Guys! I understand that it was confirmed that they are not connected! But we have an amazing community, and it's still fun to make up theories. The player's love to the lore brings great ideas even if they are not correct. And I liked this theory and wanted to share it with you guys! Thank you for clarifying that it's not connected though :) and also: Thank you so much for the support! YOU ARE AWESOMEEE
It matters not. Players must be free to be wrong, or else cause and effect doesn't really affect the game, and then it's boring. Souls games are the only ones that manage to let you be wrong in the real world thinking about it too, but also at the same time, has no correct answers necessarily. It's so cool...
There is a shield called the Sun Realm Shield, that drops rarely from skeletal swordsman enemies. It depicts what seems to be Anor Londo, and the item description says that the shield is very old. Implying that dark souls came before elden ring
i think it's a shield showing Anor Londo as well, but "the shield is faded, and has seen better days" part makes me think that this was a personal nod to dark souls, saying how it's glory days are faded
@@notspacekeeper sorry I didn't specify, I meant where sekiro takes place in japan (ashina). Thinking elden ring and sekiro are in the same universe. Though obviously not because no one in sekiros universe does blood ashes of war. Since weapons related to the land of reeds so blood arts of sorts.
For part 1, lending on the idea of Dark Souls before Elden ring, one connection could be the arch dragon peak in ds3. The whole point of that place was basically to wait out the end of the world and repopulate it with dragons. That would lend to the idea that dragons once again ruled over the world. Regarding the duskborn ending, I remember Fia calling the cursemark of death a hallowbrand. I vaguely remember the darksign in ds3 being called a hollowbrand. Funny connection there.
I thought to myself that IF there's something like a joint timeline, Bloodborne takes place after the events of Dark Souls 3 because the curse becomes... bloodborne, through the actions of Gael. Elden Ring, in turn, takes place within the painting that was painted with the blood of the Dark Soul. This would explain why the game world is so picturesque and at times, not logcial.
Not a fan of this theory but I totally loved the introduction of new theories and ideas. There is so much repetitive Elden Ring content out there so this feels sooooooo refreshing.
This was a very good vid, definitely got me thinking about possible connections between the games. I now have a theory that the Moon Presence could possibly be Ranni, warped by her long travels through the stars only to return to find the world in the grasp of different outer gods hence why MP wants hunters to kill them. Just a rough theory tho
The full moon ending into bloodborne can be supported with the pthumerians aprearing similar to the albinauric of old in the eternal cities (both found underground and both worshipping the stars and outer beings like the moon. Also the moon ending could relate to the outer god moon presance which ranni interacted with unknowingly and set in motion the rise of the beast curse and their hunters
I loved this theory, infact it's now my head cannon, for demon's souls, since it's the age of duskborne, and since immortality was gone from the world, the Erdtree could have also witherd away, its roots deep underground, forming into what is known as the old one, or something like that, I mean, its a coincidence that the old one is a demonic tree.
I think a really interesting note to add to evidence of them existing in a "multiverse" like existence, is the Millwood knights in dark souls 3. It says in their armor descriptions that they worship "the ethereal Oak" which very much describes the erdtree. However we are never introduced to this tree in dark souls, yet the imagery is in shields and other armor as well. But most notable, the Millwood knights are found in the painted world, indicating they are lost or without home. These could be some of the tarnished that were hounded from the lands between.
Honestly none of them makes sense if you look each case in depth. It is stated very clearly that the Frenzied flame melts all life away into a single huge mass once again, if you think that life could spawn again from this "Oneness" and create specifically the world of Dark Souls despite both working with different laws of reality, you may as well say any other of the games could have come from this ending. Ranni's ending doesn't get rid of the Greater Will, it will always exist unless the world itself is destroyed, is the manifestation of the collective consciousness wishing for order in a chaotic world, kinda like in Berserk where "God" is the manifestation of humanity's wish for an explanation to their suffering. What Ranni did is get the Elden Ring out of mortal or outer god's reach so no one can play being the King of the world anymore and prevent anyone from taking a stupid desition for all of us, like removing the Rune of Death or literally shattering reality. The Dusk ending doesn't connect with Demon's souls at all, there are not demons in Elden Ring to begin with, both worlds function differently and the guy just made the connecting because of the grim and bleak aesthetic
When I saw fia sitting at the Elden throne for the first time i couldn’t but notice the similarities between her and the “the old one” from demon souls so I believe that that ending starts demon souls
the best part of this kind of theory is just the UNENDING SHITSHOW Patches has seen. 'cause it'd mean it's the same guy. every time. somehow this immortal little bastard has gone through a million years of the world going from one kind of hell to another and he's still finding it fun to kick people down pits. bless him.
I think elden ring makes way more sense as a prequel to dark souls with the frenzied flame ending. The world was burned to ash but eventually fire arose again. All the souls the erdtree absorbed went back into grey nothingness and eventually awoke as dragons
One super important detail that sort of confirms to me that DS3's painting at the end of Ashes of Ariandel/The Ringed City leads into Elden Ring: The Two Fingers, who commune with Metyr and then the Greater Will.. Remember the Painter Girl in the Painted World of Ariandel? Do you remember how, upon first discovering her, she is seemingly painting or etching something into the table with her finger? Well, while there are brushes and paint scattered on the table beside where she sits and paints later... I believe she paints the world all **by hand** after receiving the Dark Soul and the flames she desired. This is why the 'Fingers' have that sort of shape and why finger iconography is so rampant in the world. The world of Elden Ring is literally hand crafted-- finger painted even. The Greater Will is no longer communicating with the fingers because the Painter Girl has died in the outside world, succumbing to the flame, her painting completed. (Bonus: Look at her painting btw.... Is that... The Gate of Divinity from the DLC?? Where Marika ascended to Godhood?? We see in the promotional CGI trailer that it used to be blood red before Miquella attempted to use it.)
I once came up with an idea that in a next game it could be all coming together, and that there would be classes to choose from every game. Having Demon Slayers, Beast Hunters, Shinobi, Tarnished and Ashen ones. I don’t think there have to be more sub classes of each game, as you can spec the way you want. So in a way all start with depraved or wretched class but having the different leveling system from the different games.
It would be interesting to see those worlds quite literally collide, perhaps through being connected by the arch trees seen in each game. I also wonder what the final boss of that game would look like, as it would have to be one that would be much greater than any final boss from the previous games, and perhaps even a final boss to close out the entire from soft universe as a whole. Though, that will probably just remain as a nice head cannon, I doubt that they actually planned that.
My headcanon is the timeline is this. Demon's Souls bad ending where the old one shrouds the whole planet in fog leveling all manmade objects to dust and thus begins the ancient era of dragons and the start of Dark Souls. Bloodborne occurs between DS1 and DS2 as one of the many cycles, Bloodborne's influence made apparent in DS3 in many item descriptions and boss fights. Then the age of darkness ending occurs in DS3 and everything is consumed by the deep. Eventually the deep recedes and the start of Elden Ring begins. Items, weapons, armor, and concepts combined, twisted, and reformed in the deep the most durable of concepts being dragons who are the first to reappear and thus the Elden Ring story begins the concept of the age of fire combined with Bloodborne and Demon's Souls elements to become the Erd Tree
i believe in the Ash Lake from DS1 theory wich is: all the soulsborne are related because of Ash Lake having those trees wich are a "gate" to another world. And i think that in the ants underground place there's a tree related to that
I never really thought about how the worlds of the souls series may be related, but this video gave me a fun "what if" moment. Good job; your content is entertaining.
All things yearn to converge. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Armoured Core - they are prequels to Elden Ring. Demon's Souls is Ranni's nightmare - her fears of being a Fool's Idol bound in service to the Two Fingers Dark Souls is Godwyn's nightmare - keeping lit the flame of frenzy Bloodborne is Miquella's nightmare upon the altar of blood. Sekiro is Malenia's nightmare - a warrior tired of a lifetime of pain but unable to stop fighting in service of her lord Armoured Core 1-5 is Melina's nightmare - the Gloam-eyed queen is a queen of Ravens forced from her home and contracted in the service of others to survive. Armoured Core 6, I suspect, is the closest FromSoft will get to following up the Frenzy Flame ending. I do think that it is possible that a Bloodborne 2 will be made - possibly with ties to Rykard (hopefully with more mushrooms). But overall I think that the Age of Stars ending is telegraphing that FromSoft is working on developing a new IP with a sci-fi theme.
@@miirshroom It is all a master plan from Kojima. He actually works for from software too, and his MGS V was a prequel to Armored core, because metal gear has mercenaries and big robots
Rannis ending is misunderstood because a mistranslation that couldn't be changed in time to numerous voice lines already recorded for release. She doesn't bring a dark ending, she takes the Elden ring far away on a journey to destinations unknown, which you take with her, into fear, doubt, and loneliness, because you will leave behind all you know. She's doing this to keep it far from mankind, so their troubles and biases, and natural imperfections cannot corrupt the order. This can be confirmed with a simple Google search. The game is designed in Japanese, the dialogue is written in Japanese, and the first draft is in Japanese. They have to port it to America to be translated, which was rushed because the release was shortened. Thus leading to errors in the complex Japanese languages translation. Slight changes of tone can mean entirely different things, so it is very easy to mistranslate if rushed. And none of it could be fixed because they would have to fly the voice actors out again to re-record every line..... So no, it's not blood borne. Age of frenzy is not dark souls, because frenzy flame is madness, not a physical flame, but the anguish of madness focused into a ray that happens to set things on fire. So, you don't keep this thing alight... Because it's not a fire. It's a sentient being/eldritch horror capable of mass manipulation and destruction. And your dumbass fell for it's tricks for a couple highly gimicky spells. These are fun to think about but there's lore that explains things. And these only work if you look at everything face value. That's like me saying Halo must be the past life of Destinys universe, because they both have ghosts. They aren't even comparable things because of vast differences. Frenzy isn't even a physical fire, its driving someone so insane their brain starts shooting pure agony from their eyes (hence the damage to you) that sets things on fire because the intensity. Magic in this game is built on intent. And the 3 fingers made the flames of frenzy as intent, because it's not true flames, it too can burn the erdtree, just like the godskin apostles black flames. The Erdtree is impenetrable, it can only be broken with 1 of 3 kinds of fire: 1. Enchanted fire (Black Flame) 2. Cursed fire (Frenzy Flame) 3. Sacred fire (Giants Flame) Otherwise you aren't getting in. The only thing close to actual fire is Giants Flame. It's extremely hot and is derived from deep magma magic and flames from the intensity of the suns surface. The other two are interesting...ones real fire enhanced and imbued with the rune of destined death. I'm a nerd. Gnight
That's an interesting theory to think about. Maybe the immediate question to follow this theory might be, if this is true, then which world (game) would come from the "true ending" and which ones would be something akin to "what if" stories? Or even, could any of these endings happen at the same time (or close to it) to bring more than one of these timelines into existence and maybe take place in different parts of the world? Love that games can have such interesting lore that people can talk about and theorize on for years and maybe even get things answered eventually.
I've always theorized that the Frenzied Flame ending kicked off Dark Souls, I mean you even have the "Daughters of Chaos"! Also, I believe that the game Sekiro, could be the Land of Reeds. "A land long been locked in a miserable civil war, during which time it has remained alienated from the cultures of its neighbors. Little wonder that the entire nation has succumbed to blood-soaked madness."
Sekiro's true ending was the death of sekiro. But in the dragon's return ending, they set out on journey to west, to find out the origins of the divine dragon and the divine tree. And the fun thing is, the way we end up in crumbling farum azula and reach dragonlord placidusax, is a lot similar to how we reach the fountainhead palace and reach The divine realm.
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At the very least, I currently believe these games are in the same universe or at least multiverse because Patches The Spider is in more than just Bloodborne although not always a spider.
Before I even watch this video, I've always loved the idea of the universes being intertwined somehow, and to me, the arch trees were the key to that I'm not entirely sure about demon's souls since I haven't completed it yet, but in ds1-3, BB, and elden ring, there's this common theme of ancient trees or pillars, some kind of almost void with pillars rising into the distance To me it feels like the Erdtrees just are archtrees and by extension different worlds bound together in the void
I like to believe the soulsborne era of FromSoftware is a multiverse. One universe built its cosmology around the nature of time and change, another filled with horrors no man should ever have to be made aware of, one universe built to canonize the mythology of a real country, etc
I think that the Elden Ring item description that talks about when dragons ruled the land was talking about how Placidusax was Elden Lord before the age of the Erdtree Godfrey is only first Elden Lord of the age of the Erdtree
The flow of time in Lordran is convoluted indeed. I believe there is no true beginning or ending point as far as a timeline goes. They all exist, together and separately, tangled and sometimes crossing into each other. While I love the theory that they are all directly linked to one another in a linear fashion, it just doesn’t make sense thematically. The Erdtree has burned millions of times, the fire linked until everything was ash. These worlds are just blips on an endless and timeless entanglement and exist neither before or after one another. Great video btw :)
Personally I always thought that Demon’s Souls followed the Dark Lord ending in DS1 (a human is in charge so that just makes sense to me) and the link the fire ending was what eventually causes DS3 with DS2 happening either way. The opening cutscene of Elden Ring talks about ‘crossing the fog’ to the Lands Between so it might follow Demon’s Souls Maiden Killer ending as that causes the world to be lost in a deep fog or be concurrent with the era of Colourless fog that appears in D’sS. Bloodborne could then follow the slumbering Old One ending as Soul Arts are lost with that ending and BB doesn’t have the same magic system. I’m kind of curious where people would say Kings Field comes in this series though, there’s no reason to not include it really.
The little human brain is always looking for connections and deeper meanings. And as it does so, it constructs those connections and puts deeper meaning into them.
Late to the party gere but it's definitely all connected. FromSoftware are too creative to be as lazy as use Elden Ring enemy's with the literal same name and appearance as Dark Souls for example My theory is Elden Ring is the beginning, but as we know time is not linear in the game, also the end. Il try and explain as short as I can: My theory is for Golden Order and Age of Fracture endings, Elden Ring universe continues as it is, with the outer gods happy this leads to a good future. Frenzied Flame, inevitably kills everything with little existing for thousands of years. However, as time goes past, the flame is extinguished, leaving the age of the ancients and a world shrouded in fog (smoke), with just the immortal dragons having survived and ruled the world. Then, from an ember, the fire restarted and some beings underneath the world, came into contact with the fire and gained great power from lord souls (great runes), and rose up back to the surface. So the dark souls story takes place. The story then ends, with the painter painting a new world for Gael, of which, is then Elden Ring again, which is the outer gods way of starting again and rectifying. This would explain why so many creature's are the same, weapons and artifacts, plus things being named after Gael. Age of the stars then leads to Bloodbourne, where at the end we wake from a dream, to cross the fog as tarnished. Age of duskborn in my eyes leads to sekiro, like the theory in the video states where beings are trying to get immortality back through what seems to be a form Dragon Communion. We know sekiro is set in Land of Ashina. Ashi, translates to Reed in English. All of the Samurai, Okina Mask and some Katanas in Elden Ring come from "Land of Reed" in their description, which gives some indication the place Sekiro is set is present in Elden Rings universe. And in the Return Sekiro ending, we travel to the west, to the divine dragons origin, likely, the lands between.
To add to rabidductchman's comment, at the beginning of Elden Ring we awaken in a land covered in ash similar to the world state we see at the end of Dark Souls 3's second DLC
About time some UA-camr talked about this. Had a friend of mine spin this theory in my head months ago and it made almost too much sense to ignore. Couple hits and misses, but the theory can be a well versed probability.
I adore this theory, even if it's likely not true. The idea of these generations of armor, people, gods, and creatures resetting over hundreds of thousands of years is extremely interesting and cool
There are runes that say something in the lines of "runes of a hero who, upon completing their mission, they'd immediately die", those are the hollows and the unkindled, i believe Elden Ring's world is Dark Souls', only in a very distant future, Bloodborne is the painting in 3, it's literally made of blood
I’m going to disagree with the 3rd part of the theory with demon souls since you DONT add destined death to the elden ring destined death is unleashed no matter what ending you go for you add the mending rune of the death prince contrary to what you might believe they are not the same the mending rune adds life within death while destined death is just the rune that allows death by natural causes and of course it would allow you to kill as another option so from my understanding with the rune of the death prince a human could die, and something like skeletons would be able to live even though I wouldn’t know what would cause a skeleton to be alive but that aside it should be dead in the golden order this would be heretical since the erdtree is supposed absorb the dead, but in this order this would be acceptable If you have any sort of information or ideas feel free to post them
I had the -half assed-thought that the lands between existed in the same world as all other fromsoft games. And those other games (Dark Souls, Sekiro, Bloodborne etc) are parts of the outside world in the lands between. The tarnished, all left the lands between at one point and they could probably have ended up in all the other cities, kingdoms and places from the other games, living in them as regular people, but when the Elden Ring was shattered and the Greater Will called them to return to the lands between they answered and left before the main plot of each of the other games began.
My personal teory, darksouls universe begins in a word that dragons won the war against Marika, they burn the eldtree to the groud and somehow kill the elden beast but without a dragon to be a "elden lord" they become the everlasting dragons.
if i remember correctly in bloodborne there was no influence from the gods until they found the corpse of one down in one of the chalice dungeons which could be like some of the few dungeons we find throughout elden ring. it also stated that the ptheumarians (potentially the numen race) fled leaving some behind this could be because rani was hunting them down and one if not more could have been trapped and in hiding in the lands between.
I was re-reading the gunslinger and it speaks of a misbegotten half Raven half-man. Perhaps they used inspiration from The dark Tower and the eard tree contains every level of existence and just like The dark Tower there is a physical embodiment and it's in the lands between. Last coincidence at the end of The dark Tower Roland starts his journey over again only with something new from his past as you do at the end of elden ring. Also in both worlds the world has moved on.
I rather the theory that DeS is connected to DS/BB, and ER is primordial to all of that, cause inside the Erd Tree we see lots of great trees and the theory suggests that each great tree sustains a world, Lands Between is the main world, the inner most world, and those endless great trees we see inside the erd tree are connected to the other universes, but the souls universe follows a timeline where the order is DeS, DS/BB. So through lulling the old one back to sleep the world would eventually be healed back together and culminate into BB, where they use blood instead of souls. If we kill the Maiden in Black the fog takes over, and this fog is the same fog from DS1. The first flame appears through the old one wooden body, and thus the soul arts come back to life, but now the irrevocable curse of the old one is manifested through Gwyn's fear making him place the dark sign on humanity, accidentally or purposefully linking it to the flame (soul) and begetting the curse mark and the curse of the undead. The interesting part is that humanity is always trying to rid itself from the irrevocable curse of the old one. Eventually DS would start to touch BB universe, through the blood paintings, bevause humanity saw that they could not get rid of the curse and they discovered a possible way to get rid of it, through blood. Thus the paintings are ways to try and scape to BB universe. I never played BB but i know a few things here and there, i believe that there is still a curse on that world, but that is the first tile humanity has a chance of getting rid of the curse altogether, but atba great cost, becoming one of the great ones (or old ones i don't know how are they called). ER comes into play not only through the great tree but the curse Marika put on the tarnished, they would venture out on other lands and die endless deaths and only then be summoned back to the LB. So the irrevocable curse of the old one is the manifestation of Marika's curse of humanity, and Gwyn's curse too.
While the theory probably ain't true, it's a very fun theory! I'm also impressed by how much detail they put into the Dark Souls connection. Frenzied Flame would at first seem like, "Oh yeah, fire and Dark Souls has fire and that's it" but they actually made it make sense.
I always wondered why a few of these games have some areas where alot of trees are in the background. As if another worlds are connected. Bloodborne in the hunters dream, dark souls in the ash lake and elden ring in the battle area of the elden beast
i've played hundreds of hours of elden ring on the ps5, and recently started playing ds3 on my laptop, and have discovered a lot of the enemies from elden ring, such as the gecko fucker things, also existed back in ds3, and even use the same animations as in elden ring.
Hey! Thank you for the support :) here is what I could trace back: part 1 - ua-cam.com/video/MqCFfc9bMk4/v-deo.html part 3 - ua-cam.com/video/x74grrke9qE/v-deo.html Ill keep you updated if I find the other ones!
I always had this hunch that all games could be connected after checking a video on the lore of ER. It is said that Godfrey was cast/sent away with his army/descendants to other realms by Marika only to return once they were "finished" or something like that which led me to believe perhaps Demons' Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro are about a "Tarnished" experiencing and trying to conquer this other realms. I dunno man we need answers and Miyazaki ain't giving the whole picture. Out of these 3 theories the one connecting ER to DarkSouls is the most solid to me.
The description on those “couple of dragon related items in ER” aren’t talking about DS1 it’s talking about how before the age of the Erdtree their was a Great Tree and the Erdtree was a plague of the Great Tree. During that time of the Great Tree dragons ruled and there “Elden Lord” was Plucidasax. But then the Plague in the Erdtree turned The Great Tree into the Erdtree and then Placidasax went into hiding and waited until the dragon god and the Great Tree came back. The age of the dragons and the Great tree was over. And then the elden ring came into existence with the Greater Will. This was the Erdtree’ ages god
the "dark souls takes place before Elden Ring" doesn't have any evidence, because we do know that Lands Between existed way before the Erdtree existed, the item description talks about that time, the time of the Great tree
Theory: Bloodborne is tied to the Lord of Blood Ending. The Game takes place in Miquela's dream. Evidence: Miquela, aka St Trina, appears to be asleep in a cocoon full of blood, influenced by Mogh, who is the avatar of the Formless Mother. In a World that the Formless Mother reigns supreme, blood would eventually corrupt and pervert the users. Argument: The Great Ones arriving are the result of killing Radahn, which allows them to come to the Lands Between, since the Stars can flow again.
The way I look at it is Demons Souls is the start, then Dark Souls, then Bloodborn, Then Elden Ring. It's all held together because I believe the bloodborn universe is the painting at the end of Dark Souls 3
Gael uses rings of light meaning he has evidently at the very least seen the golden order, if not outright studied and followed it to an extent. We also see blackflame very much present in Elden Ring which is connected to Friede and the Church. I brought this up but many just criticized me and assumed it was basically all just a coincidence. That to me is when I knew there was way too many new Soulsbourne fans getting in the mix and murking up the waters - in terms of lore understanding.
I mean I like to meld all of the games together too but From has stated themselves that they are not connected so it’s not unreasonable to agree with the developer of the game says. Now I personally think they just say that myself but it is still the direct comments from the devs. So it’s not unreasonable to abide by that statement.
Anyone else noticed how in the dark souls 1 trailer. It has gaint tall trees just like the arena where you fight the Elden Beast. Thought that might be something worth noting.
funnily enough (unlike other soulsborne games), there are almost no immortal characters in demon's souls. even the seemingly ageless demons only function when eating souls, and those not eating souls go into a slumber very similar to death
i made a connection between the different endings of ER and the various lords from DS1. Nito would be the cursemark of death or dung eaters ending, seeing as he brought death and disease to the world. The witch of Izaleth would be the frenzied flame ending. Gwyn would be the golden order ending, seeing as he ran his kingdom strong and true, like Godfrey from ER. The furtive pygmy would have to be the normal elden lord ending, seeing as he is the most boring lord whos kingdom really only shows up in dlc
I have a head canon that Marika is the main character of one or all of the souls games. Its said she came from another place, and was already godly so idk
Most fromsoft games include references to other lands that seem to exist regardless of the stories events. In elden ring we see areas like farum azula and the haligtree, that exist outside the influence of the erdtree and operate under different rules. That's why I think the games might take place in different continens in the same world
Something you need to keep in mind, however, is that you can learn through the Confessor equipment set in Elden Ring that the erdtree’s influence, or at least the Greater Will’s influence, is present in other areas outside of the Lands Between. Also through item descriptions you learn about some other places outside of the Lands Between like the Land of Reeds and the Badlands. While I haven’t played Sekiro, from what I understand about the game wouldn’t quite line up with the strong associations that the Land of Reeds has with blood and potentially the Formless Mother. It seems unlikely that, with some other areas of the world having been at least thought about a little bit with potentially more areas of the world being learned about in the upcoming DLC, I doubt that the Lands Between is another continent or island in the same world that all the FromSoft games take place in, especially considering the sheer weight and consequence that things seem to carry for the world in FromSoft games (unless I’m unaware of something about Dark Souls’s cinders that have to be rekindled by someone every so often that makes it not such a globally important thing and more localized). I’m by no means an expert, let alone super knowledgeable, on FromSoft games since the only one I’ve spent any sort of considerable time with and have a good understanding of is Elden Ring.
My only thing with the idea that Dark Souls came before Elden Ring is that the dragons in Elden Ring is very clearly are very influenced by the Erdtree. From golden fire to other such item descriptions we know that the Erdtree once favored the dragons. They had their own Elden lord and their own ‘god’ I think it’s more favorable that the dragons took over in a dark colorless world, built in the ashes of the world we left behind. The embers then taking fire and leading Dark Souls.
Guys! I understand that it was confirmed that they are not connected! But we have an amazing community, and it's still fun to make up theories. The player's love to the lore brings great ideas even if they are not correct. And I liked this theory and wanted to share it with you guys! Thank you for clarifying that it's not connected though :)
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I was about to write about how "Miyazaki said that none of the different franchises share a universe" until I saw this comment.
It matters not. Players must be free to be wrong, or else cause and effect doesn't really affect the game, and then it's boring. Souls games are the only ones that manage to let you be wrong in the real world thinking about it too, but also at the same time, has no correct answers necessarily. It's so cool...
Confirmed by who
The Dung Eater's ending leads to all the bad Soul's clones.
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leads to dark souls 2 lol
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It leads to Sekiro because there are butt eaters there too.
There is a shield called the Sun Realm Shield, that drops rarely from skeletal swordsman enemies. It depicts what seems to be Anor Londo, and the item description says that the shield is very old. Implying that dark souls came before elden ring
This might connect dark souls to sekiro🤑🤑🤫🤫
i think it's a shield showing Anor Londo as well, but "the shield is faded, and has seen better days" part makes me think that this was a personal nod to dark souls, saying how it's glory days are faded
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Land of the Reeds = Japan maybe?
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Yes, it's very obviously based on medieval Japan. Land soaked in blood, reeds used as armor, samurai.
@@notspacekeeper sorry I didn't specify,
I meant where sekiro takes place in japan (ashina). Thinking elden ring and sekiro are in the same universe.
Though obviously not because no one in sekiros universe does blood ashes of war. Since weapons related to the land of reeds so blood arts of sorts.
SPOILER ALERT!
The characters on all the soulsborne cover art is actually Patches in their armor…….
For part 1, lending on the idea of Dark Souls before Elden ring, one connection could be the arch dragon peak in ds3. The whole point of that place was basically to wait out the end of the world and repopulate it with dragons. That would lend to the idea that dragons once again ruled over the world.
Regarding the duskborn ending, I remember Fia calling the cursemark of death a hallowbrand. I vaguely remember the darksign in ds3 being called a hollowbrand. Funny connection there.
There are multiple similarities between Archdragon Peak and Crumbling Farum Azula...
I thought to myself that IF there's something like a joint timeline, Bloodborne takes place after the events of Dark Souls 3 because the curse becomes... bloodborne, through the actions of Gael.
Elden Ring, in turn, takes place within the painting that was painted with the blood of the Dark Soul.
This would explain why the game world is so picturesque and at times, not logcial.
And everything in the beginning cutscene is painted
@@toby7712 Good find! I didn't even notice.
The painting theory is why I think ER happens after DS3
I'd literally cry tears of joy to find out that its all connected. A literaly masterpiece in every sense of the word.
Sekiro is the land of reeds?
Miyazaki watching this: interesting
Not a fan of this theory but I totally loved the introduction of new theories and ideas. There is so much repetitive Elden Ring content out there so this feels sooooooo refreshing.
This was a very good vid, definitely got me thinking about possible connections between the games. I now have a theory that the Moon Presence could possibly be Ranni, warped by her long travels through the stars only to return to find the world in the grasp of different outer gods hence why MP wants hunters to kill them. Just a rough theory tho
Super Interesting. I'm glad you liked the video!
That’s actually pretty clever man. I like that idea.
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The full moon ending into bloodborne can be supported with the pthumerians aprearing similar to the albinauric of old in the eternal cities (both found underground and both worshipping the stars and outer beings like the moon. Also the moon ending could relate to the outer god moon presance which ranni interacted with unknowingly and set in motion the rise of the beast curse and their hunters
I loved this theory, infact it's now my head cannon, for demon's souls, since it's the age of duskborne, and since immortality was gone from the world, the Erdtree could have also witherd away, its roots deep underground, forming into what is known as the old one, or something like that, I mean, its a coincidence that the old one is a demonic tree.
I think a really interesting note to add to evidence of them existing in a "multiverse" like existence, is the Millwood knights in dark souls 3. It says in their armor descriptions that they worship "the ethereal Oak" which very much describes the erdtree. However we are never introduced to this tree in dark souls, yet the imagery is in shields and other armor as well. But most notable, the Millwood knights are found in the painted world, indicating they are lost or without home. These could be some of the tarnished that were hounded from the lands between.
Mill woods remind me a lot of the smurfs with the damn aimbot
The problem here is that the Erdtree isn't an oak but a beech tree.
Honestly none of them makes sense if you look each case in depth. It is stated very clearly that the Frenzied flame melts all life away into a single huge mass once again, if you think that life could spawn again from this "Oneness" and create specifically the world of Dark Souls despite both working with different laws of reality, you may as well say any other of the games could have come from this ending.
Ranni's ending doesn't get rid of the Greater Will, it will always exist unless the world itself is destroyed, is the manifestation of the collective consciousness wishing for order in a chaotic world, kinda like in Berserk where "God" is the manifestation of humanity's wish for an explanation to their suffering. What Ranni did is get the Elden Ring out of mortal or outer god's reach so no one can play being the King of the world anymore and prevent anyone from taking a stupid desition for all of us, like removing the Rune of Death or literally shattering reality.
The Dusk ending doesn't connect with Demon's souls at all, there are not demons in Elden Ring to begin with, both worlds function differently and the guy just made the connecting because of the grim and bleak aesthetic
When I saw fia sitting at the Elden throne for the first time i couldn’t but notice the similarities between her and the “the old one” from demon souls so I believe that that ending starts demon souls
the best part of this kind of theory is just the UNENDING SHITSHOW Patches has seen. 'cause it'd mean it's the same guy. every time. somehow this immortal little bastard has gone through a million years of the world going from one kind of hell to another and he's still finding it fun to kick people down pits.
bless him.
I mean...he's gotta find some small things to enjoy... after dying and coming back to life. xD
He first appeared in Armored Core For Answer which takes place in a future version of our world.
@@Posaydal man fell into a black hole and got spat out into the Soulsborne timeline or something then! :D
I think elden ring makes way more sense as a prequel to dark souls with the frenzied flame ending. The world was burned to ash but eventually fire arose again. All the souls the erdtree absorbed went back into grey nothingness and eventually awoke as dragons
One super important detail that sort of confirms to me that DS3's painting at the end of Ashes of Ariandel/The Ringed City leads into Elden Ring:
The Two Fingers, who commune with Metyr and then the Greater Will.. Remember the Painter Girl in the Painted World of Ariandel? Do you remember how, upon first discovering her, she is seemingly painting or etching something into the table with her finger? Well, while there are brushes and paint scattered on the table beside where she sits and paints later... I believe she paints the world all **by hand** after receiving the Dark Soul and the flames she desired. This is why the 'Fingers' have that sort of shape and why finger iconography is so rampant in the world. The world of Elden Ring is literally hand crafted-- finger painted even.
The Greater Will is no longer communicating with the fingers because the Painter Girl has died in the outside world, succumbing to the flame, her painting completed.
(Bonus: Look at her painting btw.... Is that... The Gate of Divinity from the DLC?? Where Marika ascended to Godhood?? We see in the promotional CGI trailer that it used to be blood red before Miquella attempted to use it.)
Good one!
OMG!!! My mind is blooOooooOOoooooOOooown...
I once came up with an idea that in a next game it could be all coming together, and that there would be classes to choose from every game.
Having Demon Slayers, Beast Hunters, Shinobi, Tarnished and Ashen ones.
I don’t think there have to be more sub classes of each game, as you can spec the way you want. So in a way all start with depraved or wretched class but having the different leveling system from the different games.
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It would be interesting to see those worlds quite literally collide, perhaps through being connected by the arch trees seen in each game. I also wonder what the final boss of that game would look like, as it would have to be one that would be much greater than any final boss from the previous games, and perhaps even a final boss to close out the entire from soft universe as a whole. Though, that will probably just remain as a nice head cannon, I doubt that they actually planned that.
@@Bon_fyre the final boss is just the Royaler rat vanguard with bigger fatter rats
His accent plus the music gave me the vibes of the best of assassin's creed franchise
This is a great video🤌🏻
it´s incredioble how a small channel could make such a good video
I just started my journey :) thanks for the support!
@@ther3alkuskus big success for you
I figured they were all different levels of hell like Dante’s inferno connected by the trees.
My headcanon is the timeline is this. Demon's Souls bad ending where the old one shrouds the whole planet in fog leveling all manmade objects to dust and thus begins the ancient era of dragons and the start of Dark Souls. Bloodborne occurs between DS1 and DS2 as one of the many cycles, Bloodborne's influence made apparent in DS3 in many item descriptions and boss fights. Then the age of darkness ending occurs in DS3 and everything is consumed by the deep. Eventually the deep recedes and the start of Elden Ring begins. Items, weapons, armor, and concepts combined, twisted, and reformed in the deep the most durable of concepts being dragons who are the first to reappear and thus the Elden Ring story begins the concept of the age of fire combined with Bloodborne and Demon's Souls elements to become the Erd Tree
i believe in the Ash Lake from DS1 theory wich is: all the soulsborne are related because of Ash Lake having those trees wich are a "gate" to another world. And i think that in the ants underground place there's a tree related to that
I never really thought about how the worlds of the souls series may be related, but this video gave me a fun "what if" moment. Good job; your content is entertaining.
loved the video., the pacing, the narration.. ambient, attention to videoproduction details... love the theory, fellow Tarnished you've earned a sub!
Thank you!!!
All things yearn to converge. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Armoured Core - they are prequels to Elden Ring.
Demon's Souls is Ranni's nightmare - her fears of being a Fool's Idol bound in service to the Two Fingers
Dark Souls is Godwyn's nightmare - keeping lit the flame of frenzy
Bloodborne is Miquella's nightmare upon the altar of blood.
Sekiro is Malenia's nightmare - a warrior tired of a lifetime of pain but unable to stop fighting in service of her lord
Armoured Core 1-5 is Melina's nightmare - the Gloam-eyed queen is a queen of Ravens forced from her home and contracted in the service of others to survive. Armoured Core 6, I suspect, is the closest FromSoft will get to following up the Frenzy Flame ending.
I do think that it is possible that a Bloodborne 2 will be made - possibly with ties to Rykard (hopefully with more mushrooms). But overall I think that the Age of Stars ending is telegraphing that FromSoft is working on developing a new IP with a sci-fi theme.
Thank you for this amazing idea! You have a very interesting point there.
Armored core are prequel to Elden Ring because you hire mercenaries? Is MGS V a prequel to Elden Ring too?
@@MemoriesLP lol, you can't even tell what games are in FromSoft's catalogue. Sad.
No bloodborne to Miyazaki hates making sequels I’m pretty sure there trying to just make new IPs
@@miirshroom It is all a master plan from Kojima. He actually works for from software too, and his MGS V was a prequel to Armored core, because metal gear has mercenaries and big robots
Dung eater ending leads to ds2
Rannis ending is misunderstood because a mistranslation that couldn't be changed in time to numerous voice lines already recorded for release. She doesn't bring a dark ending, she takes the Elden ring far away on a journey to destinations unknown, which you take with her, into fear, doubt, and loneliness, because you will leave behind all you know. She's doing this to keep it far from mankind, so their troubles and biases, and natural imperfections cannot corrupt the order. This can be confirmed with a simple Google search. The game is designed in Japanese, the dialogue is written in Japanese, and the first draft is in Japanese. They have to port it to America to be translated, which was rushed because the release was shortened. Thus leading to errors in the complex Japanese languages translation. Slight changes of tone can mean entirely different things, so it is very easy to mistranslate if rushed. And none of it could be fixed because they would have to fly the voice actors out again to re-record every line.....
So no, it's not blood borne.
Age of frenzy is not dark souls, because frenzy flame is madness, not a physical flame, but the anguish of madness focused into a ray that happens to set things on fire. So, you don't keep this thing alight... Because it's not a fire. It's a sentient being/eldritch horror capable of mass manipulation and destruction. And your dumbass fell for it's tricks for a couple highly gimicky spells.
These are fun to think about but there's lore that explains things. And these only work if you look at everything face value. That's like me saying Halo must be the past life of Destinys universe, because they both have ghosts. They aren't even comparable things because of vast differences.
Frenzy isn't even a physical fire, its driving someone so insane their brain starts shooting pure agony from their eyes (hence the damage to you) that sets things on fire because the intensity. Magic in this game is built on intent. And the 3 fingers made the flames of frenzy as intent, because it's not true flames, it too can burn the erdtree, just like the godskin apostles black flames. The Erdtree is impenetrable, it can only be broken with 1 of 3 kinds of fire:
1. Enchanted fire (Black Flame)
2. Cursed fire (Frenzy Flame)
3. Sacred fire (Giants Flame)
Otherwise you aren't getting in. The only thing close to actual fire is Giants Flame. It's extremely hot and is derived from deep magma magic and flames from the intensity of the suns surface. The other two are interesting...ones real fire enhanced and imbued with the rune of destined death. I'm a nerd. Gnight
Don’t know why this comment didn’t get more attention
That's an interesting theory to think about. Maybe the immediate question to follow this theory might be, if this is true, then which world (game) would come from the "true ending" and which ones would be something akin to "what if" stories?
Or even, could any of these endings happen at the same time (or close to it) to bring more than one of these timelines into existence and maybe take place in different parts of the world?
Love that games can have such interesting lore that people can talk about and theorize on for years and maybe even get things answered eventually.
I would say...they are all happening at the same time, just a different fork in the road if you will.
I've always theorized that the Frenzied Flame ending kicked off Dark Souls, I mean you even have the "Daughters of Chaos"! Also, I believe that the game Sekiro, could be the Land of Reeds. "A land long been locked in a miserable civil war, during which time it has remained alienated from the cultures of its neighbors. Little wonder that the entire nation has succumbed to blood-soaked madness."
Amazing video bro, cant wait for more
Every time this theory gets brought back up again with every new release I get just a little closer to ending it all
this was REALLY well made
Sekiro's true ending was the death of sekiro. But in the dragon's return ending, they set out on journey to west, to find out the origins of the divine dragon and the divine tree. And the fun thing is, the way we end up in crumbling farum azula and reach dragonlord placidusax, is a lot similar to how we reach the fountainhead palace and reach The divine realm.
I just want to say thank you for captioning your stuff, as someone who has ADHD and is also hard of hearing, it was really nice to have something to help me focus better :) Your editing is also very good! Earned a subscribe :)
Also, your pronunciation and spelling are doing very nicely, good luck with your future work :)
I'm super happy you enjoyed! Thank you!
Oh god how much i love the 1.25 speed option in youtube, this video become so much better.
Of course Miyazaki denies it. If he confirmed it, it would be boring and nobody would come up with such theories anymore. He is clever
At the very least, I currently believe these games are in the same universe or at least multiverse because Patches The Spider is in more than just Bloodborne although not always a spider.
if this theory is true it makes sense and it would make all these games alot more cooler
Before I even watch this video, I've always loved the idea of the universes being intertwined somehow, and to me, the arch trees were the key to that
I'm not entirely sure about demon's souls since I haven't completed it yet, but in ds1-3, BB, and elden ring, there's this common theme of ancient trees or pillars, some kind of almost void with pillars rising into the distance
To me it feels like the Erdtrees just are archtrees and by extension different worlds bound together in the void
I like to believe the soulsborne era of FromSoftware is a multiverse. One universe built its cosmology around the nature of time and change, another filled with horrors no man should ever have to be made aware of, one universe built to canonize the mythology of a real country, etc
I think that the Elden Ring item description that talks about when dragons ruled the land was talking about how Placidusax was Elden Lord before the age of the Erdtree Godfrey is only first Elden Lord of the age of the Erdtree
The flow of time in Lordran is convoluted indeed. I believe there is no true beginning or ending point as far as a timeline goes. They all exist, together and separately, tangled and sometimes crossing into each other. While I love the theory that they are all directly linked to one another in a linear fashion, it just doesn’t make sense thematically. The Erdtree has burned millions of times, the fire linked until everything was ash. These worlds are just blips on an endless and timeless entanglement and exist neither before or after one another.
Great video btw :)
It’s a ring.
game creator: All these games are standalone and occur in their own universe
youtuber: Its all connected XDXDXD
Personally I always thought that Demon’s Souls followed the Dark Lord ending in DS1 (a human is in charge so that just makes sense to me) and the link the fire ending was what eventually causes DS3 with DS2 happening either way. The opening cutscene of Elden Ring talks about ‘crossing the fog’ to the Lands Between so it might follow Demon’s Souls Maiden Killer ending as that causes the world to be lost in a deep fog or be concurrent with the era of Colourless fog that appears in D’sS. Bloodborne could then follow the slumbering Old One ending as Soul Arts are lost with that ending and BB doesn’t have the same magic system.
I’m kind of curious where people would say Kings Field comes in this series though, there’s no reason to not include it really.
The little human brain is always looking for connections and deeper meanings. And as it does so, it constructs those connections and puts deeper meaning into them.
A Soul series crossover would be epic
Late to the party gere but it's definitely all connected. FromSoftware are too creative to be as lazy as use Elden Ring enemy's with the literal same name and appearance as Dark Souls for example
My theory is Elden Ring is the beginning, but as we know time is not linear in the game, also the end. Il try and explain as short as I can:
My theory is for Golden Order and Age of Fracture endings, Elden Ring universe continues as it is, with the outer gods happy this leads to a good future.
Frenzied Flame, inevitably kills everything with little existing for thousands of years. However, as time goes past, the flame is extinguished, leaving the age of the ancients and a world shrouded in fog (smoke), with just the immortal dragons having survived and ruled the world. Then, from an ember, the fire restarted and some beings underneath the world, came into contact with the fire and gained great power from lord souls (great runes), and rose up back to the surface. So the dark souls story takes place. The story then ends, with the painter painting a new world for Gael, of which, is then Elden Ring again, which is the outer gods way of starting again and rectifying. This would explain why so many creature's are the same, weapons and artifacts, plus things being named after Gael.
Age of the stars then leads to Bloodbourne, where at the end we wake from a dream, to cross the fog as tarnished.
Age of duskborn in my eyes leads to sekiro, like the theory in the video states where
beings are trying to get immortality back through what seems to be a form Dragon Communion. We know sekiro is set in Land of Ashina. Ashi, translates to Reed in English. All of the Samurai, Okina Mask and some Katanas in Elden Ring come from "Land of Reed" in their description, which gives some indication the place Sekiro is set is present in Elden Rings universe. And in the Return Sekiro ending, we travel to the west, to the divine dragons origin, likely, the lands between.
Actually the “west” in Sekiro is China. Buddha is canon in that game
Age of stars is Armored Core.
To add to rabidductchman's comment, at the beginning of Elden Ring we awaken in a land covered in ash similar to the world state we see at the end of Dark Souls 3's second DLC
There are multiple similarities between Archdragon Peak and Crumbling Farum Azula...
About time some UA-camr talked about this. Had a friend of mine spin this theory in my head months ago and it made almost too much sense to ignore. Couple hits and misses, but the theory can be a well versed probability.
I adore this theory, even if it's likely not true. The idea of these generations of armor, people, gods, and creatures resetting over hundreds of thousands of years is extremely interesting and cool
Your production quality is off the charts, you have a made a fan today good sir.
Thank you!!!
There are runes that say something in the lines of "runes of a hero who, upon completing their mission, they'd immediately die", those are the hollows and the unkindled, i believe Elden Ring's world is Dark Souls', only in a very distant future, Bloodborne is the painting in 3, it's literally made of blood
I’m going to disagree with the 3rd part of the theory with demon souls since you DONT add destined death to the elden ring destined death is unleashed no matter what ending you go for you add the mending rune of the death prince contrary to what you might believe they are not the same the
mending rune adds life within death while destined death is just the rune that allows death by natural causes and of course it would allow you to kill as another option so from my understanding with the rune of the death prince a human could die, and something like skeletons would be able to live even though I wouldn’t know what would cause a skeleton to be alive but that aside it should be dead in the golden order this would be heretical since the erdtree is supposed absorb the dead, but in this order this would be acceptable
If you have any sort of information or ideas feel free to post them
I had the -half assed-thought that the lands between existed in the same world as all other fromsoft games.
And those other games (Dark Souls, Sekiro, Bloodborne etc) are parts of the outside world in the lands between.
The tarnished, all left the lands between at one point and they could probably have ended up in all the other cities, kingdoms and places from the other games, living in them as regular people, but when the Elden Ring was shattered and the Greater Will called them to return to the lands between they answered and left before the main plot of each of the other games began.
My personal teory, darksouls universe begins in a word that dragons won the war against Marika, they burn the eldtree to the groud and somehow kill the elden beast but without a dragon to be a "elden lord" they become the everlasting dragons.
Lmao the frenzied flame bois was wearing bull goat
if i remember correctly in bloodborne there was no influence from the gods until they found the corpse of one down in one of the chalice dungeons which could be like some of the few dungeons we find throughout elden ring. it also stated that the ptheumarians (potentially the numen race) fled leaving some behind this could be because rani was hunting them down and one if not more could have been trapped and in hiding in the lands between.
I was re-reading the gunslinger and it speaks of a misbegotten half Raven half-man. Perhaps they used inspiration from The dark Tower and the eard tree contains every level of existence and just like The dark Tower there is a physical embodiment and it's in the lands between. Last coincidence at the end of The dark Tower Roland starts his journey over again only with something new from his past as you do at the end of elden ring. Also in both worlds the world has moved on.
Awesome video your voice in the intro gave me chills, definitely subscribing!
Always loved kuakus, singular or multiple ❤
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Funny. I had this theory when ER came out but it seemed silly to bring it up. Glad someone else made that connection
I rather the theory that DeS is connected to DS/BB, and ER is primordial to all of that, cause inside the Erd Tree we see lots of great trees and the theory suggests that each great tree sustains a world, Lands Between is the main world, the inner most world, and those endless great trees we see inside the erd tree are connected to the other universes, but the souls universe follows a timeline where the order is DeS, DS/BB.
So through lulling the old one back to sleep the world would eventually be healed back together and culminate into BB, where they use blood instead of souls. If we kill the Maiden in Black the fog takes over, and this fog is the same fog from DS1. The first flame appears through the old one wooden body, and thus the soul arts come back to life, but now the irrevocable curse of the old one is manifested through Gwyn's fear making him place the dark sign on humanity, accidentally or purposefully linking it to the flame (soul) and begetting the curse mark and the curse of the undead.
The interesting part is that humanity is always trying to rid itself from the irrevocable curse of the old one. Eventually DS would start to touch BB universe, through the blood paintings, bevause humanity saw that they could not get rid of the curse and they discovered a possible way to get rid of it, through blood. Thus the paintings are ways to try and scape to BB universe.
I never played BB but i know a few things here and there, i believe that there is still a curse on that world, but that is the first tile humanity has a chance of getting rid of the curse altogether, but atba great cost, becoming one of the great ones (or old ones i don't know how are they called).
ER comes into play not only through the great tree but the curse Marika put on the tarnished, they would venture out on other lands and die endless deaths and only then be summoned back to the LB. So the irrevocable curse of the old one is the manifestation of Marika's curse of humanity, and Gwyn's curse too.
I already tied Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne in my head. I'm curious to see how you tie in Elden Ring.
While the theory probably ain't true, it's a very fun theory! I'm also impressed by how much detail they put into the Dark Souls connection. Frenzied Flame would at first seem like, "Oh yeah, fire and Dark Souls has fire and that's it" but they actually made it make sense.
I always wondered why a few of these games have some areas where alot of trees are in the background. As if another worlds are connected. Bloodborne in the hunters dream, dark souls in the ash lake and elden ring in the battle area of the elden beast
i've played hundreds of hours of elden ring on the ps5, and recently started playing ds3 on my laptop, and have discovered a lot of the enemies from elden ring, such as the gecko fucker things, also existed back in ds3, and even use the same animations as in elden ring.
fromsoft would probably say we're reading way too far into this and that elden ring is just a seperate universe or something.
Imagine if all the souls games took place in different settings across one planet, just in different eras of history!
Great video ! That's some quality stuff!
Is there a list of the soundtracks used in the video ? I was quite touched by the one of the first party !
Hey! Thank you for the support :)
here is what I could trace back:
part 1 - ua-cam.com/video/MqCFfc9bMk4/v-deo.html
part 3 - ua-cam.com/video/x74grrke9qE/v-deo.html
Ill keep you updated if I find the other ones!
@@ther3alkuskus oh fantastic ! Thanks a lot !
personally I think ER is after DS3, we can find the sun realm shield in a worn state which depicts a certain city
I hope they make a final game that explains everything or maybe a book
Also just because ranni plans on removing their influence that doesn’t necessarily mean she succeeds or is able to keep up that fight forever.
Absolutely amazing video 🔥 you now have another subscriber.
Saw you're sorta new at this. Great job on this video, keep it up!
I always had this hunch that all games could be connected after checking a video on the lore of ER. It is said that Godfrey was cast/sent away with his army/descendants to other realms by Marika only to return once they were "finished" or something like that which led me to believe perhaps Demons' Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro are about a "Tarnished" experiencing and trying to conquer this other realms. I dunno man we need answers and Miyazaki ain't giving the whole picture. Out of these 3 theories the one connecting ER to DarkSouls is the most solid to me.
The description on those “couple of dragon related items in ER” aren’t talking about DS1 it’s talking about how before the age of the Erdtree their was a Great Tree and the Erdtree was a plague of the Great Tree. During that time of the Great Tree dragons ruled and there “Elden Lord” was Plucidasax. But then the Plague in the Erdtree turned The Great Tree into the Erdtree and then Placidasax went into hiding and waited until the dragon god and the Great Tree came back. The age of the dragons and the Great tree was over. And then the elden ring came into existence with the Greater Will. This was the Erdtree’ ages god
George R.R Martin Confirmed in a interview that elden ring was a Sequel to Darksouls 3
the "dark souls takes place before Elden Ring" doesn't have any evidence, because we do know that Lands Between existed way before the Erdtree existed, the item description talks about that time, the time of the Great tree
Theory: Bloodborne is tied to the Lord of Blood Ending. The Game takes place in Miquela's dream.
Evidence: Miquela, aka St Trina, appears to be asleep in a cocoon full of blood, influenced by Mogh, who is the avatar of the Formless Mother.
In a World that the Formless Mother reigns supreme, blood would eventually corrupt and pervert the users.
Argument: The Great Ones arriving are the result of killing Radahn, which allows them to come to the Lands Between, since the Stars can flow again.
The way I look at it is Demons Souls is the start, then Dark Souls, then Bloodborn, Then Elden Ring.
It's all held together because I believe the bloodborn universe is the painting at the end of Dark Souls 3
Gael uses rings of light meaning he has evidently at the very least seen the golden order, if not outright studied and followed it to an extent. We also see blackflame very much present in Elden Ring which is connected to Friede and the Church. I brought this up but many just criticized me and assumed it was basically all just a coincidence. That to me is when I knew there was way too many new Soulsbourne fans getting in the mix and murking up the waters - in terms of lore understanding.
I mean I like to meld all of the games together too but From has stated themselves that they are not connected so it’s not unreasonable to agree with the developer of the game says. Now I personally think they just say that myself but it is still the direct comments from the devs. So it’s not unreasonable to abide by that statement.
I’m surprised people don’t talk about the references to rot in the ds3 dlcs. It’s the first thing I thought of when I heard the term scarlet rot.
Beautiful video! I love it
The tree in blight town could have been the erdtree in Elden ring. After all lyndel sewers do look a lot like blight town
The stories are played out on our earth, because the ingame moons look the same as our moon.
Anyone else noticed how in the dark souls 1 trailer. It has gaint tall trees just like the arena where you fight the Elden Beast. Thought that might be something worth noting.
Firelink shrine will be in the DLC and i WILL shit my pants.
funnily enough (unlike other soulsborne games), there are almost no immortal characters in demon's souls.
even the seemingly ageless demons only function when eating souls, and those not eating souls go into a slumber very similar to death
i made a connection between the different endings of ER and the various lords from DS1. Nito would be the cursemark of death or dung eaters ending, seeing as he brought death and disease to the world. The witch of Izaleth would be the frenzied flame ending. Gwyn would be the golden order ending, seeing as he ran his kingdom strong and true, like Godfrey from ER. The furtive pygmy would have to be the normal elden lord ending, seeing as he is the most boring lord whos kingdom really only shows up in dlc
The elden ring map does kinda resemble the ringed city mountain range if you think about it and the city would be in the middle
the bad ending of demon souls has the world be covered in fog, dark souls starts covered in fog
I have a head canon that Marika is the main character of one or all of the souls games. Its said she came from another place, and was already godly so idk
Most fromsoft games include references to other lands that seem to exist regardless of the stories events. In elden ring we see areas like farum azula and the haligtree, that exist outside the influence of the erdtree and operate under different rules. That's why I think the games might take place in different continens in the same world
Something you need to keep in mind, however, is that you can learn through the Confessor equipment set in Elden Ring that the erdtree’s influence, or at least the Greater Will’s influence, is present in other areas outside of the Lands Between. Also through item descriptions you learn about some other places outside of the Lands Between like the Land of Reeds and the Badlands. While I haven’t played Sekiro, from what I understand about the game wouldn’t quite line up with the strong associations that the Land of Reeds has with blood and potentially the Formless Mother. It seems unlikely that, with some other areas of the world having been at least thought about a little bit with potentially more areas of the world being learned about in the upcoming DLC, I doubt that the Lands Between is another continent or island in the same world that all the FromSoft games take place in, especially considering the sheer weight and consequence that things seem to carry for the world in FromSoft games (unless I’m unaware of something about Dark Souls’s cinders that have to be rekindled by someone every so often that makes it not such a globally important thing and more localized).
I’m by no means an expert, let alone super knowledgeable, on FromSoft games since the only one I’ve spent any sort of considerable time with and have a good understanding of is Elden Ring.
I just want the irithyll straight sword in ER
My only thing with the idea that Dark Souls came before Elden Ring is that the dragons in Elden Ring is very clearly are very influenced by the Erdtree. From golden fire to other such item descriptions we know that the Erdtree once favored the dragons. They had their own Elden lord and their own ‘god’ I think it’s more favorable that the dragons took over in a dark colorless world, built in the ashes of the world we left behind. The embers then taking fire and leading Dark Souls.