Is Pokemon TCG Pocket Replacing Pokemon TCG Live?!

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  • @Lycan3303
    @Lycan3303 10 місяців тому +72

    As a long time enjoyer of PTCGO ....PTCGL physically hurts to play

    • @direbrain5566
      @direbrain5566 9 місяців тому +14

      It feels soulless everytime I play it it just reminds me it might never be what it was trying to replace

    • @JayyStillPlays
      @JayyStillPlays 7 місяців тому +2

      And its so damn restricted. Im not allowed to use my megas even though i only use them for looks​@direbrain5566

    • @yofedstyhrega4594
      @yofedstyhrega4594 2 місяці тому +2

      Losing my entire collection really hurts too got nothing in return for all that work and money

    • @alkimia1791
      @alkimia1791 2 місяці тому +5

      Dude I only just learned about PTCGL after trying to play PTCGO for the first time in like a year or two. I wanted to see my Heartgold deck and start playing again. I was so confused when I couldn't open the game, only to learn that the game is down, along with my deck... This sucks :(

    • @OutlawFarmersRC
      @OutlawFarmersRC 2 місяці тому +5

      I just started playing ptcgl and migrated my account from the old online game. I got a ton off Crystals for my effort and think the live game plays great. I’m on PC though

  • @NetWinder
    @NetWinder 10 місяців тому +37

    I can’t believe they keep putting Ls into these digital versions

    • @hongqipiao
      @hongqipiao 10 місяців тому +5

      explains the L in TCGL

    • @rathalos28able
      @rathalos28able 10 місяців тому

      @@hongqipiaobugs everywhere

    • @Yockuuu
      @Yockuuu 6 місяців тому

      am i cant login and cant play in ptcgo again?

    • @mlgcactus1035
      @mlgcactus1035 2 місяці тому

      Atleast it isn't game freak the ones developing it

  • @RednekGamurz
    @RednekGamurz 10 місяців тому +27

    It really sucks to see all these cool features that aren't coming to Live. Even if you want to argue that this is to get new players into the game, why can't they just add all these things to the existing game? Add a simplified battle mode to the online options, add in trading, retroactively make as many old cards as you can have the "immersive card" feature, and make sure some new cards have it when new sets are released, add in trading, give players free packs for logging in each day, and add in trading (if you couldn't tell it bugs me that a Pokemon TRADING card game app doesn't have trading in it).

    • @thicczagoon
      @thicczagoon 9 місяців тому +1

      Well tbf both live and pocket are developed by two different teams. Obviously the pocket team has the bigger budget. Still agree though. Live seems like an afterthought with the bare minimum effort put into it and not even good, striking design. Honestly kinda sad how Konami isn’t as big as TPC, but they made a much better game in master duel despite the fact that we haven’t had a great official client for the game since forever!

    • @mlgcactus1035
      @mlgcactus1035 2 місяці тому

      Cuz they can monetize pocket, without worrying about pissing of the rest of the tcg community.

  • @adtube666
    @adtube666 9 місяців тому +5

    Yep this is the correct take on this whole debacle. What does this do for actual players of the game? Given the huge uptick in tournament attendance you would think TPC would be pumping the dollars into supporting that community rather than a half-assed attempt to compete in an over crowded space.

  • @bakh554321
    @bakh554321 10 місяців тому +22

    Yeah this is a bit rough for both games isn't it?😅

  • @lordkieta
    @lordkieta 10 місяців тому +16

    damn you really said pokemon master sex

    • @rex7471094
      @rex7471094 9 місяців тому +1

      Immediately after I heard it, I checked the comments 😂

  • @RedpandaJourney
    @RedpandaJourney 10 місяців тому +7

    I don't get if they wanted to have microtransactions just add it to PTCGL and make it a better game but no they will make a separate game for just that. Nobody would have cried about microtransactions if they had added it in PTCGL initially.

    • @symphonixblades
      @symphonixblades 9 місяців тому +1

      different devs and different sides of the company. Live is from TPCi, Pocket is from DeNa (Pokemon Masters EX) and Creatures Inc. ( creators of the trading card game and part of TPC). TPC and TPCi are different divisions of the same company basically. The games featured in the Presents are all greenlight from TPC, Live was developed in house by TPCi

  • @fraudulein
    @fraudulein 7 місяців тому +3

    almost 3 months after this video was uploaded, I looked up pokemon tcg on the play store, not even knowing about this announcement, downloaded TCG Live, and as soon as it starts up it shows a message warning that there's still issues with starting matches.

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 9 місяців тому +5

    I hope it's easier to access too.
    Unlike TYPE IN YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION OR WHATEVER

  • @jakesaround
    @jakesaround 10 місяців тому +22

    I hate getting kicked in the Poké Balls 😮

  • @CJ-Wolf
    @CJ-Wolf 9 місяців тому +3

    From watching the video of it, pocket plays the way the "my first battle" decks play

  • @tranquil5892
    @tranquil5892 10 місяців тому +19

    Sad that PTCGL (or its actual replacement) isn't getting this kind of focus. I wish that they handled Pocket similar to Duel Links, change around the duel formatting sure. But take us back to the original sets and work our way to current. Tons of people would have thrown money at the nostalgia and we'd be able to play older formats that we haven't gotten in PTCGO or PTCGL. I guess we just have to pray for twinleaf.

    • @Scoitol
      @Scoitol 10 місяців тому +2

      The old cards are ugly for the average consumer

    • @tranquil5892
      @tranquil5892 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Scoitol Ever heard of XY Evolutions? SV 151? Base Set Charizard? The “average consumer” flocks to the nostalgic sets/cards. The “average consumer” doesn’t care about SV Paradox Rift or Temporal Forces like people on this channel might.

  • @soulripper31
    @soulripper31 Місяць тому +2

    So far 4.6/5 stars from over 685K reviews on the Google Play Store. Also already downloaded over 30 million times. Yeah, this will be their new top priority in the future.

  • @emberpowertcg7692
    @emberpowertcg7692 9 місяців тому +2

    I really hope we still get a casual format on Live and this isn't the excuse not to add one, getting real sick of playing against the same decks

  • @ulltramagnus85
    @ulltramagnus85 8 місяців тому +5

    I downloaded Live today, and I think its pretty good? I love that they have a crafting system.

    • @noiko4418
      @noiko4418 22 дні тому

      That took out alot of feature
      1. Fun NPC battle
      2. Theme deck
      3. Tourney that separated between standard, expand, theme (you win tradeable card)
      4. The trading system
      5. The older card you got throughout the years of playing
      6. Fairy type
      And they just give you a bunch of ex deck as starting hand, that is shitty at best. You just access to good card with shitty deck, most people will just use the same given deck and no creativity in it it just look so dead. We use to meet pokemon break (it a evolved beyond final stage of pokemon), mega evolved, conditioned card that make 4 cards into one OP pokemon. We use to have way more supporter, item, stadium and they took out fairy type which is so much fun back in the day

  • @DarkCT
    @DarkCT 10 місяців тому +5

    this just makes me laugh.
    the constant reminder that PTCGL is in it's own name, functionally an international only product couldn't be more clear. part of what makes master duel work as yugioh is my surviving card game of choice is the fact that Master duel is fully international and played everywhere including japan and is therefore supported fully, where as PTCGL is just not supported remotely the same by the companies around it's IP. the reason PTCGL is such a mess is that it just doesn't have the funding nor attention, and why would it even when it's been stamped as a fixture of the TCG side.
    That said Master duel also has polish, has significantly less issues despite the massive card pool, and im utterly biased towards it's version of the crafting system because while it's harder to get all the cards you may want, they designed it in a way that makes opening packs always more interesting to me personally. just a few hours ago i saw a player simultaneously resolve the exodia win condition and the relay soul alternate loss condition at the exact same time, and Master duel actually did both properly despite the fact both cards are 10+ years old in an eternal format card game and relay soul other than being an "anime card" would never likely be played beyond a meme. meanwhile with PTCGL i often lag into my first match of the day, and still can't forget the game influencing glitches like searching, or how long it took for them to fix Toedscruel EX despite it being the premium battle pass boss monster of it's deck at the time.
    I'm not bothering with Pocket, not in the slightest. sounds like it's not even planned for a desktop release, while master duel again can be played on that too. ehh, maybe this one will run better?

    • @symphonixblades
      @symphonixblades 9 місяців тому

      you're comparing different games dude. Master Duel version of Pocket TCG is Live not Pocket.
      Pocket is the Duel Links of Pokemon TCG.
      Duel Links is a mobile game that years later got a steam version which is basically just the mobile app on Steam, with no actual change on it, and with a screen made for mobile.
      Pocket is Duel Links shouldn't be compared with Master Duel

    • @DarkCT
      @DarkCT 9 місяців тому

      @@symphonixblades I was comparing PTCGL with master duel the bulk of my post, mostly to point out how much PTCGL is disconnected from the rest of the pokemon ecosystem, whereas Part of why Master duel gets the support it needs is because they made it a more central part of their system.
      About the only comparison to Pocket i made to MD was whether or not it'll get a PC application, which I honestly don't know if it will, but maybe it will pull a duel links and do just that. Iooking at it i already know it's functionally Duel Links for Pokemon.

  • @PhoenixMoore
    @PhoenixMoore 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm a person that spent a good amount of time, but not a LOT of time in TCGL, and.. I'm actually for this change. I've played the card game physically for a long time and have always felt that the card game needed to be updated. If anyone has played Lorcana, any card can be used as "energy" if you turn it over facedown, and I wish Pokemon would implement something like that so that you can stop having to spend 30-40 cards of your deck just in HOPES of drawing an energy card.
    Not to mention, TCGL runs like absolute crap on the mobile phone. Like, so so bad. It destroys my battery, and makes my phone hot. Takes forever to load into.. it needed this update, but yeah it sucks for the folks that spent a lot of time in Live.

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 9 місяців тому +4

    Ah yes
    The game without micro transactions being left to flounder
    Whilst the game that will have micro transactions being treated like it’s one of the big boy Pokemon brands

    • @Osjey
      @Osjey 9 місяців тому

      yes, money rules the world sadly

  • @clothieredward
    @clothieredward 10 місяців тому +10

    It's funny how PTCGL was never seen in a Pokemon Presents ever since the game launched but yet PTCGP is getting so much attention already.
    I personally have my doubts about PTCGP being better than PTCGL with the fact the game's simplified and the fact that the game likely will have microtransactions.
    At least the balancing of the cards should be better which is a plus I suppose.
    Either way though, I forsee PTCGP getting a lot more attention from PTCG developers than PTCGL especially since PTCGP will likely be actually profitable.
    And that makes me wonder something. Are you going to be making more videos on PTCGP when it comes out? I sure would find it interesting to see a couple of gameplay videos on PTCGP when it comes with how different the rules are from the usual PTCG experience.

    • @superfukon
      @superfukon 10 місяців тому +5

      Live is made by TPCi, thats why it never promoted by TPC. While pocket is made by TPC so it same level as go, unite, sleep, master ex who promoted a lot.

  • @shawn4387
    @shawn4387 2 місяці тому +2

    I think live is fun it just needs more features

  • @daviebroy9174
    @daviebroy9174 10 місяців тому +5

    Why are they doing this to us? Why not just completely re-work PTGCL or give us a real TCG client?????

    • @Blahblah-oo7lk
      @Blahblah-oo7lk 9 місяців тому +2

      Live is done by TPCI, so for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist to TPC and Creatures, Inc. Here there are a few promising points already. One Creatures is the creator of the PTCG and having a direct hand in the app over PTCGL which is done by TPCi (which is running it on a shoestring budget because no monetization. The biggest tone is that they partnered with a competent company known for making many mobile games, sure gacha, but competent mobile games. If you watch one of Trust's older videos TPCi didn't even hire developers who knew how to program TCGs until late 2021 or 2022 and likely a good amount of fixes in Live were because of hiring those devs to teach the devs TPCi likely hired for cheap. But because Live was operating so far from behind (remember Live started development back in 2018) , the improvements are minimal.

  • @Endersgamejp
    @Endersgamejp 9 місяців тому +2

    I've been playing TCG live for about 2 weeks now. I'm pretty addicted NGL. The simple fact that there's no micro transactions is just icing on the cake for me.
    Edit: I just wish there was a function for battling friends... I know there's a friend function but I haven't tested it yet....

  • @timmyphillipi4566
    @timmyphillipi4566 10 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, i am kind of interested in trying this, though i don't think it is meant to be a replacement to live. I feel like this will play quite different to the regular Pokemon TCG. I'm worried though like with Live, not all phones will be able to run this game. And i don't know if it will have online play, or if you have to directly be around someone to do a match with them. Like there are many questions i have with this game, that i hope will be answered leading up to release. I do think that there was no need to make another one when they are supposed to be putting their time and resources into Live.

    • @zacharyjackson7584
      @zacharyjackson7584 10 місяців тому +1

      I could not possibly fathom this not having online play. We are not in the Nintendo DS era with the DS rooms anymore.
      And what do you mean by "not all phones will be able to run this game"? My phone runs it perfectly fine other than the bugs like not being able to see the cards, the crashing, and such. 😅 Truly it is a terrible app in all honesty. I wish it was not that way.

    • @timmyphillipi4566
      @timmyphillipi4566 10 місяців тому

      @@zacharyjackson7584 i mean not all phones were compatible with tcg live

  • @Lordmadara.
    @Lordmadara. 10 місяців тому +3

    They need to update live man but it fumble badly

  • @Jsetotcg
    @Jsetotcg 10 місяців тому +3

    wake up babe, pokemon nfts just dropped

  • @hapahapahappy
    @hapahapahappy 9 місяців тому +2

    I was so excited when I saw this cause I thought it was replacing ptcg live.

  • @SpectreXS
    @SpectreXS 10 місяців тому +1

    This seems like a duel links style competitor indeed, but saying that it's "ironic" that this gets more attention and screen time than PTCGL would be an understatement.
    This further solidifies the theory that PTCGL is just a crapo placeholder for the online client so they can cut costs, compared to previously outsourcing it to direwolf.

    • @coolyeh1017
      @coolyeh1017 9 місяців тому

      TPC in Japan was never fond of an online simulator for whatever reason. PTCGO and PTCGL are both TPCi projects and Live isn't available in Japan and other TPC countries.
      So because TPC isn't helping, TPCi is left with scraps. There is also the mircotransactions issue, if Live had actual microtransactions or some other way to self-fund Live would probably be in a better state than it is now. However, because the microtransactions are via code cards from official product (money that goes to TPC Japan) or third party sellers (aka TPCi doesn't see any money), Live is operating on a shoestring budget or at a loss.
      TPCi projects are for some reason not allowed to have microfransactions and have a limited use license to use images, characters or music from the Pokemon IP due to some nebulous contractual clauses or speculated by an overly protective parent company.

  • @Azaytio
    @Azaytio 10 місяців тому

    Just give me expanded and retro formats and I would be happy, but I really want tournaments/events I can infinite grind on like magic arena does. Do that and make it stable and there would be sooo much less complaining.

  • @TurtleKingGMZ
    @TurtleKingGMZ 9 місяців тому

    Hey can you help me out here.I have an account but when ever I try logging in it says incorrect and all that stuff but when I go to change it it needs my date of birth and I don’t remember what I put so it’s not letting me log in.What should I do

    • @TrustYourPilotTCG
      @TrustYourPilotTCG  9 місяців тому

      Best bet is probably contacting support - support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=1900000462167

  • @kindredzpirit6046
    @kindredzpirit6046 9 місяців тому +1

    PTCGO was a trash client for 10 years almost unchanging, and they created a community that consistently plays (us now with PTCGL) it no matter how trashy it is.
    I don't think Live is going anywhere, we're just gonna get the crumbs while Pocket gets the whole cake~

  • @SneaVal
    @SneaVal 10 місяців тому +1

    Who works on what?

    • @symphonixblades
      @symphonixblades 9 місяців тому +1

      TPC greenlight Pocket, DeNa and Creatures are developing it. TPCi has greenlight and developed Live.They are like two different divisions of Pokemon Company. Presents is from TPC, therefore features games greenlight by TPC, which is why Live was never featured in a Presents

  • @TheOnlyGHOST1015
    @TheOnlyGHOST1015 Місяць тому +1

    Can you log in with your TCG live account into pockets????

  • @aqa2866
    @aqa2866 10 місяців тому +1

    all i want is my X Y cards in expanded WHAA

  • @francosoltero5824
    @francosoltero5824 10 місяців тому

    At last would accept trades, so multi account would be a thing

  • @ToodleDoodle
    @ToodleDoodle 10 місяців тому

    If what I'm reading is correct about mechanically new cards exclusive to TCG Pocket, then they likely looked at MTG Arena's Alchemy and vowed to do worse.

  • @DemiDeus314
    @DemiDeus314 Місяць тому +1

    So far, yes. Its replacing it

  • @Yummy_69
    @Yummy_69 4 місяці тому

    No trade, no play.

  • @asmodaiosamagaming66
    @asmodaiosamagaming66 Місяць тому

    I can't focus on attending on real life battle TCG when I keep thinking of this game 3 BENCH 3 POINT WIN MEANWHILE 6 BENCH 6 POINT TO WIN WOW

  • @3grouch
    @3grouch 6 місяців тому +2

    Personally I'll be pivoting to pocket. Quicker battles sounds ideal in a busy day to day.

  • @leosc24
    @leosc24 10 місяців тому

    Na, it's basically a way they can add super micro transactions to fill the void of the trading aspect and card collecting so they can make a game that is clearly gonna have a big budget so they can take advantage pf everyone who's missing the trading and collecting aspect to the game. In other words they want to make a game that will work perfectly, I assume, as they want to have a great way to dig further in our pockets so or wallet can fill the void of the crap they ripped away from us. While leaving us with a bug riddled low budget game for the real players of the game..

    • @Yoshizuyuner
      @Yoshizuyuner 10 місяців тому

      true real life is so buggy rn

  • @Herb774
    @Herb774 9 місяців тому

    1:09 ???

  • @WyrmLimion
    @WyrmLimion 9 місяців тому

    Sounds like it.

  • @Glitch0836
    @Glitch0836 8 місяців тому

    Why don’t we just go back to ptcgo..?😭

  • @kellyd1910
    @kellyd1910 10 місяців тому

    LOL THAT'S WILD 😂😂😂😂 IM ENJOYING MASTER DUEL SO FAR SMH

  • @JanderStrahd
    @JanderStrahd 10 місяців тому

    Editable, balanceable, erratable cards, and a revamped Energy system which doesn't *require* massive acceleration to play just isn't allowed; we have to keep exchanging for the two or three good EXs, stack as much consistency as we can, eschew all utility, and be happy with our dailies being bugged and having to play eight more matches to get one Knockout, again. *What would our children say* about being able to play non-Rule Box cards and have fun? No, we need to stick with tradition and reinvent Charizard ex until the next Rule Box Charizard, because that's what a *#GenWinner* does!

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 10 місяців тому

    Didn't even watch Pokemon day, what the hell is this?

  • @RedpandaJourney
    @RedpandaJourney 10 місяців тому +1

    Funnily enough Master Duel is a superior experience in many ways when it comes to YGO. But then again vanilla YGO is really really unbalanced. Sadly Live is very likely not gonna be a superior experience to Pocket.

  • @dmax9324
    @dmax9324 9 місяців тому

    I dont play TCG in any format at all, and I haven't since I was a kid in the 90s/2000s. I've wanted to get into a digital version for years, but the offerings have looked horrendous. Pocket looks like the right game to just casually get into. They know the audience they want and don't really care about the passionate real players. This is a business in which they want to monetize a larger market. Honestly can't blame them for that, and folks like myself will he plenty happy starting a new game regardless of other games out there that are too complicated regardless of functionality.

  • @xvxBarbatosxvx
    @xvxBarbatosxvx 4 місяці тому

    Once again pokemon doing everything except what they need to, smh! I'll spend my time and money elsewhere.

  • @jaydenmathews2221
    @jaydenmathews2221 9 місяців тому +1

    It looks fun and it’s a new free pokémon game. Who cares I don’t know why we complain when we are just getting more Pokémon content.

  • @DylanSmith-x6o
    @DylanSmith-x6o 10 місяців тому

    uh

  • @freedomgaming9987
    @freedomgaming9987 10 місяців тому +5

    Pocket is such an nft scam and im so sick of Nintendo not funding the one that actually matters.

    • @StarFruitNinjaCR
      @StarFruitNinjaCR Місяць тому

      Lol pocket is far from a scam. It's a really fun app getting even more people interested in the pokemon tcg. Players who have never experienced pokemon before will most likely download pocket which will introduce them without overwhelming them. If they really get interested in it they might even start playing live too. It's a win win for pokemon fans.

  • @christianlamb
    @christianlamb 10 місяців тому +1

    Ugghhhh