Ye. He was cheating. He was calling hands with a %5 probability of winning (Ace high crap, calling an all in raise with the board paired), and mucking cards where he had a %95 chance of being ahead...He %100 was cheating. Coincidentally, the main reason that phones are no longer allowed at many poker games.
86% win rate. At ONE venue and NO OTHERS. Please give me a break: that's all anyone should need in order to say "cheating occurred". It may not be "legal proof", but in the court of public opinion, it's enough. Go somewhere else and win. Show us how your style of poker works ANYWHERE else. Or else drop your lawsuits and shut up and disappear. Well... that settles that, then. Moving on
Granted, I’m only a minute and a half into this, but Mike could never have done this without access to the live feed. I don’t believe anyone was ever brought to justice on that end. In my opinion, Justin was definitely in on it.
It seems like all he had to do was intentionally flub just a handful of bonkers-level improbable hands to avoid suspicion, or at least to avoid it for a much longer period of time. But, the real reason he got away with it for so long I would wager is the casinos weren't interested in tackling the problem. As long as he was a draw to bring more people in, and it's other people's money being lost, they couldn't be bothered.
this is the cherry on top that makes his situation so much worse, on top of how egregiously obvious the cheating was, he never even considered getting caught and showed how greedy he really was
Not so smart and too greedy some people. How easy would it be to cut the winnings to just $60k a year, have a bad year of $30k and fly under the radar?
He wasn't playing at a casino. He was playing at one specific card room. He was being fed real-time info on his opponent's card by a Stone's employee. This wouldn't have worked anywhere else, as there needed to be the inside person colluding.
@@TILT223 if you didn’t reach out to him for comment it would be a shame. He told me that all these people who do these clickbait videos never contact him. Odd don’t you think?
@@expose1657Why bother? He is only going to say I was proven innocent in court and obviously he's not going on any pod cast period. I can guarantee the top guys would love to have him....he's doing what's best for him and shutting the F up
@@Pav298 There are probably more people than you realize who stopped playing because of how slow smartphones made the games. People routinely act out of turn or need to be informed about the action in front of them before they can act. It's not a hardship to ask people not to have their phones out at the table. If you need/want to use your phone step away from the table. You might miss a hand, but I would rather they miss a hand than slow down play for everyone so they can feed their social media addiction. Incidentally, it would probably also improve a lot of people's play if they focused on the game.
Why the heck would the accused file a defamation lawsuit after having the initial allegations dismissed?!? One of the legal defenses against defamation is for the defendant to prove that what they were saying is true, and a lawsuit allows the defendant to participate in the discovery process which opens the case up for investigation again after the poker loophole has already shut it down. A good gambler would know to quit while they were ahead
Because he wanted to give them a chance to prove he did. Because he knew he didn’t. Why didn’t the accusers use that opportunity to dig through everything of his?
@@expose1657they dug through everything and proved it well beyond any shadow of a doubt but the kicker is in the court of public opinion as the video stated a legal loop hole made it so no evidence was ever heard in court of law
8:22 - To be fair, Postle claims that his winnings were only half of what the people used to input into the graph (I think he said $100K-$125K - about 20 big blinds per hour, while the graph used $200-$250K). $125K on $1/$3 blinds is still pretty insane, considering winning 10 BB/hour ($60K/year) is considered "crushing" it.
I followed this back when it happened pretty close. I was convinced just from the examples Doug Polk and others were highlighting but when that graph you showed (8:19) came out I was floored. To see such a relatively tight cluster compared to how much of an outlier he was is insane. Especially when you understand that the other dot there (potripper) is another known cheating incident where someone on the inside of the online poker site Absolute Poker had hole card information for his opponents. In short, a known cheater plotted against the normal range of results is a huge outlier comparatively. And when Mike "the god" Postle is plotted against both of them he is a massive outlier to the known cheater. And not just in a few hands, over a single session, or even a couple of sessions, but over a prolonged period of time.
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That Queen Jack hand that he folded, tells you all there is to know. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is folding top pair with a gut shot on the turn. Hell, on a super connected board like that, some might have opted to reraise.
8:20. This is where is totally messed up. That huge BLUE blob is where everyone else is at with a few exceptional players who slightly outside the blue blob. If Mike stayed just slightly outside the blue blob, he would have never gotten caught. Like all cheaters, once he started he couldn't stop,.
it's absurd how POStle just couldn't take a loss, i would have just played my regular game and when the river came i would THEN peek to see if got sucked out on etc.
Postle doesn’t play GTO, he plays Crotch Theory Optimal. Also it’s impossible to play GTO. People try their best and use deviations against specific players.
Crotch theory optimal! Haha, haven't heard that for a while! GTO is only possible if you know the exact bet sizes an opponent will use and use them to build the solves. It is however very possible to learn the gist of what it teaches you - the point with poker is that you are playing against other players (or bots :0) and that the player who plays closest to what gto would suggest, is going to come out n top. Cheers.
The US is truly a special country with an absurd legal system: how can a person, that was essentially a nobody (outside of the very small circle of people that knew about the Stone's stream) come out of the wood work and ask for 330 million from private individuals for defamation??? Yes, I know that's never what you get assigned and yes, I know that if it's directed at a company, it can include a punitive side to it, but just the fact that you even ask for this much money from private individuals (who obviously have no means of ever paying such an absurd sum) is absolutely ridiculous
I watched this as it was going down. It was pretty intense. No one knew in the beginning, then peoples suspected then no one was sure then maybe accomplices it was crazy.
11:34 Veronica's class action may have been shut down due to a legal loop hole, but with that statement, she could have sued Postle for defamation and exposed Postel via that route.
crazy thing is that even though it was insanely obvious he's a cheater , it still took years to "catch" him and then the punishment was literally nothing. people are gonna get more and more brazen cheating not just in poker but at everything because it takes forever to catch them and by the time you do they already benefitted massively from cheating, and the most that happens to them is they get banned. our society needs an overhaul on dealing with cheaters.
@@Vile_Entity_3545 u dont win that much at 86 percent and then fold on better hands because even though its a bad beat, it shows the numbers were against you. And if he was clearly amazing he would go to Vegas for high stakes
@@buckiemohawk3643 That proves nothing. I want 100% proof. Even a one in a trillion will come in. Hardly likely if only 1 ticket is bought but it still could. Now it is very likely he did cheat but nobody has the right to say he was unless proven 100% and caught.
I've played against Postle since this came out and I can confirm he's not one of the best poker players ever. I'm not saying he definitely cheated but, I don't see how he didn't cheat
I think it says more about our society that during a game of poker, it's socially acceptable to check your phone. Like "Oh, my bet, hang on, I'm winning Clash of Clans"
I will never play with a table that uses RFID. its prone to being exploited. if there is an inside man its even easier as you know the correct order rfid tags for each card. or even just the best cards so aces, K,Q,J,T. if not if you get a reader and play enough games you can figure it out anyway it just takes a bit longer. The RFID poker creator says its impossible for someone to know the cards as they are random and can only be known to the rfid Owner. and that is what I mean. even if you didn't know the owner or have the insider help. once you play enough hands you could record the rfid numbers that come up each game. and you would memorise when aces, kings queens etc come up. then you have your answer. you can then know which random numbers strings are for the good cards. and bam you have just increased your odds by sooo much just by knmowing where an ace king queen jacks are
Something to keep in mind, the card room wasn't being cheated. They collected their rake, didn't have much incentive to investigate until the reputation hit got too big.
I’ve played with Postle and can confirm he had god-like abilities . All these jealous players just don’t understand his ways . Plus if you look at his eyeballs you will see only honesty.
Why go so big, why not something like 53% win rate grind out free 100k a year don’t raise any flags. Like cheating on a test, teacher knows when the dumbass kid turns in a A+ on his paper what happened, should went for the C+ my guy
I was there for that whole ordeal and I have to say that nothing talked about was any proof like even saying he is in the 95th percentile is like yeah so somebody has to be people have to fall into every single percentile it is simple math.There are also ways to read the bets to get an idea of what your opponents have and just because you have the flop doesn't mean your winning. Now if the opponent just calls then sure you can say it is a suspicious fold but if the opponent bets a lot they likely have something.
You completely miss the relevance of the scatter graph. The cluster of dots is every other player's win rate in the sim. Potripper's dot is a famous online cheater who could see everyone's hole cards every hand, and played a perfect game. Mike's win rate is BETTER than that.
He wasn't using a bot, but he was using sims to get information between hands. Apparently there was no official rule in the WSOP rulebook that covered it very well, but there were announcements that you "may" be DQ'd for it. Apparently nobody who noticed on site said anything to the floor staff, and so nobody in authority seems to have known until it was all over. At this point nothing is going to happen to him, but we will almost certainly get a clear cut rule in the books to stop it going forward.
It’s impossible to be “the worst cheater ever” when he literally did not cheat. Checking solvers and sims between hands is frowned upon and has a bad look but is clearly not cheating. 🤦♂️
I've said it before among friends, but if you know all the cards you actually have to be a BETTER poker player to get away with it because you have to know how to make a play make sense. You can't just call a pot-sized bet every time with bottom-pair-no-kicker or J-high on something like a 4-flush/4straight board because you know they're bluffing.
@@TILT223Great videos but your team needs to do some edits on the copy and facts used in just about every video I’ve watched. Seems you’re taking the writers’ first draft and just throwing it up…. Example; the $15 million winner blackjack video, the writer just leaves out the cards the player would have needed to receive on each hand after splitting the 88 four times and then doubling down after receiving 3s and 2s on 3 of the hands…..then all of a sudden the dealer was getting their card.
Why risk the easily observed looks at phone in lap and bulge in hat? A player being fed into could have a device in their pants pocket or shoe that tells them which seat has the winning hand by an undetectable pulse. 4 pulses = seat 4. If he goes heads up against someone, then the pulse could be 1 for the cheater and 2 for the opponent.
im confussed i dont get how him folding to that $600 bet was crazy. i would have folded also only having a jj pair knowing that the opp could have a straight, why would i pursue and hope for a 10 when i could fold and be smart... idk man i dont see why thats so suprising ieven if cheating or not knowing to fold there is prime knoldege
He got caught, he knows he’s caught, but he can’t come out and say it because he will get canceled by the poker community and people will ask for their money back. This guy 100% cheated, they shoulda came up with a more subtle way to do it…like keep your win 60/40% and not make ridiculous plays in ridiculous spots lol. I have a feeling Postle already knew the legal loophole and that’s why he didn’t admit as well
@@TILT223cell phones are allowed in all poker games. Nobody is going to take away cell phones needed to text , listen to music, and stay entertained in between hands because 1 person uses one to cheat. There is a discussion about taking away phones during major tournaments but probably won’t ever happen; and it definitely won’t happen in cash games like the one Postle cheated in….
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Has anyone ever said your voice sound remarkably like Caan Berry?
Respect to Veronica for being relentless about seeking answers to such obvious shadiness
100% it must have taken quite a lot of nerve, with no payoff.
He is literally LOOKING at his phone EVERYTIME he makes the best call possible 😂 the most obvious cheat ever.
Why didn't they temporarily issue a no-phones rule and see what happens to his play? Or just ask him to lift his fucking hat?
@@StefanReichExactly!!!
Ye. He was cheating. He was calling hands with a %5 probability of winning (Ace high crap, calling an all in raise with the board paired), and mucking cards where he had a %95 chance of being ahead...He %100 was cheating. Coincidentally, the main reason that phones are no longer allowed at many poker games.
The stream delay was 30 minutes though so they thought nothing of it.
Fair point.
86% win rate. At ONE venue and NO OTHERS. Please give me a break: that's all anyone should need in order to say "cheating occurred".
It may not be "legal proof", but in the court of public opinion, it's enough.
Go somewhere else and win. Show us how your style of poker works ANYWHERE else. Or else drop your lawsuits and shut up and disappear.
Well... that settles that, then. Moving on
Its the conclusion that many came to. I think if I were Mike, I would have played elsewhere to prove the innocence.
This
@@TILT223playing elsewhere would of just made it look worse because he wouldn't even come close to what he was doing while cheating.
@@TILT223 No you wouldn't because you'd just prove you're guilty LOL
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great content as always, but these aren’t tournaments, they’re cash games
He said 1 3 cash
My bad he did start saying tournaments later
Granted, I’m only a minute and a half into this, but Mike could never have done this without access to the live feed. I don’t believe anyone was ever brought to justice on that end. In my opinion, Justin was definitely in on it.
but you also say that 9/11 wasnt an inside job....gfy
The hours and hours i spent on joey ingram stream delving into this at time ,wild time in the poker world
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He was in on it
Stones investigated themselves and found that no wrongdoing had occured.
HCL investigated itself foud no wrong-doing regarding the Garrett/Law scandal... did anyone expect anything different?
Sports betting is difficult - if you want to conquer this I suggest reading a chapter about this in a book called Gambler Manifesto
I’ve actually read it in ebook format and it is damn good
This doesn't sound legit.
@@TILT223the comment scams are getting way more elaborate they got ebooks now 😭
@@TILT223 It's just another tag team scam fake discussion happening. You should delete this thread.
It seems like all he had to do was intentionally flub just a handful of bonkers-level improbable hands to avoid suspicion, or at least to avoid it for a much longer period of time. But, the real reason he got away with it for so long I would wager is the casinos weren't interested in tackling the problem. As long as he was a draw to bring more people in, and it's other people's money being lost, they couldn't be bothered.
this is the cherry on top that makes his situation so much worse, on top of how egregiously obvious the cheating was, he never even considered getting caught and showed how greedy he really was
Not so smart and too greedy some people.
How easy would it be to cut the winnings to just $60k a year, have a bad year of $30k and fly under the radar?
He wasn't playing at a casino. He was playing at one specific card room. He was being fed real-time info on his opponent's card by a Stone's employee. This wouldn't have worked anywhere else, as there needed to be the inside person colluding.
He could have learned from "Mike" in Rounders folding the kings. Sometimes its just too obvious.
I think it was the head of stones that was in on it
This is awesome! Postle's body language screams cheating!
The math points that way too, a shame there was never a fuller conclusion.
Maybe because he knew about the rumors and was trolling them.. because he was.
@@TILT223 if you didn’t reach out to him for comment it would be a shame. He told me that all these people who do these clickbait videos never contact him. Odd don’t you think?
@@expose1657Why bother? He is only going to say I was proven innocent in court and obviously he's not going on any pod cast period. I can guarantee the top guys would love to have him....he's doing what's best for him and shutting the F up
not really fan boy
Ban cell phones and any electronics at the table
Pretty simple
I followed this a few years ago and there was a lot of debate about this. The main reason is that a lot of people won't play if you ban phones.
100% this.
@@Pav298 There are probably more people than you realize who stopped playing because of how slow smartphones made the games. People routinely act out of turn or need to be informed about the action in front of them before they can act.
It's not a hardship to ask people not to have their phones out at the table. If you need/want to use your phone step away from the table. You might miss a hand, but I would rather they miss a hand than slow down play for everyone so they can feed their social media addiction. Incidentally, it would probably also improve a lot of people's play if they focused on the game.
this won't solve anything. Watch Solve for Why's video from a couple weeks ago.
@@benrock9430 May I ask for a (very) brief summary/cliff notes?
Why the heck would the accused file a defamation lawsuit after having the initial allegations dismissed?!? One of the legal defenses against defamation is for the defendant to prove that what they were saying is true, and a lawsuit allows the defendant to participate in the discovery process which opens the case up for investigation again after the poker loophole has already shut it down. A good gambler would know to quit while they were ahead
Because Postle is not a good gambler lol
Because he wanted to give them a chance to prove he did. Because he knew he didn’t. Why didn’t the accusers use that opportunity to dig through everything of his?
@@expose1657they dug through everything and proved it well beyond any shadow of a doubt but the kicker is in the court of public opinion as the video stated a legal loop hole made it so no evidence was ever heard in court of law
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Postel IS zero !!
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the math speaks for itself
The math is a public worksheet by sleuths. It can’t be trusted as it’s not validated and there’s only 10,000% for errors
you misspelled meth
8:22 - To be fair, Postle claims that his winnings were only half of what the people used to input into the graph (I think he said $100K-$125K - about 20 big blinds per hour, while the graph used $200-$250K). $125K on $1/$3 blinds is still pretty insane, considering winning 10 BB/hour ($60K/year) is considered "crushing" it.
Good cheaters make deliberate mistakes. If you're running so well that you've basically got god like powers, people get suspicious.
True that.
I followed this back when it happened pretty close. I was convinced just from the examples Doug Polk and others were highlighting but when that graph you showed (8:19) came out I was floored.
To see such a relatively tight cluster compared to how much of an outlier he was is insane. Especially when you understand that the other dot there (potripper) is another known cheating incident where someone on the inside of the online poker site Absolute Poker had hole card information for his opponents.
In short, a known cheater plotted against the normal range of results is a huge outlier comparatively. And when Mike "the god" Postle is plotted against both of them he is a massive outlier to the known cheater.
And not just in a few hands, over a single session, or even a couple of sessions, but over a prolonged period of time.
All the stats and data and charts nand graphs were manipulated bs that many sheeple fell for.
And the fact he was a losing player up until one random day and refused to play off the stream and when he did play off stream he would lose.
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Awesome, thanks.
If you've found a cheat and get greedy and chose not to ever lose them it's idiotic.
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That Queen Jack hand that he folded, tells you all there is to know. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is folding top pair with a gut shot on the turn. Hell, on a super connected board like that, some might have opted to reraise.
Another one well told, can't wait til the next one :)
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i only got into poker shortly after this whole saga and i had no idea Marley was a figure in this! Was not expecting some Spraggy lore
Veronica is a freakin hero for this! Thank you Veronica!
8:20. This is where is totally messed up. That huge BLUE blob is where everyone else is at with a few exceptional players who slightly outside the blue blob. If Mike stayed just slightly outside the blue blob, he would have never gotten caught. Like all cheaters, once he started he couldn't stop,.
it's absurd how POStle just couldn't take a loss, i would have just played my regular game and when the river came i would THEN peek to see if got sucked out on etc.
Amazing story telling as always.
Why do these games allow phones in laps? Seems like an easy way to reduce suspicious play.
Lots have said the same, I think it changed now. I think they assumed it was not a problem because of the 30 minute delay as mentioned in the video.
@@TILT223it hasn’t changed and most likely never will. Phones are allowed.
I had no idea this story was covering MIke Postle because the pic looks nothing like him LMFAOOO
It is pretty easy you remove the things that can be related to cheating like the cell phone etc etc.
Postle doesn’t play GTO, he plays Crotch Theory Optimal. Also it’s impossible to play GTO. People try their best and use deviations against specific players.
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Crotch theory optimal! Haha, haven't heard that for a while! GTO is only possible if you know the exact bet sizes an opponent will use and use them to build the solves. It is however very possible to learn the gist of what it teaches you - the point with poker is that you are playing against other players (or bots :0) and that the player who plays closest to what gto would suggest, is going to come out n top.
Cheers.
The US is truly a special country with an absurd legal system: how can a person, that was essentially a nobody (outside of the very small circle of people that knew about the Stone's stream) come out of the wood work and ask for 330 million from private individuals for defamation???
Yes, I know that's never what you get assigned and yes, I know that if it's directed at a company, it can include a punitive side to it, but just the fact that you even ask for this much money from private individuals (who obviously have no means of ever paying such an absurd sum) is absolutely ridiculous
What’s even more proof is how bad he’s played since finally playing again
Good video can’t wait for the next one
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Every great poker player stares at their crotch to figure out what they should do next😂
I only play small games but none of them would allow a phone under the table.. most no phone at the table at all.
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He’s either the greatest poker player to ever exist. Making Phil Ivey look terrible. Or he’s cheating. I choose the ladder
If he was really that good, he should have been over at Bobby's Room at the Bellagio and making millions.
I hate this because when a mf sit at a table and lose 86 percent of the tournaments nobody has nothing to say but when you win now you cheating
this video doesn't do the investigation justice, the evidence against him is overwhelming !
The Ingram stream was goated too “HE’S JUST A GOD”
All players need to go thru security scanners and wear specific attire...ie no caps or sunglasses, hoodies etc.
I watched this as it was going down. It was pretty intense. No one knew in the beginning, then peoples suspected then no one was sure then maybe accomplices it was crazy.
Top quality
11:34 Veronica's class action may have been shut down due to a legal loop hole, but with that statement, she could have sued Postle for defamation and exposed Postel via that route.
crazy thing is that even though it was insanely obvious he's a cheater , it still took years to "catch" him and then the punishment was literally nothing. people are gonna get more and more brazen cheating not just in poker but at everything because it takes forever to catch them and by the time you do they already benefitted massively from cheating, and the most that happens to them is they get banned. our society needs an overhaul on dealing with cheaters.
I was around watching this all play out starting from Joey's livestreams. This is a pretty decent and fair summary. Dude 100% cheated imo. Nice work.
How though? Prove it.
@@Vile_Entity_3545he could see the cards from the stream, it was proven Jack off
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@@Vile_Entity_3545 u dont win that much at 86 percent and then fold on better hands because even though its a bad beat, it shows the numbers were against you. And if he was clearly amazing he would go to Vegas for high stakes
@@buckiemohawk3643 That proves nothing. I want 100% proof. Even a one in a trillion will come in. Hardly likely if only 1 ticket is bought but it still could.
Now it is very likely he did cheat but nobody has the right to say he was unless proven 100% and caught.
cell phones etc are not allowed at exams why would it be any different here
if anyone stumbled onto this and was wondering like me: yes its the postle thing
edit: she's holding quads not a queen high straight lmao
I've played against Postle since this came out and I can confirm he's not one of the best poker players ever. I'm not saying he definitely cheated but, I don't see how he didn't cheat
The title should be Worlds dumbest poker cheats.
I think it says more about our society that during a game of poker, it's socially acceptable to check your phone. Like "Oh, my bet, hang on, I'm winning Clash of Clans"
Props to Doug Polk for covering this story excellently back then!
I will never play with a table that uses RFID. its prone to being exploited. if there is an inside man its even easier as you know the correct order rfid tags for each card. or even just the best cards so aces, K,Q,J,T. if not if you get a reader and play enough games you can figure it out anyway it just takes a bit longer.
The RFID poker creator says its impossible for someone to know the cards as they are random and can only be known to the rfid Owner.
and that is what I mean. even if you didn't know the owner or have the insider help. once you play enough hands you could record the rfid numbers that come up each game. and you would memorise when aces, kings queens etc come up. then you have your answer. you can then know which random numbers strings are for the good cards. and bam you have just increased your odds by sooo much just by knmowing where an ace king queen jacks are
Something to keep in mind, the card room wasn't being cheated. They collected their rake, didn't have much incentive to investigate until the reputation hit got too big.
Why would he play such low limits ?
I’ve played with Postle and can confirm he had god-like abilities . All these jealous players just don’t understand his ways . Plus if you look at his eyeballs you will see only honesty.
I am sure that there are smart cheaters out there flying under the radar and knowing when to lose not to raise suspicion
You would think, these are the ones that often make for the most interesting stories. If you take a look at last weeks upload we covered one of them.
Veronica was a legend for this
veronica who. exactly
Ban devices at the table will solve almost all problems of this type
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One of my favourite comments haha. You know for years I didnt realise that emoji was a high five, I thought it was praying.
@@TILT223 I thought it was praying too, when I type pray it would pop up
When you said "Back story", my mind was thinking "Rack" :D :D :D
Do one about Robbie J4 offsuit
Why go so big, why not something like 53% win rate grind out free 100k a year don’t raise any flags. Like cheating on a test, teacher knows when the dumbass kid turns in a A+ on his paper what happened, should went for the C+ my guy
Can’t believe it was Spraggys wife involved in this! And can’t believe I didn’t realise it sooner. Unbelievable! She’s a gem. Feel for her.
All you needed to know is that winning 1000 bb per 100 hands is impossible. Idk how anyone was ever on his side after that came out
Did he pay the money back? No, so he did get away.
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I was there for that whole ordeal and I have to say that nothing talked about was any proof like even saying he is in the 95th percentile is like yeah so somebody has to be people have to fall into every single percentile it is simple math.There are also ways to read the bets to get an idea of what your opponents have and just because you have the flop doesn't mean your winning.
Now if the opponent just calls then sure you can say it is a suspicious fold but if the opponent bets a lot they likely have something.
Not to mention "the graphics are wrong" when things got too egregious. Impossible to happen the way it did with mike.
Interesting...
That's on 16th Street right? The little shitty casino?
How has he not been filled in?
You completely miss the relevance of the scatter graph. The cluster of dots is every other player's win rate in the sim. Potripper's dot is a famous online cheater who could see everyone's hole cards every hand, and played a perfect game. Mike's win rate is BETTER than that.
Is TILT Hard Up Garage?
What's that?
He was so dumb. All he had to do was lose less than half the time. He could have printed unlimited money and never been caught.
3:57 Good idea to split those Nines... 😅
Lol. I did notice the blackjack hand in there too. Ah well, still a good video.
I think the worst cheater ever is the person who just won the world series of poker by using an online bot.
I see that recently
He wasn't using a bot, but he was using sims to get information between hands.
Apparently there was no official rule in the WSOP rulebook that covered it very well, but there were announcements that you "may" be DQ'd for it. Apparently nobody who noticed on site said anything to the floor staff, and so nobody in authority seems to have known until it was all over.
At this point nothing is going to happen to him, but we will almost certainly get a clear cut rule in the books to stop it going forward.
Russ Hamilton has entered the chat 😂
It’s impossible to be “the worst cheater ever” when he literally did not cheat. Checking solvers and sims between hands is frowned upon and has a bad look but is clearly not cheating. 🤦♂️
@homebusinessmastermind8641
Not supposed to have on the floor and he did. You can get DQ for it but nobody noticed it.
Already knew this was Postle from the title
I've said it before among friends, but if you know all the cards you actually have to be a BETTER poker player to get away with it because you have to know how to make a play make sense. You can't just call a pot-sized bet every time with bottom-pair-no-kicker or J-high on something like a 4-flush/4straight board because you know they're bluffing.
That casino worker ought to know there is no such thing as 100% secure.
Cash games, not tournaments.
Thanks for the note, the writer went from the resources but we see exactly what you mean now - will improve.
@@TILT223Great videos but your team needs to do some edits on the copy and facts used in just about every video I’ve watched. Seems you’re taking the writers’ first draft and just throwing it up….
Example; the $15 million winner blackjack video, the writer just leaves out the cards the player would have needed to receive on each hand after splitting the 88 four times and then doubling down after receiving 3s and 2s on 3 of the hands…..then all of a sudden the dealer was getting their card.
Why risk the easily observed looks at phone in lap and bulge in hat? A player being fed into could have a device in their pants pocket or shoe that tells them which seat has the winning hand by an undetectable pulse. 4 pulses = seat 4. If he goes heads up against someone, then the pulse could be 1 for the cheater and 2 for the opponent.
He didn't cheat. He was in God Mode!
wait this is just another video about Mike Postle. Why does it show a completely different guy in the thumbnail?
Crotch Theory Optimal
Ban all electronic devices for all players.
If the game is so boring that they need distractions to occupy their time, then poker isn't for them.
I think that's pretty fair.
im confussed i dont get how him folding to that $600 bet was crazy. i would have folded also only having a jj pair knowing that the opp could have a straight, why would i pursue and hope for a 10 when i could fold and be smart... idk man i dont see why thats so suprising ieven if cheating or not knowing to fold there is prime knoldege
like with all these pros no idk why they think it would have been good to call there
like ive never even played poker irl only online and i would have folded also lmao
Pair and gut shot is a float
Maybe players that in the hand can keep their cards on the rail instead of on the table.
feel like the thumpnail is making him look more like thor as opposed to reality
Haha thats funny now you said, you know Thor is a mythical charachter right?
@@TILT223 yeah but come on you made a old fat guy look like some kind of powerlifter with this image xD
He got caught, he knows he’s caught, but he can’t come out and say it because he will get canceled by the poker community and people will ask for their money back. This guy 100% cheated, they shoulda came up with a more subtle way to do it…like keep your win 60/40% and not make ridiculous plays in ridiculous spots lol. I have a feeling Postle already knew the legal loophole and that’s why he didn’t admit as well
I work for a company that both makes and utilizes RFID systems. Putting RFID strips in playing cards is a horrible idea! Way too easy to scam.
My only question is why didn’t anybody try and snatch his phone out of his lap?
It's pretty obvious that he's cheating when he doesn't play anywhere else, especially since he has trouble making ends meet at 1 and 3 dollar table
Veronica is amazing for doing the right thing, I have no doubt Postel cheated as he could only win on the RFID live stream table
Such a strong woman.
Why are cell phones even allowed?
so he could cheat
They'll always be allowed. But I think they'll ban them if you're in the hand. Collusion would be obvious
Not sure they are now...
@@TILT223cell phones are allowed in all poker games. Nobody is going to take away cell phones needed to text , listen to music, and stay entertained in between hands because 1 person uses one to cheat.
There is a discussion about taking away phones during major tournaments but probably won’t ever happen; and it definitely won’t happen in cash games like the one Postle cheated in….