The smash theory was a poorly explained version of a Matpat theory. The actual theory was that Master Hand and its many forms represent Masahiro Sakurai. It goes from a child with great aspirations, to a young man getting his start, to feeling trapped and shackled by the expectations of all that influence him, to literally breaking down until all that's left is the core of his being, and finally to giving one last stand before leaving for good.
Fun fact, according to The Pokémon Company none of the Pokémon wear clothes. The film makers of the Detective Pikachu movie mentioned that The Pokémon Company rejected their design of Machamp because it looked like it was wearing clothes which they were told Pokémon don't wear and anything that looks like clothes is part of their body. This is also why they cut Sawk from the movie because they couldn't find a way to make its "ki" not look like clothes.
So the costumed Pikachus from X and Y(i.e. Pikachu Libre) just got hella tattooed then? Also I feel like cutting out Sawk wouldn't really be a hard decision considering they almost never show Sawk outside of being paired with Throh, neither of which are very popular or even interesting Pokémon in the first place
@@BinglesP I think they mean that Pokemon's designs themselves are not clothes. Like a Sawk cannot be seen as wearing a Gi and a Hitmonchan can not be seen as wearing a shirt, they have to be perceived as parts of their body. Not that they literally can't wear clothes, otherwise Pokemon Unite would utterly defy that sentiment.
So funny story for the Sonic theory, with that Sonic is just a lab rat. The IDW comics mentioned that topic specifically. Eggman built those as traps to try and stop Sonic, but Sonic just enjoys those parcours. Nearly all the stages are just Eggman trying to stop Sonic but Sonic going out of his way to experience more of those traps cause they are fun to him
Coney learning about the Japanese version of pokemon marrying people and his reaction is great. Also for the biggest gameshow cheater, the one where the wife was coughing a bunch, just... I don't know how they thought they weren't going to get caught.
Tbf it was a clever plan, I could definitely see them getting away with it. I'm sure even dumber plans have worked in the past that just haven't been caught.
They should've had multiple "tells" (IE if she double blinks, shifts her shoulders, or coughs) and only do it for important questions or something like that
@@staticchimera44 They made it look more clever in that clip than it was. In one of the episodes where he had the guy doing the coughing. It's like entirely silent in the studio and then you just hear "COUGH *D* COUGH COUGH" it was so painfully obvious I dunno how they didn't get caught right there and then lmao.
@@Gohka I've seen the entire run, it's not that bad. It's much harder to notice stuff like this when you aren't aware of what's going on. If your friend coughed every time a specific thing happened, you wouldn't notice until quite a while later. This stuff is easier to see in hindsight. The problem is that there's a lot of people in the audience that could at any point notice, plus I imagine there's also a team that specifically looks for cheating methods like this (I doubt it's not something they've considered before). Still, it's not as bad of an idea as it seems, the human mind is much worse at noticing random patterns than you think.
Coney learning about the Human-Like Egg Group is peak content. Did you guys know that Cacnea & Cacturne, Volbeat & Illumise, Spinda, Chimchar & evos, Croagunk & Toxicroak, Pancham & Pangoro, Hawlucha, Clobbopus & Grapploct, and Scorbunny & evos are all in that Egg Group?
Coney sounds like the typical board director that has no idea what makes games good but still does everything they can to intervene and add things they think is cool lmao
Splatoon unironically has my favorite approach to lore and worldbuilding out of any primarily pvp video game I've ever played. EVERYTHING YOU DO AND EXPERIENCE IS CANON. Your character is a kid who loves turf wars, so every match you play is canon. Every song you hear canonically exists and was made by bands and musicians in the Splatoon world. Every weapon is based on or made out of real-life human "artifacts" the inklings dug up (e.g. the new bow weapon is a modified fishing rod, suction bombs are spray paint cans taped to plungers, etc). The attention to detail is incredible. Nothing you do exists without any explanation other than that it's "for the sake of the gameplay." Everything has a canon reason for why it is the way it is, it's so sick. Even after you defeat the guy who runs Salmon Run in the story, the reason why you can keep playing Salmon Run is because the company gets taken over by another character who will most likely be the main antagonist of the next game. I would love to see your reaction to a Splatoon Iceberg someday.
@@thatoneguy9582 it was the game that got me into shooters, highly recommend giving it a shot :) EDIT: but if shooters just aren’t for you that’s fine too!
I remember once hearing about a game show(?) on WBTV that was a parody of American Idol where they started a seemingly legit future singer competition but purposefully picked people who sucked at singing without telling anyone, so when the finalist was crowned on the live stage all of the judges got up, revealed the joke, and brutally yelled at her that she sucked, basically ruining her life on national television Also apparently right before the finale, they lied to the audience that all of the contestants were secretly terminally ill and had the life goal of being on American Idol. How the HELL that would make anything better is beyond me
Just wait until he finds out about that story Tumblr users can't get enough of, about how the "featherless biped" classification of humans was dismissed
The fact that Coney was not told that the past 2 COD games before Infinite Warfare had been futuristic, tech-y jetsuit games already and that it was not in fact anything new or interesting is driving me nuts. You also had Black Ops 2 being set in the future though still retaining grounded gameplay
Not bashing on watch mojo entirely hear, just early 2010s video game theory videos I remember when this god awful "lets take away the fantasy part of this fictional franchise, and say it's some fake deep allegory for loss or being in purgatory, that or everyone is in a coma" theories. They were constantly rehashed again and again lacking any sort of creativity, or even worse, validity. It'd be one thing if everyone had the same idea about same thing, but the same idea for _everything_ , like, have you ever considered the fact the reason why these are called "theories", is because it's a conclusion you come with valid evidence and inferences, not cherry picking the media to bend it to fit your goofy narrative. The coma and purgatory theories don't even work in a vacuum most of the time. So glad we're done with that schtick
I think the first theory is spitting, but it was just explained poorly. The theory pretty much just says that Smash is a representation of Sakurai's life growing up. He goes from playing with toys in 64, to collecting figures in Melee through Smash 4, and Tabuu is a representation of adults judging him for doing things associated with childhood as an adult, and in Ultimate, Galeem and Dharkon represent the demands of the fans and Nintendo to keep making Smash games. Since Ultimate is likely the last Smash game he'll make, it ends with Galeem and Dharkon's defeat and them fading away, meaning he's free of the demands of all these different people.
@@MrPsyren99Ok dang, excuse him for him getting burnt out, It’s not like making video games filled with tons of characters from different franchises isn’t a very easy task.
@@MrPsyren99It’s just a fan theory, loser. Can you believe that some people overwork themselves on their jobs so much that they start to enjoy them less because of the stress? Of course not, you likely never worked a day in your life
Notice that Coney, the self identified "not short" streamer, seems VERY offended and defensive about the Punch Out theory making claims about short people. Curious...
I had no clue about the Fax machine but yeah splatoon is neat as hell, glad to see coney not immediately condemn the franchise like so many times before
I REMEMBER THAT SMASH THEORY! When that game theory video came out I was all over that, it's such a beautiful and kinda depressing theory if you get into it in Detail!
6:34 dude in the chat still comparing ARMS to Splatoon in 2023. I still don’t really understand the whole comparison between the two, especially back in 2017. They might as well start saying “Xenoblade didn’t live up to mario’s standards” or something 😂
I think that all started because Arms was the newest in-house Nintendo IP after Splatoon’s big breakthrough in 2015, and people got their expectations too high, so people started to consider Arms its less popular cousin or something. Both games are good in their own right imo.
2:38 that’s literally just how game design works. Not to mention the many times Sonic has ruined Eggman’s plans or the many times Eggman has tried to kill him.
Fun faact about The Wind Waker part: Miyamoto also hated the artstyle. The developers waited to show him the game until it's reveal so it would be too far in development to cancel.
"Developing Diablo down the line." It was like 10 years from D2 to D3, now its 11 years from D3 to D4. They were 100% wholeheartedly pitching a mobile game.
Play the WiiU version of Wind Waker. There's a sail you can get pretty easily that cuts all sailing time in the game in half. Also, the endgame is almost infinitely better and easier because they cut out the vast majority of wandering from island to island, it's literally 70 percent easier.
The sonic theory, while obviously not an intentional “true story” or canon for the series is a fun theory with an interesting premise it creates. Like if I was a genius scientist who had lab rats that essentially had super powers, I’d want to make sure my tests and and enrichment activities fulfilled their fantasies so they kept doing them so I could keep performing whatever tests I plan on doing.
@CONEY you're one of my favorite streamers. I only usually get to catch you on youtube but I look forward to just about every video you put out. Keep it up my man
Coney, the reason Infinite Warfare was so hated when revealed is because it was the fourth sci-fi CoD in a row. It wasn't doing anything unique by being a sci-fi game, and the trend was started by Ghosts, the most hated CoD game at the time, and Advanced warfare was lackluster. The exo-suit style movement and hero abilities just wasn't jiving with CoD fans, and was getting old. They also made you buy Infinite Warfare to get the remaster of CoD 4 that released alongside it.
its a shame cus dmc devil may cry was gameplay and theming wise hella high tier shame every char is horrid and the story is actually all over the place ALTHOUGH DMC DANTE IS FUNNY AS HELL
Whoever in the comments said that Pokémon fans want to play the same Pokémon game over and over Not even true The franchise has always been innovating and changing things up so I wouldn’t say predictable Predictability isn’t the samething as tradition They have always experimented with new concepts and mechanics Like breeding,natures,abilities, following pokemon, overworld encounters, physical special split, mega evolution,Zmoves, gigantamax/dynamax amie/refresh/camping, even motion controls from let’s go do these features not count as evolving/progressing are these things not ambitious? The restructuring of the traditional Pokémon format by having the third legendary as the main focus not to mention being the first Pokémon games ever to do DLC and the regional evolutions Also the various QoL stuff even having dynamax and gigantamax and you would not have SV without the wild area all of these new ideas and things for the franchise Are these not ambitious I mean all these things have changed the franchise in substantial ways Every generation offers something ambitious is replacing gyms with trials not ambitious? Or making the galar league a tournament like the anime instead of a traditional elite four is that not ambitious Sure none of them have ever been this super drastic But to say it’s “finally evolving” is a bit disingenuous Has the steps in previous games been a bit smaller I mean sure But baby steps and even medium steps is still progression Why do we count this and not those Shouldn’t it all count? Some of these things maybe temporary but they are still creative and ambitious and drastically change the course of the franchise so they count Every game has always been different
Pretty sure its People from Pokémon tbh, though they could maybe be actual humans that just had earth invaded by them considering the settings are all real world places. First 4 gens are japan, 5 is NY, 6 is france, 7 is Hawaii, 8 is the UK but upside down, and 9 is spain. Even many of the spin-off games are in real places
I love the take at the end that the reason Diablo Immortal was successful is their asses did have phones and it's my head cannon now that the "do you guys not have phones" line was a resounding success, reminding Diablo gamers that they do in fact have phones.
Sorry to join in on the Zelda discourse, but Wind Waker and A Link Between Worlds are childhood favorites, so I’ve got to rep them just a bit. For me the relationship between Ocarina and Wind Waker has always been a bit like the one between Mario 1 and Mario 3: the first one is a groundbreaking, genre-defining success, and it’ll always be iconic, but the later one, with the benefit of practice, ends up being a touch more polished, with some nicer level design and a nice new coat of paint. The story’s a lot different, and again maybe not as iconic, but I think it’s really neat and worth a shot. (also, there’s literally not even that much sailing involved, I really don’t get why people even mention it: it would be like complaining that Hyrule Field is too big in Ocarina) As for A Link Between Worlds, even without being much of a fan of some of the other 2D Zeldas I think this one’s fantastic. The item rental mechanic really does a lot to shake things up in the early game, the consumables get streamlined really nicely, there’s lots of things to do in the overworld, and some of the unique mechanics lead to some of the best dungeon and puzzle design in the series. I know it can be easy to pass it over for being a 3DS game (even though honestly I also think a lot of 3DS games go hard) but honestly it’s pretty great. And regarding the problem of feeling lost, I had the same thing happen to me with Link’s Awakening as a kid but ALBW always felt really intuitive to me in how it was laid out, personally I don’t forsee that being an issue. Anyway, sorry if this was cringe, maybe I’m just biased but these are my childhood games so those are just my opinions.
Matpat’s Smash theory duology is utter dogshit and has been a net negative for discourse surrounding the series. It’s given people false ideas about Sakurai’s workflow and has made people convinced that Nintendo keeps him locked in their basement and forces him to make Smash games. People eat it up because barely anyone pays attention to Smash lore outside of women who wrote Brawl fanfiction in middle school
I think you should do the Splatoon singleplayer campaigns, Coney. If you don't like the gameplay much, I get not wanting to play online, but the singleplayer campaigns are where you can find a lot of, if not most of, the lore and stuff which you think are cool. And, y'know, you're not dealing with random sweats online lmao edit: I think the problem with the DmC reboot game is the fact that it was trying to act like it was part of the Devil May Cry series everyone knew and loved already, taking Dante and Vergil and everything and putting a twist on them. If it did that with the gameplay, but had its own original characters and story, instead of hiding under the name of another series - establishing itself as its own thing.. i think that would've done a lot better for it, y'know?
The cod community was mad about infinite warfare because it was a futuristic setting. Guess what two games came out before infinite warfare…. Bo3(futuristic) and Advanced warfare(futuristic) this game was gonna be the 3rd in a row with a futuristic setting. So while on the outside you might think cod was getting shit on just because they were trying something new that is not in fact what was happening. Also people were tiered of getting the futuristic double/triple jump Jetpacks in these futuristic games
Some of the stuff coney likes DmC for are somewhat covered in MGR revengance. It might be goofy, but is still "government bad" and is fun and more loved
Coney as a person that watches all your vids. I am demanding you make a second channel for the stream stuff that just barely doesn’t make a UA-cam vid. I need more content coney. And I know you’ve got stuff cause you will mention stuff your gonna do on stream in vids. I’m not asking for your normal effort involved edited videos but come on man. Monkey want more!!! Edit: Or do more salty bet and we’ll call it even 😉
I thought infinite warfare looked awful when it came out, having played it in the last year I think it has some of the most creative level design in any cod game. Plus the Zombies has the Hoff
I don't know if Coney skipped over it or if WatchMojo didn't include it but in the list of "Top 10 video game reveals that caused backlash", Paper Mario Color Splash should of been up there. I remember when that game was revealed in a Nintendo Direct and as soon as they showed the world map and the card system, everyone and their mom went ballistic over it and how they said they didn't want a Sticker Star 2.
The average Coney video is literally just rolling a roulette wheel. Who knows what the video is about, because the thumbnail and the title are both a form of Anti clickbait
Coney wanting basic action game with action man. Like DmC Donte may cry. Gameplay is great, story, characters and message is hella dated. Plus dev decided new design should look like him. Let's also not forget the way they shat on the old series with interviews and promotions
4:40 Hell yeah! The squids and octopuses hated Mario so much that they got a horrible "deadly water" genetic mutation after they brutally ended Mario's existence. Now, every time you play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Smash Bros Ultimate, remember that Mario is a zombie.
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The smash theory was a poorly explained version of a Matpat theory. The actual theory was that Master Hand and its many forms represent Masahiro Sakurai. It goes from a child with great aspirations, to a young man getting his start, to feeling trapped and shackled by the expectations of all that influence him, to literally breaking down until all that's left is the core of his being, and finally to giving one last stand before leaving for good.
Was about to say wasn't that just a short underdeveloped version of the MatPat theory.
Holy shit
Yeah this
I personally love this theory
Extension: the fact that joker gets arsene in smash means it takes place in sakurais mind palace
Yeah, I rlly loved that theory when it came out, it's such a cool explanation, it's so beautiful and tragic, I gotta rewatch that video man
Fun fact, according to The Pokémon Company none of the Pokémon wear clothes. The film makers of the Detective Pikachu movie mentioned that The Pokémon Company rejected their design of Machamp because it looked like it was wearing clothes which they were told Pokémon don't wear and anything that looks like clothes is part of their body. This is also why they cut Sawk from the movie because they couldn't find a way to make its "ki" not look like clothes.
Hey could I get the source where you got that info if ya have it? I was actually looking for that interview a few days ago but I couldn't find it
So the costumed Pikachus from X and Y(i.e. Pikachu Libre) just got hella tattooed then?
Also I feel like cutting out Sawk wouldn't really be a hard decision considering they almost never show Sawk outside of being paired with Throh, neither of which are very popular or even interesting Pokémon in the first place
@@BinglesP I think they mean that Pokemon's designs themselves are not clothes. Like a Sawk cannot be seen as wearing a Gi and a Hitmonchan can not be seen as wearing a shirt, they have to be perceived as parts of their body. Not that they literally can't wear clothes, otherwise Pokemon Unite would utterly defy that sentiment.
A very strange pattern on Sawk and Throh's bodies if they aren't gis then
So funny story for the Sonic theory, with that Sonic is just a lab rat. The IDW comics mentioned that topic specifically. Eggman built those as traps to try and stop Sonic, but Sonic just enjoys those parcours. Nearly all the stages are just Eggman trying to stop Sonic but Sonic going out of his way to experience more of those traps cause they are fun to him
Coney being completely oblivious to what DMC actually is sounds exactly like every Ninja Theory interview before the game out
True
I mean it's Coney, his opinions are pretty bad half the time. Like for food. But we enjoy his Content anyways.
yeah the dmc bait was low effort even for coney's standards
@@XC11301991 I’d say a little over half the time, but that’s part of his charm
Someone gotta send him a copy of Devil May Cry 1, 3 or 5
Coney learning about the Japanese version of pokemon marrying people and his reaction is great.
Also for the biggest gameshow cheater, the one where the wife was coughing a bunch, just... I don't know how they thought they weren't going to get caught.
Tbf it was a clever plan, I could definitely see them getting away with it. I'm sure even dumber plans have worked in the past that just haven't been caught.
They should've had multiple "tells" (IE if she double blinks, shifts her shoulders, or coughs) and only do it for important questions or something like that
@@staticchimera44 They made it look more clever in that clip than it was. In one of the episodes where he had the guy doing the coughing. It's like entirely silent in the studio and then you just hear "COUGH *D* COUGH COUGH" it was so painfully obvious I dunno how they didn't get caught right there and then lmao.
@@Gohka I've seen the entire run, it's not that bad. It's much harder to notice stuff like this when you aren't aware of what's going on. If your friend coughed every time a specific thing happened, you wouldn't notice until quite a while later. This stuff is easier to see in hindsight. The problem is that there's a lot of people in the audience that could at any point notice, plus I imagine there's also a team that specifically looks for cheating methods like this (I doubt it's not something they've considered before). Still, it's not as bad of an idea as it seems, the human mind is much worse at noticing random patterns than you think.
Coney learning about the Human-Like Egg Group is peak content. Did you guys know that Cacnea & Cacturne, Volbeat & Illumise, Spinda, Chimchar & evos, Croagunk & Toxicroak, Pancham & Pangoro, Hawlucha, Clobbopus & Grapploct, and Scorbunny & evos are all in that Egg Group?
Alright. Who boned the cactus?
@@coolperson677 Idk, but he's probably a Prick
@@coolperson677me 😊
@@coolperson677 😔🤚
ain't no way his ass knows any of those mons
20:44 the 3ds is absolutely goated and coney doesn’t know that you don’t have to play it in public
Coney sounds like the typical board director that has no idea what makes games good but still does everything they can to intervene and add things they think is cool lmao
Coney is entertaining but I'll never put him in charge of anything. As Coney fans, we already know half his opinions are terrible, like for food.
Coney Watchmojo streams are my ultimate guilty pleasure
It’s not mine because I don’t experience guilt watching them
Smash reference
Trueeeeeee
@@epicsause21 Guilty gear reference
@@crayon884 meme of the American Psycho dude walking around with headphones on.
Punch out Make-A-Wish was the best suprise I saw ever. The immediate realization just washing over the whole audience
Splatoon unironically has my favorite approach to lore and worldbuilding out of any primarily pvp video game I've ever played. EVERYTHING YOU DO AND EXPERIENCE IS CANON. Your character is a kid who loves turf wars, so every match you play is canon. Every song you hear canonically exists and was made by bands and musicians in the Splatoon world. Every weapon is based on or made out of real-life human "artifacts" the inklings dug up (e.g. the new bow weapon is a modified fishing rod, suction bombs are spray paint cans taped to plungers, etc).
The attention to detail is incredible. Nothing you do exists without any explanation other than that it's "for the sake of the gameplay." Everything has a canon reason for why it is the way it is, it's so sick. Even after you defeat the guy who runs Salmon Run in the story, the reason why you can keep playing Salmon Run is because the company gets taken over by another character who will most likely be the main antagonist of the next game. I would love to see your reaction to a Splatoon Iceberg someday.
splatoon is one of those games to me where, like. if i liked playing 3d shooters at all i would be all OVER that shit
@@thatoneguy9582 it was the game that got me into shooters, highly recommend giving it a shot :)
EDIT: but if shooters just aren’t for you that’s fine too!
I remember once hearing about a game show(?) on WBTV that was a parody of American Idol where they started a seemingly legit future singer competition but purposefully picked people who sucked at singing without telling anyone, so when the finalist was crowned on the live stage all of the judges got up, revealed the joke, and brutally yelled at her that she sucked, basically ruining her life on national television
Also apparently right before the finale, they lied to the audience that all of the contestants were secretly terminally ill and had the life goal of being on American Idol. How the HELL that would make anything better is beyond me
Got a video link?
Baseball-posting and WatchMojo back to back is like Coney Content Christmas.
Coney finding out that furries are canon in Pokémon was hilarious
Just wait until he finds out about that story Tumblr users can't get enough of, about how the "featherless biped" classification of humans was dismissed
The fact that Coney was not told that the past 2 COD games before Infinite Warfare had been futuristic, tech-y jetsuit games already and that it was not in fact anything new or interesting is driving me nuts.
You also had Black Ops 2 being set in the future though still retaining grounded gameplay
Not bashing on watch mojo entirely hear, just early 2010s video game theory videos
I remember when this god awful "lets take away the fantasy part of this fictional franchise, and say it's some fake deep allegory for loss or being in purgatory, that or everyone is in a coma" theories. They were constantly rehashed again and again lacking any sort of creativity, or even worse, validity. It'd be one thing if everyone had the same idea about same thing, but the same idea for _everything_ , like, have you ever considered the fact the reason why these are called "theories", is because it's a conclusion you come with valid evidence and inferences, not cherry picking the media to bend it to fit your goofy narrative. The coma and purgatory theories don't even work in a vacuum most of the time.
So glad we're done with that schtick
I think the first theory is spitting, but it was just explained poorly. The theory pretty much just says that Smash is a representation of Sakurai's life growing up. He goes from playing with toys in 64, to collecting figures in Melee through Smash 4, and Tabuu is a representation of adults judging him for doing things associated with childhood as an adult, and in Ultimate, Galeem and Dharkon represent the demands of the fans and Nintendo to keep making Smash games. Since Ultimate is likely the last Smash game he'll make, it ends with Galeem and Dharkon's defeat and them fading away, meaning he's free of the demands of all these different people.
What a baby, imagine complaining you have to do a job you choose and are making millions off of. I hope the Yakuza gets to him soon if he's that upset
@@MrPsyren99 worst post 2023, delete your account immediately
@@MrPsyren99Ok dang, excuse him for him getting burnt out, It’s not like making video games filled with tons of characters from different franchises isn’t a very easy task.
@@MrPsyren99It’s just a fan theory, loser. Can you believe that some people overwork themselves on their jobs so much that they start to enjoy them less because of the stress? Of course not, you likely never worked a day in your life
Laughing at children getting a answer wrong on a quiz show is something Coney would do.
Hopefully not when they're deliberately handicapped on a show _he's_ hosting, to be fair
That pokemon theory hits different now that the leaks revealed game freak was straight up writing that 🤣
Notice that Coney, the self identified "not short" streamer, seems VERY offended and defensive about the Punch Out theory making claims about short people. Curious...
the hamster got lost in frontiers 💀
I had no clue about the Fax machine but yeah splatoon is neat as hell, glad to see coney not immediately condemn the franchise like so many times before
Coney thinking the nihilistic views of the DmC reboot are deeper than the 5 Devil May Cry games tackling the values of humanity is really funny to me
I REMEMBER THAT SMASH THEORY! When that game theory video came out I was all over that, it's such a beautiful and kinda depressing theory if you get into it in Detail!
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME AFTER MONTHS OF AVOIDING SPLAT 3 SPOILERS I GET SPOILED BY CONEY'S TWITCH CHAT IN A UA-cam VIDEO?!
Should of played it when you had a chance.
Yeah, that was a random jumpscare but oh well I guess.
8:34 oh god
Coney, I still hate that you decided to play Devil May Cry 2 after DMC: Devil May Cry.
coney reacting to early game theory videos would honestly be a funny stream
5:25 till depth do us part, this song goes ungodly hard
6:34 dude in the chat still comparing ARMS to Splatoon in 2023. I still don’t really understand the whole comparison between the two, especially back in 2017. They might as well start saying “Xenoblade didn’t live up to mario’s standards” or something 😂
I think that all started because Arms was the newest in-house Nintendo IP after Splatoon’s big breakthrough in 2015, and people got their expectations too high, so people started to consider Arms its less popular cousin or something. Both games are good in their own right imo.
2:38 that’s literally just how game design works. Not to mention the many times Sonic has ruined Eggman’s plans or the many times Eggman has tried to kill him.
The Pokemon one aged well
Fun faact about The Wind Waker part: Miyamoto also hated the artstyle. The developers waited to show him the game until it's reveal so it would be too far in development to cancel.
"Developing Diablo down the line." It was like 10 years from D2 to D3, now its 11 years from D3 to D4. They were 100% wholeheartedly pitching a mobile game.
I'm genuinely surprised that Coney has never heard of the Game Show Act. It's a super interesting moment in US history.
All theories like this make me think is that people get way too obsessed with video games made for children.
I mean some of them are confirmed in game like the Splatoon and Pokémon ones. The punch out one is def a stretch tho
Play the WiiU version of Wind Waker. There's a sail you can get pretty easily that cuts all sailing time in the game in half. Also, the endgame is almost infinitely better and easier because they cut out the vast majority of wandering from island to island, it's literally 70 percent easier.
Love the content dude!
The sonic theory, while obviously not an intentional “true story” or canon for the series is a fun theory with an interesting premise it creates. Like if I was a genius scientist who had lab rats that essentially had super powers, I’d want to make sure my tests and and enrichment activities fulfilled their fantasies so they kept doing them so I could keep performing whatever tests I plan on doing.
@CONEY you're one of my favorite streamers. I only usually get to catch you on youtube but I look forward to just about every video you put out. Keep it up my man
The smash theory is so good, Coney should actually learn the rest of it.
Pokemon Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are also based on Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee sooo...
Coney reacting to watch mojo is its own UA-cam category
i want coney to watch a splatoon lore video
The punch out bit is one of the best in a while
That little mac bit had me in tears
Coney saying electabuzz activated my Alexa
Coney, the reason Infinite Warfare was so hated when revealed is because it was the fourth sci-fi CoD in a row. It wasn't doing anything unique by being a sci-fi game, and the trend was started by Ghosts, the most hated CoD game at the time, and Advanced warfare was lackluster. The exo-suit style movement and hero abilities just wasn't jiving with CoD fans, and was getting old. They also made you buy Infinite Warfare to get the remaster of CoD 4 that released alongside it.
its a shame cus dmc devil may cry was gameplay and theming wise hella high tier
shame every char is horrid and the story is actually all over the place ALTHOUGH DMC DANTE IS FUNNY AS HELL
I remember as a kid I was being careful making sure my family didn't see the blood on master hand in the tabuu cutscene
Herb Stempel is such a funny name! Almost as funny as Zak Zeeks! You guys both have nickelodeon-ass names but in different ways!
this title and thumbnail tricked me, well done coney editors
"Is this an out of season April Fool's joke?"
What a champion, too bad it wasn't shown here.
15:14 the irony of Coney saying this
Whoever in the comments said that Pokémon fans want to play the same Pokémon game over and over
Not even true
The franchise has always been innovating and changing things up so I wouldn’t say predictable
Predictability isn’t the samething as tradition
They have always experimented with new concepts and mechanics
Like breeding,natures,abilities, following pokemon, overworld encounters, physical special split, mega evolution,Zmoves, gigantamax/dynamax amie/refresh/camping, even motion controls from let’s go do these features not count as evolving/progressing are these things not ambitious?
The restructuring of the traditional Pokémon format by having the third legendary as the main focus not to mention being the first Pokémon games ever to do DLC and the regional evolutions
Also the various QoL stuff even having dynamax and gigantamax and you would not have SV without the wild area all of these new ideas and things for the franchise
Are these not ambitious
I mean all these things have changed the franchise in substantial ways
Every generation offers something ambitious is replacing gyms with trials not ambitious? Or making the galar league a tournament like the anime instead of a traditional elite four is that not ambitious
Sure none of them have ever been this super drastic
But to say it’s “finally evolving” is a bit disingenuous
Has the steps in previous games been a bit smaller I mean sure
But baby steps and even medium steps is still progression
Why do we count this and not those
Shouldn’t it all count?
Some of these things maybe temporary but they are still creative and ambitious and drastically change the course of the franchise so they count
Every game has always been different
You deserve a like after all this time
DMC is good? Ok, this contrarian bit of his has officially gone too far. Either that or dementia came early
I think there's a theory that pokemon evolved from people or people from pokemon so it wouldn't be that disturbing... it is still kinda weird tho
Pretty sure its People from Pokémon tbh, though they could maybe be actual humans that just had earth invaded by them considering the settings are all real world places. First 4 gens are japan, 5 is NY, 6 is france, 7 is Hawaii, 8 is the UK but upside down, and 9 is spain. Even many of the spin-off games are in real places
I love the take at the end that the reason Diablo Immortal was successful is their asses did have phones and it's my head cannon now that the "do you guys not have phones" line was a resounding success, reminding Diablo gamers that they do in fact have phones.
Sorry to join in on the Zelda discourse, but Wind Waker and A Link Between Worlds are childhood favorites, so I’ve got to rep them just a bit.
For me the relationship between Ocarina and Wind Waker has always been a bit like the one between Mario 1 and Mario 3: the first one is a groundbreaking, genre-defining success, and it’ll always be iconic, but the later one, with the benefit of practice, ends up being a touch more polished, with some nicer level design and a nice new coat of paint. The story’s a lot different, and again maybe not as iconic, but I think it’s really neat and worth a shot. (also, there’s literally not even that much sailing involved, I really don’t get why people even mention it: it would be like complaining that Hyrule Field is too big in Ocarina)
As for A Link Between Worlds, even without being much of a fan of some of the other 2D Zeldas I think this one’s fantastic. The item rental mechanic really does a lot to shake things up in the early game, the consumables get streamlined really nicely, there’s lots of things to do in the overworld, and some of the unique mechanics lead to some of the best dungeon and puzzle design in the series. I know it can be easy to pass it over for being a 3DS game (even though honestly I also think a lot of 3DS games go hard) but honestly it’s pretty great. And regarding the problem of feeling lost, I had the same thing happen to me with Link’s Awakening as a kid but ALBW always felt really intuitive to me in how it was laid out, personally I don’t forsee that being an issue.
Anyway, sorry if this was cringe, maybe I’m just biased but these are my childhood games so those are just my opinions.
Matpat’s Smash theory duology is utter dogshit and has been a net negative for discourse surrounding the series. It’s given people false ideas about Sakurai’s workflow and has made people convinced that Nintendo keeps him locked in their basement and forces him to make Smash games. People eat it up because barely anyone pays attention to Smash lore outside of women who wrote Brawl fanfiction in middle school
I would never have thought that Spain's Pasapalabra would appear in Coney Stream like ever lmaoo
that pokemon one really blew my mind yikes
I think you should do the Splatoon singleplayer campaigns, Coney.
If you don't like the gameplay much, I get not wanting to play online, but the singleplayer campaigns are where you can find a lot of, if not most of, the lore and stuff which you think are cool.
And, y'know, you're not dealing with random sweats online lmao
edit: I think the problem with the DmC reboot game is the fact that it was trying to act like it was part of the Devil May Cry series everyone knew and loved already, taking Dante and Vergil and everything and putting a twist on them.
If it did that with the gameplay, but had its own original characters and story, instead of hiding under the name of another series - establishing itself as its own thing.. i think that would've done a lot better for it, y'know?
YOU THOUGHT THE VAPORION COPYPASTA WAS MADE BY SOME RANDOM FREAK!? BUT NO!! IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ANCIENT SCIENTIFIC PAPER!! AHAHAHA
The cod community was mad about infinite warfare because it was a futuristic setting. Guess what two games came out before infinite warfare…. Bo3(futuristic) and Advanced warfare(futuristic) this game was gonna be the 3rd in a row with a futuristic setting. So while on the outside you might think cod was getting shit on just because they were trying something new that is not in fact what was happening. Also people were tiered of getting the futuristic double/triple jump Jetpacks in these futuristic games
Idk if watch mojo are the kings of the genre but theyre at least in the top ten
coney, you always come in just in time for lunch delivering such wonderful content.
I thank you mr. cone man
Some of the stuff coney likes DmC for are somewhat covered in MGR revengance. It might be goofy, but is still "government bad" and is fun and more loved
If the Splatoon series ever gets its Monster Hunter World, ie. a PC/home console release I will be *_SPLATTING_*
If he plays wind waker, he has to play the HD version because it's so much better, especially with the fast sail.
Splatoon lore goes wild
Caring about story in a devil may cry game is very weird. And to make it the other games fault is also weird champ
Holy god I thought you were going to watch Game Theory for a second
Loving the content. Keep it up, Coney.
"body pillow of a lo-"
I know what he was about to say.
Do you?
4:05 Eggman didn’t build that though.
3:29 The example they chose for this, is literally made by Dr. Eggman
Thats just the plot of the game
He literally made this
Coney as a person that watches all your vids. I am demanding you make a second channel for the stream stuff that just barely doesn’t make a UA-cam vid. I need more content coney. And I know you’ve got stuff cause you will mention stuff your gonna do on stream in vids. I’m not asking for your normal effort involved edited videos but come on man. Monkey want more!!!
Edit: Or do more salty bet and we’ll call it even 😉
on his page there's a channel linked called coney vods that has all the extra unedited content you could want
@@jedibongrip Oooooh thanks. Well. His fault for not telling me that but I appreciate it
@@lowstandards3148 np, I listen to that channel when I'm goin to sleep sometimes lmao
Song at 18:32?
We all just rats searching for the cheese 🙏
I thought infinite warfare looked awful when it came out, having played it in the last year I think it has some of the most creative level design in any cod game. Plus the Zombies has the Hoff
Coney just tell us you haven't played unleashed or visited any other country before
I juat realized that Coney laughs like Lego Batman
As soon as I read this he just fucking laughs like that lmao
I don't know if Coney skipped over it or if WatchMojo didn't include it but in the list of "Top 10 video game reveals that caused backlash", Paper Mario Color Splash should of been up there. I remember when that game was revealed in a Nintendo Direct and as soon as they showed the world map and the card system, everyone and their mom went ballistic over it and how they said they didn't want a Sticker Star 2.
I didn't catch the full stream, but was Federation Force on the backlash list?
Mister Coney,
My favorites part was when you cracked wise about videogames
Wind Waker HD has better sailing to make it faster but it is a 10/10 game and most people I know who played it love it
The most embarrassing thing you can hold in public is UA-camr merch #yiayPublic
I'm pretty sure I've seen every single coney watchmojo react...
The average Coney video is literally just rolling a roulette wheel. Who knows what the video is about, because the thumbnail and the title are both a form of Anti clickbait
Coney wanting basic action game with action man. Like DmC Donte may cry. Gameplay is great, story, characters and message is hella dated. Plus dev decided new design should look like him. Let's also not forget the way they shat on the old series with interviews and promotions
Pokémon has never been pure
The Pokepeople theory actually did what the title said it would for Coney lol
(Me too tbh)
Bro I remember playing Wind waker as a kid that game was cool.
4:40 Hell yeah! The squids and octopuses hated Mario so much that they got a horrible "deadly water" genetic mutation after they brutally ended Mario's existence. Now, every time you play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or Smash Bros Ultimate, remember that Mario is a zombie.
EE is an example of Money = Cheating
I'm totally down for Coney playing Wind Waker!!
Sonic world and eggman was sonic friend before he was turned evil by chaos energy
Wait a sec, didn't Coney already react to the Smash 'growing up' theory from GT on [REDACTED]?
It's a shame nobody mentioned that the last human gave up his life for the bag cat the show the results (I thought nk it was jud?)