0:27 even when I don’t agree with one of your opinions, you always do such a good job of justifying them that it sometimes makes me question or even change my own opinion, your reasoning always just makes so much sense
16:52 so what’s funny is, this actually happened. A player named honor, verified sakupen circles 66p and then when he attempted the spam and first wave, he gave up almost instantly
Your videos really remind me of Rivercivers GD videos, where he would just state his opinion of things, even if the majority of the community disagreed. I think that type of video is super rare nowadays. Keep up the work, I respect it! ❤
As a forsaken neon victor, I can say that the level is a massive nothing-burger with disproportionately hard choke points. I hate it. Bloodbath in all its hellish difficulty is better, and I actually enjoy it. Haven't gotten past 63 yet though
honestly, influence should absolutely be a big factor in rankings like this, especially for cookiecutter extremes. (which you did factor in for, which was nice to see) but imagine playing IWannaBeTheGuy and being sad that it isnt themed around like the actual game.
no thats based actually. the actual iwbtg is a really neat game that takes a ton of skill and memorization, the perfect candidate for a platformer demon. meanwhile the level is just "yeah lets throw a bunch of hard jumps and call it a day." no silly retro game references, no funny nonsensical traps, nothing. this is one of the few cases where i think being completely and utterly unpredictable would be great for the level
@@TsukiStuffsthis entire gameplay style isnt a reference to i wanna be the guy, but to the infinite amount of fangames that it has which use the exact gameplay style the gd level uses. All those fangames tend to use the "i wanna be the __" naming formula which is where that thing is from. Some of the parts in these levels which have you avoid moving obstacles with a ship/ufo are also an idea taken from those fangames. But yeah, the troll aspect of iwbtg would be cool to see in a level
"its a memory section disguised as a bossfight" are bossfights not inherently memory sections? unless its one of those that mix in wkth the normal gameplay every bossfight requires you to memorize it, thats how bossfights work. ive never liked bossfights which is why i havent beat sirius until like 1-2 years ago but once you memorize it its pretty simple
@@NothingIsScary I just personally don't like bossfights in general it just kinda feels like memory gameplay without the cool factor and they don't even make for fun gameplay
Easy Demon: Hazardous Sanctuary Before 2.2 it was a very buggy 2.0 level in addition to being unbalanced, now its just a subpar 2.0 level but still with terrible balancing (and probably still slightly buggy knowing how bad this level was for an easy demon to begin with) Medium Demon: Satin Honorable Mention: Labnity Just my go-to example of a glow level with absolutely zero playtesting and made for the sole purpose of getting rated based off its decoration. Its riddled with bugs and inconsistencies and has one click thats straight up RNG with like a 1/10 pass rate if not worse. It mercifully has a secret way that skips the last 20% but that doesn't help much when everything before it just sucks Hard demon: Elemental Melons Honorable mentions: Artemisia, Popcorn, Ginseng This level is the only hard demon to take me over 1 day to beat, the block decoration in this level literally kills you unless you do precise movements and its ALL OVER THE PLACE, PLUS it had a genuinely broken dual section which made me have to RESTART MY FUCKING PC in order to render it possible on my PC. Insane Demon: Wander of Thought Honorable mention: Extreme chaos, Planet Circles, love baba My least favorite level I've ever completed. The base gameplay is fucking awful and held together by silly string, there are over half a dozen bugs in the level reducing it to RNG and I needed to pray to Lord almighty every attempt that I would pass all of them. It has blind timings including one at the last cube which just adds onto the stress youll feel playing this shit, it has the most awkward transitions and duals known to mankind, and even balancing issues, its just a miserable shitfest left right and center. Extreme Demon: Sakupen Hell As much as I like this level for its intimidating aura I still have to admit that its absolutely grueling to play and is a level I consider to be my hardest even if Ive beaten two levels harder than it according to popular opinion. The awkward gameplay and atrocious balancing this level is infamous for speaks for itself
I mean at least the decoration for the boss fight in Sirius was cool for its time. You didn't see many boss fights in 2.0 that weren't just moving deadlocked monsters
Is Megalovania by Airswipe a hated level? It's one of my favourites and I often use it as a warmup for harder levels. And just to preface it, i HATE memory levels. But this one flows so wonderfully. The attack pattern is so simple, it's hard to forget. its literally up and down alternating.
I don't think Cherry Blossom is that bad decoration-wise but I agree with the thing you said about "why would they put that random restriction" and "if cherry team made an easy demon for everybody to enjoy, that would be cool."
The extreme demon picks are pretty based, I’d pick something like Sonic Wave Rebirth as most hated hard extreme because it’s just a redeco of another level. The point you brought up for Sakupen Circles is why I also hate the verified version of Silent Clubstep
nerfed silent clubstep came out before any serious verfication attempt though. whats more, it was done by the original creator himself, with the help of a few other ppl, and most if not all changes were done to bring the level closer to what was originally intended (namely fixing it on 60fps)
I was picking medium demons to beat (after I beat my first one, kiln) and I looked at -Sirius- and thought, "wow, this looks fun" and then got to the bossfight and immediately exited the practice run and started playing B instead.
I think recently CherryTeam has been good at making non-extremes like Crash Game and Neur Absence (both easy insane demons that have very high enjoyments), but I do have to agree Cherry Blossom is awful. If you would like a hard demon I can almost guarantee you’ll hate, "Flow" is literally Ship but longer and a tier 14 :) Nice video btw
The easy demon one doesn't look that bad, it's looks decent enough imo Also I kinda agree with Sirius, I did a practice run of it recently for the first time and some of the boss attacks are annoying
While I don't agree with basically anything here, I still think it's a good video. Thanks for sharing your views even though you knew people were gonna disagree, takes some courage man! ❤
About Sirius: I had conflicting feelings about -Sirius-, I like it but at the same time my brain just didn't want to work during the boss fight, especially the robot. Like you said about raw memory, yeah, someone like Merg had a HUGE advantage of that. About Sakupen Hell: Didn't Noobas delete the level himself to bury the dark past rather than RobTop? (At least that's what SEA said.)
I can honestly see why someone wouldn't like IWBTG, but I personally like it. It has very straightforward, no gimmick nonsense difficulty. I would honestly rather have every top 1 based off of it than something like chromaside.
I either understand or totally agree with most of these, but The Moon Below is such a cool and unique level. It’s one of the levels I always think of when I think of “cool as fuck” levels. The atmosphere is excellent, the anticipation of the dash orb release is crazy (not to mention funny as hell), etc. My favorite extreme demon is Congregation, and I love The Moon Below for similar reasons (gameplay, atmosphere, decoration, song). But yeah, all my homies hate shitkupen hell and shitkupen circles.
Imo, the "good" bossfights are in platformer mode. Stuff like "tombstone Project" (insane demon) and "boss rush" (not yet released) are so cool and fun. They're also pretty predictable!
I got some picks of my own for extremes, so here they are. Easy Extremes | The Ultimate Phase Old unbalanced level with a hard dual ship part and a spam that feels like luck. First 40% is free, spam is stupid, dual ship has dual ship physics, Loogiah's part is impossible, and MaJacko's part has a random inverted slope. Hard Extremes | Sonic Wave Rebirth Sonic Wave but the gameplay is somehow worse and it's harder to see. Also somehow epic rated. List Worthy Extremes | Silent clubstep No explaination necessary if you have eyes that work.
my only issue with sakupen hell is that 6% double blue orb and maybe the wave transitions could be more smooth. As for a hard one, you definitely haven't seen ML80 and naranja azul rosa or whatever those abominations are called
Damn I gotta respect the courage to put out the Sirius Bossfight equivalent of Opinion quality out here man. It takes bravery for sure. I already knew we were in for a stinker after getting the two clarifications that the opinions are gonna be bad and, yeah bro definitely delivered on that hard. Overall theres not much to say about the video. Sirius Bossfight has valid criticisms, Cherry doesn't at all. But its all good. IWBTG complaints weren't valid or logical for the most part, which I get since this entire vid isnt made with logic but emotionality and irrationality in mind. And Forsaken Neon and Sakupen Hell were understandable tbh. Sakupen Circles criticism was fine. And other than the video being low quality ragebait there wasn't really much else to say. Typical. Nothing crazy or special, which wasn't tbe original intention anyways. Overall good work. 👍
i feel sorta compelled to comment since from what i've seen it seems to be an extremely rare opinion to dislike sirius but i've also never liked it ever since it came out, and even put off beating it for a while, during which i think some people were calling it not only the best level ever created but also one of the easiest demons in the game, if i remember correctly. which i just couldn't understand for the reasons you brought up; the boss has essentially no telegraphing so you just have to memorize where to be and when for the whole boss. i feel justified hearing someone else also complain about it lol. now contrast how i feel about that to how i feel about the moon below, which currently sits at the top of my list for my most favorite extreme demons that i've beaten. i don't think it's really fair to rank it the lowest purely because of the long dash orb, mostly i just found it funny, but also think it adds to its uniqueness since literally no other level would even think of doing something like that (probably for good reason), but i think it works in this case, considering tmb's quiet and subdued atmosphere which is already highly uncommon in gd levels. the level itself in my experience is extremely fun, although a lot of that probably comes down to how lucky you get with the second half of the ship. i only died there once, though the verifier and one of my friends who has also beaten it didn't get as lucky as i did and ended up probably having a much worse experience.
to be fair, diamond verified old sc with pause buffering, but silent clubstep was put on the list anyways so theres a chance it can get verified without pause buffering
Honestly I don't think IWBTG had that bad of an influence. I quite like needle gameplay platformers and I honestly think that difficult levels would've adopted the style of gameplay regardless. It's the easiest high difficulty gameplay to make and it looks broadly appealing to watch. As for the level itself, I beat it and I didn't mind it for the most part. The balancing wasn't great, but it's very far from my most hated insane demon.
One thing I will say in defence of Sakupen Hell The hitboxes really aren't that bad Sure, there's a few random bushes that stick out but you can easily learn where to go upper or lower within the corridors and the resultant gaps are still a lot more lenient than 15-18 I've experienced a lot more pain on other maps
i remember years ago when i was a new gd player and the only famous level i knew was prolly like bloodbath or retray but anyways yeah i heard about -Sirius- and i found a level of its bossfight that i copied and added warnings too because i hated it so much (and i also hate the stupid hyphens) also W cube icon
100% agreed with forsaken neon, i tried it as a new hardest, the worst part are the transitions, in fact i died right at the beginning of the last ball, and the cube at 50 is verh very inconsistent
i didn't agree more with any videos like that than this, holy especially with IWBTG and sakupen circles, i really hope that someone verifies unnerfed sc and updates the rated version to unnerfed state. that would be the biggest hype in gd since the verification of bloodlust, the original impossible level is placed in list as verified. and the same with silent clubstep.
Man, I thought I was alone in hating -sirius-, I got 50% on it 2 years ago and never bothered to finish it as levels like Marathon and Killbot do memory far better and I actually have a decent time playing those.
I think that IWBTG is loved by almost all the comunity only because it was the first platformer extreme demon, having its own gameplay in Nexus's channel
I like CherryTeam levels and seeing Exen show off KOCMOC is what got me into the game so I have a soft spot for them. I do agree they should put the same love they put into KOCMOC and Psytokinesis into a medium demon so I can go for it as my first medium lol
easy and medium demon take was respectable idk about hard and extreme demon but iwbtg is perfectly fine especially considering it was made on like the first 2 days of release
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IWBTG!!!!! I swear I've completed most of the platformer levels, even done the platformer demons ranging from easy demon to insane demon. But there's some certain levels that I just don't want to play because the gameplay is just artificial difficulty and it just makes me frustrated because I know we can do so much better with platformer levels. Also IWBTG has NOTHING to do with IWBTG except they kept the horrible parts, but it makes sense because IWBTG game is not meant to be fun and constantly trolls you. With the IWBTG level, it doesn't have any of the troll factors, it's just horrible jumps. I would've loved to see some inspiration taken from IWBTG and put some idk game references, or add some interesting but random events happening in the level that's out of place like what IWBTG did with the arcade Mike Tyson while adding some references to the game itself, geometry dash. So much potential, but instead we got a trash level, with trash jumps, which influenced the levels in a negative way.
My favorite difficulty in the game is the hard demon. I have played and beaten some hard demons that became my all time favorites. Yesterday, while looking what hard demon to beat next, since i dont have that many beaten, i approached Darkness Keeper. The most miserable "hard" demon ive ever played.
No matter what opinion you have it will never be as bad as my least favourite Easy Demon being TOE2 because my experience beating it was absolutely miserable and made me hate the level and UFO gameplay in general.
Finally, someone talked about the fact that IWBTG has had a terrible influence on the platformer scene. I swear this is like the slaughterhouse tred again
Idc if its funny but The worst easy demon I ever played was trump circles, it sucks, has inconsistent gameplay and i played for 2 hours and every time i got to the drop I died immediatly to the transition.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly sure there is a CPS limit on the demon list, so USKC wouldn’t get rated anyways. Maybe the CPS thing is just challenge list though idk
Just gonna say, afaik Sakupen Hell is nerfed too, yet it was still rated as is, so yeah. The unnerfed was only just beaten last year if I remember correctly and funnily enough, it was also due to a spam. The reason why Sakupen Circles was verified in this state is because it was just unimaginable at the time to actually beat the unnerfed, even if people made progress on the infamous spam. If the Sakupen Circles remake was made today, it would probably keep the spam and buff some sections even more compared to the original, now that a verification of the unnerfed is far more realistic. Just my thought on it.
Your opinions are your opinions, if I don't agree with them, that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions even if people try to push you to disagree with your own opinions, and I respect you for sharing/expressing your opinions like this.
foresaken neon in my opinion is a good level the only part that made it annoying is the blindish jump and that entire cube part, everything else is fun af to me.
I absolutely agree with you about Sakupen Circles. For Silent Circles or Sakupen Circles V2, nerfing it makes sense because those levels are physically impossible. Sakupen Circles can be verified someday, and this level, even though it looks awesome, just feels like them milking the original to get a new top 1 instead of actually caring about the level and its history. Sad.
Reminds me of that one scene in Gravity Falls. "Well, time to round up the mob. *lights torch*" Glad you mentioned nothing about Tidal Wave. Even tho the debate is technically over, some people still are pissed about the rate.
My least favorite hard demon has to be Warblade (get ready for an essay). It's a newer platformer level that tries to capture old arcade shooters... and it is completely unfair. There are several waves of enemies, and you can access the shop every 4 waves. The level tells you that to win you need to beat wave 25, but since you can only win in the shop, you have to survive until wave 28. The waves are also unfair. The level has you stay at the bottom of the screen and shoot upwards, space invaders style. The problems come from the fact that enemies shoot back at random, but have zero indication of when they shoot, and there's nothing to protect you. The earlier waves are fine, but as soon as you reach wave 9, the enemies fly really close to the screen, and especially in later waves, they fly all across the bottom of the screen, right above you, so it is impossible to know where they'll shoot. Worst part is what the player has at their disposal. You start with three lives, a fairly slow shoot rate, and low ammo, but enemies can drop random upgrades ranging from shooting upgrades, ammo upgrades, an extra life, a shield, one of five letters that when all of them are collected, you get an extra life, a extra time, point multiplier (because arcade game), coins for the shop, a money multiplier, a coin shower (turns all enemies into coins), and meteorshower (minigame that earns you a lot of points and lets you skip the wave). However, there are two downgrades as well, being drunk mode which reverses your controls, and power down, which downgrades whatever shooting upgrade you have. All random. There is even a mystery collectable that gives you a random power-up, which includes the downgrades. The existence of those downgrades is aggravating because you can buy shooting upgrades in the shop, but those can be downgraded if you're unlucky. These shooting upgrades can be a single shot, dual shot, triple shot, and so on, but it's not as though collecting the power-up goes to the next version, no. Instead, each firing pattern is its own power-up, so you can go from triple to single shot! This means you have to avoid certain power-ups while trying to grab other power-ups while trying to not die from the completely random enemy attack patterns. Oh yeah, and about those letter upgrades, you can and will get the same letter multiple times, and until you get them all, repeated letters do nothing. It's infuriating. What makes this level even worse is that NOTHING is explained to you. All you get are some hints in the shop that you unlock by either already finding the mechanic or by spending a ton of money on them. They don't even teach the basic fundamental mechanics of the level! I had no idea what the power-ups did, why I wanted to collect points, how to earn money (because you can only earn money via random enemy drops), what the time meant (I still don't know), or how to last more than five seconds in later waves. There are bosses which are big versions of basic enemies, and when killed, a big energy ball quickly flies towards you. At first I thought it was an attack, but apparently they help you rank up. Now what do ranks mean and how do I rank up? I don't know, the level never tells me, and I don't last long enough because I'm not patient enough to sit through several minutes of rng hell only to die to something I actually could not see. There is a tip screen on the menu at the start of every attempt, but I didn't notice that and even then only got 2 useless tips to appear. I normally don't call levels bad, usually just "not my thing." But I can confidently say that I HATE Warblade, and in my opinion is not only the worst hard demon, but the worst rated level I have ever played. Also, this was initially an easy demon for some reason.
Getting my pitchforks ready rn
We need to exorcise the demon that made him do that
Pass one?
i'm staying right where i am rn
I lost my pitchfork, can somone lend me one??
@@masonroddy7447Here, I’ll give you one
At least “I wanna be the guy” gave me a way to say I beat a top 15.
It was top 7 when I beat it 💪
It was top something when I didn’t beat it👍
@@usedtissue7489 13 when I beat it
It was top idk when I didnt play it☝️
iwbtg sucks, it’s the thing that started the “mini robot & spike hitbox precision” trend and it’s been super generic.
0:27 even when I don’t agree with one of your opinions, you always do such a good job of justifying them that it sometimes makes me question or even change my own opinion, your reasoning always just makes so much sense
my thoughts word for word ^
like the opinion he had about hell levels in his controversial opinions vid genuinely had me reconsider my take
isnt that gaslighting?
@@viewing845ok
@@THTB_lol😭
@@THTB_lolYou're just too traumatized
if these are your most hated levels then you clearly haven't played enough levels
Omg hi insidius
lmfao true
thats what i was thinking !!!!!
That dash orb is so funny how’d that level get sent 😭
I cannot help but agree on your opinion on IWannaBeTheGuy. Good lord it has made a lot of unoriginal levels
now this is the type of nothingisscary videos that immediately intrigue me when i see them
Facts
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i got an advert midway through the dash orb and it still had like 10 seconds left 💀
same lmao😂
16:52 so what’s funny is, this actually happened. A player named honor, verified sakupen circles 66p and then when he attempted the spam and first wave, he gave up almost instantly
I actually like Cherry Blossom. But I respect you for your opinion because you’re being super fair 👍
Your videos really remind me of Rivercivers GD videos, where he would just state his opinion of things, even if the majority of the community disagreed. I think that type of video is super rare nowadays. Keep up the work, I respect it! ❤
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As a forsaken neon victor, I can say that the level is a massive nothing-burger with disproportionately hard choke points. I hate it. Bloodbath in all its hellish difficulty is better, and I actually enjoy it. Haven't gotten past 63 yet though
honestly, influence should absolutely be a big factor in rankings like this, especially for cookiecutter extremes. (which you did factor in for, which was nice to see)
but imagine playing IWannaBeTheGuy and being sad that it isnt themed around like the actual game.
no thats based actually. the actual iwbtg is a really neat game that takes a ton of skill and memorization, the perfect candidate for a platformer demon. meanwhile the level is just "yeah lets throw a bunch of hard jumps and call it a day." no silly retro game references, no funny nonsensical traps, nothing. this is one of the few cases where i think being completely and utterly unpredictable would be great for the level
@@TsukiStuffsthis entire gameplay style isnt a reference to i wanna be the guy, but to the infinite amount of fangames that it has which use the exact gameplay style the gd level uses. All those fangames tend to use the "i wanna be the __" naming formula which is where that thing is from. Some of the parts in these levels which have you avoid moving obstacles with a ship/ufo are also an idea taken from those fangames. But yeah, the troll aspect of iwbtg would be cool to see in a level
@@nubert2036 that level basically exists already at least from what you described, it’s a medium demon called I wanna be the GDash
@@qKitti ? I dont understand. What level?
@@nubert2036can you read?
"its a memory section disguised as a bossfight" are bossfights not inherently memory sections? unless its one of those that mix in wkth the normal gameplay every bossfight requires you to memorize it, thats how bossfights work. ive never liked bossfights which is why i havent beat sirius until like 1-2 years ago but once you memorize it its pretty simple
Nah memory boss fights are the norm and overly common. But that’s just because most of them work in a similar way and they are kinda bad.
@@NothingIsScary I just personally don't like bossfights in general it just kinda feels like memory gameplay without the cool factor and they don't even make for fun gameplay
@@squid2039try scuffed its a medium demon with a non-memory bossfight
also change of scene by bli is basically a bossfight level
Easy Demon:
Hazardous Sanctuary
Before 2.2 it was a very buggy 2.0 level in addition to being unbalanced, now its just a subpar 2.0 level but still with terrible balancing (and probably still slightly buggy knowing how bad this level was for an easy demon to begin with)
Medium Demon:
Satin
Honorable Mention: Labnity
Just my go-to example of a glow level with absolutely zero playtesting and made for the sole purpose of getting rated based off its decoration. Its riddled with bugs and inconsistencies and has one click thats straight up RNG with like a 1/10 pass rate if not worse. It mercifully has a secret way that skips the last 20% but that doesn't help much when everything before it just sucks
Hard demon:
Elemental Melons
Honorable mentions: Artemisia, Popcorn, Ginseng
This level is the only hard demon to take me over 1 day to beat, the block decoration in this level literally kills you unless you do precise movements and its ALL OVER THE PLACE, PLUS it had a genuinely broken dual section which made me have to RESTART MY FUCKING PC in order to render it possible on my PC.
Insane Demon:
Wander of Thought
Honorable mention: Extreme chaos, Planet Circles, love baba
My least favorite level I've ever completed. The base gameplay is fucking awful and held together by silly string, there are over half a dozen bugs in the level reducing it to RNG and I needed to pray to Lord almighty every attempt that I would pass all of them. It has blind timings including one at the last cube which just adds onto the stress youll feel playing this shit, it has the most awkward transitions and duals known to mankind, and even balancing issues, its just a miserable shitfest left right and center.
Extreme Demon:
Sakupen Hell
As much as I like this level for its intimidating aura I still have to admit that its absolutely grueling to play and is a level I consider to be my hardest even if Ive beaten two levels harder than it according to popular opinion. The awkward gameplay and atrocious balancing this level is infamous for speaks for itself
I mean at least the decoration for the boss fight in Sirius was cool for its time. You didn't see many boss fights in 2.0 that weren't just moving deadlocked monsters
personally i think the best 2.0 bossfight level is Spacelocked
granted that's also just my favorite demon in general
@@TsukiStuffs I totally agree. But both levels did a lot more than just deadlocked monsters
@@giggonszo5399 indeed. the only thing is that while Sirius looks stunning even to this day it just is not fun to play in the slightest
@@TsukiStuffs Eh it’s pretty bad
@@giggonszo5399 i dont really dislike sirius i just dont like actually playing it
Now I understand why people say your opinions are bad
you ignored two, TWO clarifications
True...
@@s.s8208 ?
I watched the whole video bruh
?? dont get me wrong but i agree with his opinions except sirius
@@MrMarcusGDdude the boss fight is shit 💀
4:06 cherry team did that already with binary life
The Moon Below is peak wtf, the super long dash orb is for the atmosphere.
It just probably shouldn't have been an extreme demon. It is good though.
Is Megalovania by Airswipe a hated level? It's one of my favourites and I often use it as a warmup for harder levels. And just to preface it, i HATE memory levels. But this one flows so wonderfully. The attack pattern is so simple, it's hard to forget. its literally up and down alternating.
Nah bro it's shit
I died literally 66 times past the last wave in forsaken neon and it was one of the most painful things I’ve had to go though in a video game
Your not alone bro, Sirius is my least favorite level too bro
It’s not just my least favourite, but I think it’s the most garbage level in the entire game and the developers made it with their feet
Hot take: I like Sakupen Hell. The 2nd/last wave especially feel really satisfying when you pull them off.
I agree sirius feels like a messy bossfight
I don't think Cherry Blossom is that bad decoration-wise but I agree with the thing you said about "why would they put that random restriction" and "if cherry team made an easy demon for everybody to enjoy, that would be cool."
I literally agree with every level you chosen
Yeah, until the community realizes that IWBTG had terrible gp, I’m not playing any platformer extremes.
The extreme demon picks are pretty based, I’d pick something like Sonic Wave Rebirth as most hated hard extreme because it’s just a redeco of another level. The point you brought up for Sakupen Circles is why I also hate the verified version of Silent Clubstep
nerfed silent clubstep came out before any serious verfication attempt though. whats more, it was done by the original creator himself, with the help of a few other ppl, and most if not all changes were done to bring the level closer to what was originally intended (namely fixing it on 60fps)
I was picking medium demons to beat (after I beat my first one, kiln) and I looked at -Sirius- and thought, "wow, this looks fun" and then got to the bossfight and immediately exited the practice run and started playing B instead.
YOU ARE SO BASED OH MY GOD ILY WITH ALL OF THESE I AM NOT EVEN JOKING
I think recently CherryTeam has been good at making non-extremes like Crash Game and Neur Absence (both easy insane demons that have very high enjoyments), but I do have to agree Cherry Blossom is awful.
If you would like a hard demon I can almost guarantee you’ll hate, "Flow" is literally Ship but longer and a tier 14 :)
Nice video btw
The easy demon one doesn't look that bad, it's looks decent enough imo
Also I kinda agree with Sirius, I did a practice run of it recently for the first time and some of the boss attacks are annoying
While I don't agree with basically anything here, I still think it's a good video. Thanks for sharing your views even though you knew people were gonna disagree, takes some courage man! ❤
About Sirius: I had conflicting feelings about -Sirius-, I like it but at the same time my brain just didn't want to work during the boss fight, especially the robot. Like you said about raw memory, yeah, someone like Merg had a HUGE advantage of that.
About Sakupen Hell: Didn't Noobas delete the level himself to bury the dark past rather than RobTop? (At least that's what SEA said.)
Sea was wrong
@@NothingIsScary And how exactly can you tell between deleted by RobTop and deleted by the creator?
I can honestly see why someone wouldn't like IWBTG, but I personally like it. It has very straightforward, no gimmick nonsense difficulty. I would honestly rather have every top 1 based off of it than something like chromaside.
I either understand or totally agree with most of these, but The Moon Below is such a cool and unique level. It’s one of the levels I always think of when I think of “cool as fuck” levels. The atmosphere is excellent, the anticipation of the dash orb release is crazy (not to mention funny as hell), etc. My favorite extreme demon is Congregation, and I love The Moon Below for similar reasons (gameplay, atmosphere, decoration, song).
But yeah, all my homies hate shitkupen hell and shitkupen circles.
I agree with the fact that the bossfight in Sirius is kind of trash gameplay but COME ON
Imo, the "good" bossfights are in platformer mode. Stuff like "tombstone Project" (insane demon) and "boss rush" (not yet released) are so cool and fun. They're also pretty predictable!
I hate Sirius too, mainly cause I can't search for it :3
bro has too much freetime
I got some picks of my own for extremes, so here they are.
Easy Extremes | The Ultimate Phase
Old unbalanced level with a hard dual ship part and a spam that feels like luck. First 40% is free, spam is stupid, dual ship has dual ship physics, Loogiah's part is impossible, and MaJacko's part has a random inverted slope.
Hard Extremes | Sonic Wave Rebirth
Sonic Wave but the gameplay is somehow worse and it's harder to see. Also somehow epic rated.
List Worthy Extremes | Silent clubstep
No explaination necessary if you have eyes that work.
Sonic wave rebirth I love more than any other sonic wave level honestly.
I agree with everything but sedulous, sedulous is fun (I like that type of gameplay) and the deco is great
Tbh I half expected you to put Tidal wave as the list demon you hate the most.
my only issue with sakupen hell is that 6% double blue orb and maybe the wave transitions could be more smooth. As for a hard one, you definitely haven't seen ML80 and naranja azul rosa or whatever those abominations are called
Damn I gotta respect the courage to put out the Sirius Bossfight equivalent of Opinion quality out here man. It takes bravery for sure. I already knew we were in for a stinker after getting the two clarifications that the opinions are gonna be bad and, yeah bro definitely delivered on that hard.
Overall theres not much to say about the video. Sirius Bossfight has valid criticisms, Cherry doesn't at all. But its all good.
IWBTG complaints weren't valid or logical for the most part, which I get since this entire vid isnt made with logic but emotionality and irrationality in mind. And Forsaken Neon and Sakupen Hell were understandable tbh.
Sakupen Circles criticism was fine. And other than the video being low quality ragebait there wasn't really much else to say. Typical. Nothing crazy or special, which wasn't tbe original intention anyways. Overall good work. 👍
i had garbage experiences with almost every level you mentioned ur so based
honestly besides the easy demon, fair enough lmao you got good points for those
i feel sorta compelled to comment since from what i've seen it seems to be an extremely rare opinion to dislike sirius but i've also never liked it ever since it came out, and even put off beating it for a while, during which i think some people were calling it not only the best level ever created but also one of the easiest demons in the game, if i remember correctly. which i just couldn't understand for the reasons you brought up; the boss has essentially no telegraphing so you just have to memorize where to be and when for the whole boss. i feel justified hearing someone else also complain about it lol.
now contrast how i feel about that to how i feel about the moon below, which currently sits at the top of my list for my most favorite extreme demons that i've beaten. i don't think it's really fair to rank it the lowest purely because of the long dash orb, mostly i just found it funny, but also think it adds to its uniqueness since literally no other level would even think of doing something like that (probably for good reason), but i think it works in this case, considering tmb's quiet and subdued atmosphere which is already highly uncommon in gd levels. the level itself in my experience is extremely fun, although a lot of that probably comes down to how lucky you get with the second half of the ship. i only died there once, though the verifier and one of my friends who has also beaten it didn't get as lucky as i did and ended up probably having a much worse experience.
to be fair, diamond verified old sc with pause buffering, but silent clubstep was put on the list anyways so theres a chance it can get verified without pause buffering
4:50 it was my first medium demon, i absolutely agree with your opinion
Honestly I don't think IWBTG had that bad of an influence. I quite like needle gameplay platformers and I honestly think that difficult levels would've adopted the style of gameplay regardless. It's the easiest high difficulty gameplay to make and it looks broadly appealing to watch.
As for the level itself, I beat it and I didn't mind it for the most part. The balancing wasn't great, but it's very far from my most hated insane demon.
One thing I will say in defence of Sakupen Hell
The hitboxes really aren't that bad
Sure, there's a few random bushes that stick out
but you can easily learn where to go upper or lower within the corridors
and the resultant gaps are still a lot more lenient than 15-18
I've experienced a lot more pain on other maps
i remember years ago when i was a new gd player and the only famous level i knew was prolly like bloodbath or retray but anyways yeah i heard about -Sirius- and i found a level of its bossfight that i copied and added warnings too because i hated it so much (and i also hate the stupid hyphens)
also W cube icon
You should try the opposite with your favorite demons of each level (You were probably already hinting at that at the end though)
you have to play it to understand the moon bellows dash orb imo
I agree 100% with this list ENTIRELY.
Nothingisscary dropping another controversial banger
when explaining extremes "bad hitboxes..." me: AVERNUS
I was going to go for Sirius at 1 point but that boss fight in practice made me go for B instead and so far B is an enjoyable level
100% agreed with forsaken neon, i tried it as a new hardest, the worst part are the transitions, in fact i died right at the beginning of the last ball, and the cube at 50 is verh very inconsistent
My least favorite demon is Nintando, I've always thought it was bad
lighting my torches and sharpening my pitchforks rn
Subbed before 10k
ive always hated the Sirius bossfight wave 💀
I completly do not disagree but I don't agree either since I haven't beaten any of these levels
i didn't agree more with any videos like that than this, holy
especially with IWBTG and sakupen circles, i really hope that someone verifies unnerfed sc and updates the rated version to unnerfed state. that would be the biggest hype in gd since the verification of bloodlust, the original impossible level is placed in list as verified. and the same with silent clubstep.
Man, I thought I was alone in hating -sirius-, I got 50% on it 2 years ago and never bothered to finish it as levels like Marathon and Killbot do memory far better and I actually have a decent time playing those.
I love Sakupen circles, I have played it a lot and have 16% but I could get to the drop if I tried, haven't played it in a while tho
bro grouped up down bass with limbo, eod, and ascension to heaven ☠️
good vid tho no hate
He grouped them with Down Bass Incarnate, a remake of Down Bass that looks awesome
nothingisscary being nitpicky like my math teacher:
-sirius- on this is crazy
bro you just choosed like all my favorite levels or smth
I think that IWBTG is loved by almost all the comunity only because it was the first platformer extreme demon, having its own gameplay in Nexus's channel
I like CherryTeam levels and seeing Exen show off KOCMOC is what got me into the game so I have a soft spot for them. I do agree they should put the same love they put into KOCMOC and Psytokinesis into a medium demon so I can go for it as my first medium lol
easy and medium demon take was respectable idk about hard and extreme demon but iwbtg is perfectly fine especially considering it was made on like the first 2 days of release
Imo it’s rushed and has bad gameplay.
Just my opinion I’ve ears others say they like it
Foresaken neon took my 3 weeks, stalemate took 3 days. It is a really unenjoyable level
I see how you can hate -Sirius- but the way you memorized the boss if that's you in this video makes it really hard lol
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IWBTG!!!!! I swear I've completed most of the platformer levels, even done the platformer demons ranging from easy demon to insane demon. But there's some certain levels that I just don't want to play because the gameplay is just artificial difficulty and it just makes me frustrated because I know we can do so much better with platformer levels. Also IWBTG has NOTHING to do with IWBTG except they kept the horrible parts, but it makes sense because IWBTG game is not meant to be fun and constantly trolls you. With the IWBTG level, it doesn't have any of the troll factors, it's just horrible jumps. I would've loved to see some inspiration taken from IWBTG and put some idk game references, or add some interesting but random events happening in the level that's out of place like what IWBTG did with the arcade Mike Tyson while adding some references to the game itself, geometry dash. So much potential, but instead we got a trash level, with trash jumps, which influenced the levels in a negative way.
i see you took my advice to heart
My favorite difficulty in the game is the hard demon. I have played and beaten some hard demons that became my all time favorites. Yesterday, while looking what hard demon to beat next, since i dont have that many beaten, i approached Darkness Keeper. The most miserable "hard" demon ive ever played.
I enjoyed darkness keeper but the gameplay is REALLY strange
No matter what opinion you have it will never be as bad as my least favourite Easy Demon being TOE2 because my experience beating it was absolutely miserable and made me hate the level and UFO gameplay in general.
TOE2 is an overrated main level that just feels like muscle memory Imo
I completely agree on sakupen circles. Now that diamond is verifying sakupen circles again its not gonna be rated.
Finally, someone talked about the fact that IWBTG has had a terrible influence on the platformer scene. I swear this is like the slaughterhouse tred again
Idc if its funny but The worst easy demon I ever played was trump circles, it sucks, has inconsistent gameplay and i played for 2 hours and every time i got to the drop I died immediatly to the transition.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly sure there is a CPS limit on the demon list, so USKC wouldn’t get rated anyways. Maybe the CPS thing is just challenge list though idk
The thing with sakupen circles isnt that the spam is too hard but the spam is not skill based
Just gonna say, afaik Sakupen Hell is nerfed too, yet it was still rated as is, so yeah. The unnerfed was only just beaten last year if I remember correctly and funnily enough, it was also due to a spam. The reason why Sakupen Circles was verified in this state is because it was just unimaginable at the time to actually beat the unnerfed, even if people made progress on the infamous spam. If the Sakupen Circles remake was made today, it would probably keep the spam and buff some sections even more compared to the original, now that a verification of the unnerfed is far more realistic. Just my thought on it.
Your opinions are your opinions, if I don't agree with them, that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinions even if people try to push you to disagree with your own opinions, and I respect you for sharing/expressing your opinions like this.
foresaken neon in my opinion is a good level the only part that made it annoying is the blindish jump and that entire cube part, everything else is fun af to me.
dash orb so long i had an ad 💀
question about the moon below, if that dash orb and timing was at the *very end* of the level, do you think that would make it okay?
I agree with you, Sirius fridging sucks it’s so donkey bro
I think Forsaken Neon's best part IS the last ball part, it's unique and really fun to play compared to the other parts.
I absolutely agree with you about Sakupen Circles. For Silent Circles or Sakupen Circles V2, nerfing it makes sense because those levels are physically impossible. Sakupen Circles can be verified someday, and this level, even though it looks awesome, just feels like them milking the original to get a new top 1 instead of actually caring about the level and its history. Sad.
I like grinding demons and stars, am I a star grinder, a demon slayer or a star slayer?
all 3 at the same time
yeah IKR Sirius is so overrated the memory is SO BAD
The next gd colon…
Reminds me of that one scene in Gravity Falls.
"Well, time to round up the mob. *lights torch*"
Glad you mentioned nothing about Tidal Wave. Even tho the debate is technically over, some people still are pissed about the rate.
Lemme get my pitchforks and torches
Edit: holy shit nevermind you have so many good points
If you had to choose an non-platformer insane demon what would it be?
My least favorite hard demon has to be Warblade (get ready for an essay). It's a newer platformer level that tries to capture old arcade shooters... and it is completely unfair. There are several waves of enemies, and you can access the shop every 4 waves. The level tells you that to win you need to beat wave 25, but since you can only win in the shop, you have to survive until wave 28. The waves are also unfair. The level has you stay at the bottom of the screen and shoot upwards, space invaders style. The problems come from the fact that enemies shoot back at random, but have zero indication of when they shoot, and there's nothing to protect you. The earlier waves are fine, but as soon as you reach wave 9, the enemies fly really close to the screen, and especially in later waves, they fly all across the bottom of the screen, right above you, so it is impossible to know where they'll shoot.
Worst part is what the player has at their disposal. You start with three lives, a fairly slow shoot rate, and low ammo, but enemies can drop random upgrades ranging from shooting upgrades, ammo upgrades, an extra life, a shield, one of five letters that when all of them are collected, you get an extra life, a extra time, point multiplier (because arcade game), coins for the shop, a money multiplier, a coin shower (turns all enemies into coins), and meteorshower (minigame that earns you a lot of points and lets you skip the wave). However, there are two downgrades as well, being drunk mode which reverses your controls, and power down, which downgrades whatever shooting upgrade you have. All random. There is even a mystery collectable that gives you a random power-up, which includes the downgrades. The existence of those downgrades is aggravating because you can buy shooting upgrades in the shop, but those can be downgraded if you're unlucky. These shooting upgrades can be a single shot, dual shot, triple shot, and so on, but it's not as though collecting the power-up goes to the next version, no. Instead, each firing pattern is its own power-up, so you can go from triple to single shot! This means you have to avoid certain power-ups while trying to grab other power-ups while trying to not die from the completely random enemy attack patterns. Oh yeah, and about those letter upgrades, you can and will get the same letter multiple times, and until you get them all, repeated letters do nothing. It's infuriating.
What makes this level even worse is that NOTHING is explained to you. All you get are some hints in the shop that you unlock by either already finding the mechanic or by spending a ton of money on them. They don't even teach the basic fundamental mechanics of the level! I had no idea what the power-ups did, why I wanted to collect points, how to earn money (because you can only earn money via random enemy drops), what the time meant (I still don't know), or how to last more than five seconds in later waves. There are bosses which are big versions of basic enemies, and when killed, a big energy ball quickly flies towards you. At first I thought it was an attack, but apparently they help you rank up. Now what do ranks mean and how do I rank up? I don't know, the level never tells me, and I don't last long enough because I'm not patient enough to sit through several minutes of rng hell only to die to something I actually could not see. There is a tip screen on the menu at the start of every attempt, but I didn't notice that and even then only got 2 useless tips to appear.
I normally don't call levels bad, usually just "not my thing." But I can confidently say that I HATE Warblade, and in my opinion is not only the worst hard demon, but the worst rated level I have ever played. Also, this was initially an easy demon for some reason.