Thank you for sharing your insight, we have more updates coming in a future patch. we have reported the inverted actions of the LTC AFT and FWD switches. Best regards - Bignewy
@@Tigger137 Not everyone wants to be, or even can be a beta tester in that capacity. It could also be tough given that he's active duty and ED's a Swiss-based company with Russian developers.
One of the best aspects of DCS, is the input and participation from actual real world pilots, ground and air crew who have hands on experience with the prototype counterparts of these virtual models. I can't imagine how lackluster DCS would be, without these people and their contributions. So, thank you.
I'm grateful to be able to share my experience with the community! I've spent around 13 years in the DCS community and always loved learning from real world SME's. Now that I have that real world experience, it's my absolute pleasure to be able to give back. Thank you for the support!
As another noted here, it is so cool to be able to see real World Pilots and Simmers, who have a lot of knowledge and advice to offer, demonstrate via tutorials and having fun. Huge resource in the DCS environment. Thanks for the tips 47Driver!
Yes! finally another 47Driver video on the Chinook. I know it's very bare bones in DCS right now, but glad to see you back at it. looking forward to more stuff with you and your IRL crew/friends in DCS
Class is now in session. I simply love how you explain everything in detail. I truly feel like I am learning a whole lot about this aircraft. Can't thank you enough kind sir. Looking forward to more sessions and missions in the future.
Although I'm in the UK, thank you for your service. You've created another great video helping us demystify the Chinook so we can fly her around and get the best from her. I'm loving your content :)
Thank you for the professional explanations of all the cool new "easy mode" flying of the DCS CH-47. Bro, you totally need to become a SME for Eagle Dynamics on this bird.
They have a great team of SME's already, though I'd love to help out of course. Just don't know that I'd have sufficient time to dedicate to it unfortunately. Thanks!
I love watching tutorial videos from actual pilots who fly these wonderful aircraft. You get so much more insight from RL operations and quirks that aren't necessarily in the sim. Love it!!
You explain things so well. It's amazing getting a real pilot's insight into this and has made me really want to focus on the Chinook. Thanks so much for your contribution!
Great video! I always appreciate your insight on the Chinook. No apologies. You are providing great info for free. Don’t let the social media monster get to you. The way the algorithm works, is also intended to drive creators to make more content. Do what you can, when you can, and don’t worry about it any more than that :)
1. thank you for your service. 2. i think the way you figured out how to display the control indicator looks great for those who have asked to see it and i certainly dont mind it staying. Thanks for the vid! informative as always
Great job explaining how the squat switches and the lct’s correlate. When I was in the crew wrote up acft out of rig. Every time they pulled in power to taxi it lifted the fwd gear off the ground. All that was wrong was the aft left strut was over serviced.
To move the indicator DCS World > Mods > aircraft > GCBase > Cockpit > Scripts - controls_indicator_page.lua line 40 base.init_pos = {0, -(1 - 1.5 * size)} play with those numbers and see what happens, I'm 88.9% confident those control the position 😋 Also, thank you for your videos, great to hear from an actual pilot and look forward to any future videos 👍
This was a great video! I have been spreading the word of your great videos! As for making more etc. Do what you want, when you want. Don't worry about what others think or feel any pressure to make a video. Do it when you have time and want to put something out there for us to watch. When people start focusing on cranking something out or worrying about small stuff, they burn out and stop all together. My philosophy for making videos is to make videos which *I* like to watch (and I do watch my videos over and over). I like to help people so I enjoy making how-to stuff or showing me flying around, bombing stuff as I figure it may help someone out or entertain them. Do something like that and you will enjoy making videos and will keep at it. Looking forward to more. Thanks again!
@@47Driver Your control indicator solution was great, and your explanations really help us armchair pilots understand what's going on. Look like I need to unlearn some tail-rotor habits with my feet.
Many thanks for your professional input I highly appreciate having SEMs here interacting and passing on their skills and knowledge. Thank you and fly safe.
That was fun to watch... The little nuances and tid-bits were very interesting. I kept waiting for you to pull off the quilt in the back to show-off what was going on. Maybe a live walkthrough of the 47 matched up with this video down the road?
Don't think I could get away with that legally, but not sure. Would certainly be cool if they'd add a feature to remove some of the panels/soundproofing in the future! Thanks!
Love your Great HELP/TEACHING...i still can not hoover worth a damm...going to look and see IF you have posted any tutorial CH-47 setup/getting started videos :) Again THANKS for taking your time to help us Mortals out :)
Welcome Back 47, and love the Videos. I used run out of these for many years. I personally Would love to see a Communication/Radio video. Not much out there right now. And I cant seem to get my freqs to Store and set into the CDU for operation.. Change /Enter etc. And working with SRS. Think that would be a great video for all to benefit from with your knowledge and especially those in Multiplayer Servers.
Was on the lookout for your videos. I bought the 47 but early release was a broken mod. But I think I will start her up today! Your video's is really the best for the 47
Not a mod this is a full fedelity module, and it wasn't broken. It's not finished for sure but it is completely flyable. I bought it day one and worked on this bird as 68D in US Army.
Love hearing your input on how to do this and utilize the features of this bird. I tried to do the Army WOFT program and maybe fly these but unfortunately the Navy wouldn't let me go. Something about us being low on submarine electricians and that the weren't going to let me go anywhere lol. Thanks for your service, sir!
That's a shame. I went through Flight School with a guy who served on Subs in the Navy and was able to transfer. He's an Apache Pilot now. You couldn't pay me to be on a Sub!
this was a very essential update. im no pilot but ive ridden in em a few times. Now they need to add hydraulic leak effects in the cargo area, Ive had lines drip on me and was told by to crew to only worry when it stops leaking XD
Thanks for covering this so quickly! Really appreciate the explanation as well - understanding the chinook’s unique features is so much easier when you’ve got someone able to explain it in plain English. When you say the LCTs are extending and retracting, you mentioned it acting on the hub; is it moving the whole hub, or is it adding a bias if you will to the swashplate or something?
Worth the long time waiting- good you are back:-) Can you say some words regarding cyclick trim-functions- I see on the stick a "AFCS-TRIM" button? When you push that, will it hold the present cyc.stick postion? How do you use that? How is the wind reading on GND is generated on the PFD? Thanks!
Thanks! The AFCS Trim function is not implemented yet, but will essentially function like the trim hat in any airplane you may have flown in DCS. The cyclic will actually move fore and aft in response to fwd/aft trim on the switch. It will not move in response to roll L or R trim, however, as these commands are made directly through the AFCS system to the rotor heads. The wind reading comes from a solution generated via the EGI system, which I'm not going to delve into. Essentially an inertial navigation system like airliners and a lot of other aircraft have.
Happy new year. Love your video's as they are really helpful for getting me up to speed with the Chinook module. Some things can't be learn from a book ;-). Do you plan to produce more content?
From a loadmaster to pilot, thanks much for educating us! I’m still struggling with the trim. I hit the trim once in forward motion and the Chinook takes a dive on me, I have to put the ole meat hooks on the cyclic to make sure I done drive her into granite cumulus, lol
I had given up on this bird.. But the LCT implementation made me fly it again. It is much easier to fly when you dont have to loook at the ground all the time. Smooth sailing. I flew yesterday some routes and it was very easy to do, not needing BOB or any other mode, just trim.
I appreciate your content. All I'll say is (with 20 years in the RAF behind me), be careful you don't drop something sensitive into your video and get yourself in hot water 😅
I am very careful about what I say for this reason. I appreciate the comment! Certainly have to be careful, but nothing I've discussed in my videos is sensitive in nature, and I will not entertain those discussions either.
Good to see you post again. Hope the Army isnt treating you too bad in the field lol. Just on the AFCS, is it similar to UH60 in that it has an inner loop and outer loop? Incredible systems on these helos.
I know next to nothing about the UH60's AFCS or SAS system, really. Not familiar with the inner/outer loop concept, can you describe them to me? Maybe it's comparable. Thanks!
Great video and very useful, I was just wondering how you've configured your trim. As I struggling to get it working in the Chinook. Is it like the Heuy were you push the cycstick into a posistion, first, and then set the trim, by pressing a button or is it more like the F/A-18 where you set trim using a 4-way hat trimmer button?
Right now, it's the former. Move controls, hit the button, release controls back to center quickly. In the future, it will be both. Just waiting on the addition of the AFCS Trim functionality, then you'll also be able to trim it like the F/A-18.
17:20 You said your speed is up at 140 kts after having made roughly a 180-degree turn. Is that displaying airspeed or ground speed? Does the CH-47 AFCS try to maintain constant ground speed or constant airspeed? Or does that speed indicator display groundspeed? Because I have (in a version from about October) set a 15-knot wind in a DCS mission and flew back on forth into and then with the wind and the speed indication changes, about 135kts going with the wind and about 105 kts into the wind. A normal aircraft would not do that. The indicated airspeed would remain 120 kts, only the groundspeed would change. I'll have to check that more and with other aircraft. Maybe DCS is screwed up with regard to IAS and GS?
This is a bug. The VSD on the 47 displays Calibrated Airspeed ie. indicated Airspeed corrected for installation and instrument errors, with a Ground Speed indication on the HSD below the wind indicator. I mentioned this briefly in the video that I think DCS is displaying Ground Speed instead of KCAS on the VSD. You're absolutely correct in your assumption.
Great video. Any way to have a Larger Airspeed and Altitude display? The MFD Displays of this are just too small to view. Keep making informational videos that helps the DCS community. :)
No way to change the size of anything on the displays other than full page or half page format for some pages. The VSD can only operate in half page format. I use an ultrawide so I don't really have issues reading the displays, but I'd recommend just zooming in a bit and keeping most of your scan outside.
@47Driver awesome thanks for the answer, must be quite the beast to fly in real life. I'm a utility pilot and hopefully one day I'll be on a civilian chinook! Luckily for me I have DCS for now to practice!
Good afternoon, I had a few questions if you’d be willing to answer them! I’m currently active duty army and am aspiring to become an aviator in the Army. Do you think flying this module would be a benefit to my packet and help me getting selected? If so how much! Thank you I appreciate it Chief!
Hey thanks! Outstanding to hear that you're thinking of giving this flying thing a shot. I don't think flying this module would benefit your packet or help you get selected in any way. HOWEVER, flying DCS and flight sims in general WILL help you with a lot of the basic concepts in Flight School when you eventually get there. Helped me a lot being a sim nerd for so long before I went and did the real thing.
I'm at around 17:28 watching your control indicator just for example, I don't know why but when I am flying at slower speeds my controls look more or less like what I would expect (stick forward and slightly to the right). But once I am getting over 100 knots or so (certainly at 146knots like you are here) I find myself having to constantly apply back pressure on the stick to keep the helicopter from nosing over. Once I slow down I can fly with the stick forward as usual. I've been wondering if that is what is expected of the chinook or, the more likely case, if I've just been missing something.
@@47Driver Isn't it function of the DASH? I am not sure that I understand correctly how it works, but isn't it trying to move cycling to more natural/ aft position? In real acft I assume it would just move cyclic on its own, but with spring joystick one has to move it aft manually? Also does DASH function means, that above 40kt the forward cyclic causes increase (without power change) of IAS but no descend? Of yes, altitude changes are made just by thrust lever and cyclic climb is not possible? Please forgive so many questions, but this Chinook is just fascinating and I love your videos. I am helicopter pilot myself, flying EC135, but 47 systems are so different from what I ever experienced in my flying career and I am grateful that we have a chance to fly that thing in DCS. Please keep more videos comming👍.
@@petrposelt7013 Here’s a couple things that may help you understand the system a little bit more. 1. Moving the cyclic fore and aft changes the collective pitch on the fwd/aft rotor heads ie fwd cyclic decreases collective pitch on the fwd rotor and increases collective pitch on the aft pitching the aircraft around the CG(roughly the center cargo hook). This is known as differential collective pitch (DCP). 2 cyclic feathering is accomplished by the LCTs automatically by the AFCS and not by the pilot (even if the system is turned off). With the AFCS off as you speed up, initially you will have to push fwd cyclic, but, as your LCTs program fwd, and your aft rotor gains efficiency, you would have to keep pulling the cyclic back as far as 2 inches aft of neutral (negative stick gradient) to stop nose low attitudes. It’s pretty unnatural and uncomfortable. The DASH maintains attitude/airspeed yes, but also maintains a positive stick gradient by automatically taking out the fwd DCP as the LCTs program and airspeed increase. Maybe this is something 47Driver can expand upon in his next video but I hope this comment helps.
@@anthonymccormick2029 Hi. Thanks a lot. This indeed helped to understand. It looks like pretty complex and interesting engineering. And fascinating too.
@47Diverwhere did you get the livery??? I'm looking to get some 6-101 stuff. Also do you have pedals with springs? I find it kinda awkward with my MFGs without the springs for trimming
This is the default livery. There are currently 2 default liveries, one is the D model dark green, and the other is the F model tan with the Big Windy decal.
@@jello912 you guys get all the glory usually anyway, so I'm fine with it personally 😅 have you checked the user files section on the website? Surely there are some user made liveries there for ya.
Why are you constantly bobbing up and down while hovering? is this normal? when I watch videos of irl helos i don't see them drastically bobbing up and down in a hover, they usually maintain a constant hover
Normal to an extent. The big thing is in a real helicopter I can feel what's happening and react to it, and anticipate it. In the sim, that's near impossible at least with my setup. Also as stated in the video I had a significant amount of wind going for this mission. Altitude fluctuations are very common when it's windy.
I actually believe so. The rigging on older F model variants meant that Neutral was actually around 1.5" aft if I remember correctly. Been some years since I flew the older software versions of the aircraft.
If the LCT's didn't retract, the nose high attitude would be significantly higher than this. Most, if not all helicopters, hover with a slight nose high attitude.
@charliemills989 I've got some buddies over there. Just keep your head down, and be a sponge. Learn every little thing you possibly can. Hang out with the crew dogs, sit in the jump seat on flights, etc. And have thick skin!
@@charliemills989 are you in the Eagle Dynamics discord? If so, find me on there and shoot me a message. Don't want to talk about personal things on here.
looking at your video, i feel pretty dumb 😅 i'm very struggling to keep this big boy stable during a straight fly, i must adjust constantly the pitch angle, in consequence i constantly gain and lose altitude.. what's wrong? simple skill issue? 🤣 Regards from Italy
Can you give a simplified explanation as to why the chinook likes a left crosswind almost as much as a headwind? No need to go into extreme detail, I am too stupid to understand anything beyond the simple stuff. I would have thought due to the size it would dislike any crosswinds.
I'm no expert, and hopefully 47Driver will correct me if I'm wrong. My guess would be because that is already the direction the blades are moving the air in relation to the helicopter. Think about an egg beater and how it's "blades" rotate inwards and move the eggs from front to back. Now turn that sideways and you have a chinook's rotors to some extent (obviously they are designed more to move air down than sideways but it still does that to some extent). The left crosswind flows with that naturally and a right crosswind is actively fighting that airflow. Again this is purely a somewhat educated guess and hopefully 47Driver can chime in with the facts and correct me.
It has to do with the counter rotating blades and the the effect of the fuselage on the efficiency of those blades. The forward rotor spins counterclockwise and the aft rotates clockwise. Because of this, in a left crosswind you’re getting more air over the advancing blades that are at the 12 o’ clock and 6 o’ clock. At the same time, the retreating blades are moving over the fuselage which reduces lift a small amount, and the airflow is in the center of the aircraft is also more turbulent due to the fact that you have two blades operating in close proximity to one another. Getting more airflow over the blades on the outside of the aircraft helps more than getting airflow over the blades on the inside. When heavy, you’ll even see some people takeoff with the aircraft slightly out of trim in order to take advantage of this.
Not a bad thing at all with the workload that pilot's constantly have to manage! May not be as "fun" in the sim, I guess, if it's not trying to kill you all the time lol.
Pls Don't ever be an instructor pilot. 4Driver. You spent 5mins describing DASH where you could have said it's similar to auto pilot. There I just described it.
Thank you for sharing your insight, we have more updates coming in a future patch. we have reported the inverted actions of the LTC AFT and FWD switches. Best regards - Bignewy
Nice to see you here in the comments, Big!
Oh nice! I was already taking mental notes on the timestamp for a future report. ;)
A smarter move would be to ask 47 Driver to test it, then you know its correct BEFORE an update is released officially.
@@Tigger137 Not everyone wants to be, or even can be a beta tester in that capacity.
It could also be tough given that he's active duty and ED's a Swiss-based company with Russian developers.
@@aaronwhite1786 Good point, except for one thing.... in a FB post a few months ago he actively offered to help.
One of the best aspects of DCS, is the input and participation from actual real world pilots, ground and air crew who have hands on experience with the prototype counterparts of these virtual models. I can't imagine how lackluster DCS would be, without these people and their contributions. So, thank you.
I'm grateful to be able to share my experience with the community! I've spent around 13 years in the DCS community and always loved learning from real world SME's. Now that I have that real world experience, it's my absolute pleasure to be able to give back. Thank you for the support!
As another noted here, it is so cool to be able to see real World Pilots and Simmers, who have a lot of knowledge and advice to offer, demonstrate via tutorials and having fun. Huge resource in the DCS environment. Thanks for the tips 47Driver!
Thank you!
Yes! finally another 47Driver video on the Chinook. I know it's very bare bones in DCS right now, but glad to see you back at it. looking forward to more stuff with you and your IRL crew/friends in DCS
Much appreciated!
Class is now in session. I simply love how you explain everything in detail. I truly feel like I am learning a whole lot about this aircraft. Can't thank you enough kind sir. Looking forward to more sessions and missions in the future.
Greatly appreciated!
Although I'm in the UK, thank you for your service. You've created another great video helping us demystify the Chinook so we can fly her around and get the best from her. I'm loving your content :)
Really appreciate the support from across the pond!
Thank you for the professional explanations of all the cool new "easy mode" flying of the DCS CH-47. Bro, you totally need to become a SME for Eagle Dynamics on this bird.
They have a great team of SME's already, though I'd love to help out of course. Just don't know that I'd have sufficient time to dedicate to it unfortunately. Thanks!
I love watching tutorial videos from actual pilots who fly these wonderful aircraft. You get so much more insight from RL operations and quirks that aren't necessarily in the sim. Love it!!
You explain things so well. It's amazing getting a real pilot's insight into this and has made me really want to focus on the Chinook. Thanks so much for your contribution!
Thank you!
For being active duty, you provide us with a lot of videos and good content. Appreciate the extra work you are putting in
Thank you very much!
Great video! I always appreciate your insight on the Chinook. No apologies. You are providing great info for free. Don’t let the social media monster get to you. The way the algorithm works, is also intended to drive creators to make more content. Do what you can, when you can, and don’t worry about it any more than that :)
Much appreciated as always, sir!
1. thank you for your service. 2. i think the way you figured out how to display the control indicator looks great for those who have asked to see it and i certainly dont mind it staying. Thanks for the vid! informative as always
Awesome, thank you. And thanks for the support!
This is huge improvement. Just home from 40 hours of road trip do after dcs updates will be checking this out! Good work 47
Thanks!
Lol how many miles did you go?
Grade A content. Keep em' comin' sir.
Great job explaining how the squat switches and the lct’s correlate. When I was in the crew wrote up acft out of rig. Every time they pulled in power to taxi it lifted the fwd gear off the ground. All that was wrong was the aft left strut was over serviced.
@@CH47MILK i have experienced this a time or two. It's pretty scary lol
To move the indicator
DCS World > Mods > aircraft > GCBase > Cockpit > Scripts - controls_indicator_page.lua
line 40
base.init_pos = {0, -(1 - 1.5 * size)}
play with those numbers and see what happens, I'm 88.9% confident those control the position 😋
Also, thank you for your videos, great to hear from an actual pilot and look forward to any future videos 👍
I will give this a try, thank you!
This was a great video! I have been spreading the word of your great videos! As for making more etc. Do what you want, when you want. Don't worry about what others think or feel any pressure to make a video. Do it when you have time and want to put something out there for us to watch. When people start focusing on cranking something out or worrying about small stuff, they burn out and stop all together.
My philosophy for making videos is to make videos which *I* like to watch (and I do watch my videos over and over). I like to help people so I enjoy making how-to stuff or showing me flying around, bombing stuff as I figure it may help someone out or entertain them. Do something like that and you will enjoy making videos and will keep at it.
Looking forward to more. Thanks again!
Greatly appreciate it!
Hell yeah, been waiting for more from you! Welcome back!
Thanks!
@@47Driver Your control indicator solution was great, and your explanations really help us armchair pilots understand what's going on. Look like I need to unlearn some tail-rotor habits with my feet.
Many thanks for your professional input
I highly appreciate having SEMs here interacting and passing on their skills and knowledge.
Thank you and fly safe.
Love yir passion and time to help us noobies. Respect for your service IRL. I am Scottish and a DCS novice. Keep up good work pal
Thank you!
I appreciate you coming back to cover this new stuff. Your videos made it to where I could fly this thing without trouble.
Very glad to hear that. Thanks!
Great video, thanks for getting it out so quickly! 👍👍👍
Thank you!
your videos are great; thanks for taking the time to make them.
Nice explanation, sir.
Flight control indicator is fine even in a such configuration.
That was fun to watch... The little nuances and tid-bits were very interesting. I kept waiting for you to pull off the quilt in the back to show-off what was going on. Maybe a live walkthrough of the 47 matched up with this video down the road?
Don't think I could get away with that legally, but not sure. Would certainly be cool if they'd add a feature to remove some of the panels/soundproofing in the future! Thanks!
Thank you for your service and your video, man !
Much appreciated!
Great work, and really appreciate you taking the time to put it together.
Love your Great HELP/TEACHING...i still can not hoover worth a damm...going to look and see IF you have posted any tutorial CH-47 setup/getting started videos :) Again THANKS for taking your time to help us Mortals out :)
Nice to see you're back! especially when the chinook model has been updated. Thanks for the vids your making :)
We can't wait to watch your new videos, man. Thanks for making them! :)
Thank you very much!
Welcome Back 47, and love the Videos. I used run out of these for many years.
I personally Would love to see a Communication/Radio video. Not much out there right now. And I cant seem to get my freqs to Store and set into the CDU for operation.. Change /Enter etc. And working with SRS. Think that would be a great video for all to benefit from with your knowledge and especially those in Multiplayer Servers.
Keep em coming🚁 I value these vids.look forward to future content 😎🇨🇦
Thanks! Will do!
Thank you for all your amazing tutorials!
Thanks for the kind words!
Appreciate you taking the time required to produce these instructional videos, thanks 👍
Glad you enjoy them, I appreciate you watching!
If you ever do a cross-country and stop into TYS, we'd love to meet you. Thanks for the inciteful videos and assistance.
Grew up just down the road from ya, actually. I'd love to swing by on a flight one of these days!
Thanks for explaining this it is much clearer. 😊
Was on the lookout for your videos. I bought the 47 but early release was a broken mod. But I think I will start her up today! Your video's is really the best for the 47
Not a mod this is a full fedelity module, and it wasn't broken. It's not finished for sure but it is completely flyable. I bought it day one and worked on this bird as 68D in US Army.
Love hearing your input on how to do this and utilize the features of this bird. I tried to do the Army WOFT program and maybe fly these but unfortunately the Navy wouldn't let me go. Something about us being low on submarine electricians and that the weren't going to let me go anywhere lol. Thanks for your service, sir!
That's a shame. I went through Flight School with a guy who served on Subs in the Navy and was able to transfer. He's an Apache Pilot now. You couldn't pay me to be on a Sub!
that’s ok. Helicopters scare me lol. I’m making a campaign for the Chinook. Would you care to be my Guinea pig?
@@brandonzaidi9717 sure I'll gladly try it out!
this was a very essential update. im no pilot but ive ridden in em a few times. Now they need to add hydraulic leak effects in the cargo area, Ive had lines drip on me and was told by to crew to only worry when it stops leaking XD
Still true to this day! She's a leaky girl. If she's not leaking in some capacity, it probably means she's empty....
Thanks for covering this so quickly!
Really appreciate the explanation as well - understanding the chinook’s unique features is so much easier when you’ve got someone able to explain it in plain English.
When you say the LCTs are extending and retracting, you mentioned it acting on the hub; is it moving the whole hub, or is it adding a bias if you will to the swashplate or something?
Thank you! Essentially they just tilt each swashplate forward
Thank you for another great educational video!
Thanks for stopping by!
Thank you very much, can't wait for more tutorials!
More coming soon!
Love your content. Thank you for your service!
Much appreciated. Thanks for your support!
Thank you! Great video - looking forward to more
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
Yet another outstanding video thanks
Worth the long time waiting- good you are back:-) Can you say some words regarding cyclick trim-functions- I see on the stick a "AFCS-TRIM" button? When you push that, will it hold the present cyc.stick postion? How do you use that? How is the wind reading on GND is generated on the PFD? Thanks!
Thanks! The AFCS Trim function is not implemented yet, but will essentially function like the trim hat in any airplane you may have flown in DCS. The cyclic will actually move fore and aft in response to fwd/aft trim on the switch. It will not move in response to roll L or R trim, however, as these commands are made directly through the AFCS system to the rotor heads.
The wind reading comes from a solution generated via the EGI system, which I'm not going to delve into. Essentially an inertial navigation system like airliners and a lot of other aircraft have.
Happy new year. Love your video's as they are really helpful for getting me up to speed with the Chinook module. Some things can't be learn from a book ;-). Do you plan to produce more content?
I do! Life is very busy right now. Getting ready for a deployment. Thank you and Happy New Year!
@ understood. No worries and stay safe.
From a loadmaster to pilot, thanks much for educating us! I’m still struggling with the trim. I hit the trim once in forward motion and the Chinook takes a dive on me, I have to put the ole meat hooks on the cyclic to make sure I done drive her into granite cumulus, lol
Not flying the Chinook, but Apache in DCS. Still love watching your videos.
I appreciate that!
this guy is actually a real army helo pilot!
I had given up on this bird.. But the LCT implementation made me fly it again. It is much easier to fly when you dont have to loook at the ground all the time. Smooth sailing. I flew yesterday some routes and it was very easy to do, not needing BOB or any other mode, just trim.
Will only improve from here!
It's a massive improvement compared to before. Much more flyable and not like trying to wrestle a pissed off dragon lol
From now on your name is John Chinook. Looking forward to more videos.
Awesome video! Could you please compile together a video or document regarding features you've found that just aren't in the Chinook?
I appreciate your content. All I'll say is (with 20 years in the RAF behind me), be careful you don't drop something sensitive into your video and get yourself in hot water 😅
I am very careful about what I say for this reason. I appreciate the comment! Certainly have to be careful, but nothing I've discussed in my videos is sensitive in nature, and I will not entertain those discussions either.
@@47Driver Awesome. Just looking out for you. Keep it coming because I'm learning a lot and enjoying the expert tuition.
Good to see you post again. Hope the Army isnt treating you too bad in the field lol. Just on the AFCS, is it similar to UH60 in that it has an inner loop and outer loop? Incredible systems on these helos.
I know next to nothing about the UH60's AFCS or SAS system, really. Not familiar with the inner/outer loop concept, can you describe them to me? Maybe it's comparable. Thanks!
Would love to see some campaign missions from you!
Thank you for the video!!!!!!!
Great video and very useful, I was just wondering how you've configured your trim. As I struggling to get it working in the Chinook. Is it like the Heuy were you push the cycstick into a posistion, first, and then set the trim, by pressing a button or is it more like the
F/A-18 where you set trim using a 4-way hat trimmer button?
Right now, it's the former. Move controls, hit the button, release controls back to center quickly. In the future, it will be both. Just waiting on the addition of the AFCS Trim functionality, then you'll also be able to trim it like the F/A-18.
17:20 You said your speed is up at 140 kts after having made roughly a 180-degree turn. Is that displaying airspeed or ground speed? Does the CH-47 AFCS try to maintain constant ground speed or constant airspeed? Or does that speed indicator display groundspeed? Because I have (in a version from about October) set a 15-knot wind in a DCS mission and flew back on forth into and then with the wind and the speed indication changes, about 135kts going with the wind and about 105 kts into the wind. A normal aircraft would not do that. The indicated airspeed would remain 120 kts, only the groundspeed would change. I'll have to check that more and with other aircraft. Maybe DCS is screwed up with regard to IAS and GS?
This is a bug. The VSD on the 47 displays Calibrated Airspeed ie. indicated Airspeed corrected for installation and instrument errors, with a Ground Speed indication on the HSD below the wind indicator. I mentioned this briefly in the video that I think DCS is displaying Ground Speed instead of KCAS on the VSD. You're absolutely correct in your assumption.
Thanks from afghanistan.
Great video. Any way to have a Larger Airspeed and Altitude display? The MFD Displays of this are just too small to view. Keep making informational videos that helps the DCS community. :)
No way to change the size of anything on the displays other than full page or half page format for some pages. The VSD can only operate in half page format. I use an ultrawide so I don't really have issues reading the displays, but I'd recommend just zooming in a bit and keeping most of your scan outside.
One ball width during the entry and half ball width during the turn....
Retired 47 MTP here. Funny trigger words on flashbacks..
Hell yeah! Love MTPs, somehow always seem to learn more from MTPs than IPs.... enjoy your retirement!
Does pedals have a neutral with the chinook? Or are they no neutral like most lhelis?
They do have a neutral position and it is imperative that they are neutralized for any 4 wheel ground operations.
@47Driver awesome thanks for the answer, must be quite the beast to fly in real life. I'm a utility pilot and hopefully one day I'll be on a civilian chinook! Luckily for me I have DCS for now to practice!
Thank you.
No, thank you!
Also this is for anyone who can help, how does one turn on the RWR?
Power page on the CDU will get you fixed up.
I took her out after the update to see what she can do now. Think the fastest I got her to was almost 180 kts 😮
Hi re you active Regular Army, or are you in the Guard? 101st aviation here. Thank you for the video
RA. Thank you!
Good afternoon, I had a few questions if you’d be willing to answer them! I’m currently active duty army and am aspiring to become an aviator in the Army. Do you think flying this module would be a benefit to my packet and help me getting selected? If so how much! Thank you I appreciate it Chief!
Hey thanks! Outstanding to hear that you're thinking of giving this flying thing a shot. I don't think flying this module would benefit your packet or help you get selected in any way. HOWEVER, flying DCS and flight sims in general WILL help you with a lot of the basic concepts in Flight School when you eventually get there. Helped me a lot being a sim nerd for so long before I went and did the real thing.
On your 10 ft hover, were you putting any controls into it? Or do the LCTs help maintain that stability?
Very minor inputs on the cyclic but that's it. Not so much LCTs helping with the stability, it's the AFCS.
Now they need to model EAPS and IRSS to the aircraft, especially if you're flying in theater lol
EAPS Suck! Lol
What's the worst wind direction to take-off, hover, land in for the chinook?
Tailwind
I'm at around 17:28 watching your control indicator just for example, I don't know why but when I am flying at slower speeds my controls look more or less like what I would expect (stick forward and slightly to the right). But once I am getting over 100 knots or so (certainly at 146knots like you are here) I find myself having to constantly apply back pressure on the stick to keep the helicopter from nosing over. Once I slow down I can fly with the stick forward as usual. I've been wondering if that is what is expected of the chinook or, the more likely case, if I've just been missing something.
That is not accurate behavior for the aircraft, no. Not sure what's happening there but could be a bug. I'll see if I can replicate.
@@47Driver Isn't it function of the DASH? I am not sure that I understand correctly how it works, but isn't it trying to move cycling to more natural/ aft position? In real acft I assume it would just move cyclic on its own, but with spring joystick one has to move it aft manually? Also does DASH function means, that above 40kt the forward cyclic causes increase (without power change) of IAS but no descend? Of yes, altitude changes are made just by thrust lever and cyclic climb is not possible? Please forgive so many questions, but this Chinook is just fascinating and I love your videos. I am helicopter pilot myself, flying EC135, but 47 systems are so different from what I ever experienced in my flying career and I am grateful that we have a chance to fly that thing in DCS. Please keep more videos comming👍.
@@petrposelt7013 Here’s a couple things that may help you understand the system a little bit more. 1. Moving the cyclic fore and aft changes the collective pitch on the fwd/aft rotor heads ie fwd cyclic decreases collective pitch on the fwd rotor and increases collective pitch on the aft pitching the aircraft around the CG(roughly the center cargo hook). This is known as differential collective pitch (DCP). 2 cyclic feathering is accomplished by the LCTs automatically by the AFCS and not by the pilot (even if the system is turned off). With the AFCS off as you speed up, initially you will have to push fwd cyclic, but, as your LCTs program fwd, and your aft rotor gains efficiency, you would have to keep pulling the cyclic back as far as 2 inches aft of neutral (negative stick gradient) to stop nose low attitudes. It’s pretty unnatural and uncomfortable. The DASH maintains attitude/airspeed yes, but also maintains a positive stick gradient by automatically taking out the fwd DCP as the LCTs program and airspeed increase. Maybe this is something 47Driver can expand upon in his next video but I hope this comment helps.
@@47Driveralso, love the videos! Keep it up 👍🏻
@@anthonymccormick2029 Hi. Thanks a lot. This indeed helped to understand. It looks like pretty complex and interesting engineering. And fascinating too.
@47Diverwhere did you get the livery??? I'm looking to get some 6-101 stuff. Also do you have pedals with springs? I find it kinda awkward with my MFGs without the springs for trimming
This is the default livery. There are currently 2 default liveries, one is the D model dark green, and the other is the F model tan with the Big Windy decal.
@@47Driveroh man I guess I never noticed the default had a decal on it
I'm in 2-17 Cav and it's a shame that literally none of the army helicopters in DCS are Fort Campbell units haha
@@jello912 you guys get all the glory usually anyway, so I'm fine with it personally 😅 have you checked the user files section on the website? Surely there are some user made liveries there for ya.
Why are you constantly bobbing up and down while hovering? is this normal? when I watch videos of irl helos i don't see them drastically bobbing up and down in a hover, they usually maintain a constant hover
Normal to an extent. The big thing is in a real helicopter I can feel what's happening and react to it, and anticipate it. In the sim, that's near impossible at least with my setup. Also as stated in the video I had a significant amount of wind going for this mission. Altitude fluctuations are very common when it's windy.
is the back cyclic normal for hover? (it used to be neutral cyclic)
I actually believe so. The rigging on older F model variants meant that Neutral was actually around 1.5" aft if I remember correctly. Been some years since I flew the older software versions of the aircraft.
also you say "look at that level fuselage" ... uh what you're very obviously at a back angle while hovering?
If the LCT's didn't retract, the nose high attitude would be significantly higher than this. Most, if not all helicopters, hover with a slight nose high attitude.
I’m a 47 pilot on my way to my unit out of flight school - any words of wisdom or stuff you wish you knew when you showed up?
@@charliemills989 where ya headed?
@47driver Korea
@charliemills989 I've got some buddies over there. Just keep your head down, and be a sponge. Learn every little thing you possibly can. Hang out with the crew dogs, sit in the jump seat on flights, etc. And have thick skin!
@@47Driver thanks! I am sort of intimidated by how much I don’t know but I’ll find some good mentors. Thanks for your advice and be safe out there.
@@charliemills989 are you in the Eagle Dynamics discord? If so, find me on there and shoot me a message. Don't want to talk about personal things on here.
Iv been busy. I never flew the chinook that I preordered lol
Give it a try now, she's pretty awesome.
looking at your video, i feel pretty dumb 😅 i'm very struggling to keep this big boy stable during a straight fly, i must adjust constantly the pitch angle, in consequence i constantly gain and lose altitude.. what's wrong? simple skill issue? 🤣
Regards from Italy
@@Red_J4ck did you turn the AFCS on?
@47Driver always set on "both"
Awesome Video. Keep Being all I can't be today. USA
Can you give a simplified explanation as to why the chinook likes a left crosswind almost as much as a headwind? No need to go into extreme detail, I am too stupid to understand anything beyond the simple stuff. I would have thought due to the size it would dislike any crosswinds.
I'm no expert, and hopefully 47Driver will correct me if I'm wrong. My guess would be because that is already the direction the blades are moving the air in relation to the helicopter. Think about an egg beater and how it's "blades" rotate inwards and move the eggs from front to back. Now turn that sideways and you have a chinook's rotors to some extent (obviously they are designed more to move air down than sideways but it still does that to some extent). The left crosswind flows with that naturally and a right crosswind is actively fighting that airflow.
Again this is purely a somewhat educated guess and hopefully 47Driver can chime in with the facts and correct me.
It has to do with the counter rotating blades and the the effect of the fuselage on the efficiency of those blades. The forward rotor spins counterclockwise and the aft rotates clockwise. Because of this, in a left crosswind you’re getting more air over the advancing blades that are at the 12 o’ clock and 6 o’ clock. At the same time, the retreating blades are moving over the fuselage which reduces lift a small amount, and the airflow is in the center of the aircraft is also more turbulent due to the fact that you have two blades operating in close proximity to one another.
Getting more airflow over the blades on the outside of the aircraft helps more than getting airflow over the blades on the inside. When heavy, you’ll even see some people takeoff with the aircraft slightly out of trim in order to take advantage of this.
I mean, pretty solid comparison actually. Never thought of it like that, but you're essentially correct.
Bingo!
CAN THIS CHINOOCK PLAY SEARCH AND RESCUE MISSION
Absolutely
@47Driver with night navigation
It really makes it too easy to fly. 😅
Not a bad thing at all with the workload that pilot's constantly have to manage! May not be as "fun" in the sim, I guess, if it's not trying to kill you all the time lol.
I really like ur vids, but honestly, get to the point lol !
Pls Don't ever be an instructor pilot. 4Driver. You spent 5mins describing DASH where you could have said it's similar to auto pilot.
There I just described it.
@johnmc6155 great job, you should be an instructor pilot!
So many voice cracks 😂
One of them Army pilot quirks.
Lol, I hate it. Just a result of me trying to talk at a lower volume than I usually would, I think.
Awesome video!