Volantex Phoenix 2400 - antenna tracker and a Split Mini 2 on the tail
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2019
- Phoenix 2400 PNP version: goo.gl/GJaiaE
RunCam Split Mini 2: www.banggood.com/RunCam-Split...
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A quick update on the Phoenix 2400! Added the TeleFlyPro OSD module for the MFD antenna tracker, which should greatly expand its FPV usability now! Also, took the time to replace the RunCam Micro Swift camera with a Split Mini 2 one... narrowing down my FPV view of the plane to 140 degrees... but also providing me with a Full HD recording from the vertical stabilizer of the plane, and oh boy what a joy that is!
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Very impressed by the construction. Astounding the wings didn't rip off.
Exactly what I was thinking during the flight! :D Was waiting for that to happen at every moment... but it never did...
Happy and successful flying to you as well! Cheers 🍻 can't wait to see the finished ground station!
Thanks! You and me both mate... really want to finish it before the summer... just have to find the time!
I know it will be amazing so no rush and best of luck in the time department 😉 cheers 🍻
Thanks mate, right back at you! :)
Just living vicariously through you, wish I could fly like that here!
Same!!!
Well... I am glad I can help! :P
Me as well. Have a farm but rarely get out there anymore. Saddens me that I’ll probably be leaving this hobby because of lack of places to actually fly.
Damn! Yeah... it is a shame how they are killing it because of unrealistic concerns... it is absolutely ridiculous!
ArxangelRC that it is! I used to fly at a old un-used local park that only dog walkers used but this past year they decided they aren’t letting any RC usage in the park including RC trucks ,cars ,boats , planes and definitely not drones! I suspect it was because the dogs Walkers complained just enough to get this pushed.
I no just about every time I went to this park I’d have at least 2 dog walkers walk up to me and actually tell me to stop flying because I was upsetting there precious dog! I mostly ignore these people which in turn made things worse. I tried talking to them calmly before only to find that they where to ignorant to understand anything so I just told myself when they approach me again I’ll just say I’m busy and please leave me alone but as I stated that just makes things worse in the end because they start acting like children and stomping their feet to get there way which they did in the end.
Nice flying, those wings looked like they was about to flap off 5 minutes in!
A lot of the time they looked like that.. the day was quite windy and turbulent... and yet... they survived... I am happy! :)
Fantastic video! Thanks for the great content :)
Thank you! :) Appreciate it!
Like a boss! Great content!
Thanks! :)
Finally a 2.4m ornithopter :D
Hahahaha... indeed! :D
Thnx for your reply.i hope i can get the timing good with the first esc. I dont have a program card. But now i know what the problem is.cheers René
I hope you can figure it out! Best of luck! :)
i have a update on my problem. today i try a other esc littlebee 30a and everything is fine. i did calibrate the first one and it was working good in Betaflight .will try later to calibrate again and plug it back. the first one was a new one .hope it can help other people.happy flying
Glad to know you figured it out! I did reply do your question in the blog! :)
This is amazing!!
Sure is!
Nice video! Of have freaked out to see my wings do that up there haha :)
Hahahaha... I did feel a little nervous during the flight myself... kept imagining a wing snapping off and taking the tail with it in the process! :) At least I would know the plane wouldn't be too far off from the last recorded coordinates! :)
amazing bro
Thank you! :)
Humm you are making me feel like I need this setup
Hahahaha... it is a nice plane Gary... and the Omnibus makes it even better! :)
@@ArxangelRC I really like that tail cam view, that is what has sold me. Gliders have always been my favourite way of RC flying. That view is what my 10 year old self was imagining when flying free flight gliders off a tow line.
Yeah, I hear that! That view is absolutely addictive! Doesn't work as easily on V-tail planes though! :D
Nice one
Thanks! :)
Sweet! One of your more exciting flights I sure! 😉 Agree that RunCam needs to come out with a 4K version of their Split series - hopefully sooner than later. It looks like you have a second RunCam on the nose - do you toggle between the two during flight? BTW, I looked into flashing my Matek F722 with ArduPilot but so far the builds are limited to Matek's F4 boards 😥
Yeah, the builds do not support everything out there... but I hope soon! As for the RunCam... truth be told... that cameras is up there only for weight, it is not operational! I just need extra weight in the nose to balance the plane! Not a fan of looking at a spinning prop throughout the whole flight!
@@ArxangelRC Ballast! Ha! I love that 😅 Yeah, I don't blame you. Besides, that view from the tail is pretty darned cool 😎
Yup... tail view is addictive... would have to consider it on most new builds... problem is... if the plane doesn't have a motor at the front... it becomes a problem to balance that out!
@@ArxangelRC Bigger battery! 😅
Hahahaha... well... I do like to keep plane weights reasonable! :)
Very Nice. Hello I come from the quadcopters and betaflight. But I would love to start with airplanes and waypoints so I started to read how I could start with mission planner. honestly I have already made a z84 wing with a mini apm in it. She has flown exactly 3x well and even 1x with waypoints but after a crash I never managed to get it right. I have gone the same way as you with my ranger 2000 that I have now. everything exactly wired the same. till the arming everything went well. The motor did not want arm first. But after a lot of reading and youtube I found out how to get it done. The problem I still have is that I am about half of my throttle and above the motor starts to stutter. Before half throttle there is no problem at all. I thought the esc is broken. but have it calibrated and tried throw betaflight and works well there. I am afraid that it is a parameter but I know here just a little too little to find out which it could be. It would be nice if you can help me in the right direction. or maybe send a .param file so that I can compare it on a spare board. I do not know how to proceed. but would love to start flying. I have also bought a micro sky hunter to also fly these with autopilot. All help would be welcome .best regards Rene
Replied to you in the blog! :)
When I'm ready to do fpv hope u can give advice...love ur video thumps up
Will help if I can! :) Thank you!
Yo... In case you want to increase your descent rate without having to dive the aircraft and increase the speed you can look into programming the ailerons to perform a "butterfly" by pointing the flaps down and the ailerons up by the same amount. Let's say 10 Deg. As you have 4 servos on your wings this should be doable. It will increase the drag and lower the lift of the wing while maintaining the operation of the control surface to control roll. If you have a programmable remote control maybe there is already preset for this. It will act similar to a air-brake.
Hmmmm... and interesting idea... might give it a try at some point... but I usually don't fly in such conditions! :) Besides, testing the durability of the plane in such conditions and at high speed... is pretty valuable! :)
Thanks for sharing!
Do you recommend it for fpv? There seems not to be much space inside the fuselage.
Efficiency probably should be similar to Mini-Talon.
I have no idea what the efficiency is compared to the Mini Talon, because I don't have a mini talon, and I've not played with this one long enough to keep an eye on that metric, but it is pretty nice for FPV, especially with the camera on the tail! Also, I am flying it on a measly 4S2P LiIon pack... and it can fly for quite a while... and it is pretty streamlined as far as body shape goes... so it should be pretty efficient!
@@ArxangelRC Many thanks for the information! Really seems to be a good choice for LR FPV. It probably can carry 4s4p easily as well. Limitation may be the physical space inside the fuselage...
@@ATCATL Yup! If you can remove the wheel and push the battery back it should be able to carry it with no issues! Those wings are huge and have a large carrying capacity!
Great production, thank you so much. Can you please describe the full equipment list : Transmitter, receiver, specific GPS unit, Auto pilot unit and data transmitter. I would like to monitor those parameter, exactly the way you do. Thank you in advance...have a nice day !
Ok i checked your other video...i have information now, thank you !
@@paulgervais1920 Haha, glad you found it! Best of luck to you!
Wish the Runcam Splits would have longer Sensor to PCB cables too. The original Split and Split2 had an optional longer cable, but they stopped that. Would prefer to not have to have the PCB taped to the tail like you had to do. I have a tail camera on one of my planes but would love to get the video in HD also.
Yeah... longer cables would be awesome, but I guess they are more fragile then... :)
Nice video man, what do you think about the Skylark antenna tracker, I have one but i can't maket work
Thanks! Yeah... that seems to be a common theme with these antenna trackers that try to copy the MFD one... they just don't work most of the time! I haven't heard much about it, except for a few people with similar experience to yours! Hearing such stories is why I have never regretted a cent spent on the MFD tracker... has been working flawlessly ever since I got it... years now!
@@ArxangelRC have you ever tested a pixhawk antenna tracker
I have... lots of issues... lots of tests and tries and programming... wasn't worth it! Adds just another layer of complexity because you do have to run the telemetry as well... with the MFD tracker I am using now... I utilize the existing FPV system the plane already has! :)
Lost the L9R link at only 5kms..?...Do you have the antennas inside the Fuz..?...Loved the rear view, its not a bad position to pilot from either....Sounds like the sensor isnt flat on the board....OR...the 2 lenses are not square to each other...My money is on the lenses.
Yeah, the antennas are inside the fuse, and only 1 is vertical... and they are running between the servo cables for the tail and the power cables for the camera! I am guessing it might have an effect! :) Will contact RunCam about the camera... lets see what comes out of it!
Yeah, poor antennas, Im sure you can correct that pretty easy....Why dont you try substituting a different lense...?...Not sure why they dont offer proper glass lenses for these Cameras TBH.
Might be more expensive... and over there they are counting pennies! :P I will install an R9MM receiver in this one, and mount the antenna in a better spot... should give me better range for sure! :)
How many amps do you need to pull to fly this plane in a constant flyable speed(and wich speed would that be)?
Couldnt see it because you didnt show a lot of osd.
I can't say I remember, been a while, but should be around the 4-5A mark on 4S. As for speed could have been 50-60km/h, since these wings are massive and they don't like to speed up too much.
@@ArxangelRC thanks that helped me
@@trumblez I am glad, best of luck to you! 🙂
Is this glider was equiped with go home option?
Yes, it is!
Nice😊
Thanks!
Does this FC support the RTH mode?
Yes, all ArduPilot firmwares do support that!
I like my Phoenix 2000 with head tracker.
Could be... problem is I've never been much of a fan of those head tracking systems!
ArxangelRC my issue is getting HD recording at same time. But with all these new runcams it should be a doddle
Hmmmm.... there are some larger setups that also have a spot for an HD camera... but the Split is a much more elegant solution... just need to mind the lens cable! :)
ArxangelRC yeah I hear the lens cables can wear out
Yup... could become problematic at some point!
Nice fly, though little Phoenix wings.. 😁
Thanks! ... little...?
I need a ranger 2400 fix before mine comes in hopefully un-damaged.
Hahahaha... will try to move it along quicker! :)
Which GPS are you using with the teleflypro?
This one: goo.gl/dAh6va
@@ArxangelRC Thank you, that is cheap!
Yeah, and works well too! :)
I paint my planes with a brush on black acrylic paint that flakes off at all stress points. I would love to see what it would look like with the wings flapping like that.
Hahahahahaha... it would get a seriously weathered look! :)
Good
Thanks!
May i ask about the total flying weight please?
Can't say I recall exactly! :( Was over 2kg I think, but by how much I can't say for sure.
Love that view. Thank You man. Do you have instagram ???
Thanks! Actually... I do not! :)
is this plane can occupy 5000mah 4s lipo?
Hmmmm... tough job! Perhaps if you remove the plywood battery plane and mount it on the floor of the fuselage it might fit!
@@ArxangelRC thx for the reply, want to make this plane as long range but i just only have 4s lipo ex arwing and caipi 2. What battery did u use for fvp and how long the flight time ?
On the Phoenix I am using a 4S2P LiIon battery, but have yet to actually test the full endurance of the plane with that battery! :) Over an hour for sure on a 6000mAh 4S pack!
thats very high speed your glider can do
Yeah... at some point I saw speeds of up to 130km/h!
It's not all about the camera resolution (although more is better ;-) ) and the colors of the split mini are far from something like a gopro.
Perhaps it's possible to get a lot more out of it in post production.
Yeah, perhaps going to post would make it better... or touching the settings first! Mine are factory defaults still!
What size battery did you use
4S2P 6000mAh LiIon.
I have an 850 KV motor, what size prop do you recommend I use with it for the Phoenix 2400
I have ordered a 12x8 prop for mine... should work quite well! Would be willing to try 12x10 also, if I can find one! :)
Where did you order it from
HobbyKing!
So... Did i understand you well? Was your problem not being able to descend because of the wind? Wow thats crazy. Can`t you just point the plan straight down? Mayby too much speed if you do that
Yeah, that was the issue... I had to get out of the rotor in order to be able to get down! I would put it in manual mode and point it down... but didn't want to stress the plane more than it already was... plus... I feel more comfortable with the autopilot actively stabilizing it in such conditions! :)
Get bored > turned the radio off
Seems legit 😁
Hahahaha... since I don't have RTH on a switch, turning the radio off is the only way I can get the plane into RTH mode! I switched it back on after it engaged. :)
you must have so many planes, how about a giveaway for one of them?
Well... problem with that is... I tend to throw away the boxes... and they are rarely in good condition when I am done with them... and the shipping cost alone from Bulgaria would be about as much as buying it brand new from China... :S I would have to keep the giveaway confined to EU countries only for any chance of decent shipping... and besides... I am not sure I want subscribers that are only waiting for giveaways... rather than content... :P I could be wrong though! :)
I'm only jealous of all your planes :-)
I'm definitely here for the content, hence why I'm a subscriber.
I guess doing giveaways would be too much extra work, especially if you've already thrown the boxes away.
Don't worry, I'll keep watching lol
I will see if I can figure something out.... Eachine have offered me to do a giveaway for for likes of their new FB page... not sure I like this idea... but if you guys want a giveaway... might consider it! :) Besides... lots of planes becomes tedious at times... trust me... sometimes I wish I could only have 2-3 planes at most and concentrate on them only! :D
@@ArxangelRC How about electronics? Flight controllers, VTXs and so on. I'm sure you won't need large boxes and expensive shipping for those, and I'm sure you have LOTS of unused items all around the place... could be easier for you than shipping whole planes
Thing is... I only replace those when something breaks... I have so many planes fully equipped at the same time... that I rarely have spare gear available... other than in the "broken bits" bin! :D My Clouds, for instance, is still running a Micro APM and I am not touching it just because it is working and I have no issues with it! But that FC is ancient compared to what is available right now! But it is working, and it is working well!
Take a breath
Pffff... breathing is a waste of time! ;)