@@jakobbraun5180 Spiner plays the role of a machine so well, I can easily see him playing the T-1000 in Terminator 2 just as good or even better than Robert Patrick.
And most of the times it's great that out emotions get in out way. Our feeling of outrage, disgust, offense, empathy, love, among others is what makes us prone to being more kind and cordial than just pure logic. Only Vulcans think that the need for many outweighs the need for the few and decide on their own. Usually humans when they think like that end up sacrificing others and not themselves.
It's something I've always wanted. I remember this episode when it first aired. It alway stuck with me.... I've practiced for years and I can only subdue my emotions for only so long. I'll get mental fatigue if I keep focusing too intensely.
Humans have for years and years trained in emotional discipline. Sure you can never turn them off completely, but there are ways to drastically decrease the affect they have on you. Not that I would advice anyone to take this to the extreme. Emotions while troublesome, serve a purpose, and makes life worth living.
I remember seeing this in theaters and people laughed when Data turned off his emotion chip but this is actually important considering how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots. It would have been disastrous if Data were to panic in a critical situation and screw up.
When Data said that he wanted to be deactivated and started beating himself up when La Forge got captured Picard was like “That’s out of the question.” “Hell no!” “You’ve made it this far and it’s about time that your ass felt something.” Lol.
Figure it's because in that situation Data was trying to essentially give up and Picard was pushing him to process his emotions rather than just stop. But in this case it's an immediate life-or-death situation, and Data can shut the chip off rather than having to shut himself off.
@kamalalsb7292 Data was lucky he could shut his emotions off when they became inconvenient so that he didn't panic in a critical situation and screw up. Especially since Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots.
I was emotionally blunted for a decade. I've came of the prescription that did that to me. Dealing with anxiety and insomnia for the past few weeks, this now hits differently. Data I too envy you; I envy you a lot. But we humans need strong emotion to function, getting hit with 10 years of emotion over a few days has left me at best anxious at worst permanently disturbed lol. Anyway, TMI right, it's a solid scene from one of the best Star Trek films, must have watched this at least 20 + times.
I think Data is lucky he can switch off his emotions when they become inconvenient considering how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities. It would be disastrous if Data were to panic and screw up in a critical situation. His brother, Lore, probably couldn't turn off his emotions and was more prone to losing his temper and lashing out at people or destroying things out of frustration. Also disastrous due to his superhuman strength and abilities.
It's weird, but I feel like I actually have done what Data has done in a sense before. I have occipital neuralgia, which can be overpoweringly unpleasant to the point of just curling up in a ball at home, but when I'm at work and it happens (I'm on medication for it now which has helped a lot so it happens infrequently) I kind of just do what Data does here and think to myself "I am a machine. This is just a body the pain it experiences is just a sensor beeping." And it WORKS. I go through the motions of emotion as it were, and fatigue and everything, but just visualizing and telling myself that I'm not affected by any of it really as a machine with a purpose is oddly helpful.
It does seem to be possible to just stop a lot of emotions - both positive and negative. Actually you've just given me a fun idea. Imagine someone makes you laugh really hard, but then part way through you just... decide to stop. That'd probably freak them out. Doesn't work so well for emotions that bring chemical changes though. You can't will away adrenaline caused by stress. Also obviously it won't work for chronic things, like depression.
@@alansmithee419 funny you should mention that- when we were younger, my younger brother would sometimes do this thing where he'd start crying ON COMMAND. Like, full desperate "the world is crashing down around me" sobbing and shaking his head when people asked if he was acting or not. Then after a minute or two he'd just turn it off. He would talk about it beforehand but it was still very eerie
Now, if this was the Prometheus with its 'holo emitters on every deck' for the EMH Mk II.....then simply engage the Holodecks and get an endless supply of reinforcements to fight the Borg haha :D *Safeties off!!
“Computer, activate Emergency Combat Hologram. Target Borg. Enable.” “My EMH counterpart won’t know where to start putting you back together when I’m through with you.”
Although considering the Borg's abilities, one of the first things they'd do is disable such a function, or worse, assimilate the technology and use it against the crew.
Unrelated to Data's emotion chip, am I the only one who finds the Borg-assimilated Federation starship interiors creepier than the Borg ship interiors? There's just something "wrong" about the mixture of Borg and Starfleet aesthetics.
It's a sense of corruption. You know what is supposed to be there, and when it's been superimposed by that something else, replaced even, it gnaws at your sense of what is supposed to be there.
Had a long discussion about "if logic or emotions rule"...I posted this link at the end to underline my point. We all crave to not feel all the time...some just accapted their emotion, not realising that they gave up.
Have you considered that you might be somewhere in the autism spectrum? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. In fact it could well lead to being an evolutionary step for us.
It would have been funny - and I think keeping in line with the Soong character - if Data had to grab his crotch or scratch his ass to turn off his emotion chip.
Given Soong, Lore AND Data's fondness for musicals and show tunes - he's more likely to have required that Data do a few stanzas of I am the Pirate King to turn it off XD
@@Angyali “that would simply belong in a parody my good sir, that is far too silly and humorous for star trek or as my friends call it starrus trekkus. we are intellectuals you see, we do not enjoy crude humor such as tickling one’s scrotum or giving one’s posterior a scratch. these are simply things people do, they are not funny. you simply must mature if you are to enjoy star trek to the highest caliber” -you, that’s what you sound like
You know, i've always wondered why the federation doesn't "replicate" better weapons for fighting the borg in situations like this. slug throwers with micro-transporters for example.
I think it would only be good to be able to shut off our emotions when they become a hindrance. Data is lucky he can have his emotions when they're safe and convenient and then shut them off in a critical situation so that he doesn't panic and screw up. That's really important considering how much Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots.
It may sound good and it can be reached through fear, depression, burnout and self loathing, eventually apathy wins and you just stop caring but there is no upside to this life. I have no motivation and not desire to do anything, I only work because I do not want my life to become worse but if it does then I will live that life until it changes again. Don't give up on emotions because you won't have the energy to miss having them.
Apathy is the 'emotionless' emotion. A wonderful contradiction in terms. As a part of a Schizoid disorder, I am stuck with it daily. No motivation, no particular care about myself, my life etc. Detachment on an extreme level. Emotion itself still occurs but I'm shut off from experiencing it. It has its benefits at times, but you lose a hell of a lot more.
I dunno if it's because I'm autistic or what, but if I get overwhelmed by emotions, sometimes those emotions just shut off. Like my brain is going "Hey this is too much, turning it off for now."
I think some neurotypical people sometimes get something a bit like that as a response to extreme stress. Like sometimes in emergencies you feel very detached and unexpectedly calm. Then after the fact as your adrenaline etc come back down then often the emotions come flooding in and the magnitude of what was happening kind of hits you.
@@junbh2 I think it just happens to me more often because I always feel like I'm being tortured to some degree, even on the good days. Clothes are uncomfortable, but I'm uncomfortable without them as well. Skin is always itchy no matter what I do or don't do about it. World is always either too noisy or too quiet, too hot or too cold. My hair bothers me. I get hungry every three hours but because of my depression, I rarely have an appetite. I'm always tired to some degree no matter how much or how little sleep I get. So yeah, every waking moment of my life is torture.
Funny thing about Data's emotion chip is that the humour and emotions are already there. Copious examples are present in which people typically don't realise the mockery's of things and humour aspects. Think of things a bit like being told something serious in which when you take a step back and look at it, you break it down and say it another way in which the humour is realised, so you can't help but find it amusing. Rowan Atkinson does it well, but theres quite alot more to it in general. Difficult to define really. For Data then there is a situation when the humour and personality already he already has within him, is perhaps treated akin to potential energy, perhaps akin to a power saving mode or stabiliser, a bit like a laughing gas converter or suppressor, maybe utilising it in a different way as the humour in/of things is so extensive, it is difficult to function efficiently without the humour being a bit disruptive physically or mentally. There is then the potential of the pathways being as being constructive or disruptive akin to laughing so much you can't breathe as normal or have the neccesary pressures or flow for processes such as with the chambers of the hippocampus and the associated chemicals for example. As with humans the emotions are difficult to tame, but for data the nature of being an android made of different materials being polymers rather than organic as other lifeforms are, may be part the trouble with difficulties being a bit less sensitive, or perhaps lesser developed in that aspect, or perhaps more complex in regards with making more connections and remembering and knowing more, potentially also by nature of being faster or potentials to be faster in a sense. Perhaps then the nature of the chip is the trouble as it may be an all on or all off type of device rather than a pressure type of device. Thinking of the numbers stuff I shared a few posts ago explaining the number 10 in the maths I created, there is the Quantum potential comparison with which perhaps for data the sensor is something utilised with a computation such as a single state which there is another state there aswell overlooked, which is what could probably help serve as a regulator. I spoke about the 4 quantum states about a year or two ago explaining how the 2 mid states can be perceived as being 1 state where 1 is non existent and the same thing as another state, making 3 states, but also having potential for the 4 states. There is then also potential for more states as the complexity develops as the basics become more complicated by things such as physics for example, for lack of better term as there are essentially stages in between processes of which there could be more states, or sub states, such as the human body has really as I have discovered and shared a few weeks ago some of the core systems to get to the subsystems, helpful to the NHS and medical medicine in regards with drug delivery and generally helpful and insightful in many ways as the body is like a computer system, potentially including sub-light communication systems aswell such as Startrek utilises for their communications systems. I have actually shared information showing details of this type of system aswell most recently... People will likely see and hear about such things soon enough I'm sure... 🤔
Yup, I envy him. Turning it all off would be a huge improvement over what I usually experience. But then I'd feel nothing about doing terrible things. However, I'd have no motivation to do them unless they were logical for some reason. But without a behavior-modifying evaluation of internal state, logic has no appeal, and there would be no motivation to perform logical actions or avoid illogical ones. Just sitting here would eventually kill me in one of endless possible horrifying ways, none of which I'd be motivated to avoid, because there would be no evaluation of the internal state predicted for these events. (Hi, I'm autistic, pleased/unirritated to meet you.)
If everyone could do that before they decided to do something awful, it would save a lot of agony in the world. If everyone could do that AFTER they decided to do something awful, there would be no limit to the agony .
Semi related - it is for that reason that if we go to the stage that such androids existed as companion robots I would not trust them. It's just as easy to go from 'anxious' to 'calm' for an AI as it is to go from 'friendly' to 'homicidal hostile'.
In Data's case, it's important to consider how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities. They can't afford to have Data panic and screw up in a critical situation.
Being newly implemented I'm fairly sure there was no way to turn off the chip at the time. Back in Generations Picard had mentioned that the chip had fused with data's neural network and could not be removed.
Picard was a special case, he was given the name Locutus and selected to be a tactical bridge between the Borg and humanity, he was also most importantly off ship. The crew in this film are turned in to Borg drones, they have no higher purpose than to assimilate the ship and it's crew. It took the whole crew working together to liberate Picard, they simply didn't have the resources or ability to start to save their crew, they had a higher mission goal, saving Earth.
Learn Logic....it helps. Framing all your experience as a logical construct, scientifically testable, you will find that emotions will take more and more of a backseat!
@@Elly3981 But I wonder how much our emotions are tied to our thought process? Would we still think the same way, only unemotionally, or would our thinking be completely different?
@@Durwood71 I think we won't think differently but will at least be able to stay calm enough to think rationally. In Data's case, Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get out of tight spots like the scene where he had to lock out the main computer so they can't afford for him to panic and screw up.
No, he used the chip Dr. Soong created for him. Which was stolen by Lore. Then later recovered. But was said to be damaged. And was installed in the previous movie where it didn't work right. And now he can just shut it off. Oh and ever time it's shown it changes size.
@@Spacegoat92 when you cant detect emotions or sensations well and you supress what you feel. I can turn off my fear and do dangerous things. I can block pain. Sounds cool but im in danger constantly. I can get shot and not feel it or notice. Ive been stabbed and didnt know until i was told i was bleeding. Turning emotion on is the hard part. And it kills relationships. Like data i have to mentally do everything instead of feel.
@@dixbowman3452 Wow. But I bet your blood pressure is nice and healthy. LoL. I'd happily like to be able to turn off my emotions at times. They've caused me more trouble than they're worth. Lot's of regrets due to being emotional...
@@Spacegoat92 ha. Yeah. My blood pressure is ok. Its hard to know if you are hungry tired sleepy etc. You are always guessing and it stresses your body.
The way Spiner plays this scene is perfect. All anxious and then presto, emotionless android.
True - he was a perfect pic for that role - best android i have ever seen. Spiner is really good in switching emotions and displaying them.
Underrated performer.
@@jakobbraun5180 Spiner plays the role of a machine so well, I can easily see him playing the T-1000 in Terminator 2 just as good or even better than Robert Patrick.
Spiner would have been a great Terminator lol.
I think everyone envied Data here sometimes it would be nice if we could turn off our emotions because sometimes they get in the way.
And most of the times it's great that out emotions get in out way.
Our feeling of outrage, disgust, offense, empathy, love, among others is what makes us prone to being more kind and cordial than just pure logic.
Only Vulcans think that the need for many outweighs the need for the few and decide on their own. Usually humans when they think like that end up sacrificing others and not themselves.
I would never want to be devoid of emotions.
But there are times I wish I could turn them off and be purely rational.
He went through so much before he used the emotion chuip though, it partly drove Lore to go crazy as well.
Pretty sure that’s called being a (psycho/socio/insert herio cause I’m to lazy to google) -path :)
It's something I've always wanted. I remember this episode when it first aired.
It alway stuck with me....
I've practiced for years and I can only subdue my emotions for only so long. I'll get mental fatigue if I keep focusing too intensely.
Whenever I am really stressed out, I think of this scene and wish I had Data's ability to switch my emotions off.
Yeah, me too.
You do, everyone does, you just haven't practiced it enough.
@@CrashSable after a while it becomes easy
sometimes i wish i was data so i could have a big robo dong and give pleasure to lt yarr
I actually do have this ability and its why the police detectives haven't caught me...
"Good idea, sir." *meep* "Done." XD XD XD
"Data there are times that I envy you"
Damn I wish I could turn off my emotion chip...
Humans have for years and years trained in emotional discipline.
Sure you can never turn them off completely, but there are ways to drastically decrease the affect they have on you.
Not that I would advice anyone to take this to the extreme.
Emotions while troublesome, serve a purpose, and makes life worth living.
The only time in history where being told to calm down actually worked.
Thanks for the laugh
@Korsalath bruh...don't always have the time or space or context for such a thing. like where they were at that time...
Yeah the one and only effective 'chill out dude' 😆
If Data was a female android it wouldn't have worked.
Priceless 😂😂😂😂
I remember seeing this in theaters and people laughed when Data turned off his emotion chip but this is actually important considering how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots. It would have been disastrous if Data were to panic in a critical situation and screw up.
Generations be like:
I love how deactivating the chip makes an audible sound to others. Like when has that ever happened lol
Deactivating the chip also causes spasms.
Because movie-makers have no faith in the intelligence of their audiences.
“Good idea, sir.”
*[eyes glow red]*
“D O N E.”
When Data said that he wanted to be deactivated and started beating himself up when La Forge got captured Picard was like “That’s out of the question.” “Hell no!” “You’ve made it this far and it’s about time that your ass felt something.” Lol.
Figure it's because in that situation Data was trying to essentially give up and Picard was pushing him to process his emotions rather than just stop. But in this case it's an immediate life-or-death situation, and Data can shut the chip off rather than having to shut himself off.
@kamalalsb7292 Data was lucky he could shut his emotions off when they became inconvenient so that he didn't panic in a critical situation and screw up. Especially since Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots.
I was emotionally blunted for a decade. I've came of the prescription that did that to me. Dealing with anxiety and insomnia for the past few weeks, this now hits differently. Data I too envy you; I envy you a lot. But we humans need strong emotion to function, getting hit with 10 years of emotion over a few days has left me at best anxious at worst permanently disturbed lol.
Anyway, TMI right, it's a solid scene from one of the best Star Trek films, must have watched this at least 20 + times.
I think Data is lucky he can switch off his emotions when they become inconvenient considering how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities. It would be disastrous if Data were to panic and screw up in a critical situation. His brother, Lore, probably couldn't turn off his emotions and was more prone to losing his temper and lashing out at people or destroying things out of frustration. Also disastrous due to his superhuman strength and abilities.
from nervous nellie to Terminator in less than a microsecond.
nice
It's weird, but I feel like I actually have done what Data has done in a sense before. I have occipital neuralgia, which can be overpoweringly unpleasant to the point of just curling up in a ball at home, but when I'm at work and it happens (I'm on medication for it now which has helped a lot so it happens infrequently) I kind of just do what Data does here and think to myself "I am a machine. This is just a body the pain it experiences is just a sensor beeping." And it WORKS. I go through the motions of emotion as it were, and fatigue and everything, but just visualizing and telling myself that I'm not affected by any of it really as a machine with a purpose is oddly helpful.
It does seem to be possible to just stop a lot of emotions - both positive and negative.
Actually you've just given me a fun idea. Imagine someone makes you laugh really hard, but then part way through you just... decide to stop. That'd probably freak them out.
Doesn't work so well for emotions that bring chemical changes though. You can't will away adrenaline caused by stress.
Also obviously it won't work for chronic things, like depression.
@@alansmithee419 funny you should mention that- when we were younger, my younger brother would sometimes do this thing where he'd start crying ON COMMAND. Like, full desperate "the world is crashing down around me" sobbing and shaking his head when people asked if he was acting or not. Then after a minute or two he'd just turn it off. He would talk about it beforehand but it was still very eerie
Now, if this was the Prometheus with its 'holo emitters on every deck' for the EMH Mk II.....then simply engage the Holodecks and get an endless supply of reinforcements to fight the Borg haha :D *Safeties off!!
“Computer, activate Emergency Combat Hologram. Target Borg. Enable.”
“My EMH counterpart won’t know where to start putting you back together when I’m through with you.”
The Emergency Combat Hologram.
It has robotic chainsaw tentacles. Assimilate that, ye rust-ridden nancies!!!
@@kentonbaird1723 This is the most awesome thing I have ever imagined.
I wouldn’t trust an army of Mathews to save the day.
Although considering the Borg's abilities, one of the first things they'd do is disable such a function, or worse, assimilate the technology and use it against the crew.
That is a perfect exchange right there.
Unrelated to Data's emotion chip, am I the only one who finds the Borg-assimilated Federation starship interiors creepier than the Borg ship interiors? There's just something "wrong" about the mixture of Borg and Starfleet aesthetics.
It's a sense of corruption. You know what is supposed to be there, and when it's been superimposed by that something else, replaced even, it gnaws at your sense of what is supposed to be there.
I wish I could do that..
Yeah, me too.
One of my favourite clips in the world is right here.
I was looking for this clip, thanks for posting.
Had a long discussion about "if logic or emotions rule"...I posted this link at the end to underline my point. We all crave to not feel all the time...some just accapted their emotion, not realising that they gave up.
You even look like a younger version of Data. Lol
Data: "But... I thought you envied me all the time."
I been fairly successful in "turning off" emotions on situations unpleasant.
I have only been succesful in shutting down the "self preservation" chip when I parachuted out of a perfectly good airplane.😁
Have you considered that you might be somewhere in the autism spectrum? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. In fact it could well lead to being an evolutionary step for us.
It would have been funny - and I think keeping in line with the Soong character - if Data had to grab his crotch or scratch his ass to turn off his emotion chip.
Given Soong, Lore AND Data's fondness for musicals and show tunes - he's more likely to have required that Data do a few stanzas of I am the Pirate King to turn it off XD
That would belong in a parody.
@@Angyali “that would simply belong in a parody my good sir, that is far too silly and humorous for star trek or as my friends call it starrus trekkus. we are intellectuals you see, we do not enjoy crude humor such as tickling one’s scrotum or giving one’s posterior a scratch. these are simply things people do, they are not funny. you simply must mature if you are to enjoy star trek to the highest caliber” -you, that’s what you sound like
Great acting by Brett Spiner here
Especially his facial expression when he goes from anxiety to no emotions
You know, i've always wondered why the federation doesn't "replicate" better weapons for fighting the borg in situations like this. slug throwers with micro-transporters for example.
If only we could disable our emotions like that our world would be a better place.
I think it would only be good to be able to shut off our emotions when they become a hindrance. Data is lucky he can have his emotions when they're safe and convenient and then shut them off in a critical situation so that he doesn't panic and screw up. That's really important considering how much Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get them out of tight spots.
"Data turn off your morale and ethics chip and follow me"
I think Data was originally programmed with a set of ethics followed by Starfleet personnel, so he wouldn't be able to shut that part off.
It may sound good and it can be reached through fear, depression, burnout and self loathing, eventually apathy wins and you just stop caring but there is no upside to this life. I have no motivation and not desire to do anything, I only work because I do not want my life to become worse but if it does then I will live that life until it changes again. Don't give up on emotions because you won't have the energy to miss having them.
Apathy is itself an emotion. We cannot escape our brains, no matter how empty it feels, that is still a feeling
Apathy is the 'emotionless' emotion. A wonderful contradiction in terms.
As a part of a Schizoid disorder, I am stuck with it daily. No motivation, no particular care about myself, my life etc. Detachment on an extreme level. Emotion itself still occurs but I'm shut off from experiencing it. It has its benefits at times, but you lose a hell of a lot more.
TNG pretty much turned into the Picard/Data stories (not that I dont like them)
I dunno if it's because I'm autistic or what, but if I get overwhelmed by emotions, sometimes those emotions just shut off. Like my brain is going "Hey this is too much, turning it off for now."
I think some neurotypical people sometimes get something a bit like that as a response to extreme stress. Like sometimes in emergencies you feel very detached and unexpectedly calm. Then after the fact as your adrenaline etc come back down then often the emotions come flooding in and the magnitude of what was happening kind of hits you.
@@junbh2 I think it just happens to me more often because I always feel like I'm being tortured to some degree, even on the good days. Clothes are uncomfortable, but I'm uncomfortable without them as well. Skin is always itchy no matter what I do or don't do about it. World is always either too noisy or too quiet, too hot or too cold. My hair bothers me. I get hungry every three hours but because of my depression, I rarely have an appetite. I'm always tired to some degree no matter how much or how little sleep I get. So yeah, every waking moment of my life is torture.
We all envy Data's ability to turn off his feelings.
Data should already know, after the events of "Generations" to always deactivate that chip during situations like this.
I envy Data. Jeez the day emotion chips can be created I’m getting one.
Picard wanted his Aimbot back.
Wallhacks tho... still not working in Star Trek.
I often think of this scene!
There are times you envy the super strong, super smart being that laughs at the passage of time? You don't say!
Funny thing about Data's emotion chip is that the humour and emotions are already there. Copious examples are present in which people typically don't realise the mockery's of things and humour aspects. Think of things a bit like being told something serious in which when you take a step back and look at it, you break it down and say it another way in which the humour is realised, so you can't help but find it amusing. Rowan Atkinson does it well, but theres quite alot more to it in general. Difficult to define really. For Data then there is a situation when the humour and personality already he already has within him, is perhaps treated akin to potential energy, perhaps akin to a power saving mode or stabiliser, a bit like a laughing gas converter or suppressor, maybe utilising it in a different way as the humour in/of things is so extensive, it is difficult to function efficiently without the humour being a bit disruptive physically or mentally. There is then the potential of the pathways being as being constructive or disruptive akin to laughing so much you can't breathe as normal or have the neccesary pressures or flow for processes such as with the chambers of the hippocampus and the associated chemicals for example. As with humans the emotions are difficult to tame, but for data the nature of being an android made of different materials being polymers rather than organic as other lifeforms are, may be part the trouble with difficulties being a bit less sensitive, or perhaps lesser developed in that aspect, or perhaps more complex in regards with making more connections and remembering and knowing more, potentially also by nature of being faster or potentials to be faster in a sense.
Perhaps then the nature of the chip is the trouble as it may be an all on or all off type of device rather than a pressure type of device. Thinking of the numbers stuff I shared a few posts ago explaining the number 10 in the maths I created, there is the Quantum potential comparison with which perhaps for data the sensor is something utilised with a computation such as a single state which there is another state there aswell overlooked, which is what could probably help serve as a regulator. I spoke about the 4 quantum states about a year or two ago explaining how the 2 mid states can be perceived as being 1 state where 1 is non existent and the same thing as another state, making 3 states, but also having potential for the 4 states. There is then also potential for more states as the complexity develops as the basics become more complicated by things such as physics for example, for lack of better term as there are essentially stages in between processes of which there could be more states, or sub states, such as the human body has really as I have discovered and shared a few weeks ago some of the core systems to get to the subsystems, helpful to the NHS and medical medicine in regards with drug delivery and generally helpful and insightful in many ways as the body is like a computer system, potentially including sub-light communication systems aswell such as Startrek utilises for their communications systems. I have actually shared information showing details of this type of system aswell most recently... People will likely see and hear about such things soon enough I'm sure... 🤔
Data there are times that I envy you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yup, I envy him. Turning it all off would be a huge improvement over what I usually experience. But then I'd feel nothing about doing terrible things. However, I'd have no motivation to do them unless they were logical for some reason. But without a behavior-modifying evaluation of internal state, logic has no appeal, and there would be no motivation to perform logical actions or avoid illogical ones. Just sitting here would eventually kill me in one of endless possible horrifying ways, none of which I'd be motivated to avoid, because there would be no evaluation of the internal state predicted for these events. (Hi, I'm autistic, pleased/unirritated to meet you.)
when shyt hits the fan, worrying about dying can get you killed faster.
If everyone could do that before they decided to do something awful, it would save a lot of agony in the world.
If everyone could do that AFTER they decided to do something awful, there would be no limit to the agony .
that's what mindfulness is for
(not even kidding tbh)
one of the best startrek
"Done." The Iceman cometh.
Semi related - it is for that reason that if we go to the stage that such androids existed as companion robots I would not trust them. It's just as easy to go from 'anxious' to 'calm' for an AI as it is to go from 'friendly' to 'homicidal hostile'.
Is it me or was that the brits classy way of saying "stfu?" lol
Wish we could send a signal to deactivate emotion chips on Congress or the SC!! We could fix many problems in this country!
he still looks pretty on-edge after he deactivates it
Maybe the effect takes a second to wear off.
Man, this would be so useful at work.
at work or at payslavery ?
There's a difference?
@@sephtis Not in our era.
Data FTMFW.
How we all wish we could do this by flipping a switch.
In Data's case, it's important to consider how much Picard and the crew depend on his superhuman abilities. They can't afford to have Data panic and screw up in a critical situation.
I guess he turns it on and off by cracking his neck.
Its almost like the whole TNG and movies and Picard was Data's story
They needed to focus on the two main stars for the movies.
This movie as the scariest the Borg had ever been
@Sunday Girl True, it is.
5 people pressed the MAX button on their emotion chip instead of OFF.
now why couldn't he do this in generations and save geordi from the klingons haha
Being newly implemented I'm fairly sure there was no way to turn off the chip at the time. Back in Generations Picard had mentioned that the chip had fused with data's neural network and could not be removed.
It's not really working because he remains curious about it
so .. Picard basically said he's fucking afraid too...
I like how they advanced his emotion chip.
Sometimes I say the same thing to deaf people
YEAH DATA
One thing I never understood is they rescued Picard so why not rescue ask the crew members who were assimilated?
Picard was a special case, he was given the name Locutus and selected to be a tactical bridge between the Borg and humanity, he was also most importantly off ship. The crew in this film are turned in to Borg drones, they have no higher purpose than to assimilate the ship and it's crew. It took the whole crew working together to liberate Picard, they simply didn't have the resources or ability to start to save their crew, they had a higher mission goal, saving Earth.
They'd lost sick bay, so they didn't have the means to de-assimilate anybody.
Learn Logic....it helps. Framing all your experience as a logical construct, scientifically testable, you will find that emotions will take more and more of a backseat!
Or just get some self-control
Hence why the Vulcans adopted that philosophy across their entire race. 🖖
Like looking through Sonic fanart. That's why I gave it up.
Would've been better without the head twist. But still good
I'm trying to decide if being able to completely disable my ability to experience emotions would be a help or a hindrance.
Being able to deactivate emotions can be useful in a critical situation so you don't panic and screw up.
@@Elly3981 But I wonder how much our emotions are tied to our thought process? Would we still think the same way, only unemotionally, or would our thinking be completely different?
@@Durwood71 I think we won't think differently but will at least be able to stay calm enough to think rationally. In Data's case, Picard and the Enterprise crew depend on his superhuman abilities to get out of tight spots like the scene where he had to lock out the main computer so they can't afford for him to panic and screw up.
We knew who the Borg were as fans..those lines cut to the chase.
Paper chase
So does all the others nameless there.
What's this off? Watched through the whole Next Generation on Netflix for the first time recently, but never seen this episode before. Great stuff.
This is the movie Star Trek: First Contact
Maybe you missed one!
@@ff3player thank you, I was going to ask the same question
Stay frosty.
Captain Picard does a great job of showing no emotions all day long, so there's no need to envy Data.
*beep* done
emoticon chip = 😀😁😂☺😊😎😎😎😎
So... Q didn't give him emotion?
No, he used the chip Dr. Soong created for him. Which was stolen by Lore. Then later recovered. But was said to be damaged. And was installed in the previous movie where it didn't work right. And now he can just shut it off. Oh and ever time it's shown it changes size.
@@RandomAmerican3000 a very magical chip.
Q gave him the ability to laugh for just that one time
I can. I have alexithymia. Trust me its NOT as good as it looks.
What's that?
@@Spacegoat92 when you cant detect emotions or sensations well and you supress what you feel. I can turn off my fear and do dangerous things. I can block pain. Sounds cool but im in danger constantly. I can get shot and not feel it or notice. Ive been stabbed and didnt know until i was told i was bleeding. Turning emotion on is the hard part. And it kills relationships. Like data i have to mentally do everything instead of feel.
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@@dixbowman3452 Wow. But I bet your blood pressure is nice and healthy. LoL. I'd happily like to be able to turn off my emotions at times. They've caused me more trouble than they're worth. Lot's of regrets due to being emotional...
@@Spacegoat92 ha. Yeah. My blood pressure is ok. Its hard to know if you are hungry tired sleepy etc. You are always guessing and it stresses your body.
Which movie is it?
Star Trek: First Contact
Thanks
syncron fail
Bad ass!
lol
click ;D
Aaaaaand this is when I checked out from the TNG movies. Never watched any of the sequels after this one.
you turned off your own emotion chip didnt you...
I mean you are entitled to your wrong opinions
Sometimes I wish I could turn off my girlfriend’s emotion chip