From MIT to Specola Vaticana: Guy Consolmagno at TEDxViadellaConciliazione
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Brother Guy Consolmagno is a Planetary Scientist at the Vatican Observatory. He is the curator of the Vatican meteorite collection, which is one of the largest in the world. He earned a degree from MIT and did post-doctorate work at MIT and the Harvard College Observatory. When he was 29, he joined the Peace Corps in Kenya. There, he taught suffering people about astronomy. He discovered that the desire for scientific knowledge is not limited to educated westerners, but is original and alive in the poor and uneducated. In this way, he discovered that astronomy belongs to us all. In 1992, he became a Jesuit Brother. In 2000, he was honored by the International Astronomical Union for his contributions to the study of meteorites and asteroids with the naming of "Asteroid 4597 Consolmagno".
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This guy came to my school today. He was awesome!
This deserves so many more views! As a fellow catholic who's studying physics in grad school, I really appreciate his perspective. Excellent talk.
Sadly it won't. Many atheist view men like him in contempt because they are a walking contradiction to them. They are living refutation of the so called "conflict" between science and religion when it should be better described as "Fundamentalism vs Science".
Keeping going! Muslim and studying theoretical physics here.
@@captainhd9741 thanks m8, glad to see more religious science nerds out there.
@@nucle4rpenguins534 :) As nerdy as we get 😭 im not crying its just a bug in my eye
@@captainhd9741 lol stand proud!
what area in physics do you research? (got me super interested now)
Most excellent presentation. I appreciate Brother Consolmagno's distinction between science and religion as well as his common ground pointing out that science and religion "worship" the same god and seek to find answers to mysteries in different ways.
Excellent presentation that calls attention to necessity of both the Humble Argument and Scientific Argument in inquiry
Muchas gracias Hermano Guy Consolmagno, saludos desde Italia.
Excellent talk!!!! Great conclusion.
He is such a good presenter, very interesting
at the end of the day we are all after Truth (Science and Religion), what is important is that we pay attention to the voice of the other and respect each other, because if you want to go it alone, I am afraid you will miss the mark!
You're making an assumption... all the greatest minds have worked alone... including Nicolai Tesla, Isaac Newton, etc.
Let's say you are right, I would still agree with you and say those minds were not anti-religion except for a few of them.
"Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see." (Hebrews 11:1)
In religion it is assumed there is a transcendental truth (an ultimate reality as philosophers call it) that is the root of all that exists. Like the idea that the universe is rational, we can not prove this because we are incapable of being present at the beginning of the universe, and are limited by our physical limitations. However, like science, religion starts with this basic assumption and builds on top of it with philosophical inquiry into the nature of the ultimate reality.
We assume we exist without having solid proof of it. We assume others exist and aren't figments of our psyche without having solid proof of it. We assume others love us without having solid proof of it. Scientists assume that the universe follows rational laws without being able to prove it (they can't test their theories in every part of the universe after all). All humans start with beginning assumptions and build off of them. Both science and religion do this.
There is indeed a lot of money in science (government-funded military programs, pharmaceuticals, the exorbitant costs of healthcare in some situations, etc), and a lot of money in religion (American mega churches, etc) but Fr. Guy is pointing you to the actual honest and sincere person about their search for truth who doesn't do it FOR the money, rather the type of person who only seeks the means to achieve knowledge through painstaking patience, which is present in religious discipline too.
Bravo!!!
And yet ... who has found truth? Who has evidence of truth?
An inspiring talk by an intelligent man. But as a Catholic, he can't say (as he did) that the truth may be divine but we're not. It's very Catholic to deny the words of the man who said otherwise.
"Ye are gods and all of you are children of the most high"
No, the first references for science in the 15th century were books of natural philosophy: Aristotle's "De caelo," "The Physics," the Prior and Posterior Analystics, Witelo's "Perspectiva," Sacrobosco's "On the sphere," Abertus Magnus' "On plants and vegetables," et al.
Some people believe in fables -- in history no less than elsewhere.
“Natural philosophers” is the common term for those early scientists who made investigations of nature. Thales of Miletus in the 6th century is dubbed the Father of Science, though the scientific method had not been employed until the Middle Ages.
It wasn’t until the 19th century that the term “scientist” was coined by William Whewell, himself both a scientist and a priest.
@@mojave19 Freethinkers Always never mention details like that sadly.
@@mojave19 Your programming and indoctrination ... the mind control under which you suffer ... are spectacular.
Very nice talk.
Si possono avere in italiano queste conferenze? Mille grazie mi interesserebbero tanto
How far away were those astronauts on the Apollo mission that that Earth was so small
About 238,900 miles
He does look like he escaped from the movie set of Hobbit.... :) Like him thou
I mean no offence, but perhaps the conclusions of this presentation was not clear: science and religion both seek the truth, though in different ways and with different starting points. Thus he (as well as everyone else) can easily mention the bible or the koran or any other religious text within the same context as any scientific paper. Thats really the point of the whole presentation, that science and religion both seek the truth.
If you know so much about the new evidence, prove it. What has the new study concluded? What is the new time span for the shroud? What did the scientific investigation conclude about the most likely cause of the image? Prove you know something rather than just claiming you do. The primary assumption in all religions is that there is a transcendent truth, not all religions have a God or gods. Learn about something before you bash it.
I hope you also question your "education".
But he does not refer to the Bible as a science book. That an author used then-current science for his imagery is not the same thing.
There, that was easy.
In science it is assumed that the universe operates under rational laws that can be discovered through reason. Scientists can not prove this because they can not be in all parts of the universe at once testing theories. They can only perform tests within a sector of our solar system, at best. Despite this lack of certainty they assume that the universe is rational and build scientific inquiry on top of the assumption.
And yet the world of Quantum physics makes no sense.
@LEEK the schroedingers cat was not an experiment. But a story to try to explain superpositions and the copenhagen interpretation in a more intuitive way.
Or a thought experiment. It is not something that is possible to actually do as an experiment.
The copenhagen interpretation is one way of explaining the results of the double slit experiment.
Manyworlds is another explanation, hidden variables is another and so on. There are alot of different possible explanations.
And the sad thruth is that we have no idea about it yet.
Are particles waves that collapse to a particle at observations, or are there universes splitting off at every possible quantum interaction? Both are possible in the maths. The universes splitting off even requires less assumptions than the wave collapsing interpretation.
What we know is that it acts like a wave, and forms patterns like a wave until observed.
The world of quantum physics have lots of theories that are pretty fleshed out and understands the working of it quite good. But we still dont understand the fundamental nature of quantum mechanics.
La fede può essere solo un fatto personale. Non ci sono verità nei cosiddetti libri sacri esattamente come non ve me sono (e questo trova d'accordo anche Mr.Guy) nei cosiddetti testi scientifici. Già superati un minuto dopo essere stati pubblicati.
Plenty of Truths there especially if formed from Humanity itself.
So you think scientists don't think they have answers, they don't think they know something, they don't think they have knowledge? "Proof" is difficult in both areas. Actually, what science "proves" one day is already "disproven" 5 years from then, as Fr. Guy explains here. God does have the answers. But we don't know them yet. God is true and we need to get that information somehow. I think a religious person has more motivation and confidence to keep on doing scientific work for this reason.
Sadly, much of science is no longer scientific. Great talk, though!
no i don't assume i exist i know i am here! i saw other people!! i can only assume they are all happy! my mom raised me and stood up for me when needed i know she loves me!! dude for knowing that god loves me or that he exist he needs to show that,,i don't need people to tell me he is awesome,,i want to see it from him self!! until then he is a fictional character!! in science when you don't have ways to prove your theory it doesn't become "the only truth" as god in religion is!!
The earth is Flat
um what
A Jesuit is talking about science fiction and faith...
Also, try to tell me what you understand out of 14:40-15:40. Maybe if you realize you aren't in a position to summarize the issue into a phrase (meme?) that is convenient to you, maybe you allow some room to give credit to religion.
you mean when he says:"religion starts with divine truths, which are truth, but poorly understood because while the truth might be divine we are not.." and comparing it with science that goes the other way, and that is the one that is correct..we don't know thus we shall try to found out without saying it is something supernatural before we have proof of it!!
How could a man of the clothe work at an observatory that is named lucifer, he said he would even baptize an alien.
It's because he is insane.
watched again and dude yes theology is a kind of science that already have the answers and try to fit the evidence to support them..and don't think i am clueless and prejudiced in my views..when someone will have the evidence for supernatural, all of you will cease to be believers, and then you will cease to be clueless and prejudiced!! :G
first: there is no money in this business trust me!? i don't think that is true, actually i know that that is not true!
and second: great start of speech, just until he mentions bible in the same context with science!can't understand how is possible to have understanding of scientific view of life as he seems to have, and yet refer to bible as some kind of science book!
at the most i can say there is some energy that is generating life but to say it's jahve or muhammad, is just silly assumption
you don't believe in science then. do you?
Backs to the wall boys, here comes the priest.
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@@pounamubts7802 That comment was based on thousands of newspaper reports and thousands of court cases ... The flamboyant priest with a lisp is a horrifying reminder.
Lucifer is the father of LIES. Turn to Jesus.
69QuIzAcK69 he told me turn back around and watch where I’m going.
Theology is not science. Yes, reason and logic, but no science. You can make up anything with metaphysics. Faith. Faith. Faith.
It must fit with both philosophy and reason as well as the truths held to by the faith. You can't make up whatever you.want and expect it to be accepted by the community. Not to mention that there are trends, patterns, and consistent methods that work in the spiritual life. Theology is essentially drawing what truth you can out of what information regarding God, life, morality, the world, and humanity you have available to work with. It is a science, it is just one based upon a different source to draw from. It is a philosophical discipline though if deductive it can be something very close to science. Science itself is naught but a particular branch of deductive philosophy afterall. And what we call science was formerly known as the natural sciences. The older broader term being preserved in the term 'arts and sciences" with philosophy, ethics, and mathematics being included versus literature, fine art, music and the like. If a modern category had to be added, I would say computer and information science would be the best candidate.
The point is that it is like science in some ways and like history in others, and even like literature in still others, and yet it also has fundamental differences in its nature. This is what makes it a distinct organized discipline. Yet it is not an art, there is not free reign for creativity, there are hard and fast boundaries and rules for what is accepted as plausibly being accurate. Thus it is a science, but not a natural science.
Yet all of the disciplines draw (or at least ought to draw) on one another. This is how humanity makes any real worthwhile progress, using all tools available to us.
Great scientific thinker but there is no WAY that theology is a science.
John Dee Is Me , then science isn’t what you think it is. And neither is theology.
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none taken at all..i like to listen others..but i don't think i am wrong if i say that difference in seeking truth between religion and science is in position of view,,where religion already have an answer with no proof and searching for answers is kinda pointless, obviously god made it all, so only one who have the answers is god!! science says, i don't know, we'll test everything and see,first references for science in 15th century were religion books,it's 21st century science moved on!! :D