I remember when I saw the video of him teaching this to Kimbo and everyone at the gym started trying to throw jabs without moving. It's a good technique Michael is legit
@@mistertea4487 it’s not so different from Bruce Lee’s philosophy, although he’s emphasizing how difficult it is to be seen, where Bruce emphasized the potential speed. Bruce was like ‘the shortest distance between two points is a straight line’, which is why the one of the main tools of JKD is the straight jab, basically what Mike is advocating here. From what I understand, he’s basically saying throw a rabbit punch. Obviously no body means no power, but if you hit properly with your first two knuckles you can do some damage, maybe stun, and more importantly follow-up
@PogChamp like I said I initially got this concept from JKD, and was only aware of the advantages to speed. It works in boxing yeah, especially in an orthodox stance, or if you’re slipping against a trained partner; It’s the last thing they expect. The reason I guess this works is because a trained opponent is usually looking into the periphery to see any movement of your hips or shoulders, any windup. This punch has none and relies primarily on the power you can generate from your abdomen while in a fixed position, like a tsuki in karate (personally I think he gets the concept specifically from karate, since they already train tons of static punches) I haven’t got a chance to test in a street fight, but I think it will work for the same reason. An attacker who’s had some training will get fooled, and a dude who’s swinging wild can be more easily countered using this than say a hook or a cross.
Once you master, no can defend. I've been practicing this on my wife and it WORKS. I'm finally getting the respect I deserve. Now, my wife is admittedly kind of slow and has bad eyesight. But it also works on my kids and even the dog. I'm now the king of my castle. Thanks Michael!
I appreciate how you're here to teach everyone. The part about throwing from the elbow. You didn't criticize the person. You stated that there was a misunderstanding. A big sign of a great teacher
In my opinion when you have high level knowledge it is your obligation to pass it on. No one lives forever so if you don't pass down your knowledge it is lost. While I have been training in Taekwondo and Savate since 6 & 10 respectively & martial arts are a passion of mine I am a rotary engine and car builder by trade, so I take every chance I get to spread what I've learned through trial & error with something that is usually not well understood by most car builders. And I like how you pointed out not criticizing. That is very important to me to not belittle people who might not know as much as you.
"Technique beats speed" I tell my son all the time, you out think your opponent, you've beat your opponent. In anything, not just fighting. MJW is a legend
@@realamericannegro977 It kinda does in a way. Look at how Loma destroyed "faster" boxers like Rigo and Gary Russell for example, or how GGG dismantles his opponents.
@@MistaWordz I have to watch for myself because when people any this they don't be looking at the more important details of why the person won or lost. Or they misarticulate their points.
In my boxing training I was taught this, but we don’t say “technique” beats speed, “timing” beats speed. If you can get your opponents timing down you can neutralize his speed with effective counters. That’s what mayweather did to Zab in their fight. Zab had the fastest hands in boxing at the time. Mayweather after the 6th round got his timing down and dominated.
One of my TKD instructors tried to teach me this 40+ years ago. I wasn’t at a level to assimilate it at the time. This was a good demonstration but it’s not so easy to put into practice. It shows what a high level he’s achieved.
@@G4mer_D4d Is it really? I beg to differ otherwise Xu Xiaodong wouldn't have been able to easily dispatch "Chinese martial arts" masters wish such ease. If it was "common" as you say.
tbh, if you're not challenged somehow you can do it pretty easily. Unless I'm just extremely gifted or something because I was doing this shit before I even saw these videos. Kinda common sense that if you give any tells they're gunna be ready for it.
The technique is this, your hand is the first thing to move before anything else moves….so to work on this technique, stand slightly away from the bag so you have to move forward to reach it. Now strike the bag but move your hand before your feet. You will have to do it relatively slowly at first to reprogram your brain not to move your feet first. When you build up to faster speeds, the hand starting the movement before anything else is what makes it non-telegraphic. Very hard to do but once you have perfected it, it’s amazing. I have only met one man who had perfected it and being on the receiving end of it, it was like a goddamn special effect.
Been using this on my kids. They used to get bad grades but a few of these to the head and they got into “special” classes. Now it’s straight As for all of them and special parking privileges for me as well. Thanks MJW! 🎉
I've been a bouncer and done personal security in the past and simple techniques such as these actually do help in any situation. And if you're 5'5 and about 150-160 like myself getting the upper hand first is paramount in any fight situation. Throats, noses and kneecaps fall prey to this the quickest- Always usable techniques with MJW
@@bigbuddy1810 If a person is wearing a cap on their head it can knocked without disturbing the head. So, same principle. I can kick your kneecap without kicking the rest of your leg be that while a person is advancing or of I hit them indirectly, like from the side. You’re aware kneecaps can travel and move, right? Any body part can be attacked individually.
@@bigbuddy1810 low kicks, mostly. They're very practical, because it's easier to throw them and stay balanced. They're also almost guaranteed to land, because the average person will spend a great deal of their focus protecting their face, in lieu of their body or legs
You may be interested to know that this is very present in swordfighting as well, perhaps unsurprising since all fighting is based on shared body mechanics. George Silver called it "attacking in True Times," where the hand moves first, then the body, then the feet.
The way he hit that last punch he landed on Jones was disgusting. Absolutely beautifully smooth and I didn't see it coming even knowing that was his whole plan. He's so good at not telegraphing.
So for everyone still confused on how to throw a non telegraphing punch due to the lack of any sort of explanation in the video whatsoever, here's how you do it. Just throw a regular punch, but without telegraphing it. That's it. So simple it's genius.
I remember you was teaching this to Kimbo Slice and some of the cast on Blood-In-Bone off set. I thought and still think that it's one of the coolest things you could've ever taught.
Excellent wisdom, actual practical advice. Try it for yourself! :) My teacher taught me something similar. The way he described it is to imagine your fist is a rocket that takes off first and drags the rest of your body with it.
He's so right 💯 Technique beats speed. Roy Jones really does it a whole lot, also Usman did it with his jabs while fighting Gilbert Burns. After several shots, What made Usman's own way more beautiful was straight punch always beating looping punches, whereby Burns throw a hook yet he still got dropped with a jab b4 Usman smashed him into the shadow realm.
@@qaidikramuddin Thats not what cost him against Chimaev. He almost won that fight because he landed huge wild hooks on Chimaev. It would have cost him if Chimaev didnt brawl and used jabs and straight punches like usman did... but because Chimaev brawled those wild hooks actually landed hard asf on chimaev. Because Chimaev didnt fight a smart fight Burns was able to use those wild hooks
nothing beats speed if something hits you so fast you can’t do nothing about it. like a bullet. without the speed, that bullet wouldn’t go into anything
I remember his first video on this with Kimbo slice. I watched when I was in high school and boys being boys were a bit obsessed with rough and thumble play including fighting. I never did a martial arts sports when I was young only just stuff from youtube that I learned. But now a decade later I picked up boxing and the lesson about punching non telegraphically has stuck with me and it works like a charm when sparring to get easy points
Love this dude. Seen him explain a phantom punch many years ago to Kim-Slice and it was the number 1 thing to help me develop my lighting fast strike speed. People cannot dodge my punches anymore.
Technique beats speed, but IQ beats technique. Also let's not forgot about reflexes. MJW is one of my favorite Actors. Im looking forward to seeing you in another movie.
I was a fan of this guy since I discovered him as a kid. He was my favorite comic book hero, Spawn. I saw him later as Gamble in Dark Knight Rises, and I was like "OH HEY AL, I MISSED YOU!" Now that I know he has a UA-cam account and he is this level of badass outside of a movie studio, I am thinking that maybe Gamble should have just been the one to beat the brakes off of the Joker and called it a day. But the humor and the down to earth humble nature of this guy when he is showing what he knows is beyond endearing to me. I hope to one day meet and train to box like this man. This subscription is special, because it's like being reunited with an old friend. Hey Al. How you been, man?
I have been a huge White fan since Spawn. IMO he is the most unique and devastating martial artist I have ever seen. Technique is always flawless. I would pay top dollar to learn martial arts from him.
He’s a genius when it comes to gross motor mechanics. Non telegraphed punches are OP. It’s like a meta strat in a game. It’s basically the same shit Bruce Lee used. And not just Bruce Lee used this of course.
I swear to you guys I did this last week by accident in Muay Thai sparring day! I was shocked I was throwing fast jabs, kicks and punches and all and was having a hard time cause I was not connecting at all and I’m an old horse. As soon as I got tired and began using shortest distance to a certain target mentality I was connecting everything I threw. Then I threw a right power punch and it was not fast at all but it well connected and I hit the target 🎯 nicely. I was shocked 😳 now I see this video and I’m completely mind blown 🤯
@@jimmykruzer Fight tips has a good video discussing the concept that I think MJW is trying to get across in this video. I think this is the video I'm thinking of ua-cam.com/video/q99NyVBvIIo/v-deo.html This vid has a few tips but I think the one MJW is using here is when you throw your punch just think "forward forward forward" and move your fist only forward. Telegraphing usually comes from either your arm moving back slightly or your body moving forward slightly to wind up the punch. If you want to punch fast you need to completely element this split second wind up.
Excellent demonstration and explanation. We used to try to simplify it by drilling into students,, "The weapon moves first." And as Michael shows, it's 'camouflaged' even more when you're moving.
I learned the independent motion techniques back in the day through Joe Lewis when he was a hired gun for Tracy's kenpo. Great techniques! I also do the reverse punch with a step through motion to increase the range. That's harder to learn, but once you do, it becomes very natural.
This is a rehash of some of his earlier posts, that being said I’m so glad to see that this channel is Active again. I’ve learned so much from Michael’s videos.
I have a family member from Bridgeport, CT and fought his whole life and one of the Best guys in taekwondo. Michael went to Central high in Bridgeport and this guy's name is Billy Petrone. Won every tournament he's ever gotten involved in and was a member of the US taekwondo team I'm sure Michael j white would no him cuz this was a long time ago we're talking the '90s and mid '80s.I saw Michael at a tournament. He appeared to be the only other fellow to have a Good given gift. BRIDGEPORT HAS BROUGHT OUT Incredible TALENT. THANKS MIKE, YOUR AWSOME .
I practice punches in front of the mirror trying to address this problem. I look for where my arm is the instant before my punch. I learned from that and had my arm at that pre punch angle to make it non telegraphic. But I'm limited to that. The way Micheal does it from behind his back is just beyond my level. I'd like to study him to learn how he does it.
Straight punches would do the trick. Also with a trick I usually do is hold my punch, like a slingshot or a gun, there are two opposite forces holding each other. Release one and the other zips forth with a greater force than you would launching it normally.
Great technique in a street fight when argument lead up to a scrap because your starting from totally different position but in the ring,octagon etc your standing still in your opponent sweet spot .
A street is just a larger ring/octagon. U make ur space. U create ur expanse. Fight and move to the best of abilities. If a few metres makes u feel confined....then ur mind is
@@aquaticlibrary idk why your quetioning michael jai whites techniques hes literally the best in the buiness other than the guy that acts as boyka, name one other person other than michael jai who can spinning kick a bag and break the chain thats holding that bag
@@toddmears8241 lmao the best Martial Arts ACTOR maybe. Not the best fighter. No record of any full contact fights. I’m a huge fan of him but that’s just a fact.
With respect, i have a few questions. What does a non-telegraphed jab look like from a ready / guarding position? I wonder if this demonstration would be different if you werent punching from outside the opponents fov, and if you were using your shoulders / chest to push out rather than your arms / back to raise up. What kind of power are you generating with that non-telegraphed cross? Your feet lift off the ground at impact. Id love to see you hit the pressure sensor and get an idea of the absolute numbers in these techniques. How do you practise generating non-telegraphed momentum during your step-in attacks? Is it purely based on the strength of the leg muscles, or is this something any build could do with the same speed / power?
Non telegraphed motions don't necessarily have to be done without body, shoulder motion, etc... non telegraphed motion only involves one direction. If you're standing and facing an object you want to kick, punch or touch, just move forward without the slightest cocking of any limbs or part of your body, unless you intend to trick your opponent. Always move forward from where you're standing, you can shoulder snap, ground yourself and create energy from earth and up. But always move forward with your intent
Even if your feet change a fraction before you move, it creates a telegraph. If everything moves forward with the mechanics of what you're planning to do, then you will reach your target.
@@-VIRUS-. Yeah that why he said lead with the weapon first. Maybe the power generation comes second. The shock n deorientation from being hit should give you time. Everybody has a plan til they get punched in the face -mike tyson.
Or maybe the non-telegraphed attack doesn’t need to be power that could just be the set up to get somebody off their guard to follow up with a power shot
@@OG_VERBZ Possibly, but if that were the case, id like to know just how different a non-telegraphed cross is compared to a "power shot" cross. If these non-telegraphed attacks are meant to replace telegraphed versions, id like to know the compromises before adopting the technique. If these non-telegraphed attacks are meant to be used differently to "power shot" or telegraphed attacks, id like to know the scenarios where each technique would apply best.
Micheal is an outstanding martial artist one of the best ! Demonstrating with a UFC champion “ Don’t let me hit it “ ! Bam , Bam , even with distance Bam 💥! Really sound teaching thanks guys ! 💥🥊💥🥊💥🥊
If people who have asked you to fight, and were looking at you when you threw the punch. THEN accuse you of "sucker punching" them? You have this figured out.
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I learned this by watching Roy Jones as a kid, but Michael Jai was the first person I seen break it down into words. I saw do it with kicks the first time he talked about it
One thing to consider is that Professional MMA fighters and Boxers throw that way to generate power. Traditional martial arts used allot of non telgraphed strikes, but did not generate the type of full body power that a pro fighter would. I think they try to find the right balance of power with non predictability. A king fu master, for instance, may get a flurry of strikes in on a potential mma opponent. That mma fighter might eat a few of those quick strikes to deliver a more powerful blow or muscle in a takedown. Balance is probably the key.
Yeah I get it! When he 1st punched in this video I intuitively felt when he was gonna do it. What happens is whenever a person performs a normal punch, the telegraph movement of the body gives off an energy signal to the other person's subconscious mind to be intuitively ready for the punch. Whenever you avoid that normal body movement before a punch, it is much less telegraphed. Nice video. 👍👍
This is amazing. From what I can gather from this video is that you should practice throwing punches non telegraphed from a stilled position and then once you got that down you incorporate movement to hide it even more. Like a magician utilizing misdirection in a magic trick. You usually get knocked out from punches you don't see. Depending on your arm position before the jab is thrown and its strength you usually won't have enough power in it since you aren't using your whole body but the damage should be enough to make the opponent flinch or stunned enough for the second hit which you can now incorporate more body twisting and power because they are occupied by the first hit and are not seeing where the next one will be. The part when he says he doesn't understand how people thought about the elbow being used is because people don't understand that to even move your elbow you are actually using your shoulders to begin the movement. So I think practice raising your shoulders from a neutral position and then work your way to throwing a jab from the shoulder only. Don't dip with the legs to get power. Don't twist the hips before throwing. Just focus on the shoulder first. Where ever your hands are at when you are incorporating movement is where the jab will be thrown. Don't pull it back just poke. Just like when you poke with your finger you don't have to pull your hand back at all first, you can just launch your hand forward.
Almost mastered this, I'm a boxer, but I use alot of Master's(MJW) techniques, thank you for teaching me this year's ago, and teaching me how to form a fist👊🏿(correctly) , way easier on my wrist💯
@@billyfoster8127 shut up, you don't know me from anyone, and you have know idea the training a dedication I put into fighting, IVE definitely almost mastered this technique and if you want proof, check my channel and keep and eye out for my latest training video.
@@billyfoster8127 you have know idea that I have trained MJW non telegraphing techniques since I was 16(26 now)... SHUT UP... Your a complete scrub and yet you think you know anything about me to try to say what I have and haven't mastered?? I wish I could find you IRL, I would gladly hold a sparring match with you, just to see if you have Even basic martial arts abilities... but I doubt it🤣🤣 freaking scrub, Bums like you need to keep quiet or atleats post a video of you, to prove your not the worthless bot you are
@@billyfoster8127 and I said ALMOST for a reason you moron, I know I still can improve, but I can promise I'm way ahead of you, worthless Bum get a life and stop hating on people you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT💯
This is a great illustration. I've always had a habit of throwing my arm first. May be related to having a large "ape factor" giving me longer reach than I appear to have. I have been teaching my 9 year old about telegraphing and I think i'll have him watch this video with me. Seeing it from a 3rd person point of view is going to be very helpful.
it is the other way round. if you wanna go deep into it the eye speed is 38000 mph no hand can beat that. but the eye can also be slow. if it wants too. then the hand will beat that. but it is nowhere near faster than the eye 👁
@@dmagz0121 if you can't apply your mathematics to real world situations then it's only a theory and regarded as irrelevant information for this argument.
@@jamesechevarria6177 the eye is fast…it’s faster than the hand…….however, it requires a lot of focus to react that quick to that punch. The thing is if you are focusing on reacting to that specific punch, you absolutely can and you’d most likely would, however youll lose focus on other things (ie: the next punch). Because over-focusing on one thing, tunnel visions you to that specific thing and it can be quite mentally exhausting.
The weird thing is, guys who throw these instant punches seem to knock people down with them an awful lot. According to Bernard Hopkins, it's because the shock of the punch makes up for the lack of power. As long as the punch is accurate.
This follows with sound technique for historical rapier and modern sport fencing as well. It's effect is even more compounded in that situation, because you are extending a long weapon to attack before you are putting your body in danger by leaning or stepping.
I remember that video on the set of Blood and Bone. Good technique makes a huge difference. Blood and Bone was so good. It should have been in theaters and had blockbuster advertising. Any chance of a sequel? How about working with Matt Mullins again? Both of you have awesome high kicks and that fight was intense.
@@hitrule5722 He didn't get enough attention, even during his Dragon Knight days. He made Kamen Rider Knight look even more badass as Kamen Rider Wing Knight. The original scenes they did there were amazingly good.
I remember after watching the Kimbo video I taught myself to punch with all my body and movement going forward. My boxing coach at the time took notice and told me that while the technique is great for fighting; it would come of short in boxing just because of the loss of potential volume and the very slight decrease in range
Some people are great fighters and some people are great teachers. Over the years I've encountered instructors who weren't that great at fighting but they could coach a person into being a great fighter. Conversely I've met great fighters who really weren't great instructors in the Do Jang or coaches for the ring. I feel like Mr. White is one of those rare exceptions who's both.
Was this why Muhammad Ali's jab was so effective? Was he good at not telegraphing his punches? The accuracy and frequency of Ali's head strikes were always very baffling to me, and i always sensed that something other than speed or anticipation was at work there...
man everyone gave Jai so much shit for saying he can probably beat Bruce Lee. That's an reasonable assessment. (i still lean favor to Bruce but it's not like he is saying something so outlandish) Based on all the information we have the chance is definitely there and not so small like 10%. Bruce's power, explosiveness, speed and endurance is of course outta this world even today based on purely footage frame rate and his training regiment. But weight does also play a big part. (why even 3lb is another division in boxing) it could be like 30-70 odds etc. And he expressed in an respectful manner. He wasn't talking about legacy or influence regarding martial arts. In that area no one comes close to Ali, Bruce, those level of guys etc.
ricardo lopez uses this technique with his jab. Almost like a drop step with his punch. Or thomas hearns with his flicker jab hiding the movement with swaying and bobing of his arm
I remember when I saw the video of him teaching this to Kimbo and everyone at the gym started trying to throw jabs without moving. It's a good technique Michael is legit
Moving the fist before the body?
He also did it in the street while filming a movie in between takes. Everyone was laughing.
@@mistertea4487 it’s not so different from Bruce Lee’s philosophy, although he’s emphasizing how difficult it is to be seen, where Bruce emphasized the potential speed. Bruce was like ‘the shortest distance between two points is a straight line’, which is why the one of the main tools of JKD is the straight jab, basically what Mike is advocating here. From what I understand, he’s basically saying throw a rabbit punch. Obviously no body means no power, but if you hit properly with your first two knuckles you can do some damage, maybe stun, and more importantly follow-up
@@elmatasesues3630 Took the words out of my mouth. Factz
@PogChamp like I said I initially got this concept from JKD, and was only aware of the advantages to speed. It works in boxing yeah, especially in an orthodox stance, or if you’re slipping against a trained partner; It’s the last thing they expect. The reason I guess this works is because a trained opponent is usually looking into the periphery to see any movement of your hips or shoulders, any windup. This punch has none and relies primarily on the power you can generate from your abdomen while in a fixed position, like a tsuki in karate (personally I think he gets the concept specifically from karate, since they already train tons of static punches) I haven’t got a chance to test in a street fight, but I think it will work for the same reason. An attacker who’s had some training will get fooled, and a dude who’s swinging wild can be more easily countered using this than say a hook or a cross.
Once you master, no can defend.
I've been practicing this on my wife and it WORKS. I'm finally getting the respect I deserve. Now, my wife is admittedly kind of slow and has bad eyesight. But it also works on my kids and even the dog. I'm now the king of my castle. Thanks Michael!
I tried it on my dog, but she’s already wise to my shit. 😒
❤❤❤ thx God me too!! Told my neighbors wife not to let me hit it but 9 months later 😂
@@skaetur1 is this a reference to that one spanish story
This reminds me of a joke my dad used to say at family events when I was a kid.
"Well, guess its time to go home and beat my wife and kids"
But you didnt do on the cat yet...
I appreciate how you're here to teach everyone. The part about throwing from the elbow. You didn't criticize the person. You stated that there was a misunderstanding. A big sign of a great teacher
In my opinion when you have high level knowledge it is your obligation to pass it on. No one lives forever so if you don't pass down your knowledge it is lost. While I have been training in Taekwondo and Savate since 6 & 10 respectively & martial arts are a passion of mine I am a rotary engine and car builder by trade, so I take every chance I get to spread what I've learned through trial & error with something that is usually not well understood by most car builders. And I like how you pointed out not criticizing. That is very important to me to not belittle people who might not know as much as you.
It's a quick punch but not particularly powerful. Good to mix in with other moves to totally throw off the opponent though.
@@johnbrennan8611 100% agree.
I'd beat the breaks off MJW
except when he's talking about how he can beat up a dead person who isnt here to defend himself. Michael J White should be proud of himself.
The philosophy of "Technique beats speed" applies equally well to the bedroom. Thank you Michael Jai White.
You beating the shit out of your girl? bro that not cool
Keeping a surprise factor also spices things up, eh!
True. But a good tempo doesn’t ever hurt 💯
Do you also go "don't let me hit it" there?
😄😄😄
"Technique beats speed" I tell my son all the time, you out think your opponent, you've beat your opponent. In anything, not just fighting. MJW is a legend
It still doesn't beat speed. I agree with you on the out thinking part.
@@realamericannegro977 It kinda does in a way. Look at how Loma destroyed "faster" boxers like Rigo and Gary Russell for example, or how GGG dismantles his opponents.
a combo of speed an technique
@@MistaWordz I have to watch for myself because when people any this they don't be looking at the more important details of why the person won or lost. Or they misarticulate their points.
In my boxing training I was taught this, but we don’t say “technique” beats speed, “timing” beats speed. If you can get your opponents timing down you can neutralize his speed with effective counters.
That’s what mayweather did to Zab in their fight. Zab had the fastest hands in boxing at the time. Mayweather after the 6th round got his timing down and dominated.
One of my TKD instructors tried to teach me this 40+ years ago. I wasn’t at a level to assimilate it at the time. This was a good demonstration but it’s not so easy to put into practice. It shows what a high level he’s achieved.
It's common secret in Chinese martial arts
@@G4mer_D4d "common secret" 😂 not so much of a secret then
@@G4mer_D4d Is it really? I beg to differ otherwise Xu Xiaodong wouldn't have been able to easily dispatch "Chinese martial arts" masters wish such ease. If it was "common" as you say.
@@charlesmarcus7864 it means it was something high level masters had and just because you know it from a book doesn't mean it's easy to implement
tbh, if you're not challenged somehow you can do it pretty easily. Unless I'm just extremely gifted or something because I was doing this shit before I even saw these videos. Kinda common sense that if you give any tells they're gunna be ready for it.
The technique is this, your hand is the first thing to move before anything else moves….so to work on this technique, stand slightly away from the bag so you have to move forward to reach it. Now strike the bag but move your hand before your feet. You will have to do it relatively slowly at first to reprogram your brain not to move your feet first.
When you build up to faster speeds, the hand starting the movement before anything else is what makes it non-telegraphic. Very hard to do but once you have perfected it, it’s amazing.
I have only met one man who had perfected it and being on the receiving end of it, it was like a goddamn special effect.
Been using this on my kids. They used to get bad grades but a few of these to the head and they got into “special” classes. Now it’s straight As for all of them and special parking privileges for me as well. Thanks MJW! 🎉
What the fuck..???
😂
At 42 started martial arts been doing it for a year and it's changed my life. Enjoy watching theses videos as it makes sense to me.
Which martial art?
Gayfu
@@BuddhaSunn Karate
@@1979jonGreat job, keep it up. Don't let keyboard warriors like deathdealer🤡 deter you with "gayfu"
I've been a bouncer and done personal security in the past and simple techniques such as these actually do help in any situation. And if you're 5'5 and about 150-160 like myself getting the upper hand first is paramount in any fight situation. Throats, noses and kneecaps fall prey to this the quickest- Always usable techniques with MJW
How do you attack the kneecap?
@@bigbuddy1810 If a person is wearing a cap on their head it can knocked without disturbing the head. So, same principle. I can kick your kneecap without kicking the rest of your leg be that while a person is advancing or of I hit them indirectly, like from the side. You’re aware kneecaps can travel and move, right? Any body part can be attacked individually.
@@mexi-mel2593 gotcha
@@bigbuddy1810 low kicks, mostly. They're very practical, because it's easier to throw them and stay balanced. They're also almost guaranteed to land, because the average person will spend a great deal of their focus protecting their face, in lieu of their body or legs
"Throats, noses and kneecaps" we're the same short person 😂😂
You may be interested to know that this is very present in swordfighting as well, perhaps unsurprising since all fighting is based on shared body mechanics. George Silver called it "attacking in True Times," where the hand moves first, then the body, then the feet.
yep don't they usually try to go for the opponents hand to disarm them?
I think about sword fighting a lot in my dojo, and the weapons we practice with have been helping my unarmed combat as well
Nice way to put it
Bruce Lee got a lot of his ideas from studying fencing which his brother did too
This is the same also with basketball and tag. Amazing
The way he hit that last punch he landed on Jones was disgusting. Absolutely beautifully smooth and I didn't see it coming even knowing that was his whole plan. He's so good at not telegraphing.
So for everyone still confused on how to throw a non telegraphing punch due to the lack of any sort of explanation in the video whatsoever, here's how you do it. Just throw a regular punch, but without telegraphing it. That's it. So simple it's genius.
I must have heard people call that rule number one for fifty years.
Its more civilized to drink your punch than to throw it at somebody.
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 But not at kids parties because apparently getting wasted on the Slip-n-slide is a big no no! 🙄
He didn't tell the secret, the secret is minimizing shoulder movements.
@@SpicySiopao i would put that secret on a t shirt
Michael Jai White has inspired me ever since Spawn and to this day he seems like the absolute coolest most real dude, unlike 99% of Hollywood.
I remember you was teaching this to Kimbo Slice and some of the cast on Blood-In-Bone off set. I thought and still think that it's one of the coolest things you could've ever taught.
rip Kimbo legend
Excellent wisdom, actual practical advice. Try it for yourself! :)
My teacher taught me something similar. The way he described it is to imagine your fist is a rocket that takes off first and drags the rest of your body with it.
He's so right 💯 Technique beats speed. Roy Jones really does it a whole lot, also Usman did it with his jabs while fighting Gilbert Burns. After several shots, What made Usman's own way more beautiful was straight punch always beating looping punches, whereby Burns throw a hook yet he still got dropped with a jab b4 Usman smashed him into the shadow realm.
Burns throws too many wild hooks. That's what also cost him against Chimaev. Expended too much energy and missed too much.
@@qaidikramuddin Thats not what cost him against Chimaev. He almost won that fight because he landed huge wild hooks on Chimaev.
It would have cost him if Chimaev didnt brawl and used jabs and straight punches like usman did... but because Chimaev brawled those wild hooks actually landed hard asf on chimaev.
Because Chimaev didnt fight a smart fight Burns was able to use those wild hooks
I wouldn't say technique beats speed, I'd rather say technique improves speed. I guess it's more or less the same thing 🤷
nothing beats speed
if something hits you so fast you can’t do nothing about it.
like a bullet.
without the speed, that bullet wouldn’t go into anything
He wasnt in the shadow realm just got stopped
I remember his first video on this with Kimbo slice. I watched when I was in high school and boys being boys were a bit obsessed with rough and thumble play including fighting. I never did a martial arts sports when I was young only just stuff from youtube that I learned. But now a decade later I picked up boxing and the lesson about punching non telegraphically has stuck with me and it works like a charm when sparring to get easy points
Love this dude. Seen him explain a phantom punch many years ago to Kim-Slice and it was the number 1 thing to help me develop my lighting fast strike speed. People cannot dodge my punches anymore.
So you named your punching bag "people" now? Put some dollor store beady eyes on it and you will get intimidated.
@@unluckyone7531 bro 😂
Technique beats speed, but IQ beats technique. Also let's not forgot about reflexes. MJW is one of my favorite Actors. Im looking forward to seeing you in another movie.
Great to see this lesson again. I remember how much it confounded Kimbo 😅 may his soul be at peace
I was a fan of this guy since I discovered him as a kid. He was my favorite comic book hero, Spawn. I saw him later as Gamble in Dark Knight Rises, and I was like "OH HEY AL, I MISSED YOU!"
Now that I know he has a UA-cam account and he is this level of badass outside of a movie studio, I am thinking that maybe Gamble should have just been the one to beat the brakes off of the Joker and called it a day.
But the humor and the down to earth humble nature of this guy when he is showing what he knows is beyond endearing to me. I hope to one day meet and train to box like this man.
This subscription is special, because it's like being reunited with an old friend.
Hey Al. How you been, man?
I have been a huge White fan since Spawn. IMO he is the most unique and devastating martial artist I have ever seen. Technique is always flawless. I would pay top dollar to learn martial arts from him.
Met Michael a few months back at the Apex and dude couldn’t have been kinder. True legend
He’s a genius when it comes to gross motor mechanics.
Non telegraphed punches are OP. It’s like a meta strat in a game.
It’s basically the same shit Bruce Lee used.
And not just Bruce Lee used this of course.
This comment reads like you would have no idea if they’re OP lol
Bruce Lee was the first person who came to my mind to be honest.
No need to call it gross, it’s natural
@@Aflay1 mjw talking smack say he can whoop Bruce cuz his size and say jackie Chan can whoop Bruce cuz Jackie bigger lol mjw dont like Bruce at all
@@tavianroberts4423 He also called non-telegraphed punches "Octopus Pussy". It's safe to say that the op is absolutely insane
I swear to you guys I did this last week by accident in Muay Thai sparring day! I was shocked I was throwing fast jabs, kicks and punches and all and was having a hard time cause I was not connecting at all and I’m an old horse. As soon as I got tired and began using shortest distance to a certain target mentality I was connecting everything I threw. Then I threw a right power punch and it was not fast at all but it well connected and I hit the target 🎯 nicely. I was shocked 😳 now I see this video and I’m completely mind blown 🤯
Can you explain this for me, I can never connect punches unless there in bunches
@@jimmykruzer Fight tips has a good video discussing the concept that I think MJW is trying to get across in this video. I think this is the video I'm thinking of ua-cam.com/video/q99NyVBvIIo/v-deo.html
This vid has a few tips but I think the one MJW is using here is when you throw your punch just think "forward forward forward" and move your fist only forward. Telegraphing usually comes from either your arm moving back slightly or your body moving forward slightly to wind up the punch. If you want to punch fast you need to completely element this split second wind up.
@@degiguess oh I got you so don't load up on punches basically
It's not just distance. It's also throwing hand before moving your body, instead of at the same time
Spawn was my fav comic book as a kid, first job was in a comic book store, had issue #1 to #100
Excellent demonstration and explanation.
We used to try to simplify it by drilling into students,, "The weapon moves first." And as Michael shows, it's 'camouflaged' even more when you're moving.
Which proves the old saying “action is faster than reaction”.
I'd beat the breaks off MJW
@@yungthoroughyea okay tough guy
How?
@@yungthorough mjw say weight win in a fight 😅lol
That’s why he eat a lot and lifting weight lol
I learned the independent motion techniques back in the day through Joe Lewis when he was a hired gun for Tracy's kenpo. Great techniques! I also do the reverse punch with a step through motion to increase the range. That's harder to learn, but once you do, it becomes very natural.
What was it like getting to train with and learn from Joe Lewis? That's awesome
you learned to punch from Joe Lewis AND you're a doctor on a plane??
Do you go out drinking with the Dos Equis guy?
@@robdeskrd lol! Actually, I do not drink alcohol. Just a doctor who loves the martial arts.
Whats reverse punch?
@@acexae2411 Gyaku zuki
I love mjw. He’s the best real martial artist in Hollywood from what I’ve seen.
This is a rehash of some of his earlier posts, that being said I’m so glad to see that this channel is Active again. I’ve learned so much from Michael’s videos.
I have a family member from Bridgeport, CT and fought his whole life and one of the Best guys in taekwondo. Michael went to Central high in Bridgeport and this guy's name is Billy Petrone. Won every tournament he's ever gotten involved in and was a member of the US taekwondo team I'm sure Michael j white would no him cuz this was a long time ago we're talking the '90s and mid '80s.I saw Michael at a tournament. He appeared to be the only other fellow to have a Good given gift. BRIDGEPORT HAS BROUGHT OUT Incredible TALENT. THANKS MIKE, YOUR AWSOME .
I practice punches in front of the mirror trying to address this problem. I look for where my arm is the instant before my punch. I learned from that and had my arm at that pre punch angle to make it non telegraphic. But I'm limited to that. The way Micheal does it from behind his back is just beyond my level. I'd like to study him to learn how he does it.
Classical music helps
Practice in slow motion. Play the video in slow motion to see his technique
Be careful not to break the mirror :D
Straight lines. That's the trick he's using. From weapon to target, straightest line.
Straight punches would do the trick. Also with a trick I usually do is hold my punch, like a slingshot or a gun, there are two opposite forces holding each other. Release one and the other zips forth with a greater force than you would launching it normally.
Great technique in a street fight when argument lead up to a scrap because your starting from totally different position but in the ring,octagon etc your standing still in your opponent sweet spot .
Are u? Then why dont u move.....
A street is just a larger ring/octagon. U make ur space. U create ur expanse. Fight and move to the best of abilities. If a few metres makes u feel confined....then ur mind is
Amazing! Technique over pure speed. Even Jon Jones falls for it
Idk how effective it would be in a fight though. Having your lead jab hand by your leg. Super open to overhand punches
@@aquaticlibrary idk why your quetioning michael jai whites techniques hes literally the best in the buiness other than the guy that acts as boyka, name one other person other than michael jai who can spinning kick a bag and break the chain thats holding that bag
@@toddmears8241 the fact that he did it in front of Joe Rogan is crazy!!!!
@@toddmears8241 lmao the best Martial Arts ACTOR maybe. Not the best fighter. No record of any full contact fights. I’m a huge fan of him but that’s just a fact.
@@aquaticlibrary doesn't matter he was able to touch two UFC fighters no problem, let alone one of the greatest UFC champions....
This is fundamental I’m happy that someone of his skill level is sharing this that’s a valuable lesson in it’s own way.
With respect, i have a few questions.
What does a non-telegraphed jab look like from a ready / guarding position? I wonder if this demonstration would be different if you werent punching from outside the opponents fov, and if you were using your shoulders / chest to push out rather than your arms / back to raise up.
What kind of power are you generating with that non-telegraphed cross? Your feet lift off the ground at impact. Id love to see you hit the pressure sensor and get an idea of the absolute numbers in these techniques.
How do you practise generating non-telegraphed momentum during your step-in attacks? Is it purely based on the strength of the leg muscles, or is this something any build could do with the same speed / power?
Non telegraphed motions don't necessarily have to be done without body, shoulder motion, etc... non telegraphed motion only involves one direction. If you're standing and facing an object you want to kick, punch or touch, just move forward without the slightest cocking of any limbs or part of your body, unless you intend to trick your opponent. Always move forward from where you're standing, you can shoulder snap, ground yourself and create energy from earth and up. But always move forward with your intent
Even if your feet change a fraction before you move, it creates a telegraph. If everything moves forward with the mechanics of what you're planning to do, then you will reach your target.
@@-VIRUS-. Yeah that why he said lead with the weapon first. Maybe the power generation comes second. The shock n deorientation from being hit should give you time. Everybody has a plan til they get punched in the face -mike tyson.
Or maybe the non-telegraphed attack doesn’t need to be power that could just be the set up to get somebody off their guard to follow up with a power shot
@@OG_VERBZ Possibly, but if that were the case, id like to know just how different a non-telegraphed cross is compared to a "power shot" cross. If these non-telegraphed attacks are meant to replace telegraphed versions, id like to know the compromises before adopting the technique. If these non-telegraphed attacks are meant to be used differently to "power shot" or telegraphed attacks, id like to know the scenarios where each technique would apply best.
Michael is that dude. Always will be to me. One of my favorites.
Micheal is an outstanding martial artist one of the best ! Demonstrating with a UFC champion “ Don’t let me hit it “ ! Bam , Bam , even with distance Bam 💥! Really sound teaching thanks guys ! 💥🥊💥🥊💥🥊
If people who have asked you to fight, and were looking at you when you threw the punch. THEN accuse you of "sucker punching" them? You have this figured out.
*Real
Glad it was helpful!
Really u didn’t know Bruce already taught us ?
Mjw just copying
@@concac314 stoo being a hater he aint copying nobody
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I learned this by watching Roy Jones as a kid, but Michael Jai was the first person I seen break it down into words. I saw do it with kicks the first time he talked about it
One thing to consider is that Professional MMA fighters and Boxers throw that way to generate power. Traditional martial arts used allot of non telgraphed strikes, but did not generate the type of full body power that a pro fighter would. I think they try to find the right balance of power with non predictability. A king fu master, for instance, may get a flurry of strikes in on a potential mma opponent. That mma fighter might eat a few of those quick strikes to deliver a more powerful blow or muscle in a takedown. Balance is probably the key.
Yeah right but still a nun telegraphing jab is op like from Ricardo martinez you can develop still a strong impact for a Job
I have so much respect for the names in this video (Michael J White, Kimbo, Roy Jones and John Jones). Been a fight fan of all of them.
Yeah I get it! When he 1st punched in this video I intuitively felt when he was gonna do it. What happens is whenever a person performs a normal punch, the telegraph movement of the body gives off an energy signal to the other person's subconscious mind to be intuitively ready for the punch. Whenever you avoid that normal body movement before a punch, it is much less telegraphed. Nice video. 👍👍
This is amazing. From what I can gather from this video is that you should practice throwing punches non telegraphed from a stilled position and then once you got that down you incorporate movement to hide it even more. Like a magician utilizing misdirection in a magic trick. You usually get knocked out from punches you don't see. Depending on your arm position before the jab is thrown and its strength you usually won't have enough power in it since you aren't using your whole body but the damage should be enough to make the opponent flinch or stunned enough for the second hit which you can now incorporate more body twisting and power because they are occupied by the first hit and are not seeing where the next one will be. The part when he says he doesn't understand how people thought about the elbow being used is because people don't understand that to even move your elbow you are actually using your shoulders to begin the movement. So I think practice raising your shoulders from a neutral position and then work your way to throwing a jab from the shoulder only. Don't dip with the legs to get power. Don't twist the hips before throwing. Just focus on the shoulder first. Where ever your hands are at when you are incorporating movement is where the jab will be thrown. Don't pull it back just poke. Just like when you poke with your finger you don't have to pull your hand back at all first, you can just launch your hand forward.
I love this idea! I remember the one with Kimbo as well. I still tend to wanna chamber or pause before striking. Yes, I need way more practice.
Love it! Thumbs up, relaxation is the way.
Almost mastered this, I'm a boxer, but I use alot of Master's(MJW) techniques, thank you for teaching me this year's ago, and teaching me how to form a fist👊🏿(correctly) , way easier on my wrist💯
@@billyfoster8127 shut up, you don't know me from anyone, and you have know idea the training a dedication I put into fighting, IVE definitely almost mastered this technique and if you want proof, check my channel and keep and eye out for my latest training video.
@@billyfoster8127 you have know idea that I have trained MJW non telegraphing techniques since I was 16(26 now)... SHUT UP... Your a complete scrub and yet you think you know anything about me to try to say what I have and haven't mastered?? I wish I could find you IRL, I would gladly hold a sparring match with you, just to see if you have Even basic martial arts abilities... but I doubt it🤣🤣 freaking scrub, Bums like you need to keep quiet or atleats post a video of you, to prove your not the worthless bot you are
@@billyfoster8127 and I said ALMOST for a reason you moron, I know I still can improve, but I can promise I'm way ahead of you, worthless Bum get a life and stop hating on people you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT💯
@@billyfoster8127 it's all good, I understand that people just throw words around.. But I'm not one of those people.
I would seriously advice you to work on your technique. You got a long ass way from being able to punch properly and effectively.
This is a great illustration. I've always had a habit of throwing my arm first. May be related to having a large "ape factor" giving me longer reach than I appear to have. I have been teaching my 9 year old about telegraphing and I think i'll have him watch this video with me. Seeing it from a 3rd person point of view is going to be very helpful.
This demonstration always amazes me💖💖💖
He not like the others his movies translate to real life. Peace and blessings to u and your family i learned alot from you.
i used to practice this 4about 15 years since when i first started. once you know how to throw combos with it, Flawless.
I'm a Bajiquan master here in Norwalk, CT and this way of striking is large part of the baji style.
The purest example of "hand is quicker than the eye"
I thought it’s the other way 😂
it is the other way round.
if you wanna go deep into it
the eye speed is 38000 mph
no hand can beat that.
but the eye can also be slow.
if it wants too.
then the hand will beat that.
but it is nowhere near faster than the eye 👁
highest hand speed recorded is about 100mph.
nowhere near the eye
@@dmagz0121 if you can't apply your mathematics to real world situations then it's only a theory and regarded as irrelevant information for this argument.
@@jamesechevarria6177 the eye is fast…it’s faster than the hand…….however, it requires a lot of focus to react that quick to that punch. The thing is if you are focusing on reacting to that specific punch, you absolutely can and you’d most likely would, however youll lose focus on other things (ie: the next punch). Because over-focusing on one thing, tunnel visions you to that specific thing and it can be quite mentally exhausting.
Always a fan of micheal J. Hes a beast for realzy. Doesnt get the bug budget rolls he should. This dudes skills are off the charts.
0:33 Puts the paper down like "Y'all got me fkd. Let me show you again!" 😂😂😂
I been fighting like that. Didn't know why. But it's more powerful to get your hips involved. But that's only once you make it inside. Great technique
The weird thing is, guys who throw these instant punches seem to knock people down with them an awful lot. According to Bernard Hopkins, it's because the shock of the punch makes up for the lack of power. As long as the punch is accurate.
@@EGarrett01 The most devastating blow is the one the opponent doesn't see coming. The force behind it is mostly secondary.
Finally someone remembers about the punches of Roy Jones man, his punches were incredibly fast.
Michael’s a ninja! That’s crazy.
The video with Kimbo had me scratching my head like it was a magic trick... I appreciate this video... Now I need to practice
break it down big guy, your a true inspiration for us middle aged martial artist and any age martial artist🥸🙏🏽
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The way he punches fast with ease its a technique Ive somewhat acquired too. Very interesting.
"Sucker punches beat skill."
I agree, never give your opponent a fair fight, that's how you get teeth knocked out.
Exactly.....a fights a fight after all.... unless ure in a dojo and u have to follow rules cuz ure learning self defense and not martial arts
This follows with sound technique for historical rapier and modern sport fencing as well. It's effect is even more compounded in that situation, because you are extending a long weapon to attack before you are putting your body in danger by leaning or stepping.
Exactly. Catch em off guard
Bruce Lee use to talk about this a lot.
Especially that move in punch at the same time hit. It’s super not telegraphed and it works.
Man, I sure learned something new today. Off to try it on my gramma! Thanks Michael J White!!!
Excellent practice. Keep em up!
Thanks!
that was such an amazing demonstration. that cleared it all up. bravo
I remember that video on the set of Blood and Bone. Good technique makes a huge difference.
Blood and Bone was so good. It should have been in theaters and had blockbuster advertising.
Any chance of a sequel? How about working with Matt Mullins again? Both of you have awesome high kicks and that fight was intense.
I feel the same way too!!
Matt Mullins definitely needs to be in more movies.
@@hitrule5722 He didn't get enough attention, even during his Dragon Knight days. He made Kamen Rider Knight look even more badass as Kamen Rider Wing Knight. The original scenes they did there were amazingly good.
@@whyisblue923taken Yeah i always wanted to watch it but can never find it anywhere.
Ive applied this technique to annihilate flies ever since watching the kimbo demonstration. MJW is the real deal. Too dangerous for ufc!
Jon Jones was focused hard trying to move his hand. The "that's quick" at the end just confirms MJW is a martial intellect amongst pros and masters
No, it just means Jones is a slow fuck and you aren't able to see that.
@@logansummers1551 what a worthwhile comment 👍 best of luck Rhodes scholar.
Keep on showing them youngsters that changing their perception will create new avenues.
I remember that demonstration with Kimbo Slice(R.I.P).
That is awesome. Even just watching it on the screen you don't see it till he's 3 quarters of the way through the punch.
Awesome video thanks for being such a cool dude
The best of the best. I wish Michael would fight in a tournament again.
Maaaaaaaann...this is the guy you DO NOT want to get into it with at the club lmao.
It'll be a short night
That’ll be unfortunate 🤣
I remember after watching the Kimbo video I taught myself to punch with all my body and movement going forward. My boxing coach at the time took notice and told me that while the technique is great for fighting; it would come of short in boxing just because of the loss of potential volume and the very slight decrease in range
I’ve been trying to do this since I was 16 😂 that was a legendary video back in the day!
Some people are great fighters and some people are great teachers. Over the years I've encountered instructors who weren't that great at fighting but they could coach a person into being a great fighter. Conversely I've met great fighters who really weren't great instructors in the Do Jang or coaches for the ring. I feel like Mr. White is one of those rare exceptions who's both.
Looking forward to training with you, thanks for the content.
This is exactly what I was looking for, I was always told I was telegraphing my punches extremely, I hope your video can assist me, thanks 😅
It legit feels like a fast punch; even done slowly
I'll have to practice this
Thanks for teaching everyone!
Much respect for how humble Michael is, thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge
Man the typeof guy to knock u out then explain how he did it
man i love you .,,.,.one of the super humans who are alive in this era
Was this why Muhammad Ali's jab was so effective? Was he good at not telegraphing his punches? The accuracy and frequency of Ali's head strikes were always very baffling to me, and i always sensed that something other than speed or anticipation was at work there...
man everyone gave Jai so much shit for saying he can probably beat Bruce Lee. That's an reasonable assessment. (i still lean favor to Bruce but it's not like he is saying something so outlandish) Based on all the information we have the chance is definitely there and not so small like 10%. Bruce's power, explosiveness, speed and endurance is of course outta this world even today based on purely footage frame rate and his training regiment. But weight does also play a big part. (why even 3lb is another division in boxing) it could be like 30-70 odds etc. And he expressed in an respectful manner. He wasn't talking about legacy or influence regarding martial arts. In that area no one comes close to Ali, Bruce, those level of guys etc.
Technique over skill love this
Michael Jai White never gets any older! He looks just as old as he did back in the 1990s when he played Spawn!
I tried this on Deebo. Worked like a charm. Didnt have we to use my AK. 💪 Live to fight another day. Thanks michael!
MJW is a national treasure
I never new the guy who got mad at the joker, was so passionate about martial arts, much respect
Saw this for the first time in the Blood and Bone special features. Awesome movie, worth the watch if you haven't seen it.
I’m impressed that first guy was able to move out of the way of that first punch. It looked freakin’ quick to me.
This dude cracks me up. It’s like the only thing he knows.
ricardo lopez uses this technique with his jab. Almost like a drop step with his punch. Or thomas hearns with his flicker jab hiding the movement with swaying and bobing of his arm
His "wrong" punch would still rock 95% of the viewers. Dude is crazy. 🔥