The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest (9 C.E.)

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  • @JYT256
    @JYT256 5 років тому +1166

    Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or Varus where Augustus' legions went

  • @Decabus
    @Decabus 8 років тому +8058

    If it was the year 9 how were there already full-grown adults?

    • @Jan_Pan
      @Jan_Pan 8 років тому +484

      lol

    • @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
      @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 8 років тому +58

      Really funny?

    • @OldMrSarvy
      @OldMrSarvy 8 років тому +40

      it was 9 years after jesus was born or died,idk,when he sayd its year 9 he probably meant "the year of the god" witch relates to jesus somehow,and curently the year of the god is 2016

    • @rohanpandey2037
      @rohanpandey2037 8 років тому +63

      I really hope you are kidding

    • @jonasvalfridsson
      @jonasvalfridsson 8 років тому +274

      Yes, that's the joke.

  • @michaelsonsarmiento5943
    @michaelsonsarmiento5943 8 років тому +2080

    What you didn't mention was the commander of the Germans, Arminius, was a German noble educated in Rome. He used Roman tactics against Roman legions. He would be later assassinated by his own family at the age of 37 as he wanted to be King of Germany.

    • @franknada8235
      @franknada8235 6 років тому +34

      ^ underrated comment

    • @kanesmith8271
      @kanesmith8271 5 років тому +119

      @Septic Neuron a win is a win

    • @sol2544
      @sol2544 5 років тому +12

      The first Kaiser? :o

    • @tooley6969
      @tooley6969 4 роки тому +6

      I would say he earned it but apparently he had a demanding family life.

    • @johnbishop9621
      @johnbishop9621 4 роки тому +114

      @Septic Neuron Using the forest as a defense instead of fighting a Roman Legion on an open field, Sep, is tactics. They were better equipped, trained and organized. The Romans knew that entering the forest would lead to battle. It wasn't an ambush, it was a battle.

  • @alexanderschulte8248
    @alexanderschulte8248 8 років тому +3240

    you completely left out Arminius. he masterminded the plot against Varus

    • @Kardia_of_Rhodes
      @Kardia_of_Rhodes 8 років тому +241

      Also the Earthworks that Arminius had the German Tribesmen build.

    • @xelgringoloco2
      @xelgringoloco2 8 років тому +468

      Also that Varus put Arminius in charge of the Romans Auxilliary cavalry (which was made up of mostly Germans) and so when the trap was sprung Arminius led the Auxilliary cavalry to join the German side.

    • @BazBattles
      @BazBattles 8 років тому +350

      He was the real frontman of Germanic defiance, despite his young age he managed to unite several tribes under his command, that was rather impressive, considering ancient Germans usually fought each other. Also, there's animation on my channel covering Teutoburg Forest events, with Arminius playing major role there, not so fine as Historia Civilis's one, but still.

    • @CleversonSantos
      @CleversonSantos 8 років тому +52

      I saw once a documentary that compared the Army Roman like a long snake and the germans cut them to pieces in days I didnt know they made camp and break camp many times...

    • @Vlad-1986
      @Vlad-1986 8 років тому +51

      Not really: This is more about the battle tactics, the historical scenario as a big picture and how the Romans got defeated on a technical note. The history of Arminius is interesting, but has little to do with the subject of this specific video.

  • @degenerate3288
    @degenerate3288 6 років тому +3341

    The Germans were like *WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP*

  • @gamerdude1246
    @gamerdude1246 8 років тому +1330

    No mention of Arminius? He was the mastermind behind all that happened in the Teutoberg forest. He was so involved that he became closely associated to Varus in order to trick him to those traps. If Arminius wasn't there, Rome wouldn't have suffered it's greatest defeat and Germany would be very different.

    • @Owningpostbelow
      @Owningpostbelow 8 років тому +5

      so true!

    • @beageler
      @beageler 8 років тому +40

      +Gamerdude1246 Nah, not that much different. West of the rhine was quite well in roman hands, tons of germans from both sides became auxilliary troops (helping in the fall of rome, mercenaries and stuff), roman culture began to influence the tribes east of the rhine, and the tribes east were christianized (even as far as saxony) not much later than the fall of rome. A couple of centuries of not totally unroman life didn't change that much.

    • @paaatreeeck
      @paaatreeeck 7 років тому +12

      Well in the grand scheme of things one could argue that Cannae was less of a defeat in the sense that the Romans ultimately recovered from it and in the end defeated Carthage. That is of course a very cynical interpretation considering the loss of life, but comparing losses of life against each other is already somewhat morbid.
      Anyways, the consequences of Teutonburg were that the Romans were practically permanently halted in their advance north, said "Fuck it, let's make the empire great again" and built a big ol' spiky wall xd

    • @artemisentreri-isaacs3059
      @artemisentreri-isaacs3059 6 років тому +24

      I'd give Parthia more credit in halting overall expansion. This battle certainly didn't help, but the battles with the Parthians in general were overall a larger sap on Roman forces. Certainly, it dissuaded advancing across a natural barrier for land that was not really worth the effort to take, but to call this Rome's worst ever defeat, or the end of their expansion (which also isn't true actually, although it certainly was not as large in any direction after Augustus anyways) is oversimplification and tunneling too hard.
      It was a great defeat. It demonstrated extreme Roman hubris, but even in that regard, Crassus's slaughter in Parthia is probably a better example of that. It should be celebrated and discussed, but it certainly wasn't the worst Roman defeat, nor the sole reason for not deciding to cross the Rhine in force anymore.

    • @TerrorT2
      @TerrorT2 6 років тому +3

      There are so many details missing..

  • @c182SkylaneRG
    @c182SkylaneRG 5 років тому +358

    William: "You ignored the rules of engagement! In a fair fight, I'd kill you!"
    Jack: "Well that's not much incentive for me to fight fairly, now is it?"

  • @whiteoctober4582
    @whiteoctober4582 7 років тому +2041

    Roses are red,
    Italy has many regions,
    Quintus Varius GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!!

  • @yoloswaggins1579
    @yoloswaggins1579 6 років тому +1644

    "Don't invade Gernania in the year NEIN."
    - Gaius Iulius Caesar

    • @alexanderschulz2100
      @alexanderschulz2100 5 років тому +37

      This one is actually top comment.
      For all of you who dont speak german: nein means no. But sounds like english 9 nine..
      Year 9! Guys that joke is brilliant!

    • @Kriegter
      @Kriegter 5 років тому +26

      Deutschland, Deutschland
      ÜBER ALLES, ÜBER ALLES IN DER WELT

    • @alexanderschulz2100
      @alexanderschulz2100 5 років тому +10

      @@Kriegter ok... Too mutch dude

    • @elgoog-the-third
      @elgoog-the-third 5 років тому +2

      @Jack the Gestapo GerNEINia

    • @Avrelianvs
      @Avrelianvs 4 роки тому

      @@alexanderschulz2100 even after one year everyone hates you for this comment

  • @kylestallings9684
    @kylestallings9684 8 років тому +285

    It's worth mentioning that the Romans also preferred fighting in the open because the Legions fought more effectively that way. A legion could not form properly in dense forests, and also couldn't use the mobility of the legions to their fullest.

    • @samwelltarly6700
      @samwelltarly6700 8 років тому +15

      Anyone would prefer fighting on open ground when they have superior equipment and are campaigning in foreign territory.
      Might as well berate the US for relying on armoured vehicles and aerial bombardment in their wars in the middle-east when they should be counter-terrorising and counter-IEDing whoever they are fighting.
      As far as I can see, these types of ambushes and tactics only get glorified because the victors want to cover up the fact that they only used them because they had not other options at the time. The dead giveaway should be the ending where they berate the loser for his dependence on open-field battles...as if Rome only got this far because everything west of the Rhine is as flat and open as the russian tundra...or the Germans have any significant tradition or skill in ambush warfare (Btw, Arminius, the leader of the Germans, was a roman turn-coat. I wonder where he learned his tactics...)

    • @kylestallings9684
      @kylestallings9684 8 років тому +30

      Samwell Tarly I was not berating Rome, just trying to add on to what they were saying.
      On the other topic, ambushes like this are glorified because they took planning to complete, they were well executed, and also go against what SHOULD have happened. No way would a confederation of German Tribes fuck over Rome like they could here, that's what makes it interesting. The idea of these fierce men fighting for their homeland through inconventional warfare.
      And as victors, the Germanic tribes did NOT write this history, Tacitus did, a Roman historian, no victors "covering up" here.

    • @SilverWolf09100
      @SilverWolf09100 7 років тому +14

      I wouldn't quite call Arminius a Roman turn-coat, he was the son of a German chief and was taken away from his tribe at a young age to be brought up as a Roman, but yeah, he definitely learned Roman tactics and knew how to beat them.

    • @Yeomannn
      @Yeomannn 7 років тому

      Arminius was a 10 cent coward. I hate his guts.

    • @aldricvalentine6817
      @aldricvalentine6817 4 роки тому +2

      @Mike Schnobrich Roman armies are not rigid. Their cohorts are individual units capable of existing on their own. In a straight up fight, Rome would surely win. But as the others have said many times, they fell to treachery and betryal.

  • @jasv49
    @jasv49 7 років тому +2779

    Did Romans ever utilize... y'know, scouts?

  • @Fergus99
    @Fergus99 8 років тому +121

    I love how easy these are to understand and follow. Thanks for making these.

  • @siroeipatsie5233
    @siroeipatsie5233 8 років тому +284

    I love how "Flevoland" a Duch province that was raised from the water is visible on a Roman map.

    • @yannimichaeltone4848
      @yannimichaeltone4848 5 років тому +1

      It's named after a lake right?

    • @boterblok214
      @boterblok214 5 років тому +53

      Youve also never heard of the roman afsluitdijk? It was a great accomplisment of that time!

    • @ezandman6804
      @ezandman6804 5 років тому +8

      @@boterblok214 the aev.sluyt.dykii ?

    • @pupyfan69
      @pupyfan69 5 років тому +17

      it was above water before the medieval warm period

    • @reinatr4848
      @reinatr4848 5 років тому +3

      @@boterblok214 no its asdfjkluafjtk

  • @alfinandy1612
    @alfinandy1612 8 років тому +85

    Your videos are much more sensible and professional than the other similar like this

  • @balsakovacevic8423
    @balsakovacevic8423 8 років тому +26

    the animations and narration are getting so much better.Just don't stop making content.

  • @NcSeNespomnem
    @NcSeNespomnem 8 років тому +225

    Underrated channel

  • @JK_2998
    @JK_2998 8 років тому +176

    Glad you're back, love this channel

  • @marvinteichmann7178
    @marvinteichmann7178 8 років тому +303

    You did not mention, Arminius the german general leading the battle. He had dual citizenship (roman/german), received roman military education and even made it into the rang of officer. In School (Gemany) they taught us, that his cultural and military knowledge of the romans played a huge role in the victories. Only through is insights he could anticipate how the romans would behave and lead them into so many ambushes.

    • @marvinteichmann7178
      @marvinteichmann7178 7 років тому +8

      Well, I finished high-school 6 years ago. So the curriculum might have changed since then. Additionally history teachers in 6th and 7th grade have a bit of freedom on what topics to discuss when talking about the roman empire. So some teacher might choose not to cover the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest or Arminius role in it. I would be rather surprised if there is an explicit law preventing teachers from not taling about Arminius. What makes you think so?

    • @FrogsterLP
      @FrogsterLP 7 років тому +1

      They are still teaching at.

    • @TerenceChiII
      @TerenceChiII 6 років тому

      I finished 5 years ago and it wasn't taught to us...

    • @virvisquevir3320
      @virvisquevir3320 6 років тому +12

      Marvin Teichmann - Because, since WWII, the Germans have been poured so full of guilt that they cannot celebrate any national victory without, somehow, giving the credit to non-Germans. The truth is: Roman expansion stopped there, along the German Rhine, because the German tribes were far too bad ass for them, fierce warriors, intelligent strategists. Have some pride - think for yourself - independent German spirit, wild and free.

    • @headpump
      @headpump 4 роки тому

      "Know thy enemy"

  • @weltgeist2604
    @weltgeist2604 8 років тому +665

    Quintus, ohhhh Quintus Varius GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!!

    • @Jan_Pan
      @Jan_Pan 8 років тому +157

      our troops flee the field of battle, this is a shamefull display!

    • @PotNanny
      @PotNanny 8 років тому +52

      +jan balder Shamefur Dispray!

    • @Bramme1991
      @Bramme1991 8 років тому +5

      Publius Quinctilius Varus. not quintus :p

    • @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
      @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 8 років тому +20

      9 AD Germanic Warriors: This is no longer a battle, this is a hunt. No, a coward chase!"
      1945 AD Hitler: FEGELEIN! Fegelein: what? Hitler: NOTHING!

    • @dukedase7
      @dukedase7 8 років тому +3

      Ex Deo is amazing

  • @MrMexijorge
    @MrMexijorge 8 років тому +478

    Great video man but i only need to say two things you missed:
    1. Varus decided to cross the swarm because that's what arminius (his germanic right hand) convinced him to do
    2. Romans were experts, the best in the world actually, in open field battles that's why Varus trusting in the roman strategies decides to confront the germanic tribes there.

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 8 років тому +5

      +Adonay Rocha the only time they ever lost in open field and every time they fought him, was, what was his name?

    • @johnalexander651
      @johnalexander651 8 років тому +18

      +Greg Miller Hannibal?

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 8 років тому +6

      John Alexander ...that's it...here we got a town named after him and i had a momentary loss of memory....")

    •  8 років тому +10

      +Greg Miller That's a myth actually. The Romans lost plenty of pitched battles. It's just that those weren't advertised.
      Their glory days of seeming invulnerable was when they were beating up disorganised tribes that fielded only untrained peasants defending their homes. Obviously 20.000 fulltime soldiers will defeat a few hundred untrained peasants who only have a weapon and maybe a shield.
      Most encounters on even footing ended in disaster for the Romans. The Batavians owned the Romans repeatedly during their uprising for example. The Batavians of course fielded the former imperial bodyguard as well as professional soldiers from their tribe who'd seen service in the Roman army.

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 8 років тому +3

      Blah b that's probably true..

  • @Awesomsimity
    @Awesomsimity 8 років тому +52

    Thanks so much for being back love all your videos

    • @tagtag123
      @tagtag123 8 років тому

      +Awesomsimity Same

  • @wnevin1626
    @wnevin1626 8 років тому +154

    Keep up the great work. Love these battles, educational and great content.

    • @Guillermoq5
      @Guillermoq5 8 років тому +2

      +Ruck Zuck 0 educational. if it was he would be telling us hours of stories. he is only telling us the good parts!

    • @ej3199
      @ej3199 8 років тому +4

      +Guillermoq5 i learned something new, so it's educational.

  • @liamehrecke7820
    @liamehrecke7820 8 років тому +20

    It's awesome your back! You're one of my favorite channels!

  • @Lazyguy22
    @Lazyguy22 8 років тому +1082

    Rome and Germany - the Cowboys and Indians of classical antiquity.

    • @jasonmartin4775
      @jasonmartin4775 8 років тому +102

      That's probably why Germany is such a strong nation- their ancestors were one of the few to successfully repel Rome.

    • @krillissue
      @krillissue 8 років тому +53

      CHIN CHIN
      *grandma merkel

    • @krillissue
      @krillissue 8 років тому +35

      *****
      It could take 'em but it couldn't hold em'

    • @Turgon92
      @Turgon92 8 років тому +40

      i assume the first superpower where the persians

    • @krillissue
      @krillissue 8 років тому +31

      Turgon92
      Probably, though the eastern continental empires were always quite large.
      If you're talking economic/military superpowers, Egypt/Assyria (respectively) are great places to start.

  • @tinnedtuna8242
    @tinnedtuna8242 8 років тому +301

    Kind of mind blowing to think that this ambush is the reason we're speaking English right now. If Rome ruled Germany then a Romance language would have been spoken by the Saxons or whatever other tribe would have taken their place.

    • @brendanmorgan5155
      @brendanmorgan5155 8 років тому +23

      mindblown

    • @jacksnipur
      @jacksnipur 8 років тому +8

      English comes from latin

    • @brendanmorgan5155
      @brendanmorgan5155 8 років тому +209

      English comes from West Germanic languages, with Latin influences via the French Normans. But it is not a Latin (Romance) language.

    • @sonkew826
      @sonkew826 7 років тому +1

      vikings becoming french?
      ohh, yeah, now i see. i don't think William was being used so much as grabbing power himself but maybe i'm wrong

    • @SuperJuvexxx
      @SuperJuvexxx 7 років тому +41

      +Brendan Morgan english was Also heavily influenced by latin through the roman empire and the catholic church Untill the 16th century. An enormous amount of latin words are used in the english language. Not to mention the enormous amount of english ancient infrastructures and cities (including the capital City london) Who were built by the romans.
      The english language is surely the less germanic of all the germanic languages, it's more like an hybrid.

  • @BaronLipton
    @BaronLipton 8 років тому +27

    absolutely amazing content, keep it up brother

  • @ProjectAdditive
    @ProjectAdditive 8 років тому +31

    omg! about time you made another video. There are so few channels like yours. Thanks man.

    • @magnvsmarcvs
      @magnvsmarcvs 8 років тому

      Name some of those channels ....please .

    • @choppergamer
      @choppergamer 8 років тому +2

      +magnvsmarcvs cgpgrey
      lindybeige
      xidnaf

    • @magnvsmarcvs
      @magnvsmarcvs 8 років тому

      〈Chopper Gamer〉
      thnx

    • @choppergamer
      @choppergamer 8 років тому +1

      magnvsmarcvs but wait theres more
      Objectivity
      GeographyHub
      AlternateHistory
      SEFDScience
      King Crocoduck
      I'll give this thread more when I have the time

    • @erelghania355
      @erelghania355 8 років тому +1

      and Baz battles

  • @ekin4260
    @ekin4260 8 років тому +5

    Glad to see you're back. I've missed your videos.
    Also, 3:00 "My boy Caesar would never have pulled stuff like this."

  • @arforafro5523
    @arforafro5523 8 років тому +2

    Nothing to chill down after a hard day of work like learning about battles from a good history channel, keep up the good work!, people need to learn more about the past and these videos make it very easy to understand and enjoy, would love to have a teacher use this kind of media to teach history back in school.

  • @TheAidiwashere
    @TheAidiwashere 8 років тому +36

    Glad you came back! Noone really does videos like this, please keep them coming!

    • @zachpmorgan
      @zachpmorgan 7 років тому +1

      Lyn, it's a bit late, but "noone" means "no one" en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone
      I don't know why people spell it as "noone," maybe it's easier to type?

    • @TBAYMenace
      @TBAYMenace 4 роки тому

      @@zachpmorgan douchebag, i know its a bit late, but sometimes people hit the wrong key or in this case, Forget to hit the space bar. This is called a typo, ever think of that?

  • @russianbear7832
    @russianbear7832 5 років тому +137

    He protec
    He attac
    But most importantly,
    HE DONT GIVE MA LEGIONS BAC

    • @kapitan19969838
      @kapitan19969838 3 роки тому

      That's not funny

    • @Sinriel
      @Sinriel 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kapitan19969838thank you for your service.

  • @AndresRamirez-fi5uw
    @AndresRamirez-fi5uw 8 років тому +168

    They were sacrificed to the Old Gods.

    • @holdinmcgroin8639
      @holdinmcgroin8639 8 років тому +34

      Time for a Great Blot :DD

    • @AndresRamirez-fi5uw
      @AndresRamirez-fi5uw 8 років тому +1

      ***** but it said they were tied to trees and then executed no? wouldnt that be the Old Gods?

    • @AndresRamirez-fi5uw
      @AndresRamirez-fi5uw 8 років тому +3

      ***** oh lol xD i see, i guys they were sacrificed to the Lord of Light then lol

    • @sassycassgames3158
      @sassycassgames3158 8 років тому +4

      I left my blöt button at home! dammit

    • @LV_427
      @LV_427 8 років тому +3

      They were sacrificed to Thor, to be accurate.

  • @crclayton
    @crclayton 8 років тому +3

    Always hard to watch a defeat! But equally important. Thanks for another video, these are great.

  • @justinvyvyan-jones
    @justinvyvyan-jones 8 років тому +14

    *wanders around house beating head against walls* "Oh, Historia Civilis! Give me my Arminius!"

  • @Yarenoglu
    @Yarenoglu 8 років тому +586

    He was an honourable man, and he was murdered for it. Reminds me of Game of Thrones for some reason.

    • @leekeater1527
      @leekeater1527 8 років тому +33

      +TC Greywolf (“Turkcu”) No, he was just stupid.

    • @Yarenoglu
      @Yarenoglu 8 років тому +241

      l'Entité Humaine He was a commander, and people came to him asking for help for an uprising. He took his troops to try and defend them. Even when he got ambushed, he wanted to keep his promise to the tribesmen, and carried on going north to supress the uprising. He could have said fuck this and go west to safety, but he was a man of his word. He did what he thought was right, and he got killed for it.

    • @DBeiki
      @DBeiki 8 років тому +182

      +TC “Turkcu” Greywolf
      Varus Fought valiantly, Varus fought nobly, Varus fought honorably.
      And Varus died.

    • @malikbenslimane2873
      @malikbenslimane2873 8 років тому +80

      Do you remember this lines
      "You fight with no honor"
      "He did"

    • @AZ25231
      @AZ25231 8 років тому +53

      +l'Entité Humaine Well you have to remember that Varus could not have been nearly as stupid as Tacitus made him out to be, because Tacitus was writing in a time when Rome was dominated by emperors who wanted to distance themselves as much as possible from the disaster. There is something similar that occurs with Crassus and Carrhae. Also, Varus was not inexperienced; he had saved an army in Alexandria a few years before.

  • @robertbaratheon2193
    @robertbaratheon2193 8 років тому +8

    YES!!! He's back and with an awesome topic!!!!

  • @unstablepc5913
    @unstablepc5913 8 років тому +376

    Germans be like: "GET OUT O MAH SWAMP"

  • @filip999t
    @filip999t 8 років тому +40

    That is some red wedding type of conspiracy.

  • @viraatkumar8980
    @viraatkumar8980 2 роки тому

    I keep coming back to this channel every few months..even tho in the stories..the videos still so fun to watch

  • @whyjon2990
    @whyjon2990 Рік тому +11

    Coming to this after watching the ceasar playlist and the unfinished octavia playlist feels like i skipped 2 seasons of an anime.

  • @DarthMeteos
    @DarthMeteos 4 роки тому +6

    Publius: I marched my whole army into a swamp between hills.
    Caesar: That's not very red box of you.

  • @twofacesa
    @twofacesa 8 років тому +5

    Another great video. Should have mentioned the quote from Augustus after hearing of the defeat though! "Quintili Vare, legiones redde!“ ('Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!')

  • @pizzaface117
    @pizzaface117 8 років тому +46

    I wish this could be made into a movie B>

    • @Beef8Cake
      @Beef8Cake 8 років тому +2

      That is the best idea, ever.

    • @dirtybirdy572
      @dirtybirdy572 8 років тому

      it would be cold hell all the way through

    • @notsoginger
      @notsoginger 8 років тому +3

      Centurion (2010) has a scene that is loosely based on this ambush. its even in the trailer

    • @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
      @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 8 років тому +2

      Kevin Donnelly
      Wrong timeline, it's loosing based on disappeared of ninth legion in Caledonia(today U.K,Scotland).

    • @Ulises2099
      @Ulises2099 6 років тому

      Barbarian Rising chapters 4 & 5 is about Arminius..

  • @lfortg
    @lfortg 8 років тому +1

    Brilliant, thank you so much for all this great videos. I'm glad you are back!

  • @chinemapictures
    @chinemapictures Рік тому

    I was telling my partner about what I’ve learned from your channel ! Thank you for your great work

  • @Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo
    @Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo 8 років тому +118

    You sir deserve a millions subs :)

    • @Mario46er
      @Mario46er 8 років тому +37

      +Bilge Khan small loan of a million subs

    • @M_Chen333
      @M_Chen333 7 років тому

      A billion!!!

    • @Demicleas
      @Demicleas 7 років тому

      Then you wach bazbattles version that has more facts and better evrething so ya other then the cav

    • @janstefanisin320
      @janstefanisin320 3 місяці тому

      well

  • @leonidaspantazis6495
    @leonidaspantazis6495 8 років тому +62

    Actually the reason that Varus lost the battle, was because of his co - officer Armenius. Armenius was the prince of a germanic tribe and even if he was a roman high rank officer he hated Rome and wanted to free his country. While heading North Varus learned about a conspiracy between Armenius and the leaders of many german tribes, so he changed his plans a peaked an alternate and aknown route for his troops. In reality he actually send calvary scouts to check for ambushes, while he was passing through the forest. It was a standard way in the roman army when he was moving into an aknown territory. Thow he didn't know that Armenius had the control of the calvary and the reason he was left wasn't to bring help, but for meeting his troops with the germans in the forest. Remember that scout calvary .. Well they were the first to charge against the Romans.. the rest of the battle was a complite disaster with Varus killing himself and the rest of the army slaughtered in the battlefield. The myth says that after the battle, Armenius found the body of Varus and cut his head to send it to another german leader that didn't want to join his know united germanic state.

  • @kolnkalkverbot4292
    @kolnkalkverbot4292 8 років тому +141

    That is historical incorect.
    1) Varus had have outer flanks but the switched side
    2) Romans didn´t fight in open fields for honor. They fight because it was their best way to fight. I mean USA likes deserts because they can use their tanks and planes. Not because they like one to one battle and see their enemie.
    3) they romans didnt marched in this patterns. In this area you could only march in 3-4mans rows. their trail was 10-20km long. And germans used hit and run tactics
    4) You forget that their were always alot of civilians with the army
    5) you forget that the romans leave the civilians behind at day 4
    6) the last fight you get totally wrong. It was a lake and forest. The germans built a wall a long the forest an hide there.
    So one hand wall other hand lake. Between them two only small space

    • @lolotroll2
      @lolotroll2 8 років тому +3

      +Köln Kalk Verbot USA USA USA

    • @evan448
      @evan448 8 років тому +3

      Yeah certainly the Romans would have preferred open field so that they could keep organized ranks and I imagine javelins are for more effective against a grouped up enemy in open country than a spread out force in Forrest

    • @metalfuk1
      @metalfuk1 8 років тому +20

      +Köln Kalk Verbot Your english is awful.

    • @AZ25231
      @AZ25231 8 років тому +2

      But what would that help the Germanic tribes with? Nowadays archeologists suspect the Roman rearguard built it.

    • @AZ25231
      @AZ25231 8 років тому

      +Andrew Gu I mean the wall, by the way

  • @SeanHH1986
    @SeanHH1986 8 років тому

    your channel is so awesome dude. I gave up on finding stuff about Roman history on UA-cam beyond history channel vhs rips lol. I wrote my thesis when I attempted college about this battle so when I saw this it warmed my cold heart.

  • @RaceChapman
    @RaceChapman 8 років тому +5

    dude your videos are honestly outstanding. if history classes were taught like this in high school we'd all be experts by the time we graduated. i don't know if it's your pacing, the way you explain things, the simple yet informative animations, or all of the above, but these videos are all excellent.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 8 років тому +7

    I always wondered what might have happened if there had been a commander who was both a skilled diplomat and a skilled tactician there instead of Varus. This was a disaster that could have been avoided.

  • @baguettispaghetti8317
    @baguettispaghetti8317 8 років тому +5

    Another thing, during the first engagement the Romans couldn't return fire at first. Each legionary would carry their pila and fortification equipment slung over their shoulder in a bundle. When they first came under fire, their immediate reaction was drop the bundle, raise your scutum, and draw your gladius. The lack of initial return fire led to even more deaths for the Romans in the initial engagement.

  • @justuswesterhold9799
    @justuswesterhold9799 8 років тому +33

    Maybe my view on this is a bit biased, as I come from Germany, however I think that you really missed out on a big part of this battle, namely Arminius who was somewhat the German commander after betraying Rome.
    Anyways, keep up the great work!!!

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 3 роки тому +2

      i think that was on purpose. It would have just sprung the scope of this video. He just wanted to talk about the battle itself and not the whole conspiracy that made it possible. I wouldnt wonder if he tells the whole story of arminius one day.
      Als die Römer frech geworden... simserimsimsim

  • @ic3m4nx69
    @ic3m4nx69 8 років тому +2

    Seems like scheming paid off in the end for the Germanic tribes. If Varus wasn't panicked by news of the northern revolt, he probably would have taken a more level-headed approach to not only traveling north but crossing the swamp as well. Amazing how powerful disinformation can be, even on an ancient battle field. Love your videos, man! Keep up the great content. This is my favorite youtube channel!

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @williezhang1250
    @williezhang1250 8 років тому +34

    And back to some Total Rome II...

  • @Deukish
    @Deukish 8 років тому +5

    Wish you covered more of the personal history surrounding Varus. Such as the dispute between Arminius and his uncle Segestes (who tried to warn Varus of the uprising and later got revenge by helping murder Arminius)

  • @hawk0485
    @hawk0485 8 років тому +6

    Clear logic without useless baggage and solid animation, great work!

  • @DQ9Ftw
    @DQ9Ftw 8 років тому

    This is one of the best channels on youtube. Keep it up.

  • @JCBPARISPARIS
    @JCBPARISPARIS 8 років тому

    thanks uploading your video.Great job. we need people like you.

  • @Pauliuk112
    @Pauliuk112 8 років тому +9

    Wait, didn't have Arminius and his auxiliary cavalry also something to do with this mess?

  • @TheDutchPhysicist
    @TheDutchPhysicist 8 років тому +11

    could you also make some about the caliphs and mohammads battles

    • @TheDutchPhysicist
      @TheDutchPhysicist 8 років тому +2

      +Sebastiaan van Rijk like battle of yarmouk

    • @AFGalwayz
      @AFGalwayz 8 років тому

      +Sebastiaan van Rijk that would be awesome. there are also interesting battles like the battle of parwan where the mongols were defeated (at least temporarily) in what is now afghanistan. if you look at the circumstances surrounding the battle, its literally game of thrones level madness.

  • @WholesomeLiberal1998
    @WholesomeLiberal1998 7 років тому +4

    So no mention of the heavy taxation and romanization that lead to the betrayal in the first place? Such a scenario was a similar setting to Boudicca's revolt.

  • @NeoNietzsche101
    @NeoNietzsche101 8 років тому +2

    I love all your Videos of these battleformations. Bless you and make more of it pretty please!

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 8 років тому

    watching these videos is the only time I enjoy learning something related to history

  • @MakoTheFrog
    @MakoTheFrog 8 років тому +95

    He was like the Dj Khaled of building encampments...another one...another one.

    • @mpconbeer
      @mpconbeer 8 років тому +23

      Except all DJ Khaled does is win. Varus, not so much.

    • @BoilingHotCoffee
      @BoilingHotCoffee 7 років тому +8

      congrats Varus
      you just played yourself

    • @PRubin-rh4sr
      @PRubin-rh4sr 6 років тому +6

      You should see Caesar's escapades, it's 70% fort and wall building

  • @dieke8978
    @dieke8978 3 роки тому +5

    0:09 I know this is a really stupid small thing, but often in videos about history people use modern maps, which usually is okay, but that's very much not what the Netherlands looked like 2 millennia ago

  • @jvkstudios
    @jvkstudios 4 роки тому +7

    This multi-day battle would be great for the Netflix series. But of course that would mean less time for the love triangle I guess.
    (Love Barbarians still, and of course this channel too)

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 3 роки тому +2

      things like Cuties are just so much more culturally important, that Netflix priorities them over some dusty old roman shit. Who needs that, am I right?
      /s

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Рік тому

      Idris Elba will play Arminius.
      They would've given the role to Denzel Washington, but he's already playing Hannibal...

  • @srujanpalkar1
    @srujanpalkar1 8 років тому +1

    Please keep making more videos!!! They're amazing!!!

  • @criztu
    @criztu 8 років тому

    I like your video of the glorious Romans fighting the treacherous Germans, especially how you drew the evergreen trees. And the squares and the ovals, they're perfect, you're really talented.

  • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
    @MilitaryHistoryVisualized 8 років тому +20

    sources?

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 7 років тому +3

    7:13 - It was at this moment Varus knew he f...d up.

  • @raneronny1642
    @raneronny1642 8 років тому +8

    "He made his men make another fortified encampent" I loved it when you said that

  • @TurulHEMA
    @TurulHEMA 7 років тому

    This channel is simply fantastic! More than earned my subscription. Keep them coming!

  • @00Mongol
    @00Mongol 8 років тому

    Wow, your production is noticeably improved in this video! Happy to see it, along side this great look at one of Rome's greatest defeats.

  • @calibrenovel311
    @calibrenovel311 5 років тому +6

    "Varus, give me back my legions!"

  • @Dan-jj2vr
    @Dan-jj2vr 7 років тому +3

    To the people who made this video: I really appreciate the humor, you never hear good history jokes anymore

  • @imperialrenaissance8091
    @imperialrenaissance8091 8 років тому +7

    where is Arminius? you forgot him!

  • @Neural-Awakening
    @Neural-Awakening 8 років тому

    Found this today, Thank you for taking your time making these videos.

  • @k9cheese
    @k9cheese 8 років тому

    I get excited every time i see a new video from you man great work.

  • @mickruijgt720
    @mickruijgt720 8 років тому +4

    great video plzz do more

  • @Davidh41690
    @Davidh41690 8 років тому +4

    "Varus, give me back my legions"

  • @yuzhouxingzhe
    @yuzhouxingzhe 8 років тому +3

    Please please please please please please PLEASE do the Battle of Pharsalus!

  • @hoangnamld
    @hoangnamld 8 років тому

    I chipped in as soon as I saw your patreon is active again. Good work, man.

  • @explodingwolfgaming8024
    @explodingwolfgaming8024 8 років тому

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR FOREVER

  • @sol2544
    @sol2544 5 років тому +4

    Me: "oh wow, I love how the germans were so kind letting Romans in, man, they must have made great alli-
    ....
    ...oh"

  • @a.h.tvideomapping4293
    @a.h.tvideomapping4293 4 роки тому +3

    Somebody should ask Tribune Aquila if Quintis Varus can give back his legions

  • @ThePrestd
    @ThePrestd 7 років тому +42

    Not even one mention of Arminius in the entire video.... Like how can you leave out the key character in this battle and still call it history

    • @reinatr4848
      @reinatr4848 5 років тому

      He is reluctant to give names.

  • @Devildoge532
    @Devildoge532 8 років тому

    Very well put together episode, thank you for sharing.

  • @seiban8455
    @seiban8455 8 років тому

    It's just so great when you can go into the description of a video and find the music used.

  • @Corristo89
    @Corristo89 8 років тому +17

    To be fair, the Romans crucified their fallen and soon to be dead enemies as well. Thousands of crucifixes lined the Via Appia when the Roman legions slaughtered the rebelling slaves under Spartacus and thousands of rebelling Jews were crucified after the three Roman-Jewish wars.
    There's just no better "Don't fuck with us!" sign than displaying the tortured corpses of your enemies ;-) And the Germans knew that too.

    • @swevixeh
      @swevixeh 3 роки тому

      Not to mention their genocides in Gaul. This wasn't just a fight for freedom and survival, but also poetic justice.

  • @gaiusjuliuspleaser
    @gaiusjuliuspleaser 8 років тому +3

    Very good video! I knew about the battle but never in much detail. I had no idea that Varus sent off 10 cohorts, or that there had been several encampments during the four days of ambushes.

  • @flapperf4237
    @flapperf4237 8 років тому +3

    How about battle of Carrhae?

  • @Dakka1968
    @Dakka1968 7 років тому

    love your channel, been a total war fan for years, got me into history at an early age

  • @IIAndersII
    @IIAndersII 8 років тому

    glad to see you are back :) really enjoy your videos!

  • @onewhosaysgoose4831
    @onewhosaysgoose4831 4 роки тому +4

    "I will send a well educated German Prince to leaderless germania" -The Man responsible for the battle of the teuteburg forest.

    • @Shoes51
      @Shoes51 4 роки тому

      Well he had been romanized since childhood, I guess he was a good actor lol

  • @WorgenGrrl
    @WorgenGrrl 8 років тому +3

    The most famous legend goes that upon hearing of the Battle of Teutoburg Forest, Augustus Caesar was so shaken that he would wander the halls of his palace and shouted over and over again..."Quintili Vare, legiones redde!“ ('Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!')

  • @BENCMEN
    @BENCMEN 4 роки тому +8

    Who's here after the trailer 'Barbarians' on Netflix?

  • @mattwest5647
    @mattwest5647 8 років тому

    Great video as always, glad you're making them again.

  • @inside-left
    @inside-left Рік тому

    Ive learned more about Rome and its political structure including leading state leaders and notable battles than from any other source. Absolutely brilliant. Evey history teacher who teaches classical Rome should show these videos