst.
Dick Hamilton they are as individuals but collectively humans engage in group think. Quick example, if you were walking in a crowd and everyone suddenly looked up, what would do? Chances are you would too. Its instinctual to follow the herd by default. Our worldly heros are the ones who emerge from the crowd with a clear vision and lead a narrow path.
agreed.although would you say there are a few core beliefs attributed to each ideology, that more often than not, dont switch sides?
I consider myself a liberal, but I still find it difficult to talk to many liberals. Having an intellectually honest conversation about any controversial issue with someone on either extreme end of the political spectrum is damn near impossible and requires the patience of a buddhist monk.
I'm a Centrist/Libertarian but I always get labeled as "far right" since I'm supportive of capitalism and for lower taxes. I support many liberal social ideas such as gay marriage, legal drugs, legal prostitution. I believe it's your body your choice when it comes to medical procedures and moral issues. However classical liberals are seen as the enemy by the left. I get labeled as a Republican despite agreeing with Democrats and Republicans pretty much equally. I have to remind myself not to fall for the Tribalism on both sides but I worrying that the pressure from the left constantly attacking me as a "right winger" is making it harder to stay center and remain neutral.
That's because you are both right wingers, you just don't realize it. As a social democrat from Sweden, it is easy to see what a third world country USA is. Your bar for what is acceptable for the bottom 80% of your population is despicable, your average living standard is nothing compared to most European countries, even the state of your roads are like a third world country compared to us.
It all comes down to expensive and sub-par education and insane propaganda from everywhere, it is so different from the rest of the western world and it seems most americans have absolutely no idea about this.
@@noyourewrong599 I agree with almost everything you said. I am not a Social Democrat I'm a classical Liberal. U.S is below Sweden on standard of living but beats all but 8 European countries for standard of living. As far as Infrastructure and standard of living go it purely depends on the state you live in. I live in Nebraska which has one of the highest living standards in the U.S. The state of Nebraska has a higher standard of living than every European country if looked at independently. We have pristine infrastructure, the lowest unemployment in the U.S below 2%. If you exclude the southeast, California and New York the U.S would actually have the highest standard of living in the world. Unfortunately some states drag the U.S down.
@@Dave-yw2wc that is because poor people move to warmer states in order to survive the winter, you are one country after all
@@Dave-yw2wc
What is the population of Nabraska? Why do you think Liberal states , cities are more crowded than say conservative right wing Nabraska?
I have been watching many documentaries regarding the US population dynamics from the 1960's to about 2007.. Many of the young people in places like Nabraska kept mocing to big liberal states or cities from small conservative towns or states like Nabraska..
Many immigrants from around the world will first choose a Liberal state or city before anything else. And only if they find it very expensive or crowded would they opt for a Right Wing state like Nabraska etc..
So the homeless in New york, California etc is down to decades of people moving from red states for bright lights of liberal states / cities, immigrants watching Hollywood propaganda all want to move to California, NewYork etc. With this many people the cost of living has got to get higher in such states as demand for services is high. Rent will become very high due to the vast number of people moving into a single state. Wages will not keep up with the ever increasing standard of living in these places etc..
Just giving some of what I have observed and keep observing..
What I find interesting is the idea that is very prevalent in the US that one should never change one's mind about anything. As I've grown older I've become more liberal as I realized that so much of what I had been taught by my church was pure junk.
Good for you. Welcome to the rational world.
Lol. 100% cope.
The liberal education system feeding us liberal junk is the new Church.
Even though this makes a lot of sense and is most likely a good scientific look at the brain functions of liberals vs conservatives, it would have been nice to have specific studies and information cited. It is really hard to make sure information is accurate if it is not straight from the horse's mouth. Without cited evidence, anyone can dispute it, and the arguments won't always be logical.
A simple Google takes you to the study. I found it.
It should be cited in the video description though because some people need that level of hand holding.
Her credentials are cited in the pull down which is somewhat useful. And I have read several studies in other reputable journals. A Google search would bring you the information.
@@krazyoldkatlady192 did you make any effort to find where it’s cited before complaining? It’s right in the video drop down description where it should be. It’s like looking for footnotes in an article.
@@aliceputt3133 Credentials mean nothing. A well constructed set of studies with clear hypothesis and, and isolated tested variables say a lot more than a flurry of citations.
The issue with journals is that they cause legitimation by citation, and not legitimation based on the quality and thorough construction of studies.
Maybe I've become to nihilistic to see any good in the modern scientific world, nevertheless I'm pretty sure actual science has been dead for the last few decades.
This is why fear mongering is so effective among those who try to influence people on the right. It would be particularly effective against an other (scapegoats) because it plays on loyalty to the group.
Putin. Left wing socialist communist. Case closed.
I've seen fear mongering work when influencing the left too. Especially when people become afraid that their freedom or rights are coming under attack.
I have left wing friends that are afraid the right is going to try to turn this country into a theocracy reducing women's rights, banning gay marriage, banning trans rights, and other things supported by the left because many of those things aren't in line with many Christian viewpoints meanwhile, I have right wing friends that are afraid the left is going to turn this country into an atheistic communist nation that condones and embraces pedophilia.
I'm more of a centrist and spend way too much time trying to get friends from each side to try to see why the other side sees things the way that they do because this polarization is ripping us apart. We don't need to agree on everything, but so many people on both sides are at the point where they are labeling people who don't share their views as evil or corrupt and refuse to listen to them at all while if you look deeper into the core of both sides arguments, you can see that many of the issues they are complaining about are the same, but they are blaming each other or don't agree with the solutions especially when it comes to issues like education, inflation, and mental health support issues.
hahaha
lizard brain?
side note
evolutionairily speaking we needed both groups around
same as the fearful vs the adventurous.
keeps the general population alive.
there were other studies about who survives trauma and who thrives during calm.
currently? not so much.
Can I recommend Carl Sagan's book Dragons of Eden about brain structure and our reptilian vestigial brain structure? Very good book.
This whole video was basically a polite way of saying most liberals are smart and most conservatives are dumb. The ability to reconsider your beliefs based on new information is literally a hallmark of intelligence; having a knee-jerk reaction to something that scares you… quite the opposite
I think if you stop at the 6:00 minute mark on the video she explains that some people hear you differently based on being a liberal or conservative. I thought that was insightful considering what we have gone through since March.
This is underrated, it means so much and I wish I have the skill to said what I intended to and likewise to understand what they are intended to say.
Why is everyone in the comments so but hurt? They were vary fair in this video and tried to keep all bias out.
Science tends to have a liberal bias
+Matías C It was a joke I think
because they can't handle facts that doesn't go along with them 100%
Please. This liberal feminist says conservatives think in a fear based mode whereas her liberal peers are superior thinking. It's very biased.
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Another way to tell the difference between conservatives and liberals would be to study who actually watch this entire video before voting or commenting...
“Some people are able to absorb new information, process it, and adjust their view of the world based on what they’ve learned. Other people have lizard brains.”
I feel that’s what she really wanted to say
No, that's what she did say. And she wasn't lying, obviously enough.
Sometimes Trumpers should be grateful for political correctness. Otherwise it would be impossible to have a conversation with them.
Nope.
Yup.
That's what I took from this. Some people (conservatives) are afraid of anything that doesn't directly benefit them while others (liberals) are determined to make the system work better for everyone.
On Facebook, there was one woman where I was not sure who she even was, but she seemed particularly awful, spouting conspiracy theories, covid misinformation, right-wing partisan liberal-bashing. Then I discovered to my shock that she had been a secretary where I had worked for many years, one of the nicest people, that I had liked quite well..
I was not sure if I should take it as a sign that there is hope, or as a sign that there is no hope.
It must be in a small way similar to how a parent must feel when a good kid falls in with a bad crowd, and starts picking up bad habits, surly attitudes, and so on.
A lot of people in this world are very nice and polite, never presenting any noticeable problem, in a certain context, *if* you fit into their mold on all key aspects. But if they are narrow on a particular subject, be it race, or religion, or sexual orientation, or politics, and if you fall outside of their mold on any key area, then you see an ugly side that you otherwise would never see.
A lot of people are better at heart than their politics. Their politics reflect not so much who they are, but what they have been turned into. If you inject snake venom into someone's veins, it will have an inevitable effect. Similarly, when politicians and their propaganda machines start injecting a steady diet of twisted information, intended to rile people up, make them feel angry, make them suspicious, make them feel wronged, directing their resentment by vilifying scapegoats, this unfortunately works. It has an effect and it changes people for the worse. The only way this will stop is if those who resort to such tactics start getting punished at the voting booths for it, until it no longer appears to be a winning strategy.
Politics is everything now. We do not live in easy times anymore, politics is survival. Politics is gauging where the enemy is and how safe one is.
Politics can not be ignored. If they are, tyrants rise to power.
the same things are being said about the opposition on both sides. It's chaos now. no way out.
sides are being chosen and the gauntlet has been dropped.
and some want to stick their heads in the sand and "stop talking politics".
"being political" = disagreement.
@@peterbelanger4094 Our politics is not about survival so much as it is about looming annihilation.
Do not take it as being nice.
I have lived and been around people my whole life who presented themselves as nice, as my friends and family, while behind my back are ugly and disgusting humans.
I often feel there's hope some days, but most of the time I'm full of hate and rage at how vile, arrogant and ignorant people are and chose to be.
The only thing that is going to fix this country is a massive and dramatic event, such as civil war.
I work with a bunch of conservatives and its exhausting, I try to socialize at lunch but as soon as the negativity comes out I casually grab my stuff and walk out - and its usually weeks of eating at my desk before I feel like giving it another shot. I might get lucky with a couple days of calm, and then the negativity always comes back out.
One of the nicest people there is a nut job. Buys into every conspiracy, I got vaccinated and she got scared to be near me because I was shedding virus lol. I wore t-shirt from PBS spacetime to work (astrophysicist show) that said I will science whatever I want, and she came up to me with an upset look on her face and asked if I was trying to say something about god/religion... !
Around these people I feel like the professor in the 'a clockwork origin' episode of Futurama.. "I don't want to live on this planet anymore."
One of the guys that I actually like, that never goes to lunch room to avoid the nutjob/negative people. I consider him to be actual friend, he is smart - this video just made me realize he also has the conservatives brain. Was just talking to him about going out and doing things / concerts and the like and he was expressing fear about going out and doing thing. Shootings/sickness/terrorist stuff whatever he is scared to go out and do normal stuff... That is not normal, I go do those things all the time and I've basically never feared that someone would shoot the place up. Now I know why he votes more center even thought he is smart (smart maybe wrong word, but smart and cares about the wellbeing of other people he doesn't know that are different then him I'd say).
I think those of us on which propaganda doesn't work are frustrated with the assumption that no one could rise above propaganda to do the right thing. The fact that these people were susceptible to propaganda is proof they were already flawed people lacking in awareness, mindfulness, and proper mental health.
I'd love to see similar work done using the Political Compass metric as the framework, rather than just the typical left-right spectrum.
The political compass is not a good reference for that, because this is just two problematics seen with the same opposition of logics.
It does not follow the psychological antagonisms.
The interests of the values of Schwartz are of better interest, because linked to psychology, and then to neurology.
There are two antagonisms of interest :
1 ) personal focus versus social focus
2) prevention of loss versus promotion of gain
prevention of loss is linked to fear and fear is linked to ... amygdala. The central value of this is security in the "conservation" group.
promotion of gain is linked to joy, and joy is linked to ... anterior cingulate cortex, the central value is self direction in the group "openness to change".
values of conservative right and far right are around security, and driven by prevention of loss.
Main values of progressive left, democratic socialism, are "self direction" and "universalism" and driven by promotion of gain.
libertarianism and classic liberalism are based on values with focus on self interest.
communities like quakers, amish, etc... rely on benevolence and tradition , conformism values, on social focus.
Yeah, Big Think, let’s see a study into Authoritarians and Libertarians.
I agree.
This video could have been at least 10 minutes shorter.
Personal experience?
The issue with this video is that the findings of the study do not support the conclusions that are being drawn here. The anterior cingulate cortex and amygdala have large number of functions: both are involved in pain processing, fear processing among others. You cannot possibly conclude from that study that conservatives are more emotionally reactive, and that liberals are more open minded. The fact that liberals are more open minded is already known in the scientific literature and the results are being mapped artificially to observed differences in brain structure. There needs to be significantly more studies on the topic to be able to draw any kind of conclusion.
The gun issue is very interesting, I actually see it as an issue where both sides could come to an agreement generally if the rhetoric is turned down from either end. I have pro gun friends who believe in background checks and pro gun control friends who have zero interest in taking guns away from law abiding citizens. There's an achievable middle ground if each side comes to the table in good faith. Just my thoughts based on what I've observed, I could be wrong though
You're right, let's make sure we run a background check on the Taliban, the Cartel, and every gang member/criminal in the country as well.
I agree that the gun issue is interesting. I don't see, however, how middle ground can be found when one side is loudly and consistently lying. What I mean by that is that on the conservative side they are lying about liberals wanting to take guns away from law-abiding citizens. No one in any position of authority has said that is the goal. Conservatives are lying about that.
the problem is never the people, it is those in power doing whatever they want and being extremists on every question.
@@thelyrics5358 but people voted for them despite their agenda. It's not as if politicians hid what they wanted to do from the general public. We, the public, the "opinion pieces", and the Rush Limbaugh's of society share most of the blame, and the politicians who are pressured to be more hard line fall in line with the people if they're not willing to risk their careers or change parties.
Yes it’s called banning guns and taking them out of circulation. Globally this is not an extreme position. In the US however…
on average, about 70% of people support progressive issues on an issue by issue bases. my question is what percentage of people classify themselves as part of a group they may not really be in line with?
loads. Most people don't know what the labels actually mean. They're just desperate to label themselves so they can pretend they know what they are. Bunch of scared shittless blindfolded children Running With Scissors and throwing their poop and everybody.
By the way, I am also a personality that is very similar to Rick and I look at the majority of the population as Morty's.
I never watched Rick and Morty but after three years of people asking me if I had seen Rick and Morty and I decided to watch it and it's one of my favorite shows.
Now I'm going to go get my swanch on.
Many, as it turns out. I'm going to try to remember the title, but I read a book a while back that took up your premise, and found that most "conservatives" actually support what are considered liberal policies (i.e.; many are being duped by the media.)
Lana Gramlich
Or worse, owe a blind loyalty based on family, friends, and community mentality. They can see the pitfalls, but justify ignoring the obvious to facilitate calm water, and superficial appearance of harmony and unity a mile wide, struggling diligently to hide its 1inch depth.
Everyone. I constantly have to remind people I'm not a liberal, I'm a leftist. Not even close to the same thing.
Change can be a good thing. Change can also be a bad thing. The best thing to do is balance openness to change with skepticism of it.
Yours sincerely
Boring centrist
This is really interesting. This might partly explain why younger people tend to be more liberal, because their brains are more neuroplastic and more receptive to change and novel ideas
We also didn’t grow up with leaded gas which gave generations of children permanent learning disabilities and behavioral problems..
Also, they still haven't made money that they're now desperately trying to hold onto so they might possibly retire one day.
@@cc1k435 And conservatives are helping you hold on to your "stuff"? GTFO with that nonsense.
@@mikeneeley1284 lol exactly. Republicans want to cut social security / raise retirement age etc.. But they are the one looking out for old people wanting to retire some day. :P
@@PlayshotKalo
I've got to say that I grew up with that gas, and while I may not be Einstein level. I speak three languages and can fix just about anything by looking at it and figuring out how it's supposed to work. Graduated in the top of my class at University and have a pretty good position in life. As did most of my peers.
I also got more liberal as I got older, I realize that's not the norm, but it's a good reminder that there's not a lot of absolutes in life.
Sources? I'd like to take a look at the studies
Google scholar or microsoft academic: find them yourself
I would be a conservative based on this video. But I’m very left wing on the political issues. I think this is because policies like single payer health care, a strong social safety net, and strong regulation of the economy all creates stability and order which is important to conservatives. So people’s minds can absolutely be changed depending on how one frames the argument.
That’s a good point! I will keep those ideas in mind.
During the pandemic we had the rise of a specific group of avid cult like Trump supporters, the MAGA crowd. They use the term Conservative” because they are Republicans but have abandoned most conservative values. The true Conservatives not driven by lies and disinformation are outcasts and RINO’s or changed parties.
The behavior during the early pandemic, before effective treatment, vaccines, and high quality masks was appalling by those intentionally mislead by Covid misinformation, largely politically motivated (but from other sources as well) was appalling. There was a complete breakdown in empathy and sense of society. There was a war against public health and medical professionals and normalization of threats of violence against those trying to save lives. Hardly Conservative.
Yes, thank you so much! Often enough both sides want the same and just differ on the approach either side believes will get them there.
I want gun regulation, BECAUSE i wanna keep my sense of security, just like any gun-owner. Should i become unstable, my family Should be able to feel safe in the house with me. I love guns, but if i love them above all else, including the safety of my kids at school, then i shouldn't have one.
Concession, compromise, working out a better way Can Not Mean "I'm sorry about your kids, that's the price of freedom."
@@bazingaburg8264 There is nothing wrong with owning a gun. But when over 90% of Americans want some form of gun regulation but you have a party driven by extremes and not listening to the people, that is plain wrong. I am center left and have own a gun for self protection. I had a waiting period for that weapon. Sorry but an impulsive late adolescent male full of testosterone, rage, and impulsivity does not need to be better armed and equipped than law enforcement then slaughter kids…and people don’t need to be carrying guns everywhere without permits and training. Some guy just shot himself and 4 other people in a store with one bullet by accident. No holster no safety. Gun in his waistband.
You have a more developed amygdala?
I think what we need to take home from this is that all humans have an inherent bias when it comes to information and values, and to get out of the gridlock we are experiencing in many nations politics, we have to focus purely on the facts and being willing to experiment to find solutions outside of what we intrinsically feel is right.
It takes a principled mind to admit to yourself that I may not be the best judge of what the right way forward is on a particular issue. But we need some kind of neutral ground.
Simone conservatives won’t accept that lol, you were just reasonable, u didn’t belittle human experiences and neglect history & logic.
"Focus purely on the facts" LOL when so many people embrace "alternative" facts
You just exhibited your bias by claimimg facts, experiment, evidence, and new information should be used to make decisions. This is not neutral ground. This is exactly what the conservative fights against. Did you watch the video?
And the neutral ground can start with tolerance of each other to allow the other side to actually explain their side to you so you don't continue to assume what the other side actually means by your observations.
The sooner people are willing to open up and listen to speech they disagree with or speech they may call "hate speech", the more likely they'll find similarities and hence find common ground.
If you are intolerant, and want to censor "hate speech" without engaging with the other side to truly understand why, why and why exactly they hold those beliefs, you'd remain as closed minded as you perceive the other side to be.
And yah it's easier said than done, but attacking people you think are "bigots" will only justify the disconnect between both sides.
It won't work. For example, I am willing to discuss and be open minded about a lot of things. But then you ask me whether abortion is right or wrong, and I WILL NEVER EVER consider it a valid question. Abortion for me, is ALWAYS wrong, is an abomination and it is impossible to change my mind on it. It is a MORAL issue.
As an old school liberal, I’d read something similar years ago that referred psychologically to liberals as “open construct” people & conservatives as “closed construct” people. My conservative acquaintances never seemed to regard this as a complement. 😂 This feels like the biochemical underpinning. She gives some good suggestions.
I’m not familiar with that framework. What do you mean by closed and open constructs?
@@eleanor8652 It's a method of thinking. Conservatives appear to be more fear-based in their outlook and therefore seek out a "closed," or protective, system. Liberals tend to be less fear-based and more open to new, untried ideas and alternative perspectives. Further, conservatives are willing to defend their fears rather than attempt to get beyond them. Both conservative and liberal mindsets tend to remain approximately steady throughout the life span, barring some trauma or other transformational experience.
@@maxalberts2003 I vaguely remember the closed/open constructs from college decades ago. Your comments align with everything I have concluded regarding the generalizations of "conservatives vs. liberals." Which is why I have always been bewildered by the notion of a "bleeding heart liberal." The term just doesn't make sense in the face of political science, and now, neuroscience. Good comments.
@@maxalberts2003 I wish liberals would stop touting that conservatives are the more fear based group without holding a mirror to themselves. Im a moderate with both conservative and liberal values and I definitely see where liberals are just as fear based with the add on of fragility. It wasnt conservatives crying all in the streets when Donald Trump won scared the orange man is going to come get you! 🙄 It isnt conservatives threatening to leave twitter when elon musk was to take over twitter scared more diverse views would be showcased on the platform. Its isn't conservatives always spouting how were all gonna die from climate change and haven't yet. I believe AOC said we have 12 years left, although it might be 8 now. Liberals are masters in fear mongering. I could go on. Liberals are full of it and don't seem to see how fearful and fragile they are. I could go on. Liberals and conservatives are the same people for different reasons.
This sounds suspiciously like eugenics to me. What else would you expect for a progressive liberal.
Remember when you got your hand slapped for writing with your left hand? Remember when dyslexic kids used to be called stupid? Remember this when you think of the gay people.
nooooo status quo always good!!!!!!! liberals are communists!!!!!!!!!! every single good change that liberals fought for and conservatives opposed is actually just a non partisan thing!!!!!!!
Some deeply religious people will say that even if they were presented with incontrovertible evidence falsifying their beliefs, then they hope their faith would remain strong enough to not be changed by evidence. This could go along way towards explaining that reaction.
I've heard something very similar from the other side of the discussion, how does this study fit in with that?
How are democrats any different? I think conservatives are more open to facts, logic, reason, evidence, philosophy and history than democrats who shout "racism" at facts. At least conservatives have the intellectual honesty to call their denial of evidence "faith".
Grease Monkey Some democrats are conservative, but I've never heard a liberal say that they hope they could be strong enough to never let facts change their mind.
uncleanunicorn Exactly. They don't even admit that they are not willing to listen to facts which is why it is worse than faith and tradition which is an acknowledgement that it is a belief based in the absence of facts or methodology.
Just try talking to a democrat about the failure of the welfare state or defending a free market, they will do everything in their power to NOT listen. Maybe try pointing out biological differences between the races or how race, sex and IQ are all related which is backed by 99 years of research, you will be called a racist, receive death threats and they will attack your source of income to silence you.
@uncleanunicorn, this is a straw man argument because it hasn't happened yet. Nothing has disproved that Christians or other deeply faith based people are incorrect.
95 dislikes...i wonder what group of people refused to accept this new information
Prolly the conservatives who are kind of portrayed as knuckledraggers afraid of their own shadows.
People who are smart enough to identify agenda rhetoric when they see it.
How does it have an agenda? How about instead of just making claims you refute the neuroscience cited in this video?
YoungAtheist
The woman isn't a neuroscientist. She's a feminist columnist who writes about women. There is nothing to "refute" because there is no source and her claims are not scientific.
No one should ever, just accept new information without good reason. Ever. At a minimum it takes a dash of skepticism.
Conservative media makes so much more sense when you know this information.
Seriously.
In my media and info literacy subj, my teacher asked us to make cross referencing analysis about particular issues. Source from fox news I find at first, weird but I dig deeper, well that explains everything.
I’d be very curious to see the same tests conducted on two groups of subjects - those who were primarily born/lived in an urban setting vs those who lived in rural environments - regardless of their political affiliation. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same physiological traits are observed, in particular given the premise that the brain’s plasticity will adapt to the environment. Regardless, it seems that our socio-political stance is more ingrained than we probably think and our impression that our cognitive maturity will rise above any physiological influence is potentially wrong. To put it simply, we aren’t as smart as we think we are and at the end of the day, how are brains are physically wired has more impact than our hubris which purports our consciousness as being able to overcome our primitive mammalian brains.
I need to understand what the hell is going on in this country right now racially and politically.
@San Miguel TV...Don't we all.
I have the answers. Give me a "click" to visit my channel, and you can contact me through my website. (I don't receive UA-cam comments notifications.) By the way, this video is spot-on correct, and I am a teacher and prophet of God.
The media has driven people crazy.
Turn off the television and life is better.
One word: CHAOS
Trump World !!
Lol
She is really going out of her way not to insult anyones intelligence or portray them as black and white. anyone who is offended is just unreachably stubborn and petty
Some of the comments however are genuinely very rude that part is reasonable
Well, you are either dumb or not.
@Argisthi Stephanian I agree, there's no need to be rude.
"Why Liberal Democrats Throw Toddler Temper Tantrums"
• Personality: Part of the definition of a Liberal Democrat's personality disorder is an inaccurate perception of reality. When this distorted perception is revealed, the outcome is frequently anger. There are nine different personality disorders but the most likely candidates for this type of Liberal Democrat behavior are those with narcissistic, paranoid, dependent, borderline, obsessive-compulsive, and anti-social (sociopath and psychopath) (pissy-pants) personalities.
• Addiction: Addicts need justification to continue to abuse their substance of choice. The zwieback-munching Liberal Democrat's typical daily cycle of exploding and then abusing a substance to self-soothe means they need a constant flow of upsetting events in order to rationalize their addiction. Sometimes, the Liberal Democrat's irrational, babyish rage is the first evidence of a hidden addiction.
• Diversion: In order to avoid exposure in another area, a Liberal Democrat might generate a diversion tactic. The problem is that the Liberal Democrat's diversion needs to be so ridiculous that others lose their focus. Thus an extreme rage is born out of necessity.
• Regression: A popular but frequently forgotten Liberal Democrat's defense mechanism is regression. When things get too difficult and the diaper-swathed Liberal Democrat feels scared and vulnerable, the defense mechanisms kick in as a way of self-preservation. Regression is a return to babyish behavior as a way to avoid adult-like reality and responsibility.
• Attention: Just like a pouting toddler, a Liberal Democrat who feels deprived of attention might act out inappropriately. Some adults don’t care if the attention they received is positive or negative, they just want to be at the center by commanding an audience through another stupid tantrum.
•Shame: A Liberal Democrat's hidden shame or embarrassment is an underlying reason for some explosions. This fight response is so instinctive that in severe cases of PTSD, a Liberal Democrat might not even realize or remember that they have exploded.
• Guilt: Sometimes the root of an angry Liberal Democrat's rage is guilt. When a Liberal Democrat feels guilty for their behavior or actions, an immature response is to react in anger. While the Liberal Democrat's anger is really more about losing than another person, it is far easier to project that Liberal Democrat's anger onto others than it is to take responsibility for losing and other stupid behavior.
• Fear: Once again, a Liberal Democrat's immature response to feelings of fear of losing is to respond with anger. Instead of admitting to being afraid of being a loser, which can look weak in some eyes, a person might do the opposite by aggressively exploding in anger. This suppresses the fear only temporarily but it does deflect others from seeing the loser's hidden fear.
• Manipulation: “What are Liberal Democrats getting out of this,” is question that should be asked to check for Liberal Democrat manipulative behavior. If a loser benefits in some way by acting out, they will continue to act out. It is simple cause and effect behavior. To modify this, stop giving the Liberal Democrat what they want and they will naturally find another way to lose.
•Then paddle them.
Never doubt a small mind’s ability to find offense in misunderstanding, or perceive insult where there are only objective facts. They WANT to be insulted. It justifies their survival of the fittest mentality. And legitimizes their self interest over the interests of the greater population.
Ebenezer Kalarama all you have written is a more accurate portrayal of the average conservative mindset and action MO. Taking Conservative faults, listing them thoughtfully, and articulately and then simply labeling them as liberal, strains your credibility to the point of hypocrisy. It’s a disservice to your political prowess, and it serves only to divide. All the things you have listed have been on full display in Trump’s WH. But are ignored or defended in the name of “owning libs.” A poor, and contrite goal which perfectly highlights the very core of your ideological and ethical failures. So dispute your best efforts. You have simply proven correct every negative stereotype assigned to your political ideology. It’s almost impressive when you consider the audacity of its simple honesty.
@@darthblackandmild1742 >>strains your credibility to the point of hypocrisy" LOL... It was obviously tongue-in-cheek, FFS. May I recommend some nice pampers for the weeping, bed-wetting liberals again..?
This is fascinating. Why aren't we all talking about this more. But the depressing part is (for liberals) if conservatives are inherently resistant to change, and don't want to hear new information like the science that this person is presenting, then they won't buy into this idea and consider how this is affecting our politics.
Yet conservatives are watching it😅
“New information”: CRT, gender reassignment surgery for toddlers, the continually changing definition of “woman”
@@edwarddodge7937 You are listening to propaganda. None of those things are true.
Thats because conservatives agree with this video about 50%
Why does "bigger is better" apply to liberals but not conservatives brain area? This is some clear overlooked bias.
All this study show's is: size and developement mean:
A. Amygdala could be fear junkies or people with great willpower.
B. Gray matter is someone delusional or an intellectual.
Some people's brain structure makes it hard or impossible for them to absorb new info and change course accordingly. Isn't that the same as saying they're stupid?
Right Wingers have this trait..
No
So do democrats with their idea on blacks not being black cause they voted wrong 💀
Nah the video is just politically biased and quite poorly disguised. Why is "bigger means more processing power" in one area but for the other its "chemical junkie"?
the whole time i'm watching this im thinking "i dont believe one word of this bullshit but maybe that just means im a conservative... fuck"
I could not have said it better
So liberals are more open-minded and conservatives are more paranoid?
Well if the government gives more funding to you if that's the conclusion, yes.
+Problematic That is a remarkably paranoid statement.
the word liberal and conservative LITERALLY are based around the behavior of the two groups. Is this news? Liberals are more "free to new information/behavior" and Conservatives "keep hold of the things they value." So it's only framed negatively if you think of it that way. Conversely, liberals have little respect for tradition and conservatives value stability. It's all about framing, the video was pretty unbias considering her obvious liberal leanings.
Yup.
+rdecredico Nope
Was the study done on neurotypical population or were neurodivergent people included as well?
As an Autistic adult, I do hate everything that disrupts stability and routine (conservative), yet I am very receptive to new scientific information (liberal), although I can be very slow at processing it due to learning disabilities.
Sounds like a lot of this conservative vs. liberal conflict comes down to a lack of common language. Right wingers can't seem to be able to tell the difference between an actual liberal, a socialist, or a communist; and left wingers are slowly becoming unable to tell the difference between a conservative and a fascist. Society needs a complete reset and re-education on what all of these terms actually mean and on an individual level apply these definitions introspectively to understand what their political standing actually is. But I think I'm just preaching to choir here.
My favorite quote from Warhammer kinda sums it up:
"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."
Being open-minded is good, up until the point bad ideas entrench themselves in your head. If that happens, you are no longer open-minded. Being close-minded protects you from bad ideas and offers stability of mind, focus and safety. However, lack of change leads to stagnation. We don't want that.
Balance the two, like all things.
I have no idea what you nerds are talking about.
Jk trolling.
@Alex M Well Imperium is always the satire on Facism with Imperialism.
Being closed-minded doesn't really protect you from bad ideas, since the ideas you start off with could still be bad. Conversely, the problem with open-mindedness as phrased here seems to be that people can fail to stay open-minded.
I'll say it again for the hekkin morons: if you're mental health cannot withstand new ideas, it is NOT stable. That is only an illusion of stability maintained by pretending there aren't new ideas at every gate, banging down the doors to get in. You cannot keep it all out forever. The only way is to ensure you can handle new information once it gets in. You do that through controlled exposure.
Give up the illusion of stability and find actual stability and then we won't need asinine videos like this one.
This is my take on the issue;
1. "Everyone should enjoy everything unless there is a proven harm or clear and present danger."
2. "The extent of regulating harm shall be proportionate - or only necessary to address the harm a.k.a least restrictive means."
The brain is like a muscle. More activity in an area will increase that area's volume and strength.
So certain experiences that cause certain thought patterns will increase the likelihood of those thought patterns in future experiences because of the increased strength of whichever brain area stimulated the most.
I think 'elastic' would be a better term than 'plastic' to describe the young brain.
But I think the stronger difference between us is not liberal/conservative but rather authoritarian/non-authoritarian.
I'm not sure, the major parties in power as they are have both shown some pretty authoritarian tendencies. Both sides I've heard criticizing each other for it, but ultimately both celebrate when their respective social ideas are forced through at the federal level.
Idk it switches around. Right now conservatives want small goverment with less power, and liberals want the biggest monopoly ever for support programs.
I find it extremely funny how conservatives right now are called "authoritarian" when all they want is some internet freedom to say the N word as it used to be, unlike in Canada where you can get arrested for that.
I can’t help but notice that there is no study cited in the description.
Where is the link to this study. Please source.
You have the internet, don't you? Look it up yourself. It's not that damn hard.
David S. Its called sourcing your facts, the burden is not on those you are giving your facts to, as with any academic institution or study, the author or presenter must sight the sources. Plus I tried finding her sources and going through the bigthink site and she doesnt provide any specific studies. So as far as I am concerned without proof this is as good as anyone else giving an opinion.
David S. Its like if I said the name David is only used by people in Wisconsin according to a study. And then tell you to look it up. Can't really prove it wrong if you cant find the source. I would just say well to bad because thats what the study says. It doesn't work that way. You give sources or your statistics are not credible.
Yeah, try telling that to your professor/employer when they ask you for sources.
any respectable professor cites sources when giving a presentation or anything that resembles that...
Comment section is ridiculous. The psychiatrist is providing NON-PARTISAN facts, yet everybody immediately politicizes them.
NON- PARTISAN? Don't know what if you find if you look at the average IQs of people from different necessities? Liberals aren't interested in exploring this Question.
- NPR drone using gay marriage as an example shows how wrong she is! Big government Fascists are Leftists, aka Democrats, they use gov to dictate over a population. Conservative Libertarians are small government and true Liberals, who do not believe the government has the right to stop people from marrying. It has nothing to do with science. Conservatives have the sense to fear big government, because Democide is the biggest threat to humanity, and it always has been, responsible for the enslavement and murder of hundreds of millions of people. Conservatives are by definition true Liberals, by restraining government intrusion on individual liberties. These shrinks got it cluster fcked to confuse ignorant useful idiots! The Leftists live in fear, that's why they create Fascist government to control! Liberalism is a Conservative value, not a Leftist one! That's why Libertarians are technically Republicans, (Right), not Democrats! (Left) Don't let them brainwash and flip the script!
@@JRay6017 But what about people who are far-right perhaps they have both structures that their brains larger. 😏👨👩👧👦
@@cedricburkhart3738 yeah, studies actually show liberals have higher IQ's than conservatives, jews higher than all. So im guessing as a white conservative why dont you stfu and let the smarter liberal jews do all the thinking for you :)
ayy lmao sad statement to profile an entire group of people as lacking intelligence. Your statement leads me to believe you lack intelligence. To generalize an entire group based on their values makes you a very wrong person!
I am interested to know more about the study.
I don't recall hearing the name or seeing a link in the description (unless I missed it).
I am a moderate conservative and consider myself open-minded and willing to change my opinion based upon new evidence/research, regardless of my bias going into it.
So, am I kidding myself or am I an outlier?
Were the studies conducted on people more on the fringes or closer to the middle? What was the sample size? Demographics? Etc...
While I am absolutely not taking anything away from this video (I thoroughly enjoyed it), but not posting references/sources (again, unless I missed it) is not academically honest.
Can you pin the peer review study, was this published in any major scientific journal like njom or science? Just looking to read it myself. These seems interesting, I really want to read the methods and materials of the study.
Knowledge is power, and Berniecrats are powerful because they're understanding that the taxes they pay should go to things they desire. #truth
Tax the rich for being rich? As an entrepreneur, that doesn't motivate me to be as productive as I can be... in fact, it's very regressive
+Chip Chipperson
So you don't want to make money and own a successful business if taxes are higher?
Similar to how tax brackets work now, the percentages are arbitrary and I only want to make just under a certain bracket so I'm making more money in the end. If there was a flat tax I would be inclined to work harder so I can actually make more money.
If people get to keep more of their own money then it really can go to pay for things they desire.
Let's say you earn 1M dollars a year. You'd pay 20% of anything up to 1 million dollars. If you earn more, any portion that goes above 1M, you'd pay 30% of that portion only. That's progressive taxing. You'd still be swimming in wealth, while your obvious excess money would be directed to those responsible individuals in need. Also, you might find tax-deductible ways to donate money to causes close to your heart if you don't want to trust the gov't with your tax millions. Fact of the future (today) is that automation will rob jobs and opportunities. But it's OK, you don't have to pay anything to anyone. But there will be chaos if you don't make sure that people have what they need in order to be happy and stable. History might have an example or two about this.
It seems important to separate the conservative/liberal voter from conservative/liberal philosophy.
The small government, increased freedom principles trumpeted by the right would seem to be in direct contradiction with the increased fear sensitivity of its supporters. This is probably why politicians on the right that get elected tend not to practice what they preach
immediately I started laughing, considering the most usual complaint from conservatives towards progressives like me is: "snowflake, too emotional, easily offended, unable to decide based on facts and logic":-D I mean, of course I know they are projecting a lot. Thats what a person does. But its still funny hearing it from a psychiatrist.
OTOH, these may be a rough outline of counterfactuals. Or, perhaps these apply to the those self-identified liberals whose brains don't exhibit the structural liberal brain or may even have a conservative brain structure.
🎯🎯🎯💯🙏🏼 Exactly! They've been telling us for years we base everything "on emotions" LMAO... more projecting, as usual. It's one of their favorite pastimes.
Bingo!
That's why Republicans are more violent than Dems. They're scared all the time. And most of the time, anger, stems from fear.
You wouldn’t want to be informed, or “woke” according to conservatives 😅
It makes sense that brain structure has something to do with political leanings. However, environmental factors, and personal experiences should also be taken into consideration. I used to be a Republican when my first registered to vote but eventually I became more liberal in my thinking as I grew older.
Evolution!
I don't understand why conservatives are mad about this video, it says they have brains!
Lol!
+ogarzabello I love how your simple mind immediately assumed I was a liberal, and how you think it's black and white like that with the left/right brain hemisphere theory.
+ogarzabello where did you get your doctorate to give all these "facts?" I don't understand the political agenda of your comment on this video.
I'm not arguing back because I'm not interested in defending liberals or any other group for that matter, but your comment kind of proved my original point and I just wanted to point that out.
+ogarzabello why do you keep capitalizing FACTS? And please show me the empirical data gathered to back up your claims and then we can call them facts
This also squares nicely with Lakoff's "strict father" morality vs. "nurturant parent" morality in explaining people's views and beliefs and decision making.
This gave me a million more questions than answers... I have always been the kind of person who gets both sides of the concern and have a very hard time forming a personal opinion. Where does that even leave me....
you are probably centrist then
I read very early before preschool and my mother belonged to a book club that mailed out the classics on a monthly basis. I read these fiction books voraciously and even though I was very young and naive the descriptions of varying religions, politics and moral/personal behaviors influenced me in that I viewed the world around me in an open way. This viewpoint was far more inclusive because of all the variety I had absorbed in having read diverse selections of fiction.
1.6 thousand conservatives got all emotional and discounted the science.
@Jonah Engebretsen fucking preach
@123fort andbree mentally ill humans.
They cannot stop being modern conservatives
2.2 thousand 😬
How came leftist policies always fail? Kind of says which side actually looks at the data.
Links to these studies, please :)
@Who Cares? fr lol
@@Nzzertral Go to Google Scholar search and look for them you lazy bastards
@@1995yuda and go to the therapist to talk about your anger issues person who gets unreasonably angry at people for no good reason other than to make themselves feel. Better about their sad life
@@1995yuda thats not how it works.... theyr'e supposed to be cited. didn't you ever write an essay?
@@mofogie I know bro I am just tired of people who want to be spoon fed and can't make an independent effort to learn new things. If the person who was supposed to cite sources did not, you can still actively look for them. If you ever wrote an essay, than you know that investigating like a detective is really important... I am rewarded beyond my wildest dreams when it comes to discovering things I set my mind to because I seek proactively like a motherfu@ker where others give up. I was just being humorous about it, I have no idea why that dude got himself emotionally involved lmfao.
This is so interesting. I've said for years that the brain structure of conservatives and liberals has to be different and that's why it is so difficult for liberals and conservatives to understand one another. It also impacts mental-health therapy as liberals are more willing to accept new ways of looking at a problem whereas conservatives tend to shut down when new ideas and behavior patterns are suggested.
Liberalism is not an ideology. It is an inability to use logic and reason to understand how the counterintuitive nature of the universe works, so a person falls back on their emotions to reach a conclusion.
Laissez Faire economics/government are counterintuitive ideas. Laffer curve, more guns equal less crime, and peace thru strength are counterintuitive ideas.
That is why there are no successful liberal radio talk shows. It's becauseLiberals can't understand ideas, they need moving pictures or hand puppets to trigger their emotions.
They have done huge global psychological studies on humans where they asked thousands of people hundreds of questions. Liberals always show up as low in contientiousness and conservatives always show up as high in contientiousness. Meaning liberals have no intention of doing what is right or making sacrifices for the good of society.
Look up traits of narcissists, they are exactly the same as liberal politicians. Because they are both driven in total by their emotions and hatred.
Makes sense as a basic definition. Liberals go with a new trend and conservatives go with what worked in the past. Herbal medicine would be conservative, and modern medicine liberal. Sunshine conservative, D pills liberal. Talking to people with voices would be conservative, commenting on youtube liberal.
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
How would you reconcile the fact that liberals are 4x more likely to have mental health issues?
We are all sitting down to a big Christmas dinner and we are asked if we would like liberal or conservative portions...this might begin to upset the apple cart, liberal weight watchers, conservatives with big appetites, a libertarian who bring there own dessert.
The root of conservative, is conserve.
In my milieu, most self defined conservatives actually advocate for radical exploitation of resources, not conservation.
Conservatives are too close-minded, and liberals are too open-minded.
Conservatives be like: this video of new information is bs
well it really doesn't line up with other research or observable reality. for example studies show left wingers can't articulate right wing opinions but the right wing can indeed articulate left wing opinions accurately. studies also show right wingers have a more balanced media diet of left and right wing sources
@@007kingifrit According to most studies, most conservative men are homosexuals. I posted it, it is definitely true
I had to watch this incredibly interesting video twice, 'cause the first time I couldn't help but be distracted by the though "This comment section will be amusing. In a scary way."
Same but I always do this sort of thing at night
She's right on some aspects. I was a liberal, checked new info and became conservative.
Sad. You joined shit
Says Hussein
@@husseinmohammed1431 lmfao quite the opposite actually
Personally I think a brain scan is needed.
Emotions are one of humanities greatest strengths, and weaknesses.
Can you link these studies in the description please?
For most of human history, there were no labels of "liberal and conservative" nor do all human societies today. Personally, I wish we would move beyond the use of these labels.
Agreed. It's just a way to fragment and organize people for political expediency.
You nailed it
Totally agree.
well actually, these concepts originated in ancient greece, and have obviously morphed and adapted but this duality has probably existed in one form or another since humans began living in town and cities. so, probably at least 10,000 years of human history,.
Categories are useful, we use them for everything else. Why not political ideas?
I find this to validate what I have seen in my family and throughout my social network. I appreciate the suggestions about how liberals and conservatives can tap into each other's modes of thinking in order to better present their ideas.
Wait, so liberals should become fearful, hateful morons in order to get along with the fascists?
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 Try to debate right-wingers without having girly emotional outbursts or using buzzwords. You won't.
@@bunjier4041 in one comment you bash liberals, and in another, conservatives. So which one is it?
As a conservative who loves laughing at the looneys on both sides, you can criticize both.
I'd call myself 'independant' and I would 100% be on board with being part of a study about that.
Think whatever you want, just do it critically.
The 5 Steps to Critical Thinking:
What is critical thinking?
In general, critical thinking refers to actively questioning statements rather than blindly accepting them.
Critical thinking results in radical free will.
1. The critical thinker is flexible yet maintains an attitude of healthy skepticism.
Critical thinkers are open to new information, ideas, and claims. They genuinely consider alternative explanations and possibilities. However, this open-mindedness is tempered by a healthy sense of skepticism (Hyman, 2007).
The critical thinker consistently asks, “What evidence supports this claim?”
2. The critical thinker scrutinizes the evidence before drawing conclusions.
Critical thinkers strive to weigh all the available evidence before arriving at conclusions. And, in evaluating evidence, critical thinkers distinguish between empirical evidence versus opinions based on feelings or personal experience.
3. The critical thinker can assume other perspectives.
Critical thinkers are not imprisoned by their own points of view. Nor are they limited in their capacity to imagine life experiences and perspectives that are fundamentally different from their own. Rather, the critical thinker strives to understand and evaluate issues from many different angles.
4. The critical thinker is aware of biases and assumptions.
In evaluating evidence and ideas, critical thinkers strive to identify the biases and assumptions that are inherent in any argument (Riggio & Halpern, 2006). Critical thinkers also try to identify and minimize the influence of their own biases.
5. The critical thinker engages in reflective thinking.
Critical thinkers avoid knee-jerk responses. Instead, critical thinkers are reflective. Most complex issues are unlikely to have a simple solution. Therefore, critical thinkers resist the temptation to sidestep complexity by boiling an issue down to an either/or, yes/no kind of proposition. Instead, the critical thinker expects and accepts complexity (Halpern, 2007).
Critical thinking is not a single skill, but rather a set of attitudes and thinking skills. As is true with any set of skills, you can get better at these skills with practice.
In a nut shell, critical thinking is the active process of minimizing preconceptions and biases while evaluating evidence, determining the conclusions that can be reasonably be drawn from evidence, and considering alternative explanations for research findings or other phenomena.
CRITICAL THINKING QUESTIONS
>Why might other people want to discourage you from critical thinking?
>In what situations is it probably most difficult or challenging for you to exercise critical thinking skills? Why?
> What can you do or say to encourage others to use critical thinking in evaluating questionable claims or assertions?
An amygdala, not an elephant, should be the symbol of the Republican Party.
That the best you got? Conservatives have more ordered thinking. Liberals are erratic and novelty seeking
@@RAralar Wow, you didn't listen at all to new information. Congratulations, you are a conservative.
New information? You mean that 1 + 1 = 3 now?
R. Aralar you’re a coward . Enough said .
@Epstein did not kill himself
There goes that conservative habit of projection again. "Orange man bad" is such a worn out phrase spewed by 8chan drones, or those who listen to pundits who frequented that, and similar, sites. I don't care the bastard is orange. I care that he's stripping away important environmental regulations and allowing minors to pass out and die in their own vomit in detention centers. And if by Clinton you mean Bill, then no, caring that a president who was impeached 20+ years ago hung out with a pedo creep is low on my list of priorities when we have a president currently sitting in the White House who initiates contact with women by grabbing them down below without consent. Non-consensual behavior is in the same league, at least morally, as pedophilia. And I find it astounding that the same dimwitted conservative snowflakes whining "unfair" and "witch hunt" over impeaching a president for bribing a foreign leader and holding taxpayer money hostage for his own political advancement miraculously forget Clinton was impeached over nothing more than perjury for lying under oath about his sexual activities in the Oval Office. You don't believe the former is an impeachable crime, while maintaining that the latter was? Hypocrisy, pure and simple.
This should be taught before every student starts their first post-secondary education.
Great stuff.
When listening to this you also have to remember that she’s talking about fundamental personality traits not political parties.
Being a democrat doesn’t make you fundamentally liberal, etc.
I love it how she's trying so hard as to use non-pejorative adjectives, with euphemism as a not-liking-change trait vs the classical tolerance to risk & change and the confusion conflation of "information" to "inferior" (reptilian, ironically) brain or r-complex evolutionary more basic/essential
"flight or fright response"
fast food is a public health issue/ guns a public health issue. both answers are no. The issue is those who use either irresponsibly. Blaming guns for people being killed is like blaming spoons & forks for making people fat.
Ignoring how one is a matter of harm being self-inflicted and another being a matter of harming others.
the point being is we as a culture are breeding & teaching to be less and less personally responsible for our actions. We are teaching to be dependent upon a system at the expense of others, which in turn does not make those who do contribute make them want to do better for themselves, their family because in doing so you get taxed more to pay for those who dont or wont pay for themselves, easy to rob than to deal with a daily grind of a job
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donavanblue9247 That's a fancy way of saying "the way I choose to live is superior to others' way"
And no, we aren't doing that. It just may be directed in the ways YOU want them to be,
when I am dictator I will arm my police with spoons, and they will roam the streets distracting criminals from wrong doing by offering delicious treats
+thewanderandhiscomp
show me one study that doesn't associate video games with a decrease in violence that goes beyond assessing the players' mood right after playing. It's the same as with any (competitive) sport.
I probably have a huge amygdala, I lose my temper easily and act on emotion. But when I’m calm, I use my rational brain, and that’s why I’m on the left. My whole family is conservative and religious except for me.
Do conservatives seek out emotional fear somewhat like an addiction? Also, do liberals seek out logical or risk-taking emotional experiences rather like an addiction?
What are the 3 best books for a lay person on this subject?
One book that deals extensively as introduction to this topic and contains many anectdotes, stories, and examples is Robert Sapolsky's "Behave".
Brilliantly explained. Gives alot of insight & guidance for achieving better liberal/conservative communication
This is very interesting. Would you have any sources? Published papers would be useful to read
Sounds like we're talking about wise thinkers vs stubborn feelers to me. That being said, I wonder what other dimensions there are. Notably, there are authoritarian and egalitarian divisions within the right and the left - the people who want to force their life styles on to others, and those who don't.
Within that division, there is a group of frequently intelligent and compassionate people who are thought leaders that probably don't want to be political leaders, and therefore ought to be.
This explains to me why so many Conservatives remain so loyal to Trump despite the almost constant scandals, turmoil and uncivil discourse.
Fox News watch this video and figured they can scare their viewers 24/7.
“The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. The demaslave is one who listens to what these idiots have to say and pretends to believe it himself. ― H.L. Mencken
Applies to the left too. They're just too blind to see it.
@@poetryfortheinsane.1985 I am a liberal, and I agree. We need to understand that we learn and expand our understanding of life and of human potential if we honestly listen to each other, rather than go into immediate attack mode. Most people are not inherently evil, so we should not label those who differ in their worldviews as evil. We must look for the goodness inherent in most people and for what we might learn from them. However, when we have significant discourse with an individual, and realize we are dealing with a person that is significantly evil and predatory in nature, it is time to distance ourselves from that person by every means possible. We don't need to call them names, we only need to put distance between them and ourselves.
Y'all voted in an openly racist man who clearly was already actively struggling with dementia so there is absolutely zero room for the left to talk about Trump anymore.... 🙄
Thankyou for your beautiful work. Can you link the studies?
I grew up in a family whose parents made no comments about guns....but my grandparents and two of my uncles enjoyed using guns...(in their childhood they were bringing home food for the family) I am 74 therefore you see the difference in cultures. My father never owned a gun after the war but was a staunch Conservative more for financial reasons (he was very ambitious and eventually owned three businesses) and was involved in state and local politics. Obviously I thought of myself as a conservative but while I was in college I had 3 very good friends who later admitted to me they were gay......I don't understand and never will why gay marriage was so anathema to the conservatives. I was living in New England when the first school shooting took place and it seemed the "use of guns" had entered a different phase. I understand the position of both sides but more because it was a tool for the "US VS THEM" change in our culture.
Fight or flight can easily be controlled through proper training. It was because of my conservative Christian studies that I learned how to calm myself down and analyze whatever stressful circumstance I find myself in. The simple act of breathing through your nose places your body in “rest and digest”.
Weird that these brain studies are usually politically biazed "oh the liberals have more gray-matter, that means more Creative thinking ability!" While for conservatives, the amygdala being bigger means "fear junkies"
Unless they skipped biology, the size or development of the brain can come from overuse OR its functions being trained. Considering most conservatives deal with guns and majority of millitary is con. This might mean "better understanding of fear related issues" cause millitary and police have to train to go against their trigger finger instinct.
Irony: Conservatives won't take in this new information, hence will continue to assert Liberals are the emotional ones. :D
And independents will laugh at both sides for their hive mind and cult of personality. xD
@@wisdomleader85 Enlightened Centrism is just as delusional, small minded and factually correct about nothing. Fetishization of fence sitting. The only group who can claim to abide by reality, by rational thinking and compassion alike, is leftists.
@@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2 based
Makes sense in life as a whole. I can relate to that as a person who hears the right and left factions on media.
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I'll probably regret jumping into this, but....
It sounds like you have decided that your tribe has a monopoly on rationality and caring. Do you really believe that self-identification with a particular label is synonymous with willingness and ability to engage with objective reality and desire to make the world better for everyone?
If not, can you see how the way you've been engaging could easily be interpreted that way?
Where can I find the research paper?
Unfortunately Mr. Sanders the paper was deemed offensive and was subsequently banned.
I love this video for so many different reasons (besides it being a ‘new’ piece of information which makes me happy) It’s a breath of fresh air to get practical advice on how to communicate better instead of just screaming/repeating or just avoiding political topics in its entirety
So easy to intuit her political position. The flight or fight response, to me, indicates a decision-making response. Depending on the situation, either could be a rational response. The other position, to me, appeared to be based on an emotional and, therefore, not rational response.
Thanks for including the transcript!
We need to dispel the notion that Independents fall between Conservatives and Liberals. I'm an Independent because the Democratic party is too conservative.
Correct, ideology and political party are two different things. independent simply means you don't identify with a political party.
Exactly what I was thinking when she said that.
Or perhaps you're just an extreme leftist and a statistical outlier. ;)
But I agree that she doesn't seem to understand that moderate and independent are not interchangeable terms.
+m4570d0n I think he's probably just left-wing. By pretty much any standard outside the US, the democratic party is center and the republicans are right-wing. Extreme left is when you go all lenin and marx, not when you just want things like single payer healthcare, cheaper college and legalization of cannabis.
Well it is not about the vote, but about the opinions.
She doesn't speak about democrat and republican labels.
If you find Democrat party too conservative then you are in the liberal side.
Your last word proves that you are not in the middle of the scale.
sounds about right; 70% of conservatives would have _no idea_ what the hell this woman is talking about...
I'm liberal and I know she doesn't know what she's talking about
@@tdaye6978 well then you might be in the roughly 28% she did _not_ include... 🙄
WOW…I need to listen to this again. I’m processing it and right now I’m thinking….WOW!
these are great suggestions for crossing the aisle, giving everyone hope, thank you!! (and then you used the same phrase. love when it comes together. we need this - how to educate each other and actually be able to listen - more than anything.
It's a bit of a stretch, but we know that certain genes are "turned on" or "turned off" in certain situations or environments. I have to wonder if gene selection doesn't somehow take into account not just the passing on of genes, but also whether they are activated or not. Anecdotally, it seems to me that conservatives often try to create a world suited to their particular views and prejudices. They seem more comfortable in a world like human beings lived in for hundreds of thousands of years, a more tribal, more traditional and less evidenced-based world.
Conservative attitudes would have been appropriate and beneficial to human thriving for hundreds of thousands of years. The tribalism we see at play in fundamentalist christians and muslims, the amped-up hostility towards the other tribe, would have made perfect sense in small tribal societies competing for resources. We now find ourselves in a situation where this impedes human thriving. In a world where no one in power has conservative values, everyone is very quickly fed and clothed. We're at a point where we actually produce resources, and this is based on cooperation, not competition. Conservative attitudes, driven unconsciously, of course, seem to want not just to make us progress more slowly, but rather seem to want us to regress backward to a more primitive societal structure like we see in lower primates.
This view can be evidenced in almost any issue. Take abortion, where we have an overwhelming instinct to reproduce. It's literally the purpose of life. The traditional instinct is to breed. We see conservatives actually reproducing faster than liberals (cf Mike Judges Idiocracy). This is in a situation where population is driving environmental and natural resource management issues that threaten human existence. The rational, objective thing to do is to make birth control and sex education the norm and slow or reverse population growth. The smart thing for humanity to do going forward is obvious, but we see conservatives being opposed to this in every way and giving incredibly irrational reasons for their views.
The end result of this regressivism, and we can imagine this being played out throughout time on a small scale, is that we will over populate the environment, in this case, the entire world, and be reduced to barbarism and eventually revert back to an illiterate tribal society.
Even how we take in information is impacted by this liberal-conservative dichotomy. In primitive cultures, prior to written language, we would have been completely dependent on tradition being passed down. You could not google how to open a coconut. You would have only been able to get this information by it being passed down from authority figures within the tribe. Innovation would have been discouraged because there would have been a coconut opening procedure that had worked and allowed the tribe to flourish. We see this resistance to change in modern conservatives also, where they seem to be completely unwilling to judge things based on a modern world. Their opposition to gays for examples seems to harken back to a past where, to borrow from Monty Python, every sperm is sacred and where humanity needed to out-reproduce a high infant mortality rate.
The end result again of all these conservative behaviors seems to that it creates an environment that is less open, more fearful (everyone needs to armed!), more backward, less informed. In other words, it creates an environment that is suited to conservative thinking. Take conscious rationalization out of it, observe people as if they are monkeys, and see if you don't see this tendency in conservative actions to create the environment where these actions would be appropriate.
The "doubling down" almost always happens on one side of the political spectrum. What I tend to hear from the left is exactly what Dr. Satlz does here. I hear should be open and listen to each other, and conservatives have valid ideas too. Horseshit. Two plus two is four. It's not a reasonable compromise when someone says it's five to agree to four and a half. Argumentation does not work the way that the professor imagines. If we look a Roe v Wade, a Solomonic compromise between the right and the left if there ever was one, we see the left arguing the middle position, that abortion is bad but sometimes necessary, and we see the right arguing that little magic babies live in stem cells. We also see the subsequent erosion of women's rights. The left needs to _quit_ compromising with the right. President Obama has tried to do this for 8 years and has gotten egg on his face every time. The _right_ has pretty much been _wrong_ about everything for four decades. Compromising with conservatives is going to get us nuclear war and an earth too warm for human existence. We need to "double down," triple down, and be every bit as intransigent as the conservatives. It is moral cowardice to be right, correct, and then not effectively advocate for that right. If you're in a burning building and someone is advocating to throw gasoline on the fire to put it out, you don't try to have calm, reasonable discussion with them. You dismiss their input and talk amongst the reasonable people for a solution.
Gun control is a good example of this. Statistics say gun ownership makes you _less_ safe. This is simply a fact. The reason that we cannot proceed on gun control is not because both sides cannot effectively communicate. It's because the right, conservatives, cannot accept this simple _fact._ No one credible is advocating for banning guns. Guns aren't banned in Australia or the UK. They simply require a great deal more training prior to allowing private citizens to own guns. Fully automatic weapons in the US aren't banned. We simply require a great deal more training and authorization before we allow someone to own a fully automatic weapon. The right, conservatives, are simply _wrong_ on gun control, but this again gets back to argumentation. They are wrong on the facts, but they are much, much better at advocating their position, and not just because it is a simplistic one that is easy to argue. They toe the line that any kind of regulation on gun ownership is bad, and they don't compromise.
Perfectly written. Thank you!
This brickwall of text is a perfect example of the superiority complex of the left. An unarmed people, is an enslaved people. Always.
If you dont want a gun, dont own one; if you want gun control, feel free to give yourself that disadvantage, while criminals, of both common, and state-santioned variety, ignore gun control, while mugging you, or sending you to the mass grave site.
- from an anarchist.
Whats more is, there is still no actual, concrete proof of anthropogenic climate change... yet here come the regressives tearing down their own countries power grid right stupid like; even the more sophisticated coal fired plants built in the 60s with scrubbers built in...
Okej vi ankommer Air on side of caution It is too much is a risk not to
@@kimsey0000 this strikes me as the "fear-based" line of thinking the lady was talking about
Totally get this. I grew up in the suburbs with what had been a "gun", NRA family. Went to gun shows with my grandfather.
I didn't get the liberal "anti-gun" movement although I'm as left as it gets. But I became informed and now would seek a middle path
you know what they say, go far enough left you get your guns back
I believe liberals and conservatives complement each other in the ability to create stable and creative community structures. This is why we've survived this long. But when we get pulled apart by fears, that is when instability can happen.
Would love to see a link to the study.. Is it peer reviewed? And does size of the "fear" part of the brain mean a person is factually more fearful? Human body is amazing.
What I find interesting is that she stated that liberal neural structures made people more likely to accept new information and change their mind. I'm a moderate centrist who knows many people on both sides of the aisle, and has frequent conversations and debates with them. What I have found is that people who identify on the extreme left, are the most stubborn people I've ever talked to. Not only are they usually unwilling to absorb new information and reexamine their positions, they typically respond to any information that doesn't support their own ideological positions in an emotional way, forsaking rational debate to accuse the other of being racist, sexist, (insert minority group)phobic, etc. Certainly this can be true for those on the extreme right as well, which is kind of my point. Ideologically extreme people are rarely interested in having their ideals challenged, because why would you? What happens if you find out your wrong? Everything you based your life on could turn out to be bs. That's why what I'm interested in is trying to get people to recognize that being extremely ideological, regardless of the ideology itself, is inevitably going to lead people to make mistakes, ignore, or worse dehumanize people they disagree with, and generally keep their heads up their own asses all their lives....
You never talked to a real modern conservative, watched faux news or read websites like Breitbart or Infowars
Republican party was not this way in Eisenhower or Nixon times. They did not question science like they do today.
Modern leftists are ideologically left but have the mindset of conservatives who react rather than consider because the info presented is scary and enraging.
I'm extreme Left, but I rely on facts and science to help me make decisions. I have often changed my mind when new evidence was presented. For instance, at one point I thought homosexuality was a choice, but now I reject that hypothesis. Generalisms are usually flawed.
Jesse, what would their behavior look like when including the fact that a conservative point of view is not an expansion of conscious reality testing? Rather a conservative POV is predicated on a psychological split into an identity and shadow as a strategy to fit in by being unconscious patterns of behavior. The purpose of the identity/shadow split is to disconnect from conscious feedback and actual experience.
“Extreme left” lol. There is no “extreme left” in the United States, we don’t even have a major party to the left of the Overton window. Our parties are extreme AuthRight and AuthRight lite. Every “extreme leftist” you’ve ever spoken to in America is an effing right winger and belongs to an AuthRight party.
One person one vote doesn’t not really occur on a federal level in the United States. In the senate all states get two senators regardless of population. So a Wyoming voter has about 60 times the voting power in the Senate compared to a California voter. This all applies in the electoral college, although to a smaller degree, since the votes per state are the sum of the number of senators and representatives. This helps explains the difficulty in moving any meaningful progressive change in the U.S.
I had this exact same thought when she said it, and my brain immediately went to the exact same states.
"More like one person in California .65 of a vote, one person in Wyoming 1.45 of a vote."
I don't know what the actual values are, the ones I used are just an arbitary guess.
Out of curiosity (because I'm liberal) what do conservatives think about this video and the points she makes? Just looking to see other perspectives
They think it's all biased Liberal propaganda.. lol
They think all these University professors, researchers are all just biased Liberal puppets being paid by Jews to bring down western democracy..
They are far too gone.. Conspiracies all around for your typical conservative thinker..
It's mental.
lol
@@theaviationist.5719 I mean that's a little nihilistic, don't you think? You don't think there's any hope to see eye-to-eye?
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I stopped delusing myself in trying to find a common ground.. I have been trying since the Obama era 2008 - 2020 with my conservative family members. and friends.
The country is so so divided.
How can you have a serious conversation with people that have abandoned Facts, Reality, science, rationality, critical thinking, logic etc?
You tell them that Trump lost the election and they don't want to believe it..They are willing to go to war for it, they are willing to die for that lie. Tried to be as charitable during the pandemic (Covid-19) situation, constantly telling them to be a bit more empathetic to those more vaulnarable. They just labelled it all FAKE virus and would just break covid rule on puropse.
Tell Now the FBI raided trumps estate, these conservatives are calling for the FBI to be disbanded, be killed, a paranoid conservative that was also at the capitol riot took it in his own hands by attacking an FBI office before he had a shoot out with police and was killed, died for Trump..
What method are you going to use when these people have Fox News and other conservative media absolutely whipping them into a frenzy?
You try to be understanding but these Right Wingers are so far gone mentally. Nothing is real unless Trump says it is. Anything that goes against my conservative view point is either FAKE NEWS or dangerous Liberal propaganda etc..
Have you got any new communication methods that you suggest we can use to reach these Conservative / Right Wingers today? Because I have tried since the 2010 Republican TEA PARTY movement. All they are talking about is "We need a civil war. We need to exterminate all these evil, immoral p£dophile Liberals once and for all in order to save America".
What more can we do?
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