The Right Way to Pull Counter in Boxing with Jared Robinson

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2022
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  • @notoriousquinnb
    @notoriousquinnb 2 роки тому +132

    The return of the LEG MUSCLES clip!

  • @DrGetgood
    @DrGetgood 2 роки тому +9

    *"LEG MOUSCLES"*
    never gets old

  • @gw1357
    @gw1357 2 роки тому +34

    The lean-in deception (attack by drawing in JKD) is a great trick. Always great, common sense, potent stuff on this channel.

  • @jujiwastaken
    @jujiwastaken 2 роки тому +3

    I love the sound at 0:50

  • @ives3572
    @ives3572 2 роки тому +7

    Good timing, rhythm and fast physical reflexes are obviously key to this move/technique

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +3

      You just need one of the three.

  • @juanmiguel5994
    @juanmiguel5994 2 роки тому +6

    You had me at “Leg Muscle”!

  • @jonathansmith9291
    @jonathansmith9291 2 роки тому +23

    Recently watched a Forgotten Weapons video on WW1 trench warfare melee weapons. I couldn’t help but imagine the Hard2hurt version of that video and how much cooler it would be with someone familiar with close quarters/self defense weapons. I would love to see Mike’s flashlight expertise applied to more historical but less “traditional martial arts” self defense weapons.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +15

      Tell em they need me on the show.

  • @harlemdeni
    @harlemdeni 2 роки тому +5

    LEG MOSSLES!!!!

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV 2 роки тому +58

    Next level: Don't even lean back, take the jab, at the same time throw your punch. Saves time and even closer distance!

    • @jaketheasianguy3307
      @jaketheasianguy3307 2 роки тому +11

      The true brawler style

    • @buttox
      @buttox 2 роки тому

      The good ol face block. You can gas out your opponent with it too!

    • @therandomdickhead5744
      @therandomdickhead5744 2 роки тому +5

      Ippo style lol

    • @ForwardSynthesis
      @ForwardSynthesis 2 роки тому +5

      Next level: anticipate their jab and precog counter-punch into their jab, breaking both your hands. The benefit is... uh... um.

  • @fireeaglefitnessmartialart935
    @fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 2 роки тому +8

    When I was learning the pull back, I typically did take the step, instinctively. Or I used a shoulder roll with the pull back...after I learned the shoulder roll. And I'll practice both.
    There's another version I learned through capoeira, where you pivot into a more balanced stance, and then pivot back.

  • @corvoadrian6970
    @corvoadrian6970 2 роки тому +33

    Just always remember to pull before is too late 😏

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +28

      Well, the last possible second is best, but it's safer to be early rather than late

    • @granddaddy_funk
      @granddaddy_funk 2 роки тому +1

      Was this a whoosh? 😆

    • @WhoaBuddyOfficial
      @WhoaBuddyOfficial 2 роки тому

      @@granddaddy_funk depends on how you read it 👀

    • @combatsportlover6919
      @combatsportlover6919 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt The way you explain it at the 4:00 mark with the lean in is the way that Floyd Mayweather almost always does it. He gives you a target to hit and baits the jab so he can land the counter.

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io 2 роки тому +1

      We're.... Uh.... Talking about boxing?
      Right?

  • @9usuck0
    @9usuck0 2 роки тому +7

    We like talking about our centers because it's the easiest and most broadly covering way of talking about leg work and balance.

    • @9usuck0
      @9usuck0 2 роки тому +2

      If you always make sure to keep your center under you, your foot work and movement will less likely compromise your ability to strike.
      Assuming you aren't at a Mc dojo, which in karate and Kung fu is a real heavy concern. Lol

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 2 роки тому +6

    The thumbnail looks like a Victorian era boxing manual. The actual clip not so much 🤣

  • @serpenttao
    @serpenttao 2 роки тому +5

    80 seconds in, Liking the video for the return of the king: LAIG MASCOLS!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +3

      I say it every day of my life. I need to say it in ever video.

  • @vinkelitz
    @vinkelitz 2 роки тому +8

    When I lean back, I like to incorporate rolling of the lead shoulder too for extra protection, and to load my hips for the right hand.
    However, I don't like leaning back most of the time. It's just not a good position to counter from. I'd take a slip-uppercut over a pull-uppercut any day of the week

  • @varencilator
    @varencilator 2 роки тому +2

    Jared doing that look right as the video ends feels memeworthy

  • @martialmarauder7731
    @martialmarauder7731 2 роки тому

    Quick, thorough and to the point!
    Thanx & God bless y'all!🥊

  • @-007-Warzone-MW3-MW2
    @-007-Warzone-MW3-MW2 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great simple to understand concepts love it man thanks for the knowledge

  • @bladecommando
    @bladecommando 2 роки тому

    Always fun listening to Jared

  • @abroomster
    @abroomster 2 роки тому +5

    Leg muscle needs to be a shirt.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +6

      Shorts maybe

    • @abroomster
      @abroomster 2 роки тому +1

      @@hard2hurt Shut up and take my money!

  • @kennethduff248
    @kennethduff248 2 роки тому +2

    When I pull counter I step back with just my rear foot as I pull ,then as I counter I slip my head slightly off the center line while throwing my punch,(to avoid a head on collision with my opponents punch) then I sometimes roll under afterwards and step out. That way of pull countering I just explained works well for me when I don't have a reach advantage and keeps me from getting clipped especially as my head is coming forward as I punch. There is several ways to anything in boxing (I'm an amateur boxer for 13 years) that's what I love about the sweet science.
    You can also shoulder roll as you pull for extra protection, but I'd rather pull with my hands up ,then slip as I spring my upper body forward with the counter. I counter with straight left or straight right hand. But when I slip I slip very slightly, just enough for a punch down the center to skin the side of my head. It's a game of inches not miles.
    That's my experience and 2 cents,
    Thank you and good pull technique on this video

  • @jacobshort621
    @jacobshort621 2 роки тому

    Favorite channel and also got an awesome flashlight because of a review as a matter of fact

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 2 роки тому +2

    I’m one of those Karate guys with the center 🤣🤣🤣👍
    And I learned a lot from this video too. Good stuff!

  • @Bevallalom
    @Bevallalom 2 роки тому +2

    Great timing! I will have sparring session today. I will surely put it to testing. I do this leaning (or lean-in deception) instinctively but I have never trained it as such.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +3

      Yeah make it intentional

  • @metrolinamartialarts
    @metrolinamartialarts 2 роки тому +3

    Me. I use the center. Or it uses me. Not sure.

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 11 місяців тому

    Great Guys

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative 2 роки тому

    I love that Jared used the old school "riding the jab" statement. Icy mike used this in street beefs several times!

  • @zulphur
    @zulphur 2 роки тому

    Great vid !!!! Need to work on the step back !

  • @matthewdowney8562
    @matthewdowney8562 2 роки тому

    big props on landing that part as the ahole boss in the new Adam Sandler movie hustle🤣🤣🤣

  • @blainestevens6701
    @blainestevens6701 2 роки тому +1

    I just noticed how much you mention Street Fighter in your videos, lol. Was cool seeing that arcade machine in the garage video. Ever get into Arcade Sticks? Spent a pretty penny tricking out a Hitbox Cross Up. Arcade stick but with a D-Pad for extra movement and input options. Can flash store 14 or so profiles for different games. And you can change lever/button priority, or add a camera button for games like Breath of the Wild or the like.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +2

      We used the green stick on dreamcast... or custom Mas sticks in my day. I haven't revisited sticks since i became an adult.

  • @nomchomsley854
    @nomchomsley854 2 роки тому

    1:09 Genius cut

  • @willarcher2353
    @willarcher2353 2 роки тому

    Video on learning and following combinations faster and better in class? I always have trouble remembering the combinations in class even though they were taught 2 minutes ago

  • @3gnomesinacoat448
    @3gnomesinacoat448 2 роки тому

    thumbnail is hilarious.

  • @ASSman864
    @ASSman864 Рік тому

    Best to study is holyfield, he doesnt lean back much almost stays upright but he steps back just to where the opponents glove is ever slightly touching his own face. Hes one of the best counterpunchers but def one of the best at pull counter

  • @granddaddy_funk
    @granddaddy_funk 2 роки тому +1

    Lol I love when two people on Worldstar look exactly like 2 deers fighting for a doe LMFAO

  • @ericksanchez9363
    @ericksanchez9363 2 роки тому +1

    Goddamn was I not the only one who had to rewind 5 times to hear "your leg muscle"

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      It is sweet, sweet sound.

  • @Choppy_Z
    @Choppy_Z 2 роки тому +2

    The thumbnail lmfao

  • @CombatSelfDefense
    @CombatSelfDefense 2 роки тому +1

    THE LEG MOSEL!!!

  • @ggggggasd
    @ggggggasd 2 роки тому

    That thumbnail 😂

  • @michaelsponseller5337
    @michaelsponseller5337 2 роки тому +1

    little mac down special moment

  • @fishngiggles5272
    @fishngiggles5272 2 роки тому

    World star!

  • @LetholdusKaspyr
    @LetholdusKaspyr 2 роки тому

    One thing I'd add is, don't lean back a lot. If someone gets a read on you leaning back, they can anticipate and counter by dropping a fist right on your sternum, and then you're on the ground.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      It doesn't work that way. It looks like that's a thing if you're just watching demos... but that's not what happens.

    • @LetholdusKaspyr
      @LetholdusKaspyr 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt That, or I've done it before. Maybe the guy was doing it incorrectly, but I turned an elbow up, dipped my knees, and knocked him over backward. Since then, I started responding to backward-leaning defenses by just pushing in and hip-checking them, which is hilarious.

  • @oldschoolmachinest
    @oldschoolmachinest 2 роки тому

    Regarding southpaw and conventional stances I tend to be left handed in fine motor skills and right handed and right legged in raw power. I tend to favor the right hander’s stance when sparing… It feels right and I suck at sparing. So I’m probably not a left handed conventional fighter 😜

  • @StanleyKubick1
    @StanleyKubick1 2 роки тому

    I miss WS fight comps sooo much 😭😭😭

  • @scottvangasbeck9431
    @scottvangasbeck9431 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @hexnrxchdiemvsch1n356
    @hexnrxchdiemvsch1n356 2 роки тому

    is there any way to pull off the pull counter on WAY taller opponents? in my muay thai classes the other dudes are like a whole head taller than me. im 5 8 aka 173 cm btw.

  • @joeyflat1452
    @joeyflat1452 2 роки тому

    I see the 'wrong' version of pullback alot in muay thai to evade head kicks, but I think that's more acceptable because if you miss a roundhouse to the head it takes you a moment to recover so it's kind of like a little reset in the fight alot of the time.

    • @pantasticlaire3966
      @pantasticlaire3966 2 роки тому

      I’m sure the generally taller stance also makes a big difference~

  • @Lucifer_M0rningstar
    @Lucifer_M0rningstar 2 роки тому

    The best pull counter is lerdsila and saenchi. They lean ridiculous far back to dodge kicks and counter quick.

  • @willowelizabethryder4141
    @willowelizabethryder4141 2 роки тому

    I'm a dirty southpaw; does this technique change in an open stance?
    Love when you and Jared collab; y'all got great chemistry

    • @John-nx6ue
      @John-nx6ue Рік тому

      My advise would be watch Rigondeaux breakdowns. Just for understanding the angles.
      Expert boxing got some good breakdowns.
      Careful with your liver I can fight southpaw but dont do it for that reason because its always in front.

  • @TheGentlemanRougeScholar
    @TheGentlemanRougeScholar 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve always been mesmerized by experienced coaches, both in Boxing and Muaythai, they always seemed to be able to connect from farther away than you expected.
    Both of my coaches did that leaning in trick, but they always told me not to.
    Is there a good reason to not lean in a little?

    • @isuckatleague745
      @isuckatleague745 2 роки тому +5

      if you dont have a purpose you shouldnt lean

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +6

      That's a pretty good answer actually. It's an experience thing... when you've moved from reacting to predicting, and then from predicting to forcing.

    • @TheGentlemanRougeScholar
      @TheGentlemanRougeScholar 2 роки тому

      Thanks to both of you.

  • @mediapcaccount1154
    @mediapcaccount1154 2 роки тому

    LEG MOSCLES IS BACK BABY

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 2 роки тому

    to move with speed and power in a given direction, one must push off in the opposite direction. Sensei Ron calls it "buttressing" (as in the architectural feature... sicko's...)

  • @Demonstormlord
    @Demonstormlord 2 роки тому

    If you're going to mention McGregor and pull counters, I feel like you have to mention McGregor vs Alvarez. Arguably not a pull since McGregor barely moves his head, but Alvarez's hand actually flattened the tip of McGregor's nose, that's how close it was. Then of course, McGregor countered with a hard left over the top. Gorgeous clip.

  • @alexong2542
    @alexong2542 2 роки тому

    Naseem Hamed leaned back way more than Floyd Mayweather did. Floyd's pull counter was subtle, it was like a tiny half step backwards, mixing with rolling with the punches

  • @yourfilipinotv6477
    @yourfilipinotv6477 2 роки тому

    Philly Shell + Pull Counter.

  • @LizaPersson
    @LizaPersson 2 роки тому

    And some would pick on me for working the "tiniest move" to the thirteenth power. If a lot wasn't in the details, boxing wouldn't take years to get good at.

  • @aviancypress5181
    @aviancypress5181 2 роки тому +1

    Can I send you video of me sparring, and can you give me any advice?

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      Not currently sorry.

  • @wejustsawmanfly
    @wejustsawmanfly 2 роки тому

    im a total rookie but when i lean back i usally imidietly also do a kind of jump back ? I dunno, like a quick little jump using that lean to push myself back even more

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      If your only goal is to get away... sure. But in combat the idea is to also do damage.

    • @wejustsawmanfly
      @wejustsawmanfly 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt yeah im too much of a nice guy in sparring and most of the time i just try to make other people not hit me 😂

  • @101289teutonicguy
    @101289teutonicguy 2 роки тому

    can you do a video on hand fighting? I'd like to add it to my drill set but I'm not a wrestler.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      lol me neither

    • @101289teutonicguy
      @101289teutonicguy 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt exactly! Everything I see is for wrestlers, but you could do hand fighting for strikers. To counter those wrestly boys... maybe bring in Ed

  • @ASSman864
    @ASSman864 Рік тому

    2:02 coulda said james toney

  • @MrJustinpatrick16
    @MrJustinpatrick16 2 роки тому

    Make the videos longer please

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative 2 роки тому

    Jared is known as "The Quiet Storm" in the boxing world. his reach appears to be longer because he moves his feet closer with every strike.

  • @jacksdad734
    @jacksdad734 2 роки тому +1

    My pull counter is competent. Its one technique Im proud of.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      Some people have a knack for it.

  • @gymvideos4579
    @gymvideos4579 2 роки тому

    Nice boxing shoes.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      That's how you know I'm a real boxer.

  • @manuelzapata1192
    @manuelzapata1192 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @MrBhart2408
    @MrBhart2408 Рік тому

    Leg!

  • @3gnomesinacoat448
    @3gnomesinacoat448 2 роки тому

    Hey man I need my fix of Icy Mike action, I'm.begging.

  • @derekvandenburg6689
    @derekvandenburg6689 2 роки тому

    the original pull counter, Ali vs Liston 2

  • @grailknight6794
    @grailknight6794 2 роки тому

    Mike can you show us a rip and tear technique?

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      Umm... like what happens when i go for a run?

    • @grailknight6794
      @grailknight6794 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt haha i was refering to the doom guy but yeah 🤣

  • @john_2730
    @john_2730 2 роки тому

    Icicle micicle…i saw something the other day about pulling opposite side of ya body to punch more efficiently. It feels like BS but might work if you unlearn everything…idk. Seems like something you could explain

  • @kimmyedd4950
    @kimmyedd4950 2 роки тому +1

    2:27 so what you’re telling me is I can punch with both hands.

  • @copperflamex
    @copperflamex 2 роки тому

    LEG Muscle!!!

  • @TheElbowMerchant
    @TheElbowMerchant 2 роки тому

    Drive me nuts seeing a pro pull back, but doing so in a way that brings their chin up, so I appreciate some examples of how to use the technique in a way that is defensively responsible. However, I don't mind seeing an opponent pull back with their chin up in the sky, I just say "thank you, good sir."

  • @mikeholmes7184
    @mikeholmes7184 2 роки тому

    Fucking UA-cam, gives me a ton of Hard to Hurt. Yet. Molton Friedman and Thomas Sowell vids I get next to nothing. Hell, if I accidentally tap a phone prompt and well did you know we can make 7-up popsicles?

  • @grapeleopard6809
    @grapeleopard6809 2 роки тому

    leg muscles

  • @heyyou5492
    @heyyou5492 2 роки тому

    suggestion for video: can you please check out "Tactical Combat System" channel and give us your personal opinion about the method he is teaching. would love to hear your insights about his channel and his method of self defense. thank you!

  • @nomprenom9337
    @nomprenom9337 2 роки тому

    0:20 this how Anderson Silva got KO'd by Chris Weidman

  • @shanefoye6635
    @shanefoye6635 2 роки тому

    i don't care about the technique shown in the video, i just wanna know what icy mike is doing for leg day.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      Not much anymore... but it was squats.

    • @shanefoye6635
      @shanefoye6635 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt thanks. bodyweight squats, or with weights? did you do anything in particular for the hammies?

  • @lawrencewelshman5717
    @lawrencewelshman5717 2 роки тому

    Balrog?!🤯
    🤜💥🤛
    Like if you've been to the Golden Nugget
    LMAO

  • @curseofyig6727
    @curseofyig6727 2 роки тому

    Israel Adesanya pull the lean back and swing move quite a bit.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +2

      He can do it rather poorly and still make it work because he is an exceptional person.

  • @tipofmitt
    @tipofmitt 2 роки тому

    Adesanya does this great.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +2

      Umm... actually no. He does it rather poorly very often... he is just very exceptional. I would not recommend mimicking him.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 2 роки тому +1

    I’m one of those Karate using the center guys. 🤣🤣👍

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      Yeah all martial arts do that.

  • @eyadhamza3147
    @eyadhamza3147 2 роки тому

    There's a reason this is just for boxing. Don't count on this too much for Muay Thai (just an FYI for those people).. you'll get swept like no other

    • @eyadhamza3147
      @eyadhamza3147 2 роки тому

      Actually, I take this back. It could probably work for Muay Thai if its quick. But generally you don't want your legs too far forward for too long.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому

      Yeah this is super wrong. Thai fighters pull out of the way of headkicks all the time.

    • @eyadhamza3147
      @eyadhamza3147 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt True. My muay thai coach loves to sweep kick my front leg when it’s too far out from my body to remind me to stand taller. That’s what came to my mind when leaning back too much cause I know Thai fighters love finishing their combos with kicks and sweeping people. But I guess it’s not that relevant in this kind of situation? Idk lol I’m still learning and really new

  • @douglasharley2440
    @douglasharley2440 2 роки тому

    if you ride a jab and counter with your left it's even faster.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +2

      I think pulling and countering with your lead hand has a place, but it is objectively an inferior choice in most ways.

    • @mattstang3439
      @mattstang3439 2 роки тому

      Better option is just catch it counter jab if really want us lead hand if you are going through difficulty of making opponent miss and timing them then cross better option as video and most fighters demonstrate imo

  • @makaiev
    @makaiev 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, so the secret to a good pull out is not being flat footed, having where to bounce back from and fall back as I see it comming?

  • @John-nx6ue
    @John-nx6ue Рік тому

    Floyd might drop his hands but he never drops his defensive mentally

  • @billtrim50
    @billtrim50 2 роки тому

    I enjoy hard to hurt... Self-defense for idiots... By idiots 😄☮️♥️

  • @Wolvespbc
    @Wolvespbc 2 роки тому +1

    Teach an orangutan to pull counter and it's all over man.

  • @marion_roberts
    @marion_roberts 2 роки тому

    Jared has one hell of a reach.

  • @elliottlee5262
    @elliottlee5262 2 роки тому

    first?

  • @brylontubbs5359
    @brylontubbs5359 2 роки тому

    Third

  • @HittokiriBatosai
    @HittokiriBatosai 2 роки тому

    There IS no right way according to my boxing coach. Doesn't want newbies to rely on it I guess. Also doesn't believe in throwing uppercuts to the face, which I think is a lot weirder

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  2 роки тому +1

      I also don't love teaching this to new people... probably for similar reasons to him, so I get it. The uppercut thing I also think I know what he's getting at but it is a bit weirder.

    • @HittokiriBatosai
      @HittokiriBatosai 2 роки тому

      @@hard2hurt What is it that he's getting at? Cuz I have no idea. Even with the lead hand, only to the body

  • @EyeseeUriP
    @EyeseeUriP 9 днів тому

    LOL Get a good boxer to help you bud. This guy isn't it.

  • @berndhoffmann4439
    @berndhoffmann4439 2 роки тому

    This channel lost it…

  • @yourfilipinotv6477
    @yourfilipinotv6477 2 роки тому

    Philly Shell + Pull Counter.