Last week’s Controversies: Fans can't recognize Jennie? Jinni being canceled? Wonyoung&Gaeul hated?
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- After only one week, the Kpop world has been flooded with loads of head-aching controversies. The departure of Jinni from NMIXX is already heart-breaking and now, there’s a rumor she’s being boycotted by the whole Kpop industry? Blackpink’s Jennie is making fans disappointed as they think she’s not behaving like a Kpop idol anymore? Starship Entertainment got bashed for going too far with pushing Wonyoung to the point that IVE doesn’t look like a group anymore?
All of these hot debates will be covered in today’s video. Is your curiosity triggered yet? Keep watching till the end to see what happened in the Kpop world the previous week.
Last week’s Controversies: Fans can't recognize Jennie? Jinni being canceled? Wonyoung&Gaeul hated?
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Seems like the opinions on Jennie's controversy are 50:50. Which 50 are you on? 👀
Jennie can do whatever she wants, she is a grown woman but that is not her private free time, that’s her job and a lot of people that went to to concert are minors. I think she should be a little bit careful in the public but in her private time she can do whatever she wants.
Oh please it is not 50:50. 99% of her fans are, yk, ✨normal✨ and understand that this is her body as a grown woman who is competing capable of wearing and acting however she wants. She doesn't belong to us and we have zero say in what she's wearing, neither does it matter anyway. Those couple of weird fans don't represent us
@@carina6935 this concert is late at night in paris, not sk. You'll act completely different if it was a random western artist, but because you look at kpop idols like babies the response is different? She's not their parent. Those minor's parents are the ones that should be setting the boundaries for their children, not her
@@bornpink3069 Girl what? I react the same way to western artists. Also the western artists that act like this have this image, so everyone knows that they’re going to do this, but Jennie doesn’t so it’s unexpected and a little bit shocking for some people ( not me btw, I know she is a grown woman and can do whatever she wants). I understand that some people are shocked, I don’t understand the hate tho. And just because the concert is late at night, it won’t prevent minors from going, a friend of mine went to their concert on Germany, and it was also late at night. The minors will get in together with their parents so there were definitely minors. However, I didn’t said that she isn’t allowed to dress like this, I just said that it’s not her private time but a concert full of minors. I just said that she might be a little but careful but at the end of the day I don’t care what she does. I just think that we should look at this from a objective way, and that means to consider that she is an idol and idols are expected by the Korean public to have an innocent personality so I understand Korean fans when they’re uncomfortable. Doesn’t change the fact that she is a grown woman and can wear whatever she wants, but I understand them. I wasn’t hating on her btw, I agree that she should wear whatever she wants. You guys should stop getting so sensitive every time.
@@carina6935 who is getting sensitive honey you're not that important💀 and like u said, you're not shocked, cuz u understand she's a grown women. So do the parents and minors going to this concert should. And trust, because of it's last hour, u won't be seeing anyone under 12 there. Which is grown enough to see this things, it's not like bp are a group with cute concept either so I don't understand any of this shocked ppl, and it doesn't matter that they're from sk because they're not performing there anyway
I hate that groups are forced to act like the missing member never existed. it’s cruel!
They could get sued for using the name of someone who's not part of something anymore for reasons we don't know because Jinni left for personal reasons.
@@c.lineofficial wth it's really sad 😭
Jennie is closer to 30s than to teenage years, what I'm trying to say is that she is a grown woman and is nice that she is acting her age instead of acting cutesy cringy childlike as other idols her age
She's having fun... ? They can't have fun while on stage? it's kind of weird... it would be different if she were in a bar, with a bunch of men around her, dancing on a table or something? lol... but she's not? I think it's weird that people want to box her in and limit what she is doing, she's not a robot. And I agree with you, she's not pretending to be all innocent, she's a woman!
Yes, but it was a concert...
they wear cloths . Have you ever seen bts shirtless grinding on girls or something . Bts promote and respect their culture . Jennie behave like western and west don’t have any culture , morals and values . Korean don’t want to degrade their country with westernisation
@@jayjoseph-r5t Jenni is more western than anything, Korea has wrong values too like racial discrimination and overwork, also I don't care about the West having values or not since I am not a westerner
But she was actually acting cute and childlike at the same time too while or after twerking 💀
Jennie can wear what she wants because she is freaking adult and it's her choice if she is comfortable than its her move we are no one to tell her anything
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SPEAK UP
Hope there are no underage audiences went to the concert..
@IEatFatClit CVM PETS 💀
As an idol jennie has responsabilities To respect the korean culture and tradition dont try to enforce your western ideologie on them . Why they are criticized because kpop was created specifically for asian with asian social norms so when you try to be a american wannabe dosent work. Logic
Jennie just being her self because she 26 and does not need to be have like a 5 years old shes a grown woman
I don’t get people, if Jennie is. Enjoying herself they criticised her but if Jennie is not on the mood and dont have the energy in concerts they also criticise her😅😅😅 i think no matter what they jennie do people or haters will find ways to criticise her.. but at the end of the day Jennie decides what she wants and what she do besides shes already 26yo… i just don’t get kpop fans/haters in exaggerating things…
@@bryskir06 facts
yeah but 5 year olds are allowed to attend blackpink concerts so she needs to hold back on that or put an age resriction
@@candyland9471 lol who crazy mom let their 5 yr old child go to concerts? Lol…. Thats an irresponsible mom. that mom should be educated not jennie…😅
@@bryskir06 i'm not lying blackpink noticed the little girl and called her cute she looked 4 or five years old her mom was holding her and the little girl was saying lisa''s name .
I’m so proud of Jennie for being unapologetically herself! She’s not afraid to maintain her cute innocent image that kpop idols are made to! She’s an independent grown women and can do whatever she likes!
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Being confident and being vulgar are two different things
@@glittery_heart3029 Call your favorite male idols vulgar when they do sexy dance moves or wear revealing clothing too, and then we'll agree. Otherwise just say you're sexist and move on.
@@farhanahmed1175 I didn't mention anyone tho.. Neither male nor female. Just said that confidence doesn't relates with being vulgar and showing openness in certain body parts.
And something inappropriate is inappropriate, regardless of it being dobe by a male or female.
(and here "inappropriate" doesn't directly refers to clothing etc. I am taking about in general, just Bcoz you mentioned the gender factor)
I think the agency should have debuted Wonyoung as a soloist if they wanted to doll her up so much and leave the others especially Liz to hide somewhere in the background
This!
Wow..I promise I commented the exact same thing and you just read my mind...I didn't see your comment I promise...Let me copy paste the one that I wrote to show you...
"I don't hate or dislike Wonyoung but if the company wants to keep the IVE group together for some more time they should stop highlighting Wonyoung this much even if she brings more money to their bag...What's more...If they really want it...Let wonyoung be a soloist.. See if she can do it all on her own...No right??(She can do all this cause she has a group to cover up for her)So just be careful...Other members are humans with feelings too and they have fans too..."
They always make Liz wear hideous outfits. It's like they're making sure Liz does not stand out .
i don’t think she can perform a whole song by herself.. like the live singing would be very hard for one person, and she like somi mostly shines in a group.
@@goldenhourss somi is doing absolutely amazing as a soloist ..
Jennie is 26 and I think because she’s been visiting America lately, she’s has been wanting to express herself in a more mature and adult way.
Anyway, I think it’s crazy that Jennie’s dance is considered inappropriate, when there are literal k-dramas, trying to establish relationships with minors and adults, like Backstreet rookie. Plus male idols dance in a more provocative way.
Like ppl just be picking and choosing when they want to say something is bad.
Here we are fighting that men should objectify us and she is there wearing short dresses
Korean people hate Jennie so don't worry bp is not for korea, for globaly.
@@smoothlikebutterhatersinth8367 Wearing something revealing is sexualizing, not objectifying. This does not justify men objectifying women.
I agree male idols could be humping the air in their dance yet they say nothing
@@smoothlikebutterhatersinth8367 me when i have internalised misogyny
Jennie was not performing in the kindergarten, but in Paris, European capital of glamour and provoke style. I think it was appropriate to give something extra to her fans there. You never satisfy k-nets, so just live your life, Jennie!
It is understandable that in a CONCERT where no one expected it, or there are many minors with their parents, that some people may be shocked. If it had been at a party, his story or something more private and expected that a concert no one would have something to say.
@@Ylang428 even baby's do twerk here in europe im living in barlin almost 2years .....jennie is doing is very normal here twirking is just normal dancing
@@Ylang428 Jennie is a grown women and these kids know that so do the parents….at the end of the day it’s on the parents for letting them go
@@Ylang428
Right, so, no one gonna said anything about boy groups who do some sexual dance like thrust moves, rip their clothes??!!
They don't have minor fans there?
Give me a break 😒
@@jogitsonkar3507 well that is very sad... then yell are going to scream why are children S*xualised🙄
Jennie is unapologetically savage and free, I just love seeing her enjoying herself.
Honestly, if people sees Jennie and a kid comes to mind, they need to check themselves, that's wrong.
She seems more like pre debut Jennie
1. I said this before I'm not a fan of Nmixx but I did notice Jinni and was able to recognise her very quickly...So I think it's a shame she left..But I respect Jinni and believe that she has a fair reason for this...And I hope the rest of the members will be able to move forward ...Fighting Nmixx and Jinni...
2. I don't have a strict opinion about Jenni..It's true there are much more young fans in kpop ..But all western artists do this right??So if her fans are okay with that netizens shouldn't bug her ..
3. I don't hate or dislike Wonyoung but if the company wants to keep the IVE group together for some more time they should stop highlighting Wonyoung this much even if she brings more money to their bag...What's more...If they really want it...Let wonyoung be a soloist.. See if she can do it all on her own...No right??So just be careful...Other members are humans with feelings too and they have fans too...
Actually I agree in everything with u but wonyoung can blow up solo too she was already the most wanted young artist for Modeling companies and they still want her and when she was the 13 and was the center the judge said " the center was well chosen " wonyoung made the judge smile with one blink . I personally noticed I've and izone because of wonyoung she is just attractive and talented
1. Honestly, I feel like something went down behind the scenes with Jinni. The only time I've seen erasure of an idol like this was for Ilhoon from BtoB for smoking weeeed. They literally blurred him from performance clips in Kingdom 2.
2. TOTALLY AGREE!
3. TOTALLY AGREE AGAIN!
what a stupid comment about wonyoung ! .... Starship let Wonyoung and Yujin join p48 / IZONE is to become popular idols to promote their future gg (IVE) because they are a SMALL company ! why you think Hybe get Sakura and Chaewon immediately to their group Le sserafim ? are they too damn talented ??? again what a stupid comment !
First of all, Ive girls get more solo activities than most 4th gg’s. Maybe If you stop focusing on Wony so much, you’d be able to see that.
The wonyoung favouritism is honestly very exploitative. Yes she’s very gorgeous, but she’s popular BECAUSE she’s in a group. She can’t dance and sing well enough to be a soloist, unlike Hyuna and Nayeon etc. Her popularity is built on the existence of other IVE members to carry the choreos and vocals for her. I don’t believe that she could sing After Like by herself.
The other members help wonyoung get so much popularity and opportunities, and what does the company give them in return? Plain unflattering outfits like those given to Rei and Liz?
I don’t hate Wonyoung for it but this situation is very unfair. I don’t see Lisa or Karina getting this much favouritism despite being the most popular Blackpink/Aespa member by far.
I think wony should've debuted as a soloist after disbandment of izone because neither wony nor ive would've recieved such hate and wony could do whatever she want without getting criticized like being an mc or wearing better clothes.
It won't be happened if Starshit didn't create Wonyoung (and Yujin actually) got the most spotlight scenario in any moments IVE could had. I mean, imo it's okay to utilize it but not in exaggerating level and that's what Starshit exactly done. Worst, it seems like Starshit direct them (especially Wony) to act in a way that can cause controversy so they keep gaining fame and all the hate recieved is directly towards the idol automatically instead of the company when they're the one that need to be blamed
@@farewell-done2412 yeah that's totally true
Karina said something like the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy.
That's why Ive is thriving because the hate only gives them attention. Neither Ive nor Solo Wonyoung would be THIS successful if it wasn't for Starships promotion
Well I'm not sure if if minors can become soloists in a field like kpop, nor would they want to with how sketchy it can be sometimes. She would've been able to work in a group if Starship waited longer, but at the end of the day they "need" Wonyoung and Yujin's fame.
I disagree, wony debuted as a soloist can make it even worse, people actually never hate IVE, they just hate wonyoung. They said that wonyoung is giving them bad vibes based on her "behavior" and decided to hate on her. Genius, right?
Not even Hyolyn the face of the group and main vocal in Starship's girl group, Sistar got favouritism on the level of Wonyoung and Hyolyn was/ is one of the most talented idols in the whole of Kpop including in dance.
The thing was Hyolyn was heavily criticized because of her visuals, people called her visual hole in the group, even when she had a lot of fans because how charming and talented she was.
Wonyoung is breathtakingly beautiful but she's clearly not a singer and her dancing is lackluster, she probably can still make as a solist in a kpop scene where everyone lipsing but it's a risk for starship, so they made it IVE.
What I don't get is why they didn't try to capitalize on Yujin's large fanbase, I feel like she had a lot of support during Izone days and now is slowly losing it because starship treats her as the rest of the girls. It's frankly bizarre.
Plus when all know how shitty that company can be and it's not news how harsh with weight management they were with WJSN, I'm happy they didn't try to force Liz into a harsh diet, but I also don't understand why they would just care so little about the 3rd most liked member of the group. She's the only one beside the ex-izone girls that the public easily recognized and liked at first, and starship seems intended in burying her.
@@joiceraiana agreed. i feel like starship is burying liz or smth.
@@joiceraiana Yet her visuals were still good enough to model for Banila Co and Amipure and more.
@@joiceraiana you are so braindead with having that narrative. Ive girls get more solo activities than most 4th gen gg’s.
It is literally not favoritism. If you had watched the video, you would know that Wonyoung was just the mc/announcer of that particular event (hence the different outfit). She probably didn’t have time to change out of her dress and redo her styling before moving to the group shot (as with most “controversies” where she’s wearing a different outfit than the rest of the members). 😅 It is really not that deep. Plus, the netizens criticized Wonyoung’s dress and IVE’s styling overall, saying that ALL of them look like grannies, so it’s not like the public looked at only Wonyoung favorably. I really hate these types of videos with misleading titles, because most people don’t watch until the end and therefore never understand the full context… and I’m sorry to say, but when Sistar was active, I remember people did criticize Hyolyn for being given the most lines. Some fans even said Sistar was all about Hyolyn (despite Soyou and Bora getting a lot of screen time too), so it’s clear to me that people like to nitpick on the popular members and blame it on “favoritism”
As much as I stanned IVE upon debut… the fandom’s a mess and their relationship as a group just isn’t there unlike Le Sserafim and NMIXX. I hope the girls do stop getting involved in all sorts of controversies especially ones about Wonyoung. It gets a little overboard at times.
Jinni leave the group without reason..
Wonyoung did nothing problem the People trying make her as bad since they re insecure and jobless
fandom's a mess ? how about you check their achievements ? haha dont try to hide HATER
@@Dino-pk5hc Read into that how you like but I’ve been a fan of these girls since IZ*ONE and I can tell you for a fact that WIZONEs are better than how you’re acting right now. Which is why I’m saying I hope Wony stops getting the hate that she’s been getting when she joined IVE.
ive has been getting so much hate since debut so fans are a lot more protective and easily triggered so i dont blame them. Also, theres a lot of solo stan for some reason.
True fans will always know about jinni because they have watch their every mvs
I missed her lot
they literally have just 4 mvs
@@parveshparihar9108 same, I’m not really a huge NMIXX fan or even have Jinni as my bias but it was so unexpected and I’m going to miss seeing her in NMIXX, JYPE has a lot of explaining to do, especially with how awful the company is treating her and her departure. She really belonged in the group and amongst her clearly loved members
@@LiD0349 i m gonna miss "nmixx " line by her because vocal when music is changing... Hope she joins again
@@LiD0349 JYP has already said in the past that whatever the reason for a member to withdraw from the group they won't disclose it even if their artists breached a contract or has done something that's against their policy, because he still wants that artist to be successful somewhere. Do you really think it would help if they disclose whatever reason Jinni left? What if it's way worse than people assume? It would ruin her for the rest of her life. A rumor (even though it's awful) made by netz are better than confirming a dirty secret, because at least a rumor dies down.
Starship will keep dressing Wonyoung that way because it always gets a reaction of y’all, and thus, brings more attention to the group
How ridiculous for some "fans" to complain about a 26 year old acting like a 26 year old.
Stop make age as an excuse, c
What she does is provocative considering most of BP fans are minor
Jennie in Tally be like;
"Sometimes, I like to go play dirty
Just like all of the fuck boys do
That's my choice and there's no one I'm hurting
When that's not girly
Everybody tells me to play nice"
She knows what she's doing. I'm not even a huge a fan of hers but she's cool.
exactly,this line talks about the fact that a woman can’t do anything without being judged or consider a slut,but a man can do it because he’s “just having fun”
what?
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its like its written just for this 👏
@@annoyingmultifandomname2217 you have eyes right? Read the comment properly
Us Paris fans totally enjoyed jennie's little "twerk" the rest of the world were not invited so you shouldn't have a word to say 🤷♀️
@@candyland9471 first of all don't bring kids at concerts full of adults and loud noises
@@Kumiyoonisis that's why blackpink need to have age resrictions how were the audience suppose to know jennie might undress and start shacking her butt .
@@candyland9471 this is Paris not some conservative countries. No one was shocked, the whole arena screamed. Once again do not bring your child in a concert its too noisy for their little ear-drums
@@Kumiyoonisis i don't have children just have common sense blackpink should not promote their concert as friendly for all ages if their going to start undressing and shacking their butts they need to have age restriction
@@candyland9471 "blackpink should not" and that's where you should stop cuz you are NO ONE literally a nobody in this world to tell them what they should do or not do. Close your eyes, move on and don't attend their concerts. Simple
Jennie and any other kpop idol can do and act in anyway that express themselves they're human too they are allowed to have fun and do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting or stepping down on anyone.
I mean if you were at the Paris D-1 concert, you would've seen what the reaction of real fans was, people were literally freaking out (ofc in a good meaning) and everyone had so so much fun, as well as the girls! It's always people on the internet who afterwards literally always have to nit-pick.
Yeah, it's especially non-fans who have to complain. The concert was for BP and blinks, why are others upset its stupid
they just jealous cause they couldnt go to the concert
IA. It's always non-fans who complain, when the performance wasn't even for them. #1, she wasn't even in SK, she was in Paris. #2, she's grown. #3, her fans loved it.
Istg, if hwasa did the same thing jennie did ya'll be calling her a "queen", "symbol of body positivity", "feminism at its peak" but if jennie does it, "she's a sl*t", "she's ruining the (non-existent) underage fandom". Ya'll kpoopies are the living statues of hypocrisy💀
Edit: Speaking of hypocrites, here they are. Ya'll were having fun shredding boy groups but as soon as someone mentioned hwasa, everyone lost their minds. Just say you guys token stan mamamoo and hwasa just to hate on other female idols...
These haters are straight up disgusting at this point I saw some one comment on a reel of lisa tweaking and that hater had the nerve to say that "the concert is a strip club at this point" and anyone supporting these haters are just disgusting as them
Damn right
Excuse me, don't get me wrong i love Jennie but why are u specifically naming hwasa, and quoting words it's just coming of rude.
@@godisawoman7010 how is it coming off as rude? They literally just used her as an example which many other people did ☠️
@@godisawoman7010 it's true though
3:18 revealed her entire back? I’ve never heard anyone say anything about men who take off their shirt with nothing underneath it
What scares me about Jennie is not about her wardrobe or how she twerks but the feeling of being "carefree" like whatever happens, happens... like if they reprimand her she's like ... whatever cuz it's not like they'd be doing this for more years hence the subject of disbandment. Knowing that can also boost confidence, and do crazy things that other people would frown cuz there are not many chances left, get what I mean?? that what scares me.
Exactly. This tour and comeback I've been feeling the same way from Jennie and the girls overall. They're like "finally we're gonna be free from this so let's just do whatever tf we want". Notice how they downgraded with performances and now this behavior of Jennie too. A couple of years back when she got a lot of hate, she looked like she did care but now she looks like nah whatever.
@@riizemixx the only moment she becomes a decent performer is when it comes to her solo on stage :/ its sad, they just don't care anymore
This..
The amount of bs in this cs..well cant do anything abt that anymore
If one fool says something which is something true when they think so when it's not, all other fools will also agree with it without even minding to see the reality
wonyoung and
BP are always there
Being famous comes with controversy bro
True
Jennie is not acting like a kpop idol … she is just acting like an idol ICONIC
Jennie can do whatever she wants, she is a grown woman but that is not her private free time, that’s her job and a lot of people that went to to concert are minors. I think she should be a little bit careful in the public but in her private time she can do whatever she wants.
i highly doubt minors have enough money to buy bp’s concert tickets, and since it’s their kid, that’s their parents’ problem, not jennie’s
@@hnyuq4049 You know that most minors have parents?
@@hnyuq4049 true the parents should start parenting
if minors are there that's the fault of the parents esp if theyre under 16 and can't even go alone in the 1st place she can do what she wants she's in western countries for gods sake
@@thatonerazormain8223 Girl what? Western countries also have minors and conservative people that will feel either uncomfortable or hate on her. Western countries allow more, but you that’s not a ticket to do everything you want. We also have rules and culture here. That being said, if the parents allow their child to go their, they should make sure that its age appropriate, but I’m pretty sure that they didn’t know that this is gonna happen.
It’s nice to see Jennie so confident and embracing herself
Why would it matter if Jennie “doesn’t fit the sexy narrative “ like Hyuna or Hwasa, (love them btw) if she’s confident and feels like dancing and twerking what’s so wrong with that? If it seems awkward or weird so be it. It’s not your job to tell a woman whether she’s sexy or not, especially when she’s feeling good. Plus I’ve definitely seen hyuna wear clothes just as or even more provocative than what jennie was wearing when performing in Korea! And yes hyuna has received a fair share of hate bc of that. Y’all just can’t wait to shame another woman.
Additionally, people keep bringing up the point that BP fans are mainly young girls. You’re telling me that they’ve never seen a woman twerk before? Like they’ve definitely seen worser things on the internet. Jennie twerking will not hinder their “innocence” or whatever tf y’all want to claim.
I’m not even going to start with the double standards. What era are we in? the Middle Ages? 💀 People need to realize that we’ve (at least Americans) have come from a place where the word “pregnancy” was censored to one where shows like South Park can be aired. No matter how much you hate it, the world is getting more and more uncensored.
So don’t hate and shame a woman’s choice and sexuality.I’m sure you have better things to do. Absolutely nothing will change, just the amount of haters yapping.
ik I just wrote a whole essay abt this so i probably should have better things to do too ,but personally as a feminist I can’t stand for shit like this
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go off queen! u r so right
PREACH
When lesserafim roasts each other y’all call it ‘besties’ but when I’ve does it’s ‘coworkers’ 😭😭😭
I’m not really a huge NMIXX fan or even have Jinni as my bias but it was so unexpected and I’m going to miss seeing her in NMIXX, JYPE has a lot of explaining to do, especially with how awful the company is treating her and her departure. Surely she couldn’t have done something at extreme 😢
JYPE going through such lengths to erase Jinni’s career reminds me of the way the remaining Try Guys (American UA-camrs/company) are erasing a previous member out of every single thing. The She really belonged in the group and amongst her clearly loved members.
Wtf Jennie is 26 year old WOMAN and She can do and wear anything, Stop with this double standards!
The same knetizens that criticizing jennie are the ones supporting and sexualizing some minor kpop idols like newjeans members so stop the hypocrisy
newjeans are not sexualized. try again
@@thenameisnanalogy ok if not new jeans then many more young idols, like Yuna and Ni-Ki
Jennie can do whatever she wants 😅😅 she is a grown up
Jennie is literally almost 30 years old and y’all are treating her like she’s a fucking baby, nobody complains about bts dancing shirtless when there’s minors in the crowd? Why not keep the same energy for blackpink
Starship is definitely pushing WY, is impossible to deny it, making other members look like backup dancers, but I it's not her fault and she's getting too much hate
Jennie is a performer and entertainer...... she's working!!
Twerking*
bahaha working right
If they want to push wonyoung so badly why didn’t they just debute her as a soloist
1. I’m pretty sure JYP has done this same thing with Woojin after his contract got terminated and he left Stray Kids. They were quick to delete his appearance as well and I might think it’s because they want to prevent some kind of lawsuits in the process or something like that, I’m not sure though but I don’t think Jinni’s case is the first one…? Correct me if I’m wrong though
2. Jennie is an adult woman, I see no issues with how she acts or dresses and it’s also not the first time she’s been under knetz created drama for her outfits, acts or even an mv shot that they had to remove. There are other kpop female idols who act or dress similarly and never get bashed for it because “it’s their style” but when it comes to Jennie the world splits open which is annoying asf. Besides a point I’ve noticed over the years, ALL kpop groups as soon as they perform outside of Korea or generally Asia, they to wild and have proper fun doing whatever they want. It’s nothing new and nothing to create scandals over. But since it’s Jennie we all know why it’s a topic to begin with.
3. Lastly, I can’t seem to find a way on how to stan IVE in any shape way or form and I won’t lie I dont even know. Wonyoung's style this time is not an issue as she didnt have time to change to mc right after the red carpet and im pretty sure they were one of the last groups to step on the red carpet also. but its a known fact that IVE's stylists are just straight up ignorant or lazy imo, they havent been trying to even style them in an interesting way or in a way that would suit their images or body types. but apart from that, the entire interview portion seems just untasteful and quite weird. they never seemed that close in my eyes but there are occasional moments where im like "i know they're young but age doesn't excuse you from not having any manners" and like as a group, where everyone agreed to skip the question, why would you still answer it by yourself by throwing your teammate under the bus. a joke is funny only when its made at a right time in the right way, not when you want to make a joke and then expect everyone to find it funny.
#1 - That's a good point. I wasn't paying attention to SKZ at the time the Woojin controversy happened.
#2 - 100%
#3 - I love Ive's music, but I honestly only stan Yujin. Their styling is terrible (everything honestly seems to be built around whatever WooYoung is wearing, and the other members get leftovers as an after-thought), but WooYoung totally had a reason to wear what she did this time.
#4 - Gaeul just seems like she can't read a room. The question on its own isn't bad. Plenty of other groups have answered it. What made it bad was that Gaeul didn't realize that no one in the group wanted it to be answered, and Gaeul also didn't realize WHY Liz was wearing what she does.
I agree with #2
Y'all saying jennie could wear anything she like yaa thats right she is grown up but she should also understand that it's a concert and not a night club!! Many young blinks have gone there with their parents! Imagine going with parents as concerts and getting thiss!!!
I swear like leave Jennie and wonyoung alone kpop Stan do too much sometime Jennie is a grown woman she can we’re what she wants so you don’t get to say what she wears people all ways have a problem with wonyoung can’t y’all just leaves her alone for once
@@LalaLala-bj1kv it was not Korea and western children know these kind of things from their very young age. So it's totally normal to them.
Jennie its ok but won young i actually cant defend her anymore even tho I'm her fan
Im proud of you Jennie
Not these people telling how an adult woman how to dress 💀💀
Tbh I didn't like jennie's outfit or her twerking behaviour. It was just uncomfortable. But she is an adult it's her choice to wear what she wants.
I'm telling the same..Like I don't like ot personally..But I don't care either...It's your personal chouce to like or dislike..But saying mean things is unnecessary
I mean starship could dress all of them in white .Stop lying to yourself wonyoung was the mc but the company was also aware of the red carpet .Ive is wonyoung and friends because of starship
Rei wear white but all the world trying overreacting cause this is wonyoung
@@lavienrosewon8811 what's the point of give her a white dress if her outfit was the worst imo
They did that exact thing in the Y2K concert and guess who still got hate and complaints?
@@amyam3710u can say the same thing about wonyoung’s outfit but y’all are so obsessed with wonyoung that y’all will only criticize her. ur such a hypocrite
Jennie is not just a kpopidol she's a global icon😌🔥
wow a comedian
@@jungchaeyeon4166 you are a comedian not her
@@fatickmondal1055 stfu fisheater.. race
Sure an icon for those who want to become like her
wtf "fans: cant recognize jennie ? nah those aint fans and SHES A WHOLE ASS WOMEN SHE CAN DO WTV SHE WANTS TO DO
Jennie is 26 not 2
I know I hate how some kpop fans act as if their older than 20 something idols are in kindergarten ....
The problem with Ive is that if starship wants them to continue as a group they have to stop treating wonyoung as if she is the only one carrying the group.. I Agree that wonyoung brings the most money but there are other members too they have feelings to, you can't just treat them as backup dancer.. Also starship treating wonyoung more specially feeds for the haters to hate wonyoung and wonyoung might get affected with celebrity disease. The other members might feel left out and end their contract.. If starship wants to highlight wonyoung so much they should rather debut her as a soloist and let ive continue with 5 members
Anyways wonyoung appears more as soloist rather than the center of a kpop group she has more solo projects compared to any other members...
Not only that, i also think because starship favor wonyoung too much, we can see wonyoung have problem manner too. Plus, i also boring with wonyoung doing the same aegyo and face which is nothing. Plus, she need to thanks to mnet that bringing her name on top now. As we all know, sakura le sserafim are true winner for Produce 101 Season 3. If not that, wonyoung will same boat as yujin now. Starship need to treat ive a good manner as artist. I worried they cannot stay long. Thanks to the good song they have, it make ive lovable
There's a fine line between being sexy and being vulgar
This.
There is line between fan and idol
And Jennie was not being vulgar. Objectively so.
Bro I seriously don't get the problem with Jennie doing what she did. She's an adult who has the freedom to do what she wants and if homegirl wants to twerk on a stage let her. You're seriously going to criticize her for that meanwhile male kpop idols perform shirtless all the time and it's fanservice to fans but it's wrong when she does it? Also I get that Korea is conservative and all but she wasn't in Korea and it wasn't Korean fans going to see her there so again what is the problem here??? If a mature bad girl image is what she's going for she has all the right to do so. She doesn't owe anyone anything than performance 😂😂😂😂.
My 14 years old friend went to Blackpink's concert and she met a girl who was even younger than her. They weren't there in France, but It still bad. They are literally kids and their parents paid a lot just to show their kid something, they could have seen in a stripper bar. And maybe if they would've go to a stripper bar, it would be even cheaper. This is embarassing.
lmao you guys need to grow up. if a grown woman shaking ass traumatized you, you’re not prepared for the real world😭 i wonder if you would say the same if it’s a male idol on stage
@@vesper-lu5wm bruhh I said It was one of my friend there!!! And she's only fourteen. She was there with her mom and her mom paid a lot, just because to travel there, also the hotel prize and then the concert too. And she paid like a fortune just to see how she's acting like a stripper IN FRONT OF NOT ONLY ONE CHILDREN!
@@barabasivivien9651 lol you need to grow up. women having fun and showing skin isn’t some traumatizing experience, and if you think it is, then i hope you’re ready for the real world.
@@vesper-lu5wm Yes, I am ready for the real world! But in your opinion, why is it about women acting like strippers on a concert? You think that real world is about this? Seriously! I just want Jennie, to at least try to cut down a bit. This isn't a stripper club!
@@vesper-lu5wm FR 😭😭
Can haters stop hating Jennie because of her clothes. She is 26 not a teenager k-pop Star who need elders guidance to what to wear.
i don't even like blackpink but i'm soooo annoyed with netizens who bash their outfit choices. for decades companies have been dressing idols way worse things by forcing them and no one has a problem with it but how come it's a problem when blackpink is comfortable in their own skins? these girls seem like they're okay dressing this way and what is the problem with this? people should mind their own business.
Jennie can wear what she wants. SHES GROWN.
Gaeul and me are so similar in terms of saying what's in our head.
I wonder what wrong about what she said though? Cuz black fits every situation 😂
What they want from Jennie to wear a cocomelon costume 😑
If you think about it Asia is very conservative about women's clothes even my family is like that so it's kinda understandable that they're angry
Jennie is so iconic . NEXT
This people dont have a problem when minors are debuting left and right, singing provocative and double meaning lyrics , drooling over male idol's bodies , but when a grown ass WOMAN decides to wear what she wants, decides to tweak ,then suddenly their moral pillars are collapsing 👍🏻🤷
What's the prob with minors debuting .stop dragging nwjns in this shit
@@cursedcroissant4117 what?
I never mentioned newjeans , there are a lot of minors debuting in this industry,doing sensual concept. but nobody says anything about it.
Its not only about a certain group or a certain idol its about the industry as a whole and the kpop fandoms and their hypocrisy 🤷
Jennie is pushing 30. Let her be yall are so weird
Jennie is a real confident woman who can pull of all kind of style. Don't you dare to come a talk shit about her clothes.
Jennie isn't just a k-pop idol.. these girls have proven time and time again that they are global icons... How she behaves and what she wears is her wish... Y'all can't set unreal expectations for the idols and actually expect them to follow it. Imagine fussing about what a 26 year old wears. And it's even more sad that the complaints is always from her own countrymen 😌
Jennie is a 26-year-old grown woman she can do whatever she wants date who she wants and wear what she wants why do netizens always have to hate everything she does besides she is just having fun it's not like she wants attention it's rare to see her smile and have fun like that so let her have her moment and plus why do netizens always have to act like they own kpop idols their people they can do what they want.
is they ever going to be a week where we don't find ive and blackpink in here like leave them alone it's starting to get annoying honestly
IVE is the #1 girl group of 4th gen and BLACKPINK is the #1 girl group overall and that's the reason kpoopies can't stop barking as simple as that. They wish their faves could be like them lol.
LoL so Lisa can twerk, pole dance, and do the “cry baby” dance in short shorts and thigh highs… but jennie gets such harsh criticism…okay.
No hate to Lisa but I think these people should stop being prudes
It’s the fact that they got nothing to shake and look weird
Ppl need to leave Jennie alone for real.. she is a gorgeous young woman who loves herself no different than any other female artist out there.. shit if I had her looks and confidence I would do the same thing lol she just having fun
1. Jinni's situation is low-key giving me SNSD Jessica vibes. Yes, the most probable reason for JYP removing Jinni's photos could be that thing of them not being allowed to use her imagery since she's no longer their worker (similarly to how HYBE edited Garam out of Le Sserafim's documentary) yet unlike with Jinni, Garam is still included in a lot of Le ssera's debut content & the fact that JYP even went as far as asking Mnet to remove Jinni from the Mama GG collab is so extra, one can't help but wonder if the reason for Jinni's departure was something severe... but also the spreading of really exaggerated rumours w/o even a hint of proof will just cause the same chaos that was created when Woojin left SKZ so I'm 50/50.
2. Back in the day, I used to think people were exaggerating this thing of double standards in every aspect of Kpop but the longer I've been a fan, the longer I see what people have been trying to say... Never once have I seen the same amount of backlash & vitrole when male idols (don't get me wrong, I still love them) who are naked from the waist up & are literally grinding/humping the stage... Fans almost never complain about them acting too provocatively & just call it fanservice. Yet as soon as an adult female idol who is perfectly comfortable with her body decides to also act mature or wear something mature, she is acting slutty & "nOt LIkE a kPoP iDOl" .. I've seen it with Joy, I've seen with it Momo, I've seen it with Yunjin & now I'm seeing it with Jennie...like... y'all are saying the industry is debuting babies & you want sexy concepts to come back yet when the legal idols give you those sexy concepts, it's also a problem?!😭
if they were removing her for legal reasons they would have to remove every idol that left their company as well as her parts edited out of the mv's. she was contracted and working for the company at the time, they have a right to use any content that she created underneath them. Garam was probably cut out because it was a bullying scandal
jennie slayed lmao
Nothing new just Jennie again being haters punching bag
Tbh, i have no issue WY being pretty and she fits in Korean standard being that pretty. Imo the real issue is she is being pushed a lot by her company that her schedule is packed, chasing all to maintain her popularity. She is human, not a robot. They also named her as one of IT Girls from 4th gen. Having said that, i just dont understand why she is being the center of everything. Besides being pretty, her other talents are just mediocre-be it singing, dancing, MCing, etc. So putting her in the spotlight (by choosing her more then her team members) is actually inviting more critism. Ppl would judge how good she dances, how good she sings, how good she is as the MC. Well, I guess Koreans really favor visuals, thats it. Thats how i see it. The end
why is it only an issue with wonyoung? most other groups also have the visual and center position and visuals like jin, jisoo, tzuyu, etc are often not that talented or are very mediocre talent wise, so why is only an issue worth complaining about when it’s about wonyoung? let the girl breathe
You act like you know wonyoung.
Wonyoung was songwriter at 15 yo and know played piano flute violon
@@lavienrosewon8811 what did she write? Are you pertaining about way back Izone. She stated it was her song but she's not alone who write it and work for it.
@@lavienrosewon8811 how many songs have she wrote? so she is on top because she knows how to play piano and flute? Thats common. Other idols have "other talents" too such as sang in opera before, have blackbelt in taekwando, did ice skating as an athelete before becoming an idol, produce their own songs, etc. We are now discussing main talent as an idol-singing and dancing. In both area she is mediocre. Her other team members are better than her in this two field.
IA, except I don't think her talents are mediocre. She average.
Oml just let Jennie live the way she dresses is none of y’all’s business geez let the poor girl breathe.
I’m not literally even a blink yet I can only say that the people who think Jennie’s style is inappropriate (I mean if she had chosen the style herself) and even go as far as comparing the style with a child’s, can either go clean up their minds or listen to nxde from (G)idle.
This IS our Jennie. She’s finally being herself for fuck sake. Let her be herself! Let her have fun! She’s a grown ass woman that wants to have some fun on tour. Are you guys forgetting that Jennie is almost 27 years old?
If you don’t want your children to see, then you shouldn’t show them it. It’s YOUR job as a parent to protect your children, not Jennie’s! Personally, I think she looked great.
Also, yes it’s a concert, but at the end of the day, we all know concerts can get a bit provocative sometimes. Just look at Cardi B, Jessi, HyunA and Lady Gaga.
If this was anyone else, you guys wouldn’t bat an eye, but just because it’s Jennie - aka K-Pop netizens’ human punching bag, ya’ll are making a huge deal about it?
And if the 2 ponytails with bows are making you uncomfortable, just wait until you get to know the Lolita concept.
To end my statement I’d like to point out that she was NOT disrespecting Korean culture and traditions just because she danced and dressed more provocatively than accepted in South Korea. She wasn’t acting like this in a country that was strictly religious or was not familiar with this kind of stuff.
She did this is Paris, France. A place filled with glamour and provocative style. If she was going to do this anywhere on the tour, this was just the right place.
SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR!💖
*YES* ! SAY IT LOUDER!
Care to elaborate on the Lolita concept?
@@vivaille_ Lolita is a concept based off of the novel by Vladimir Nabokov ‘Lolita’. In the novel we see a middle-aged literature teacher being obsessed with his 12-year-old student.
In Japan and sometimes even K-Pop, Lolita gets used to describe a certain style, very popular in eastern Asia. Lolita is usually grown women dressing up like children to attract attention (often sexualisation).
People who go for the Lolita look will most likely wear a school uniform of some sort, bright clothing (such as light pink or baby blue), they will sometimes carry child-like items such as teddy bears around. The dresses/skirts also often have childlike prints on them such as unicorns, puppies, kittens or teddy bears. To get more of a view on what they wear, search it up on Google.
Also, they will usually wear makeup that is very bright and makes their face look like a child (creepy IK).
The people that enjoy the Lolita concepts are usually pedophiles and the people that enjoy sexualising themselves while dressed up as little girls are just as worse.
@@rosesavocado8557 okay so I was thinking of the right term of Lolita; I wasn't aware of the first description with Vladimir tho, so ty for elaborating.
Just wrote a lengthy comment about this topic in the comment section (so not the reply thread); I personally feel a tad uncomfortable about it, but that's not Jennie's fault. Just sharing my thoughts.
Anyway, thanks again for the elaborate reply! Cheers!
I understand why BP Jennie behave like that ,like she's not grown up in Korea and the Culture is different in western Country and Asia so it's not new to idol who act like that.and maybe her parent approved that .it's on her if she wants to respect her body and if she wants to be nude then , it doesn't matter to us and we're not care that anymore thats her body not ours .
she grew up in New Zealand
@@parkpark6976 that the actual reason 💯
Jennie is literally an adult she can wear whatever she wants it’s her choice
The West is not like the East, in the East WE don't Care about the age, what she is doing is disrespectful in our society , she is ruining her image
I don’t actually like Jennie but y’all should let her be like y’all wish you were her so much
I really don’t care what jennie wears tbh but the main issue here was concert the whole was filled with lip syncing, voice cracking,and the quality of their vocals and dancing skills dropping no improvement since they debut or the 2yr hiatus ,and dance mistakes on stage and just bunch random twerks that’s it- bro that’s kinda embarrassing that even their juniors are giving better and world class concerts- why should people pay for the same 8-9 songs that are just being dragged around since forever and on top with such poor quality- their own solo performances looks like their covering a song-
Jennie is a grown woman she can do whatever she want she’s not a little kid 🙄 they/nitizens are just saying that bcs she’s Korean but if an American artist did that it wouldn’t be a problem.
Bro why tf is ppl creating so many rumours of jinni , imagine jinni seeing a video about her leaving and spreading ruthless rumours.
Why is ppl also saying she will debut with another gg???SHE WORKED FOR 6 YEARS AND LEAVING A GROUP FOR ANOTHER GROUP??NAHH BRO , i hate knetz
Jyp should've made it more clear and not only knetz say these things
What starship is doing to the other members is just cruel. I mean why do you introduce them as ive when a member always stands out, just introduce them as wonyoung and the other members of ive😕
@gra but it has happened more than once and on multiple occasions, I'm just voicing out my opinion
@gra that's your opinion we have different opinions 🤷♀️, I'm not a hater I just feel bad for the others
@gra When she stands out,the hate grows and the "bad blood" between the members grow
4:11 why would they take a video there anyway? Poor girl...
Wtf ... Netizen always bash jennie
hwasa showed her skin and was praised but jennie...
I don’t hate wonyoung, I hate their company, I have been under unjust treatment and it makes you feel like you’re not enough, I hope the other members know how valuable and talented they are
Wonyoung wear horrible gown tho the members get solo schedules im sure they re fine.
They know wonyoung is mc
staship need to stop doing this to ive.
Women can't have fun without being slutshamed, called out and the list continues but the fact that the ones who're shaming them are women themselves! you're the real pick me here not the person whom you're picking on just because that one woman out there is enjoying herself and showing off if it was a male idol y'all would stay silent and enjoy the view etc like making thirst trap edits which is very common so no surprise but when it comes to a female idol that mouth and hands of theirs starts barking the DOUBLE STANDARDS IS REAL
Girl shut
Ok let's not forget when Solar from mamamoo took off her shirt in a stage and Soyeon from G-Idle trewking whilw rapping... Stop hating on Jennie
Lmao doesn't knet have anything else other then hating female idols..... Jennie didn't wore bra and twerk in Korea...?she did in western countries where almost every people are open minded and support this and aren't innocent af
Plz everyone save vids that Jinni is in and reupload them. We can't let them erase her, thx 😰
Jen did nothing wrong 🤔
Chubby Liz is still beautiful ☺💗
8:27 "c0nDeMnAyShUn" is the word of the day 📖💪🧠
Tbh I don’t like how she was twirking since it was way too provocative and many minors who are fans probably went there
She was in France...so yea..
She is literally an adult 😟
@@byaku6298 Obv but for the sake of her younger fans there to celebrate, maybe lessen the sexiness a bit.
@@rinadhara2495 True but there must be a fan who was pretty young attending.
@@Iloveyouruikamishirostop blaming jennie, she’s not raising nobody’s kids. those parents shouldn’t be buying tickets if they don’t like what bp are doing at their concert. ur kid ur problem
Imagine a male idol removing his outerwear and then revealing a top almost like a bra and then twerking. People really think he won't be criticized by k netizens...
As a blink, I really dont like the new version of BP all the Twirking and revealing outfit. Yh i do understand they are adults now and we cant expect them to remain the same as kids. And I am in no position to judge them but I think they should take into consideration they have lots of fans who are kids and will be at the concert. No one is going to complain about Nicky Minaj, Cardi B, Megan because most parents wont even take their little kids to go see them. Some of us have seen great female rappers but we skip them for BP because we know BP is not over s*xualized.
Before you come at me I love BP but I have little kids here with me who also like BP and its kind of Awkward when that happens.
I understand...But it's a part of the job...Attracting fans using their bodies and being hot/sexy is normal in every entertainment industry right??For both male and female artists.
BP are more westernised than many other k pop groups...And many of Jennie's fans are aware about her this side too..(I mean she is an ambassador or someone for a famous undergarment brand too right??:)
@@star-00127 that’s right I feel like I have lost interest in them the reason I was interested in the K-pop industry because it was about the art, and the dancing aspect and the singing and the reason I left westernized media because they were over sexualized and their songs just talk about you know what I mean so I got disgusted and left and I’m glad that I did to be honest I like the old BLACKPINK they were artsy and a lot more fun, the visuals were amazing . now it’s just very westernized version of them and that’s why I lost interest in them
@@LalaLala-bj1kv she is not there parents
@@LalaLala-bj1kv lmao why do you expect her to care about those kids and don't enjoy her own fucking life?
Ummm these girls have adult lyrics in their videos and make innuendos all the time in their songs. Doesn't stop your kids from listening to them does it? So when the performance matches the vibe of the song it's a problem? Also it's not Jennie's job to take your kids into consideration it's yours. Her only job is to perform. If you want regulation that's on you. And just because you don't take your kids to see Nicki and Megan and Cardi B doesn't mean they won't listen to them. It's very hypocritical of you to try to police a grown woman who has no idea if your child was in attendance for her concert
my god leave jennie alone,im also 26,she and everyone can do what she want shes a grown women. and its no hate for who created the video not at all!❤️
its for all the haters who always have something bad to say
I saw that jennie moment in real life…
You're so lucky
What's your reaction?😂
The people criticising Jennie aren't fans in the first place so ofc they'd take issue with her expressing herself. Anybody who actually has been following her and the pinks activities this last 2years atleast would know that Jennie amd the others have been breaking free of their kpop idol image. Jennie particularly is seen actually enjoying herself at events now. She knows she's being filmed, she doesn't care. She loves to dance and drink and she likes to be sexy. She's a grown woman, it'd be weird if she still acted like a cutesy teen girl...
the pink bow pig tales giving me ice cream flashbacks 💀💀💀
@@candyland9471so you think you can stop her? She will do whatever she likes and don't care about your opinion
@@rinadhara2495 i said it was weird never said i could stop her take your meds your imagining things
@@candyland9471 then why are you spamming under every comments and if you hate her then why are you even watching her?
@@rinadhara2495 i never said i hated her either again you came up with that yourself go take your meds
Wonyoung is constantly being criticised, sometimes for justified reason but her fans are constantly defending her blindly. Y’all shouldn’t put idols on pedestals, they aren’t perfect. Y’all don’t get to pick and choose wether whatever they do is good or bad, just because you like the idol or not. I don’t think I worded this good but I hope you get what I mean. I’m not only talking about wonyoung but every idol who never get any justified criticism because fans are babying them too much.
what bad things have wonyoung done? eating food? how is that controversy worthy? oh and how is it her fault how she gets styled by starship? be serious. wonyoung stans are rightfully defending her because she gets so much unnecessary hate and if you look at the reasons they are ridiculous, like how is eating food the reason to hate on someone relentlessly?
@@kyooongie Of course she gets way to much hate but I wasn’t talking about her eating or her styling. But my general message wasn’t about Wonyoung, but about idols on general.
I feel like its more of the company fault than hers so I don't know why it always targeted at her like she made most of these desicion
@@nevaehopoku2651 Yes she definitely gets unnecessary hate, but K-pop stand shouldn’t always just blame the company when something bad happens. ( not in wonyoungs case, I mean in general) But in Wonyoungs case it’s obviously the company’s fault.
@@carina6935 her seniors praised wonyoung like stop watching evil debunked video about wonyoung
All the disrespectueful is bowing thing..didn't mean wonyoung is bad with her seniors
More she is overworked and maybe injury
When you can't perform well let's twerk. 🤣🤣
You are an armpit right??
@@star-00127 of course
@@star-00127 why do you have jinkook profile
Stop humiliating BTS and armies
@@Give_me_a_hammer I guessed...These people just want fan wars...I don't like them at all...
JYP can't keep jinnis photos on acount because of legally reason