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Thanks for giving an honest review! Many people are unwilling to cast any shade on a product they have been given. Usually with aftermarket LED, the complaint is not ENOUGH cutoff - apparently, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing! Interesting to see if you move away from these over time, I'm pretty sure that a LED upgrade video of yours brought me to your channel years back on one of your XJ's, loved the honesty and have been here ever since!
I’ve been looking at these since I got my ‘20 JLUR in October which came with the stock halogen lights. I like the halo look but not the crazy RGB stuff. These in my opinion look better than the Mopar LED headlights and are a lot cheaper, $900 vs. $600.
Bought these for my JLU. Love them but not good in a snow storm. Hope they come up with a version that has built in heaters, I would gladly buy again. The cutoff on mine usually just hits the top of the trunk of the vehicle in front of me. It’s a clear and clean cutoff, very nice!
@@MilkBone3327 The snow builds up on the lens quickly and you totally lose the headlights. Regular bulbs give off enough heat to melt the snow as it hit the headlights. You think it wouldn’t be that bad but it really is, you can barley see a glow over the hood.
There is NO low beam, street legal, light pattern that lets you see what's down the road. None. All low beams have a cutoff, they're shielded, and are only meant for in close lighting.
you forgot to put the fuse removal tool back in its place. its sorta just laying in there. wonder if its still there lol. Also, that adjustment is for non lifted jeeps, i think.
The best set up would be a stock set up from the factory but with a spread out light ahead of you reaching into the night where the center isn’t too bright this way you don’t blind people as long as the sides get great lumens you should be ok for normal conditions.
I wanted brighter headlight on my rig that came with the sealed glass beam headlamp. Problem was it only came in two options, both are a dingy yellow color. Now I know the whiter the light the hotter it is and brighter, and projection HID lights are expensive and come with way to much extra crap. Found a set of Cibie glass lenses that fit my rig and now I can put any bran of halogen bulbs in that I choose. I put a extra relay at the head lights so it wouldn’t tax the headlamp system, and helps the stay constant without flickering.
Good video as always. European lighting cutoff has been on some vehicles in the U.S. for years now. I personally do not care for it for all the reasons you hit on. I live in an area with a lot of deer and not seeing a little higher up the next hill is not good. Keep up the good work.
That cutoff is a US DOT requirement and is not part of European headlight standard!!! If you saw an European headlight's beam pattern, you'll realize how much superior it is compared to the US DOT version!!!
@@LWRC look, cie has done tons of reports on this and that cutoff did start in Europe. I don't really care, I just liked your YT light project. I worked to design on road lighting with a major supplier years ago and understand the cutoff, still don't like it. That is personal opinion on my part. I did not say it was part of any standard above, just mentioned it was from Europe. Again, thank you for doing the light review. Have a great day. I do hope you do more of them as it was informative.
@@EverythingOutdoors The entire objective of headlights is to allow the driver to see at night. The cutoff may have started in Europe but the current pattern is part of the US DOT standard. It is seen as a flat beam pattern when you project it on to a flat surface. European pattern has a wedge pattern on the upper right side which illuminates road signs that the US pattern doesn't have. Again, you apparently have not used European lights as they are vastly superior to the US version. As for which types you prefer, why would you prefer something inferior?!! Audi already has pioneered laser, a term they used but are not actual laser beam, headlights that are computer controlled and can light up specific target areas for incredible night time visibility without blinding oncoming traffic. So things are getting significantly better and the US DOT standard is falling further behind.
@@LWRC love your passion for lighting. In the flat, the European cars I have been in have lights that work fantastic on the Autobahn. Where it is flat for the most part. In the US, we have a ton of hills, not talking mountains, just quick hills and I would simply like the cutoff to be a bit higher. Again, loved the video and keep up the good work.
@@EverythingOutdoors The fact that US standards are lagging way behind European standards is pathetic. These people that write the US laws have no clue what they're doing. In Europe, they understand that you should be able to see the signs. The beam pattern should work for any environment that the drivers may encounter on the streets and highways. We are not talking about off road conditions. That said, the issue you mentioned should be able to be resolved with proper aiming of the vertical part of the headlight beam. Your headlights will only point towards the direction that the front of the car is pointed at. If you have just past the crest of hill 1 and the front of the car is pointed downwards as you head towards hill 2, of course you will not see the top of hill 2 no matter how high you aim your lights. Not knowing the exact situation you mentioned, just make sure they're aimed properly and that will be the best it can ever get. If you need lighting for the specific condition you mentioned, just install a good set of aftermarket fog (or driving lights depending on the distance to the 2nd hill) lights that you can switch on at the time.
People with the cheap not truly DOT compliant lights/drop in led bulbs/improperly aimed lights are the ones blinding you, Not everyone with an LED headlight. I've got leds in my jeep and my dads semi; both sets are aimed right and we get flashed maybe once every few months
Good video showing the beam pattern against the wall. However, there is no right side upward slice pattern to illuminate road signs that European lens have!!!
Why not go w/ JW Speaker Evolution LEDs given the price point of these and JWs? I added the JW's to my '01 XJ and they are fantastic. Nice cutoff but there is some bleed over above the cutoff line but they don't blind people. Never been flashed... Maybe you could get JW to donate a pair for comparison.
It looks like the front tires are pointing outward in your video.it may be an optical illusion,but it caught my attention Everytime I could see the front of the Jeep.sorry,the new lights look great.are you going to keep them?.I bought some similar to those but rectangle for my YJ.they work great and haven't had anyone bright light me since I installed them.hope to see you at this year's Jeep Invasion.we're big fans
Very bright lights, and the high beams almost look like a spot light. BUT, that cutoff line is WAY too sharp. You stated it, and showed it while driving. If you're on a road you're not familiar with, it could be a dangerous scenario. Just my thoughts. Otherwise, I like them a lot! Thanks for the vid!
I work at a shop. We’ve had JLs come in straight from the dealership and the headlights were all over the place. We started focusing them on there way out the door as a courtesy. Especially after a lift install. Check your focus for sure
No LED, stock halogen lights, it is a Rubicon... could there be something else causing some wrangler lights to be dim ? Or maybe I’ve still got good eyesight 😁😁
Johnny_Gee mopar just makes a garbage reflector. JKs had the same issue. And you can keep going back and have the same problem. And the world got brighter so Halogens can’t keep up
Dan Fisher again mine are fine... maybe I’ve got good eyesight 😉😉😉... na I find LED”s obnoxious when coming towards me or when they are behind me when I’m driving my crown vic. They need to have a lower low beam but still not as bad as the projector ones
We stopped carrying Oracle for the JKs because of constant warranty issues. I really hope you do a review after some time with them. Positive or negative. I am very hesitant about giving oracle another chance with the JLs
BleepinJeep the halo or the headlight would flicker or fail. Didn’t matter if you used the cheap anti flicker harness it came with or the expensive rigid version. Most fail. And warranty from the manufacturer was impossible. We’d just return them to the supplier and let them deal with it.
As i've said in so many other comments, LED just doesn't impress me, regardless of its purpose and format. car, house lamp, flashlight, etc. The light color from LED emitters is what gets me all triggered. As much as i like playing with modern lights and flashlights, and they're definitely an improvement over incandescent flashlights, there is something lacking that. Nobody wants to work under that kind of lighting for very long..
I had a rental car that had a cut off like those and I hated it !!! As you've found out you can't see anything above that cut off point... Very dangerous !!
Perhaps, but rust never sleeps.( here is where I should insert a picture of my beloved XJ from underneath but it is a rusty shameful mess and I will spare you.)
600 bucks for LED headlights? ridiculous...when the LED module dies in less than 5 years, you will be forced to buy another one (the dream of every manufacturer) . If you have some brain, just stick to regular OEM lights and buy cheap bulbs when they burn out. Much more reasonable route..:-)
When Jeeps drive behind my car the beams aim offensively high - every jeep ever, I estimate, though I could be wrong. They're hitting the rear mirror if not the interior roof iteself of my standard sized sedan. This is uncalled for. I wish there was an answer to this. (Oh, I try awkwardly attempting to aim my rear-view at the eyes of the jeep behind me, so they comprehend what damage they're causing. I would bet under 1% properly get the message. No surprise; many jeeps on city streets are not exactly courteous or conscientious drivers, much less yuppie pricks and lawyers just trying to look cool.)
I can also see offroaders go, "oh, awesome, these are so much brighter - and safer" - both for illuminating and for visibility to others; and off we go with a "race to see who can be the brightest." The problem is that they sometimes are driving on roads -- and infuriating automobile drivers.
I'm glad the video went over adding switches. That approach could make life better for all. And obviously THANK YOU for going over the beam adjustment. So help me, though, I do not believe many if any jeeps on the road responsibly do that - if they even could care less to begin with. Is that what a "mall jeep" is?
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pro tip : watch series on flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@John Martin Yea, I've been watching on flixzone for years myself :)
When you said you chose them because they were the least flashy, I felt that.
Thanks for giving an honest review! Many people are unwilling to cast any shade on a product they have been given. Usually with aftermarket LED, the complaint is not ENOUGH cutoff - apparently, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing! Interesting to see if you move away from these over time, I'm pretty sure that a LED upgrade video of yours brought me to your channel years back on one of your XJ's, loved the honesty and have been here ever since!
I'll stick with stock don't like the cut off and i hate when people come at me with those things.
Gregory Fields I definitely agree with that mate
Plus the $600 price is KRAZY.
@@Whiteandsonsgarage if you have to have more light then you're out driving your lights anyway slow down i say.
@@NoWr2Run you can buy a bunch of stock lights for that money.
nowr2run can buy a xj for that
I’ve been looking at these since I got my ‘20 JLUR in October which came with the stock halogen lights. I like the halo look but not the crazy RGB stuff. These in my opinion look better than the Mopar LED headlights and are a lot cheaper, $900 vs. $600.
Bought these for my JLU. Love them but not good in a snow storm. Hope they come up with a version that has built in heaters, I would gladly buy again.
The cutoff on mine usually just hits the top of the trunk of the vehicle in front of me. It’s a clear and clean cutoff, very nice!
What happens during a snow storm?
@@MilkBone3327
The snow builds up on the lens quickly and you totally lose the headlights. Regular bulbs give off enough heat to melt the snow as it hit the headlights.
You think it wouldn’t be that bad but it really is, you can barley see a glow over the hood.
They make heated versions of these now ....just ordered a set
Thanks for saving me some money. These lights do not impress me
For less money, you can get JW speaker 8700 j2s
@@mgjr40023 are they better or brighter???
Those fenders are radical man! Good selection.
Very noticable difference much clearer IMO
Those lights have a nice and clean look.Really nice.....
You crack me up bro! Another bleepin great video as usual.
That cutoff scares the hell out of me. Beautiful to look at from the front of vehicle, though.
I kept thinking they would be “Terminator” red. They look like its eyes. One day we will all go back to the retro look too.
the lights look great from the outside but that been pattern sucks. if you can’t see what is down the road all the extra lumens are useless
I have the Oracles on my Gladiator and the beam pattern is the best Ive seen on any vehicle.
@@rlovell383 whats the p/n
@@whatroads4x4 5839-504
There is NO low beam, street legal, light pattern that lets you see what's down the road. None. All low beams have a cutoff, they're shielded, and are only meant for in close lighting.
Hey everybody, beam adjustment is covered in this video. This is important if you don't want to blind other vehicles when you're on the roadway.
you forgot to put the fuse removal tool back in its place. its sorta just laying in there. wonder if its still there lol. Also, that adjustment is for non lifted jeeps, i think.
These look great! We just did an LED light install on our JKU and I'm very happy with them.
The best set up would be a stock set up from the factory but with a spread out light ahead of you reaching into the night where the center isn’t too bright this way you don’t blind people as long as the sides get great lumens you should be ok for normal conditions.
On my JT i only replaced the bulbs with sv4's..I like them now..much cheaper route
Very simple and clean, keep up the good work!
Chappie robot eye headlights.. I like
So what made you get this lights vs like J.w.speaker & KC lights
I wanted brighter headlight on my rig that came with the sealed glass beam headlamp. Problem was it only came in two options, both are a dingy yellow color. Now I know the whiter the light the hotter it is and brighter, and projection HID lights are expensive and come with way to much extra crap. Found a set of Cibie glass lenses that fit my rig and now I can put any bran of halogen bulbs in that I choose. I put a extra relay at the head lights so it wouldn’t tax the headlamp system, and helps the stay constant without flickering.
What are the name of those fender flares?
Exactly what I was thinking. Need those for my gladiator.
Same here!!!!!!!!!
U can use that jumper to put in with ur marker lights so when u turn the marker lights on the halos come on
OK sir where did you get those fenders?!!! I love those lights on them.
Nice! Might get a set for my wife's JLUR!
Any reason this ones showing up as unlisted?
Good video as always. European lighting cutoff has been on some vehicles in the U.S. for years now. I personally do not care for it for all the reasons you hit on. I live in an area with a lot of deer and not seeing a little higher up the next hill is not good. Keep up the good work.
That cutoff is a US DOT requirement and is not part of European headlight standard!!!
If you saw an European headlight's beam pattern, you'll realize how much superior it is compared to the US DOT version!!!
@@LWRC look, cie has done tons of reports on this and that cutoff did start in Europe. I don't really care, I just liked your YT light project. I worked to design on road lighting with a major supplier years ago and understand the cutoff, still don't like it. That is personal opinion on my part. I did not say it was part of any standard above, just mentioned it was from Europe. Again, thank you for doing the light review. Have a great day. I do hope you do more of them as it was informative.
@@EverythingOutdoors The entire objective of headlights is to allow the driver to see at night. The cutoff may have started in Europe but the current pattern is part of the US DOT standard. It is seen as a flat beam pattern when you project it on to a flat surface. European pattern has a wedge pattern on the upper right side which illuminates road signs that the US pattern doesn't have. Again, you apparently have not used European lights as they are vastly superior to the US version. As for which types you prefer, why would you prefer something inferior?!! Audi already has pioneered laser, a term they used but are not actual laser beam, headlights that are computer controlled and can light up specific target areas for incredible night time visibility without blinding oncoming traffic. So things are getting significantly better and the US DOT standard is falling further behind.
@@LWRC love your passion for lighting. In the flat, the European cars I have been in have lights that work fantastic on the Autobahn. Where it is flat for the most part. In the US, we have a ton of hills, not talking mountains, just quick hills and I would simply like the cutoff to be a bit higher. Again, loved the video and keep up the good work.
@@EverythingOutdoors The fact that US standards are lagging way behind European standards is pathetic. These people that write the US laws have no clue what they're doing. In Europe, they understand that you should be able to see the signs.
The beam pattern should work for any environment that the drivers may encounter on the streets and highways. We are not talking about off road conditions. That said, the issue you mentioned should be able to be resolved with proper aiming of the vertical part of the headlight beam. Your headlights will only point towards the direction that the front of the car is pointed at. If you have just past the crest of hill 1 and the front of the car is pointed downwards as you head towards hill 2, of course you will not see the top of hill 2 no matter how high you aim your lights. Not knowing the exact situation you mentioned, just make sure they're aimed properly and that will be the best it can ever get. If you need lighting for the specific condition you mentioned, just install a good set of aftermarket fog (or driving lights depending on the distance to the 2nd hill) lights that you can switch on at the time.
I love the look of the headlights! T
Never noticed the tiny jeep grill in the center of the stock headlights. Kinda makes me like them a little bit.
Good job, I'm a new JK owner and I will look at the adjustment.
you can get the factory leds with halos option on the jl that are better.
Cool video, but can you tell me something about the front bumper where can I get some more info about it please , thank you
Matt. You should add a sPod. They are a great company.
Love the fenders as well. What brand are they ?
I have the factory LED option on my JKU and have no complaints. My TJ is another matter, they suck.
😀 ha it’s always good too see Matt doing a little light work 🤪
Nice! You’ll blind on coming traffic but hey at least you can see .
No you don't. I have the Oracle lights
People with the cheap not truly DOT compliant lights/drop in led bulbs/improperly aimed lights are the ones blinding you, Not everyone with an LED headlight. I've got leds in my jeep and my dads semi; both sets are aimed right and we get flashed maybe once every few months
My 22 JT Mojave came w/ Halogens, do you still recommend these? I like the housing design of this vs the morimoto super 7 2.0.
Where do you get your fenders?
Going to pass on these for my 2022 ecodiesel JL. I dislike that sharp cutoff. These need to be auto leveling to be effective. Good video.
No expert by any means but my personal opinion is the morimoto super 7 has a better beam pattern. Especially considering the cost of the oculus.
Good video showing the beam pattern against the wall. However, there is no right side upward slice pattern to illuminate road signs that European lens have!!!
Thanks bro. This is a real tight video dude!
When the music started playing, I thought I was watching a Lite bright video .
Matt in half shirt and yogas?
Juiced10, as long as he had a bag over his head and it was pitch black and I was facing the other way. 👍🇦🇺
I agree with you... I had same thought 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
They look nice and thanks for the tip of how adjust the light...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Also that bumper is really nice...
Where did you get it?
Sweet Jeep! What brand are your rock slider’s and where did you purchase them?
Why not go w/ JW Speaker Evolution LEDs given the price point of these and JWs? I added the JW's to my '01 XJ and they are fantastic. Nice cutoff but there is some bleed over above the cutoff line but they don't blind people. Never been flashed... Maybe you could get JW to donate a pair for comparison.
Can't you just tap into the fender lights DRL for the Halo and just ground them inside the engine bay? It seems easier then the other options.
Matt, it's a thumbs down on the lights, thumbs up on the video. The light pattern sucks in my opinion.
Easy to do when you don't have a winch in front. I sweat bullets to change the bulbs without having to pull that front bumper and winch apart. 😂😁
I noticed you changed the fenders but didnt do a fender install video. What fenders are these on your JL?
You have that Mr. Rogers type voice , you ever watch Mr. Rogers as a kid ?
What lights do you have on your running boards? I’ve never seen that before
With no light above the cutoff, you can’t see overhead signs, which makes navigating at night frustrating.
@bleepinjeep which nut exactly is for grounding..i see 3 nuts and can't clearly see which one you use for grounding
What did you end up aiming them at? I’m curious as I have a very similar set up, thanks…
It looks like the front tires are pointing outward in your video.it may be an optical illusion,but it caught my attention Everytime I could see the front of the Jeep.sorry,the new lights look great.are you going to keep them?.I bought some similar to those but rectangle for my YJ.they work great and haven't had anyone bright light me since I installed them.hope to see you at this year's Jeep Invasion.we're big fans
Well, I got a pair. We will see.
Awesome intro
What brand of fenders are those, went thru the video list and watched about 5 and cant seem to find one with those being installed or mentioned.
Road armor
Very bright lights, and the high beams almost look like a spot light. BUT, that cutoff line is WAY too sharp. You stated it, and showed it while driving. If you're on a road you're not familiar with, it could be a dangerous scenario. Just my thoughts. Otherwise, I like them a lot! Thanks for the vid!
When are you gonna do a video for your new fender flares?
What are the fenders you're using.
I think they are ....Nixon off-road????
I have a 19 JL with the LED package and get high beamed every time. Your headlights are probably at the correct spec.
And yours probably aren't.
I work at a shop. We’ve had JLs come in straight from the dealership and the headlights were all over the place. We started focusing them on there way out the door as a courtesy. Especially after a lift install.
Check your focus for sure
Hey, do they make them for early 90s chevys?
What kind of fenders are those?
Great video but the Army mechanic in me is telling you to take that D***M ring off while working around the battery.
what fenders are running?
Not a fan of the cut off I live in Alaska and the lights need to shine everywhere for moose these would cause an accident
Yeah, nah. Won’t be rushing out to grab a pair of these. Think I’ll just upgrade my bulbs
Can anyone share what fenders these are?
I sure hope those dont blind everyone on the road.
Not if you aim them correctly
I’m really happy with my stock lights, why the upgrade... I’m in Fort Lauderdale are mine different to those ones ?
Did you get the LED package from the factory? They are much better then the conventional headlights Jeep offers
do you have a rubicon? you may have the upgraded lights and not the halogen... these stock halogens are pretty dim on the JL sport.
No LED, stock halogen lights, it is a Rubicon... could there be something else causing some wrangler lights to be dim ? Or maybe I’ve still got good eyesight 😁😁
Johnny_Gee mopar just makes a garbage reflector. JKs had the same issue. And you can keep going back and have the same problem. And the world got brighter so Halogens can’t keep up
Dan Fisher again mine are fine... maybe I’ve got good eyesight 😉😉😉... na I find LED”s obnoxious when coming towards me or when they are behind me when I’m driving my crown vic. They need to have a lower low beam but still not as bad as the projector ones
$600 Ha Ha Ha, you would have to be crazy!
Intro,😍
I hate the new projector type headlights they put on all the new cars nowdays
leighhl I get flashed all the time in both my ‘18 GMC Sierra and ‘12 Mini Countryman (both stock headlights).
Nice
What brand of fenders?
phillip combs they look like Road Armor
You know he's a professional now bc he can find a 10mm
We stopped carrying Oracle for the JKs because of constant warranty issues.
I really hope you do a review after some time with them. Positive or negative. I am very hesitant about giving oracle another chance with the JLs
what was happening to them?
BleepinJeep the halo or the headlight would flicker or fail. Didn’t matter if you used the cheap anti flicker harness it came with or the expensive rigid version. Most fail. And warranty from the manufacturer was impossible. We’d just return them to the supplier and let them deal with it.
"do I look like an 👼?" Lol haha nice
$589.50 & FREE Shipping, Wow.. I'll stay with my $75.00 110W LED Headlight H4 Hi-Lo Halo DRL For Jeep Cherokee XJ
As i've said in so many other comments, LED just doesn't impress me, regardless of its purpose and format. car, house lamp, flashlight, etc. The light color from LED emitters is what gets me all triggered. As much as i like playing with modern lights and flashlights, and they're definitely an improvement over incandescent flashlights, there is something lacking that. Nobody wants to work under that kind of lighting for very long..
Absolutely hate the beam cutoff.... the amount of light is amazing but if you cant see anything at all more than 70 feet ahead they're worthless.
I had a rental car that had a cut off like those and I hated it !!! As you've found out you can't see anything above that cut off point... Very dangerous !!
Xjs are better
YeeYeeTV definitely
Perhaps, but rust never sleeps.( here is where I should insert a picture of my beloved XJ from underneath but it is a rusty shameful mess and I will spare you.)
@@dmelson7502 just wait 20 years for these wrangler and gladiators to be rusty piles of shit
$600 for some lights that never even heard of!!!!????????? Uh yeah, no!
you walk a way from that high lighting just like that?? WTF mat? you high light them back man or they will think that your a peepee 🤨😐😂
600 bucks for LED headlights? ridiculous...when the LED module dies in less than 5 years, you will be forced to buy another one (the dream of every manufacturer) . If you have some brain, just stick to regular OEM lights and buy cheap bulbs when they burn out. Much more reasonable route..:-)
Wow, Glad you made this video, Now I know not to buy those! That is dangerous with that drastic cut off from what I can see.
1st comment I hope. Maybe a reply?
sure... wassup?
When Jeeps drive behind my car the beams aim offensively high - every jeep ever, I estimate, though I could be wrong. They're hitting the rear mirror if not the interior roof iteself of my standard sized sedan. This is uncalled for. I wish there was an answer to this. (Oh, I try awkwardly attempting to aim my rear-view at the eyes of the jeep behind me, so they comprehend what damage they're causing. I would bet under 1% properly get the message. No surprise; many jeeps on city streets are not exactly courteous or conscientious drivers, much less yuppie pricks and lawyers just trying to look cool.)
I can also see offroaders go, "oh, awesome, these are so much brighter - and safer" - both for illuminating and for visibility to others; and off we go with a "race to see who can be the brightest." The problem is that they sometimes are driving on roads -- and infuriating automobile drivers.
I'm glad the video went over adding switches. That approach could make life better for all.
And obviously THANK YOU for going over the beam adjustment. So help me, though, I do not believe many if any jeeps on the road responsibly do that - if they even could care less to begin with. Is that what a "mall jeep" is?
Ask the guy who high-brighted in response on the road. Standard Jeep settings seem to be at "anger other drivers" height :(
Sup
Toss the Halo wires in the trash where they belong! Leave the Halo for BMW.
What kinda fenders are those?