The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest (9 C.E.)
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If it was the year 9 how were there already full-grown adults?
lol
Really funny?
it was 9 years after jesus was born or died,idk,when he sayd its year 9 he probably meant "the year of the god" witch relates to jesus somehow,and curently the year of the god is 2016
I really hope you are kidding
Yes, that's the joke.
Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or Varus where Augustus' legions went
The Germans were like *WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP*
Germans are like onions, they’ve got layers.
GET OUT OF MY SWAMP!
-Shrek
@@auhsojmai8566 I didn't know shrek had an army
Copied.
Hahaha "you and what army?"
What you didn't mention was the commander of the Germans, Arminius, was a German noble educated in Rome. He used Roman tactics against Roman legions. He would be later assassinated by his own family at the age of 37 as he wanted to be King of Germany.
^ underrated comment
@Septic Neuron a win is a win
The first Kaiser? :o
I would say he earned it but apparently he had a demanding family life.
@Septic Neuron Using the forest as a defense instead of fighting a Roman Legion on an open field, Sep, is tactics. They were better equipped, trained and organized. The Romans knew that entering the forest would lead to battle. It wasn't an ambush, it was a battle.
you completely left out Arminius. he masterminded the plot against Varus
Also the Earthworks that Arminius had the German Tribesmen build.
Also that Varus put Arminius in charge of the Romans Auxilliary cavalry (which was made up of mostly Germans) and so when the trap was sprung Arminius led the Auxilliary cavalry to join the German side.
He was the real frontman of Germanic defiance, despite his young age he managed to unite several tribes under his command, that was rather impressive, considering ancient Germans usually fought each other. Also, there's animation on my channel covering Teutoburg Forest events, with Arminius playing major role there, not so fine as Historia Civilis's one, but still.
I saw once a documentary that compared the Army Roman like a long snake and the germans cut them to pieces in days I didnt know they made camp and break camp many times...
Not really: This is more about the battle tactics, the historical scenario as a big picture and how the Romans got defeated on a technical note. The history of Arminius is interesting, but has little to do with the subject of this specific video.
Roses are red,
Italy has many regions,
Quintus Varius GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!!
Joker0002710 Varius: No
Lol
Varus*
Really late but that was just awful.
HORUS, GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!! - God Emperor, warhammer universe
"Don't invade Gernania in the year NEIN."
- Gaius Iulius Caesar
This one is actually top comment.
For all of you who dont speak german: nein means no. But sounds like english 9 nine..
Year 9! Guys that joke is brilliant!
Deutschland, Deutschland
ÜBER ALLES, ÜBER ALLES IN DER WELT
@@Kriegter ok... Too mutch dude
@Jack the Gestapo GerNEINia
@@alexanderschulz2100 even after one year everyone hates you for this comment
No mention of Arminius? He was the mastermind behind all that happened in the Teutoberg forest. He was so involved that he became closely associated to Varus in order to trick him to those traps. If Arminius wasn't there, Rome wouldn't have suffered it's greatest defeat and Germany would be very different.
so true!
+Gamerdude1246 Nah, not that much different. West of the rhine was quite well in roman hands, tons of germans from both sides became auxilliary troops (helping in the fall of rome, mercenaries and stuff), roman culture began to influence the tribes east of the rhine, and the tribes east were christianized (even as far as saxony) not much later than the fall of rome. A couple of centuries of not totally unroman life didn't change that much.
Well in the grand scheme of things one could argue that Cannae was less of a defeat in the sense that the Romans ultimately recovered from it and in the end defeated Carthage. That is of course a very cynical interpretation considering the loss of life, but comparing losses of life against each other is already somewhat morbid.
Anyways, the consequences of Teutonburg were that the Romans were practically permanently halted in their advance north, said "Fuck it, let's make the empire great again" and built a big ol' spiky wall xd
I'd give Parthia more credit in halting overall expansion. This battle certainly didn't help, but the battles with the Parthians in general were overall a larger sap on Roman forces. Certainly, it dissuaded advancing across a natural barrier for land that was not really worth the effort to take, but to call this Rome's worst ever defeat, or the end of their expansion (which also isn't true actually, although it certainly was not as large in any direction after Augustus anyways) is oversimplification and tunneling too hard.
It was a great defeat. It demonstrated extreme Roman hubris, but even in that regard, Crassus's slaughter in Parthia is probably a better example of that. It should be celebrated and discussed, but it certainly wasn't the worst Roman defeat, nor the sole reason for not deciding to cross the Rhine in force anymore.
There are so many details missing..
William: "You ignored the rules of engagement! In a fair fight, I'd kill you!"
Jack: "Well that's not much incentive for me to fight fairly, now is it?"
@JZ's Best Friend One and the same! :)
I understood that reference!
Did Romans ever utilize... y'know, scouts?
Caesar usually did.
wat r scoots !
JazzMan That's cheating!
they should have watched their backs from dirty traitors... especially one dirty traitor who till today is seen as a hero in germany.
+SuperJuvexxx Keep crying
It's worth mentioning that the Romans also preferred fighting in the open because the Legions fought more effectively that way. A legion could not form properly in dense forests, and also couldn't use the mobility of the legions to their fullest.
Anyone would prefer fighting on open ground when they have superior equipment and are campaigning in foreign territory.
Might as well berate the US for relying on armoured vehicles and aerial bombardment in their wars in the middle-east when they should be counter-terrorising and counter-IEDing whoever they are fighting.
As far as I can see, these types of ambushes and tactics only get glorified because the victors want to cover up the fact that they only used them because they had not other options at the time. The dead giveaway should be the ending where they berate the loser for his dependence on open-field battles...as if Rome only got this far because everything west of the Rhine is as flat and open as the russian tundra...or the Germans have any significant tradition or skill in ambush warfare (Btw, Arminius, the leader of the Germans, was a roman turn-coat. I wonder where he learned his tactics...)
Samwell Tarly I was not berating Rome, just trying to add on to what they were saying.
On the other topic, ambushes like this are glorified because they took planning to complete, they were well executed, and also go against what SHOULD have happened. No way would a confederation of German Tribes fuck over Rome like they could here, that's what makes it interesting. The idea of these fierce men fighting for their homeland through inconventional warfare.
And as victors, the Germanic tribes did NOT write this history, Tacitus did, a Roman historian, no victors "covering up" here.
I wouldn't quite call Arminius a Roman turn-coat, he was the son of a German chief and was taken away from his tribe at a young age to be brought up as a Roman, but yeah, he definitely learned Roman tactics and knew how to beat them.
Arminius was a 10 cent coward. I hate his guts.
@Mike Schnobrich Roman armies are not rigid. Their cohorts are individual units capable of existing on their own. In a straight up fight, Rome would surely win. But as the others have said many times, they fell to treachery and betryal.
Quintus, ohhhh Quintus Varius GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!!
our troops flee the field of battle, this is a shamefull display!
+jan balder Shamefur Dispray!
Publius Quinctilius Varus. not quintus :p
9 AD Germanic Warriors: This is no longer a battle, this is a hunt. No, a coward chase!"
1945 AD Hitler: FEGELEIN! Fegelein: what? Hitler: NOTHING!
Ex Deo is amazing
I love how "Flevoland" a Duch province that was raised from the water is visible on a Roman map.
It's named after a lake right?
Youve also never heard of the roman afsluitdijk? It was a great accomplisment of that time!
@@boterblok214 the aev.sluyt.dykii ?
it was above water before the medieval warm period
@@boterblok214 no its asdfjkluafjtk
Rome and Germany - the Cowboys and Indians of classical antiquity.
That's probably why Germany is such a strong nation- their ancestors were one of the few to successfully repel Rome.
CHIN CHIN
*grandma merkel
*****
It could take 'em but it couldn't hold em'
i assume the first superpower where the persians
Turgon92
Probably, though the eastern continental empires were always quite large.
If you're talking economic/military superpowers, Egypt/Assyria (respectively) are great places to start.
You did not mention, Arminius the german general leading the battle. He had dual citizenship (roman/german), received roman military education and even made it into the rang of officer. In School (Gemany) they taught us, that his cultural and military knowledge of the romans played a huge role in the victories. Only through is insights he could anticipate how the romans would behave and lead them into so many ambushes.
Well, I finished high-school 6 years ago. So the curriculum might have changed since then. Additionally history teachers in 6th and 7th grade have a bit of freedom on what topics to discuss when talking about the roman empire. So some teacher might choose not to cover the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest or Arminius role in it. I would be rather surprised if there is an explicit law preventing teachers from not taling about Arminius. What makes you think so?
They are still teaching at.
I finished 5 years ago and it wasn't taught to us...
Marvin Teichmann - Because, since WWII, the Germans have been poured so full of guilt that they cannot celebrate any national victory without, somehow, giving the credit to non-Germans. The truth is: Roman expansion stopped there, along the German Rhine, because the German tribes were far too bad ass for them, fierce warriors, intelligent strategists. Have some pride - think for yourself - independent German spirit, wild and free.
"Know thy enemy"
Kind of mind blowing to think that this ambush is the reason we're speaking English right now. If Rome ruled Germany then a Romance language would have been spoken by the Saxons or whatever other tribe would have taken their place.
mindblown
English comes from latin
English comes from West Germanic languages, with Latin influences via the French Normans. But it is not a Latin (Romance) language.
vikings becoming french?
ohh, yeah, now i see. i don't think William was being used so much as grabbing power himself but maybe i'm wrong
+Brendan Morgan english was Also heavily influenced by latin through the roman empire and the catholic church Untill the 16th century. An enormous amount of latin words are used in the english language. Not to mention the enormous amount of english ancient infrastructures and cities (including the capital City london) Who were built by the romans.
The english language is surely the less germanic of all the germanic languages, it's more like an hybrid.
Underrated channel
Great video man but i only need to say two things you missed:
1. Varus decided to cross the swarm because that's what arminius (his germanic right hand) convinced him to do
2. Romans were experts, the best in the world actually, in open field battles that's why Varus trusting in the roman strategies decides to confront the germanic tribes there.
+Adonay Rocha the only time they ever lost in open field and every time they fought him, was, what was his name?
+Greg Miller Hannibal?
John Alexander ...that's it...here we got a town named after him and i had a momentary loss of memory....")
+Greg Miller That's a myth actually. The Romans lost plenty of pitched battles. It's just that those weren't advertised.
Their glory days of seeming invulnerable was when they were beating up disorganised tribes that fielded only untrained peasants defending their homes. Obviously 20.000 fulltime soldiers will defeat a few hundred untrained peasants who only have a weapon and maybe a shield.
Most encounters on even footing ended in disaster for the Romans. The Batavians owned the Romans repeatedly during their uprising for example. The Batavians of course fielded the former imperial bodyguard as well as professional soldiers from their tribe who'd seen service in the Roman army.
Blah b that's probably true..
Your videos are much more sensible and professional than the other similar like this
Shame there was no mention of Arminius, the mastermind of it all. He was the one who planned it all right under Varus's nose, and was commander of the auxilliary German cavalry.
Traitor you mean
@@brentblackwolf6325 I mean, he was kidnapped as a child. You can debate if facing one's captors is treachery.
You are talking about treason! Arminius technically was a traitor who orchestrated an ambush of an army who had faith in him!
@@MrFsfda he was not kidnapped, he was given to the romans by his family!
@@andreasperelli3967 it was forced to do so*
I love how easy these are to understand and follow. Thanks for making these.
Glad you're back, love this channel
He protec
He attac
But most importantly,
HE DONT GIVE MA LEGIONS BAC
That's not funny
*wanders around house beating head against walls* "Oh, Historia Civilis! Give me my Arminius!"
Keep up the great work. Love these battles, educational and great content.
+Ruck Zuck 0 educational. if it was he would be telling us hours of stories. he is only telling us the good parts!
+Guillermoq5 i learned something new, so it's educational.
the animations and narration are getting so much better.Just don't stop making content.
He was an honourable man, and he was murdered for it. Reminds me of Game of Thrones for some reason.
+TC Greywolf (“Turkcu”) No, he was just stupid.
l'Entité Humaine He was a commander, and people came to him asking for help for an uprising. He took his troops to try and defend them. Even when he got ambushed, he wanted to keep his promise to the tribesmen, and carried on going north to supress the uprising. He could have said fuck this and go west to safety, but he was a man of his word. He did what he thought was right, and he got killed for it.
+TC “Turkcu” Greywolf
Varus Fought valiantly, Varus fought nobly, Varus fought honorably.
And Varus died.
Do you remember this lines
"You fight with no honor"
"He did"
+l'Entité Humaine Well you have to remember that Varus could not have been nearly as stupid as Tacitus made him out to be, because Tacitus was writing in a time when Rome was dominated by emperors who wanted to distance themselves as much as possible from the disaster. There is something similar that occurs with Crassus and Carrhae. Also, Varus was not inexperienced; he had saved an army in Alexandria a few years before.
absolutely amazing content, keep it up brother
Thanks so much for being back love all your videos
+Awesomsimity Same
It's awesome your back! You're one of my favorite channels!
That is some red wedding type of conspiracy.
King in the N- Oh wait...
Brilliant, thank you so much for all this great videos. I'm glad you are back!
Glad you came back! Noone really does videos like this, please keep them coming!
Lyn, it's a bit late, but "noone" means "no one" en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone
I don't know why people spell it as "noone," maybe it's easier to type?
@@zachpmorgan douchebag, i know its a bit late, but sometimes people hit the wrong key or in this case, Forget to hit the space bar. This is called a typo, ever think of that?
omg! about time you made another video. There are so few channels like yours. Thanks man.
Name some of those channels ....please .
+magnvsmarcvs cgpgrey
lindybeige
xidnaf
〈Chopper Gamer〉
thnx
magnvsmarcvs but wait theres more
Objectivity
GeographyHub
AlternateHistory
SEFDScience
King Crocoduck
I'll give this thread more when I have the time
and Baz battles
That is historical incorect.
1) Varus had have outer flanks but the switched side
2) Romans didn´t fight in open fields for honor. They fight because it was their best way to fight. I mean USA likes deserts because they can use their tanks and planes. Not because they like one to one battle and see their enemie.
3) they romans didnt marched in this patterns. In this area you could only march in 3-4mans rows. their trail was 10-20km long. And germans used hit and run tactics
4) You forget that their were always alot of civilians with the army
5) you forget that the romans leave the civilians behind at day 4
6) the last fight you get totally wrong. It was a lake and forest. The germans built a wall a long the forest an hide there.
So one hand wall other hand lake. Between them two only small space
+Köln Kalk Verbot USA USA USA
Yeah certainly the Romans would have preferred open field so that they could keep organized ranks and I imagine javelins are for more effective against a grouped up enemy in open country than a spread out force in Forrest
+Köln Kalk Verbot Your english is awful.
But what would that help the Germanic tribes with? Nowadays archeologists suspect the Roman rearguard built it.
+Andrew Gu I mean the wall, by the way
Great video as always, glad you're making them again.
Glad to see you're back. I've missed your videos.
Also, 3:00 "My boy Caesar would never have pulled stuff like this."
YES!!! He's back and with an awesome topic!!!!
Very well put together episode, thank you for sharing.
this was incredible. thank you for your videos.
Germans be like: "GET OUT O MAH SWAMP"
best comment of the video! by far
Shrek = German confirmed?
You sir deserve a millions subs :)
+Bilge Khan small loan of a million subs
A billion!!!
Then you wach bazbattles version that has more facts and better evrething so ya other then the cav
thanks uploading your video.Great job. we need people like you.
Found this today, Thank you for taking your time making these videos.
I wish this could be made into a movie B>
That is the best idea, ever.
it would be cold hell all the way through
Centurion (2010) has a scene that is loosely based on this ambush. its even in the trailer
Kevin Donnelly
Wrong timeline, it's loosing based on disappeared of ninth legion in Caledonia(today U.K,Scotland).
Barbarian Rising chapters 4 & 5 is about Arminius..
They were sacrificed to the Old Gods.
Time for a Great Blot :DD
***** but it said they were tied to trees and then executed no? wouldnt that be the Old Gods?
***** oh lol xD i see, i guys they were sacrificed to the Lord of Light then lol
I left my blöt button at home! dammit
They were sacrificed to Thor, to be accurate.
Nothing to chill down after a hard day of work like learning about battles from a good history channel, keep up the good work!, people need to learn more about the past and these videos make it very easy to understand and enjoy, would love to have a teacher use this kind of media to teach history back in school.
Please keep making more videos!!! They're amazing!!!
Publius: I marched my whole army into a swamp between hills.
Caesar: That's not very red box of you.
Maybe my view on this is a bit biased, as I come from Germany, however I think that you really missed out on a big part of this battle, namely Arminius who was somewhat the German commander after betraying Rome.
Anyways, keep up the great work!!!
i think that was on purpose. It would have just sprung the scope of this video. He just wanted to talk about the battle itself and not the whole conspiracy that made it possible. I wouldnt wonder if he tells the whole story of arminius one day.
Als die Römer frech geworden... simserimsimsim
Great to see more of your videos. Truly awesome work and very educating. I hope to see more stuff in the future.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR FOREVER
Coming to this after watching the ceasar playlist and the unfinished octavia playlist feels like i skipped 2 seasons of an anime.
And back to some Total Rome II...
rome I
Berserkers of Rome 1
Europa Barbarorum**
I'' have some TW attila for me 🙃
Always hard to watch a defeat! But equally important. Thanks for another video, these are great.
I get excited every time i see a new video from you man great work.
Actually the reason that Varus lost the battle, was because of his co - officer Armenius. Armenius was the prince of a germanic tribe and even if he was a roman high rank officer he hated Rome and wanted to free his country. While heading North Varus learned about a conspiracy between Armenius and the leaders of many german tribes, so he changed his plans a peaked an alternate and aknown route for his troops. In reality he actually send calvary scouts to check for ambushes, while he was passing through the forest. It was a standard way in the roman army when he was moving into an aknown territory. Thow he didn't know that Armenius had the control of the calvary and the reason he was left wasn't to bring help, but for meeting his troops with the germans in the forest. Remember that scout calvary .. Well they were the first to charge against the Romans.. the rest of the battle was a complite disaster with Varus killing himself and the rest of the army slaughtered in the battlefield. The myth says that after the battle, Armenius found the body of Varus and cut his head to send it to another german leader that didn't want to join his know united germanic state.
great video plzz do more
glad to see you are back :) really enjoy your videos!
Love these. Great job as always.
Another great video. Should have mentioned the quote from Augustus after hearing of the defeat though! "Quintili Vare, legiones redde!“ ('Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!')
dude your videos are honestly outstanding. if history classes were taught like this in high school we'd all be experts by the time we graduated. i don't know if it's your pacing, the way you explain things, the simple yet informative animations, or all of the above, but these videos are all excellent.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
love your channel, been a total war fan for years, got me into history at an early age
Clear logic without useless baggage and solid animation, great work!
This multi-day battle would be great for the Netflix series. But of course that would mean less time for the love triangle I guess.
(Love Barbarians still, and of course this channel too)
things like Cuties are just so much more culturally important, that Netflix priorities them over some dusty old roman shit. Who needs that, am I right?
/s
Idris Elba will play Arminius.
They would've given the role to Denzel Washington, but he's already playing Hannibal...
Waited a long time for this
Hi, and thank you for creating this channel and giving of your time to making these videos of excellent content! I hope in the future you make more videos and even expand to covering medieval wartactics and social structures. Take care!
Another thing, during the first engagement the Romans couldn't return fire at first. Each legionary would carry their pila and fortification equipment slung over their shoulder in a bundle. When they first came under fire, their immediate reaction was drop the bundle, raise your scutum, and draw your gladius. The lack of initial return fire led to even more deaths for the Romans in the initial engagement.
I always wondered what might have happened if there had been a commander who was both a skilled diplomat and a skilled tactician there instead of Varus. This was a disaster that could have been avoided.
This channel is simply fantastic! More than earned my subscription. Keep them coming!
Wow, your production is noticeably improved in this video! Happy to see it, along side this great look at one of Rome's greatest defeats.
Wish you covered more of the personal history surrounding Varus. Such as the dispute between Arminius and his uncle Segestes (who tried to warn Varus of the uprising and later got revenge by helping murder Arminius)
He was like the Dj Khaled of building encampments...another one...another one.
Except all DJ Khaled does is win. Varus, not so much.
congrats Varus
you just played yourself
You should see Caesar's escapades, it's 70% fort and wall building
Please keep them coming! I love your videos! Just amazing!
Thank you for making these videos, there's a great knowledge in them!
"He made his men make another fortified encampent" I loved it when you said that
"Varus, give me back my legions!"
All of your videos are just soooo good, mate! Thank you! :)
Even though they're far between these videos are always fantastic. Keep up the good work!
Somebody should ask Tribune Aquila if Quintis Varus can give back his legions
could you also make some about the caliphs and mohammads battles
+Sebastiaan van Rijk like battle of yarmouk
+Sebastiaan van Rijk that would be awesome. there are also interesting battles like the battle of parwan where the mongols were defeated (at least temporarily) in what is now afghanistan. if you look at the circumstances surrounding the battle, its literally game of thrones level madness.
The quality have really improved, love your videos keep up the work! :D
Your videos are amazing!! This is my favorite period in history and watching your videos help me learn so much!
Very good video! I knew about the battle but never in much detail. I had no idea that Varus sent off 10 cohorts, or that there had been several encampments during the four days of ambushes.
Who's here after the trailer 'Barbarians' on Netflix?
your mom
Please keep up the great work, these videos are amazing!
I love all your Videos of these battleformations. Bless you and make more of it pretty please!
"Varus, give me back my legions"
Please please please please please please PLEASE do the Battle of Pharsalus!
love your videos man! keep making more!!
I love your content, please keep on doing this
To the people who made this video: I really appreciate the humor, you never hear good history jokes anymore
7:13 - It was at this moment Varus knew he f...d up.
I keep coming back to this channel every few months..even tho in the stories..the videos still so fun to watch
Such a great video!
The most famous legend goes that upon hearing of the Battle of Teutoburg Forest, Augustus Caesar was so shaken that he would wander the halls of his palace and shouted over and over again..."Quintili Vare, legiones redde!“ ('Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!')
So no mention of the heavy taxation and romanization that lead to the betrayal in the first place? Such a scenario was a similar setting to Boudicca's revolt.
Great info and excellent presentation. Thank you
WHOO! Video! I love your content man!