You, Slapshoes and Brock should be working for NASCAR media. You guys are amazing with what you do and it helps fans like me learn history. Thank you for all the work you put in
Awesome to see Buick Chevy, Ford, Oldsmobile and Pontiacs all together on the track at once. Was and still a Pontiac fan, miss seeing all different manufacturers on the track
Vint Varner a lot of us do my man. Both Olds and Pontiac got shut down when GM decided that having the Chinese design and manufacture cars was a good idea. And buick is 100% Chinese, with only a few crossovers remaining in the brand. Besides the camaro, GM has nothing to run in nascar. And I suspect they will pull out of the big leagues in the next few years without having anything to compete in racing. The mighty fell a decade ago. Its just taking a while to catch up with them. The days of having multiple brands on the track is long gone. And as long as these big companies keep holding these nameplates hostage, they will never return.
@@LrulestheworldM8 Olds was shutdown because it was a repetitive brand that stole sales from other GM brands. Pontiacwas shutdown as part of a restructuring and GM needing to reduce the amount of brands. Olds was shutdown a decade before Pontiac and the plan to wind down Olds was started in the early 90s. Pontiac was originally going to be rebranded as a niche performance brand (akin to Dodge is mostly now) but that idea fell through. Oddly enough Pontiac sales were actually on the upswing at the time of their closure. Buick sells very well in China but are not Chinese designed. Most Buicks in the last decade or so have either been rebadged European cars (the regal was just an Opel Insignia) or just badge engineered versions of other GM vehicles.
@@CamaroAmx incorrect. Oldsmobile was shut down after 1999 when the GM-China deal was signed. GM no longer needed an American brand to design and build all of their vehicles, when the chinese would do it for half the cost and double the profit. That move would send them straight into bankruptcy. They wasted billions destroying factories and paying out pensions. Pontiac was destroyed by the corrupt and incompetent obama admins. The brand was planned to survive the bankruptcy scandal and live on to build muscle cars and coupes. The brand sold well for years, and was doing well once again right before the bankruptcy. But once obama and his 2 head czars heard about this, they demanded the brand be shut down. Why? Chinese money. Thats why. Buick, their second worst selling US brand at the time, above hummer, was allowed to live because of how much money they made in China. And so, the great move to China began in 2010. The days of opel being badge jobbed into a buick are now long gone. Opel has been sold to the PSA group. Even then, 3 chinese crossovers have been part of that lineup for the better part of a decade. You can claim 'made in the USA' all you want, the fact is that these crossovers and cars are manufactured overseas, and shipped here on boats either complete, or ready for assembly. Buick hasn't been American for over a decade. And "new GM" still owes the American tax payer $10 billion, which isn't including interest. And we will likely never see that money thanks to the back door deal made by obams and his cronies.
26:46 knowing what we know now about safety, and after all these years of seeing how restricted the drivers are while they’re in their seats….this looks so terrifying.
These would probably be a good documentary series on fox sports and whatnot. Seriously man, you should be getting paid handsomely for the amount of editing and research that goes into these videos.
I was at Talladega when Allison flew into the fence. Then the following year I went to Daytona Speedweeks and saw all the races. I have pretty vivid memories of many of the events. Seeing great videos like this makes me realize the sports history I have witnessed with my own eyes.
AHHH, the golden years of NASCAR! I loved this sport for years rooting for David Pearson, then Bill Elliott, and finally my all time fav Mark Martin. Always rooted for Ford, then the car of tomorrow came out. Every car looked the same, no more real Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Pontiac, Buick, and Oldsmobile. Now, I rarely watch what was once a must see on Sunday.
Robert Burke Same here in Australia V8 supercar We have the Bathurst 1,000 kilometre race It was once a production car race that everyone would stop and watch , well almost everyone
Earnhardt complained constantly about anything and everything. Tires, Ford, Aero, Restrictor Plates, he bitched all of the time. If you claim Rusty, Gordon, and Busch cried, then Earnhardt cried too, more than most.
jason wiggins And he was right. He predicted the demise of NASAR’s popularity as far back as 1997 because of the direction that they were heading. He was also right about the tires. Goodyear tires sucked in comparison to Hoosier but Hoosier didn’t have the money to grease the palms of NASCAR.
The Daytona onboard footage is just awesome man. Especially when Waltrip overtook Davey on the inside. The sense of speed from the footage is worth re-watching. And Rusty looking chill af behind the wheel.
skittlecar1 only 4 manufacturer brand GM 10 front wheel drive replace GM G-Body rear wheel drive Chevrolet Lumina until 1990 Follow by Buick Regal introduced in 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass introduced in 1988 and Pontiac Grand Prix introduced in 1988 aerodynamic shape horizontal 10° rear spoiler one 1/8 restrictor plate underneath carburetor top speed range between Daytona and Talladega car 195 to 200 miles per hour dangerzone NASCAR Winston Cup Series
Your next challenge nascarman.....a story on the V6's of that era. There is very little info out there. And great job finding the clip on the new Buick Regal.
If I'm not mistaken wasn't that the only turbo charged engine in the sport and that's because it was production off the assembly line big horsepower but not reliable for the most part because of high temperature that it puts out
@@skittlecar1 really because I can't seeing it putting out enough horsepower to compete without the turbo and I remember the insignia of the Buick V6 witch implied it was turbocharged I don't know the maximum cubic inches allowed for that time but that had to be a big bored engine to compete the local track back in the day I used to go to would give you a 200 pound advantage if you was running a V6 but that was normally aspirated and on more than one occasion on a hot August night that weight different could be a good thing still could have thought they were turbocharged
Maybe I would have a different opinion if I had to watch all 200 laps in real time, but the racing looked better than what we've had in most restrictor plate races lately. It looked like drafting was advantageous but you didn't have to organize an entire line to get a move done.
I may be wrong but I'd say no splitter and teams with different spoiler angles made the racing different from today's. With many different suspension set ups no 2 cars had the same amount of air under the car. That and a huge difference in spoiler angle made 'stock' cars infinitely adjustable areo wise.
There seemed to be little to know pushing as well. I say get rid of the plates, and let them spread out a little bit, maybe getting more slingshots. Those are very fun to watch.
@@mikeflash4461 they did that in the early 70s when they switched from big blocks to small blocks which worked fine until the cars got smaller in the early 80s and engine technology got better.
@@freddymarcel-marcum6831 I can imagine the adrenaline rush would have been crazy though haha (knowing everyone was essentially ok). I'd have some more beers after that for sure!
Those tracks are where a front row seat does not interest me a bit. Put me up a way so I can see more and be farther from the shrapnel and debris zone.
The NASCAR UA-cam community that uploads old races and the history from You to Blackflag to Slap to Danny to Iceberg to Nixon to KKB is basically the NASCAR equivalent to the WWE network. It’s mind blowing NASCAR hasn’t created a network for their fans to watch old races, documentaries, top moments.
Never heard much about the guy. Most of went bankrupt in short time. There was anther lottery winner who fielded a truck in the NASCAR truck series a few years ago. Never heard much about the team after a couple of races.... money doesn’t equal success.
I love this era of stock car racing, these years and the GBody years those are the best looking STOCK cars there were. I forgot about the superbirds and Daytonas those were absolutely beautiful cars.
@@davidschmude, I had not realized how bad Squier was until I started watching old CBS race coverage. Damn motor-mouth, routinely missing track action because he's so enamored with the sound of his own voice. Reminds me of the utter morons found on nearly any pursuit video.
This was fucking awesome to see how the restrictor plate fiasco came into full circle, and how it has impacted all races now and in the future. Thanks for all of this footage.
It just goes to show it matters not how simple a name is, that someone will manage a way to goober it up. Mine has 3 syllables so it's expected to be messed up by people, but come ON Irvan is not a tongue twister.
These names and faces bring alot of Sunday afternoon memories back..Every Sunday was another race to look forward to. Loved it then, hate it now. I was 19 yrs old and my dad and I shared more than one 12 pack together and enjoyed every minute of it.
Nino Nuccio id be disappointed, yes. But not completely turned off by the rule changes. The rule changes these days are so bad that they have determined the outcome of an entire season before the 'chase' even starts. Its pointless to bother racing.
@@NickyD It would absolutely still exist. How many spectators and drivers have died in the INDY series since that Bobby Allison crash happened and yet INDY still exists today? Shit happens, it's part of the sport. Every measure is taken to ensure safety but motor sports will always be dangerous. That's why it says right on the ticket you purchase to attend an event that you waive all liability on the track and the series because you willfully chose to attend a potentially dangerous event.
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@@ironpanther2420 Remember when Petty killed a kid back in 65 when he boycotted NASCAR for banning his hemi and went drag racing in a hemi Barracuda ? NHRA is still around.
I don’t mind changes if it’s good. But if it’s a change that is not racing related and has non-racing gimmicks, the Motorsports fans like myself have the rights to complain
Imagine how great Speedweeks would be with 70 car’s competing for 43 starting spots now a days. I’m barely old enough to remember the late 80s and early 90s but I love watching these old videos. Thanks for making these
@@CertainlyCaro safety became a big concern, especially after Earnhardt’s, Adam petty’s and Alexander’s deaths. In a 3 month time span we lost 4 drivers. Unfortunately safety costs a lot of money. Plus the most bespoke the cars are, the harder it is to cheat. But bespoke also costs money. Add it all up and unless your a millionaire, your watching at home. No home grown teams today.
I was 5 then and Richmond was already my favorite driver (besides Richard petty). I didn’t understand why he wasn’t racing at the time. Rusty became my favorite driver after that. Never liked Earnhardt ever (didn’t like Gordon either). Already knew waltrip was an asshole (he still is when he’s not camera from what I’ve heard).
At 26:40 , Ricky Rudd look like a giant ,,,, seat, roll- bar, everything so simple,,, safety made such improvment. And ,,,,,,this vidéo is purement gold❤
Man.... The driver's reaction to the restrictors and bunching the field all up into a pack back in '88 is eerily similar to their reaction just now to the new Atlanta Motor Speedway reconfigure/restrictor plate issue (March of '22).
Cool to see Kenny Bernstein in a NASCAR video. Most people know him from drag racing, but he was a NASCAR team owner, too. He up and retired from drag racing (as owner and/or driver) several years ago and I haven't seen or heard of him since then. I wonder what he's doing these days?
Yet another broadcast-quality, well researched informative and entertaining piece you've created! Very well done and thank you for contributing this! (My favorite race of my favorite year in NASCAR!) Just one note: Bobby Wawak's name is pronounced "WŌ-wack." 😉
Bobby Allison appears in NASCAR Thunder 2003 and 04 with the paint scheme he won the 1988 Daytona Busch race with, the Piper Aircraft Buick but on a Dodge Intrepid body.
@@kyleshiflet9952 You have to win nearly all the Lightning Challenges to get him, he the second to last legend you unlock in those games(he's either before or after Tiny Lund). You are in the beginning stages. You need complete the other challenges, on NT2003 you need to take stability off for some of the advanced challenges so you can reel the leading driver in and then turn it back on to try to finish the challenge. That's how I won the majority of the tougher challenges.
That was a weird thing back in the 60s-80s where some big NASCAR races were co-sanctioned by FIA. That way drivers who had FIA licenses could run in NASCAR races without getting a NASCAR license. Back in the 50s and 60s, drivers would be banned from Indycar or NASCAR if they drove in the other series, the series didn't want to lose their drivers to their rivals. By having FIA sanctioning too, drivers like AJ Foyt and Mario Andretti could run NASCAR races without getting in trouble with USAC because... technically... some NASCAR races were "kinda" FIA races.
Worse Coronavirus imported and spread so now we can't even watch the races while we're in isolation. Sheesh. Can we ask all the local small tracks to send race videos to CBS, and all the other networks that might play them for us. We're starving here.
Narration/commentators' sophistry was mind numbing and painful at the same time. 10:55 A man who resents having to be dishonest. 26:00 "The engine is expiring", while accelerating harder down the straightaway. +10sec Real fact, X-pipes were designed to disburse the smoke/residue, F1 adopted the same practice on cylinder head exhaust.(for the same reason) NFL 'drug tester', lol. Richmond was ostracized, DW should have been held to account for slander.
Tim Richmond got the rough end of some serious idiocy from the sanctioning body. So sad dude was bad fast and had crazy talent. Also a mamas boy changing from open wheel too cup because she was worried about the open cockpit. Love that dude a real rockstar too me
1st 500 i watched in full , it wasn't aired until here 18hrs later around midnight and being a school night i had to wait until the next afternoon ( I can't recall it being shown in Australia pre-1984 either )
They said resstrcitor plates were necessary to keep the fans safe, but the racing we've seen in the last 10 years has caused more cars to fly into the catch fence than the 10 years before restrictor plates. The problem isn't necessarily the speed these days, it's the cars being bunched up, which is caused by the cars being limited and running flat out.
Chris Econamaki did a story about Tim Richmond in one of the introductions to one of the races, in that piece Darrell Waltrip said he wasn't "surprised" on who it was that failed a drug test meaning Richmond. What bothers me is Tim Richmond lied over and over about having AIDS and yes times and knowledge about it where different and scares, but he should have admitted it. Also: Richard Petty said in the lead up to the 500 that he was still having fun.. when Linda Petty went to the care center after the wreck she reportedly yelled;"Are We Having Fun Yet!!"
I understand why he didn't admit it. His career would've been over immediately and he knew it. He worked his entire life to get to that point and for it to be over in the blink of an eye is a hard pill to swallow. Also, just like other people didn't understand AIDS at that time, neither did Tim. For all he knew he could beat it in a few months and be back to normal in no time. In hindsight it's easy to disagree with him and vice versa but I understand both sides of the issue.
It's easy to forget just how little we knew about AIDS in the late 80's. It literally was a death sentence at that time, and yes, there was great stigma to admitting you had it, because it was quite terrifying. Remember, other than knowing it was transmitted sexually, the general public knew almost nothing else besides the name. The stigma around AIDS at that time had nothing to do with homophobia, and everything to do with fearing death by incurable disease.
But again, think of the times. Kokomo a year prior ran Ryan White out of town because he had AIDS. AIDS was seen as a “gay disease”. Freddie Mercury had to hide his AIDS diagnosis at that time period. Imagine Tim Richmond coming out as having AIDS in a sport largely dominated by those from the Southeast. And it’s strongest support being from that region of the country too. A relatively safe assumption to make would be Richmond’s career being done for regardless of what he did. NASCAR did him VERY dirty, no doubt about it, but his career was probably toast regardless of what happened or what he did.
Can you tell us why Tim Richmond needed to spill his medical records to the public for NASCAR? They thought he was on drugs and INVENTED a drug test rule with him in mind and he passed it, after the false-positive THEY created. Having accomplished proving he was drug free, they then demand his medical records too. Had he provided them there'd be another hurdle waiting I'm sure. My point is driving a race car is not a sport where you would contaminate other competitors with bodily fluids, don't you think?
They did a lot better job of teaching the fans back then...lol I never understood why NASCAR didn't choose to run a smaller engines on Super Speedways? 289cid V-8 Or 305cid V-8 9 to 1 compression 2 barrel carburetor With a rearend gear limit...lol
It is utterly bizarre to someone of my vintage to hear there was a time when Dale in the black Goodwrench colors was considered an unfamiliar sight, but then again I guess it's similar to when I first learned of Michael Schumacher when I was really little and he was still driving for Benetton, and then he went Ferrari red one year and the rest was history.
Without those restrictions there would have been a car already in the stands before the 90s started. Yeah I hate them. I'm a screw driver safety kinda guy. But these are spectators. Children in those stands.
It's a reflection of how things were at the time, with Tim Richmond feeling unable to reveal he was dying of AIDS, due to the disgusting prejudice aimed at those who had the deadly disease. These days, he would have been given support for his illness
Great video! I've been on a kick of watching vintage NASCAR videos lately and your channel started popping up in my recommended videos. I have subscribed and enabled notifications for new videos and I'll be binging on existing videos in the meantime. I miss these days of NASCAR racing. All of these drivers, car manufacturers, sponsors. I was a diehard fan well into the 2000s. I used to record EVERY SINGLE RACE and bought new blank VHS tapes to do so. None of that recording over old races, I had seasons upon seasons of races recorded to rewatch any time I wanted. I still watch here and there, but I definitely don't record anything anymore and haven't in over a decade. I think a fellow UA-cam creator, Urinating Tree, sums up what happened to the sport pretty well in the video at the link I pasted in this comment. Be forewarned. the guy pulls no punches and there is graphic language. It's worth a watch just for the laughs. ua-cam.com/video/F2BILMQHZ6A/v-deo.html
You, Slapshoes and Brock should be working for NASCAR media.
You guys are amazing with what you do and it helps fans like me learn history.
Thank you for all the work you put in
S1ap yesterday, Nascarman today.
I am at peace
I'm fascinated by this era of NASCAR. Thank you to the creator of this video. Well done.
Make no mistake, this is THE greatest account for NASCAR history and footage. This is good stuff, the best
And for Indycar too!
Tim Richmond's story needs to be made into a movie.
They say days of thunder was partially based on Tim Richmond. I say about 10% of that is true.
@@charlenemarcks7483 I want a biopic about him or something like Ford vs Ferrari that focuses on his struggles with Aids in 87
There is a 30 for 30 on him but a movie would be really cool
A biopic about him would be very cool and interesting
@@jamiedoughty6703 I would love to see it too, including the aftermath after his death.
Awesome to see Buick Chevy, Ford, Oldsmobile and Pontiacs all together on the track at once. Was and still a Pontiac fan, miss seeing all different manufacturers on the track
Vint Varner a lot of us do my man. Both Olds and Pontiac got shut down when GM decided that having the Chinese design and manufacture cars was a good idea. And buick is 100% Chinese, with only a few crossovers remaining in the brand. Besides the camaro, GM has nothing to run in nascar. And I suspect they will pull out of the big leagues in the next few years without having anything to compete in racing. The mighty fell a decade ago. Its just taking a while to catch up with them.
The days of having multiple brands on the track is long gone. And as long as these big companies keep holding these nameplates hostage, they will never return.
Say thank you Toyota for buying NASCAR and pushing Dodge out.
Agree 100% miss my pontiacs
@@LrulestheworldM8 Olds was shutdown because it was a repetitive brand that stole sales from other GM brands. Pontiacwas shutdown as part of a restructuring and GM needing to reduce the amount of brands. Olds was shutdown a decade before Pontiac and the plan to wind down Olds was started in the early 90s. Pontiac was originally going to be rebranded as a niche performance brand (akin to Dodge is mostly now) but that idea fell through. Oddly enough Pontiac sales were actually on the upswing at the time of their closure.
Buick sells very well in China but are not Chinese designed. Most Buicks in the last decade or so have either been rebadged European cars (the regal was just an Opel Insignia) or just badge engineered versions of other GM vehicles.
@@CamaroAmx incorrect. Oldsmobile was shut down after 1999 when the GM-China deal was signed. GM no longer needed an American brand to design and build all of their vehicles, when the chinese would do it for half the cost and double the profit. That move would send them straight into bankruptcy. They wasted billions destroying factories and paying out pensions.
Pontiac was destroyed by the corrupt and incompetent obama admins. The brand was planned to survive the bankruptcy scandal and live on to build muscle cars and coupes. The brand sold well for years, and was doing well once again right before the bankruptcy. But once obama and his 2 head czars heard about this, they demanded the brand be shut down. Why? Chinese money. Thats why. Buick, their second worst selling US brand at the time, above hummer, was allowed to live because of how much money they made in China. And so, the great move to China began in 2010. The days of opel being badge jobbed into a buick are now long gone. Opel has been sold to the PSA group. Even then, 3 chinese crossovers have been part of that lineup for the better part of a decade. You can claim 'made in the USA' all you want, the fact is that these crossovers and cars are manufactured overseas, and shipped here on boats either complete, or ready for assembly. Buick hasn't been American for over a decade. And "new GM" still owes the American tax payer $10 billion, which isn't including interest. And we will likely never see that money thanks to the back door deal made by obams and his cronies.
I was today years old when I noticed Hendrick’s team manager was named Jimmy Johnson. Amazing.
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@sticklift yeah. He's got that.
There's a lot of famous jimmy Johnsons out there.
Same. 11-11-2020
I was today's years old?
26:46 knowing what we know now about safety, and after all these years of seeing how restricted the drivers are while they’re in their seats….this looks so terrifying.
Still sad that Bobby pretty much lost all his memory of his win from his Pocono crash later that year.
Yeah, and of that whole season. Had he not gotten hurt, Bobby might have raced beyond '88 even into '92 when his son was racing at Yates.
Evan Williams Davey Allison was drive for Harry Ranier racing team from 1987 to 1993 era
Jeffrey Robertson Robert Yates bought the Ranier team in 1988.
Mitch Brown I enjoyed listen scene Vault podcast interview Harry Rainier son Lorin Ranier about Davey Allison in 1987
@@evanwilliams6406 I think bobie woulda raced another 5 years an got 5 to 10 more wins an coulda won a championship.he was capable
These Videos make me long for a better time. I hate the current state of this sport
Matt Kostuch yeah now the sport seems too gimmicky this time was much more straightforward
Just wait til next year. Swapping to a six speed with paddles.
Matt Kostuch When is NASCAR coming to Niagara Falls CANADA they built a track 5 years ago
@@TheA53ford i am 99% we are NOT DOING THAT
Why would ever do that
Nascar knows what they need for good racing but they just dont
Your documentaries are pure gold. Should be shown on tv!! Keep up the great work man
These would probably be a good documentary series on fox sports and whatnot. Seriously man, you should be getting paid handsomely for the amount of editing and research that goes into these videos.
I was at Talladega when Allison flew into the fence. Then the following year I went to Daytona Speedweeks and saw all the races. I have pretty vivid memories of many of the events. Seeing great videos like this makes me realize the sports history I have witnessed with my own eyes.
And the cars still hit the catch fences with restrictor plates
That’s why they added hood and roof flaps which work most of the time.
Nothing makes dragging my ass to work easier than seeing a nascarman video fresh out of the oven
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You and S1ap make some of the best NASCAR documentaries on UA-cam.
The 1988 500 on CBS intro and starting lineup music was awesome classic 80's
AHHH, the golden years of NASCAR! I loved this sport for years rooting for David Pearson, then Bill Elliott, and finally my all time fav Mark Martin. Always rooted for Ford, then the car of tomorrow came out. Every car looked the same, no more real Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Pontiac, Buick, and Oldsmobile. Now, I rarely watch what was once a must see on Sunday.
Robert Burke Same here in Australia V8 supercar We have the Bathurst 1,000 kilometre race It was once a production car race that everyone would stop and watch , well almost everyone
I suppose it doesn't matter anymore we don't make a car in Australia now
@@neilrevhead9941 They were at least doing it right, didn't they pull a body off the assembly line and make it a race car?
Tbf Gen 4 cars didn't have much brand recognition anyway, they were just molded and twisted (sisters) metal
Despite how good he was at it, Dale Earnhardt spent most of his career criticizing restrictor plate racing.
Earnhardt complained constantly about anything and everything. Tires, Ford, Aero, Restrictor Plates, he bitched all of the time. If you claim Rusty, Gordon, and Busch cried, then Earnhardt cried too, more than most.
@@jasonwiggins6137 maybe because he knew what was right, and what wasn't right.
@@watchgoose That's fine, but you can't call others cry babies for doing the exact same thing. Earnhardt fans have always been hypocrites.
jason wiggins And he was right. He predicted the demise of NASAR’s popularity as far back as 1997 because of the direction that they were heading. He was also right about the tires. Goodyear tires sucked in comparison to Hoosier but Hoosier didn’t have the money to grease the palms of NASCAR.
jason wiggins you sound like a fan of the rainbow warriors...............gay
The Daytona onboard footage is just awesome man. Especially when Waltrip overtook Davey on the inside. The sense of speed from the footage is worth re-watching. And Rusty looking chill af behind the wheel.
This was my 1st Daytona Speedweeks as a fan, I was 5, no wonder I became obsessed with this wonderful sport lol.
it was my 2nd. i was 6 and still have vivid memory of petty rolling along the wall.
You guys and S1ap make some of the best Nascar content on UA-cam. And probably anywhere, in my opinion.
Bro your content is top tier. The way you use those old news clips and announcers gives such nostalgia. Sets the time period nicely
I want Matthew McConaughey to play Tim Richmond in a bio pic.
totally fits the bill
Checks out.
Perfect casting.
Watch him in Dallas Buyers Club.
It can definitely work.
I can totally see that.
Restrictor plates make big ones more common, but there were also a lot of big ones at plate tracks before them.
Plates were necessary at the time. Safety was still lagging too far behind.
Indeed they just plain closed down a big dirt track in California after a massive crash and reduced it to a 3/8 mi for the safety factor.
It's so weird seeing Cale in the 29 car. I'm so used to him in the 28 car with Hardee's.
That Oldsmobile was hot. What a great looking race car.
skittlecar1 only 4 manufacturer brand GM 10 front wheel drive replace GM G-Body rear wheel drive Chevrolet Lumina until 1990 Follow by Buick Regal introduced in 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass introduced in 1988 and Pontiac Grand Prix introduced in 1988 aerodynamic shape horizontal 10° rear spoiler one 1/8 restrictor plate underneath carburetor top speed range between Daytona and Talladega car 195 to 200 miles per hour dangerzone NASCAR Winston Cup Series
Looked pretty good in that 21, too.
@@skittlecar1 To me it was more aerodynamic than that Buick Allison won with. Still can't believe that car was that fast, must have been all motor.
I like to see a story about Cale's win in 1983.
Your next challenge nascarman.....a story on the V6's of that era. There is very little info out there. And great job finding the clip on the new Buick Regal.
If I'm not mistaken wasn't that the only turbo charged engine in the sport and that's because it was production off the assembly line big horsepower but not reliable for the most part because of high temperature that it puts out
@@sillygoose2508 They never ran the turbo in NASCAR. They did in IndyCar.
@@skittlecar1 really because I can't seeing it putting out enough horsepower to compete without the turbo and I remember the insignia of the Buick V6 witch implied it was turbocharged I don't know the maximum cubic inches allowed for that time but that had to be a big bored engine to compete the local track back in the day I used to go to would give you a 200 pound advantage if you was running a V6 but that was normally aspirated and on more than one occasion on a hot August night that weight different could be a good thing still could have thought they were turbocharged
Yes this would be a very interesting topic.
@@skittlecar1 What v6 would ever push enough power to run 200MPH without a turbo?
Im blown away by how much footage you found. That CBS music should make a come back as well.
My favorite Daytona 500. This documentary about it is pretty much the best thing out there. Thanks so much nascarman & Brock Beard. You guys rock!
Maybe I would have a different opinion if I had to watch all 200 laps in real time, but the racing looked better than what we've had in most restrictor plate races lately. It looked like drafting was advantageous but you didn't have to organize an entire line to get a move done.
I may be wrong but I'd say no splitter and teams with different spoiler angles made the racing different from today's. With many different suspension set ups no 2 cars had the same amount of air under the car. That and a huge difference in spoiler angle made 'stock' cars infinitely adjustable areo wise.
There seemed to be little to know pushing as well. I say get rid of the plates, and let them spread out a little bit, maybe getting more slingshots. Those are very fun to watch.
Never understood why instead of plates NASCAR didn't mandate a smaller less powerful (daytondega) engine. It would fix the pack problem straight away.
@@mikeflash4461 pull a number out of a hat when you unload. Pull the push rods on that cylinder.
@@mikeflash4461 they did that in the early 70s when they switched from big blocks to small blocks which worked fine until the cars got smaller in the early 80s and engine technology got better.
Just getting into the history of NASCAR I find so interesting. Thank you for your videos!
I was at Talladega when Allison took the fence out. It was a long hot day
I'd be scared shitless if I was anywhere near that thing.
@@freddymarcel-marcum6831 I can imagine the adrenaline rush would have been crazy though haha (knowing everyone was essentially ok). I'd have some more beers after that for sure!
Those tracks are where a front row seat does not interest me a bit. Put me up a way so I can see more and be farther from the shrapnel and debris zone.
88 was the debut of the Initmidator, and I love it
The NASCAR UA-cam community that uploads old races and the history from You to Blackflag to Slap to Danny to Iceberg to Nixon to KKB is basically the NASCAR equivalent to the WWE network. It’s mind blowing NASCAR hasn’t created a network for their fans to watch old races, documentaries, top moments.
13:03 The fastest way to become a millionaire in racing? Start with 2 million dollars.
Never heard much about the guy. Most of went bankrupt in short time. There was anther lottery winner who fielded a truck in the NASCAR truck series a few years ago. Never heard much about the team after a couple of races.... money doesn’t equal success.
@@CamaroAmx Who said anything about "success", besides you.
Second fastest way? Steal the Space Shuttle and sell the scrap out of it.
I love this era of stock car racing, these years and the GBody years those are the best looking STOCK cars there were.
I forgot about the superbirds and Daytonas those were absolutely beautiful cars.
Great work here. I was at Daytona 88/89, Brings back many memories. Subscribed!
7:05: Bob Jenkins: Tim, do you have a drug problem? 7:07: Tim Richmond: No Bob, I don’t have a drug problem.
Damn I miss Dave Despain being around.
Yeah he was alright.
Me too...the good old days.
I was a little young to remember him in Nascar then, but I remember him in the mid/later 90s for a lot of dirt bike stuff.
Damn. I DON'T miss Ken Squier or Chris Econamaki.
@@davidschmude, I had not realized how bad Squier was until I started watching old CBS race coverage. Damn motor-mouth, routinely missing track action because he's so enamored with the sound of his own voice. Reminds me of the utter morons found on nearly any pursuit video.
This was fucking awesome to see how the restrictor plate fiasco came into full circle, and how it has impacted all races now and in the future. Thanks for all of this footage.
Ikr, Especially when you hear the drivers opinions about the restrictor plate.
I like the way BP breaks it down about cars flying through the air.
Ernie Ir-Van
Great video
Swervan' Irvan
I was laughing when I heard that too.....was expecting him to be driving an econoline van lol
It just goes to show it matters not how simple a name is, that someone will manage a way to goober it up. Mine has 3 syllables so it's expected to be messed up by people, but come ON Irvan is not a tongue twister.
Ken Squire also struggles with “garage area” in his time reporting. He always added an extra “r”. “Gararge area” 😂
Swerven Irvan
Another excellent video! Also, 32 years later and we still don't know the name of the '88 Speedweeks theme.
These names and faces bring alot of Sunday afternoon memories back..Every Sunday was another race to look forward to. Loved it then, hate it now. I was 19 yrs old and my dad and I shared more than one 12 pack together and enjoyed every minute of it.
Love NASCAR and love it's history even more, respect and greetings from Dublin Ireland.
Imagine if this change happened now? "OmG, NasCaR iS dYiNg!" This shows the big changes ALWAYS happens.
Nino Nuccio id be disappointed, yes. But not completely turned off by the rule changes. The rule changes these days are so bad that they have determined the outcome of an entire season before the 'chase' even starts. Its pointless to bother racing.
had that car landed in the stands nascar wouldnt even exist today
@@NickyD It would absolutely still exist. How many spectators and drivers have died in the INDY series since that Bobby Allison crash happened and yet INDY still exists today? Shit happens, it's part of the sport. Every measure is taken to ensure safety but motor sports will always be dangerous. That's why it says right on the ticket you purchase to attend an event that you waive all liability on the track and the series because you willfully chose to attend a potentially dangerous event.
@@ironpanther2420 Remember when Petty killed a kid back in 65 when he boycotted NASCAR for banning his hemi and went drag racing in a hemi Barracuda ? NHRA is still around.
I don’t mind changes if it’s good. But if it’s a change that is not racing related and has non-racing gimmicks, the Motorsports fans like myself have the rights to complain
Imagine how great Speedweeks would be with 70 car’s competing for 43 starting spots now a days. I’m barely old enough to remember the late 80s and early 90s but I love watching these old videos. Thanks for making these
@@CertainlyCaro safety became a big concern, especially after Earnhardt’s, Adam petty’s and Alexander’s deaths. In a 3 month time span we lost 4 drivers. Unfortunately safety costs a lot of money. Plus the most bespoke the cars are, the harder it is to cheat. But bespoke also costs money. Add it all up and unless your a millionaire, your watching at home. No home grown teams today.
I was just a tiny tot back then, but I didnt realize all the storylines (aside from the plates and Richmond) leading into this race. Pretty cool.
I was 5 then and Richmond was already my favorite driver (besides Richard petty). I didn’t understand why he wasn’t racing at the time. Rusty became my favorite driver after that. Never liked Earnhardt ever (didn’t like Gordon either). Already knew waltrip was an asshole (he still is when he’s not camera from what I’ve heard).
@26:45 What a view of Rusty Wallace ! Almost Zero protection for the driver compared to today's seats !
25:25 Can we talk about the camerawork in this one shot? Going all around Davey’s car.
Cameramen back in these days had balls of steel. Never took his eyes off the action. :)
@Power5 Yeah, and sitting in the back of the car like that, really good :p
@@MarkPentler lol
Joking aside remote camerawork isn’t as easy as it looks. Better hope you’ve no lag or you’ll never line up a shot!
The work you do is amazing thanks for teaching us all
"Get these unguided missiles under control or lose your insurance coverage." lol
At 26:40 , Ricky Rudd look like a giant ,,,, seat, roll- bar, everything so simple,,, safety made such improvment.
And ,,,,,,this vidéo is purement gold❤
Ya know, I just love these videos. I was only 3 months old during this time. So to get to understand the history os amazing
Really, really well done. I love this channel. Keep them coming!
Cool to hear Dave Dispain again
Man.... The driver's reaction to the restrictors and bunching the field all up into a pack back in '88 is eerily similar to their reaction just now to the new Atlanta Motor Speedway reconfigure/restrictor plate issue (March of '22).
2020s 500 definitely changed the way we look at safety in NASCAR
SIR CHARLIE and boredom.
holy ... i remember been watching cup since 79 ... got me choked up .... ty love it
Cool to see Kenny Bernstein in a NASCAR video. Most people know him from drag racing, but he was a NASCAR team owner, too. He up and retired from drag racing (as owner and/or driver) several years ago and I haven't seen or heard of him since then. I wonder what he's doing these days?
Yet another broadcast-quality, well researched informative and entertaining piece you've created! Very well done and thank you for contributing this! (My favorite race of my favorite year in NASCAR!)
Just one note: Bobby Wawak's name is pronounced "WŌ-wack." 😉
Loved everything about 70's, 80's & 90's NASCAR. Miss everything about 70's, 80's & 90's NASCAR.
Minus the safety changes :-)
I miss that engine sound and that Earnhardt grin
Love these and learn a lot from your work. Thank you!
That was a wacky Speedweeks. I see a new Nascarman video, instantly click. Bravo, well done.
8:35 an AMC Eagle, something you don't see everyday
Great video!!!! I really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work
Bobby Allison appears in NASCAR Thunder 2003 and 04 with the paint scheme he won the 1988 Daytona Busch race with, the Piper Aircraft Buick but on a Dodge Intrepid body.
I never got him I got Sr and Kulwicki
@@kyleshiflet9952 You have to win nearly all the Lightning Challenges to get him, he the second to last legend you unlock in those games(he's either before or after Tiny Lund). You are in the beginning stages. You need complete the other challenges, on NT2003 you need to take stability off for some of the advanced challenges so you can reel the leading driver in and then turn it back on to try to finish the challenge. That's how I won the majority of the tougher challenges.
@@evanwilliams6406 oh ok
20:08 Uh FIA Are you friends with NASCAR?
I mean the FIA owns f1 and formula e but NASCAR WTF?
That was a weird thing back in the 60s-80s where some big NASCAR races were co-sanctioned by FIA. That way drivers who had FIA licenses could run in NASCAR races without getting a NASCAR license. Back in the 50s and 60s, drivers would be banned from Indycar or NASCAR if they drove in the other series, the series didn't want to lose their drivers to their rivals. By having FIA sanctioning too, drivers like AJ Foyt and Mario Andretti could run NASCAR races without getting in trouble with USAC because... technically... some NASCAR races were "kinda" FIA races.
@@nascarmanHistory Oh ok. Guess they did FIA partnerships back then huh.
FIA?
@@bigfuckingcheese yup.
16:20 it irks me when they overemphasize Ernie's last name.
Ernie Ir-VAN
Makes you wonder how that guy would pronounce the word BALL, or Johnson.
Need a set of templates I wana build one of these era
25:25 I didn’t know they had rotating cameras in the cars back then. Sweet shot, too.
1988 was a crazy year not just in nascar.
1988: superstar crashes, no yellow
2020: JOEY GASE CRASHED 2 LAPS TO GO YELLOW YELLOW
Worse Coronavirus imported and spread so now we can't even watch the races while we're in isolation. Sheesh. Can we ask all the local small tracks to send race videos to CBS, and all the other networks that might play them for us. We're starving here.
Narration/commentators' sophistry was mind numbing and painful at the same time.
10:55 A man who resents having to be dishonest.
26:00 "The engine is expiring", while accelerating harder down the straightaway. +10sec
Real fact, X-pipes were designed to disburse the smoke/residue, F1 adopted the same practice on cylinder head exhaust.(for the same reason)
NFL 'drug tester', lol. Richmond was ostracized, DW should have been held to account for slander.
Something no one ever mentions is how close Bobby Allison's car came to the people in the flag stand. 16:20, hey look it's Ernie Ir Van, lol.
Tim Richmond got the rough end of some serious idiocy from the sanctioning body. So sad dude was bad fast and had crazy talent. Also a mamas boy changing from open wheel too cup because she was worried about the open cockpit. Love that dude a real rockstar too me
This is a great documentary. I am not very interested in NASCAR, but I feel deep respect for the Drivers and their staff.
The birth year of The Big One
Goddamn those were some good looking cars.
Really enjoy your video's. Would you consider doing one on the people injured in crashes?
1st 500 i watched in full , it wasn't aired until here 18hrs later around midnight and being a school night i had to wait until the next afternoon ( I can't recall it being shown in Australia pre-1984 either )
I miss Dave Despain so much.
1988 was a great year all around!
I was sixteen then Racing was so cool when I was young I don't even pay attention to it now. Davey Allison 👍👍👍
Like Dale said it's goining to kill some one. And it did himself. Thanks restrictor plates
I never knew waltrip took a crankshaft to the windshield and I watched that race live
You are the best nascar youtuber!
They said resstrcitor plates were necessary to keep the fans safe, but the racing we've seen in the last 10 years has caused more cars to fly into the catch fence than the 10 years before restrictor plates. The problem isn't necessarily the speed these days, it's the cars being bunched up, which is caused by the cars being limited and running flat out.
Chris Econamaki did a story about Tim Richmond in one of the introductions to one of the races, in that piece Darrell Waltrip said he wasn't "surprised" on who it was that failed a drug test meaning Richmond. What bothers me is Tim Richmond lied over and over about having AIDS and yes times and knowledge about it where different and scares, but he should have admitted it.
Also: Richard Petty said in the lead up to the 500 that he was still having fun.. when Linda Petty went to the care center after the wreck she reportedly yelled;"Are We Having Fun Yet!!"
I understand why he didn't admit it. His career would've been over immediately and he knew it. He worked his entire life to get to that point and for it to be over in the blink of an eye is a hard pill to swallow. Also, just like other people didn't understand AIDS at that time, neither did Tim. For all he knew he could beat it in a few months and be back to normal in no time. In hindsight it's easy to disagree with him and vice versa but I understand both sides of the issue.
There was so much homophobia and stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS, no way could he have admitted it.
It's easy to forget just how little we knew about AIDS in the late 80's. It literally was a death sentence at that time, and yes, there was great stigma to admitting you had it, because it was quite terrifying. Remember, other than knowing it was transmitted sexually, the general public knew almost nothing else besides the name. The stigma around AIDS at that time had nothing to do with homophobia, and everything to do with fearing death by incurable disease.
But again, think of the times. Kokomo a year prior ran Ryan White out of town because he had AIDS. AIDS was seen as a “gay disease”. Freddie Mercury had to hide his AIDS diagnosis at that time period.
Imagine Tim Richmond coming out as having AIDS in a sport largely dominated by those from the Southeast. And it’s strongest support being from that region of the country too. A relatively safe assumption to make would be Richmond’s career being done for regardless of what he did. NASCAR did him VERY dirty, no doubt about it, but his career was probably toast regardless of what happened or what he did.
Can you tell us why Tim Richmond needed to spill his medical records to the public for NASCAR? They thought he was on drugs and INVENTED a drug test rule with him in mind and he passed it, after the false-positive THEY created. Having accomplished proving he was drug free, they then demand his medical records too. Had he provided them there'd be another hurdle waiting I'm sure. My point is driving a race car is not a sport where you would contaminate other competitors with bodily fluids, don't you think?
They did a lot better job of teaching the fans back then...lol
I never understood why NASCAR didn't choose to run a smaller engines on Super Speedways?
289cid V-8
Or
305cid V-8
9 to 1 compression
2 barrel carburetor
With a rearend gear limit...lol
It is utterly bizarre to someone of my vintage to hear there was a time when Dale in the black Goodwrench colors was considered an unfamiliar sight, but then again I guess it's similar to when I first learned of Michael Schumacher when I was really little and he was still driving for Benetton, and then he went Ferrari red one year and the rest was history.
he won 3 titles in that wrangler blue/yellow. he was pretty synonymous with it so for him to switch schemes and become better is still a big deal.
and 32 years later. it still doesn't work.
Without those restrictions there would have been a car already in the stands before the 90s started. Yeah I hate them. I'm a screw driver safety kinda guy. But these are spectators. Children in those stands.
Sure, it works. Works great. Best it's been since 1979.
I say let em run
It's a reflection of how things were at the time, with Tim Richmond feeling unable to reveal he was dying of AIDS, due to the disgusting prejudice aimed at those who had the deadly disease. These days, he would have been given support for his illness
These cars had no power steering. Just look at how BIG those steering wheels were.
Your vid’s are fkn AWESOME
Awesome clips 👍
Well done, thanks
Great video! I've been on a kick of watching vintage NASCAR videos lately and your channel started popping up in my recommended videos. I have subscribed and enabled notifications for new videos and I'll be binging on existing videos in the meantime. I miss these days of NASCAR racing. All of these drivers, car manufacturers, sponsors. I was a diehard fan well into the 2000s. I used to record EVERY SINGLE RACE and bought new blank VHS tapes to do so. None of that recording over old races, I had seasons upon seasons of races recorded to rewatch any time I wanted. I still watch here and there, but I definitely don't record anything anymore and haven't in over a decade. I think a fellow UA-cam creator, Urinating Tree, sums up what happened to the sport pretty well in the video at the link I pasted in this comment. Be forewarned. the guy pulls no punches and there is graphic language. It's worth a watch just for the laughs. ua-cam.com/video/F2BILMQHZ6A/v-deo.html
I love The Levi Garrett 5
Classic
These styles are the best.