KISS - Paul Stanley Talks Firing Bill Aucoin and Recording Creatures

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
  • This is an excerpt from Paul's book Face the Music which you can get here:
    amzn.to/3lJQgZ2

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  • @lysaarvideo
    @lysaarvideo Рік тому +3

    This is one of the better parts of Paul Stanley's Kiss memoirs. You cross paths with the same people again and again.

  • @ZumadoggGoogle2
    @ZumadoggGoogle2 3 роки тому +39

    Paul is so blessed to be the only perfect human being ever. Too bad he is always punished by other people, lesser than he.

    • @RastaSaiyaman
      @RastaSaiyaman 3 роки тому +4

      You haven't heard the full thing, have you?
      Because the person he complains about the MOST is himself!

    • @matthewhoyt7090
      @matthewhoyt7090 Рік тому

      Lol😂

    • @Mrhasbarafree
      @Mrhasbarafree 6 місяців тому

      Paul has deep resentments against people he doesn't even know 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @elanham5764
    @elanham5764 3 роки тому +28

    What was really messed up was as great and hard album as Creatures was...at that time most people had forgotten Kiss...they were almost written off. Kiss really has been through it all and ALWAYS came back. Revenge couldn't have been a better title for that album. Thats why ive ALWAYS loved Kiss....they always end up getting the last laugh!!!!!!!

    • @RastaSaiyaman
      @RastaSaiyaman 3 роки тому +5

      The way I see it "Destroyer", "Creatures" and "Revenge" were a triad, in both what those albums did and what they stood for. Let me explain:
      - Destroyer
      After "Alive" made Kiss huge, the general consensus was "Well done you guys, but are you able to keep the momentum up?" So the band had something to prove and hit on a formula:
      - The sing along anthem
      - The ballad
      AND
      - The GENE song
      With "Destroyer" the sing along anthem was "Detroit Rock city", the ballad was "Beth" and the GENE song was "God of thunder"
      - Creatures of the night
      Well, with "Dynasty", "Unmasked" and "The Elder", Kiss lost not only their hardcore fans but also much of their credibility and as Paul puts it so eloquently, he was asked "What is it like being on a sinking ship?", People wrote them off, so Kiss had a statement to make and did so by following the template of "Destroyer" very closely.
      - The sing along Anthem was "I love it loud"
      - The Ballad was "I still love you"
      - The GENE song was "Warmachine"
      - Revenge
      Gene has often said that he "Wasn't there in the eighties" his lack of focus only turning around during the "Hot in the shade" era when he once again realized that he actually was THAT Gene Simmons and his writing started to get good again. But for many it was too little, too late, Kiss had narrowly survived the eighties, NO WAY they would survive the Nineties. Certainly not after Eric Carr passed away: that was a critical hit, they would NEVER survive that. So once again Kiss had something to prove.
      - The sing along anthem was "I just wanna"
      - The Ballad was "Every time I look at you."
      - The GENE song was "Unholy"
      You can listen to those three albums back to back and it will all fit like a jigsaw.

    • @ajo3085
      @ajo3085 3 роки тому +1

      They're definitely getting the last laugh on all those bands they trashed for lip-synching over the years.

    • @switchbladeactiondance
      @switchbladeactiondance 3 роки тому

      Genes on the Epstein list. So maybe Gitmo will this laugh last this time.

    • @andysalter7192
      @andysalter7192 2 роки тому +2

      Thing is Revenge didn't sell well , it was pretty much a flop.
      What saved Kiss and continued to this day is the Reunion in 96.

    • @exeortegarubio
      @exeortegarubio Рік тому

      I suppose that they killed a lot of good faith with Dynasty, Unmasked, and The Elder

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 3 роки тому +9

    Those solo albums were awesome. Each had a poster. I got Gene first, paul, peter, then ace. I was kid, albums were expensive. Shoulda bought Ace's first. I loved those solo albums.

  • @stevenr6874
    @stevenr6874 2 роки тому +5

    Paul Stanley's everybody under the bus tour

  • @chrisbee8009
    @chrisbee8009 3 роки тому +68

    If I looked like Gene Simmons I wouldn’t have wanted to take the makeup off either 🤣

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +4

      🧟‍♂️🤣

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +2

      @vonsmitty1313 😂😂😂

    • @jjrj8568
      @jjrj8568 3 роки тому

      he (was) hot when he was in shape; but he often looked like a plump Sicilian mother

    • @Sups614
      @Sups614 2 роки тому

      Haha! He would loose 80 percent of his body count

  • @derekhughes8318
    @derekhughes8318 2 роки тому +1

    Creatures of the night is one of my favorite kiss songs

  • @toma.4808
    @toma.4808 3 роки тому +18

    The irony is taking off the makeup was a disaster for gene. He wasnt the same guy onstage. He had the best persona in the band. You take that makeup off the fire breathing,blood spitting and tounge wagging wasnt the same. He was as he put it " beau Arthur in drag"

  • @timmyb8694
    @timmyb8694 3 роки тому +5

    Creatures is my fav. KISS album to date so....good move...

  • @67marlins
    @67marlins Рік тому +2

    I really can sense how sad Paul was to finally discharge Bill Aucoin, the regret comes through.

  • @leebaldwin6015
    @leebaldwin6015 3 роки тому +2

    seen other versions of creatures album cover,first time I've seen the makeup version with vinny

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 3 роки тому +1

    Has song ,"I wanna hear it loud, right between the eyes", good tune.

  • @5tar5z
    @5tar5z 3 роки тому +7

    Gene and Paul didn't care as long as they were making money. Discount producers, or whatever.

  • @nicksmart5469
    @nicksmart5469 3 роки тому +7

    Bon jovi doing blues ? What’s next ? Slayer doing do wop ?

    • @CYMRUKID69
      @CYMRUKID69 3 роки тому

      Bon Jovi are not a rock band they are more like NKOTB.

    • @nicksmart5469
      @nicksmart5469 3 роки тому

      @@CYMRUKID69 ha ha ! Pretty boys eh ? Saw them in 1984 first time in the U.K. and I thought he wouldn’t get anywhere-a 2nd rate Dave Lee Roth ! Who do you like ?

    • @CYMRUKID69
      @CYMRUKID69 3 роки тому

      @@nicksmart5469 I like proper rock music not Bon Direction.

    • @nicksmart5469
      @nicksmart5469 3 роки тому

      @@CYMRUKID69 classics like zeppelin purple and sabbath ?

    • @CYMRUKID69
      @CYMRUKID69 3 роки тому

      @@nicksmart5469 Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC/DC, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Rainbow, Foo Fighters, Van Halen, the cult & Stryper are a great rock band they are fantastic musicians but get unjustly criticized for their beliefs. Kiss were great in the eighties but it was never the same after the loss of Eric Carr. Gene, Paul, Eric Carr, Bruce Kulick were the best line up they had. But I'm sorry Bon Jovi are shite they should go back to new jerky.

  • @Jeffsafe
    @Jeffsafe 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve listened to Pauls book a couple of times. It’s well done and pretty interesting. The thing for sure, I’m glad I was never friends with Paul lol. I think he talks smack about just about everybody who was ever part of his life except his son (thank goodness). And the way he talks about Ace and ESPECIALLY Peter I surprised those guys ever talked to him again after the book came out. I understand those are the kinds of things that sell a lot of books but damn, talk about airing dirty laundry.

    • @andysalter7192
      @andysalter7192 2 роки тому +1

      Everyone else is to blame he doesn't take blame for really anything.

    • @nathueil1
      @nathueil1 Рік тому

      Peter's dick on Aces shoulders followed by Ace kissing it. That part?

    • @Jeffsafe
      @Jeffsafe Рік тому

      @@nathueil1 that’s a good example of dirty laundry I’d say

    • @HappyMachorino-bd8no
      @HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 місяців тому +1

      What you call "dirty laundry",
      Ace would be the first one to tell you: "That's Rock'n' Roll!"
      Ace kissed Peter's 🥕? So what? They were 🥃 and took stuff. Everyone knew!
      Paul mentioned that to show how difficult it was to work with two irrational addicts. I think it's acceptable to hear Paul's reality at their workplace.
      What's more important, there's no "dirty laundry" about his ex-wife! He wrote clinically clean about Pamela Bowen, the mother of their first son.
      Finally, what Paul wrote about himself, is very self-critical. He may not have written all, but he is his own harshest critic.

  • @AdrianJeffreys-fj2fv
    @AdrianJeffreys-fj2fv 2 місяці тому

    Creatures of the night best kiss album

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 3 роки тому +3

    But paul without them you probably never had a chance. A chance.

  • @Michael-bl4no
    @Michael-bl4no 3 роки тому +4

    Paul’s book made me realize he’s WORSE than Simmons. Paul Stanley never has anything good to say about anyone...except Paul Stanley!

    • @ferox965
      @ferox965 2 роки тому +2

      If you read the book, you'd know that he admits his own problems too.

    • @andysalter7192
      @andysalter7192 2 роки тому +1

      @@ferox965 not really, the only thing he goes on about to show weakness is his ear , something he had no control over.

  • @robertjackson-ii4om
    @robertjackson-ii4om Рік тому

    Theres a reason I played I Still Love You

  • @44excalibur
    @44excalibur 3 роки тому +1

    Uhhhh, that album cover is wrong. Ace Frehley appeared on the cover of Creatures of the Night, not Vinnie Vincent.

    • @JacobCoite
      @JacobCoite 3 роки тому +1

      There was a reissue with this i believe, although to not as well circulated as the makeup free reissue

    • @44excalibur
      @44excalibur 3 роки тому

      @@JacobCoite So is the original version with Ace still in circulation?

    • @JacobCoite
      @JacobCoite 3 роки тому

      @@44excalibur yea

  • @PaintNoillusioNz
    @PaintNoillusioNz Рік тому +1

    Lol paul can be so mean and brutally honest although i think the latter is a good quality. You want someone in life willing to say the tough things instead of whats convenient. It's equally as hilarious though and he has made it to a certain point in life so any advice he gives on life, probably not bad advice by any means. But man these guys would cut their own throats just to spite the others. What a wild ride that must have been.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 3 роки тому +8

    Well the non makeup albums were weakest barring Revenge and Carnival of Souls so Gene May have a point

    • @misfit2022
      @misfit2022 3 роки тому +2

      @@haywoodjablowme699 You always get that with Paul songs but for me the riffs were stronger and the best drumming on a Kiss album since Anton Fig. I do not disagree with what you are saying. I am not a big fan of Lick it up and much prefer Creatures but just personal taste.

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +4

      @@misfit2022 Lick It Up was the best non makeup album KISS ever made !!

    • @misfit2022
      @misfit2022 3 роки тому +1

      @@SirManfly I don’t like it and not listened back to it for years because I don’t like it but probably better than the bs which came later

    • @michaelmccourt4992
      @michaelmccourt4992 3 роки тому +2

      @@SirManfly and it’s just one of the best KISS albums period.

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +2

      @@michaelmccourt4992 indeed !!

  • @MCastleberry1980
    @MCastleberry1980 4 місяці тому

    I understand Gene being so hesitant to take the makeup off. He was the face of Kiss, and was the most gimmicky one. He leaned so hard into The Demon persona on stage with a whole segment involving him spitting blood during a bass solo, I don't think he knew how to be himself up there. Paul's stage persona didn't change at all, Eric was behind the drum kit, and folks weren't that attached to Vinnie anyway.

  • @chriskraft2874
    @chriskraft2874 3 роки тому +2

    Gene didnt wanna remove makeup 🤣🤔 gee I wonder why lmmfao

  • @vaekkriinhart4347
    @vaekkriinhart4347 Рік тому +1

    Paul really is the only one who never strayed from his committment to the band.. Carr too, I guess, but he passed and isn't an original

    • @qian4413
      @qian4413 Рік тому +1

      To be fair, Bruce, Singer, and Tommy are also very committed to their job descriptions

  • @warrenreddaway5734
    @warrenreddaway5734 4 місяці тому

    Bill paid the bill in the first few years. Sean Delaney gave more .
    They had faith. RESPECT.
    However..Its KISSTORY.

  • @ssssssssssssssssss50
    @ssssssssssssssssss50 Рік тому

    4:39 😂😂😂

  • @ROCKnROLL1406
    @ROCKnROLL1406 3 роки тому +2

    Why is Paul wearing a Bathrobe?

  • @samhain4539
    @samhain4539 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe paul stanley should look inside himself..

    • @HappyMachorino-bd8no
      @HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 місяців тому

      Or maybe you should read his 📖? Paul tried to get psychiatric help already at the age of 16 in a clinic
      in New York. Remember Dr. Jesse Hilsen? Paul "looked into himself" for about 35 years. And he wrote his book in 2014.

  • @chaplinj6512
    @chaplinj6512 2 роки тому

    Gene knew. Damn, I look ugly!

    • @HappyMachorino-bd8no
      @HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 місяців тому

      This is not relevant.
      Gene's identity in the band was the DEMON. Without makeup and his costume he LOST HIS IDENTITY.

  • @emilyhays5921
    @emilyhays5921 3 роки тому +3

    I love you daddy.(Gene) love, Emily.

    • @steveherlihy7904
      @steveherlihy7904 3 роки тому +2

      ,..and mine😆

    • @aleksandarfrick2656
      @aleksandarfrick2656 3 роки тому +1

      @@steveherlihy7904 Eric Cartman .....

    • @jubal238
      @jubal238 3 роки тому +1

      Makes me wonder how many babies were made by the band members throughout their years of touring the world. Before the AIDS epidemic hit I don't think anyone worried about wearing condoms.

    • @steveherlihy7904
      @steveherlihy7904 3 роки тому +2

      @@jubal238 go baby driver,go,go,go baby driver,..

  • @wingmannj
    @wingmannj 3 роки тому

    i always thought ace was still with the band for creatures...

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 3 роки тому

      Yeah, strange and wonder why Ace's picture is on the album but he never played a note on it. Even funnier is they released creatures with a different cover and had Bruce on it. Wtf? Bruce never played on that album either. lol.

    • @matthew4694
      @matthew4694 3 роки тому

      Gene and Paul never miss a chance to cash-in.

  • @evanescapades2513
    @evanescapades2513 2 роки тому +1

    These biographies bring out the worst in everybody. Idiotic cash grabs

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 3 роки тому

    So ya kicked him to the curb. Wonder what St. Peter gonna say. "Sorry can't let you in, your judgement us Hell"

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 3 роки тому

    Not all the time. About the elephant.

  • @jonnyblade46
    @jonnyblade46 3 роки тому +3

    I don't think I've heard a superstar whine as much as PS.
    He trashes Criss, he trashes Ace, he trashes Vinnie Vincent and he even takes stabs at Gene Simmons, without once critisising himself as a person.
    When he admits to screwing up, it's always "we screwed up". PS can admit to being part of collective mistakes, but he never seems to do any mistakes of his own.
    And he seems to have really weird take on rock n roll. A guy going down on his knees in the studio, isn't that freaking funny :)
    To PS, it's "creepy". I don't think PS would have fitted in any other band than KISS. Like GS, he's more into cash than rock.

    • @strnglhld
      @strnglhld 2 роки тому

      @@rodtrela1177 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ronaldshank7589
    @ronaldshank7589 3 роки тому

    As for what Gene did (as in referring to him bringing in the kids to sing on the album, so he could score some "brownie points")...Paul, I'll just say it this way, in just two words-Typical Gene!

  • @beatlehmann3424
    @beatlehmann3424 3 роки тому

    Actually I like the Album - but I do not listen to it anymore because ACE didn‘t play on it ! Under these Circumstances it is never the Best Album ! It is also not really a Complete Band Album with so many Ghost Guitar Players . It was a Hard Time for Kiss anyway since 1980 after Unmasked ! I really like The Elder Today (good Tunes on it) and the KISS Time about 1981/82 ! But I was very disappointed as I knew ACE was leaving and Kiss shortly after took the Make-up off ? Almost a new Band and without Ace and Peter anyway......back then I was 12 and 13 years old and shortly after I was not a Fan anymore for a few years . Today I’m a Fan from the first Ten Years
    with Make-up ! But Creatures was the Beginning of the End (or first End ) !
    If ACE would Played on it , I would love it much much more . But love the Video for I Love it Loud ! Rock and Roll Hell is maybe the Best Gene Simmons Song along with Mr. Blackwell from the 80‘s !

  • @jimilove7773
    @jimilove7773 3 роки тому +2

    Should have left it on and kept Vinnie!

  • @SuperJohnMontana
    @SuperJohnMontana 3 роки тому +7

    Paul, you clealry don;t understand addicts. You look at it as a choice of life. I can speak from an addicts point of view. Addicts are born, not made. Somehting is lacking in an addicts mind and if they come across somehting that makes them feel normal or well, they will dive into that. Addiction comes in many forms , but at the end of the day, Addiction is one entity. You speak of your sex addiction, Gene has an addiction to money and power. These things work for you. The other 2 found what you got in substances, unfortunately. So did I. As a recovering addict, alcohol and pills,I can assure you it's hard to let go of your crutch in life. I am still very much an addict,and I need a new addiction, but this time I hope to find a positive addiction. Addiction is stronger than any love, or the self respect of the person. Once you are in deep, it's very hard to just up and quit becuase then you are facing the real world head on with nothing to hide behind, it's scary and difficult. When you were young and bedding all those women, could you have just stopped and walked away? In society, we feel bad for those addicted to food, but we hate the drug addicts and alcoholics. We feel bad for anorexia but hate gamblers who ruin their families lives. Its all addiction at the end of the day and nobody chooses it. Stop the bashing

    • @GARY84ROCKS
      @GARY84ROCKS 3 роки тому +1

      You can't escape the truth. We all have WORK that needs to be done to improve ourselves. Own it. No matter what you choose. "Work" or "don't work"... It IS a choice.

    • @kjmusic99
      @kjmusic99 Рік тому

      also wrong. no one is “born” an addict.

    • @tommywomack9530
      @tommywomack9530 6 місяців тому

      Oh yes, they are born! It runs in families.

  • @lloydcarlinsky2836
    @lloydcarlinsky2836 8 місяців тому

    ABSOLUTE DUH!!! GENE?? Take THAT make up OFF that freakin' defines the avatars known as PISS??

  • @97warlock
    @97warlock 3 роки тому

    they always say Take off the makeup .... They take off the makeup daily , and no mention of the costumes and addons ... maybe stop wearing the makeup & costumes and appear normal.

  • @frostedhead
    @frostedhead 3 роки тому +4

    They didn't want Slash because he was black just like Poison didn't want Slash because was black.

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +10

      Slash was only 16 at the time and not as polished as he was with GnR. THAT is the reason why he didn't get the gig !

    • @radiomindchatter7994
      @radiomindchatter7994 3 роки тому +6

      That's one of the stupidest thing I've heard in the last 24 hrs..

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +2

      @@radiomindchatter7994 truth hurts huh?

    • @radiomindchatter7994
      @radiomindchatter7994 3 роки тому +1

      That isn't truth..that's bullshit. Play that card all you want man

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly 3 роки тому +1

      @@radiomindchatter7994 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 2 роки тому

    Hate to break it to you people, Creatures was garbage!!!! No, Peter it was slowly showing the truth, that Kisss was going down the tube, without the so called drug addicted terrible Peter and Ace!!@ Pathetic, Peter and Ace were amazing and by far the best in the original lineup!!! Stanley is delusional

  • @chrisi123
    @chrisi123 Рік тому +1

    6:16 .......they sold more records then Kiss...eat this PAUL

    • @HappyMachorino-bd8no
      @HappyMachorino-bd8no 5 місяців тому

      ¿Pop usally sells more than
      Hard Rock.
      Madonna probably sold even more.
      Jon Bon Jovi, instead of partying, wanted to discuss with Paul and Gene how to do business.
      They asked Paul to write songs together. Paul contacted Demond Child.
      Finally, without Paul's help and Desmond Child:
      could they have sold anything?

  • @LEIFanevret
    @LEIFanevret Рік тому

    What ive heard from someone inside the camp! Record company forced them to put down the make up thing! In order to keep the record deals