Sound Like Black Sabbath | Without Busting The Bank
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2016
- Sound Like Black Sabbath - Without Busting The Bank
Watch Rabea Massaad and Matt Hornby attempt to sound like your favourite artists on a budget using the most accurate but affordable gear they can find from Andertons Music Co.
In this episode they attempt to sound like one of the founding fathers of metal, Tony Iommi!
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Here's the gear they chose:
Epiphone Ltd Ed Tony Iommi SG Custom - bit.ly/2cP2h1a
Laney Tony Iommi 15w Valve Combo - bit.ly/2cNTRTI
Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra Drive Pedal - bit.ly/2c7JafX
Boss RV6 - bit.ly/2cP1LA9
EHX Screaming Bird - bit.ly/2cgHLkO
Gibson SG Standard P90 HiPerf 2016 - bit.ly/2cmuiYa
I think black sabbath deserves a sounds like by busting the bank
Philip Repp or john birch
Honestly the only reason they probably don't is because their sound is pretty simple. However their simplicity is part of the appeal. No b.s to hide behind , just ripping heavy riffs
I don't think there is much point. They got there without busting the bank. What should they do now? They could switch the guitar and amp for bigger, more expensive equivalents, but it wouldn't really change the sound.
@Philip Repp and get a ti treble booster or a Dallas rangemaster treble booster
Custom SG that's tuned down, cranked stack, dallas rangemaster, use volume knob to switch between clean and distorted sound
I met Iommi some years back and mentioned his signature pickups to him because it was the very first pickup I ever purchased. He had no clue what I was talking about, his manager buddy had to remind him of what I was talking about. Actually, it sounded as though he really didn't have anything to do with it, more like he just signed a paper and *POOF* it was made. Really sweet guy though. Him and Chris Broderick are the nicest guitarist I've met to date.
lolll
Well which signature pickups did you mention? He’s done 3 different versions of them, only 1 series actually claims he had designed them.
he mentions them a lot in interviews, as he even likes to know what kinds of people buy them and he likes to say jazz players like the pickups, maybe he calls them differently or something, to a guy that has signature everything, sure he would forget stuff
@Katrina S Wow, that was a rabbit hole. I never realized that SD El Diablo Custom Shop pickup I have was originally known as an Iommi, and was designed in conjunction with Tony Iommi. Neat. Great pickup btw, ultra high output but very articulate.
Signature humbuckers, pretty odd for a guy whose entire sound was based on p90 single coil pickups. That's what his first SG had and used on at least the first album. Latter custom made pickups were based on p90s, afaik.
I like all the pretend running about as if you weren't just gonna go straight for the Epiphone Tony Iommi signature.
Iv watched a few of these pair..and what drives me mad is every artist they do that goes straight into the amp ie Angus. They keep putting drive pedals in front..Tonys modern laneys have the gain built in.....why use a fukin distortion pedal...
@@Mr75044 because they don't want to only sell the guitar and amp, they're salesmen they'll sell you as much as they can, if they could add signature fingertips to the sale they probably would!
@@troublingleaf It also gives people an idea of what to do if they're trying to get the tone without buying an entire amp, which is probably what most people are here for.
@@jimjambananaslam3596 fair comment
Kinda late but honestly seeing sabbath live on their last 2 tours Tony's tone is much thicker and a bit more modern sounding than their first few albums which they were going for. The sabra cadabra is built to mimic his old laney and treble boost sound so if it does a good enough job of replicating that as I've read I can see why they wouldn't just use his recent combo
Why not ever sound like the bassist? Geezer Butlers bass tone is just as iconic.
All hail Sir Geezer!
Precision bass, something that'll sound like his signature head and cabinet, and his signature wah
William Allison Also, finger playing close to fretboard and you got it
agreed
They've included sounding like the bassist for some bands in this series
Would love to hear sounds like Sleep or sounds like Electric Wizard, something along those lines! Would be awesome!
Oh yeeeah
Electric Wizard! We succeeded with Mastodon. Definitely Electric Wizard!
Well Electric Wizard or Sleep would be quite easy wouldn't it? 1- get a heavy duty detuned Gibson (SG for EW, LP for Sleep); 2- Get a 150W+ amp and run it with everything cranked; 3- play a killer riff as slow as you can
That'd just get a sort of basic bitch stoner tone though wouldn't it? You want to also get that really amazing clarity that Sleep have if you're doing Matt Pike or the really dirty metal fuzz if it's Jus Osborn and Liz Buckingham. Would be good to get pointers on how to really nail that sort of sound so I could maybe try and implement elements of it in my own sound. For example I'd say an EQ pedal would be awesome for Sleep. Would help get the balance of tone he has from running two heads with everything full and four more giving out a more high mid overdrive sound. But personally I wouldn't have a clue how to set it up lol.
I think it could be more interesting to do a band like Dead Meadow honestly. Those guys have such a good tone and use a bit of delays and other stuff (not much though). I think that kind of valve break delicate territory is sometimes hard to consistently nail. But is the base of a lot of cool stuff
Sound like John Petrucci.
Sound like Buckethead
Sound like Gary Moore
yesss
They did Gary Moore.
Niek Busch Thanks for letting me know, haven't seen that one.
Buckethead ! Going to see him next week
John Petrucci! And Alex Lifeson
I liked Matt's rhythm rig way better this time. That P90 SG sounds killer!
Check out Pete townsend live at Leeds SG with p90s Hywatt Stacks.... the
The p90 SG is the true original sound of Sabbath
To be honest, if you add the rhythm guitar, why not the bass if you want a thicker sound? Geezer is as vital to the sound as Iommi is and that would give a better representation in my opinion. Obviously for a two guitar band you'd go for them both, but in the case of a bass and guitar, why not both?
The SabbraCadabbra actually has a treble booster as part of its design.
Right the range is the rangemaster treble boost
Sound Like Gary Clark Jr. Please!
They already did it I think
They did!?
I only remember Andertons reviewing his signature Casino...
The Casino or the SG or the Tele tunes?
back in middle school everybody was into kiss...i didnt even know who they were..i was so into black sabbath..
And then you heard Kiss and missed Sabbath!
Steven Holt you weren’t missing anything. Besides maybe Lick it Up, Kiss are just a pop band with guitar riffs.
@@JosephWheeler14 I wish we had some pop with guitar on the radio now, it's all computers farting, you have to search if you want half decent music now!
Tony Iommi Lick It Up is easily one of their worst songs.
Tony Iommi Black Diamond, Strutter, 100,000 Years, Parasite, Cold Gin, Deuce, Watching You, Detroit Rock City, Creatures of the Night. Good songs.
Fact: Tony Iommi's earliest work, up until the Black Sabbath album, was made with a Strat.
J Maxey the black sabbath album was their first album
They mean Iommi pre-Sabbath.
Sam Towse
He means earth dumbass
(+Maxey) Don't forget Wicked World! The only Sabbath song to be able to use his strat before it broke.
More than just Wicked World. The song Black Sabbath.
YEEEESSSSSS now PLEASE do Alice in Chains!! i absolutely love these videos, thanks guys!!
Alice in Chains would be epic 🎸🎸🎸
That would be amazing
yeah man, go for AiC
seconded!
yaaas
loveless 25th anniversary coming up soon. would be great to go a Kevin Shields sounds-like in honor of the best shoe gaze album of all time.
shoegaze
good
pick one
Pick any shitty guitar with a whammy bar any shitty amp. Tons of reverb, tons of fuzz and tons of well timed delay with shitloads of layers
holy fuck....
My all time favorite band, by far!! Great job gentlemen!
You guys should do sound like Jerry Cantrell
Sound like Rush. It'd be cool to actually do a sounds like Geddy Lee.
TIs a mix of both, one will not sound exactly the same without the other
Its hard to nail alot of the sounds that are done because of the gear and the very unique techniques these artists have. That's part of the reason its called sounds like, because its very hard to get the actually same sound.
It's also his gear. Geddy with a Rickenbacker sounds different than Geddy with his Wal. Also, in his Rickenbacker days he used his bass in two channel mode, running each pickup to a different set of amps and signal chains. He's been a real gear head over the years.
For Alex: Grab whatever Blackstar you can get a hold of, gain channel, gain somewhere between 9 and 12 o'clock. Throw your favorite overdrive, one of the many Electric Mistress clones, and a Wah in front. Plug in a Les Paul or 335 and you're off to the races. Play with pickup choice and guitar volume to find clean tones, flip on the Electric Mistress when it needs to be swishy. (I find that for much of the 70s era stuff you can almost leave the Mistress turned on all the time if you set it for a subtle flange.)
I don't think anyone in Britain has heard of Rush
During Paranoid, I honestly think Matt had a better Iommi tone than Bea.
Me too, the red SG straight in the amp sounded A LOT better ... maybe more fuzz made it closer to iommi's tone (well I wouldn't be sure, in first albums his tone was 'dryer' than this) but to me it's better an open, dynamic, overall good sound rather than a sound more similar to what you want but too compressed and overall worse (besides, to add a slight fuzz you could even just turn down tone knob on Guitar)
Matt was using a Gibson man, and with p90s
+Epicusername0412 You're right, I should have seen that, but still I believe a booster would have been better than the sabbra cadabra... A pity we didn't hear The epiphone straight into the amp, so that we could actually know...
Yeah, I also blame the Sabbra Cadabra, I have the feeling it was built for bigger cabinets... It sounds like the tone is being squeezed through the 1x12... And altough boosters tend to sound bit better with small speakers than OD pedals I would love to hear those pedals through a 4x12
+Epicusername0412 I strongly agree with that, sometimes overcompression may be a good thing if the amp/speakers are capable to deliver that punch and that amount of fuzz... An example is given by many stoner doom bands, in particular Electric Wizard
The ssbbara cadabara pedal already covers the treble boost
They probably know that. But they are trying to sell gear haha. I’m a huge black sabbath fan and am contemplating a signature sg. So these guys probably woulda fooled me into more than just the sabbara cadabra pedal.
That P90 SG sounds incredible!
sound like sunn o))), sleep, kyuss or boris with busting the bank.
You can't ha.
boris for sure
FUCK YEAH
Shit bands
For Sunn, Sunn amps, LP. Sleep, Green amps, LP. Kyuss throw a blanket over your cab roll the tone knob off. Boris Orange and LP.
SOUND LIKE THE WHO, THE SMITHS, THE CURE AND MICK RONSON
Exactly my thoughts.
I say do sounds like the Who, but also include the Entwistle bass sound!
For Mick Ronson, Les Paul, Marshall DSL 40 Combo, Standard Cry Baby Wah
Pete Townshend has used Strats, Rickenbackers, Teles, SG's, Les Pauls, You name it! he has a Signature Les Paul Deluxe but that's way over budget!
Definitely do entwistle too
All at once????
Bea "so Matt what are you using?"
Matt "yes"
Bass and Drum part
·Geezer Butler
-Butler uses Lackland PJ. You can get a similar tone with Yamaha BB734 wich has active electronic (Geezer has a EMG signature set) or if you want the exact oldy tone, a Fender Standard P bass. Geezer also played other basses, but that was not the rule. The pickup configuration depends of the song
-Laney is THE Sabbath amp since the begining of times. The RB3 combo is a good choice. Set it with a warm and agressive tone, low mids and powerfull bass and treble. A little gain
-Of course, a MXR Bass Envelope
·Bill Ward
-Just your standard drum set with double pedal and at least two rack toms. Wooden snare
-Paiste is a good cymbal choose, PST 7 series
Sounds like The Smiths' charming guitarist Johnny Marr!
Step 1: Be Jesus
Step 2: Pick up Guitar
The10000lbGorilla Step 3: buy a capo
yesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been advocating for this for months now!
Desmond Teague Same here! Got OVER 100 likes on both comments two times and they still haven't done one! Some Brits they are!
The first two Black Sabbath records (including Paranoid), are in standard tuning.
good job! and what a lovely red sg, beautiful.
We need a Sound Like The Cure. Maybe with a bass cameo???
Sound like Iron Maiden Somewhere in time
They already did Iron Maiden
they did without busting the bank, but you can do By busting the bank
he said "somewhere in time" which is a totally different tone (better)
Rodrigo Simoes Yeah I realized it after I replied. But as ***** said, they could bust the bank this time.
yeah that would be great
Great sound but two small points of critizism: 1) I would really have liked to hear what could have been done with just the amp alone and 2) Since they are a one-guitar band with an iconic bassist as well it would have been a little more authentic and also cool to also do a sounds like Geezer Butler...
Other than that, I do love the series and this episode very much!
sound like Tony iommi by busting the bank
and a Geezer Butler bass rig with a lakland P bass as well as his signature ashdown bass head and a cabinet and the signature wah
Kind of the same as this only bigger amp tbh. Iommi doesnt really use a lot of fancy pants gear
@@neilpatrickhairless nah, while this little TI signature amp is a nice amp for the money, it is NOT comparable to the laney la100 or the LA30 even. Thats why they "blend" the sabra cadabra with the amp: because thats actually a preamp pedal with a range master treble boost circut in it.
That being said: the Iommi by busting the bank Rig would just be the Laney LA100 with the laney greenback box, the laney ti sig booster and an Gibson SG with P90s. Thats basically as expansive as it gets when going for Iommi.
$1200 for everything is busting the bank?
The Sabbra Cadabra has a built in Naga Viper treble booster circuit. The Sabbra Cadabra is basically a Laney Supergroup head with a modified Dallas Rangemaster treble booster. It's Iommi in a box. I own one and love it.
Sound like Judas Priest?
They have already done 1/2 of the British metal big 4 so why not make it 3/4. And we need a Motörhead version too.
Or the original Horror Punks The Misfits. But trying to get a guitar close enough to an Oktober Annihilator and Doyle's tone would be quite a challenge.
Col.CheeseWaffle The II very true!
How about sounds like Wayne Newton, Hey cousin Larry, its' Wayne Newton, Vegas here I come!
They forgot a delay pedal, Toni used like, really quick delay during solos
I second this. It became more prominent on 80's albums, but he has used delay earlier aswell.
What about a ring modulator? I know that he at least used that on the Paranoid solo
Yeah it's definitely used a bit on Master of Reality.
He also had a fuck ton of delay on for the intro of Fries Wear Boots.
Perhaps a wah would have been nice too for Electric Funeral
Yes! I have been waiting for this!
A treble booster over the Sabra Cadabra was massive overkill. Good to see you lads worked that out pretty fast. They based the Sabra Cadabra solely on a modified Dallas Rangemaster, and Tony's Laney supergroup stack preamp. I went even cheaper with my rig: an LTD Viper 400, Ehx Op amp big muff, and Ehx Canyon for reverb/delays running through a Peavey VK100 212 combo. I get pretty damned close with it, but the Sabra Cadabra would be icing on the cake.
Sound Frank Zappa or Mahavishnu orchestra!!
hahaha Matt will have his work cut out for him trying to be the backing band
Pretty good guys. How about sounds like Megadeth, I dare you ;-)
Rust in Peace era.
Ive been saying the same thing
YESSSS
Jackson+Marshall turn the mids up instead of scooping them.
Good idea!
The clock hands in the background are an upside-down cross at the intro with Ironman. So metal.
Sound like Fast Eddie from Motörhead!
Wish they do that!!
GTG 666 I prefer Phill Campbell, though Eddie was great too
GTG 666
And also Lemmy!
GTG 666 i
rip :(
No detuning and laying down some Vol 4/Sabotage riffs? :(
Maybe you could do a part 2 of this "Sounds like" with these less "obvious" Tony Iommi tones, would be interesting.
Great video, though, sounded really good. Cheers.
Ok, Zeppelin and Sabbath. Now complete the holy trinity and do Deep Purple next!
Sabbra Cadabra was a song title from their Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album.
Anyway, thanks for cover I.g the guitarist that got me interested in playing guitar waaaay back when!
That Epi guitar got you about 90% of the way to Tony's sound!
Thanks again, guys, great work!
I really appreciate these videos! Gives me some knowledge on guitars & distorion etc., and I really want to learn how to play guitar, so it makes me happy that I can watch these videos!
Wasn't a sabra cadabra modeled on a Laney with the catalinbread treble booster circuit?
The Sabbra Cadabra is a custom-tuned Rangemaster-based booster combined with the pre-amp section of a Laney Supergroup
right, it uses their naga viper circuit? Same one they use in the brian may queen type pedal
Yep. I'm kinda curious how the rig would change if they went with the LP with P90's and just the Sabbra Caddabra + Amp.
Thanks for finally getting to Sabbath dudes!!!! Can we get a deep purple and Cliff Burton soon?
Loved that P90 SG sound. Awesome
Tony actually played a 'Strar while recording the first 'Sabbath album. However, after the 'Strat suffered a blown pickup halfway through, he switched to his backup instrument--the 'SG--and it's been his primary guitar ever since.
sound like the smashing pumpkins! please.
Would you ever do a Sound like Jon Fratelli or Coheed and Cambria?
Coheed would be great.
Yes, Coheed!
Coheed, yes!
C and C!
Would be so down for a Coheed video!
Awesome!!! Thanks guys!! First listened to sabbath in early eighties at school...
This video was so epically satisfying. I was hoping they'd mention the Sabbra Cadabra
Sounds like King Buzzo.
- YES PLEASE !!!
Sounds like KARNIVOOL! I Know you wanna do it!
Absolutely love watching Bea play, you can see he’s loving every second of it!
Great video, as per usual. Your video making techniques are a big influence to me. They look and sound nice and are edited very well.
Sound like SLAYER!
Sound like buckethead please :D
it's not possible though
They'd have to get rid of the "Without Busting The Bank" part ;)
Id still like to see them try though :P
THIS is among my most fave videos. Love it.
I was watching some random videos and I just glance at the recommended videos and this is there.
my heart stopped
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
make a sound like Eddie Van Halen please
can you do sound like megadeth or marty friedman?
got a marshall code 50 for my garage, changed the speaker, still just ok. buying the bassbreaker combo to replace it. thx for all the bassbreaker love. great recommendation.
this is one of the best content in YT, Really great job!!
First part to sounding like black sabbath is crosses. Crosses everywhere!
I'd love a Sound like Periphery next :)
The Sabbra Cadabra has a treble booster built in, it's controlled by the *Range* knob (name of that control is inspired by Tony's famously modded Dallas Rangemaster).
after All these years, it is still one of my favourite video
Sound like Grateful Dead! :)
Sound like ALICE IN CHAINS, PLEASE!!!
The Sabbracadabra pedal is actually a Laney supergroup circuit clone in a box with a Dallas Rangemaster treble booster clone in a box together. Its a very awesome pedal.
Awesome video again guys ive been trying to get a sabbath tone and this was really helpful. Might have to give a sabbra cadabra a try
Do a sounds like for Wolfmother
Sounds like Buckethead would be really cool
What do you call a man with a spade on his head ? :)
Ah clever.
Seriously though it'd be pretty cool to see a sounds like Buckethead video.
ALSO. Big fan of Bea. :)
seconded
I DOUBT IF THAT WILL EVER HAPPIN, HE'S GOT SKILLS BUT HE'S PROBLY TOO OBSCURE FOR MOST PEOPLE, THEY ONLY DO SOUNDS LIKE VIDEOS ON ARTISTS OR BANDS THAT HAVE SOME LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL SUCCESS, BUT IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE BUT THE BASE OR FOUNDATION OF THE TONE WOULD BE LES PAUL INTO A MARSHALL AND AN OVERDRIVE MAYBE, THEN WHATEVER CRAZY PEDALS HE USES
WHEN THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO RETIRE THE MARSHALL DSL40 I WANTED THEM TO GIVE IT A PROPER SEND OFF AND SUGGESTED THEY DO A VIDEO WHERE THEY SEE HOW MANY BANDS THEY COULD SOUND LIKE WITH IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE COOL JUST TO SEE HOW VERSATILE OF AN AMP IT IS FROM GUYS WHO PLAY MAYBE BLUES UP TO METAL BANDS, DONT THINK PEOPLE REALLY USE MARSHALL AMPS FOR THE CLEAN TONES
wow, you two have both of recent March purchases (happy birthday presents to myself)....i got the Iommi model sent to me by AMS and i went out and bought the 66 reissue at Guitar Center..they both play like a dream...now i want to play (or sound) like Iommi...
great video! thanks for uploading!
Nailed it!
Sound like Thin Lizzy?
Vivian Campbell when he was playing for Dio?
you two are having too much fun!! excellent video! Thank you!
There's something really beautiful about the fact Tony wrote these crushing, catchy riffs that any beginning guitarist can thrill themself playing AND his signature gear isn't expensive, exclusive shit but really solid and reasonably-priced gear that is again in the reach of most beginners.
(Plus listening to Sabbath can be a great gateway to everything cool metal has to offer, not to mention all the great blues and jazz that influenced them.)
In other words, Tony Iommi provides the best guitar starter pack you could ask for!
this must have been the easiest tone chase because everything was actually made to sound like tony by tony.
sound like green day without busting the bank
Really liked this one!
fantastic series
OK, HOW MANY PEOPLE SANG THE LYRICS WHEN BEA WAS PLAYING THE LEAD MELODY TO WAR PIGS? I KNOW I DID
MB215 that's one thing I really love about Phil X reviews. sometimes you just need someone to sing that piece after the riff !
Sound like Stevie Ray Vaughan!
I think you should do a set of BREAKING the bank and WITHOUT BREAKING THE BANK side by side. With Matt playing a way more expensive guitar (second video I notice this in) i can tell the difference, but its super small. I would like to see more side by sides with the budget rig and the bust the bank rig. You guys are great! Keep on keeping on!
i had those albums when they came and listening to you i did'nt want you to stop.excellent!
Didn't you guys use to avoid signature stuff?
Just signature gear that's not the artist they are trying to sound like I think.
Only if it isn't a signature guitar that doesn't belong to the person they're trying to sound like
they made that rule when trying to sound like Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit, and they said it again in sound like Tom DeLonge from Blink 182, but in sounding like Simon Neil from Biffy Clyro they were allowed to use his Signature Squier strat
They will come to a dilemma when they come across artists that already use other people's signature gear. I can see that being a problem for wahs, especially. Many use either a Jimi, Dimebag, Tremonti, or Bad Horsie - all of which are signature models.
No, they avoid someone else's sig for someone else's rig
sounds like smashing pumpkins. they'd be a challenge to do, for sure
Black Sabbath did bring that dark metal sound to the masses. Including me back in the early 80's. Also I prefer ceramic in my bridge pickups and alnico in the neck.
When you cant stop a smile while working that guitar that is awesome I love it
sound like tame impala!
Love your stuff, but does it make sense to use signature gear close to what he sounds now when trying to sound like him back in the days? You already mentioned he used P90s so P90s would have been cool...
Keep up the great work!
Well the signature gear is usually meant to be the best of both worlds. It sounds like he sounds now but also it resembles the 70's sound.
Both of those guitars sound excellent. I also love the Iomi Laney amps.
yesss! Seeing sabbath in Hollywood this Monday, then one week later at Ozzfest!
SOUNDS LIKE RAMMSTEIN :D
I DARE YOU AHAHAHAHHHA
sounds like TOSIN ABASI and let the captain play the parts! good luck! (thumbs up so they see it!)
gerdzim I see what you did there, THUMBS up
eh
eh
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I’ll go
Awesome sounds!
loved the cheeky grins during war pigs sounds great