"Despite him being so indecisive and clueless about what he wants, he still *demands* to be the sole decision-maker and expects the women to wait on him. No one is allowed to leave." ooof you really nailed it
“Some people will fight passionately for you just so you can be an option to them.” Is a 🎤 drop! I had to stop what I was doing and rewind and let it sink. So often we think effort is commensurate to level desire and and willingness to commit and sometimes it’s really just self-serving
Totally, and it’s the first time this has happened for me with LIB. I couldn’t get through episode 7 (I think..? The first one from the second batch, after they get back from Mexico and move in together.) I tried to continue watching but couldn’t and eventually just stopped. I was feeling so uncomfortable!
I really saw how she couldn’t sit still on the couch and talking fast and her people pleasing behaviour to break up with Nick then regret it later . She is definitely ADHD.
@@AiResearcherPhD caveat: only my opinion and discussing episodes 1-9. POSSIBLE SPOILERS. The clips they present of her from the pod lounge has her swinging from very bro/jock-like behavior to very girly. This comes back several times. I don’t know what to make of it. Secondly, we learn she lost a lot of weight and that weight, self-image and image are an issue, but she introduces herself as “was a cheerleader, dating the quarterback” and leads the conversation into how Nick looks. In the same way Leo doesn’t want it to be about money, but cannot stop himself from talking about his money, Hannah wants to be loved for herself, but can’t keep herself away from talking about looks. Another mystery is what was happening in her family. She mentions she was cut off, and has been working since 18. However, she does take Nick to meet those parents who cut her off. Or maybe it was Cade, who was cut off? I am building a theory about her that I have been testing throughout my viewing: that maybe she is so disappointed in Nick because he’s the opposite of what she wanted: a quarterback kind of guy who will make her feel petite and dainty, that she wants someone who can help her with the burdens of adult life, someone whom she can rely on.
@@Neis757as a 21 year old respectfully she isnt that young. she’s an adult and hasn’t figured out yet how to be emotionally mature or controlled. This is not something to blame on her age she is responsible for that. She’s immature
Despite Hannah's indecision I think Nick was her number one choice from the beginning. She clearly liked him but was shamed for it and felt more insecure about him probably because she was more invested. She never really talked about Leo with anyone, only Nick.
@@samanthas8340 seems like Hannah cares a bit too much about the opinions of others who frankly don't get a say. I mean she just met these women. By what right do they get to talk with so much authority?
Just gotta say, I love this content! I don't even necessarily watch the show because I love it. I get through it so I can come to UA-cam and watch the psychological evaluations of the cast. I understand it's an edited show so it's all just purely entertainment for me.
Amazing analysis! I especially loved the dissection of gaslighting! And the explanation of how a situationship can start and what questions to ask yourself to avoid it. I also didn't realize how similar and how compatible Hannah and Leo were, in a twisted way.
amazing! wonderful video! you are absolutely brilliant! as much as i hate Leo, i think sometimes i’ve been manipulative in relationships and thinking back on it mortifies me
I was dumbfounded he wanted to pull Hanna back in. He loved them both SO much and it was SO equal. She made the decision easy. There you go, the right person does not choose someone else. His reaction was so shocking and your analysis really helped.
I love your channel and work...Please share an analysis of TIm and Alex soon. Cant wait to see that.!!! they should hire you for the show cause they need help. LOL
Thank you for another great video, I have indeed learned new things from this! It’s funny, I can see why it was a little tough to work with this couple in particular. You nailed it.
THANKYOU. I was hoping so bad that someone would analyse this situation. It really triggered me and took me back to a similar situation that happened to me. I was confused and scared and felt shame and didn't know why
YASSS! I was literally counting the days checking YT for a video! Such insightful and thought provoking info, I could listen to you talk forever. I know you do all kinds of analysis but I would love to know what your thoughts are on our blind spots and maybe how they pertain to who we may choose to date/marry; also are you an INTP!!?? 😂 You should evaluate Married at First Sight, particularly season 12 with Chris and Paige! Thanks so much for all your hard work, I know you're going to continue to blow up, especially in this fascinating niche field of cognitive functions and compatibility!
I was so excited for your coverage of these two because this is the first time we have had people confirm their Myers-Briggs Personality Type in the show!
Interesting how you think Leo and Hannah are an ISFJ and ESFP respectively when they both think that they are ENTJs. Could that play a hand in how both of them can be unaware of how they are perceived by others?
I feel like if any woman in the pods said to Leo "yellow is so yellow" he would be like "I just love how smart and confident you are.... you truly get me...we're meant to be!"
Dr. Cherie could you please make a video for INFJ's? There's so few examples about our type or Ni dominant folks regarding romantic compatibility. We would so appreciate it. You're one of my favorite channels!
The relationship between Leo and Hannah highlights the difference between independence and maturity to me. Hannah tells Nick she's more mature than him, but really she's more financially independent than him. Two very different things. The start of maturity is self-awareness which Hannah lacks. Any woman who allows LEO of all people to get them whipped up into a frenzy clearly lacks maturity. That man is so unserious. It says something that none of the other women mention him or speak up on his behalf. That disgusting display of a childish tantrum by Leo could have easily been nipped in the bud by Hannah but she lacks the tools or the ovarian fortitude to do so. How any woman could cry over him blows my mind.
Well, there are a lot of people put there who are very immature and super insecure. Maturity comes from working on yourself by embracing whatever life throws at you, and through it, you develop self-confidence. These two don't have either. They'd rather throw their insecurities upon others to bear while they themselves don't do any work. I can see that being with either of them will be emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually draining.
Another brilliant video. After watching this, I’m wondering where the line is between personality traits and mental health disorders?? Because a lot of these traits aren’t normal and are detrimental to other people.
Same functions, but I believe Leo is ENTP.....I've also seen Matthew in other interviews and I believe he's INTJ. Hannah tbd for me- i need to watch more episodes but I believe her match (forget his name atm) is ESFP.
I knew they both weren't ENTJs. I initially typed Hannah as an ESxP too, but after seeing her outside of the pods, I'm thinking it's possible that she's an ESTJ. These types don't share any of the same functions, so it's pretty confusing
Great analysis! When I watched it the first time I just had a vague but strong sense of ick. Now I understand exactly why. I like when you take the therapist's hat off, too 😄
Dr Cherie, thank you for that great insight about this pair. I have what I think may be a stupid question but nevertheless, I'd like to ask, bearing in mind all the different personality types and the nuances within them, why is it that Leo, from the many comments I have read about him on other channels, universally annoyed the living daylights out of everyone? Why was there nobody who took his side or could relate to him? I know his flaws were many and obvious but is it not strange that I haven't seen a single comment from anyone trying to defend him or even just asking people to give him a break? How does that work?
He did have two women chasing him. The guys in the lounge didn’t outright oppose him. Every personality type has a “good” and “bad” version. No type is immune to insecurity.
Well, he was not very relatable and quite unsympathetic, he kept boasting about his wealth, besides he suffered a trauma like losing all his family in a short amount of time, something that should at least live a trace in anybody, but didn't show any sign of sadness or mourning about that, and just behaved like a spoiled brat and kept saying how their deaths basically allowed him to become rich, that gave most people psycopath vibes. It was hard to feel any sympathy for him or support him.
@@dearbh1736 he's not giving us much to work with unfortunately. His tragedies should make us feel sympathy like Tim yet he doesn't talk about them at all. How can anyone build sympathy when he goes out of his way to push people away with all his talk of money?
think he’s more of an ENTP rather than ISFJ, more Ne-Ti accompanied with Fe than Si-Fe + Ne. but love your analysis as always, thanks! was waiting for this video. hope there’s gonna be more
He needs to enroll himself in proper therapy with an actual licensed psychologist since he has so much $$$. He seems like a grifter, alpha tech bro who watches those super misogynistic self-help crap that like-minded men sell. He has no genuineness, no charm, no vulnerability, no humor, no character.
"Despite him being so indecisive and clueless about what he wants, he still *demands* to be the sole decision-maker and expects the women to wait on him. No one is allowed to leave." ooof you really nailed it
I feel like Leo is a great case study for 'how an emotionally abusive relationship starts'.
Yup!
Stephen too
And Tyler. Hell, half of them.
They both are, Hannah and Leo. Hannah treats Nick gradually worse and worse.
Hannah takes the cake
“Some people will fight passionately for you just so you can be an option to them.” Is a 🎤 drop! I had to stop what I was doing and rewind and let it sink. So often we think effort is commensurate to level desire and and willingness to commit and sometimes it’s really just self-serving
Leo: “Nah baby, I’m only seeing her cause I love you.” 😂
The mental gymnastics are too much 🤣💀
@@kentiapalm7 😂
Anyone find this season *so* uncomfortable?
I couldn't watch it, props to Dr. Cherie.
Yea, it's so different to the UK one, it feels like a drop in quality.
A lot of people feel this way!!
Yeah it feels cheap
Yeah, super uncomfy
Totally, and it’s the first time this has happened for me with LIB. I couldn’t get through episode 7 (I think..? The first one from the second batch, after they get back from Mexico and move in together.) I tried to continue watching but couldn’t and eventually just stopped. I was feeling so uncomfortable!
There‘s so much going on with Hannah. I hope you will return to her because even after 9 episodes, she’s a mystery to me.
Could anyone elaborate on why Hannah is a mystery?
I really saw how she couldn’t sit still on the couch and talking fast and her people pleasing behaviour to break up with Nick then regret it later . She is definitely ADHD.
@@AiResearcherPhD caveat: only my opinion and discussing episodes 1-9. POSSIBLE SPOILERS.
The clips they present of her from the pod lounge has her swinging from very bro/jock-like behavior to very girly. This comes back several times. I don’t know what to make of it.
Secondly, we learn she lost a lot of weight and that weight, self-image and image are an issue, but she introduces herself as “was a cheerleader, dating the quarterback” and leads the conversation into how Nick looks. In the same way Leo doesn’t want it to be about money, but cannot stop himself from talking about his money, Hannah wants to be loved for herself, but can’t keep herself away from talking about looks.
Another mystery is what was happening in her family. She mentions she was cut off, and has been working since 18. However, she does take Nick to meet those parents who cut her off. Or maybe it was Cade, who was cut off?
I am building a theory about her that I have been testing throughout my viewing: that maybe she is so disappointed in Nick because he’s the opposite of what she wanted: a quarterback kind of guy who will make her feel petite and dainty, that she wants someone who can help her with the burdens of adult life, someone whom she can rely on.
She’s just young
@@Neis757as a 21 year old respectfully she isnt that young. she’s an adult and hasn’t figured out yet how to be emotionally mature or controlled. This is not something to blame on her age she is responsible for that. She’s immature
When I heard him say “we’re both ENTJ’s!” I couldn’t wait to hear your thoughts hehe
same!
I thought the same 😆
LOL same
😁
I think im an entj and frankly i would never have time to do any of these mental manipulation 😂
Despite Hannah's indecision I think Nick was her number one choice from the beginning. She clearly liked him but was shamed for it and felt more insecure about him probably because she was more invested. She never really talked about Leo with anyone, only Nick.
Would be interesting to see them all in the next mixer party.
@@samanthas8340 seems like Hannah cares a bit too much about the opinions of others who frankly don't get a say. I mean she just met these women. By what right do they get to talk with so much authority?
Nick was definitely her number one and she really got creeped out from Leo’s manipulations.
You've never been this sassy. This couple got to you.😅
Just gotta say, I love this content! I don't even necessarily watch the show because I love it. I get through it so I can come to UA-cam and watch the psychological evaluations of the cast. I understand it's an edited show so it's all just purely entertainment for me.
This is the only show I watch so I can watch UA-cam videos on it afterwards. 😂
When he said they are both ENTJs I literally guffawed. I said “Leo baby, you wish you were an ENTJ.”
I liked the creators comment that he would lack self awareness enough to self evaluate his personality type. So true.
This sounds even crazier hearing it a second time.
People like Leo and Matthew are scary 😅 thank you for this breakdown
Amazing analysis! I especially loved the dissection of gaslighting! And the explanation of how a situationship can start and what questions to ask yourself to avoid it. I also didn't realize how similar and how compatible Hannah and Leo were, in a twisted way.
I remember hearing Leo say that he and Hannah were both ENTJs and wondering whether that was true
Hannah is the least NT person I've ever seen. Shows that sometimes those people have no idea who they're taking to.
wow you methodically obliterated both of these caricatures
This video is everything. I never realized the parallels between Hannah and Leo.
CLICKED SO FAST
amazing! wonderful video! you are absolutely brilliant!
as much as i hate Leo, i think sometimes i’ve been manipulative in relationships and thinking back on it mortifies me
the "mutt girl" dude was rough, but this dude made me drop this season. ack.
but i'll watch your videos about it!
I was dumbfounded he wanted to pull Hanna back in. He loved them both SO much and it was SO equal. She made the decision easy. There you go, the right person does not choose someone else. His reaction was so shocking and your analysis really helped.
YESS been wishing for this!! I couldn’t watch this season because eesssshhh the toxicity is loud but I’m here for your breakdown ❤❤
I love your channel and work...Please share an analysis of TIm and Alex soon. Cant wait to see that.!!! they should hire you for the show cause they need help. LOL
Thank you for another great video, I have indeed learned new things from this! It’s funny, I can see why it was a little tough to work with this couple in particular. You nailed it.
So much gratitude. I related so much to them and your words that I stopped and did a bit of self inquiry. Excellent!
THANKYOU. I was hoping so bad that someone would analyse this situation. It really triggered me and took me back to a similar situation that happened to me. I was confused and scared and felt shame and didn't know why
Your analysis is so thoughtful and informative, I learned a lot from your video. You present everything in very organised way and explain simply.
YASSS! I was literally counting the days checking YT for a video! Such insightful and thought provoking info, I could listen to you talk forever. I know you do all kinds of analysis but I would love to know what your thoughts are on our blind spots and maybe how they pertain to who we may choose to date/marry; also are you an INTP!!?? 😂 You should evaluate Married at First Sight, particularly season 12 with Chris and Paige! Thanks so much for all your hard work, I know you're going to continue to blow up, especially in this fascinating niche field of cognitive functions and compatibility!
I know a guy like Leo and it was so heart wrenching...
Omg this content is pure gold
I was so excited for your coverage of these two because this is the first time we have had people confirm their Myers-Briggs Personality Type in the show!
Even I agreed that a lot may be obvious you actually stated a lot, and in such depth things, we did miss... Very valuable
He said “we both broke up with each other” the delusion manipulation.
Yesss! Thank you!! You have no idea how much I need your videos!!!
Interesting how you think Leo and Hannah are an ISFJ and ESFP respectively when they both think that they are ENTJs. Could that play a hand in how both of them can be unaware of how they are perceived by others?
LMAO, you answered my question at the end 😂. I was just so eager, I typed before finishing.
thanks for speaking the truth about Leo. im tired of him
Oooooo baby. Dr.Cherie I’ve been waiting for this. ❤
Wow, he was really just using high pressure sales tactics (i.e. manipulations), the type that probably made their family business successful.
I feel like if any woman in the pods said to Leo "yellow is so yellow" he would be like "I just love how smart and confident you are.... you truly get me...we're meant to be!"
Dr. Cherie could you please make a video for INFJ's? There's so few examples about our type or Ni dominant folks regarding romantic compatibility. We would so appreciate it. You're one of my favorite channels!
Why do infj act like they are so special? They give huge insecure and cringe vibe.
The relationship between Leo and Hannah highlights the difference between independence and maturity to me. Hannah tells Nick she's more mature than him, but really she's more financially independent than him. Two very different things. The start of maturity is self-awareness which Hannah lacks.
Any woman who allows LEO of all people to get them whipped up into a frenzy clearly lacks maturity. That man is so unserious. It says something that none of the other women mention him or speak up on his behalf.
That disgusting display of a childish tantrum by Leo could have easily been nipped in the bud by Hannah but she lacks the tools or the ovarian fortitude to do so. How any woman could cry over him blows my mind.
Well, there are a lot of people put there who are very immature and super insecure. Maturity comes from working on yourself by embracing whatever life throws at you, and through it, you develop self-confidence. These two don't have either. They'd rather throw their insecurities upon others to bear while they themselves don't do any work.
I can see that being with either of them will be emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually draining.
OVARIAN FORTITUDE. I'm adding this to my vernacular
@@Amber-qz3grI LOVE it!!
Yay, you're back! I love your analyses, can't wait for more on this mess of a season
Wow, I just found your channel. And you are by far the most insightful interpreter of this show through a psychology lens ❤
First🎉 Love your videos!
So excited for your videos on this season! They are fascinating.😊
Another brilliant video. After watching this, I’m wondering where the line is between personality traits and mental health disorders?? Because a lot of these traits aren’t normal and are detrimental to other people.
Great video and very solid advice toward the end.
Same functions, but I believe Leo is ENTP.....I've also seen Matthew in other interviews and I believe he's INTJ. Hannah tbd for me- i need to watch more episodes but I believe her match (forget his name atm) is ESFP.
You’re back!❤
YES Dr. Cherie. You tell em 👏👏👏
I knew they both weren't ENTJs. I initially typed Hannah as an ESxP too, but after seeing her outside of the pods, I'm thinking it's possible that she's an ESTJ. These types don't share any of the same functions, so it's pretty confusing
Please do love is blind habibi!!! It’s a train wreck.
💜💜💜💜💜💜YES DR. CHERIE!💜💜💜💜💜💜
Great analysis! When I watched it the first time I just had a vague but strong sense of ick. Now I understand exactly why.
I like when you take the therapist's hat off, too 😄
Dr Cherie, thank you for that great insight about this pair. I have what I think may be a stupid question but nevertheless, I'd like to ask, bearing in mind all the different personality types and the nuances within them, why is it that Leo, from the many comments I have read about him on other channels, universally annoyed the living daylights out of everyone? Why was there nobody who took his side or could relate to him? I know his flaws were many and obvious but is it not strange that I haven't seen a single comment from anyone trying to defend him or even just asking people to give him a break? How does that work?
He did have two women chasing him. The guys in the lounge didn’t outright oppose him. Every personality type has a “good” and “bad” version. No type is immune to insecurity.
Well, he was not very relatable and quite unsympathetic, he kept boasting about his wealth, besides he suffered a trauma like losing all his family in a short amount of time, something that should at least live a trace in anybody, but didn't show any sign of sadness or mourning about that, and just behaved like a spoiled brat and kept saying how their deaths basically allowed him to become rich, that gave most people psycopath vibes. It was hard to feel any sympathy for him or support him.
@@dearbh1736 he's not giving us much to work with unfortunately. His tragedies should make us feel sympathy like Tim yet he doesn't talk about them at all. How can anyone build sympathy when he goes out of his way to push people away with all his talk of money?
think he’s more of an ENTP rather than ISFJ, more Ne-Ti accompanied with Fe than Si-Fe + Ne. but love your analysis as always, thanks! was waiting for this video. hope there’s gonna be more
That is an ISFJ typing....I agree with ENTP
@@Lenastar23 oh i just realized that. definitely not isfj, too outward focused. lots of Ne
Reminds me of gwan hee
yes they both have maturity level of a child
I felt really sorry for Hannah with Leo. Not anymore with Nick... can you do a video of this connection too?
INTP gang here. We are good manipulators. 🤣
Lol you think you are a good manipulator but you don't have enough emotion intelligence to pull it off😂😂😂
It's so difficult to watch Leo. He is such a clown. Loving a person like him would be a nightmare. He needs therapy and growth.
He said "we"re both ENTJs" but they both didn't really feel like ENTJs :/
What personality types would you say Brittany and Nick are, Dr Cherie?
Hi! Leo mentions in the pods that they are both ENTJ'S which is TeSi. Do you agree with that?
He isn't two timing. That's the premise of the show, date more than one person, decide. Leo is an ass, but he isn't two timing
I was so shocked by all the shit that came out of this guys mouth, I stopped watching it.
He needs to enroll himself in proper therapy with an actual licensed psychologist since he has so much $$$. He seems like a grifter, alpha tech bro who watches those super misogynistic self-help crap that like-minded men sell. He has no genuineness, no charm, no vulnerability, no humor, no character.
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Like children. Yes, that's it.
he seemed like he was on the spectrum & she seemed a bit ADHD