Recycling Old Gasoline
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2012
- I was given @17 gallons of 4 year old gas from a friend when we changed out his fuel pump. I filtered the gas for later use. I found some gasoline from 2004 that was forgotten about and I added it to my mower for testing at 10%.. • SHTF Fuel Transfer Pump
Thanks for posting this. I have a project car that has, unfortunately, been sitting with the same gas for about 2 years. Although I did use a fuel stabilizer/treatment, I was pretty paranoid about the gas being bad an potentially damaging the pump and/or injectors. This makes me feel much more confident that if I dilute with some new gas and change the filter, that everything will be OK. Great video
Pretty cool! I like your little transfer pump setup, certainly could come in handy and I just might have to build one of those myself.
Heres a tip, with that style of fuel pump its recommended that those types of pumps need to be horizontal while in operation. what happens is while pumping theres a void of air at the top of the pump, eventually burning up the pump. so make sure its horizontal so the pump can push the air out. just a friendly tip, to save you money. :)
BassheadGTP I believe you're right on the money on that most of those pumps I've seen in RVs they are pump is upright looks upside down to me to
Thank you for your input. Question: How much transmission fluid/marvel mystery oil do you add per gallon of diesel?
Thank you for adding your experience to the forum.
I was surprised too ! I ran the mower today for @90 min and no issues. I will be adding some more old gas(20%) to it tomorrow and see how it does. Thanks for your input.
Back in the 1980's I had a 57 Dodge that had gas that was over a decade old.
It smelled like turpentine but still ran on it.
The fastest way to test it is try a little bit of 100% old gas first and then keep adding some fresh until it runs.
You can't kill an old Dodge. A slant six will run on water.
When gasoline with ethanol gets a little moisture in it the gasoline goes to the top and the water/ethanol combo goes to the bottom. Sometimes it will tristate with the water at the bottom temporarily however ethanol does mix with water (hence whiskey does not result in a boundary). I am not surprised the stuff at the top burns well. Old gas will run at high speed in my boat but does not idle well. You can feel power come and go depending on what is going in. At load speed it results in stalling when you get too much water/ethanol and not enough gas.
Thanks for watching and adding to the forum.
Thanks. I think you are spot on with your prediction.
Thanks for the great information. I think in the future scavenging for old gasoline will be a very realistic senario.
Was there any water in the fuel from being absorbed by the ethanol? And if so, how did you remove it?
since the paper lit on fire when you dunked it in the gas. i wonder if it would run something like a pushmower,straight,with no new gas/ or maybe mix some oil and try to run a weedeater. something small so if it doesnt work you could dump it out pretty easy.
so I guess this debunks the myth on stale gas no usable after a year.
I don't know what year this video was made but in Tucson Arizona a 5-gallon gas can is 27 bucks 2 1/2 gallon gas can is about 20 bucks 19.99 at AutoZone
All well and good. Great idea. However, I have several of those "red" gas containers and EVERY ONE of them is split at the top of the handle. Also, while your "old gas" appears to be clear, my old gas is yellow, and it has that old gas smell.
Thanks for the tip and the nice comment.
The main problem with old gas that is allowed to sit in vehicles fuel system is that as it ages it gets gummy and will stop up carburetors and injectors.
90 Honda accord been setting for 2 and HALF years no gas in tank i put 10 gallons in tank nothing pump shot. Drained the new gas out of tank into to 5 gallon cans. Cleaned tank 5 times to get all the old crap out its clean and new fuel pump installed no gas in it now but i was thinking of a double fuel filter to get out any little flakes of rust or dirt out of good new gas and then put it back into tank via hand pump and toss bottom of can gas out taking the top 4 gallons of each can ?the crap should settle to the bottom and filtering the top gas should be clean and no rust flakes or crap from tank drain.. Will a simple inline filter work ?
The filters will catch any trash. But the bad separated ethenol gas will go thru the filter, Put old gas in a container untill the ethenol separates then just suction off the top,clean gas floats to the top . I run it my truck daily from my mower shop
I used to put old gas in my boss's jeep. Tried to keep it diluted at least 50/50. Somewhere along the line it didn't turn out. Maybe he was using regular. You have to have enough octane for the flame front to maintain the specified speed. If it burns too slow you get detonation, a chemical firing out of time which can cause several problems. In our case a piston blew its top and the engine lost compression. Took $300 in parts to repair and I paid for it. So beware. Use the best premium you can get. I like Mobile. Better reduce the percentage to 25-33 %. Give yourself a safety margin to spare yourself headaches later. Mowers get finicky with old gas. They need a little help lighting it up. So far I have not seen a detonation problem. Past a certain point they just refuse to run. Use expired gas if you want but burn it all off and don't let it sit. Coffee filters help get precipitates out. Maybe chase it with some fresh. Try alternating old and fresh. Waste not, want not.
I purchased a new generator in 2017 and put Non-Ethanol gas in, and forgot about it until the gas shortage of 2021. My generator started up with FOUR YEAR OLD GAS!!
Do u guys know where I can Go to to dispose diesel mixed with gasoline.
There’s an easier way to make stale gas useable. What I do is pour it through two coffee filters and then mix it 50/50 with fresh gas. I probably wouldn’t use it in a modern fuel injected car as the octane would still be a bit low, but works perfectly well in my lawnmower, chainsaw, and snowblower. If you have a boiler in your house that uses heating oil, you can also simply add the old gas to the tank. You wouldn’t want to use too much as gasoline is more explosive, but I’ve put in two gallons of gasoline per 175 gallons of heating oil with no problem.
from the little bit of research that I've done on gasoline does not matter if it burns for running it in an engine it's the flashing point of which it ignites which is more important
Thank you, Sir.
Sounds like a prudent idea, thanks.
I have no trouble using 15 year old gas or better I've used 20 year old gas in my old 1982 f- 150 inline 6 as long as you don't don't particulates it into the tank the old gasoline is not going to hurt you
How do you filter water out
That's how I burn my old gas, even 2 stroke mix, mower burns her right up in the summer and snowblower in the winter. It all starts as non oxy though which is only high octane here so might help longer term.
I filter then use a bit of avgas.Old FE loves it.
I know you are probably doing this already but you must keep that light switch very far away from the gasoline fumes or you will create a spark that will ignite the fumes. Also, I would add some STP or PRI-G to the old fuel.
Thanks for the tips.
U can buy a product gas tapped or do what he did for less. You can take a long narrow funnel and cut it appropriately to bypass that baffle in the tank fill neck . Use a larger more rigid hose and then use a more narrow suction hose to get to the bottom of the tank . I use Star Tron products to stabilize my gas works very well it has enzymes in it . Yes enzymes and eat the growth and disburse the water for fuel injected motors . The gum from old gas that's not treated can do all kinds of bad things . The worst being a failing fuel pump mounted inside the tank . So he's trying to master filtering old fuel before the chit hits the fan . Would be rather challenging trying to learn something at that time .
You are right. A physics instructor I had years ago said that we should never take anything at face value. Thanks for adding to the forum.
I realize this this a really old video BUT I just found it! I have 8-10 gallons of non-ethanol gas that I treated about 4 yrs ago and planned to use it in my generator in case of emergency. It has been sitting outside in the shade. I don't have a fancy filtering system like you have and I'm a 70yr old woman so I can lug it around. I am wondering if it is still good for the generator and what, if anything, can I do to make it better right out of the can. Thanks.
Without being able to see or smell your gasoline, it would be very hard to advise you on the proper course of action.
I used to work for a company that did air craft fuel flow systems, hate to break it to all the "nay" sayers, but as long as the fuel container is not in the sun, and is sealed, you will be fine for say at least 10 years, NOTE: AIR and LIGHT are the big no-no's with fuel,most fuel tanks have a vent that allows air to mingle with the fuel, fuel does expand with temp changes so fumes get pushed out and air gets sucked in. the bottom line, " keep fuel sealed and dark."
I think a different style filtering setup would be better Life's a one from a diesel tractor that is designed to separate the water from the fuel has a much bigger filter
4-year-old, ha, 14-year-old gas stored out of direct sunlight and not in extreme temps will run an engine.
Great idea. Thanks.
I parked a Corvette in my driveway 8 years ago after I topped off the tank (to prevent rust) added a bottle of stabil to it and now I have to get rid of 20 gallons of that crud to get it running again. Will try running it in my Honda Passport at about 5:1 and I guess the only real liability is a clogged fuel filter?
Thanks.
I am not a big fan of stabil for storing gas. I used to do that, and it turns out what a small engine repair guy told me was true. The stuff turns into jiblets over time and gums the engine up. The object was to have extra gas for emergency use at any given time. I was treating it when new and using it at around the one year mark. I was rotating out ten gal per month all of which was treated and a year old. My truck engine got where it wouldn't function. My mechanic had to do all sorts of stuff and took the tank off and was aghast at the tar like sludge that was in the tank. After a lot of expense I wont use that again. Now I just buy ten gal a month and rotate out my oldest ten, never letting it get older than six or seven months old. I have three vehicles and keep the tanks full most of the time, so that makes for a pretty good fuel stash. One of my old trucks that I don't use on the road anymore sat around for years and it would crank and run fine with the old gas that was in it.
I tried to keep the hose off of the very bottom of the tank as not to pick up any of the water. When we droppped the fuel tank, I saw no water, but did see a lot of rust. It is my opinion that the majority of the water reacted with the steel in the tank and the pump. Therefore, the water that was left was minimal.
I am anxious to find out. I'll let you know.
How long will gas last if you use a stabilizer?
Depends on how much you use. 2 years is about the max benefit. Follow the directions on the label. Use a bottle with ounce marks to measure. Briggs and Stratton offers them.
good job i just drop a gas tank on a cheer kie jeep and the becasuse the fuiel pump would not hum so i check the relays and fuses and all was good but the filter was bad and the gas was old and stunk so my friend gave it to me . i plane on useing it on my bomb fire or my push mower .
The manufacturer recommends 2 years maximum. However, it seems that it will last much longer with or without the stabilizer under the right conditions..
How does this help anyone who dont have your fancy filter?
@@ameerordimly1449 You can make one like this:ua-cam.com/video/rM6JJUxQlyQ/v-deo.html
or you could fashion up a one that works on gravity.
I'd just distill it into White Gas or Naptha...it never goes bad and you can use it in your Coleman Stove or Lantern!
Darrin G. how do you do that what is the process
Question:
SO ethanol attracts moisture.....but the fix for moisture in gas is to add alcohol. I'm just trying to understand how that works. Thanks
the alcohol absorbs the water so it can be burnt
I just decant it. Gas these days has all the alcohol it can stand fresh out of the pump. Your water contamination may actually improve the gas by dissolving out the alcohol. Let it stand and the water will settle out.
What is that pump? Is it just a 12 volt fuel pump for a car? I run a small engine repair shop and need a way to use all the old gas I take out of the equipment I work on. That set up you made looks great.
Thanks. It is a 12v fuel pump for a race car/hot rod. There is a link to a vid in the description box that explains it better. It is called " SHTF Fuel Transfer Pump".
That sounds like a good common sense idea. Thanks.
you might want to vent that box a bit...I would hate for some residual gas fumes from the hoses to build up on you in that box
I usedp to buy cheap petrol from a junck yard and cause problem in my car long crank and rough start
Great Video my friend! Great information-
Thanks bro.
can you tell me how to built tht filter machine
ua-cam.com/video/rM6JJUxQlyQ/v-deo.html
My thoughts as well, and mix 50/50 or less.
Even old stale gas which turned to gum and varnish won't keep paper from burning. And stale gas burning / firing a mower engine is not the issue. The stale gas won't burn cleanly and will gum up the combustion chamber, valves, pistons, etc.
I think U may get the same resault if U filtered the gas with a stack of 3 Coffee Filters in a funnel if U were in a pinch!
Slow flow. One is probably adequate.I use 2.
Sonny Lee Thanks!
I'll find something to try it on with it straight and let you know.
I thought ethanol removed water?alcohol mixes with water
where would u take old gas ?
Matthew Weert
Use it to kill fire ants 😉
Matthew Weert some cities have super easy drive thru recycling centers.
Cool!
And ask me how I know ,been there and done that
am i high or are the gas cans moving @ .@
me too.
I think that was an optical effect created by the slight movement of the camera. I sure hope it was!
it's from huffing gas fumes,,,lol.
he's using an iPoo, their video stabilisation was never as good as the Android
Dude's a 'prepper' and using a Spyphone. Wow.
I’m about to pull out 10 year old gas from a Porsche I’ve had sitting. Not sure what to do with the gas once I pull it out, anyone recommend anything. I have no use for the gas.
Fitch Fuel Catalyst. A permanent fuel catalyst and preserver. Revive old, stale, nasty fuel to like-new condition. 30 years of aging and degradation can be reversed. If you think it ends there.........it doesn't. Fill a gas can with 5 gallons of 87 octane, add the drop-in-tank fuel catalyst, and leave it for 1 year. You now have 5 gallons of 93+ octane gasoline.
Iv.e been doing this since i was a kid since my dad had a used car lot I hardly ever paid for gas u can use old fuel 50/50 just fine in a low compression non injected engines even if it smells like varnish real stinky also if u have a diesel engines as u said 1 tank had diesel fuel if your diesel is older than 2007,the new low sulfur fuel needs help,marvel mystery oil or ATF That right Trans fluid u get lubrication,anti gel & increased cetane I use it in my 04 diesel.U,d be great Next door.
Cars with fuel injection do better with old gas than anything with a carburetor. I would just take small amounts and put in your car with a lot of fresh gas. Eventually you will burn it all up. Try to stick with new gas after that.
distiill the gas and it will take out all the bad stuff and it will be clear when you are done and its just like or better than new gas
Check YT for a video of a man running his bike on 14 year old gas that he just filtered through an old shirt then let it settle. No problem and no "stabilizer". The "old gas" myth is just that.
If it came out of an old rusty tank I will filter threw a rag but otherwise I have always just mixed old gas 50-50 with new gas and run the stuff. Same way my grandpa taught me and I know he done it way before I was born 36 years ago. Runs just fine in our tractors and lawn mowers. Now if I was gonna try to run it in something fuel injected I might worry about some fancy overthought filter and pump system but only if it came out of some old rusty tank or unknown source. Having it stored in a plastic can I wouldn't.
If it's a crappy old bike or lawnmower sure, go ahead. But put it in a late model car and your 'check engine' light will probably come on indicating a fuel problem. The old gas is likely to start gumming up your carb or injectors, and may cause your valves to stick. They you'll have to buy cleaner additives to try and clean out the fuel system, or it's off to the repair shop if that doesn't work.
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Btw, if it stalls out your car where you can't even start it, you'll need to tow it to a car shop where they will have to pull out the fuel tank to drain and clean it, then clean your injectors and flush out the whole fuel system, about a $1000 repair. So think long and hard before trying it in your car or late model motorcycle. Is it worth trying to save about $45 worth of gas?
I literally just watched that video, here's the link for those interested ua-cam.com/video/2IrIEwiiJsM/v-deo.html
And yes, was a metal tank so it was rusty, but was filtered with a crude filter
@@st8kout961 or I could just drop the tank myself and empty it.
I've got 60 gals of bad gas maybe more.Front tank gas doesn't look too bad but rear tank gas is dark and smells alot.$5 a gallon makes me want to save it.But if it's going to cost me more to fix it .
What it will do is gum up your valves & valve guides, this will not happen instantly but it will do it,
My mower is only 2 years old. The gas in it is only about 6 months old. It won't start. I took out the sparkplug and I could smell gas. Does anyone have an idea what else I can check?
Hor eye zon change the motor oil too. Also check the new spark plug is spaced correctly.
Thanks, I cleaned the carb and replaced the plug and got it running using same gas. Would the original plug be spaced wrong?
Hor eye zon that's probably what it needed. Don't think so, maybe it needed to be changed.
Things to see what’s going on: since you’ve got a new plug in there i would just keep an eye on how fast it’s getting carbon buildup etc. hook up a tachometer and see how many RPM’s you are running. Most new riding mowers and some push mowers have auto choke features. Some work better than others but when something’s is just slightly wrong it’s a PITA to diagnose. Make sure your engine comes all the way up to Range when wide open. Take a look at the carb bowl and make sure you don’t see anything amiss or deposits/trash. Change engine oil to a synthetic of your choice. And lastly: in line fuel filter if you don’t already have one. Make sure to change it when necessary and a fuel cut off valve is handy to add if not already equipped.
i would just filter it and add some ethanol gas treatment as well as some sta-bil.
8oz+- per 6 gall can of fuel oil at fill up so what ever that comes to marvel is about the same I forget. I believe,It states on bottle ATF is cheaper.I have looked all over For some else who know this old time trick.I was told to do this when i was a kid living in RI. every body did this mostly in the winter but for what passes for Fuel these days I use it all the time. Plus putting alcohol in Gas is crazy,It,s a water magnet,I,m sure u know the trouble that causes.Government is killing US.
Me looking up this video to be more environment friendly
This guy: burning gas outside and stamping it on the ground with his shoes.
Me: 0_o
If you really wanted to be more environment friendly, you would be recycling batteries and the electricity that you used watching this video had been produced by solar components that were constructed without the use of any fossil fuels or child labor. Me o_0.
Old towel will work :)
Google is all bullshit. Ive started my dirtbike with 4 year old gas and it worked
not hoarder just keepin around 18gallons of gas from 8 years ago even tho i know gas gets old. Swear it will get used one day!
I did use it.
get a can of heet that removes water and if you want some octane boster.
get off of long island while you still can!!! im stuck here... holy shit does it suck.... 12000 in taxxes for a small house on a acre.... dont forget about all the dam ticks i get at least 5 off my dog every fucking day... good luck
jay kup wow!
old gas... :'(
cool gizmo, until it falls into the wrong hands and entire parking lot of cars gets drained in an hour.
The gas thieves around here like to use a cordless drill to punch through the bottom of fuel tank to steal their gas. A cordless drill is another cool gizmo also until it too falls in the wrong hands.
+David Ringler Don't vehicles now have baffles in the entry to the tanks so siphon hoses wont go down into them, hence the thieves drilling holes in the bottom?
+homesteadprepper drilling holes in a fuel tank....Isn't that dangerous?
Is your camera drunk?!? Everything is wobbly / wonky.
Its all good until ya put it through a Catalytic Converter.!!
Was great video up till bout 55% thru
About the same as for your comment.
@@homesteadprepper hahaha. Thx. Hahaha
MOLOTOVS!!!!!
If it burned OK couldn't you just put it right into a lawnmower??
I would not recommend it with out filtering and I would mix it with some good gas as well.
Lol !
LOL! Thanks.
Gas doesn't get dirty from sitting so filtering is pointless. Old gas will burn, but the octane will be lower and it'll likely leave more crap in the engine.
You're partially correct. The filtering will help to remove water that accumulates in older gas. Old gas can be "revived" by pouring a medium or high octane gas into it to increase/balance out the octane.
Old gas can be revived without chemicals or adding new gasoline. Fitch Fuel Catalyst.
Well they filtered it because of the rust build up in the old tank. Those little rust bits can clog up a fuel pump or the filter. It’s cheap insurance
Thanks.