Distilling Gasoline
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Here in Costa Rica there is no way to get Coleman Fuel or white gasoline, so I was forced to search an alternative to such fuels.
Due to the fact that importing original Coleman fuel would be super expensive the only way to go was getting white gasoline, or.....obtaining it by destillation.
This because the last thing you want to burn in your lantern are those nasty Gums, Aromatics and additives mixed in gasoline. These are ok, to burn it in your car motor but not in your lantern.
White gas or Coleman fuel is basicaly light hydrotreated distillate which basicaly comprises hydrocarbons with carbon numbers between C9 and C16.
No naftalene in white gas and its a bit different than gasoline, however removing the additives present in gasoline actually makes a rather good fuel for a liquid fuel stove. Thanks for the vid!
Let's see... a liter of Coleman fuel in here in Italy is 18 Euro... 1 liter of gas is 1.45 Euro... Thanks for the hack!
By Distilling the gasoline, you are removing most of the Olefin's & Paraffin's from the gasoline. You are also removing most of the "Heavy Ends" from the gasoline mixture. This means that the new clear gasoline mixture will almost completely vaporize at lower temperatures. Check out the Gasoline Vapor Systems group on Facebook.
Simple and elegant! Take your bottle to a Hardware store in the pluming section and find a steel or plastic compression fitting that can screw onto the bottle and the hose. Made out of those materials would be very cost effective Before you assemble the still just crush the bottle. That way there's no need for vents and there are no cancerous fumes venting into your home. You could revive "varnished" "spoiled" gasoline.
For Kerosene lantern use Kerosene, this is Gasoline and is to be used on a White Gasoline lantern 200A. This is not intended to be used on a Kero, can be very dangerous.
awesome setup thanks for sharing this...hey have you tried putting a wick in the heavier hydrocarbons that didnt evaporate? i think it would be more of a kerosene type mix leftover, good for heating, seems a shame to waste it
That was very interesting, thank you for sharing the process with us. Sorry to see you have to go to this trouble to make white gas.
the white bucket contains water, the copper tube enters the water and makes a spiral movement all way down the bucket where is a small hole where the tube comes out, cooling the vapor and condensing it into white pure gas.
Very interesting. What is the octane of the fuel you start with? From what I have read, the true Coleman fuel is octane of appx 50-60. It has a faint blue tint. I know it contains some anti-rust additives as I have seen Coleman stoves that sat for 25 years unused with fuel in the tank, and that tank looks absolutely flawless inside. I have burned Coleman fuel that is 20 years old and it works just fine, so the stuff is rockstar. Interesting video. Be safe.
@CaptainKbec I honestly dont know, the only thing I know is that the final product is cristal clear and burns like a charm, and the remaining thing in the can stinks and by no means present an advantage to burn into your lantern.
Did you distil it a little too long? I notice it is pretty yellow and not clear like water. Assuming you could, what temperature would you set the hot plate/stove at?
those gums and other additives in gasoline can clog up engine parts or do damage. but its better to run gasoline like the kind you make. btw what was the liquid you poured into the brake fluid can because it looks like jet fuel or an alcohol based fuel.
Love the idea,a little scared of the exaction a bit though. Along with the white gas coming out would still be butane vapors. Doing that indoors could be detrimental, at least here where every houses heater and hot water tanks have an ignition source and tend to be in the house. Being I plan to run at least 3L at a time I will be using a electric hot plate so that I’m clear of any ignition source and out side where I don’t have to worry about the butane vapors building up indoors.
very good informative video.
ignore the health & safety fans my friend.
common sense rules :)
this would keep generators alive for ages after the pre distilled petrol / gas in coleman stoves.
i wonder how much real difference there is between regular and super petrol / gas?
thanks mate
I have no idea bro, but either way once distilled ir becomes pretty much the same I think.
Octane numbers. Most volatile element, gives it the explosive force needed in a piston chamber. Butane 2, propane 4, octane 8 hydrocarbon molecules.
How you know what is the exactly time to stop the process?
@DS No, your thermometer will tell you!
Great video though a verbal narration would have been nice Thanks for taking the time to show us how simple this can be Let me ask how much do you heat the gasoline Is it just warm ? Is it too hot to Touch? Would you use the Lowest setting on a hot plate?Thanks again
Don V just enough to make it boil, around the same temp as for water..
212 Degrees Fahrenheit makes water boil.
the waste product? can that be reintegrated back into regular gasoline?
@stonefisk Temperature range? well that's hard to tell since I don't have any way to know it but I roughly esteem that was around 300C, believe it or not, less temperature doesn't work well.
I'm just wondering how much fuel was burned heating the gasoline? ..you have to factor that into cost.. Time and level of heat from electric burner?
I get it you cant get the stuff cheep there but did it really save? just curious ..not knocking your process, its a good hack.
Boiling gasoline is a bit frightening but no one ever wrote a book about people playing it safe. *slams glass down loud on table*. cheers!
Can you get White K1 Kerosene some countrys call it Parrafin
all kinds of questions. what temp is your stove any fumes to worry about
Is that sound the fume extractor? We have a huge one for this
@acfinney1 Pretty easy, get molasses, mix it with fresh water proportion 3 to 10, put it in a 5 gallon water bottle/jug add beer yeast, put a cap on it with a rubber hose about 3/16 tightly fit from the cap to a recipient with water after a week or so when it make just a few bubbles, siphon it to a clean recipient leaving out the sediments and proceed to distill it, once distilled, fill an oak barrel with it and wait for 5 years.
Perfect video I wish you lots of views.
Can I use this fuel in catalyst handwarmer? Does it contain any aromatic compound ?
Well, that seems very safe!
What temperature was the burner at?
@nhopper Honestly accordingly to Costa Rican refining company the octanes are 92, I dont know if coleman fuel has or not octane since this is not necessary to operate a lantern.
Antirust is a good additive in Coleman fuel but ignore if gasoline here in C.R or in the U.S has that, anyway after refining this I took about 2 c.c of the red residue and added it to the product so it get back some of the original additives but in a very light amount.
What is the temperature setting on the hot plate?
How did I make grape juice from gas?
Thanks for Sharing. What should be the temperature range to get white gas. Thanks
If you're using a thermometer and reflux column, 35-110c is a good range. That brings over pentane to tolulene. This range wont foul up the coleman naphtha stoves and lamps. The real gassy boom stuff comes off before 35, those are your butanes and iso-pentaine. These are generally gas at room temp and are not safe as a coleman fuel alternative. Old fuel is great to distill as these gasses are usually gone over time anyway.
@@The411 Many thanks for the satisfactory information 🙏
Napthalene is not a liquid. It's a white, crystalline solid that has a strong odor. I suspect that it's soluble in many solvents...
"Coleman Fuel" is basically gasoline without octanes. Octanes boil a little ways above the rest of the gasoline components, so they stayed behind.
Gasoline contains benzene, toluene, and xylene. Benzene boils at 80C, so it's the first to distill unless an azeotrope forms.
CYA. Benzene is very toxic.
Can someone please tell me how is oil refined into fuels? First you heat the oil then is refined at a certain temperature? By any chance do you know if there is an easy way better then refining how you can turn oil to fuels or is that the only process?
Whoa, that is some really red gasoline! I wouldn't want to burn that in my lantern either...
@framed30 I'm not sure about the temperature but I roughly esteem 300 to 400 C not fumes cause it is a closed system and one puts a damp paper where the tube enters the bottle nose so no fumes.
One might say it is pure gasoline, Coleman fuel is pretty close to it but they add very small quantities of additives, buy this is pretty close to it.
Is this ok to burn Ina a Coleman gas stove and cook on
@CaptainKbec Maybe they put something in canadian gas or the smell is normal for this, anyway it doesnt matter as long as the additives that are ok to burn in your car are not being burned in your lantern.
Excellent video
Will it helps to run kerosene engine.. ?
White Gas is gasoline without the additives. That's a creative setup, I would use chemistry lab equipment instead and turn on the vent.
Hello, what lab kit would you use, and how to keep the system sealed? Coleman fuel evaporates very quickly and I don't want any to escape but I'm worried about pressure build up. Does the cold water condensing prevent that? Is it safe as long as the collection does not block/cover the hose?Where is the vent to be turned on? Thanks.
Use a swamp cooler.
Paraffin is in countries like England or Australia, no we don't have that here in central america. At least not for sale to the civilian.
What is the temperature when you do this?
Can we use this oil for kerosene lantern?
Simply brilliant!!!
What is left after distilling?
what are the legalities of this
Thanks for the lesson! Great information
Hi, Can I use this white fuel in a coleman lanter?
+Leonardo Fernandez Sure, thats the main idea for doing this, I already tested it and it works perfect.
+miltonSF
thank you very much for taking the time to answer my question
Leonardo Fernandez
con gusto.
@crudeoilsystems Nope, the sound may be the boiling gasoline but no fume extractor here.
@DreamSeekerOne We can say it's pure gasoline, Coleman fuel is a special blend not just pure naphta.
Ordinary Gasoline directly from the gas station, after distilling the result is a like water crystal clear gasoline.
can you use it in a zippo lighter?
yes
wonderful; but is it going to leave black residue? what about the odour?
no black residue, I can't confirm about the odor since I distilled this for use in a gas lantern and havent tried it in lighters, how ever, is better and cheaper to use the real thing and leave this as a final solution for the zombie apocalipse.
yes you are right. i did distill some of it yesterday. it worked fine but the flame was way too hot. and if you let it on for more than three seconds it gets a bit scarry so it is a no go for zippo
In those countries Coleman Fuel is already available so why someone wants to do this? as I mentioned before I did this because in my country is not possible to find it. Thanks anyways for the info about the benzene.
very very clever,thanks for the video.Joe
@outdoorsman535 Ok, from what I've heard, ordinary gas is not very desirable to burn in a stove because you are cooking food so all that crap that is in the gasoline maybe fall or be absorbed by whatever you're cooking, so if you take out all this additives or lead etc, then of course is safer to use in a stove. Definitely yes.
@videojudge1980 Thanks, glad you like it.
Mostly good lab practice if a bit crude. No open flame. However, for a fire and forget system try solar. Less heat,more time. 1000 watts of electric power to produce a little fuel for hours is bad economy. Gas and alcohol have low boiling points. A large metal vessel painted black might do the trick in summer. Worst to worst, aluminum foil crude parabolic mirror.
If it were meant to be burned everyday it would be obvious that the cost benefit would be against me, but taking in count that this is only made to have fuel available in case of an emergency where there is no electric power, then it comes very handy to have this. 😉
Sheesh Doug I only remember leaded fuel in the vaugest sort of way... I was still pretty young when it was phased out.
@halopersin
In the U.S maybe you'll be in trouble trying to do it but here in Costa Rica it aint big deal.
Great video. Thank you for posting this video up :)
@curtludwig
Probably loaded with TEL Curt. Remember back in the day when you could buy red fuel here? Ethyl or TEL blended highy leaded fuel was dyed red.
I think you meant Coleman Fuel is naphtha. Naphthalene (Napthalene) is a solid, and the main ingredient in moth balls, and is also a hydrocarbon. I got the same unsafe feeling watching the video as you, especially the first time he set something down on the counter.
Fumes are kept inside the sistem, that bottle lasts for a very long, long time. Lighter fluid is super duper expensive so even thinking on it hurts my wallet.
BTW, I managed to find real Coleman fuel in gallons so Im using it now.
anyway thanks for the advice.
Hello, I'm planning to set up something like this. I will be using dirty Coleman fuel that evaporates very quickly! This system appears sealed/closed which is what I want. But is there actually a little room where the hose enters the plastic bottle to reduce pressure build up. I want it completely closed but worried about pressure causing an explosion! Thanks for reading.
@TERREWN0 no one I hope, if done correctly theres no reason to expect an accident, and I'm not encouraging anyone to do this as advertised in the vid, if someone lives in the US or UK theres no need to do this cause is easier to get the real stuff but try to get this here in central america. LOL
very cool good work!
You should not be doing that inside. Gasoline fumes are not pleasant and they can easily explode... especially in a small room indoors.
+Mac Tek theres no fumes, it is a closed system and at a very small scale so, even if theres some fumes its gonna be insignificant.
And now.... it's ready to drink !!!!!
Petroleum ether solvent deodorize formula Sher plz
Can't you order bulk naphtha from Mexico or the US in 45 gallon drums. Importing small containers of branded Coleman fuel would be ridiculously expensive as there is a huge markup for the name and packaging. Why put money in their pockets just for the unnecessary privilege.
BOOOOM!!!!
Nevermind, I read further in the comments!
how many people do you think died putting a can of gasoline on a stove, after watching this? lol
jk
like 300 degress celsius
Show me how to make rum.
I did it with Avasva plans.
@BadassCeino Thanks!
@miltonSF NO PROB BROTHER.
gums hummm sure its not cut? lol
Pomegranate juice wow
It aint got any gas in it. Ummmhgggrrmmmmm.
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you know what dude? get a life. what are you? a rocket designer.
FUCKIN AWESOME
You know nothing about motors.
By Distilling the gasoline, you are removing most of the Olefin's & Paraffin's from the gasoline. You are also removing most of the "Heavy Ends" from the gasoline mixture. This means that the new clear gasoline mixture will almost completely vaporize at lower temperatures. Check out the Gasoline Vapor Systems group on Facebook.