And Ron Hubbard started his own Religion & David Miscavige assumed that he is the owner of that Religion Power hunger & money, is the root of all evil!
When I found out Ron passed after this, was very disheartening. But what a pure man. His story is so touching. I'm glad he made it out of scientology a survivor.
Awe may he rest in peace. At least he was able to enjoy the end of his life. He was very entertaining & I enjoyed how he told his story. So sad his son chose power & money over a relationship with him. I think the cookie is truly beginning to crumble though. I hope the others find a way out as well & the scientology mafia gets deflated.
I’ve got a real soft spot for Ron. What his son has said about him is a disgrace and he must be heartbroken. I just know he’s a good man....I wish him all the best❤️🙏🏻
I started researching Scientology a few years before Lisa McPherson died. They are a horrible organization, not a religion. They need to have heir tax exemption status taken away NOW.
@@davidmorris9596 Churches and the like get tax exempt because they are non profit. Nothing to tax. Scientology is trying to squeak themselves into this god and Jesus shit that doesn't apply to them because they are famously uncharitable.
@@davidmorris9596 well because generally the charity they perform is more beneficial to society than taxing them is. What i want to know is why isn't EVERYONE tax exempt 🤷♂️
Agree, how can a money making organization that demands payments for services be called a religion? It's absurd to me. I don't get why the irs isn't all over them.
Ron’s book is a great read. It’s named Ruthless. I always love listening to his interviews. The world needs to adopt his philosophy on life...help somebody, help something. Tomorrow is a new day.
Right? Lol same happened to me. I'm lucky that there is a good podcast on the subject (Leah Remini and Mike Rinder's "Fair Game") or else, no joke, I would've called out of work just so I could stay with my device and continue down said rabbit hole...lol
R0n is controlled opposition ,,,,check out the Documentarys,,by Josh Reeves ,,SPELLCASTERS ,,,volume 1 and 2 ... It's all about the CIA connection and other crazy truths ,,R0N ,,or RlmlNl ,,never mention...
"Well I'm sure the shit hit the fan"- so funny but so tragic. This man was in his 70's when he escaped Scientology, he said he only wanted to live his life in freedom he says. Living in freedom meant escaping from his own son. I can't imagine that level of fear and sadness yet exhilaration to be free. Just a whole blender full of emotions.
From what I’ve read in his book, it should be expected for him. He isn’t a detached man by any means. He talks about always looking for something more to learn and it clearly shows.
@@Wastelander1972 I'm not detached either but still have hard time following what's the new expression for whatever new word Internet decided to replace
Ron's story is fascinating. His music is good. I use one of his songs as a ringtone. I love to listen to him. He sure doesn't show his age. If I recall, he's about 84. I loved his book.
Ron is a musician. Musicians must have a heart and soul. I’d be willing to bet Ron’s son can’t sing or play a note. Had David Miscavige been taught to play harmonica, it would have helped his asthma, and made him a better person.
I am seventy years old. My own father, Patrick, long dead was also sucked into the pyramid scheme Holiday Magic that Ron Talks about at 12:00. I remember that experience to this day and my dad's blind enthusiasm for something that was obviously a con. He was not selling the product but rather, like Ron, recruiting the sellers. It occurred to my family in the late 60s. I was a teenager at the time, but a thinking one. (Neither of us ever became Scientologists)...
@Kaelin Jones It's over fifty years ago since I last discussed Holiday Magic with my father, who died in '99, so much so that details of this particular reckless endeavor of his is getting a little hazy. But I remember well his enthusiasm for the scheme, in the early stages at least, and how he tried to enlist the aid of many of his male friends in order to recruit the young women who would then go on to actually sell this product. I seem to recall that the product was cosmetics that had the gimmick of using fruit as flavors. I never met any of the women who were recruited to do the peddling of these items, but I believe they had to buy their supplies off the middlemen before they went out to sell them door to door. The further up the organizational pyramid you got, the more money you made. The women actually doing the real selling work made relatively little unless they were ace sellers...
Scientology has some positive lessons and undoubtedly tempted many well-intentioned individuals in need of direction and tribe but, what recruiters were and are most skilled at targeting are the narcissistic types that feel the world hasn't appreciated their greatness and potential. Despite the superficial charm Ron performs here, I'm not sure how far the apple has fallen from the tree. Even as a teen you obviously possessed enough humility to not let the appeals to your ego overpower your logic.
@@liamhackett513 Good one, Liam. I like that line. Must remember to use it some time. Was Barnum in the same class as Mark Twain as someone eminently quotable?
non biz, LOL. No problem. I’m in a state where there is absolutely no Scientology, thank God. I would hate to have to worry about them getting their hands on my children.
@@MonicaDBrini There is a Scientology organization in every state, including Puerto Rico. Even states like Wyoming have a small office. I know this because I used to work for the Church as staff.
Bradley Morrison, I’ve been here in Virginia my whole life and have never seen one or known anyone who was a Scientologist. However, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one here somewhere I guess. If there is, it must be really small.
dude is condescending and controlling amidst the wise grandpa charm, I can see the conflict in personalities would have been huge. Not Ron's fault entirely obviously but, to say they got along great is either blinded narcissism or just not really knowing/considering your kid. Part of the times I suppose.
Well right off the bat I can’t believe the interviewer DIDN’T know that Ron would know who Mike Rinder is. I was like give me a break kid. Did he do zero research on his guest and the whole Scientology subject?
@@alison2649 oh for sure, i hoped that that was just a clumsy prompt maybe?. i meant to type in my comment about the conflict being between miscavige sr and jr growing up.
Now I see how people get hooked into Scientology. First people get hooked on self help. Then people get hooked on helping the rest of humanity. Also, Ron explained that there is truth at the beginning, then when things are introduced that are not true, people rely on their successes with the truth to keep them getting deeper. People must get to the breaking point of leaving Scientology when the oppression finally becomes so obvious it can't be denied.
I enjoy all of your interviews, but I keep coming back to this one. Ron was such an amazing person with an amazing spirit, and you were incredibly kind to him. The end always makes me cry because he truly had reached the highest levels after leaving that hateful organization, and he realized it thanks to you.
Sounds like you got issues yourself. Your biggest fear as a parent is not the consequences that your shortcomings could have, but that they might tell YOU that YOU’RE insignificant. The horror!!
@@mightytaiger3000 lmao why would I want to have child who doesn’t care about their mom? In this scenario it’s under me being a good hypothetical mom. I never acted like an innocent person incapable of being a POS. You’re clearly bothered but I’m not sure quite why
You can see in his eyes how painful the memory of dragging his entire family into this is for him. He's a talented storyteller, so I was often on the fence about some of the things he said... but that moment was absolutely genuine. 🤗
Yes I agree. I see alot of scientologist getting stick online but people must remember there brainwashed into a cult. Good people being manipulated they need support. Not hate to truly get scientology gone as an organisation requires people showing care towards the people in there to get rhem out not be against them
I thoroughly enjoyed this youtube interview. I and many others who knew David, Ron and their sisters, wondered where the Miscavige family had disappeared to and why. They were questions of mine which dated back decades to the late 1960s. How incredible the opportunity to finally discover where they went and how life changed so profoundly for the Miscavige family. I strongly encourage Mr. Miscavige to redo this interview allowing him to go into much greater detail, illustrating locations using google maps, graphics, early photographs of his family, particularly of David. Moreover, whomever interviews Mr. Miscavige should NOT interrupt him and his train of thought. The interview should be focused exclusively upon what Mr. Miscavige has to say, rather than promoting the interviewer. Prepare and present a detailed chronology of life before, during and after the family's Willingboro years. They were also likely the happiest and most innocent years of David's life.
I got hooked into following information on the internet regarding Scientology. I saw interviews, including this one, with Ron Miscavige. I hope he lives a long, long, healthy life. He is a sincere, deeply heartfelt person. Smart. I look forward to reading his book. and visiting his website. Unbelievable what this cult has gotten away with.. I also listened to Mike Rinder and Leah Remini (From King of Queens. Who were both in Scientology from a young age and got out. What a shame that Ron's son has missed out on his beautiful father who has come "full circle".
His story is a script for a film. A good and riveting one. Every time he is counting his story to another interviewer I’m listening and get riveted by his story. I’m never fed up with his story. I can hear it again and again and again. He injured spiritually from his family. And the only thing he wants is to have a life without a schedule & enjoy life, which considered this is a unforgettable server crime. Unfortunately, he is saying the truth. I believe to every word he is saying because I was myself in Scientology for 30 fricking years. Just for hurting him so much, I’m wishing that this business Scientology will go in flames and we never heard of it anymore.
Damn Ron is a hell of a man! Alot of balls and alot of humility! Much respect to this man for admitting he was wrong and loves his fucked up son anyway! No shit talk, only the truth! Mike Rinder too! Congrats
Every few months, I somehow end up on a Scientology rabbit hole spiral. I really so see how some of the aspects of it can be helpful to people. Getting rid of all the bs, negativity, etc. Its the OTHER shit that freaks me out...LOVED Mike's podcast, he really is an inspiring person. He shows that you can overcome shit-BAD shit- and come out the otherside ok. It seems as if he's trying to make amends for his "sins" with David and the cult. Trying to REALLY help people... Can you imagine having your son just walk away and then try to ruin you? Ron is amazing too. Being David M's dad has gotta be a bitch. David is evil. A true psychopath, it blows my mind to see his dad is so normal...id love to sit down , have a beer, and just chat. About it all. Find Ron's interview on Aussie 60 mins. Its a story about Shelley being missing...amazing.
My fiancé was UA-cam’in, I think he thought he was going on the wrong “Ron” or the wrong “Miscavige”. He’s learned to dislike Scientology through me, but he’s new to this!
I was a classmate of David Miscavige at Pennypacker Elementary School in Willingboro, New Jersey. Our teacher was Byron Jeffords. The curriculum we were in was experimental in that it was a non-graded, self-individualized instruction classroom setting, located in the hallway of one of four quads, adjacent to the then newly constructed school library. The class was composed of students from three grade levels. I was studying at the sixth grade level and David was studying at the fourth grade level. The experiment a mixed success of low intensity self-paced, individualized instruction. While small and slight in stature, David had a personality and voice many disproportionately large relative to his size. He was very intelligent and socially aggressive. He was more than capable of holding his own in any discussion and extraordinarily strong advocate for his ideas. No one dared argue with David. He was truly, even at that early age, a force of nature. In fact, he was one of only a hand full of students in that class I can remember. His closest friend was Paul Shelhardt. While David was at Pennypacker School, his father Ron was a Police Athletic League football coach. His brother Ron was a gifted gymnast at the Abraham Levitt Junior High School in Willingboro. I know for certain that David misses the life and friends he had in Willingboro. I would recommend a lengthy on-location interview of Ron Miscavige walking around his old residence on Peartree Lane and on the grounds of Pennypacker Elementary School. If then such a walk down memory lane in Pennypacker Park were then broadcast on youtube, I am absolutely certain David would tune in and watch. Walk the audience through the places David actually walked as a child. Bring David back via youtube to his childhood. Yes, at the time Ron moved his family our of Willingboro, then to Broomall, PA., as David indicated, students in the public schools weren't serious and didn't want to learn, they knew their rights and turned the Willingboro Public School system into a zoo. However, the answer was not to leave Willingboro for better schools, it was to transfer first to Corpus Christi Catholic School in Willingboro and then do what I eventually did, transfer from Levitt Junior Hight to Holy Cross in Delran, N.J. The parochial schools were light years ahead academically, providing an environment conducive to learning at an accelerated rate. My own adjustment from Willingboro to Holy Cross took me a full academic year to accomplish. Whereas the public school kids effectively exerted pressure t dumb down, Corpus Christi and Holy Cross where the complete opposite. The alternative education route I pursued was available to David, Ron, and his two sisters. How different your lives would have been if only you had exercised that option.
That was great to see Mr. Miscavige smile at the end of the interview when Danny cracked him up about "coming full circle". Mr. Miscavige has a tremdendous memory and is a great story teller. I can listen to him for hours. I hope one day he can reconcile with his family. Life is too short to be apart. As Ringo Starr says lets wish Mr. Miscavige and his family "Peace and Love, Peave and Love, Peace and Love".
Loved this interview.....I was on the Scientology scene for a while but this video really touched the soft spot and unfortunately I cannot yet forget my experience. Thank you both, continue as you are Danny........
Billion year contracts are not binding. That is why they make you sign additional and very law-realistic contracts as in "I will pay the freeloaders bill", or "I will pay 5000 dollar for every instance of speaking about Xenu or outing some bad PR from the org". The lawyers behind this scam are very smart.
Well, it could get even wackier: have you seen interviews of former NXIVM cult members? The leader of that cult branded his followers with his initials, and I mean with an actual red hot, metal cattle brand, and they were OK with that.
"You know what a gps is, right?" These moments were unintentionally humorous and it's not just because he's an old codger not sure what tech is new and what isn't, but I think this is a linguistic vestige of life immersed in Scientology with it's convoluted, misnomered lingo and ubiquitous acronyms. Aaron Smith-Levin sometimes says, "I dunno, guys, I grew up in a cult." After decades immersed in this organization people might have trouble finding a common language with the outside (what Aaron calls, 'the real') world. RIP Ron.
It's a valid frame of reference although I understand it has different connotations in Scientology. They also use similar phrases in the military when they want you to check in and see if you heard/were paying attention while they gave directions. In a non military context, I've had teachers ask those questions all the time to students. Is there a better way to say these things that doesn't sound cultish? Maybe, but it's hard to get your lexical patterns out after you've used them for so long. The biggest difference is that he's checking to make sure the interview is on track with his aides, while also letting the interviewer get his own questions in. There's no sell in the angle of the interview and the only person who benefits (without risk of being maligned if he leaves) is the presenter. Ron is smart enough to have a website up and running at his age and enough street smarts to self promote through other means. That's a big discrepancy between cult linguistics by convention rather than design. With one you can not leave and the other you can.
it does work for other aches. I get rid of deep structural pain by pretending to pour warm silicone down to the pain. wait 2 minutes until the silicone dries and then imagine pulling it out. The pain leaves with it. Its just applied imagination.
If you're going to tackle Joe Rogan head on you know whom your next interviewee are going to be when it comes to the Cult of Scamtology... Ofcourse it's Leah Remini I am talking about...
LRH was a dark occultist who wanted Wealth and Power. - Naval Intelligence sent Hubbard to watch Jack Parsons of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, because Parsons and his Fellow Scientists were practicing Black Magick. Parsons and Later LRH both became students of Aliester Crowley in the LA O.T.O. - Order of the Templi Orientis.
They were already in the cult homie, for like 8 yrs. Yes it's insane, but that's cult like mindset. His son joined the Sea Org-like the Marines of Scientology (more like wannabe Navy) at 16. That is nothing,I know people born into Scientology, forced to sign billion year contracts, when they were 6 or 8. They have to be more careful now,& after all the controversy, dont take as many young kids, as in 80s/90s. But it does happen. They don't allow SO members to have kids now. You either have an abortion, or get kicked out,& treated like garbage...maybe declared,& separated from all friends/family. Back when they allowed kids, how babies,& young kids were mistreated,& neglected, was stunning. While the parents are working as slaves, they rarely saw their kids. They'd put the least important person in charge of taking care of tons of kids. It could be a 12yr old watching 20 babies. Or even somebody who's a sex offender,& they are trying to "fix", by giving them "the worst job." It is a high crime to call police on a fellow Scientologist-NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID TO YOU! He was a full koolaide drinker though-even thought his son joining thatd-made him an amazing human, the elite of the elite. And they didn't know any of this bad stuff. There was no internet, when David Mischavaige joined the SO, like today. Only people joining the Sea Org today, are 2nd/3rd generation Scientologis-who have no clue about the truth of their cult. Or people from poorer countries-with less widespread internet/social media. Where it's much tougher to find out truth,about this cult,& they have rough lives...so they figure coming to America, under any circumstances, is better than their own lives. And crazy as this is, it might be-in some cases...but they get here,have their documents confiscated,& they are trapped as slaves in a strange country. But many came from bad poverty, so it doesn't seem that bad. Not true with him, but ya gotta understand how isolated,& basically in a N Koreanish prison camp these people are. Especially if they are at Gold in the SO. It's not easy to even escape,even if the mind control, allows you to want to leave. Most wouldn't leave if they could...that prison of belief.. Granted they aren't literally starving to death, or seeing tons of people killed. But otherwise it's basically a North Korean prison camp, or like being in maximum prison in America, best case. Barbed wire pointing in, guards, motion detectors, security cameras,& miles away from civilization. Not to mention local law enforcement...at best friendly to the cult,& has a conflict of interest, as they make donations to their charities, or hire officers, at ridiculous pay, for off duty security at Scientology events, ect. Worst case-they are flat out bribed off. Ive heard stories of people who escaped, called 911-& the cops BROUGHT THEM BACK! There were a few, where cops helped them get away, but it's a crapshoot. Besides, they can't call 911 from there. All outgoing calls go through a switchboard,& are monitored. And only a few extensions can dial 911, which never happens, even if somebody dies, or is about to.
I find this whole subject fascinating. I don't understand the beliefs of Scientology but I am constantly wondering what exactly is the position of these famous celebrities in the organisation? And who is next in line to David Miscavige? Who will take over when he is gone?
Ron seems like a good guy but commanding. I can see why a headstrong kid predisposed to pathological narcissism could have those traits activated within his epigenetic makeup by the conflict in personalities. Ron certainly isn't shy about using misdirects to take control of the situation or attention. David would have been primed for the likes of L. Ron.
I do the same thing with those ads that I do for MLM company ads: turn down the volume and let the ad play out for maximum payout to the channel. Go ahead, Scientology, waste your money on UA-cam ads for videos that call out your bullshit.
"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." L. Ron Hubbard
Interesting
@Romans 12 lol hahahaha 😆😆
And Ron Hubbard started his own Religion & David Miscavige assumed that he is the owner of that Religion
Power hunger & money, is the root of all evil!
Or a cult
Religion loaded with science fiction. 🤦♀️
When I found out Ron passed after this, was very disheartening. But what a pure man. His story is so touching. I'm glad he made it out of scientology a survivor.
So he appears on this CIA shill show then dies...any details
Damn! Rip to a real one.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Ron produced some awesome offspring with one Notable, but not in the height category, exception.
Awe may he rest in peace. At least he was able to enjoy the end of his life. He was very entertaining & I enjoyed how he told his story. So sad his son chose power & money over a relationship with him. I think the cookie is truly beginning to crumble though. I hope the others find a way out as well & the scientology mafia gets deflated.
Poor man. He has a lovely vibe. In this video he looks very unwell
RIP Ron Miscavige
84 and he's still sharp .... whatever he's doing is working... great interview i could listen to him all day
RON IS USING scientology the way it was meant to be used.
it’s that billion dollar contract with the church 😉
Passed away end juni 2021 i read... rip..
@@machinicassemblage no, billion years
SCIENTOLOGIST GET STRONGER THE OLDER THEY GET
I’ve got a real soft spot for Ron. What his son has said about him is a disgrace and he must be heartbroken. I just know he’s a good man....I wish him all the best❤️🙏🏻
Sadly he passed away, but at least the last few years he reconnected to his son Ron jr, and his grandkids via him.
I started researching Scientology a few years before Lisa McPherson died. They are a horrible organization, not a religion. They need to have heir tax exemption status taken away NOW.
Absolutely.
I don't understand how any church can be tax exempt.....Why?
@@davidmorris9596 Churches and the like get tax exempt because they are non profit. Nothing to tax. Scientology is trying to squeak themselves into this god and Jesus shit that doesn't apply to them because they are famously uncharitable.
@@davidmorris9596 well because generally the charity they perform is more beneficial to society than taxing them is. What i want to know is why isn't EVERYONE tax exempt 🤷♂️
Agree, how can a money making organization that demands payments for services be called a religion? It's absurd to me. I don't get why the irs isn't all over them.
Ron’s book is a great read. It’s named Ruthless. I always love listening to his interviews. The world needs to adopt his philosophy on life...help somebody, help something. Tomorrow is a new day.
He wore his respectful corduroy jacket to the interview vs your respectful t-shirt
I listened to the words they exchanged and realized he was a caring decent young man.
That’s the most boomer comment I’ve read this year.
Generational
I was NOT expecting to go down this rabbit hole today...... CANCEL THE PLANS....
Haha same
Scientology sounds like something a wanna be science fiction writer would invent ... Oh snap.
Rabbit Hole is certainly not a comfortable place but here I go down.
Right? Lol same happened to me. I'm lucky that there is a good podcast on the subject (Leah Remini and Mike Rinder's "Fair Game") or else, no joke, I would've called out of work just so I could stay with my device and continue down said rabbit hole...lol
R0n is controlled opposition ,,,,check out the Documentarys,,by Josh Reeves ,,SPELLCASTERS ,,,volume 1 and 2 ...
It's all about the CIA connection and other crazy truths ,,R0N ,,or RlmlNl ,,never mention...
"Well I'm sure the shit hit the fan"- so funny but so tragic. This man was in his 70's when he escaped Scientology, he said he only wanted to live his life in freedom he says. Living in freedom meant escaping from his own son. I can't imagine that level of fear and sadness yet exhilaration to be free. Just a whole blender full of emotions.
Very sad
84??
If that guy can use Internet, relatable analogies and remember details... Why I'm I less capable with every passing day 🤣
From what I’ve read in his book, it should be expected for him. He isn’t a detached man by any means. He talks about always looking for something more to learn and it clearly shows.
@@Wastelander1972 I'm not detached either but still have hard time following what's the new expression for whatever new word Internet decided to replace
Me too!
Ron seems like a sincere, genuine, good man. He really loves his son. He's sharp as hell at 84 years old.
Yeah he is definitely quite the character lol
One of his last interviews. He was still incredibly sharp, even though he fought cancer to the bitter end, 😢
I did the same thing he did, joined the Marines at 17 with my Mom's OK, but I never did join Scientology later. Did Pendelton for boot camp.
@@jameswulzen590 Thank you for your service James .
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Ron's story is fascinating. His music is good. I use one of his songs as a ringtone. I love to listen to him. He sure doesn't show his age. If I recall, he's about 84. I loved his book.
Ron is a musician. Musicians must have a heart and soul. I’d be willing to bet Ron’s son can’t sing or play a note. Had David Miscavige been taught to play harmonica, it would have helped his asthma, and made him a better person.
I’m glad he was able to live free in his last decade of life. RIP Ron, you were a good man, so sad
We really must protect Mr Ron Miscavige at all costs. Not even as a meme, as a reality.
Sadly, he died in August 2021, at least of natural causes. I’m glad that he and his wife escaped and were able to live some years free of Scientology.
He sounds like he is 45 years old
I know! This guy is really going strong!! Long may he wave.
That communication course must be worth taking 😂
Sounds like North Korea. Grim life. Glad you are free.
I am seventy years old. My own father, Patrick, long dead was also sucked into the pyramid scheme Holiday Magic that Ron Talks about at 12:00. I remember that experience to this day and my dad's blind enthusiasm for something that was obviously a con. He was not selling the product but rather, like Ron, recruiting the sellers. It occurred to my family in the late 60s. I was a teenager at the time, but a thinking one. (Neither of us ever became Scientologists)...
@Kaelin Jones It's over fifty years ago since I last discussed Holiday Magic with my father, who died in '99, so much so that details of this particular reckless endeavor of his is getting a little hazy. But I remember well his enthusiasm for the scheme, in the early stages at least, and how he tried to enlist the aid of many of his male friends in order to recruit the young women who would then go on to actually sell this product. I seem to recall that the product was cosmetics that had the gimmick of using fruit as flavors. I never met any of the women who were recruited to do the peddling of these items, but I believe they had to buy their supplies off the middlemen before they went out to sell them door to door. The further up the organizational pyramid you got, the more money you made. The women actually doing the real selling work made relatively little unless they were ace sellers...
Scientology has some positive lessons and undoubtedly tempted many well-intentioned individuals in need of direction and tribe but, what recruiters were and are most skilled at targeting are the narcissistic types that feel the world hasn't appreciated their greatness and potential. Despite the superficial charm Ron performs here, I'm not sure how far the apple has fallen from the tree. Even as a teen you obviously possessed enough humility to not let the appeals to your ego overpower your logic.
@@maebandy like your comment, voracious. Very insightful and eloquently written.
Sorry to hear that. Reminds me of the PT Barnum quote " every crowd has a silver lining".
@@liamhackett513 Good one, Liam. I like that line. Must remember to use it some time. Was Barnum in the same class as Mark Twain as someone eminently quotable?
I love Mr Ron! I love his blunt crude way of storytelling.
yes he swears like my dad and uncles did.makes him relatable to me.
I’ve been a Scientology watcher for years now, but the stories still never cease to amaze me. A fascinating study in the world of cults.
I'm in it with you Monica. Been researching Scientology since 1994 when Chick Corea's son tried to sell me a Dianetics book. Didn't buy one.
non biz, LOL. No problem. I’m in a state where there is absolutely no Scientology, thank God. I would hate to have to worry about them getting their hands on my children.
Completely. I've been mesmerised. It's uniquely sinister. Anyone else suspect it's actually been a social experiment?? Come on.
@@MonicaDBrini There is a Scientology organization in every state, including Puerto Rico. Even states like Wyoming have a small office. I know this because I used to work for the Church as staff.
Bradley Morrison, I’ve been here in Virginia my whole life and have never seen one or known anyone who was a Scientologist. However, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one here somewhere I guess. If there is, it must be really small.
Awww sweet Ron, so glad he is here telling his story ❤️
Omg this is great. Why doesn’t Ron get as much attention on his own channel!
you know what gps is right danny? it's a tracking device.. i love how he keeps double checking if you know technologies that everyone knows
dude is condescending and controlling amidst the wise grandpa charm, I can see the conflict in personalities would have been huge. Not Ron's fault entirely obviously but, to say they got along great is either blinded narcissism or just not really knowing/considering your kid. Part of the times I suppose.
Well right off the bat I can’t believe the interviewer DIDN’T know that Ron would know who Mike Rinder is. I was like give me a break kid. Did he do zero research on his guest and the whole Scientology subject?
@@alison2649 oh for sure, i hoped that that was just a clumsy prompt maybe?. i meant to type in my comment about the conflict being between miscavige sr and jr growing up.
Love hearing Ron speak keep up the good work sir
Just knowing Charles Mason said it was too weird for him..... Says volumes.
Lol! Did he?
GREAT INTERVIEW RON!!!!!! #1FAN
Now I see how people get hooked into Scientology. First people get hooked on self help. Then people get hooked on helping the rest of humanity. Also, Ron explained that there is truth at the beginning, then when things are introduced that are not true, people rely on their successes with the truth to keep them getting deeper. People must get to the breaking point of leaving Scientology when the oppression finally becomes so obvious it can't be denied.
I can't remember if Ron told the David asthma story on Joe Rogan. But hearing that again tells me how sad of a person David is towards his father.
I enjoy all of your interviews, but I keep coming back to this one. Ron was such an amazing person with an amazing spirit, and you were incredibly kind to him. The end always makes me cry because he truly had reached the highest levels after leaving that hateful organization, and he realized it thanks to you.
Having a sociopathic child has been a fear of mine. To hear them literally say your life isn’t worth saving would be horrific.
they are made as much as born, stay scared and read up. you've got 3 yrs not to screw them up after that its nearly set cement.
@Mr Mcfly does your family still associate with the dude after all that
Sounds like you got issues yourself. Your biggest fear as a parent is not the consequences that your shortcomings could have, but that they might tell YOU that YOU’RE insignificant. The horror!!
@@mightytaiger3000 lmao why would I want to have child who doesn’t care about their mom? In this scenario it’s under me being a good hypothetical mom. I never acted like an innocent person incapable of being a POS. You’re clearly bothered but I’m not sure quite why
He’s a sweetheart. Unfortunately, his son is not.
Thanks for letting Ron tell his entire story of how he grew up. Everything tied in nicely. He’s a great storyteller! He was a smart fascinating man.
What a good, good man. Some sage advice for how to live your life along the way
You can see in his eyes how painful the memory of dragging his entire family into this is for him. He's a talented storyteller, so I was often on the fence about some of the things he said... but that moment was absolutely genuine. 🤗
Yes I agree. I see alot of scientologist getting stick online but people must remember there brainwashed into a cult. Good people being manipulated they need support. Not hate to truly get scientology gone as an organisation requires people showing care towards the people in there to get rhem out not be against them
RIP Ron, we will miss you terribly. A rare voice of reason and sanity. Thank you.
@Abe Froman Sadly, yes. He recently passed from cancer. This is about Ron the father, not about David the son.
Incredible interview!! Can’t wait to read his book. Ron really seems like such a great game guy!
Ron is a legend... thanks for the interview ❤
Wow, 84? Amazingly healthy old man!
I love that full circle thought btw, it's like Stephen Spielberg movie 😀
People have to be right!, weather they're actually righteous or not!
Has anyone evver seen that missing wife that they have hidden ?
What a sad life for her.
Till she is dead, for now just a mystery and it fuels the exposure for this stupid scientology
I thoroughly enjoyed this youtube interview. I and many others who knew David, Ron and their sisters, wondered where the Miscavige family had disappeared to and why. They were questions of mine which dated back decades to the late 1960s. How incredible the opportunity to finally discover where they went and how life changed so profoundly for the Miscavige family. I strongly encourage Mr. Miscavige to redo this interview allowing him to go into much greater detail, illustrating locations using google maps, graphics, early photographs of his family, particularly of David. Moreover, whomever interviews Mr. Miscavige should NOT interrupt him and his train of thought. The interview should be focused exclusively upon what Mr. Miscavige has to say, rather than promoting the interviewer. Prepare and present a detailed chronology of life before, during and after the family's Willingboro years. They were also likely the happiest and most innocent years of David's life.
We r 1 min in and we r examining the fashion status of corduroy, and I love this guy
Awesome!!! This should be good.
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I got hooked into following information on the internet regarding Scientology. I saw interviews, including this one, with Ron Miscavige. I hope he lives a long, long, healthy life. He is a sincere, deeply heartfelt person. Smart. I look forward to reading his book. and visiting his website. Unbelievable what this cult has gotten away with.. I also listened to Mike Rinder and Leah Remini (From King of Queens. Who were both in Scientology from a young age and got out. What a shame that Ron's son has missed out on his beautiful father who has come "full circle".
He passed away sometime recently
His story is a script for a film. A good and riveting one. Every time he is counting his story to another interviewer I’m listening and get riveted by his story. I’m never fed up with his story. I can hear it again and again and again. He injured spiritually from his family. And the only thing he wants is to have a life without a schedule & enjoy life, which considered this is a unforgettable server crime. Unfortunately, he is saying the truth. I believe to every word he is saying because I was myself in Scientology for 30 fricking years. Just for hurting him so much, I’m wishing that this business Scientology will go in flames and we never heard of it anymore.
You’ve never heard of Khalil Gibran’s The Prophet?? Yikes.
Tax exemption doesn’t explain BILLIONS.
Human and child trafficking would explain billions ..... just a guess
@@408Magenta yes but you don’t just make billions from not paying tax man
Scientologists are mad
Damn Ron is a hell of a man! Alot of balls and alot of humility! Much respect to this man for admitting he was wrong and loves his fucked up son anyway! No shit talk, only the truth! Mike Rinder too! Congrats
wishing a peaceful rest to ron, heartbreaking to know he passed not even seeing most of his family. god keep his soul.
Jeez, sounds like prison to me. So glad Ron has at least one son who is with him.
Great to hear from Ron again! He is looking good - have my own suede jacket so digging that look! Wishing all the best to you both 😻❤😻❤
These videos are the beginning of the end of Scientology
Every few months, I somehow end up on a Scientology rabbit hole spiral. I really so see how some of the aspects of it can be helpful to people. Getting rid of all the bs, negativity, etc. Its the OTHER shit that freaks me out...LOVED Mike's podcast, he really is an inspiring person. He shows that you can overcome shit-BAD shit- and come out the otherside ok. It seems as if he's trying to make amends for his "sins" with David and the cult. Trying to REALLY help people...
Can you imagine having your son just walk away and then try to ruin you? Ron is amazing too. Being David M's dad has gotta be a bitch. David is evil. A true psychopath, it blows my mind to see his dad is so normal...id love to sit down , have a beer, and just chat. About it all. Find Ron's interview on Aussie 60 mins. Its a story about Shelley being missing...amazing.
RON MISCAVAGE IS ONE OF THE BEST SPEAKERS OF ALL GENERATIONS
lol
Ron is sharp. Maybe biden and harris should become sceintologists .
@@nonbiz1520 you mean David and Trump
Mis spoke. So sorry. Love Ron and what he’s doing!
My fiancé was UA-cam’in, I think he thought he was going on the wrong “Ron” or the wrong “Miscavige”. He’s learned to dislike Scientology through me, but he’s new to this!
Im sure that much adrenaline coursing through a 76 year olds veins couldn't have been good but here he is 8 years later.
I was a classmate of David Miscavige at Pennypacker Elementary School in Willingboro, New Jersey. Our teacher was Byron Jeffords. The curriculum we were in was experimental in that it was a non-graded, self-individualized instruction classroom setting, located in the hallway of one of four quads, adjacent to the then newly constructed school library. The class was composed of students from three grade levels. I was studying at the sixth grade level and David was studying at the fourth grade level. The experiment a mixed success of low intensity self-paced, individualized instruction. While small and slight in stature, David had a personality and voice many disproportionately large relative to his size. He was very intelligent and socially aggressive. He was more than capable of holding his own in any discussion and extraordinarily strong advocate for his ideas. No one dared argue with David. He was truly, even at that early age, a force of nature. In fact, he was one of only a hand full of students in that class I can remember. His closest friend was Paul Shelhardt. While David was at Pennypacker School, his father Ron was a Police Athletic League football coach. His brother Ron was a gifted gymnast at the Abraham Levitt Junior High School in Willingboro. I know for certain that David misses the life and friends he had in Willingboro. I would recommend a lengthy on-location interview of Ron Miscavige walking around his old residence on Peartree Lane and on the grounds of Pennypacker Elementary School. If then such a walk down memory lane in Pennypacker Park were then broadcast on youtube, I am absolutely certain David would tune in and watch. Walk the audience through the places David actually walked as a child. Bring David back via youtube to his childhood. Yes, at the time Ron moved his family our of Willingboro, then to Broomall, PA., as David indicated, students in the public schools weren't serious and didn't want to learn, they knew their rights and turned the Willingboro Public School system into a zoo. However, the answer was not to leave Willingboro for better schools, it was to transfer first to Corpus Christi Catholic School in Willingboro and then do what I eventually did, transfer from Levitt Junior Hight to Holy Cross in Delran, N.J. The parochial schools were light years ahead academically, providing an environment conducive to learning at an accelerated rate. My own adjustment from Willingboro to Holy Cross took me a full academic year to accomplish. Whereas the public school kids effectively exerted pressure t dumb down, Corpus Christi and Holy Cross where the complete opposite. The alternative education route I pursued was available to David, Ron, and his two sisters. How different your lives would have been if only you had exercised that option.
Hay thanks for sharing...
Very very interesting to hear your viewpoint!
amazing story. lots of detail
That was great to see Mr. Miscavige smile at the end of the interview when Danny cracked him up about "coming full circle". Mr. Miscavige has a tremdendous memory and is a great story teller. I can listen to him for hours. I hope one day he can reconcile with his family. Life is too short to be apart. As Ringo Starr says lets wish Mr. Miscavige and his family "Peace and Love, Peave and Love, Peace and Love".
Loved this interview.....I was on the Scientology scene for a while but this video really touched the soft spot and unfortunately I cannot yet forget my experience. Thank you both, continue as you are Danny........
His story should be turned into a movie told from his perspective. From David as a kid, to Ron leaving Scientology and readapting to life.
Great interview. Thanks. 🙏
Another great interview.
Billion year contracts are not binding. That is why they make you sign additional and very law-realistic contracts as in "I will pay the freeloaders bill", or "I will pay 5000 dollar for every instance of speaking about Xenu or outing some bad PR from the org". The lawyers behind this scam are very smart.
I wonder how he managed to buy a house after Scientology had taken all his money. Maybe his wife’s relations helped out.
I've never been so hauntingly obsessed with something. What a nightmare.
Well, it could get even wackier: have you seen interviews of former NXIVM cult members? The leader of that cult branded his followers with his initials, and I mean with an actual red hot, metal cattle brand, and they were OK with that.
He just said the cat is feral, and no you don’t know the musician he was talking about. Good interview though. 😅😅😅😅
That cracked me up too.
Claimed thought hee heard of Edgar, but went ong with knowing the song, likely to keep things moving along.
Ron seemed like a nice man. May he rest in peace.
Go Ron. Seems like such a decent guy
NOICE! Papa Ron in the house.
"You know what a gps is, right?" These moments were unintentionally humorous and it's not just because he's an old codger not sure what tech is new and what isn't, but I think this is a linguistic vestige of life immersed in Scientology with it's convoluted, misnomered lingo and ubiquitous acronyms. Aaron Smith-Levin sometimes says, "I dunno, guys, I grew up in a cult." After decades immersed in this organization people might have trouble finding a common language with the outside (what Aaron calls, 'the real') world. RIP Ron.
Bring more ex Scientologist. Bombard us with them. All the stories are quite riveting. If you do, this program always be in high prime.
For what reason was the Church of Scientology granted a cult status by tbe IRS and can't this decision be overturned in the light of its abuses ?
If you have a headache, look at yourself in the mirror and give your headache to that person.
If he had only taken a Tylenol for that headache, the world would be a different (better) place.
Or looked into a mirror and gave the headache to the person in the reflection lol
This is a Sad Situation, that No one can intervene in this Crazy State of Affairs, where people’s lives are at risk!
He still has the Scientology vernacular.
“Do you follow me?”
“Do you see what I’m saying”
“Are you with me on this?”
“Ok?”
It’s bizarre.
It's a valid frame of reference although I understand it has different connotations in Scientology. They also use similar phrases in the military when they want you to check in and see if you heard/were paying attention while they gave directions. In a non military context, I've had teachers ask those questions all the time to students.
Is there a better way to say these things that doesn't sound cultish? Maybe, but it's hard to get your lexical patterns out after you've used them for so long. The biggest difference is that he's checking to make sure the interview is on track with his aides, while also letting the interviewer get his own questions in. There's no sell in the angle of the interview and the only person who benefits (without risk of being maligned if he leaves) is the presenter. Ron is smart enough to have a website up and running at his age and enough street smarts to self promote through other means. That's a big discrepancy between cult linguistics by convention rather than design. With one you can not leave and the other you can.
Dude, I’m a st Pete local myself and just wanted to say congrats to your channel and all the success thank you!
it does work for other aches. I get rid of deep structural pain by pretending to pour warm silicone down to the pain. wait 2 minutes until the silicone dries and then imagine pulling it out. The pain leaves with it. Its just applied imagination.
Sounds like Clearwater is to Scientology, what Rome is to Catholicism, and what the state of Utah is to Mormonism.
If you're going to tackle Joe Rogan head on you know whom your next interviewee are going to be when it comes to the Cult of Scamtology...
Ofcourse it's Leah Remini I am talking about...
Great interview and very interesting stories. Thanks!
LRH was a dark occultist who wanted Wealth and Power.
- Naval Intelligence sent Hubbard to watch Jack Parsons of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, because Parsons and his Fellow Scientists were practicing Black Magick.
Parsons and Later LRH both became students of Aliester Crowley in the LA O.T.O. - Order of the Templi Orientis.
Any ideology that elevates itself above personal relationships is a sick ideology.
AWESOME!!!
He let his son drop out of school at 16 and join a cult? WTF man? He could have been a Marine, rather than a madman. No wonder the guy is nuts.
They were already in the cult homie, for like 8 yrs. Yes it's insane, but that's cult like mindset. His son joined the Sea Org-like the Marines of Scientology (more like wannabe Navy) at 16. That is nothing,I know people born into Scientology, forced to sign billion year contracts, when they were 6 or 8. They have to be more careful now,& after all the controversy, dont take as many young kids, as in 80s/90s. But it does happen. They don't allow SO members to have kids now. You either have an abortion, or get kicked out,& treated like garbage...maybe declared,& separated from all friends/family. Back when they allowed kids, how babies,& young kids were mistreated,& neglected, was stunning. While the parents are working as slaves, they rarely saw their kids. They'd put the least important person in charge of taking care of tons of kids. It could be a 12yr old watching 20 babies. Or even somebody who's a sex offender,& they are trying to "fix", by giving them "the worst job." It is a high crime to call police on a fellow Scientologist-NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID TO YOU!
He was a full koolaide drinker though-even thought his son joining thatd-made him an amazing human, the elite of the elite. And they didn't know any of this bad stuff. There was no internet, when David Mischavaige joined the SO, like today. Only people joining the Sea Org today, are 2nd/3rd generation Scientologis-who have no clue about the truth of their cult. Or people from poorer countries-with less widespread internet/social media. Where it's much tougher to find out truth,about this cult,& they have rough lives...so they figure coming to America, under any circumstances, is better than their own lives. And crazy as this is, it might be-in some cases...but they get here,have their documents confiscated,& they are trapped as slaves in a strange country. But many came from bad poverty, so it doesn't seem that bad. Not true with him, but ya gotta understand how isolated,& basically in a N Koreanish prison camp these people are. Especially if they are at Gold in the SO. It's not easy to even escape,even if the mind control, allows you to want to leave. Most wouldn't leave if they could...that prison of belief..
Granted they aren't literally starving to death, or seeing tons of people killed. But otherwise it's basically a North Korean prison camp, or like being in maximum prison in America, best case. Barbed wire pointing in, guards, motion detectors, security cameras,& miles away from civilization. Not to mention local law enforcement...at best friendly to the cult,& has a conflict of interest, as they make donations to their charities, or hire officers, at ridiculous pay, for off duty security at Scientology events, ect. Worst case-they are flat out bribed off.
Ive heard stories of people who escaped, called 911-& the cops BROUGHT THEM BACK! There were a few, where cops helped them get away, but it's a crapshoot. Besides, they can't call 911 from there. All outgoing calls go through a switchboard,& are monitored. And only a few extensions can dial 911, which never happens, even if somebody dies, or is about to.
@@jasonsmith5226 I’m sorry but your English is very difficult to understand. My point was that this man was a Marine.
It´s like listening to grampa simpson
I wonder if any letters have been sent to Danny from scientology?
Wow, this is awesome, excited to listen
If you have any problems with ANYONE from Scientology please reach out to me and we will take care of the problem.
I really liked Ron Miscavige. It was sad that he died.
Amazing opportunity to talk to this man!
I’d be interested to know what he has to say about Shelly missing. Very good interview!
they talk about clearing the planet and they haven't cleared a cul de sac yet! Classic!!!
What a great father I wish he was mine. Shame the arseholes get the
Great fathers.
I find this whole subject fascinating. I don't understand the beliefs of Scientology but I am constantly wondering what exactly is the position of these famous celebrities in the organisation? And who is next in line to David Miscavige? Who will take over when he is gone?
I'm gunna be a noob for once.
First ! O m g.... ha
Now if you can just get Matt Cox back on , guy is fascinating.
Keep up the good work 👍
He's got his own channel, check it out.
Whiskey Sour beat me to it, Matt Cox has his own channel now, called Inside True Crime 👍🏻
Ron seems like a good guy but commanding. I can see why a headstrong kid predisposed to pathological narcissism could have those traits activated within his epigenetic makeup by the conflict in personalities. Ron certainly isn't shy about using misdirects to take control of the situation or attention. David would have been primed for the likes of L. Ron.
lol Freedom Media & Ethics is buying ad space on this video and playing attack ads for Ron Miscavige
Freedom Media & Ethics aka the Church of Scientology
@@TXTeacher1111 Exactly
I do the same thing with those ads that I do for MLM company ads: turn down the volume and let the ad play out for maximum payout to the channel. Go ahead, Scientology, waste your money on UA-cam ads for videos that call out your bullshit.
They are truly pathetic ngl
The full circle. Well said Danny
The cold shower. What a father! He took the cold water too!!!!! 💙💙💙
Sorry to say, but it is almost impossible that David M will suddenly decide to snap out of it and become a decent human being.