Celestia might be based off the Sky People of Honkai | Gods from elsewhere | Genshin Impact Theory
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2024
- In this video we dive into a theory about Celestia and their possible ties to the Honkai and the chance they might not be the original Gods of Teyvat. Far Fetched? Yep. Interesting? Very. If you wanna read the comics for yourselves Link below:
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After listening to this, if Celestia really is on top of Fontaine it would make sense given they are the current advanced nation in Teyvat and might be the next target. Majority of the ruins shows that Celestia is always on top of the nation that has been destroyed.
But Celestia didn't destroyed them because of how advanced they were, after all the Ruin Guards already existed before the Archon War considering Guizhong trapped some of them in a domain and she died in that war
@@ghosttrash.6955 They had technology more advanced than even ruin guards. I believe there's a threshold for what's "too advanced".
@@kinggecko503 in the white crowns artifacts that some bosses drops its the lore of some of the civilizations that existed in the past, its mentioned that they angered the gods/celestia because they where impatient and started to ask them way to many things and getting into the gods business, I think it's also mentioned that some priests entered the garden of the gods without permission, I don't remember correctly, and that kind of behavior made the gods abandon/destroying them, there's no mention of them being to "advanced"
I don’t think that its because a country has become advanced that Celestia destroyed Khae’nriah. Khaenriah might be the most advanced nation in Teyvat.
Not to be religious here but what if Khaenriah got to be like Babylon that they wanted to reach Celestia so that they can be like the gods.
@@hakobangz25 you might be into something, maybe the "veil of sin" they crossed was them trying to become gods, maybe the corruption Gold created was originally meant to give them divine power, not turn them into monsters
What if celestia is just trying to destroy civilizations so that honkai never could or would, be interested in their world? I mean it's a possibility too!
I guess its similar like gurren lagan anime.
What they don’t want is Houkai energy generating enough energy to form a Herrscher. If a Herrscher gets summoned into Teyvat as it is right now, they are beyond fucked.
I’m privy to the idea that Visions help to absorb Houkai energy, keeping it better under control.
Honkai exists in every world on the tree and gets more dangerous as the technology advances. What if Celestia is made from Herrschers that abandoned Honkai and imprison everyone that can hold Honkai energy in their body (like a certain twins can) instead of using it through visions only. Only those that can hold Honkai energy inside them can become a Herrscher and even worse get full connection to the Will of Honkai like Sirin did.
Fun fact: In the 5th Anniversary CN Honkai Impact Stream, there was one scene of them writing Flame-Chaser names, one of which was written "K.K". The Honkai Beast name written in it is not a known one so it would likely be a different Flame-Chaser
Interesting theory though, looking forward to getting more Sky People lore. Maybe Honkai Star Rail connects Honkai and Genshin someday since its starting to involve the multiverse
Isn't K.K supposed to be Kevin Kaslana?
@@lirima-hirumi probably but it's also can be initial for Kiana Kaslana or Kallen Kaslana
@@spiralspural8806 kallen is not a flame chaser
@@Retronyx yeah it's a new character
@@spiralspural8806 the “K.K” was also on the announcement of the genshin twins on twt
Teyvat is a strange world in many ways, for one the ley lines that carry the memories of those who lived in the past, the constellations that decide a person's fate, the way in which there is clearly something wrong with the sky not only based on what scaramouche was saying but also the moon not changing and the fact that there is a sky and another moon once you reach the last floor of the abyss.
Somewhat it reminds me of Disboard planet from No game no life. The chess pieces representing different elements just like it represents different species in NGNL, the world being somewhat alive and filled with a odd form of energy that only some can harness, a war between gods and lastly a supreme deity that imposes rules that everyone needs to follow or suffer consequences.
What if Teyvat is similar? A god that long ago managed to win the throne that allowed them to decide the destiny of everyone in Teyvat and set rules for everyone to follow? They imposed heavenly principles as a way to keep the world safe from Honkai. Maybe even isolated the world from rest of the universe with some kind of barrier which is the fake sky, heck maybe Teyvat follows the hollow earth theory and all nations exist inside the planet and the outside is where gods of Celstia battle Honkai for all I know.
Also I've seen several theories before saying that the 'Demiurge' is dead. Maybe that's the reason the ley lines seem to get more unstable as time is progressing, it might be even the reason Archons had to be chosen to help stabilize the world and reinforce the laws made by the Demiurge now that he is not longer there to manage everything. The gods of celestia are desperate to maintain the laws left behind by the supreme god using every possible method or maybe it was always like this. Every time a civilization become too advanced they destroyed it but now with the Demiurge no longer there to enforce the law they use Archons to do it for them by either stalling the civilization development or outright destruction.
Maybe the throne of havens is empty and the Archons know that, Tsaritsa wants to pull a Aizen and change the dying system.
I am most likely wrong, it's just something I come up on the spot, as someone who is obsesed with the Honkai and Genshin lore I always think about this sort of things.
I just wanna say your use of anime analogy is spot on and amazing.
For me Celestia is the Demiurge in Genshin and they are harvesting elemental energy and worship while trying to keep the Honkai from triggering.
The 3 moons sisters are the original Gods of Teyvat:
Maiden: Paimon who is also the source of the Seelies, she likely without even knowing brainwashes normal people into thinking it's normal to see a floating person
Mother (welking waifu): The night mother of the abyss who brainwashes and nurtures the abyss order, killed by current Celestia.
Crone: Madame Ping most likely either pretending to be an adepti or with lost memories like Paimon, she is on Liuye because at least one major entrance to the underworld is in Liyue, thus being the only character and location (so far) that fits the role of the Crone
Also Dainsleaf is likely using Honkai energy as the Herald said that he feels a familiar corruption from him, but it is a threat outside of the Abyss and so must be destroyed.
In Honkai there's another layer under the Sea of Quanta which can only be described as abyss. There's something down there despite the fact of it being impossible for anything to survive there for long. Su's pocket dimension passed the Sea of Quanta and entered the abyss which he was surprised but he was shocked by a voice.
@@Alik_Odess that pocket dimesnion could be teyvat
I swear if we get to see Otto Apocalypse in Teyvat, (or some form of him under a different name) I'm gonna flip.
Otto in Genshin already existed actually, the golden alchemy is Otto in genshin universe.
He make destruction every thing
He might have been Gold
Go and listen to Itto’s teaser.
@@zelktheinvader7874 nope, most likely Ayato at this point now
@@otteration9891 I guess so. Since now we know Gold is a women and Ayato shares Otto's VA in all languages
the song choice at the end... oh boy, i lowkey got chills. i'm so excited to see how far the honkai & genshin connections go. my own personal theory connecting them is that albedo might be teyvat's kiana in some way because of how many similarities i found between the characters lol.
Both clone
I’m expecting Assassin’s Creed style Archon Quests on Fontaine and Snezhnaya.
steampunk would be nice
@@mieyy-w6x like Assassin’s Creed: Syndicate
Or it could be that Celestia is the one trying to keep the Honkai away by destroying advanced civilizations. Also "K.K".... Hmmm based on the text on their character card, it sounds like something that Kevin would say. It's probably Kevin Kaslana or Kiana Kaslana.
oh very interesting!!! i think maybe it is as you say in the beginning, Celestia people are just for themselves trying to farm energy and having lied about everything. I just can't see them yet as the good guys, that they're trying to avoid destruction of this world.
buuuut I'm the person that doesnt see archons as gods, rather just very strong beings, to me they're more like defenders of the planet, scattered around. they do aid humanity from very early times and I feel they intended good for it, even if not always right or moral. there's still the cutting ties to Celestia to consider that gives me strong vibes they are bad and that archons slowly layed low and complied over centuries despite the tragedies, which were probably eye opening, to avoid any sort of danger from these beings maybe. still unsure what tsaritsa is doing, because the actions are questionable(& getting the gnosis and letting these harbingers - none of them looking very sane tbh - handle them might just bring the demise for them and humanity), but it makes me wonder why the rest are not actively doing something. zhongli and venti chose to become dead for people while Ei oppressed progress in fear of "divine punishment". did they think this was best in order to save their respective cities from Celestia? makes the theory that Celestia are here to harvest energy more plausible than they trying to protect the world(unless they're the extreme type of protectors that rather nuke one civilization to protect the rest, which is...terrible).
side note I also believe the double naming is from Celestia. I think their archon names are given by them while the names they use for themselves might be their actual name(but that's just my theory, I'm curious if there's a chance this might be the case).
Anway in genshin already have "Otto Apocalypse"
The golden alchemist is otto in genshin universes
And looking new monster on genshin, it's kinda familiar to honkai beast
What if the Travelers are scouts for the Sky people? That would explain why the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles wouldn't want them leaving. If they left they would tell the other Sky people about Teyvat and then they would be invaded.
This was actually what i thought after discovering what celestia is said to be “that screams Sky People” I remember thinking…
If truly Sky ppls total rip To Teyvat. Make huge sense why all archons are scared of them.
We don't have much about 'K.K', but I can tell you they aren't Kevin, Kallen or Kiana. In CN 5th anniversary live stream, K.K's name was shown along with Kalpas, and K.K seems to be another MANTIS. At first ut might seem like Kevin, but in the stream it was shown that K.K's genes were different from Kevin. Kevin was fused with Parvati genes, K.K was fused with Brahma genes
Great theory as always! I think it’s a plausible theory and we know MiHoYo’s tendency to mix character and game lore with each other. Looking forward to the upcoming storylines!!
I think after APHO 2 we will know more about sky people. After reading alien space my first thought was, celestia is like skypeople. For me celestia is someone who ensure that will of honkai not arrive. What if khaenriah people are survivors from civilization that lived on surface and it got destroyed by honkai or something similar, so than with every technology that they had they build arc ( tayvat) inside of planet, when we go in some domains and abyss we se devastated world and something like castle and moon with stars, could it be that spiral abyss is actually old passage from surface to insade
Honkai technologies are not too advanced yet for invasion and perhaps Honkai god hasn't found the world call "Teyvat "
@@saimyintmyat9373 honkai god is one who is master of "Tree" he must know everything
@@AdGuGeHo Hmm 🤔. May be the fake sky in genshin halting them to come I think.
@@saimyintmyat9373 it's what everyone think, if we consider that fist throne of celestial and second are spaceships from project arc, I think, than they could come from world devastated by honkai and then they, Celestia, protecting teyvat with fake sky.
@@AdGuGeHo yeah that make sense.
🌸❤️It is my hope that we have proper Genshin/Honkai impact crossover, within Genshin Impact this time, rather than Honkai Impact❤️🌸
Probably a good theory to analyze about the connections and parallelisms between Honkai and Genshin. I really wonder tho who is the original creator of Teyvat (aside from being ruled by the Three moon goddeses)
The Imaginary Tree more than likely.
Most likely the Imaginary Tree
Project Ark = Primordial One = Vill-V
I love your videos the most
i really hope that honkai and genshin are not connected by the same cataclysm but with different names, im so tired of honkai players going "BUT LISTEN WELL THIS IS JUST LIKE......"
This actually makes sense!
After I done the enkonomiya story quest this theory is in my mind
Exceptions.... an Enemy of Eternity
I love kursgetan or something
I wonder who is that "K.K" was.
Is it Kevin Kaslana?
Or
Kiana Kaslana?..
Kiana Kaslana probably? Maybe the ending of Honkai will tell us but it could be Kevin since he has a son technically... but named Adam.
It’s either Kiana, Kevin or Kallen
@@ArlunGrim K.K is the flamechaser in previous era 50k years ago before kiana was born
@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 500 years of Kallen was not that much of really technology advancement yet.
@@saimyintmyat9373 I almost had a stroke trying to read your comment
About the arc theory it went missing basically right after it launched like they had no signals left and it is assumed that it fell into the sea of quanta which would qualify it to be a possibility for the source of the genshin world or the travelers at least
afaik based on what I see atleast with the way Honkai world building is built, it's not that easy to leave the universe, unless you're extremely powerful like the Sugars who are capable of staying in a higher dimension thanks to their Alien Key. Even Otto and Kevin, 2 of the most powerful people in the Honkai lore can't just leave the universe on a whim, even Schickshal with all their technology, needed powers like the Herrscher of the Void to even attempt dimensional experiments, Su needed the 2nd Divine Key (Which is also based off the Herrscher of the Void's powers) to even trap Kevin in the Sea of Quanta and simply look at the multiverse. And I might be wrong here but Honkai Star Rails is the only time they were actually able to do dimensional travel with the 2nd Divine Key in canon. Ofcourse I don't claim to be an expert in Honkai lore and I might be wrong. But yes the possibility is still there, I just don't think its a high chance.
@@ArlunGrim Kevin has the ability to rip through dimensional spaces and open a portal through the Sea of Quanta with ease without using any Technology.
Currently, in Elysian Realm future updates in 5.6 it is hinted that it has something to do in his genes with his final form called the "Cosmic Deliverance" that lets him have access in the Sea of Quanta easily and eventually traverse the multiverse if he feels like it.
Thats why K.K both exist in Honkai and Genshin in the travellers' introduction😳
Love ur content
love this theory!
I personally think that Genshin and Honkai are two completely separate stories. So this theory to me just seems like a fun idea.
Well… they aren’t. Technically. Both exist in the same universe, both are different universes on the Imaginary Tree. Houkai Energy exists in both worlds. Separate worlds/universes, but both are VERY much connected to one another.
No bc the sky people do be looking like that panel in the genshin manga, wait what exactly are the sky people? Humans? From before the third era of human civilization?
They are known as Predator of the stars, The Hunters of the Seas. They are a race who will stop at nothing to farm and harvest all kinds of energies in the multiverse. Even in Honkai, their true form hasnt been revealed yet. But theres only one clear answer, they are one of the biggest threat in the multiverse aside from honkai.
Maan sky people are like Scrin the aliens from command and conquer, harvesting resources that can destroy civilization
I thought of the twins as sky people
This is the theory branch i neeD
*sustainer of heavenly principles:* harvest you say.
(Bugging me about the harvest of sustainers dialogue.) 🤔
maybe traveler is the sky people? This is a biggg stretch but I think it would be cool if lumine regained memory and is trying to destroy celestia to harvest teyvat’s Honkai energy. Anyway great video!!
sky people are not human
Sky people are not human, they are alien who invaded other planets to gather honkai energy
Sky ppls are mechanical robots.
maybe they're on top on fontaine bc they're on their way to snezhnaya to destroy it
Then Enkanomiya drops and this theory becomes WAY more plausible... :0
"Gods of elsewhere" this title aged well.
Plot twist : teyvat is inside avalon
Could you start covering Honkai impact lore
I do think they are different, just connect to the imaginary tree, but when i found oout the genshin was supposed to be named honkai 4th, wouldn't that be a bit sus? I mean they wouldn't just changed the game genre for a title.
What if you look below honkai impact? And something huge is down there
K.K = Kevin Kaslana
Oh wait sorry. Ke🅱in Kaslana.
Correction. Kebin Kasrana
keBin
K.K is not kevin
the reason why sky people don't attack earth is because of HERRSHERS. specially rebel herrshers and serpents he power of a certain herrsher which is HOV. that's why they don't want to attack honkai impact's main story line and universe. they need humanity to destroy honkai first and let the former herrshers to become week or lost there power,. before they invade the earth which is what happened to APHO. because in APHO, Mei still have Her herrsher power but only a small part. also bronya. so they are not as strong as they are before.
I noticed that the monsters or so called honkai beasts are not the same to what we used to see in the main storyline tho i cant think of any explaination its a bit confusing to why they changed color schemes and designs
This is my theory about Celestia and Teyvat which most probably impossible to happen.
Celestia is just Hyperion, Kanchou's base of operations, after he finished his mission in the Sea of Quanta. He slowly but surely absorbs honkai energy in the Hyperion with Rosemary helping him because she's apparently an entity of higher order and has the same power as the Captain. He made a device that can control honkai energy, just like Hyperion was made to sail in the Sea of Quanta and the manifestation of his power because of his consciousness mapping. He chose a few compatible beings to be infused with honkai energy (just like Mobius but instead of Honkai beasts, it's honkai energy) to serve as guardians of Teyvat, hence creating archons, which are pseudo-herrschers, to protect Teyvat in case a Judgement-class or Vipralopa-class honkai beasts pops out. Visions are weak but concentrated honkai energy, safe enough for the people to use, to protect themselves. He created the Unknown God to be the guardian of whole Teyvat from outsiders. The archons are in control of their powers because the will of the Honkai is not strong due to Teyvat's civilization.
The Archons look the same as the valkyries of Honkai because the Captain misses his valkyries back in his old world, yes.... Also Zhongli... nah. It's impossible to be Li Sushang because he never met her in his world but probably in other bubble universes.
The reason why Khaenri'ah was destroyed by Celestia was because Khaenri'ah's civilization is growing rapidly and if it continues, the will of the honkai will start to get stronger making it hard to fight and control. The Unknown god does not let any outsider from another universe enter Teyvat to prevent another Khaenri'ah because there's a good chance that an outsider influenced or rather helped them into developing advanced technologies forcing Celestia to destroy it to prevent honkai from getting strong.
TLDR: Celestia is Hyperion. Captain made archons. Khaenri'ah was destroyed to prevent honkai from getting stronger.
what the fuck did i just read
...skaicru
(no reason mentioning it; i just think it's funny)
(K.K.) kiana kaslana?
Nah. The ark happened 50k years ago.
No , K.K Is not kiana nor Kevin nor Kalpas
an entire different character
🌸❤️I know not who these “Sky People” are, as I never made it far betwixt Honkai Impact’s tale, but it shall be quite riveting to find out to some degree❤️🌸
Dose it make sence? Yes.
Do I like it though? No.
I've never been a bug fan of 'Celstia are aliens' or theory's like that. They apsolutly have some ground, I think I'd just be fustraighted or disappointed if that turns out to be the case.
It clashes with the entire magical and mystical asthetic of Genshin and feels a little like a cop out???
Idk, I just don't like the flavour it would add. Might just be me though??
Well the future progress of storyboard writing of multiverse has already been planned out by Mihoyo/Hoyoverse even before Genshin was created.
Well I'm still believe Genshin are one of bubble universes. Two game are still connected
no shit
The unknown god that try to catch aether and lumine is their mom. I am serious.
I believe that it is somewhat linked to greek mythology. Primordial deities
Nyx the goddess of the Night.
Erebus the god of darkness
Hemera the daughter of Nyx and Erebus, goddess of the day.
Aether the son of Nyx and Erebus, god of light .
Nyx is often portrayed in symbolism as a moon or stars.
Aether is often portrayed in symbolism as a sun.
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Ancient people use stars as guide to locate their destination.
Seelie are the stars.
Unknown god is Kiana.
no
Nah, The unknown god just want to punish the twin for running around the world without permission
@@yukiahiroyuki3617 sounds like a mom they’re just being grounded
First?
I spent way to much money on honkai
Everyday I struggle not to spend too much xD
@@ArlunGrim played honkai since maybe late or early 2016/2017 and to date I've dropped let's say 5 digits and then I got bored 😴 and stopped playing