I bought one , in July, probably 10 thousand though it , no problems, the gun is beautiful, fit and finish are very nice, my favorite part is the pistol grip, which is not what is it this video, full curve, nice palm swell, adjustable comb, although zero adjustment fits me wonderfully. The tapered rib points great, the factory chokes were tight, but they sent me two extra sets(5 ea.)flush, and extended that are standard dimensions. Time will tellI know, but I love this gun, wayyyy better than my barrel heavy browning.
Here in the USA one can procure an SPZ ME at any time at Academy for $430, and there are usually a few sale events throughout the year when they have them knocked down to $400. Comparing to the advertised prices in the UK, I'd guess the base Pro model to go for about $1300 if Academy picks it up. That would tempting indeed!
I personally think that Yildiz are the best value for money guns on the market today, bar none. We have five of them within the family both in 20 and 12 bores. (Game and Clays) My son also won the West Midlands Automatic Ball Trap championship with his Yildiz Pro Trap with a 96/100. A lot of gun for the money.
I wanted to try one at last year's NSS and none were available to buy/try! I can't wait to see how you go with the adj one. Would you think it has the value to do a restocking?
Mx12 clone bigtime, they did a good job, looks great- but at that price point you have some serious guns on offer, not sure that's a smart move to try enter that end of market
The turkish Dickinson box lock puts other makers to shame for the price. Would be nice if you could do a review on their 28g, such as their estate model.
Looking at the comments on your video so far I get the feeling there is a fair amount of dislike of Turkish guns. Me personally? I go to the shop and I try for size what I can afford. I have a Hatsan for rough shooting, a Caesar Guerini "safe queen" that's never been shot, a couple of Wingmasters' (just because), a Browning 525 for Clays and various other bits and bobs. At no time have I looked at something and said "I don't like that because the Italians made it", or the Japanese or anyone else. Does it fit you?Does it fit your intended purpose?Is it in your price range?Will it stand the test of time?In the case of this shotgun, I think it will. Oh, and the old Hatsan semi has seen five years of abuse and is still going strong....
I recently bought a pro trap version of that gun, and as i've had it a while i noticed some, some would say "minor" quality control issues that will surely decrease the lifetime of this shotgun. But cocrats of making me wanna buy one cuz now i'm stuck with it.XD
Four of the issues you had that made it less than perfect are EXACTLY what I would prefer as a shooter with a smaller stature to yourself. So, maybe for me it IS perfect.
Probably for me too. At 5' 7" and of chunky stature my Browning 525 Sporter with its 32" barrels is a gurt lump and slow to heave up onto fast birds. One of these might be just the job.
Should be the same as an MX8, depress ejector about half way by hand until that small round insert that holds it in place is visible in groove the ejector rides in. At that time remove the round insert and the ejector should slide out.
@TGS Outdoors. Though you didn’t say in the video, at 6:42-6:55 it looks like the Pro has replaceable trunnions that use hex or torx tool (ala Beretta 680 series). Is that the case, or are they identical to a Perazzi MX-12?
This vid felt much more laidback, and not to stressed :) However, invictus I in a more indepth review would be very much appriciated, since theyre not very common in sweden and im very intrested in buying one
THE HORNET no it’s not. It’s a brand new gun for £500, which is great value for money. However if I had 5-600 to spend I would buy something else... check out our video on that subject!
@@tgsoutdoors . My freind purchased one for his son for a 1st gun. Fine 1st trip out second trip out started giving light strikes on the primer. Took it back and exchanged it.. About a month later the new ones trigger started playing up. In my experience they are crap. Finally put his hands in his pocket and got the boy a second hand silver pigeon for 900 quid. Guess what the boys of to a good start. Seen a brand spanking new yildiz .410 ss giving light strikes straight out the box as well. I hate yildiz like you Hate Baikal. ......
Guns snobs, car snobs, wine snobs. I guess we all have our favorites. Yildiz makes inexpensive side by sides. Are they also of decent value for rough use? - bushwhacking through chaparral where they will undoubtedly get scratched, for example.
John, you don't get a stock key with a new Purdey at a £90'000 + however all is not lost as they do supply you with a full time valet to remove the stock for you .🤣🤣🤣.
I do not trust guns made in Turkey. I have asked 2 Italian gun makers about their cooperation with a Turkish gun maker and I was informed that they used to buy barrels from a Turkish manufacturer for their guns (to lower the price) but after a few years they discontinued doing it because the barrels had many problems.
To the guys at the gun shop I've been laid up of late where and why in not anybody's concern but mine anyhoo I've been doing a lot of thinking for a change and I've come to realise I've been hard nah not hard I've been ignorant and down right rude to ye because we have a very different opinion on a certain make of gun but that is no excuse for my attitude , behaviour and rudeness so here in public I would like to say I AM TRULY SORRY FOR THE THINGS I HAVE SAID REGARDING YER CHARACTER AND ATTITUDES SORRY I HOPE YE CAN WILL ACCEPT MY APOLOGY mind you I still think that particular make of gun deserves a little more respect than ye give it but that's just my opinion
Appreciate it mate, I guess our opinions do differ a lot when it comes to certain makers. I guess I should be more accepting of what the cheaper guys have to offer - although it is hard to put a lifetimes worth of prejudice out of the way!
The Gun Shop know that we've buried the hatchet and not in each other's skulls A what multi tool is that ? And B how much dale a perrawhatever cost ? And I'm guessing it's a lot why pay that much for a what is just a shotgun
What a dreadful snob you are !..It wasn't so long ago that some spoke similarly about Ceasar Guarrini, look What great inroads they made into the market . I have been fortunate enough to have owned 2 mx8's in the years when they were considerably less than they are now (under £2000). however I doubt I would hesitate in purchasing this model from Yildiz if i was in the market ,as like most Turkish gunmakers there quality has improved massively over the last 10yrs but still offering incredible value for money .I also personally foresee Yildiz increasing their market share by a substantial amount in the near future .
@@geraldswain3259 Snob or not but I tend to buy well, buy once. When I go out to buy a shotgun i want it to outlast me. My Krieghoff Parcours might be expensive in some peoples eyes, but it's built to last. So maybe in ten or twenty years they might be up there with brands like Guerini, but i doubt it....
Then you have serious priority issues in your life. You must be very philosophically shallow and have coping problems when it comes to other people's perceived opinion of you. I like the way you tried to worm out of it with "no actually I buy so it lasts" spiel.... everyone knew what you meant originally and you still look like a pretentious twat.
save the heart break tell the Yildiz sales Rep. to come and pick it back up OH no adjustable comb, cheap recoil pad. That is not a true sporting clays o/u. Field model or less ..... What dose fat chicks and mopeds have in common? They are fun to ride till your friends see you...............................what?
I like your video's. I don't have a dislike in some turkish o/u's. It's a long reach to spend that much on a field style gun. And to offer it as a sporting model. just lacks overall. For the money.
@@jamesmartin3914 I wouldent buy a turkish gun mate . In my experience there all a pile of shit. Start off ok but after some hard use the problems start to surface. Only exception being the later escort semi autos.The earlier ones were a bit iffy
I bought one , in July, probably 10 thousand though it , no problems, the gun is beautiful, fit and finish are very nice, my favorite part is the pistol grip, which is not what is it this video, full curve, nice palm swell, adjustable comb, although zero adjustment fits me wonderfully. The tapered rib points great, the factory chokes were tight, but they sent me two extra sets(5 ea.)flush, and extended that are standard dimensions. Time will tellI know, but I love this gun, wayyyy better than my barrel heavy browning.
Hows it holding up?
Here in the USA one can procure an SPZ ME at any time at Academy for $430, and there are usually a few sale events throughout the year when they have them knocked down to $400. Comparing to the advertised prices in the UK, I'd guess the base Pro model to go for about $1300 if Academy picks it up. That would tempting indeed!
I really like the reviews you do. Very detailed technical stuff I don't even understand. But this is how a proper review should be. Well done
Great Review, looking forward to the follow up on this 👍
I personally think that Yildiz are the best value for money guns on the market today, bar none.
We have five of them within the family both in 20 and 12 bores. (Game and Clays)
My son also won the West Midlands Automatic Ball Trap championship with his Yildiz Pro Trap with a 96/100.
A lot of gun for the money.
I have a sporter 12 i love it. Great channel.
Would you review Browning Cynergy?
I wanted to try one at last year's NSS and none were available to buy/try! I can't wait to see how you go with the adj one. Would you think it has the value to do a restocking?
Awesome review Johnny!
And what about the syde by syde Yildiz? Do you happen to have a opinion?
I have the Yildiz 20 b thought it might be a compromise but how wrong i was lovely gun .
Mx12 clone bigtime, they did a good job, looks great- but at that price point you have some serious guns on offer, not sure that's a smart move to try enter that end of market
The turkish Dickinson box lock puts other makers to shame for the price.
Would be nice if you could do a review on their 28g, such as their estate model.
Not something that is available here I’m afraid.
Looking at the comments on your video so far I get the feeling there is a fair amount of dislike of Turkish guns. Me personally? I go to the shop and I try for size what I can afford. I have a Hatsan for rough shooting, a Caesar Guerini "safe queen" that's never been shot, a couple of Wingmasters' (just because), a Browning 525 for Clays and various other bits and bobs. At no time have I looked at something and said "I don't like that because the Italians made it", or the Japanese or anyone else. Does it fit you?Does it fit your intended purpose?Is it in your price range?Will it stand the test of time?In the case of this shotgun, I think it will. Oh, and the old Hatsan semi has seen five years of abuse and is still going strong....
Strange isn’t it! Gun bigotry is a thing that fascinates me, many people won’t give this a chance and it is unbelievable value for money!
.....think I’d still prefer the Miroku MK38 Trap though..... 😜
Nice , please do a review with the akkar Churchill orcap trap. Thx
The better it is the more hate it will generate.
I recently bought a pro trap version of that gun, and as i've had it a while i noticed some, some would say "minor" quality control issues that will surely decrease the lifetime of this shotgun. But cocrats of making me wanna buy one cuz now i'm stuck with it.XD
Four of the issues you had that made it less than perfect are EXACTLY what I would prefer as a shooter with a smaller stature to yourself. So, maybe for me it IS perfect.
Probably for me too. At 5' 7" and of chunky stature my Browning 525 Sporter with its 32" barrels is a gurt lump and slow to heave up onto fast birds. One of these might be just the job.
Good looks and at a reasonable price what’s not to like , now I just need find 1 to shoot
Do a cheaper range stuff, I’m buying my first shotgun for like 500 and wold like your recommendations.
What are you thinking of?
Probably like a Baikal or a lambert but would love your opinion!
Very nice
What is the acronym IWA's meaning? Thank you! Best shotgun videos on earth!
Internationale Waffen Ausstellung
What's the difference between this sporter and the game version?
Is the game just a touch lighter?
Looks good
Can this gun be fitted with a tsk stock ?
Yes
is the action made of steel ?
Yes
John how do you remove the ejectors?
Should be the same as an MX8, depress ejector about half way by hand until that small round insert that holds it in place is visible in groove the ejector rides in. At that time remove the round insert and the ejector should slide out.
Morning, are the barrels on this fleur de lis stamped??
Yes they are
John, is this the same gun that you have in the shop at the moment?
This one is I believe.
@TGS Outdoors. Though you didn’t say in the video, at 6:42-6:55 it looks like the Pro has replaceable trunnions that use hex or torx tool (ala Beretta 680 series). Is that the case, or are they identical to a Perazzi MX-12?
This vid felt much more laidback, and not to stressed :)
However, invictus I in a more indepth review would be very much appriciated, since theyre not very common in sweden and im very intrested in buying one
Guerini Original vs Invictus - on its way - might just be a few weeks!
@@tgsoutdoors Excellent 👍
You still have to keep the volume down for that jarring music at the start..
which one is better the ATA sp sporter or the yildiz pro sporter?
The ATA is cheaper by quire a margin, but if price is not being compared, then the pro sport Yildiz is significantly better.
@@tgsoutdoors will you review thr einchester sx4 i would like to know what you have to say about it
Yildiz pro 16.000 turkish lira, Ata sporter 4.000 turkish lira...😁
Beautiful shotgun but I don’t think they have it the U.S. but for money ill rather buy a 686 or any beretta over under
They are now yildiz pro star . Details on you tube review for the pro star
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Leave out the palm swell so us lefties can enjoy it too.
What do you think of the yildiz game gun with the alloy action
Pile of shit.
THE HORNET no it’s not. It’s a brand new gun for £500, which is great value for money. However if I had 5-600 to spend I would buy something else... check out our video on that subject!
@@tgsoutdoors . My freind purchased one for his son for a 1st gun. Fine 1st trip out second trip out started giving light strikes on the primer.
Took it back and exchanged it.. About a month later the new ones trigger started playing up. In my experience they are crap. Finally put his hands in his pocket and got the boy a second hand silver pigeon for 900 quid. Guess what the boys of to a good start. Seen a brand spanking new yildiz .410 ss giving light strikes straight out the box as well.
I hate yildiz like you Hate Baikal. ......
I love Baikal 💕
I meant the ‘what gun would I buy for £600’ video
@@tgsoutdoors I know . And it aint a yildiz.
I wish they sold the Yildiz sporter in the States.
They have started to yildiz pro star .
A dealer in the USA August Croker is selling them at double the UK price, obviously a ripped off .
Guns snobs, car snobs, wine snobs. I guess we all have our favorites.
Yildiz makes inexpensive side by sides. Are they also of decent value for rough use? - bushwhacking through chaparral where they will undoubtedly get scratched, for example.
I’m thinking of buying the Rizzini artimst 20g can you please do a review
Do you have one in stock? 32"
Just a 30" at the moment. 32" will be here fairly soon
John, you don't get a stock key with a new Purdey at a £90'000 + however all is not lost as they do supply you with a full time valet to remove the stock for you .🤣🤣🤣.
Sorry...not on their cheaper versions.
I would love to have a ‘Gun Bearer’ one day.
Güzel tüfek
I do not trust guns made in Turkey. I have asked 2 Italian gun makers about their cooperation with a Turkish gun maker and I was informed that they used to buy barrels from a Turkish manufacturer for their guns (to lower the price) but after a few years they discontinued doing it because the barrels had many problems.
Thats why yildiz is buying their barrels from italy :p
To the guys at the gun shop I've been laid up of late where and why in not anybody's concern but mine anyhoo I've been doing a lot of thinking for a change and I've come to realise I've been hard nah not hard I've been ignorant and down right rude to ye because we have a very different opinion on a certain make of gun but that is no excuse for my attitude , behaviour and rudeness so here in public I would like to say I AM TRULY SORRY FOR THE THINGS I HAVE SAID REGARDING YER CHARACTER AND ATTITUDES SORRY I HOPE YE CAN WILL ACCEPT MY APOLOGY mind you I still think that particular make of gun deserves a little more respect than ye give it but that's just my opinion
Appreciate it mate, I guess our opinions do differ a lot when it comes to certain makers. I guess I should be more accepting of what the cheaper guys have to offer - although it is hard to put a lifetimes worth of prejudice out of the way!
Thank you I think
The Gun Shop know that we've buried the hatchet and not in each other's skulls A what multi tool is that ? And B how much dale a perrawhatever cost ? And I'm guessing it's a lot why pay that much for a what is just a shotgun
Browning B525 Laminate Review this is much a better gun and choice.. 1/3rd the price stay on the roads you know.
This gun is £1595, the Browning is £1995...
That's a ridiculous price, you can get a silver pigeon for that
😂 so….
Looks like a Perazzi MX12 clone.
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Thir wayyyyyy more money in Canada lol
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Well it's not a Perazzi, it might be ok for the money but i wouldn't buy one.
I wouldn't want to show up at the gun club with a Turkish gun.
What a dreadful snob you are !..It wasn't so long ago that some spoke similarly about Ceasar Guarrini, look What great inroads they made into the market . I have been fortunate enough to have
owned 2 mx8's in the years when they were considerably less than they are now (under £2000). however I doubt I would hesitate in purchasing this model from Yildiz if i was in the market ,as like most Turkish gunmakers there quality has improved massively over the last 10yrs but still offering incredible value for money .I also personally foresee Yildiz increasing their market share by a substantial amount in the near future .
@@geraldswain3259 Snob or not but I tend to buy well, buy once. When I go out to buy a shotgun i want it to outlast me. My Krieghoff Parcours might be expensive in some peoples eyes, but it's built to last. So maybe in ten or twenty years they might be up there with brands like Guerini, but i doubt it....
Me neither mate. Not even in Turkey
Then you have serious priority issues in your life. You must be very philosophically shallow and have coping problems when it comes to other people's perceived opinion of you.
I like the way you tried to worm out of it with "no actually I buy so it lasts" spiel.... everyone knew what you meant originally and you still look like a pretentious twat.
Real asshole. 7777777
No way on the yildz. Seen higher numbers
You constantly and knowingly disparage Turkish rifles.
Junk
Have you used one, take one apart next to an mx12 or even held one, doubt it
trade in value? why get a impostor? no palm swell rib is outdated. @ 3K plus ? get the real deal. Zoli, or Dt11 light years away from K and P guns
save the heart break tell the Yildiz sales Rep. to come and pick it back up OH no adjustable comb, cheap recoil pad. That is not a true sporting clays o/u. Field model or less ..... What dose fat chicks and mopeds have in common? They are fun to ride till your friends see you...............................what?
@@jamesmartin3914 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like your video's. I don't have a dislike in some turkish o/u's. It's a long reach to spend that much on a field style gun. And to offer it as a sporting model. just lacks overall. For the money.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 buy that gun. Will get a sting in the bum.and then some..
@@jamesmartin3914 I wouldent buy a turkish gun mate . In my experience there all a pile of shit. Start off ok but after some hard use the problems start to surface.
Only exception being the later escort semi autos.The earlier ones were a bit iffy