Sir Richard Ottaway - Britain Does Not Owe Reparations
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The motion: This house believes Britain owes reparations to her former colonies.
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Shashi Taroor ripped him a new one.
Shashi Tharoor......another Indian Charlatan.......too bad once the British left India went into complete mess....2 million deaths per year from Air Pollution...
I am an Indian.. I don't hate Britishers but after listening to his speech , his way of talking and pointing fingers shows his lack of intelligence and pompous nature.
They say “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument. " Well, he really needs to learn this.
@Soloman1001 Lol.. Seems like you have .
“Until the Lion Learns How to Write, Every Story will Glorify the Hunter”
Thick orange cvnt ?
Be better at War fighting -shxthouse.
You should try to learn more about history... And you need to put that phrase in the house of governments in Africa, Asia, South America... Western countries already have this concept... Still we have to remember them once in a while...
@vaniaandrade9671 tell me again about the Barbary slave trade .. Oh, and it still get fcked.
Ps I've lived in your head rent free for 31 days -mug 😅
Africans had 4000 years of slavery, long before the UK existed.
British queen as the head of state for India? What a joker ?
"Oh no we died too invading your countries "
@@HeardItOnTheX says the guy who still has a monarchy after all these years.
@@ohhi6313 And will continue to so you can cope.
@@brittanyhayes1043 I wonder if you would have said that if another country had looted and pillaged, murdered, tortured, maimed and enslaved people from your country?
@@ohhi6313 Probably. Its in the past. She did not fo anying Colonial during her reign. You either forgive her and move on or don't and seeth. Let go!
@@ohhi6313 Long live the British Monarchy.
India has the Queen has their head of State? Wow Genius.
So long as India stays in the Commonwealth it does recognize.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv There is a difference between the commonwealth and the commonwealth realm.
India is not a part of the commonwealth realm and this has been made very much clear by our country in 1950 when we made our own constitution and became a republic.
Take your propaganda and die with it. Don't pretend to be an Indian.
@@DipakBose-bq1vvMisinformation. Not a single page of the Constitution of India says that the Queen is the head of state.
Look how he got pissed off when Dr. Tharoor corrected him. Arrogant.
Empty vessels you know.
Go back to India......a sh*thole...
It clearly shows Brits have no remorse for what they have done.
Shouldn't judge based on one mans view
Of course it does, the vast majority of the audiance are British and they strongly disagree with the speaker.
No we do not, I haven’t done anything to anyone alive today. Or to ancestors!
@@573gwills3Your people support it
Nigeria does NOT recognise the Queen as the head of state
Nor does India. The Brits are living in their day-dreams.
@@abhishekmukherjee2891 fr fr
@@abhishekmukherjee2891 we don't care
nobody in Britain cares
@@connorjames6226 then pay reparations and shut up
Pompous hollowness personified :)
Not an argument
Counter his points rather than vapidly emoting.
@@archiebunker4108 His points were routinely countered. Sir Richard hardly provided any rebuttals!
Japan paid the reparations to the countries Japan occupied. So can UK.
@treadmildashx Britain didn't even do that. That's the point!
I get that but how? they are no longer the empire. And they would need multiple britains to pay now just to pakistan, let alone my country of India.
@@samarthmisra6064 at least they should apologize and admit their sins
@@meghamala1993 that i agree with.
@@L8Pl first of all, your ancestors left us in a very worse state, secondly your people feel proud of your history (which you have to be ashamed), and as he said most of the top 10 rich persons are from colonies, you wouldn't have them if you sent them to their countries. Keep enjoying our money.
This person mentions India as one of the countries which considers the British crown as the head of the state. I doubt that. It is the President here.
yes but the queen is still a symbolic head of state.
@Vishnu vs I refuse to accept the bullshit you have said towards the end of your reply. You have no idea of how hard the royal family and the queen work to support the commonwealth countries
@@theisheep2676 supporting through a few million dollars after looted 45+ trillion dollars. If she hadn't looted in the first place then she wouldn't have need to work hard in the first place. I would like to point out that even that hard work in nothing infornt of what she did.
@@kamalkumar7978 First of all it wasn’t her who looted. It was the nation and queen Victoria was the queen back then. Also India is a rapidly developing country and in a couple decades it will be very rich and have a big economy. There’s no need to have disdain because of things that happened in the past. The Mughals were much worse than the British
@@theisheep2676 they both have done some bad things. Why are you even using mughals to defend brits ? Those things happened in the past doesn't mean that the descents shouldn't acknowledge their own real history. And, by the way, it is the descents who are enjoying the luxuries that their ancestors gave to them by looting us. So, you ARE a part of it.
This was torture on the ears
No it wasn't
@@robertisham5279 yes it was
@@justabhishek1462 because
@@justabhishek1462 No, it really wasn't, you ain't getting an apology or Money from Britain so you better suck it up and get on with it.
Cope
How did this guy get a knighthood?
Other Pill because he is a massive cunt
Knighthood is an illusion - that’s how.
Because these awards are biased
Must have sucked something
simple by kissing the feet of the monarchy
So basically british taught us english for 200 years and took fees of 45 trillion pounds as fees 😂😂
@Chandler Bing ik it was just a joke lol
Bro Indians know English because of America we follow them slot and there movies so that's why
45 trillion pounds is not a scientific consensus. How can a nation that looted 45 trillion be worth only 2 trillion 100 years later?
@@abelpeter9658 inflation nd war spendin (ww1,ww2)
@@karshanbhaihumbal9164 wrong
The only reason he can't allow too many interventions is because they would flood him by pointing out the factual inaccuracies he builds his arguments on.
True
Just ask first of why did British came to India and Indian never asked them to come.
Bla bla bla. Deal with your own sense of inferiority
@CHRISTIAN KNIGHT yup. you stopped caring for repercussions. that's why you are suffering now. Most Indians have taken jobs from lower level to top tier jobs in UK. they have flooded your universities. While many UK students are going out painting walls with phallic symbols.
What we are doing is also a kind of invasion.But you can't oppose this with your "legacy" called democratic process. Good luck for not caring. in 100 years we will own you. There are Indians in Britain who are wealthier than 70% of British population. only 30% left to conquer. Keep it up. don't care. Indians are the curse you unleashed upon yourself.
@CHRISTIAN KNIGHT of course, you won't care because you're the descendants of the same people who colonized us ( you should feel ashamed for that ). Just go to you mum or dad and start crying in their lap with saying that your Grandfather and Great Grandfather must've been very bad and evil people.😂😂😂
No one needs reparations ,just return that so proud jewel in the crown of your queen.That doesnt belong to you,it was a theft .
We want it back. Symbolic ,aint it??
No they owe money that why there rich and other countries are ooor
He is defending a system and him-self because he is a part of that system.
The speaker is (deliberately?) confusing between Commonwealth of Nations which has 53 member states and Commonwealth realms who accept Queen as Monarch which are 16
akshay rathore Seriously! I HAD sign in JUST to comment "Is this guy talking out of his ass?" as SOON as I heard that! If I was drinking a beverage, I'd have spit it out! INDIA considering Queen Dicktoria as head of state? Seriously?
akshay rathore I scrolled down exactly to say this, but then Shashi Tharoor.
+akshay rathore And also is confusing Britain the country, aka the it's people, and Britain the empire, with the opulent few, the elite, which has first subjugated it's own citizens, then moved on as an empire to subjugate others. Brits should not feel offended, nor guilty for something that they themselves did not commit. They should feel sympathy, realize they themselves are getting shafted as well and seek allegiance with the former slaves, with whom they share the common goal of a better life, free from this exploitation.
TechnocraticBushman that is a bit more subtle criticism. In a parliamentary democracy each citizen feels(and rightly so,) responsible for action of their govt. So instead of understanding they get offended when their govt is criticised.
akshay rathore I was aiming for diplomacy.
If l shamelessly lie anymore, my mother warned she will start calling me "Sir Richard Ottaway"
I don't think he actually believes in what he says. Wonder how this old fellow can sleep at night being so disingenuous.
And if he is bigoted enough to genuinely believe what he says, i will take solace in the fact that the bulk of his time on this planet is already done.
This comment is so wholesome.
this is genuinely the best comment i've ever read on youtube ever
@@samcousins3204 SAM YO
@@WrenCubes yOOO
the no of dislikes itself tells what his thought is....
Oh my God. This was NOT the guy to allow on opposition. Is he for real? Is there a time machine we can use to ship him back to 1850? If I was Lee I'd have considered tackling his elitist ass before he flung any more mud on my face.
His demeanour,tonality & body language when he talks about the subject is high handed, pompous & snobbish. He actually references a comment of King Lobengula of Matabele (looked up wiki, they were a tribe in Zimbabwe) & glorifies the 'humility' of the comment of being 'lice at the edge of the majesty's blanket'. The irrereverant, dismissive tone as he quotes that 'loyal address' is so enraging. The way he denies people objecting to his grossly propagandist comments by simply muttering 'I wont' is almost the perfect example of how colonisation ruled with almost complete totalitarianism.
It's a formal debate he can do that. I do agree he needed to sound more empathetic with a softer tone while saying that.
Well yeah, that is the typical colonizer.
@@riaa8689 If it wasn't for the colonisers, where would you lot have been now, eh? Middle-Ages level.
@@kennythelenny6819 Empathetic, because? What's there to empathise with? The idiocy and ignorance of his opponents, both formal and among the 'students' in the room?
@@AA-yc8yr We would be more advanced if it wasn't for colonizers.
SHASHI THAROOR speaks Up 5:40 🔥
@Jay Jungle we will nuke britain one day....
@Jay Jungle we have nukes, and people starving because of bloody Britain, I think india will Comeback in next 20 years and teach britain a lesson
@Jay Jungle our defence budget is 4rth largest in the world and china also think twice before beef with us, and we also handle Pakistan and britain is a small week country, no future, india is the future,
@Jay Jungle Time will come and india will regain it's position it was for centuries, yes we are struggling but nature gives us everything, from unlimited fertile lands to endless source of waters, can britain feed 1.4 B people I guess no,Now indians getting educated and begins to realise too much population killing us, Indias population will decline, and then indian and chinese people will be the richest, maybe it will take another 50 years,
@@lfc_tushar Fam…calm down…nobody is nuking anybody. We’re not gonna need to teach anyone anything…
Edit: Chill out fam.
I agree it is unfair to ask the current generation to pay from their taxes, but they seem to be enjoying the fruits of the loot. The rich list in Britain is reduced to just four Indians ? Remember, all of India was rich in wealth, resources and richer in culture. If the British-Indians are on the rich list, does it make up for the suffering caused from colonialism.
+Boltonpictures Just to clarify he said that out of the top of seven richest people in Britain 4 were from the colonies... and i agree it doesn't make up for the suffering caused.
How can say it was richer? If someone said that the other way it would be racist
@@alexnielsen8888 Oh it was way richer than your precious words pal...You are anyday welcome to the Archeological Department of Bharath.a.k.a India of you want the Quantum of Resources looted list including Centenerries that can surely clarify you in how damn resourceful we once were before the Invasion and Imperialism.
@kosmic . You can dissent yes.But kindly ensure factually accurate reason to support your Narrative.
@kosmic . Your above comment said "Absolutely Not".Can you explain to me why you denying that India was Rich and had Global Trade Contribution upto 25% till British Colonialism started and the. Declined to Below 2%?
How were you even invited to the debate with that level of understanding
The way he says that the british had not invaded 22 countries makes me want to really make him vanish of the planets face
this one is waste of my time ..thoroughly enjoyed great mr Taroors Speech..
5:40 The trailer of the upcoming Boss Fight
Lol
Right! 😂 And, then he literally destroyed the opposition.
“Ancient Greece may have presided over the birth of democracy but Britain has spread it far and wide” I’m sorry how did Britain do that? By invasion and colonialism?
And it was spread to them by Roman invasion. I neither see British Thanking Italians nor Italians taking pride is spreading Christianity and democratic idea to them.
This is whom we call Egotistical maniacs.
Cheer up, you could have got the Germans and Hitler as colonists.
Mr Tharoor destroys him
This gentlemen doesn’t have the basic political knowledge that the president of India is the head of state not the queen of england (unlike Australia or Canada). He doesn’t have the slightest idea how offensive it is to Indians to suggest that a foreign monarch is the head of their country but somehow is supposed to be addressed as “sir”
whats the point of the Indian president? they have no power. Replace them with Charles III
Then how can you call him a gentleman , He's cunning thug who tries to protect their last piece of cheese
5:38 , 7:00You could actually tell what kind of speech he's given when the only applauds throughout his speech were on the corrections done by Shashi Tharoor and that other guy.
Hey man! Stop asking questions and just pay up!
His last point about not judging historical events by the 'prism of today's values' is right to some extent. However, if one family has gained wealth, power and prestige by the death and suffering of members of another family who are - largely - less well off than they were before. Then it is natural for the agrieved family and thier descendants to say "Look... UK's GDP is $43,000 but Malawi's is $354."
It's natural to feel reparations need to be paid.
@@PiyushMishra-vg7ks *GDP per capita is the measure aarandir was referring to.*
im pretty sure it has nothing to do with colanization. Bet their GDP will be even lower if britain didn't colonize them
@@vseslavkazakov356 how old are you? Not interested in history it seems.
That's utter horseshit. Britain and much of Europe from London to Moscow was in ruins in 1945. Cities destroyed, economies devastated, industries lost. Britain and the rest of Europe as you see today was rebuilt after ww2.
Would Malawian gdp be better if the British didn't show up? Somehow me thinks not
1) "Colonial period was a phase in world development" is like saying "The rape was a phase in a person's sexual development".
2) "Administrations invested heavily in physical infrastructure, health projects, develop markets" is the equivalent of "Grooming".
Singapore was colonised, Canada was colonised, Australia was colonised, and America was colonised. How are they doing now?
And... Do you think rape is not a stage of someone's sexual development? Also, rape happens to A PERSON, in THEIR ONE LIFETIME. The difference here is that the human world now has taken centuries, millennias to form. And we are here because of everything that happened in the past. Obviously, including colonisation. Do you disagree with that?
@@James-hv5jhare you really comparing settler colonies to slave colony. Lol canada and america genocided natives and banned non wjite immigtants
His most of facts r incorrect.. The old fella must start reading some stuff now..
Not there not
Dr. Tharoor dominated this man.
its easy when you can just play the victim card - both men obviously love their country.
@@connorjames6226 your forefathers were looters, try now, racist
"The wealthiest countries are helping the poorest" Why are they the wealthiest I wonder... 🤔
By winning , you know when a superior culture conquers and inferior one. So goes the history of the world. I can draw you a diagram if you like ?
@@malusdarkblade1139 Please keep your diagram, thank you. I think we differ on how we define the term "superior culture".
@@anthonyteis8570 the one that wins is superior , it's that simple.
@@malusdarkblade1139 wins what exactly?
@@malusdarkblade1139 I believe the subject of superiority/inferiority with respect to warfare has more subtle yet significant intricacies. It would be illogical to assume one group of persons superior to another simply based upon an arbitrary string of events which may have played out differently had the minor intricacies not been at play during said singular event.
Well! Let me steal 90% of the money and possession you own and then give it back to you only 0.1% of it as an aid for being poor. If this is not injustice then i don't know how legitimate the justice system in UK is. After hearing his arguments, i am even questioning the legitimacy of the title"Sir".
It would alright if it was only in colonization time but they are still stealing .
@@howtotieatie5845 yeah china is stealing from the 3rd world
INDIA - "recognizes the queen as the head of state"
Hahahahahahah TOP KEK
So long as India stays in the Commonwealth it does recognize.
If you live in Croydon South, and voted Conservative, I would be surprised if you appreciated the specific candidate you were voting for. Bloody hell.
What about the Crown Jewels?! Why does Britain refuse to give them back!
+nanaskin6 Because it's ours now, numbnuts.
+Benyamin Il'Aflehki by what logic?
How daft. Is it in England, or is it in India?
Special brownie points if you can work out the answer by yourself.
+Benyamin Il'Aflehki that doesn't explain why Britain refuses to give back stolen goods. that's what needs an explanation!
Do you seriously believe minerals that took millions of years to form have a "rightful" owner?
If you're too weak to keep it, then you clearly don't deserve it. Stay mad, subhumans.
Never mess with tharoor, he is ❤
@@IrelandAbu It was because British soldiers are included I. Those deaths.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
This is A small demo how colonial would looks like before you go for Shashi Tharoor's speech.
A colonial yano. What a bigot you are.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
Did he actually raise and argument against reparation? It was so weak 😂😭🤣. It was such because Britain does not have a solid argument against it because there is no way one can justify taking what was not yours that set a platform for ones continued growth to the detriment of those one oppressed. Their big argument is that they 'civilized' us to European standards.
Civilized us by making richest country to the poorest , literacy rate of 17 %, growth rate of 0.001 % for more than 200 years. Stolen all the artifacts and then flaunting them to the British museum, These people are such rude and arrogant despite they know everything they have done everything brutally and destroyed the countries they are not apologistic . Even Canada and Germans other western countries are polite than these.
Your country has taken things that weren't yours.
But then Britain stole like 15 countries
Tharoor sir destroyed his idea of Indian-aid
The ''people who had no hand in the events paying money to people who did not suffer from them'' point is quite a strong argument in my view. A separate issue is the government making an official state apology in regards to any specific documented and widely acknowledged atrocity, that seems reasonable to me.
What's sad is countries like England and America call themselves Catholic Christians Muslims. Blame your ancestors for not doing the right thing and leaving the debt sins of the father these people don't fear God they love money more than doing the right thing the camel is going thru the eye of a needle right now
read the history its not too long 75 years...my grandmother was not born free...do you have any idea what kind of effect that has on generations? Not to mention our industrialization was deliberatly beaten down in 18th century and turned to slave economy. Indians were generationally wealthy like white people are known to be today, and now indians are generationally poor. See what Im saying? Our grandparents had to sell everything just to keep up with taxes for 200 years and thats why colonisers and their descendants almost all of you directly benefitted from us. You may be innocent but the privilege you take for granted is measured in the livelihood of millions of indians and their insecure future. That's why its horrible you all arent taught the reality of UK and colonisation through trade. it was the worst.
By that logic they should not World War 2 preparations up into the 21st century. Also colonialism was only ended in the nineties
If grand father was looted and next two generations starved, and uneducated etc in my mind there should be repetitions to the survivors,
Are the descendants not benefactors of the evils of their ancestors? How are you going to receive the benefits of such evils but claim you are also not responsible to giving back what was stolen? If I steal from you and hand those things down to my son, stop acting like you wouldn't talk to the son about getting your things back when the parent is long gone. The UK may not owe reparations for slavery, but they definitely owe for what they after it. The ongoing discrimination didn't just go away because slavery was abolished.
"unnecessary to do so"? Are you kidding me? Reparations is the least that can be done, you cannot even imagine the moral debt obligation of colonisation. Reparations is the least.
+vinita manek I agree with you that they owe us a moral debt... but how will the debt be paid?? money seems paltry when compared to the atrocities committed by the British...
+vinita manek then can we claim reparations from the Vikings, Romans etc
Money is a mere way to put the Indians out of the misery. The money can be used in unimaginable ways to better the life of people in India. It is not the only solution but it's a start.
+vinita manek Britain has provided billions in foreign aid as it is to the Indian government. I don't see how funneling even more money to India is going to solve their problems. This is a country that still has designated shitting streets for God's sake.
+Kyle Donahue It is true that people shit on streets in India but perhaps what you don't know is that they don't do so because they enjoy it, they do so because they are poor and there aren't much facilities available. India is widely divided between people who are billionaires ( people who couldn't care less about what is happening) affluent people ( those who like to ignore the non availability of services because they can afford it themselves) and the miserable poor. Unfortunately, the aid never reaches them. India spends around 70 billion pounds on welfare schemes and the British aid is merely 200 million pounds, it is not the money but the British Aid can make sure that 70 billion pounds are spent effectively and it reaches to the right people.
His speech shows that specific racisim toward india
We in India get to read a lot about problems of colonial legacy which i understand is
1. The destruction of traditional educational systems in India where a lot of emphasis was laid on moral education and philosophy of life, the lack of which is having tumultuous effects in modern day society.
2. Destruction of a sense of pride in one's culture,language,traditions and imposition of unnecessary english traits like eating with fork/spoon,dressing up in suits etc.
3. Commodification of human beings, women in particular in corporate culture,fields of entertainment and showbizz.
4. The careless boundary settlements done in sub continent like Ind-Pak border disputes,Ind-Bangladesh enclaves issue and so on which are a pain for govts even today.
5. The alienation of certain parts of the country like the North East India being kept in protective areas for exploitation of human and natural resources and spread of missionary activities.
If britain could provide solutions to these long standing problems they would deserve to stop the reparations.
All points are perfectly said 👍
Lack of traditional education system like the Gurukula system, great.
All right wing, faschistoid points. Fuck tradition and pride in culture. Also your arguments sexist, but framed as protecting women. Hindu nationalism is shit, just like any other nationalism, but also pretty funny to use it to try to argue against British nationalism. If one is valid, so is the other.
@@victord9814 education system first laid out were carefully made to enable Indians to work as office clerks. (Lord Macaulay's minutes) 1835.
the second and third generation Indians who benefited from basic reading made into political system and with demands and legislation brought wide spread education. steps were taken only after 1900s for wide spread primary, secondary education. This was by Indian legislators under British rule.
If British were truely benevolent in character they could have easily brought Education to all in first go.
If British were to claim legacy of developing India, they must have made Industrial revolution here. Instead they took raw materials from here drained our resources to fuel Industrial revolution of Britain.
You India need communism badly. Your caste system stinks. And its racist to dark skin people.
2:26 ask the same question to Germany
They are paying reparations
5:04
There's a difference between common wealth realm and common wealth. Common wealth realm countries recognise queen as head of state
@@nickelchlorine2753 paying reparations is beneficial to them? If that is the case Britain should have done the same to get those same 'benefits' now
There is a bit of 'give and take.' From what I've seen, not only in India, but across the Middle East and Africa too, there is more of taking and less of giving !
I love how he basically didn’t even answer a single Point of Information, because he knew his “facts” would’ve been debunked
They didn't say anything that needed responding to.
British aid to India is less than the "Fertiliser Subsidies" by the Indian government as put forward by Mr Shashi Tharoor.
How much is India spending on it's space program whilst millions of her people go hungry?
Looks like he's landed straight from the 1800's camouflaged by complete arrogance one can expect from a British colonialist with an overdose of SHIT.
The only gentleman who'd partaken in this debate and had literally the entire floor on the edge of their seats was Mr.Shashi Tharoor. Thought I'd hear some classical good counter debates to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, but what I get is an emotional biased justification, which starts with a good logical advice of keeping it away.
This could be the perfect sarcastic stand-up routine for a comedian. Word for word.
RJ Nair Now that i read this comment, i actually enjoyed this hilarious stand-up.
5:30 look how angry he gets when shashi tharoor corrects him 😂
Yes. He really got a feather in his cap for Dr. Tharoor. He really came after him and India! It came out quite strongly. He is an arrogant educated fool......
tharoor had his say then rudely interrupted the speaker, he's lucky he didn't get a smack...
@Andrew-tx9jy
Well It's called correction not interruption
sleep good tonight Sir Ottaway, whilst maggots churn around in that foul thing you call your conscience
Ooooh🔥🔥🔥🔥great choice of words.....you nust be a writer
5:42 Shashi Tharoor take a bow !
Is the full debate available to watch?
I found 3 vids one is of shashi tharoor and other two from opposition
edit: i found 4rth of a Indian girl
This guy is Nuts
And clearly Unpopular
Sheer inaccuracy of facts.
@Youthoob Gamer I thought british had that one they were crying endlessly about immigration.
7:34 because we're still poor and weak due to it
From where does he get the confidence to say such stupid and illogical things
And since he is talking of free discussion he should allow others to question him which he didn't in the video. Which is Ironic
The world may have moved on but the people have not moved on and we're not going to move on until you do what is Right😎😎😎!
"There are only 22 countries that Britain did not invade" is equivalent to "i only killed 99 people out of the 100 people, not more so im not guilty"
Ask him.. Where does Britain stands today ?..
Such a silly speaker... 😂
Extremely proud of the harm Brits did to the other countries😂😂.
If he were to wait for Dr. Tharoor's speech ... he would have ended up speechless by the time of his turn to speak.😂
Under British rule, evidence suggests there were beneficial improvements, with an eventual rise in life expectancy and an increase in wealth for some sectors of the population and economy, notably for much business and industry. The british empire wasn't perfect but it did benefit a lot of countries economicly. Building schools, railways ect and had very good trade. The idea that the british empire was so evil is obsurd. It still ended slavery, brought us the industrial revolution, capitalism and also law and order. In many ways formed the modern world. But I repeat it wasn't perfect.
@@corywheeldon1538 bitain has an horbl histry
britain was responsible for the deaths of millions across the world
@@corywheeldon1538 britain gave smallpox infected blankets to native americans
@@corywheeldon1538obviously white supremacist will love slavery. Igs not for you to decide but the victims.
Best jocker I have ever seen in my life... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not in your life maybe in this decade or century
What was the conversation from 8:20 to 8:25
Also unclear to me, but it must be some sort of outcry for not being permitted to present forth points of information, for which the Honourable President of the House had to intervene.
I'm from India
And I respect the fact that atleast they allowed an open debate
On this topic
The world would be an ignorant place if not for British Colonialism spreading and teaching the uneducated . They got Parliament, Schools, Libraries, Art, Science and the rest of trimmings of Colonial teachings. Why do they all flock to former British Commonwealth countries, Canada, NZ, Australia in particular?? UK the mother country is full of former colonials all come for the freebies , hospitals and education and free handouts the UK has to offer.
So be thankful you advanced your standards thanks to the British. Slavery started in Africa by Africans and Arabs. The British abolished world Slavery, something you have conveniently forgotten through time.
Ofcourse you will respect them becoz ur country is same like these oppressors, ur country is illegally occuping Kashmir from ages, I really don't get it how these Indian jokers go to International platforms and ask for reperations when they are doing same things to other people , don't they owe reperations to Kashmiris for killing their loved ones and oprresing them.
I'm (not) sorry, but people alive now should not pay for the crimes of the dead.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@@uniformitydubliner9691 They got the wealth by genocides and plunders. The UK is a parasitic country. Without a host body (colony), they're nothing and all their wealth goes down.
Just look at their economy right now. Look at the amount of debt that they have compared to the size of their GDP. Their economy is not even growing. Their growth rate is just 0.5% away from pushing the country into recession.
If they get the opportunity to repeat the plunders and genocides in other countries right now in order to save their economy then they'll definitely do it. Their track record isn't good either. Just look at their involvement in NATO war crimes.
All that they do is try to avoid questions and let the time pass so that they could say that it's all in the past and we should look forward. Some dumbasses still believe that the brits have changed 🤦♂️
Inferiority complex??? Clearly this man still retains Britain's colonial attitude. Somebody smack this attitude out of him. (not to mention the other crap he blabbered)
Vikas Vaddin I dont think you understand his point.
Oh really? why dont you explain it to me then? sam h
sam h Yes, please enlighten us.
Vikas Vaddin He's saying that if the British have to keep giving money to India then it buys into an inferiority complex that the ex-colonies 'need' the money from the British.
sam h - They are "giving back" the money, not "giving" the money. I hope that would clarify. :)
How inferior must somebody feel to demanad reparation from somebody for what their ancestors did to their own.
The British Empire ended in the 90s. And it's funny because the Britt get reparations. For World War 1 World War 2 up into the 21st century.
The more dislikes than likes says it all.
Yt removed the dislike count 😭
@@krishpatel3156 I mean, a video with 100k views and just 600 likes certainly wasn't appreciated by most
@5:40 great job Mr Tharoor
The last points about richest people is ridiculous
If anyone is having trouble with the subtitles, just click on the three dots above the description and open transcript :D Have a good day!
You all destroyed families by kidnapping slaves against their will
I have watched Tharoor's speech over 6 or 7 times.
Watching this for the first time and looks like Sashi taught him a lesson
Sashi Tharoor is a liar
@@donkeydesiamericanprofessor shut up you donkey when u dont know history keep your mouth shut up
@@shivangnautiyal3522 do you really believe what Sashi Thor has to say?
@@donkeydesiamericanprofessor its not a lie its a history of british colonisation
After looting many countries by britain they are still facing economic crises because karma come back to you and sooner or later we will beat you in gdp growth and living standard and india and china once again will dominate the world
It reminds me of Dailymail’s article in the backdrop of Spycather judgment “ you old fool”.
Colonial history should be taught to reporters of BBC.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
Hahahaha, mentioning Scottish and N.Irish separation from the UK today it doesn't look like it aged well.
No wonder this video has more dislikes
Ok! Do pay us back but return the stolen artifacts to the respective colonies.
Would you do that? Atleast.
the point of interpreting historical events trough modern values is his main point.
India has Head of State - the President of India (elected).
Head of Govt - PM (elected).
We are part of commonwealth just so that you can feel good. Nothing more.
If Canada's PM Justin Trudeau can apologize after 100 years for Komagata maru accident where even canada had nothing to do with and Germans can apologize to Poland then you can also apologize . Britain is also country on this planet.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
It happened 200 years before I was born, I didn't do it so I won't be apologizing. Get it?
@@Andrew-tx9jylie white lie. 1947 is 200 years ago
@@Andrew-tx9jyand you still enjoy the same wealth.
Britishers will never accept theirs wrongs
@@vatsal7640 What did Indians do against British?
@@vatsal7640 India was mostly ruled by outsiders. And no, those empires weren't as infamous.
@@vatsal7640 Not at the same scale. I am not denying it but lets face it. The region got worse under British.
Who is here after Dr. Shashi Tharoor's speech?
British government should at least apologize for colonization and as a symbol return kohinoor
limit of shamelessness..........better to shut up and listen to others.
I don't think Singapore owes its wealth to British colonialism, by the time they gained independence, they were poorer than Kenya and had to request for aid from Kenya. Their will to grow out of poverty is by no way thanks to colonialism. Nigeria has its wealth primarily on the oil and gas reserves. These are natural features and I find it hard to believe that had colonialism not occurred the oil reserves would move to a different colony as this speaker somehow suggests.
But the same example debunks the issue as well. Singapore can come out of Poverty, why can't India ? So no, colonies do not deserve any reparations after separation. Or else America must be back for the taxes in 1776.
Why is it that we ask the present generation who have nothing to do with the exploitation to pay reparations? Can the speaker go to the former colonies where children do not have access to education, are malnutritional and have to work the fields without a proper childhood and ask why he/she has to go through a life so difficult and why he has to pay the price for his ancestors not being able to prevent the exploitations? The speaker's logic is beyond my understanding - by his logic if his parents steal stuff and then die and later the court finds that the stuff was stolen, then he should not have to payback the stolen object because his parents stole it, not him.
And ALL the British colonies have been suffering from poverty for CENTURIES. Wow! Such progress by the UK!
The worst debateer
This is so in unbearable to watch I paused so many times for a breather
Though I completely agree with his conclusion.
Reparations.... Repare what you broke or torn out of balance ! Repare what was unjustly done by your ancestors. Simply an apology or acknowledgement of severe wrongdoings, true understanding & most important : CHANGE of behavior can be reparation....for the lives BRUTALLY TAKEN out of the hand of freedom !!!!
It's hard to watch this and not be infuriated.
It's hard for us to keep being asked to apologise and give reparations for something that someone else did over 200 years ago by people who it wasn't done to without being infuriated as well.
@@Andrew-tx9jyhehehe. Lie white lie. 1947 is 200 years ago.
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@7:01 a sincere thanks for correcting the speaker... A well explained and specific point
@7:01 he finally lends an ear to a point of information, after refusing to do so earlier on.
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
The problem with reperations is:
-How long do we go back? And there better be a damn good reason for whatever length of time.
-How can we calcule how much wealth taken out when corruption was rife and documents are more than likely to be exploited and corrupted?
-How can we factor in the positive outcomes in terms of wealth?
-Who does the money go to? Especially with a lot of corrupt African governments that just take money from charities and keep it.
-Why should the people in England suffer for the suffering of others caused by long dead people. Eye for an eye huh?
-Where can we even direct money from with such failings in our own healthcare, millitary, education and councils?
-Since much care is put into past suffering how can we be CERTAIN money we send to countries doesn't go into more suffering?
These important questions seem to go overlooked by people just repeating "Britain's commited past crimes, we should pay" I don't deny the exploration of the past British empire, however if we start literally paying for the wrong doings of the past then how long before we arrest the children of criminals? It's the same logic. 'Your father caused the suffering of others, you should suffer.'
I would also like to make a point that there was a lot of EMOTION involved from the speaker and the audience. We can't let emotion cloud rational ideas. There is no place for emotion in rational discussion.
I agree with you and you should know that after the second world war Germany gave money to the Jewish state for what they did in the holocaust and the Israeli government took most of the money because Israel were poor country and they needed it( many people in the Israeli public didn't want to get money from Germany but Germany still giving money today to the people who been trough the horror of the holocaust
Just return the artifacts and jewels and we will be happy. We don't want 'reparations'.
you dont need to make uk bankerupt for what they they but that would be the case if they are to repay for the atrocities. jewels, artifacts, trade routes, allies, some wealth etc. in fact, uk did not even apologize to any of the colonized nations.
@@rajeevkunapareddy1182 trade routes... such a bad thing a war crime i might say
@@user-jg3pl2gg1n so that is his point..how far did you go bac?
Now I want a debate on whether holocaust was justified or not.
Such arrogant is because Britain were never taught the bitter side of their colonised countries.