The copyright fucked my ass. Started posting this 10:00 PM on Saturday, finally got it up at 7:24 AM on Sunday without issues. Never putting Pacific Rim in a video again. Also yes, while explaining the plot of Pacific Rim I am in reality describing the plot of Reign of Fire. You’re welcome. Discord - discord.gg/atyzDTceyx
Sorry that was rough bud and also the lore on the kaiju is they are a bunch of cloned monsters being telephoned there by a builder race who is actually interested in te planet. Kaiju are like thier drones or just war machines and they seem to be endless just portal being unstable being the only thing stopping them coming in endless waves of Massive armies of 500 ft tall monsters.
Thanks for calling the movie Edge Of Tomorrow. Thank you so much for that. The movie is based off a manga, so I think the Mimic name is explained there.
@@ubfubeufbeuibinfejnjfnejn2283 In and of itself Copyright is a good thing. The problem is when they put a computer in charge of deciding what's okay and what isn't. Rouga wasn't trying to steal the IP, he was making a comparison video. This video is free advertisement for every subject compared. Putting copyright strikes on something like this is stupid.
Especially because have you seen what happens, it takes less than 24 hours to take back an entire planet. And also how we won the war against the Automatons very fast, yet they came back but you get what I mean.
Yeah, at first I was thinking alien would be tough to beat but then he brought up a point that they're like the terminids and I said: "In that case, just another Tuesday" I also think the absolute paranoia of the government and its people make Super Earth extremely resistant to the first two factions. Nothing like disregard of human life! If nothing else, just napalm barrage the affected area and then brand the helldivers there as traitors and traitor barrage them with napalm. Necessary sacrifice for democracy folks! Kaiju could be a problem for regular troops but if you add the destroyer into the mix I have to disagree with him about them being immune to stuff it throws down. Is it going to soak up a bunch of fire and a new one sent in to better combat the prevailing tactics? Absolutely. But I've seen the movie and played Helldivers and the Kaiju still bleed when hit with a big enough slab of metal so the humble precision strike is going to be your bread and butter. Mimics I do think are a big threat due to time travel and the fact that Super Earth won't listen to affected Helldivers, thus putting them in a very vicious loop as they are executed for being traitors. Also, the scientists of Super Earth are surprisingly adaptable, so I'm going to say it depends on if they figure out the alpha thing. If they do, Super Earth simply issues weapons designed to permanently restrain Alphas instead of outright ending them, thus sidestepping the time travel trigger and potentially harvesting this time travel function for Super Earth's use and causing another Terminid situation of could end it but choose not to. More Helldivers would be lost trying to restrain rather than simply killing but it's all worth it for managed democracy!
Reminder: Helldivers are monitored basically at all times after thawing by a Democracy Officer. Xenomorphs: Any infected Diver would be ordered to self-terminate or be declared a traitor. The Thing: The MOMENT the thing's shapeshifting or assimilating nature is discovered, any diver that's been in close contact with a suspected thing would be either quarantined, or just straight up disposed of. Super-Earth was at war with an entire species in the first galactic war that could use mind-control... AND WON. I would stack the odds against anything that tries to take on the full might of Super-Earth.
that's pretty much it If we have even the slightest suspicion about a xenomorph on board we strait up self destroy the S.E.S Super Destroyer and deploy a new one with a fresh defrosted crew
People can only think of these aliens in the context of the movies they came from where all kinds of convoluted bullshit happens to justify the aliens being nigh unstoppable. Xenos are the worst of the bunch if you take the comics into account because they're literally omniscient and always know exactly what to do to win, the fact they're animals be damned; They'll fly a starship if they have to to win. And if they can't win they have humans to do it for them for equally convoluted reasons like Wey-Yu
Apart from the Warhammer universe the only army I see squashing Super Earth are The Covenant. The SEAF is essentially a Spartan-less UNSC. And Spartans were the reason humanity won in Halo.
I like the dumb idea that if superearth somehow learned about the mimics time bullshit that they might start farming that resources like they do with the insects
Farming the mimic would be damn near impossible, because the creature that can turn back time could sense that the mimics are being used and it could just turn back time
I think once they realise that the acidic blood is a way to gain he time resetting ability, they would probably try to get a helldiver covered in its blood to aid with the war.
I don't think that'll make much of a difference for ant of these encounters for better or worse. Xenomirphs and the thing'll keep playing it stealthy till they get caught, Kaijus will continously tear reinforcements apart till the planet is uninhabitable, and Mimics i'll just keep resetting till they've established larger numbers and more secure ground
It takes two hits, and they're either stock bashing or pistol whipping it, but still a highly impressive display of strength. It's my belief that the stims they take have something to do with their exceptional strength and stamina.
@@t-e-a6752 Unlikely, before you even have any stims in the tutorial mission you can still do this stuff, and you specifically need a booster that puts experimental stuff in your stims to actually make them affect anything else, making you faster
@@Rhino-Prime I imagine Helldivers training is the last part of their training because they are picked based on their aptitude scores during regular training, because they'd have no prior knowledge of how to load and reload their large arsenal of weapons otherwise. Also the missions are borderline suicidal, so it's smart (sorta) to have only the most devoted in their ranks, even if they're likely to die they can be assured they'd fight til they physically drop. There's a blurb when you talk to the lady by the engineer that strategems are so expensive they are solely FOR Helldivers, so being taught to use them is specially made for that program. Their training is still, otherwise, hilariously short lol SEAF forces not much better, which are 'volunteer' conscripts that train for a minimum 72 hours. Also an interesting thing to think about is that a lot of Helldivers are on standby, but they were likely frozen in reserves for decades. Those missiles we see in base defense missions are actually Helldiver pods attached to the same rockets from the tutorial-- they're not ordnance like the mission says, they're the frozen reserves.
@@Whazzupie Yes, it does say it's only 72 hours.But what if the reason why this training is so short is likely because like I said earlier because they train their whole lives.They're literally given a firearm.I think on their sixteenth birthday
@@voidtempering8700Training for SEAF is decent, but Helldivers only get 30 minutes of training. We just have so many divers to throw at the enemy that training is too expensive.
In Pacific Rim, aliens created Kaiju so they could terraform earth. The Kaiju were sent through underwater portals. That's how they got to earth. It is shown in the first Pacific Rim movie that the Kaiju are sent through portals underwater. They were never on earth to begin with. The aliens could put portals anywhere and send their Kaiju those portals.
@@demian_csomic_winters9484 that's even dumber because Godzilla Kaiju are either the result of nuclear testing or they're being sent by aliens just like the ones from Pacific Rim.
@@Spartan_803 wether dumber or not in nuclear option version of Godzilla he was there sleeping under the Ocean similar to what video dude said only difference is awakening methods one is pollution and other nuclear. Do you have better suggestions for less than enlightened people may learn?
Yeah I can tell from the moment he starts talking about them that he has never seen pacific rim nor has he actually bothered research anything about them like it's literally explained how they came to earth in the first three minutes of the movie blud's just yapping
I think another thing for the Xenomorphs is that any managed democratic loving helldiver will not hesitate to "help" their patriotic brother if they were implanted with eggs.
I’d like to think our Super Earth Helldivers are so patriotic that any Xeno that emerges from them would be saluting Super Earth and ready for the dive
"Wait wait wait! Shoot my chest first, just in case. Then you can shoot my head. For Democracy!" Helldivers go hard and regardless of who you are they would be some scary mfers to try to fight against.
Someone from the internet telling you Helldivers aren't trained soldiers after looking at Helldivers 2 gameplay is such a someone from the internet thing to do
That is because they weren't. In Helldivers 2 they are cannon fodder pumped full of stimulants. Only in Helldiver 1 were they elite troops. I mean, they have a 20% survival rate. The gameplay mechanics dont exactly correlate to lore.
@@theorcamafia That is also true. They also set up training camps, so they are likely improving training as time goes on. The initial force was mainly because they were not as prepared as they could be.
I remember in lore it took on 50 Helldivers to take a planet from HD1. They're probably a lot more capable than what we give credit for because to fact that as players we die ALOT.
"a lot" is still usually less than 30 people for operations so important that they're about launching an ICBM (which the automatons would work very hard to make sure wouldn't happen)
@@voidtempering8700 27 million divers for an enitre planet, but killed almost 14 times as much, including heavy bots. the average being only about 14 is probably because a lot of times they were overwhelmed and died before they could get a good killcount per diver
Xenomorphs do have one big advantage: they are stealthy, and good stow aways. I imagine, until Super Earth starts quarantines and detailed inspection of each ship, and detailed searching of planets, they will be a constant problem. Like rats, if rats killed people.
I agree but I think the thing has that advantage in a stronger amount because realistically if the thing was found anywhere else except Antarctica it would have like destroyed the human race
I feel bad for Xenomorphs, they usually fight and attack in numbers, and in claustrophobic areas where it would be harder for Heldivers Out in the open, they get ripped appart way too easy. RIP spookie bug bois....
If it's one of those situation where the xenomorph took over a planet like in the comics. Where that hand multiple queeen running around they could do better
@@samuraibear5102 Moreso if the Helldivers had to fight Xenos more on THEIR terms. In buildings, caves, etc. Then Helldivers would have less access to orbitals and be less likely to walk away scott free. Also I think Ruga has overestimate bile titan acid, and underplayed Xenos acid. Bile titans havent been shown melting anything with their acid, just damaging/blinding Helldivers... Xeno acid burnt through starship grade metals with ease, and even the futuristic armour worn by Predators and Space Marines... pretty sure Helldiver armour is gonna get melted as well
I'm unsure if even in their home turf xenomorhps would get advantage cause helldivers got laser, plasma, flame and electric weapons. And while laser and plasma might be argued to wound xenomorhps making their blood a problem (although laser weaponry having infinite ammunition without reaching overheat), flame weaponry and high voltage weaponry completely bypass that. On top of that arc (electricity) weapons have a literal infinite ammo and arcs up to 4 targets on a single shot, so with something like arc Blitzer (whis is an infinite ammo shotgun that blasts a wide burst of high-voltage electricity that arcs between all units) or arc thrower (which deals enough damage that it drops bile titans in several shots) the xenomorhps would essentially get cooked as even with their speed the shot is semi tracking to the target so one helldiver could drop 4 xenomorhps with one shot and then proceed to maw down their entire nest dropping xenomorhps like flies with his comrades and at the end pull out the arc thrower or flamethrower literally frying xenomorhps queen in seconds...
@@whywright2663 Interesting hypothesis. Ill have to check on some of these claims like the laser/plasma weapons having no ammo limit and also no overheating, cos that sounds like an OP af weapon. Does it have any drawbacks? Like very light damage or something? Also, while your arc weapon claims sound good, not sure how they would effect Xenos, and if 4 at a time with an arc is really gonna slow down a possible swarm of xenos, or even a single one stealthing around. They have been shown taking gunfire, and puncturing metal with tails. A queen is also gonna just sit around and let herself be fried, on more than one occation, in the movies, the Queen has been show walking around in, and escaping fire. In Alien Isolation, a regular drone is onky barely slowed down by flamethrowers as well, meaning you wont be able to just cook them up. With Helldivers traveling in teams of three, and arc weapons bouncing between up to 4 targets, thats still only 12 xenos at a time that they can focus on at once, and again, not sure how electricity weapons effect Xenos, so it will be interesting at least.
You're missing one thing with the Mimics that's important: If you kill the queen, it's dead for good. No time resets at all when the queen dies. Remember, they killed it in Edge of Tomorrow 'in the future' and then went back to the start of the day and the queen was dead. So, if the Helldivers can stop the queen from landing on the planet, say by shooting down asteroids above a certain size as a matter of planetary defense, the invasion is stopped before it begins. There's also that if the attack Super Earth launches against it is powerful enough to reach and kill the queen, the Mimic invasion is dead.
They were slowly able to kill it due to Cage getting thousands of chances to reach it via the time bullshit and a device that allowed him to mind fuck the omega to find it’s location something Super Earth doesn’t have.
@@rougarabid Dammit, you made me go and do research, my brother in Christ. This'll be a bit long of a post. Now that I've looked things up, I think you're overestimating the Mimic's abilities and underestimating the capabilities of Super Earth to counter the Mimics. The Mimics can't target and destroy the Super Destroyers, nor can they really shut down Eagles from making attack runs. This means the Helldivers have a distinct firepower advantage over the Mimics. They can't even set up ambushes for the arriving Helldivers because the Super Destroyers can bombard the area the pods are landing in to wipe out anything there. The war in EOT is also a much different beast than the war fought between Super Earth and her enemies. In EOT, the war had lasted 5 years and the Mimic only took over Europe. Humanity, going on current military numbers, would have lost about 30 million soldiers of its total military force if it was fighting a war and steadily driven back, including their equipment. That's enough to exhaust most of our modern nations. Even so, the omega felt the need to trick the humans into committing the bulk of their remaining reserve forces in an attack so it could kill them off. That indicates the omega felt there was still a very real chance that the humans could defeat it and keep their planet, otherwise why take the risk of having happen exactly what happened in the movie? My bet is that the omega could only create a drones at a reasonable rate, nowhere near rapid. I'd estimate there were probably somewhere around ten to fifteen million drones on Earth during the movie, with that alpha in the movie being either the only one or one of two or three and being present only at very important battles. Anything more and they'd be overwhelming humanity easily at every stop and there wouldn't be a front line. In Helldivers, for contrast, in the 9 weeks that Malevelon Creek was fought over, 27 million Helldivers died and 376,36 million Automatons were destroyed. Super Earth, the Automatons, and the Terminids are able to throw so many bodies into a battle with the Mimics that they simply cannot keep up in a war of attrition, no matter how many time loops the Mimics do. Being able to loop as much as you like doesn't turn something with a 0% chance of victory into a victory. The individual omegas can extend out the campaigns on each planet they're on using their time bullshit, but they simply will lose wars of attrition on each world until Super Earth realizes that if they kill the omega, they kill the infestation. At that point each planet's battle turns into a pitched defense of the omega in one or two battles, allowing Super Earth to focus as many Helldivers on that one battle in that one day as needed to win.
@@RedneckRaptureAnd it has been stated within the lore in helldivers that each and every super destroyer could blow up a small moon. And Super-earth has a few thousand of these in orbit in each frontline planet. This is of course not including the fact that super earth does have other spaceship classes that are much more powerful than the super destroyers (like how will they fight the space ships of automatons and illuminate without dedicated space combat ships). Super Earth can just glass the planet if they wanted to, they don't because the planets have strategic value.
@@rougarabidto be fair the hand there were very unprepared. The exo suit sweet not all that helpful and the aliens were still in need of the time travel to progress the war. I have no doubt the Helldivers would easily find the queen. And the destroyers have enough fire power to kill it with little effort from orbit
Helldiver's are most definitely trained, I completely agree. Try reloading a heavy machine gun CALMLY and QUICKLY while under heavy mortar fire, and watching one of your guys get misted. These dudes are trained for sure
There training is relativley minimum compared to what they got in Helldivers 1. They are basically baseline troops who only got a few weeks of training at max.
@@voidtempering8700 enlistment in the seaf is 14 or 1^6 jears I think, and you need to be seaf trained to become a helldiver, you become a helldiver around 18 jears, so 2 jears of training in the worst scenario.
@@voidtempering8700 do you remember that the helldivers were already trained before the war and put on cryogenic sleep to save them if the super earth got on another war?
@@legendaerycraft2226 Enlistment in the SEAF was Helldivers 1, not Helldivers 2. Most of the people who joined the Helldivers in Helldivers 2 were originally civilians.
Actually, the Kaiju from Pacific Rim are from a parallel reality that opens in the Mariana Trench, and the Kaiju are biologically engineered weapons by an alien race who can breed naturally as one was pregnant in the first movie. So Pacific Rim Kaiju can just pop up from interdimensional reality gateways and start destroying infrastructure.
@@rougarabid There's also the part where the first Kaiju sustained 2 weeks of constant bombardment from modern weapons, so they are extremely durable to anything but possibly missiles and energy weapons or Jeager melee weapons.
@@rougarabidappearently there's even whole ass packs of them living in Australia with growing babies if you take that netflix pacific cartoon as into account.
@@rougarabidand we haven't seen the helldivers have any weapons which are able to destroy planets aside from that black hole which was only because they were lucky so realistically they can't mass-produce it it's a one-time use.. and the helldivers aren't exactly fully armored.
@@Automaton237We CAN mass produce dark fluid. Its just risky, and unstable, as seen when one of the production fluids had an accident that created a blackhole. Its only used as a last choice, as seen on meridia, which is our only example of a super colony to date.
Character 1: Didn't we see a Facehugger melt through a helmet in the first movie? I'm not saying this would change anything, and I'm sure the helmet in Helldiver is stronger than normal space helmets, but I just wish to point that out. Character 2: Sounds about right. Character 3: they can make blackholes? Character 4: Imagine a Helldiver getting the time reset ability.
i thought the same about the face huggers and the helmets, but im pretty sure that in the original thing it is seen making a spaceship underneath the shack that they put the doctor in when they think he is a thing
I addressed this in the video. Helldivers armor defends against acid offten and many armor sets specifically specialize in repelling caustic and acid damage. They wouldn’t melt through them in the same way.
the blackhole thing was a one time thing, cuz they used an unknown substance called dark fluid they got from the last galactic war and they used all there supply of that dark fluid making that blackhole, so even if they ever wanted to make a new one, they cant
Survival video 24 of typing out the words “could these fictional monster hunters survive Monster Hunter” Also let’s fuckin go buff divers Edit: just thought of this and I’m not sure if anyone else said this yet, but the necromorphs from Dead Space would be interesting to see. Might be hard to do because we don’t exactly understand the extent of power they have (ex. The Brother Moons or whatever they are called)
It for sure doesn’t just have to be “monster hunters”, I just think that if he was up for it Monster Hunter has sooo much potential for survival challenges. Hell it could even be shit like “could the hunters guild from Monster Hunter survive *insert whatever horrible thing here*”
Necromorphs have mind hacks and almost total immortality, that's pretty much it. Flames (not actually sure if flames kill them totally) and corrosive chemicals are pretty much the only thing able to actually 100% wound them due to them destroying cells. The Marker needs biomass, living or dead, to make necromorphs. You have to pretty much completely deconstruct the cells into base atoms to kill a necromorph for good.
Chances are that he already has seen it or has monster hunter somewhere in his big ass list but wont get to it for a w h i l e since I'm assuming he doesn't know much about it. But I could be totally wrong
Xenomorphs Planet: *Exist* Helldivers: "Look At This Glorious Sight, All Of These Ships Hovering Above This God-Forsaken Rock, Waiting To Shoot Down Helldivers To Take This Planet For Our Own" ☄️
P.s. The automatons might actually end up using Xenomorphs in their invasions as a bioweapon. Just train a queen to realize "these guys aren't hostile if I leave them alone, and are useless to me." Xenomorphs, especially the queens, are very smart.
On hand every story in comics or novels or even the movies of trying to "train" a xenomorph almost always goes wrong. Of course it should be different for autonomatons as they often leave synthetics alone of they don't interfere, sooo maybe?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 just figure, the biggest thing will be avoiding being targeted as a potential food source and threat. Which might be just sacrificing automata until they learn it. The xenomorphs are smart. Transporting the eggs might be a problem, but if nothing else, maybe just having some live humans on the ships to get xenomorphs inside, then taking off. If the queen doesn’t figure it out herself.
The Automatons don’t need the Xenomorphs. They are a very advanced machine species that is capable of interstellar travel, developing orbital railcanons that shoot down spaceships, and Star Wars levels of super weapons (At-At Walkers). The Xenomorphs are not worth the hassle of keeping alive for Automatons.
@@crackededge9351Nope. Its a free bio weapon. You can stop an infestation but not before 5000 people died. All you have to do is drop 1 then it asexally reproduces through egg morphing and caused an infestation. One automiton cant do that. You create a problem that doesnt cost you much to create compared to what the enemy spends to keep the problem non lethal.
The only reason The Thing was really able to be defeated was because they were in the middle of the Antarctic completely separated from most biological life and even then everyone still died. If The Thing starts out on a heavily populated planet or just any area with large amounts of biological life (a Terminid controlled planet would be catastrophic) it will spread like wildfire. Couple that with its ability to assimilate the knowledge and personalities of those it comes into contact with and things will snowball completely out of control in no time and doom the entire galaxy to the point where the Automatons may be our only hope and even then its not guaranteed since by that point The Thing would be able to combat the Automatons using the knowledge and weaponry of Super Earth.
Furthermore, in the scenario of total loss of control, it would be the robots vs. the entire galaxy without any distraction that prevents concentrating all military power on a single objective.
The "Thing" gains all the knowledge of every being it has assimilated, as shown by the Blair Thing building a spaceship out of random shit from a 1980's antarctic base... it is 1000% getting off that planet and spreading very easily.
Agreed. It doesn't just go ham on people; It can also make a perfect copy of people it assimilates, so one helldiver getting could get infected and no one would know. It could go as far as infecting people quietly until it has it's own massive army of helldivers that can transform and do all sorts of crazy stuff on top of having guns.
i dont think terminids are capable of space travel on their own. the superearth people put them on planets to make it look like they’re a threat so they have an excuse to harvest their E-710 (oil). if helldivers drop down and see that things are super fucked up and there is no E-710, they’ll just turn it into a black hole like they did meridia
I said it gets the knowledge. I said I wasn’t sure if it got the memories but likely would. Destroyers exist in the atmosphere of every planet in the galaxy and an individual ship is stated to have the fire power to lay waste to a small moon. Once it’s discovered that the Thing is on the planet it will be quarantined and anything attempting to leave the planet will be shot down. So no it’s unlikely it’s leaving.
I dont think helldivers are trained for any piloting, but obviously if the thing can just assimilate enough people it'll become unstoppable via knowledge steal (until they try to not get nuked as soon as they leave)
Yes, and no. 🤔 It's very plausible at least one it's slipping, becoming the cockroach of the galaxy. Not all citizens or SEAF troops in the Helldivers world have the knowledge to build a spacecraft (fortunately). Granted a Thing gets more intelligent the more big it becomes, small forms are very instinctive and animal-like, it's possible it could build one depending on who it's absorbs. Based on what we know, it plausible the Thing would likely want to move to a more populated area of the planet to spread further but also flying to a spacecraft isn't out of the picture. Yes, it cand deceive and ambush, but by using the fact that the Thing only years for *self-preservation and spreading itself* , you can easily deduce it's next steps by keeping these two factors in mind. But in my opinion, due to how violently social and numerous we humans are, we could easily detect one before it's too late. It happened to the Norwegian outpost and the Outpost 31 with relative ease, just send a message to a Super Destroyer, quarantine the area and done!
I love the phrasing of the title because this really is more a question of whether the aliens could survive the helldivers than if the helldivers can survive the aliens, which is really fucking funny.
That’s because Super Earth is an absolutely busted sci fi faction. Instantaneous space travel, hundreds of billions of military personnel, super weapons capable of destroying planets, and don’t forget that in the first game, SE went from a radioactive wasteland to winning a three front war.
Would These Invaders (Starcraft) Zerg (Halo) Banished (Battlestar Galactica) Cylon (XCOM) Aliens (Prey) Typhon Survive Helldivers What other alien invaders should be on this list
@@Wisdombird Thats also a solar level threat. I don't know how the terminids would do, but I'm assuming the automatons would stand the best chance against them, other than going mad every so often.
The Kaiju come from another dimension, the rift is opened from another dimension completely underwater. The Kaiju themselves are not the aliens, their the weapons the aliens send to kill off the humans. And what makes them so freaking dangerous is that because that portal is open they can just keep sending more and more through it at whatever pace they’d like. In the movie they managed to send a Jaeger through the rift and blew a nuclear bomb on the other side, stopping their advance for decades.
I don’t think that’s true. Not the being sent from the breach thing them being able to send as many as they like. It makes no sense for them to only send 1 at a time for decade with a max of 3 if they could just swarm the whole planet with Kaiju. Having said that it doesn’t make a difference the issues the Kaiju have with needing higher CO2 levels to survive will still be an issue.
@@rougarabid you’re right about the CO2 thing, as polluted as the blood of the Kaiju is the creators that made them wouldn’t really try it as that would be too much work for it to be worth it. but in the movie it was an actual plot point that the rift was getting bigger and the Kaiju were coming through at a faster rate. At first it was like once a month, but over the course of a few years bigger ones kept coming through, and they started coming through faster than before. By the events of the movie they were able to send 2 extra big Kaiju through the rift, and not an hour after that 3 more really big ones. However the war torn worlds will be a serious F’ing problem as there is smoke in the air and lead in the ground on those worlds… in fact the war itself might actually be creating the conditions on these planets for the precursors to send the Kaiju through
@@MisterRombus- This is super well said. i was just thinking that too, the Rift was originally unable to send more than 1 kaiju every few months, but as time went on bigger and badder ones were able to go through (almost like the aliens where also advancing their own technology along the way) by the time of the dreaded second movie, the aliens were able to somehow take over a human mind and open a rift big enough for 2-3 super kaijus at once, so who knows what the helldivers would do then
@edima the kaiju were spaced out so much only to test exactly how much force was needed to wipe the planet for terraforming. The aliens were basically sending scouts to test the waters, but got nuked for taking their time.
@@rougarabid Don't ask me why but the aliens make kaiju by the hundreds then only send the best of the best out after they battle their siblings to the death. Yes its dumb
In defense of the Thing, there weren’t that many places to hide on a research base in Antarctica, it actually took about 2-3 days till they found out, and by then 3-4 of the original 12 were assimilated.
Just imagine, a squad of four Helldivers are sent down a terminid world and kick ass. One is stabbed by a strange terminid, but they manage to kill it as they stim their fellow Helldiver. They return to their destroyer to celebrate their victory when their once friend lurks among them as the Thing. If they find out, they’ll crash that ship into the planet, like the original movie. If not, they may hop from Helldiver to Helldiver to get to super earth.
@@keaganhoman7759 super earth would just literally nuke planets from orbit and d estroy infected super destroyers. i dont think it has much of a chance against insane fanatics willing to do anything for super earth
@@keaganhoman7759 I think the issue is that these were random ass researchers managing to stop and defeat the Thing *WITHOUT* access to the arsenal of Helldivers. Hell, potentially there's a real scenario where a fellow Helldiver just tries to heal his ally, and his ally proceeds to die from a stroke because the Thing is incompatible with said stim, since it's a separate alien lifeform.
If the Thing gets on a civilian planet with flora and fauna, it will take over MUCH faster than you think. The only reason it didn't immediately take over Earth in it's own movie is because it's in a frozen tundra and doesn't have access to biomass, if it dropped in a forest the entire planet would be fucked. Also, if it assimilates even one person who can fly a spaceship, it WILL get off planet because it has all of their memories and would know that Super Earth will destroy it eventually if it doesn't spread out. I also believe it would be much more stealthy than it was in the movie. In the movie, it was starving for who knows how long before it came into contact with people so it would have immediately attacked. After it had assimilated one person and knew how isolated they were from their memories it would really have no reason to hide anymore, because it knew help wasn't coming. If it both had ready access to food in a temperate area and knew that Super Earth would just glass it if it got too freaky, it would absolutely lie low. It might even get a part of it onto Super Earth before anyone knew what was happening, and we don't know what the defenses of Super Earth actually look like. If it hasn't been invaded in hundreds of years then it's quite likely that all of it's defenses are focused outward and it won't be able to respond too quickly on the ground, which would give the Thing enough time to spread and become a real issue.
Thats what I’m saying. Anyone who’s actually seen The Thing knows that the Helldivers wouldn’t stand a chance. The Thing is an extinction level threat. People think the terminid population is bad, the thing is infinitely worse. Quite literally. We are talking about a species that not only can spread rapidly and indefinitely, but can also take on the form of anything it’s came in contact with, with 100% precision and has the knowledge of everything it’s ever assimilated.
@@lejenddairy I mean, it's not 100% that The Thing would get to Super Earth. If it is found out before then, the Helldivers have a fairly high chance of black hole-ing it into oblivion. They cannonically CAN just delete entire planets, after all. If it DOES get onto Super Earth, though, it will immediately destroy the entire propaganda pipeline that is the backbone of the government. If the populace can't trust each other not to be compromised then everything would fall apart like a large-scale version of what we saw in the movie, and I don't think ANY fictional government could hide The Thing from their people if it really got rolling. The problem is that detecting The Thing once you already know it exists is very easy. The Antarctica base only had 10 people and they still found a way to pinpoint it. I imagine a ultra-authoritarian, propaganda based government would have no problem mandating regular blood tests from anyone who is using their.. air space, but in space? Space space? If a ship refuses the check it gets deleted, no questions asked, and people celebrate it as a victory even if it was someone who just had a faulty comms module. I'd say The Thing almost always wins if it gets to Super Earth before it's found, probably 25%-ish win rate if it spreads to multiple planets but not Super Earth before it's found, and guaranteed loss if it is caught on a single planet.
The thing under the disguise of civilians will just infiltrate the Superearth, after taking over distant colonies. It will have ships weapons and better tech than Superearth.
That's why the biggest threat to the Thing isn't the Helldivers, but the Ministry of Unity and all the other extensive ministries that monitor the civilians for any 'deviancy'. It'll be a test to see just how good the stealth of the Thing really can be
My BIG contest against the xenomorph argument is that the helldivers only get sent in BEHIND enemy lines, meaning just like the automatons, the xenos get to potentially farm seaf platoons before the helldivers get to the fight. And despite certain horde shooters, its proven that one decent xeno warrior can wipe out a whole team of people metal gear style
24:57 I'm pretty sure in the first Pacific rim movie it goes over how the Kaiju are essentially being teleported from another planet/ universe/ dimension and are just bio titans created with earth fauna DNA to wipe out humanity now that human have terraformed the planet But they are being teleported through a "rift" by their creators who you see right before the bomb goes off at the end of the trench fight
Alright, one more thing. The Kaiju aren't underground, they have a portal in the ocean, but they live in a different universe. Edit: The Kaiju themselves are also just a manufacturered monster made by a smaller, highly advanced race.
Im afraid your assessment of the Thing is inaccurate. 1. The Things retain the memory of their victims. How else can they mimic their hosts so perfectly. 2. They. Can. Build. Their. Own. Ships. Blair-Thing was building one. 3. Plate armor doesn't cover every part of the Helldiver. There is gaps were we see a body glove. The Thing only needs to stab/scratch/bite these places, and the diver is already dead.
I feel like the thing wouldn’t immediately be able to build a spaceship and escape but probably after taking over something like a major population center. Also even if the helldivers bomb the planet to death, probably one or more ships containing the Thing would escape the planet (likely gaining the info about the bugs) and heading over to that system and spreading like wildfire
Since I'm a massive alien fan, I feel the need to inform some people of their destructive capabilities. Xenomorph variation is much more then strength and size. For example, the xenos in fireteam elite have the ability to spit acid, or explode in a giant burst of acid on command. There are also giant preatorians, warriors, and a lot more aliens that are far more powerful then the ones seen in any movie. Helmet or not, facehuggers will get you. The prime example of this is in Alien. When Kane descends into the egg room on the derelict, the facehugger easily melts through his space helmet with ease. If the acid can eat through multiple hulls of a ship, im sure it can eat through helldiver armor. The acid that the bugs have is most likely far less potent. They could most likely easily pluck helldivers one by one. Since they can perfectly blend into darkness as you said, they could easily sneak up without making a sound and take one of them away. Once you see them, its already too late. The tails are extremely sharp and muscular, allowing them to lift up humans with ease extremely quickly. In any sense, I need a life.
The basic xenomorph is basically like a stalker, if the stalker was a bit smarter, could insta kill you and you die if you kill it. helldivers already kinda have issues dealing with stalkers, now imagine the entire planet is stalkers, imagine xenomorph upgraded stalkers, imagine if bile titans acted like stalkers.
I mean, xenos aren’t invisible and a heavy armoured diver can survive not only being hit by a stalker but being sent flying by it into a rock with the force of a car crash, sans shield pack. I can’t say I have too much faith in the xeno with the performance I generally see from them, though I’d be quite afraid of their tail, more so than the blood funny enough
@Shadow-sword yeah they're not actually invisible, but decent stealth is often better than just invisibility, yeah a diver can survive an encounter with a stalker but it's generally a more difficult encounter, and now the thing isn't going to try and fling you into a rock (but if it did it might hit harder) it's just going to immediately stab you in the head. The shield actually really would be a big help, but the xenomorphs are smart, and would figure out to break the shield first. I think if they're close enough that the tail is scaring you, then they're close enough for a single drop of blood to splatter on to you and depending where, it's just over.
@@someoneindeed eh, with how long the heavy armour can withstand the fire hose of acid from the titan (barely a moment, but long enough) I just truly can’t find the xeno all that intimidating in a stand up fight, they can be as smart as they want one mistake and it’s dead, not helped by divers now having melee weapons strong enough to beat chargers to death with in a face to face fight, it may not even get more that the one chance at a strike so if that hit is eaten by a shield that’s game over
@Shadow-sword but it doesn't really matter if the bile titan shoots a fire hose of acid if it's just a weaker acid, if one drop of the xeno acid can melt through you, it's more dangerous. Sure somehow, though unlikely, a xeno does make a mistake and you've somehow managed to not get a drop of blood in any vitals areas, congrats, now you have to fight the next 100 xenos, remember we are not actually talking about one xeno but a planet full. Also forget using a melee weapon, the xeno is faster and stronger than you to a point it can dodge bullets, you're not going to be able to hit it with the stick let alone beat it in the fight, even if you are somehow stunning this xeno you're just gonna get stabbed by the one behind you.
@ one can be beaten with a glorified space fork lift, for all their speed and intelligence it all falls off when it matters. And They don’t have their usual advantage of claustrophobic space ship interiors to fight and cower in, this is pitch battles on the surface of a planet often in broad daylight to prevent a nuke being direct injected into their nest, and Heldivers have been fighting a species that sprays acid constantly and explodes violently with acid for hundreds of years in far greater numbers, pretty sure there standard equipment is to some degree made with that in mind.
2:34 there’s a loading screen tip that shows you when you’re loading into the game that says you are super “earths elite don’t you forget that” so yeah the hell divers are the elite soldiers even the ones that only get two minutes of training😂
To be fair, the Viper commandos who are less armored are also basically close quarters specialists, so it actually wouldn't be surprising for them to get the Alpha blood. They use knives, carbines (shorter ranged assault rifles), and sawed off shotguns if we go by their warbond offerings. Also there are the Helldiver scout/light armors which are way weaker and seem to have a lot of cloth parts that the acid blood could possibly get through. Across dozens of planets and millions and millions of Helldivers, I think it's more likely than you suggested. As for who would actually win in the long run, I don't know enough about the Mimics.
Something I want to correct. Super Earth has not been fighting aliens for hundred of years. As far as I am aware, Super Earth has fought in only two galactic wars, the first being the war against the cyborgs (there is strong evidence the Automatons were created by the cyborgs), The Bugs (now called the Terminids), and the Illuminate. The war may start again and again after every time we win or lose in the first but that's not actually cannon. After Super Earth won the first war, there was 100 years of peace with Super Earth entering a 'Golden Age' with no major conflict against any other species. The second Galactic war started when the Automatons invaded on the west side of the galactic map and the Terminids broke out of containment on their Homeworld and have begun to spread once again. Super Earth hasn't been fighting aliens for hundred of years but that doesn't mean they aren't ready.
Yes, Super Earth fought the First Galactic War for 30-40 years. Also incorrect, Automatons did not exist before the Cyborgs did, if they did, we wouldn't be fighting Automatons in HD2. What did happen more than likely is that there were Cyborgs that fled outside the system and modified themselves to only require a brain to operate their bodies. Terminids don't have a homeworld, they only broke out of containment on planets and rapidly bred for the express purpose of making E-710, which accelerated their aggression with the rapid breeding.
"Building a giant Automaton on par with the Kaiju" isn't as far-fetched of an idea as you might think! Back in Helldivers 1, the Cyborgs literally had a boss fight against an actual mecha called the "Siege Mech". When it comes to the idea of boss fights in HD2, everyone talks about the Hive Lord skeletons and they're cool and all, but they all seem to forget that the Cyborgs had AN ACTUAL GIANT BADASS MOTHERFUCKIN' MECHA. That's the reason I'm excited to hopefully see boss fights in the future! The Great Eye was really cool, too. The aura of mystery around them made them seem almost Lovecraftian to me when I was younger, so I can't forget about that guy! :D
You don't gain Mimic time reset powers if you're covered in the blood of an alpha. That alone is not enough. You have to be covered in the blood of an alpha (maybe have it go into your mouth), at the exact same time that you are killed. That's why it's so rare for it to happen.
Alright, three things; 1) The Thing doesn't randomly attack people unless it's cover is blown or it can get someone alone. 2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy. Yes, it is a totally different organizem, but the cells will stay incognito baring very specific situations. 3) It's not a hive mind. Cells can only communicate while physically connected. That's why the blood test works at all.
1) It reveals itself at the start of the film be turning into a mutant dog creature for basically no reason. 2) This is worded weirdly. Sounds like you started defending 1 point but then just repeated your first point again. 3) That doesn’t make sense. The blood test is done separate from the host so bringing it up doesn’t prove your claim. Not saying you’re wrong but your argument doesn’t prove it.
@@rougarabid 1) In a secluded location, around animals that's cannot communicate it's secret. If clarke hadn't shown up when he did, The Thing might have been able to assimilate all the dogs and been back in disguise without anyone ever finding out. 2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy, so if the bugs make the oil blood, or if the oil blood has oil blood cells, then a bug Thing makes the oil blood. 3) In my mind, a hive mind means psychic communication, and the blood test shows that smaller Thing colonies can't be controlled by larger, and smarter Thing colonies. A Thing colony's intelligence is directly related to it's mass. A blood sample sized Thing is about as smart as a lizard.
@Lookalikealagaler the thing kind of does have a hivemind, just in the way that the thing has to infect by assimilation so new things will know what's going on automatically. But the cells will still instinctively react to pain despite instructions. The blood test works because it can't stop the blood from reacting.
As far as john carpenters the thing goes i disagree on 2 things ( no pun intended) 1. The whole thing about fire, yes we see in the movie that its the best way to handle it is with fire but there was a scene where talked about in the helicopter that the burnt remains of the split face- thing from the Norwegian camp still having cellular activity , so atleast for me it makes me wonder whats the full limits of Resilience 2. The things is most DEFINITELY STRONG, though it wasn't metal ,palmer-thing went straight through a wall while on fire and then also the Blair-thing towards the very end of the movie (though it was off camera) physically removed the entire generator that was powering the camp to cause a black out ua-cam.com/video/7jrJNEB9pjU/v-deo.htmlsi=wQTwvlpcBiJcUIi- ☝🏿 proof backing up my last statement. Lastly lets keep in mind we saw the blood of a assimilated crew member scarry off during the blood test scene, so even tho we haven't seen it its not far fetched that the thing could spray its blood or any fluids like the dog-thing did in the kennels, getting through armor making contact with skin , all it takes is one cell ( all feed back is welcomed, lets talk about it)
2:53 I’ve been saying this for a while but we NEED a Stratham that has a ship with like 10-15 little foot solders walk out so they can act like extra firepower and also distract the enemy’s while you advance or retreat
SEAF Shock Squad would actually be dope, especially if you could choose your reinforcements loadouts and give them commands once they drop. Imagine you could tell them to hop in a mech or scout Strider or make them pick up extra support weapons you call in. I imagine the potential weapons they could use would be limited to the base Liberator, Punisher, Diligence, Breaker, Scythe, and Defender, but you could use samples or requisition slips to give them better gear that you have unlocked (withdrawn each time you use the stratagem). That would also give mid level players with max Slips and top level players with max samples something to use them on.
12:22 Kane was wearing a helmet in the first alien movie, the facehugger used its acid to melt through. Helmet or no helmet, its still hugging that face.
The way the helldivers made the planet a black hole is the helldivers would land and inject dark matter into the planet until it collapsed into a black hole so they have to be on the planet
"Helldivers are hardly trained." *My dude reloading a light machine in gun in midair in under e seconds while jetpacking over an exploding horde of insects.*
28:35 ok so the Kaiju themselves don't do the Traveling, it's their alien creators the precursors that created the portal in the ocean the Kaiju emerge from. Theoretically I guess they"d be able to make a portal onto any planet in a dimension they'd like, at least in this scenario. I guess the bigger question though is if the Precursors would care to take over other planets once they have one, they may not have the resources or motivation for Galactic conquest. That being said any particular planet they want should be a cake walk to get with how durable even the less powerful Kaiju are, and How precursors with generically modify the next set Kaiju to counter the planets defenses as they learn more of their weaknesses. Of course they have no true counter to the planet getting destroyed, BUT since the kaiju portals onto open for small periods of time in secluded places, and only allow things with kaiju dna to pass through, it means the Precusors in their own dimension will always be safe to make more kaiju on a different world. Given the pacific rim humans only learned how to use the portal with drift technology the Super earths government might never figure out how to exploit that weakness
@@rougarabidI would argue youre underestimating xenomorph blood acidity. Sure, bile is acidic, but its not extremely acidic. I think the very fact a helldiver, even in just medium armour where a lot of area seems covered by simple fabric, can survive being covered in bile implies that it does not eat through human flesh or metal for that matter the same way xenomorph acid does. Xenomorph acid, even relatively small quantities, are shown eating through quite a bit. Maybe the armour protecting from caustic attacks would overcome xeno acid, I belive its 100% resistant? But normal armour? Id argue xeno blood goes through standard armour. On the other hand though? As soon as super earth discovers this (soon)? All warcrime enthusiasts would be sent to the xeno front and their equipment along with.
False. The original Thing film estimates it would take The Thing 3 years to fully assimilate Earth and this was an Earth with tech from the 1980’s not 2200’s like Helldivers.
@@rougarabid Typo. I meant to say "leave" a world. It nearly builds a flying saucer out of primitive 1980s human tech lying around on an arctic base, almost finishing it within the movie's timeframe. That is to say, it's probably very capable of moving to other planets on its own.
@@enfisu586 Like he said, it would take it 3 years to take over Earth, the moment anyone uninfected catches a sincere fucking whiff that some bullshit is afoot, especially considering a biological signature like that, and if they figure out how it works, hello Meridian!
Kaiju aren’t bred, they are cloned. Have you never seen the movie?!? The precursers clone them and send them through a rift at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to invade and blow up a volcano in order to finish terraforming the planet. The planet wasn’t fully polluted yet so the Kaiju were sent to finish the job early so the precursers could move in.
@@rougarabid oh yeah, forgot about that… Waitaminute how does that make sense? They are all clones, and the clones can have kids?!? Ok, I understand why I missed that, that kinda just makes no sense, also whose the f**king dad in that case lol? Monkey boi!?!?
@@rougarabid yeah but what you said about the kaijus look much more stupid, because in the video it really looks like you didn't pay attention during the movie, but you might have just forgotten about the whole "rift" thing, and that they don't hibernate in the ground for millions of years, that they are made by an advanced alien race, that they could clone a lot of them and send them to probably anywhere (but the pacific rim universe is kinda unfinished so honestly idk), and I think the kaiju don't need polluted atmosphere only their creators do and probably super earth won't be able to figure out how to get through the rift in time, since I don't think they have drift technology
The Thing gains all of its host's memories and is super intelligent, so i feel like it could definitely use a spaceship to travel off world and dominate the universe.
@@Gab12345BR people lol and it doesnt have to build one it can just steal one like the pelican that all helldivers use to extract from missions back to the destroyers
Pretty sure the creators said that the thing needs to make contact with a good portion of its body to assimilate. A few cells ain’t gonna assimilate someone.
A guardsman from Death Korps of Krieg: We've just suffered tens of millions of casualties. A average helldiver: Holy democracy, that's a great loss. How about yesterday?
One of the developers for the game said that the average life expectancy for a helldiver in the field is 2 minutes. Thay can use guns yes but thay are Cannon father.
Another thing to mention about the Thing. We can track our fellow Helldivers easily and even tell which way they're looking, so I have a feeling that Super Earth implants a tracking chip into every Citizen (I mean let's be real that's definitely fitting) and The Thing can't mimic metal if I remember correctly. So if someone is no longer trackable and then randomly shows up on the Super Destroyer that will instantly raise suspicion and then once they catch on to what is happening anyone who shows up and can't be tracked is just going to be killed by the Crew.
but yeah, Helldivers would have prepared mask and armor to overcome they acid, xenomorph only have a small chance of victory if helldivers attack an big hive, where we have super strong types of xenoid, and a queen comanding in they hive mind
I feel like the automatons would weaponize the Zenomorphs in someway, like intentionally catching and feeding them civilians or lesser native creatures that they have no need for, in other words, they would probably use them like the combine from half-life use headcrab zombies
Yk facehuggers can break through helmets right- like they do it in alien and those helmets are 5 layers thick, also predator masks get broken by facehuggers too, also the acid of xenos is more potent than the terminds acid, simply because xeno blood can melt through multiple layers of hull, even melt predator tech with ease, which means that xeno acid is stronger than some of the most durable metals in fiction, as predator blades are capable of not shattering when using against people like wolverine and black panther
If we're talking about Pacific Rim Kaiju, we see that there's a portal in the given movie we watch that they eventually start traveling out of when things are ready to sustain them. So it seems like they had a master race that genetically modifies them.
I think it's also important to keep in mind that the thing mainly spread through soft tissue. The terminids have exoskeletons, probably chitin, meaning the thing would struggle to move its cells as efficiently
For the mimics in Edge of Tomorrow, we all know that if an Alpha dies, time goes back a day. BUT if you kill the Omega, it also resets time. It actually resets so much, that they literally just don't attack you at all.
Idk what else you’d expect considering they get dropped literally into an enemy planet. And also considering they send a squad of 4 dudes to take on thousands. (Around 20 if you die too much) but a 20 for like 1000 trade is pretty damn good trade.
For the intro part, my theory is that the helldivers are clones based off the original (your character) and their memories are put in the next diver and yourself. Which is why all your divers have the exact same loadout, stratagems, armor, etc. It also implicates the idea that when you burn through reinforcements, you have to wait for more because they’re cloning new divers
If you know anything about the World of Darkness setting that could be a cool setting for a survival challenge. I'm thinking could either vampires or monster hunters survive the World of Darkness?
The copyright fucked my ass. Started posting this 10:00 PM on Saturday, finally got it up at 7:24 AM on Sunday without issues. Never putting Pacific Rim in a video again.
Also yes, while explaining the plot of Pacific Rim I am in reality describing the plot of Reign of Fire. You’re welcome.
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Yeah, copyright shouldn't exist.
Sorry that was rough bud and also the lore on the kaiju is they are a bunch of cloned monsters being telephoned there by a builder race who is actually interested in te planet. Kaiju are like thier drones or just war machines and they seem to be endless just portal being unstable being the only thing stopping them coming in endless waves of Massive armies of 500 ft tall monsters.
Can I do it instead of the copyright?
Thanks for calling the movie Edge Of Tomorrow. Thank you so much for that. The movie is based off a manga, so I think the Mimic name is explained there.
@@ubfubeufbeuibinfejnjfnejn2283 In and of itself Copyright is a good thing. The problem is when they put a computer in charge of deciding what's okay and what isn't. Rouga wasn't trying to steal the IP, he was making a comparison video. This video is free advertisement for every subject compared. Putting copyright strikes on something like this is stupid.
I think a lot of the horror aliens won't do well in the helldiver universe as they are most often predatory species being put in a war ready society.
Especially because have you seen what happens, it takes less than 24 hours to take back an entire planet. And also how we won the war against the Automatons very fast, yet they came back but you get what I mean.
Yeah, at first I was thinking alien would be tough to beat but then he brought up a point that they're like the terminids and I said: "In that case, just another Tuesday"
I also think the absolute paranoia of the government and its people make Super Earth extremely resistant to the first two factions. Nothing like disregard of human life! If nothing else, just napalm barrage the affected area and then brand the helldivers there as traitors and traitor barrage them with napalm. Necessary sacrifice for democracy folks!
Kaiju could be a problem for regular troops but if you add the destroyer into the mix I have to disagree with him about them being immune to stuff it throws down. Is it going to soak up a bunch of fire and a new one sent in to better combat the prevailing tactics? Absolutely. But I've seen the movie and played Helldivers and the Kaiju still bleed when hit with a big enough slab of metal so the humble precision strike is going to be your bread and butter.
Mimics I do think are a big threat due to time travel and the fact that Super Earth won't listen to affected Helldivers, thus putting them in a very vicious loop as they are executed for being traitors. Also, the scientists of Super Earth are surprisingly adaptable, so I'm going to say it depends on if they figure out the alpha thing. If they do, Super Earth simply issues weapons designed to permanently restrain Alphas instead of outright ending them, thus sidestepping the time travel trigger and potentially harvesting this time travel function for Super Earth's use and causing another Terminid situation of could end it but choose not to. More Helldivers would be lost trying to restrain rather than simply killing but it's all worth it for managed democracy!
@@Grape7676traitor ass pfp
@@minotaursgamezone But sSuper Earth is in it too
@@Grape7676excuses. I’m reporting you to my democracy officer
Some aliens think they can outsmart us. Maybe, but I’ve yet to meet one who can outsmart 500KG orbital strike
love the reference
Me when i encounter an alien thinkin they can outsmart us: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Team fortress 2 still kicking
You'll love the squids then
Average Helldiver: Haha 500kg go ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Me: Haha ⬆️⬇️➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬇️
My absolutely DERANGED Helldiver friend: *Evil laughter* ➡️➡️⬇️, ➡️➡️⬇️⬅️➡️⬆️, ⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️
Reminder:
Helldivers are monitored basically at all times after thawing by a Democracy Officer.
Xenomorphs: Any infected Diver would be ordered to self-terminate or be declared a traitor.
The Thing: The MOMENT the thing's shapeshifting or assimilating nature is discovered, any diver that's been in close contact with a suspected thing would be either quarantined, or just straight up disposed of.
Super-Earth was at war with an entire species in the first galactic war that could use mind-control... AND WON. I would stack the odds against anything that tries to take on the full might of Super-Earth.
that's pretty much it
If we have even the slightest suspicion about a xenomorph on board we strait up self destroy the S.E.S Super Destroyer and deploy a new one with a fresh defrosted crew
People can only think of these aliens in the context of the movies they came from where all kinds of convoluted bullshit happens to justify the aliens being nigh unstoppable.
Xenos are the worst of the bunch if you take the comics into account because they're literally omniscient and always know exactly what to do to win, the fact they're animals be damned; They'll fly a starship if they have to to win.
And if they can't win they have humans to do it for them for equally convoluted reasons like Wey-Yu
That is so metal, omg
Imperium of man
Apart from the Warhammer universe the only army I see squashing Super Earth are The Covenant. The SEAF is essentially a Spartan-less UNSC. And Spartans were the reason humanity won in Halo.
I like the dumb idea that if superearth somehow learned about the mimics time bullshit that they might start farming that resources like they do with the insects
Farming the mimic would be damn near impossible, because the creature that can turn back time could sense that the mimics are being used and it could just turn back time
@@tirefishEyo? Time travelling Helldivers!?!?! ❤❤❤❤❤
I think once they realise that the acidic blood is a way to gain he time resetting ability, they would probably try to get a helldiver covered in its blood to aid with the war.
@@Shattered3582Just like the simulations…wait, wrong universe. Lol
@@ls200076 ✨️TIMEDIVERS✨️
You also gotta take into account that when a helldivers is killed in combat they have reinforcements ready to drop.
I don't think that'll make much of a difference for ant of these encounters for better or worse. Xenomirphs and the thing'll keep playing it stealthy till they get caught, Kaijus will continously tear reinforcements apart till the planet is uninhabitable, and Mimics i'll just keep resetting till they've established larger numbers and more secure ground
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 So, what's their plan for the super destroyers in orbit? The ones that can canonically destroy a moon.
@@supremecaffeine2633 like a single super destroyer? or like, a whole pack of them
@@trustypotato9998 One. Each individual one.
@@supremecaffeine2633 holy hell
Hell divers are far stronger than normal people too. They can one hit a dog sized insect with an exoskeleton by just cracking it with a closed hand
It takes two hits, and they're either stock bashing or pistol whipping it, but still a highly impressive display of strength. It's my belief that the stims they take have something to do with their exceptional strength and stamina.
DEMOCRACY
It’s not a dog size, it’s tiger size imo
The Viper Commando's (the Peak Physique trait) has 50% more melee damage aswell.
@@t-e-a6752 Unlikely, before you even have any stims in the tutorial mission you can still do this stuff, and you specifically need a booster that puts experimental stuff in your stims to actually make them affect anything else, making you faster
“Helldivers aren’t trained” carries a full auto cannon that would otherwise be mounted to a mech throughout an entire battlefield
I'm starting to think that since there are always a war ready society that they train their whole lives. That's why their training is so short.
@@Rhino-Prime I imagine Helldivers training is the last part of their training because they are picked based on their aptitude scores during regular training, because they'd have no prior knowledge of how to load and reload their large arsenal of weapons otherwise. Also the missions are borderline suicidal, so it's smart (sorta) to have only the most devoted in their ranks, even if they're likely to die they can be assured they'd fight til they physically drop.
There's a blurb when you talk to the lady by the engineer that strategems are so expensive they are solely FOR Helldivers, so being taught to use them is specially made for that program.
Their training is still, otherwise, hilariously short lol SEAF forces not much better, which are 'volunteer' conscripts that train for a minimum 72 hours.
Also an interesting thing to think about is that a lot of Helldivers are on standby, but they were likely frozen in reserves for decades. Those missiles we see in base defense missions are actually Helldiver pods attached to the same rockets from the tutorial-- they're not ordnance like the mission says, they're the frozen reserves.
@@Whazzupie Yes, it does say it's only 72 hours.But what if the reason why this training is so short is likely because like I said earlier because they train their whole lives.They're literally given a firearm.I think on their sixteenth birthday
@@Rhino-Primethey can enlist in the military at 7, so they have been training for a substantial amount of time
@@Rhino-Primetheir regular lives are the training lol
Helldiver single handedly takes down 2 hulks and multiple squads of automatons:
Internet warrior:yeah, theyre barely trained.
Gameplay is different from lore.
they have basic SEAF training and basic SEAF training lets them destroy everything, problem internet warrior?
@@illuminatecentral That is Helldivers 1 lore. That doesn't apply to Helldivers 2.
@@voidtempering8700the lore says they were trained, gameplay says training was a 2 minutes tutorial😂😂😂
@@voidtempering8700Training for SEAF is decent, but Helldivers only get 30 minutes of training. We just have so many divers to throw at the enemy that training is too expensive.
In Pacific Rim, aliens created Kaiju so they could terraform earth. The Kaiju were sent through underwater portals. That's how they got to earth. It is shown in the first Pacific Rim movie that the Kaiju are sent through portals underwater. They were never on earth to begin with. The aliens could put portals anywhere and send their Kaiju those portals.
I think he's mixing up Kaiju from Pacific rim with ones from Godzillas world
@@demian_csomic_winters9484 that's even dumber because Godzilla Kaiju are either the result of nuclear testing or they're being sent by aliens just like the ones from Pacific Rim.
@@Spartan_803 wether dumber or not in nuclear option version of Godzilla he was there sleeping under the Ocean similar to what video dude said only difference is awakening methods one is pollution and other nuclear. Do you have better suggestions for less than enlightened people may learn?
I think that yhe automotons would just get help from their parents (the Cyborgs) and obliterate the kaiju regardless but eh
Yeah I can tell from the moment he starts talking about them that he has never seen pacific rim nor has he actually bothered research anything about them like it's literally explained how they came to earth in the first three minutes of the movie blud's just yapping
I think another thing for the Xenomorphs is that any managed democratic loving helldiver will not hesitate to "help" their patriotic brother if they were implanted with eggs.
Helldiver 1: Looks like I have to kill you.
Helldiver 2: No, tape a bomb to me and let me jump into their nest! My body for democracy!
The survival rate on the frontlines for an average helldiver would make sure they couldn’t even birth a xenomorph
I’d like to think our Super Earth Helldivers are so patriotic that any Xeno that emerges from them would be saluting Super Earth and ready for the dive
Divers are so 'shoot-on-sight' and expendable that no amount of eggs or facehuggers could surpass their spread of Democracy
"Wait wait wait! Shoot my chest first, just in case. Then you can shoot my head. For Democracy!"
Helldivers go hard and regardless of who you are they would be some scary mfers to try to fight against.
Someone from the internet telling you Helldivers aren't trained soldiers after looking at Helldivers 2 gameplay is such a someone from the internet thing to do
We literally had a major order where we made room for Helldiver Training facility’s. I believe most people don’t read
That is because they weren't. In Helldivers 2 they are cannon fodder pumped full of stimulants. Only in Helldiver 1 were they elite troops.
I mean, they have a 20% survival rate. The gameplay mechanics dont exactly correlate to lore.
@@voidtempering8700those that survive will surely be hardened more than any training
@@theorcamafia That is also true. They also set up training camps, so they are likely improving training as time goes on. The initial force was mainly because they were not as prepared as they could be.
@@voidtempering8700 ye the initial ones ofc and maybe a few vets of the first but currently they probably are extremely trained.
I remember in lore it took on 50 Helldivers to take a planet from HD1. They're probably a lot more capable than what we give credit for because to fact that as players we die ALOT.
50 survived, 50 didnt take the planet.
"a lot" is still usually less than 30 people for operations so important that they're about launching an ICBM (which the automatons would work very hard to make sure wouldn't happen)
@@PotatoBoy44 You realize 27 million Helldivers canonically died in 9 weeks during the Creek.
@@voidtempering8700 27 million divers for an enitre planet, but killed almost 14 times as much, including heavy bots. the average being only about 14 is probably because a lot of times they were overwhelmed and died before they could get a good killcount per diver
@@PotatoBoy44 14-1 is pretty low when you consider the Helldivers not only had air support, but through our strategies out the ass.
Xenomorphs do have one big advantage: they are stealthy, and good stow aways. I imagine, until Super Earth starts quarantines and detailed inspection of each ship, and detailed searching of planets, they will be a constant problem. Like rats, if rats killed people.
Your minimap automatically pins anything near you so it would pick up the Xenomorph
Can't hide in the shadows if everything is on fire.
Have you heard of the Black Death?
I agree but I think the thing has that advantage in a stronger amount because realistically if the thing was found anywhere else except Antarctica it would have like destroyed the human race
So its just if every terminid was a stalker
I feel bad for Xenomorphs, they usually fight and attack in numbers, and in claustrophobic areas where it would be harder for Heldivers
Out in the open, they get ripped appart way too easy.
RIP spookie bug bois....
If it's one of those situation where the xenomorph took over a planet like in the comics. Where that hand multiple queeen running around they could do better
@@samuraibear5102how? The helldivers will either A) Glass the planet or B) implode the planet with black liquid.
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Moreso if the Helldivers had to fight Xenos more on THEIR terms. In buildings, caves, etc. Then Helldivers would have less access to orbitals and be less likely to walk away scott free. Also I think Ruga has overestimate bile titan acid, and underplayed Xenos acid.
Bile titans havent been shown melting anything with their acid, just damaging/blinding Helldivers... Xeno acid burnt through starship grade metals with ease, and even the futuristic armour worn by Predators and Space Marines... pretty sure Helldiver armour is gonna get melted as well
I'm unsure if even in their home turf xenomorhps would get advantage cause helldivers got laser, plasma, flame and electric weapons. And while laser and plasma might be argued to wound xenomorhps making their blood a problem (although laser weaponry having infinite ammunition without reaching overheat), flame weaponry and high voltage weaponry completely bypass that. On top of that arc (electricity) weapons have a literal infinite ammo and arcs up to 4 targets on a single shot, so with something like arc Blitzer (whis is an infinite ammo shotgun that blasts a wide burst of high-voltage electricity that arcs between all units) or arc thrower (which deals enough damage that it drops bile titans in several shots) the xenomorhps would essentially get cooked as even with their speed the shot is semi tracking to the target so one helldiver could drop 4 xenomorhps with one shot and then proceed to maw down their entire nest dropping xenomorhps like flies with his comrades and at the end pull out the arc thrower or flamethrower literally frying xenomorhps queen in seconds...
@@whywright2663
Interesting hypothesis. Ill have to check on some of these claims like the laser/plasma weapons having no ammo limit and also no overheating, cos that sounds like an OP af weapon. Does it have any drawbacks? Like very light damage or something? Also, while your arc weapon claims sound good, not sure how they would effect Xenos, and if 4 at a time with an arc is really gonna slow down a possible swarm of xenos, or even a single one stealthing around. They have been shown taking gunfire, and puncturing metal with tails. A queen is also gonna just sit around and let herself be fried, on more than one occation, in the movies, the Queen has been show walking around in, and escaping fire. In Alien Isolation, a regular drone is onky barely slowed down by flamethrowers as well, meaning you wont be able to just cook them up.
With Helldivers traveling in teams of three, and arc weapons bouncing between up to 4 targets, thats still only 12 xenos at a time that they can focus on at once, and again, not sure how electricity weapons effect Xenos, so it will be interesting at least.
You're missing one thing with the Mimics that's important: If you kill the queen, it's dead for good. No time resets at all when the queen dies. Remember, they killed it in Edge of Tomorrow 'in the future' and then went back to the start of the day and the queen was dead. So, if the Helldivers can stop the queen from landing on the planet, say by shooting down asteroids above a certain size as a matter of planetary defense, the invasion is stopped before it begins. There's also that if the attack Super Earth launches against it is powerful enough to reach and kill the queen, the Mimic invasion is dead.
They were slowly able to kill it due to Cage getting thousands of chances to reach it via the time bullshit and a device that allowed him to mind fuck the omega to find it’s location something Super Earth doesn’t have.
@@rougarabid Dammit, you made me go and do research, my brother in Christ. This'll be a bit long of a post. Now that I've looked things up, I think you're overestimating the Mimic's abilities and underestimating the capabilities of Super Earth to counter the Mimics.
The Mimics can't target and destroy the Super Destroyers, nor can they really shut down Eagles from making attack runs. This means the Helldivers have a distinct firepower advantage over the Mimics. They can't even set up ambushes for the arriving Helldivers because the Super Destroyers can bombard the area the pods are landing in to wipe out anything there.
The war in EOT is also a much different beast than the war fought between Super Earth and her enemies. In EOT, the war had lasted 5 years and the Mimic only took over Europe. Humanity, going on current military numbers, would have lost about 30 million soldiers of its total military force if it was fighting a war and steadily driven back, including their equipment. That's enough to exhaust most of our modern nations. Even so, the omega felt the need to trick the humans into committing the bulk of their remaining reserve forces in an attack so it could kill them off. That indicates the omega felt there was still a very real chance that the humans could defeat it and keep their planet, otherwise why take the risk of having happen exactly what happened in the movie? My bet is that the omega could only create a drones at a reasonable rate, nowhere near rapid. I'd estimate there were probably somewhere around ten to fifteen million drones on Earth during the movie, with that alpha in the movie being either the only one or one of two or three and being present only at very important battles. Anything more and they'd be overwhelming humanity easily at every stop and there wouldn't be a front line.
In Helldivers, for contrast, in the 9 weeks that Malevelon Creek was fought over, 27 million Helldivers died and 376,36 million Automatons were destroyed. Super Earth, the Automatons, and the Terminids are able to throw so many bodies into a battle with the Mimics that they simply cannot keep up in a war of attrition, no matter how many time loops the Mimics do. Being able to loop as much as you like doesn't turn something with a 0% chance of victory into a victory.
The individual omegas can extend out the campaigns on each planet they're on using their time bullshit, but they simply will lose wars of attrition on each world until Super Earth realizes that if they kill the omega, they kill the infestation. At that point each planet's battle turns into a pitched defense of the omega in one or two battles, allowing Super Earth to focus as many Helldivers on that one battle in that one day as needed to win.
@@RedneckRaptureAnd it has been stated within the lore in helldivers that each and every super destroyer could blow up a small moon. And Super-earth has a few thousand of these in orbit in each frontline planet. This is of course not including the fact that super earth does have other spaceship classes that are much more powerful than the super destroyers (like how will they fight the space ships of automatons and illuminate without dedicated space combat ships). Super Earth can just glass the planet if they wanted to, they don't because the planets have strategic value.
they also have to FIRST get to super earth.
@@rougarabidto be fair the hand there were very unprepared. The exo suit sweet not all that helpful and the aliens were still in need of the time travel to progress the war. I have no doubt the Helldivers would easily find the queen. And the destroyers have enough fire power to kill it with little effort from orbit
Helldiver's are most definitely trained, I completely agree. Try reloading a heavy machine gun CALMLY and QUICKLY while under heavy mortar fire, and watching one of your guys get misted. These dudes are trained for sure
There training is relativley minimum compared to what they got in Helldivers 1. They are basically baseline troops who only got a few weeks of training at max.
@@voidtempering8700 enlistment in the seaf is 14 or 1^6 jears I think, and you need to be seaf trained to become a helldiver, you become a helldiver around 18 jears, so 2 jears of training in the worst scenario.
@@voidtempering8700 do you remember that the helldivers were already trained before the war and put on cryogenic sleep to save them if the super earth got on another war?
@@legendaerycraft2226 Enlistment in the SEAF was Helldivers 1, not Helldivers 2. Most of the people who joined the Helldivers in Helldivers 2 were originally civilians.
@@Gab12345BR There were an additional billion volunteers at minimum, many were not the original Helldivers.
Actually, the Kaiju from Pacific Rim are from a parallel reality that opens in the Mariana Trench, and the Kaiju are biologically engineered weapons by an alien race who can breed naturally as one was pregnant in the first movie. So Pacific Rim Kaiju can just pop up from interdimensional reality gateways and start destroying infrastructure.
Oh shit you’re right. Forgot about the pregnant one.
@@rougarabid There's also the part where the first Kaiju sustained 2 weeks of constant bombardment from modern weapons, so they are extremely durable to anything but possibly missiles and energy weapons or Jeager melee weapons.
@@rougarabidappearently there's even whole ass packs of them living in Australia with growing babies if you take that netflix pacific cartoon as into account.
@@rougarabidand we haven't seen the helldivers have any weapons which are able to destroy planets aside from that black hole which was only because they were lucky so realistically they can't mass-produce it it's a one-time use.. and the helldivers aren't exactly fully armored.
@@Automaton237We CAN mass produce dark fluid. Its just risky, and unstable, as seen when one of the production fluids had an accident that created a blackhole. Its only used as a last choice, as seen on meridia, which is our only example of a super colony to date.
13:52 if a helldiver can melee a charger to death, xenomorphs don't stand a chance
The helldiver would proceed to die from the acid blood
@@Magnicentrabbit he addresses that
Character 1: Didn't we see a Facehugger melt through a helmet in the first movie? I'm not saying this would change anything, and I'm sure the helmet in Helldiver is stronger than normal space helmets, but I just wish to point that out.
Character 2: Sounds about right.
Character 3: they can make blackholes?
Character 4: Imagine a Helldiver getting the time reset ability.
i thought the same about the face huggers and the helmets, but im pretty sure that in the original thing it is seen making a spaceship underneath the shack that they put the doctor in when they think he is a thing
I addressed this in the video. Helldivers armor defends against acid offten and many armor sets specifically specialize in repelling caustic and acid damage. They wouldn’t melt through them in the same way.
@@rougarabid I assumed that was the case, yeah
the blackhole thing was a one time thing, cuz they used an unknown substance called dark fluid they got from the last galactic war and they used all there supply of that dark fluid making that blackhole, so even if they ever wanted to make a new one, they cant
the armor helldivers have can temporarily defend against literal napalm. i don’t think the face huggers are getting through that
19:50 worse comes to worst, the planet gets the Meridia treatment
Survival video 24 of typing out the words “could these fictional monster hunters survive Monster Hunter”
Also let’s fuckin go buff divers
Edit: just thought of this and I’m not sure if anyone else said this yet, but the necromorphs from Dead Space would be interesting to see. Might be hard to do because we don’t exactly understand the extent of power they have (ex. The Brother Moons or whatever they are called)
Id love to see hack n' slash characters vs Monster Hunter. Lu Bu for example, I think he'd smash most monsters
It for sure doesn’t just have to be “monster hunters”, I just think that if he was up for it Monster Hunter has sooo much potential for survival challenges. Hell it could even be shit like “could the hunters guild from Monster Hunter survive *insert whatever horrible thing here*”
Necromorphs have mind hacks and almost total immortality, that's pretty much it. Flames (not actually sure if flames kill them totally) and corrosive chemicals are pretty much the only thing able to actually 100% wound them due to them destroying cells. The Marker needs biomass, living or dead, to make necromorphs. You have to pretty much completely deconstruct the cells into base atoms to kill a necromorph for good.
This is actually such a great idea I hope he sees this comment.
Chances are that he already has seen it or has monster hunter somewhere in his big ass list but wont get to it for a w h i l e since I'm assuming he doesn't know much about it. But I could be totally wrong
Xenomorphs Planet: *Exist*
Helldivers: "Look At This Glorious Sight, All Of These Ships Hovering Above This God-Forsaken Rock, Waiting To Shoot Down Helldivers To Take This Planet For Our Own" ☄️
P.s. The automatons might actually end up using Xenomorphs in their invasions as a bioweapon. Just train a queen to realize "these guys aren't hostile if I leave them alone, and are useless to me." Xenomorphs, especially the queens, are very smart.
On hand every story in comics or novels or even the movies of trying to "train" a xenomorph almost always goes wrong. Of course it should be different for autonomatons as they often leave synthetics alone of they don't interfere, sooo maybe?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 just figure, the biggest thing will be avoiding being targeted as a potential food source and threat. Which might be just sacrificing automata until they learn it.
The xenomorphs are smart.
Transporting the eggs might be a problem, but if nothing else, maybe just having some live humans on the ships to get xenomorphs inside, then taking off. If the queen doesn’t figure it out herself.
The Automatons don’t need the Xenomorphs. They are a very advanced machine species that is capable of interstellar travel, developing orbital railcanons that shoot down spaceships, and Star Wars levels of super weapons (At-At Walkers). The Xenomorphs are not worth the hassle of keeping alive for Automatons.
@@crackededge9351 fair enough.
@@crackededge9351Nope. Its a free bio weapon. You can stop an infestation but not before 5000 people died. All you have to do is drop 1 then it asexally reproduces through egg morphing and caused an infestation. One automiton cant do that. You create a problem that doesnt cost you much to create compared to what the enemy spends to keep the problem non lethal.
The only reason The Thing was really able to be defeated was because they were in the middle of the Antarctic completely separated from most biological life and even then everyone still died. If The Thing starts out on a heavily populated planet or just any area with large amounts of biological life (a Terminid controlled planet would be catastrophic) it will spread like wildfire. Couple that with its ability to assimilate the knowledge and personalities of those it comes into contact with and things will snowball completely out of control in no time and doom the entire galaxy to the point where the Automatons may be our only hope and even then its not guaranteed since by that point The Thing would be able to combat the Automatons using the knowledge and weaponry of Super Earth.
Furthermore, in the scenario of total loss of control, it would be the robots vs. the entire galaxy without any distraction that prevents concentrating all military power on a single objective.
hear me out, i think the autos would win, we defeated them but they still managed to come back from out of the galaxy
Pretty sure the creators said that the thing needs a good portion of contact for assimilation. A few cells ain’t doing much to assimilate.
If the Thing becomes way too big to manage, Super Earth might manually detonate the planet to contain the damn thing or create another black hole
Black hole beyotch
The "Thing" gains all the knowledge of every being it has assimilated, as shown by the Blair Thing building a spaceship out of random shit from a 1980's antarctic base... it is 1000% getting off that planet and spreading very easily.
Agreed. It doesn't just go ham on people; It can also make a perfect copy of people it assimilates, so one helldiver getting could get infected and no one would know. It could go as far as infecting people quietly until it has it's own massive army of helldivers that can transform and do all sorts of crazy stuff on top of having guns.
i dont think terminids are capable of space travel on their own. the superearth people put them on planets to make it look like they’re a threat so they have an excuse to harvest their E-710 (oil). if helldivers drop down and see that things are super fucked up and there is no E-710, they’ll just turn it into a black hole like they did meridia
I said it gets the knowledge. I said I wasn’t sure if it got the memories but likely would.
Destroyers exist in the atmosphere of every planet in the galaxy and an individual ship is stated to have the fire power to lay waste to a small moon. Once it’s discovered that the Thing is on the planet it will be quarantined and anything attempting to leave the planet will be shot down. So no it’s unlikely it’s leaving.
I dont think helldivers are trained for any piloting, but obviously if the thing can just assimilate enough people it'll become unstoppable via knowledge steal (until they try to not get nuked as soon as they leave)
Yes, and no. 🤔
It's very plausible at least one it's slipping, becoming the cockroach of the galaxy.
Not all citizens or SEAF troops in the Helldivers world have the knowledge to build a spacecraft (fortunately).
Granted a Thing gets more intelligent the more big it becomes, small forms are very instinctive and animal-like, it's possible it could build one depending on who it's absorbs.
Based on what we know, it plausible the Thing would likely want to move to a more populated area of the planet to spread further but also flying to a spacecraft isn't out of the picture.
Yes, it cand deceive and ambush, but by using the fact that the Thing only years for *self-preservation and spreading itself* , you can easily deduce it's next steps by keeping these two factors in mind.
But in my opinion, due to how violently social and numerous we humans are, we could easily detect one before it's too late.
It happened to the Norwegian outpost and the Outpost 31 with relative ease, just send a message to a Super Destroyer, quarantine the area and done!
I love the phrasing of the title because this really is more a question of whether the aliens could survive the helldivers than if the helldivers can survive the aliens, which is really fucking funny.
That’s because Super Earth is an absolutely busted sci fi faction. Instantaneous space travel, hundreds of billions of military personnel, super weapons capable of destroying planets, and don’t forget that in the first game, SE went from a radioactive wasteland to winning a three front war.
Would These Invaders
(Starcraft) Zerg
(Halo) Banished
(Battlestar Galactica) Cylon
(XCOM) Aliens
(Prey) Typhon
Survive Helldivers
What other alien invaders should be on this list
Typhon is a solar threat with ease. So yes, I'm sure they'd destroy everything.
Replying to boost your comment.
Not sure how this one would play out, but the Necromoprhs 100% could fit this
(Destroy All Humans) LItTlE GrEeN mEn!!!
@@Wisdombird Thats also a solar level threat. I don't know how the terminids would do, but I'm assuming the automatons would stand the best chance against them, other than going mad every so often.
Don’t be ashamed of spamming Xenomorphs. They are so iconic it’s like talking about sci-fi and not mentioning Star Wars. This is that but for aliens.
The Kaiju come from another dimension, the rift is opened from another dimension completely underwater.
The Kaiju themselves are not the aliens, their the weapons the aliens send to kill off the humans. And what makes them so freaking dangerous is that because that portal is open they can just keep sending more and more through it at whatever pace they’d like.
In the movie they managed to send a Jaeger through the rift and blew a nuclear bomb on the other side, stopping their advance for decades.
I don’t think that’s true. Not the being sent from the breach thing them being able to send as many as they like. It makes no sense for them to only send 1 at a time for decade with a max of 3 if they could just swarm the whole planet with Kaiju.
Having said that it doesn’t make a difference the issues the Kaiju have with needing higher CO2 levels to survive will still be an issue.
@@rougarabid you’re right about the CO2 thing, as polluted as the blood of the Kaiju is the creators that made them wouldn’t really try it as that would be too much work for it to be worth it.
but in the movie it was an actual plot point that the rift was getting bigger and the Kaiju were coming through at a faster rate. At first it was like once a month, but over the course of a few years bigger ones kept coming through, and they started coming through faster than before. By the events of the movie they were able to send 2 extra big Kaiju through the rift, and not an hour after that 3 more really big ones.
However the war torn worlds will be a serious F’ing problem as there is smoke in the air and lead in the ground on those worlds… in fact the war itself might actually be creating the conditions on these planets for the precursors to send the Kaiju through
@@MisterRombus- This is super well said. i was just thinking that too, the Rift was originally unable to send more than 1 kaiju every few months, but as time went on bigger and badder ones were able to go through (almost like the aliens where also advancing their own technology along the way) by the time of the dreaded second movie, the aliens were able to somehow take over a human mind and open a rift big enough for 2-3 super kaijus at once, so who knows what the helldivers would do then
@edima the kaiju were spaced out so much only to test exactly how much force was needed to wipe the planet for terraforming. The aliens were basically sending scouts to test the waters, but got nuked for taking their time.
@@rougarabid Don't ask me why but the aliens make kaiju by the hundreds then only send the best of the best out after they battle their siblings to the death. Yes its dumb
In defense of the Thing, there weren’t that many places to hide on a research base in Antarctica, it actually took about 2-3 days till they found out, and by then 3-4 of the original 12 were assimilated.
Just imagine, a squad of four Helldivers are sent down a terminid world and kick ass. One is stabbed by a strange terminid, but they manage to kill it as they stim their fellow Helldiver. They return to their destroyer to celebrate their victory when their once friend lurks among them as the Thing. If they find out, they’ll crash that ship into the planet, like the original movie. If not, they may hop from Helldiver to Helldiver to get to super earth.
@@keaganhoman7759 super earth would just literally nuke planets from orbit and d estroy infected super destroyers. i dont think it has much of a chance against insane fanatics willing to do anything for super earth
@@keaganhoman7759 I think the issue is that these were random ass researchers managing to stop and defeat the Thing *WITHOUT* access to the arsenal of Helldivers. Hell, potentially there's a real scenario where a fellow Helldiver just tries to heal his ally, and his ally proceeds to die from a stroke because the Thing is incompatible with said stim, since it's a separate alien lifeform.
If the Thing gets on a civilian planet with flora and fauna, it will take over MUCH faster than you think. The only reason it didn't immediately take over Earth in it's own movie is because it's in a frozen tundra and doesn't have access to biomass, if it dropped in a forest the entire planet would be fucked. Also, if it assimilates even one person who can fly a spaceship, it WILL get off planet because it has all of their memories and would know that Super Earth will destroy it eventually if it doesn't spread out.
I also believe it would be much more stealthy than it was in the movie. In the movie, it was starving for who knows how long before it came into contact with people so it would have immediately attacked. After it had assimilated one person and knew how isolated they were from their memories it would really have no reason to hide anymore, because it knew help wasn't coming. If it both had ready access to food in a temperate area and knew that Super Earth would just glass it if it got too freaky, it would absolutely lie low. It might even get a part of it onto Super Earth before anyone knew what was happening, and we don't know what the defenses of Super Earth actually look like. If it hasn't been invaded in hundreds of years then it's quite likely that all of it's defenses are focused outward and it won't be able to respond too quickly on the ground, which would give the Thing enough time to spread and become a real issue.
Thats what I’m saying. Anyone who’s actually seen The Thing knows that the Helldivers wouldn’t stand a chance. The Thing is an extinction level threat. People think the terminid population is bad, the thing is infinitely worse. Quite literally. We are talking about a species that not only can spread rapidly and indefinitely, but can also take on the form of anything it’s came in contact with, with 100% precision and has the knowledge of everything it’s ever assimilated.
@@lejenddairy I mean, it's not 100% that The Thing would get to Super Earth. If it is found out before then, the Helldivers have a fairly high chance of black hole-ing it into oblivion. They cannonically CAN just delete entire planets, after all.
If it DOES get onto Super Earth, though, it will immediately destroy the entire propaganda pipeline that is the backbone of the government. If the populace can't trust each other not to be compromised then everything would fall apart like a large-scale version of what we saw in the movie, and I don't think ANY fictional government could hide The Thing from their people if it really got rolling.
The problem is that detecting The Thing once you already know it exists is very easy. The Antarctica base only had 10 people and they still found a way to pinpoint it. I imagine a ultra-authoritarian, propaganda based government would have no problem mandating regular blood tests from anyone who is using their.. air space, but in space? Space space? If a ship refuses the check it gets deleted, no questions asked, and people celebrate it as a victory even if it was someone who just had a faulty comms module.
I'd say The Thing almost always wins if it gets to Super Earth before it's found, probably 25%-ish win rate if it spreads to multiple planets but not Super Earth before it's found, and guaranteed loss if it is caught on a single planet.
The thing under the disguise of civilians will just infiltrate the Superearth, after taking over distant colonies. It will have ships weapons and better tech than Superearth.
That's why the biggest threat to the Thing isn't the Helldivers, but the Ministry of Unity and all the other extensive ministries that monitor the civilians for any 'deviancy'. It'll be a test to see just how good the stealth of the Thing really can be
@@tan-risanoon Yes, I can see a mandatory blood test and quarantine to any person arriving on SuperEarth.
My BIG contest against the xenomorph argument is that the helldivers only get sent in BEHIND enemy lines, meaning just like the automatons, the xenos get to potentially farm seaf platoons before the helldivers get to the fight. And despite certain horde shooters, its proven that one decent xeno warrior can wipe out a whole team of people metal gear style
24:57 I'm pretty sure in the first Pacific rim movie it goes over how the Kaiju are essentially being teleported from another planet/ universe/ dimension and are just bio titans created with earth fauna DNA to wipe out humanity now that human have terraformed the planet
But they are being teleported through a "rift" by their creators who you see right before the bomb goes off at the end of the trench fight
"Because they wouldn't stand a chance."
Bet. Let me call John Helldiver and we'll see how long you believe that.
Alright, one more thing.
The Kaiju aren't underground, they have a portal in the ocean, but they live in a different universe.
Edit: The Kaiju themselves are also just a manufacturered monster made by a smaller, highly advanced race.
Im afraid your assessment of the Thing is inaccurate.
1. The Things retain the memory of their victims. How else can they mimic their hosts so perfectly.
2. They. Can. Build. Their. Own. Ships. Blair-Thing was building one.
3. Plate armor doesn't cover every part of the Helldiver. There is gaps were we see a body glove. The Thing only needs to stab/scratch/bite these places, and the diver is already dead.
I feel like the thing wouldn’t immediately be able to build a spaceship and escape but probably after taking over something like a major population center. Also even if the helldivers bomb the planet to death, probably one or more ships containing the Thing would escape the planet (likely gaining the info about the bugs) and heading over to that system and spreading like wildfire
@enclavesoldier6320 I hardly call two different artic expeditions a major population center, and Blair thing was already making a ship.
Why does he keep saying the thing is from freddy got fingered?? Can someone explain?
@BurtEatsTape i wish I could tell you, but i don't
Since I'm a massive alien fan, I feel the need to inform some people of their destructive capabilities.
Xenomorph variation is much more then strength and size. For example, the xenos in fireteam elite have the ability to spit acid, or explode in a giant burst of acid on command. There are also giant preatorians, warriors, and a lot more aliens that are far more powerful then the ones seen in any movie.
Helmet or not, facehuggers will get you. The prime example of this is in Alien. When Kane descends into the egg room on the derelict, the facehugger easily melts through his space helmet with ease.
If the acid can eat through multiple hulls of a ship, im sure it can eat through helldiver armor. The acid that the bugs have is most likely far less potent.
They could most likely easily pluck helldivers one by one. Since they can perfectly blend into darkness as you said, they could easily sneak up without making a sound and take one of them away. Once you see them, its already too late. The tails are extremely sharp and muscular, allowing them to lift up humans with ease extremely quickly.
In any sense, I need a life.
The basic xenomorph is basically like a stalker, if the stalker was a bit smarter, could insta kill you and you die if you kill it. helldivers already kinda have issues dealing with stalkers, now imagine the entire planet is stalkers, imagine xenomorph upgraded stalkers, imagine if bile titans acted like stalkers.
I mean, xenos aren’t invisible and a heavy armoured diver can survive not only being hit by a stalker but being sent flying by it into a rock with the force of a car crash, sans shield pack. I can’t say I have too much faith in the xeno with the performance I generally see from them, though I’d be quite afraid of their tail, more so than the blood funny enough
@Shadow-sword yeah they're not actually invisible, but decent stealth is often better than just invisibility, yeah a diver can survive an encounter with a stalker but it's generally a more difficult encounter, and now the thing isn't going to try and fling you into a rock (but if it did it might hit harder) it's just going to immediately stab you in the head. The shield actually really would be a big help, but the xenomorphs are smart, and would figure out to break the shield first. I think if they're close enough that the tail is scaring you, then they're close enough for a single drop of blood to splatter on to you and depending where, it's just over.
@@someoneindeed eh, with how long the heavy armour can withstand the fire hose of acid from the titan (barely a moment, but long enough) I just truly can’t find the xeno all that intimidating in a stand up fight, they can be as smart as they want one mistake and it’s dead, not helped by divers now having melee weapons strong enough to beat chargers to death with in a face to face fight, it may not even get more that the one chance at a strike so if that hit is eaten by a shield that’s game over
@Shadow-sword but it doesn't really matter if the bile titan shoots a fire hose of acid if it's just a weaker acid, if one drop of the xeno acid can melt through you, it's more dangerous. Sure somehow, though unlikely, a xeno does make a mistake and you've somehow managed to not get a drop of blood in any vitals areas, congrats, now you have to fight the next 100 xenos, remember we are not actually talking about one xeno but a planet full. Also forget using a melee weapon, the xeno is faster and stronger than you to a point it can dodge bullets, you're not going to be able to hit it with the stick let alone beat it in the fight, even if you are somehow stunning this xeno you're just gonna get stabbed by the one behind you.
@ one can be beaten with a glorified space fork lift, for all their speed and intelligence it all falls off when it matters. And They don’t have their usual advantage of claustrophobic space ship interiors to fight and cower in, this is pitch battles on the surface of a planet often in broad daylight to prevent a nuke being direct injected into their nest, and Heldivers have been fighting a species that sprays acid constantly and explodes violently with acid for hundreds of years in far greater numbers, pretty sure there standard equipment is to some degree made with that in mind.
They're not trained, they just grew up in Space America on steroids. 😂
You should make a video where you have a bunch of rougelike characters try to escape Hades
2:34 there’s a loading screen tip that shows you when you’re loading into the game that says you are super “earths elite don’t you forget that” so yeah the hell divers are the elite soldiers even the ones that only get two minutes of training😂
To be fair, the Viper commandos who are less armored are also basically close quarters specialists, so it actually wouldn't be surprising for them to get the Alpha blood. They use knives, carbines (shorter ranged assault rifles), and sawed off shotguns if we go by their warbond offerings. Also there are the Helldiver scout/light armors which are way weaker and seem to have a lot of cloth parts that the acid blood could possibly get through.
Across dozens of planets and millions and millions of Helldivers, I think it's more likely than you suggested. As for who would actually win in the long run, I don't know enough about the Mimics.
There is canonical lore of super earth wiping away ANY new sentient alien life, showing they are not taking any risks with new alien foes
Something I want to correct. Super Earth has not been fighting aliens for hundred of years. As far as I am aware, Super Earth has fought in only two galactic wars, the first being the war against the cyborgs (there is strong evidence the Automatons were created by the cyborgs), The Bugs (now called the Terminids), and the Illuminate. The war may start again and again after every time we win or lose in the first but that's not actually cannon. After Super Earth won the first war, there was 100 years of peace with Super Earth entering a 'Golden Age' with no major conflict against any other species. The second Galactic war started when the Automatons invaded on the west side of the galactic map and the Terminids broke out of containment on their Homeworld and have begun to spread once again. Super Earth hasn't been fighting aliens for hundred of years but that doesn't mean they aren't ready.
Terminids don’t have a home world. They are farmed on multiple planets and are often sent to planets to be harvested for oil
Yes, Super Earth fought the First Galactic War for 30-40 years. Also incorrect, Automatons did not exist before the Cyborgs did, if they did, we wouldn't be fighting Automatons in HD2. What did happen more than likely is that there were Cyborgs that fled outside the system and modified themselves to only require a brain to operate their bodies. Terminids don't have a homeworld, they only broke out of containment on planets and rapidly bred for the express purpose of making E-710, which accelerated their aggression with the rapid breeding.
"Building a giant Automaton on par with the Kaiju" isn't as far-fetched of an idea as you might think! Back in Helldivers 1, the Cyborgs literally had a boss fight against an actual mecha called the "Siege Mech". When it comes to the idea of boss fights in HD2, everyone talks about the Hive Lord skeletons and they're cool and all, but they all seem to forget that the Cyborgs had AN ACTUAL GIANT BADASS MOTHERFUCKIN' MECHA. That's the reason I'm excited to hopefully see boss fights in the future! The Great Eye was really cool, too. The aura of mystery around them made them seem almost Lovecraftian to me when I was younger, so I can't forget about that guy! :D
"Time bullshit is fucking bullshit" Wish words were said today
You don't gain Mimic time reset powers if you're covered in the blood of an alpha. That alone is not enough. You have to be covered in the blood of an alpha (maybe have it go into your mouth), at the exact same time that you are killed. That's why it's so rare for it to happen.
Let's face it, with the average lifespan of a helldiver being that of a hamster owned by a toddler its absolutely a fair possibility 😂😂😂
Alright, three things;
1) The Thing doesn't randomly attack people unless it's cover is blown or it can get someone alone.
2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy. Yes, it is a totally different organizem, but the cells will stay incognito baring very specific situations.
3) It's not a hive mind. Cells can only communicate while physically connected. That's why the blood test works at all.
1) It reveals itself at the start of the film be turning into a mutant dog creature for basically no reason.
2) This is worded weirdly. Sounds like you started defending 1 point but then just repeated your first point again.
3) That doesn’t make sense. The blood test is done separate from the host so bringing it up doesn’t prove your claim. Not saying you’re wrong but your argument doesn’t prove it.
@@rougarabid
1) In a secluded location, around animals that's cannot communicate it's secret. If clarke hadn't shown up when he did, The Thing might have been able to assimilate all the dogs and been back in disguise without anyone ever finding out.
2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy, so if the bugs make the oil blood, or if the oil blood has oil blood cells, then a bug Thing makes the oil blood.
3) In my mind, a hive mind means psychic communication, and the blood test shows that smaller Thing colonies can't be controlled by larger, and smarter Thing colonies. A Thing colony's intelligence is directly related to it's mass. A blood sample sized Thing is about as smart as a lizard.
@Lookalikealagaler the thing kind of does have a hivemind, just in the way that the thing has to infect by assimilation so new things will know what's going on automatically. But the cells will still instinctively react to pain despite instructions. The blood test works because it can't stop the blood from reacting.
As far as john carpenters the thing goes i disagree on 2 things ( no pun intended) 1. The whole thing about fire, yes we see in the movie that its the best way to handle it is with fire but there was a scene where talked about in the helicopter that the burnt remains of the split face- thing from the Norwegian camp still having cellular activity , so atleast for me it makes me wonder whats the full limits of Resilience
2. The things is most DEFINITELY STRONG, though it wasn't metal ,palmer-thing went straight through a wall while on fire and then also the Blair-thing towards the very end of the movie (though it was off camera) physically removed the entire generator that was powering the camp to cause a black out
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☝🏿 proof backing up my last statement. Lastly lets keep in mind we saw the blood of a assimilated crew member scarry off during the blood test scene, so even tho we haven't seen it its not far fetched that the thing could spray its blood or any fluids like the dog-thing did in the kennels, getting through armor making contact with skin , all it takes is one cell ( all feed back is welcomed, lets talk about it)
2:53 I’ve been saying this for a while but we NEED a Stratham that has a ship with like 10-15 little foot solders walk out so they can act like extra firepower and also distract the enemy’s while you advance or retreat
This is being prototyped in the files, whether they actually finish it or not is yet to see, but the concept is, or has been tested.
SEAF Shock Squad would actually be dope, especially if you could choose your reinforcements loadouts and give them commands once they drop. Imagine you could tell them to hop in a mech or scout Strider or make them pick up extra support weapons you call in.
I imagine the potential weapons they could use would be limited to the base Liberator, Punisher, Diligence, Breaker, Scythe, and Defender, but you could use samples or requisition slips to give them better gear that you have unlocked (withdrawn each time you use the stratagem). That would also give mid level players with max Slips and top level players with max samples something to use them on.
12:22 Kane was wearing a helmet in the first alien movie, the facehugger used its acid to melt through. Helmet or no helmet, its still hugging that face.
I explain this in the video.
I think the mimics would take so long to win that a helldiver will inevitably get the time power.
Good point... it's a low chance, but it is a chance
Or Helldivers could just fucking blow up the whole planets of mimic, like we know they don't have any means of space travel
I like to think the tutorial is just a quick recap of what they have learned throughout their training
The way the helldivers made the planet a black hole is the helldivers would land and inject dark matter into the planet until it collapsed into a black hole so they have to be on the planet
"Helldivers are hardly trained."
*My dude reloading a light machine in gun in midair in under e seconds while jetpacking over an exploding horde of insects.*
*Xenomorph"s showup*
Helldivers: light work
28:35 ok so the Kaiju themselves don't do the Traveling, it's their alien creators the precursors that created the portal in the ocean the Kaiju emerge from. Theoretically I guess they"d be able to make a portal onto any planet in a dimension they'd like, at least in this scenario. I guess the bigger question though is if the Precursors would care to take over other planets once they have one, they may not have the resources or motivation for Galactic conquest. That being said any particular planet they want should be a cake walk to get with how durable even the less powerful Kaiju are, and How precursors with generically modify the next set Kaiju to counter the planets defenses as they learn more of their weaknesses. Of course they have no true counter to the planet getting destroyed, BUT since the kaiju portals onto open for small periods of time in secluded places, and only allow things with kaiju dna to pass through, it means the Precusors in their own dimension will always be safe to make more kaiju on a different world. Given the pacific rim humans only learned how to use the portal with drift technology the Super earths government might never figure out how to exploit that weakness
4:49 “And as you can clearly see, they do this crap with heels.”
12:23 Face huggers can in fact go through helmets, it happened in the first movie.
I explain this in the video. They can’t get through THESE helmets due to them being resistant to caustic attacks.
@@rougarabid righ
@@rougarabidI would argue youre underestimating xenomorph blood acidity. Sure, bile is acidic, but its not extremely acidic. I think the very fact a helldiver, even in just medium armour where a lot of area seems covered by simple fabric, can survive being covered in bile implies that it does not eat through human flesh or metal for that matter the same way xenomorph acid does. Xenomorph acid, even relatively small quantities, are shown eating through quite a bit. Maybe the armour protecting from caustic attacks would overcome xeno acid, I belive its 100% resistant? But normal armour? Id argue xeno blood goes through standard armour. On the other hand though? As soon as super earth discovers this (soon)? All warcrime enthusiasts would be sent to the xeno front and their equipment along with.
Saw this on my FYP and now I’m subscribed. Keep making cool shit man
The thing intrinsically knows how to build spaceships out of scrap parts it was doing that in the movie. It could keave a world in a matter of days.
False. The original Thing film estimates it would take The Thing 3 years to fully assimilate Earth and this was an Earth with tech from the 1980’s not 2200’s like Helldivers.
@@rougarabid
Typo. I meant to say "leave" a world. It nearly builds a flying saucer out of primitive 1980s human tech lying around on an arctic base, almost finishing it within the movie's timeframe. That is to say, it's probably very capable of moving to other planets on its own.
@@enfisu586 Like he said, it would take it 3 years to take over Earth, the moment anyone uninfected catches a sincere fucking whiff that some bullshit is afoot, especially considering a biological signature like that, and if they figure out how it works, hello Meridian!
Alright. I'm subbing. Thought out takes + interesting premise
I would LOVE to see a Disgaea character in one of these, its a super fun series that just oozes charm and hyper-powerful attacks
Or see if various RPG characters would survive the Disgaea universe
@@qkomodo9098 that would be a hell of a challenge
The thing when my helldiver drops in with three different flamethrowers:
Kaiju aren’t bred, they are cloned. Have you never seen the movie?!? The precursers clone them and send them through a rift at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to invade and blow up a volcano in order to finish terraforming the planet. The planet wasn’t fully polluted yet so the Kaiju were sent to finish the job early so the precursers could move in.
There’s literally a pregnant Kaiju in the film. Have YOU seen the movie?
@@rougarabid oh yeah, forgot about that… Waitaminute how does that make sense? They are all clones, and the clones can have kids?!? Ok, I understand why I missed that, that kinda just makes no sense, also whose the f**king dad in that case lol? Monkey boi!?!?
@@rougarabid yeah but what you said about the kaijus look much more stupid, because in the video it really looks like you didn't pay attention during the movie, but you might have just forgotten about the whole "rift" thing, and that they don't hibernate in the ground for millions of years, that they are made by an advanced alien race, that they could clone a lot of them and send them to probably anywhere (but the pacific rim universe is kinda unfinished so honestly idk), and I think the kaiju don't need polluted atmosphere only their creators do and probably super earth won't be able to figure out how to get through the rift in time, since I don't think they have drift technology
never mind I just saw thet you made another video adressing the comments, I'm sorry
Kaijus: Maybe
Xenos: Yes
The Thing: Absolutely not
The Thing gains all of its host's memories and is super intelligent, so i feel like it could definitely use a spaceship to travel off world and dominate the universe.
but from where it would gain the knowledge to build a spaceship?
@@Gab12345BR people lol and it doesnt have to build one it can just steal one like the pelican that all helldivers use to extract from missions back to the destroyers
Pretty sure the creators said that the thing needs to make contact with a good portion of its body to assimilate. A few cells ain’t gonna assimilate someone.
@@tchoythao1730 If we assume that than parts of this video are also invalid considering the video also believes the thing only needs a single cell.
@@Idothedance Yes, and therefore, it would not work in this case, and would not survive in Helldivers.
Helldivers against xenos would be a funny one
Tyrannids against helldivers would be a nightmare
Pacific Rims Kaijus are mass-produced weapons which was Stated in the Movie XS
There's a large chance that each of these invaders would end up being weaponized by whatever faction planet they land on
A guardsman from Death Korps of Krieg: We've just suffered tens of millions of casualties.
A average helldiver: Holy democracy, that's a great loss. How about yesterday?
3:11 By this point, I called the nearest Democracy squadron to you. FOR LIBERTY!
Same here, FOR SUPER EARTH!
One of the developers for the game said that the average life expectancy for a helldiver in the field is 2 minutes. Thay can use guns yes but thay are Cannon father.
Another thing to mention about the Thing. We can track our fellow Helldivers easily and even tell which way they're looking, so I have a feeling that Super Earth implants a tracking chip into every Citizen (I mean let's be real that's definitely fitting) and The Thing can't mimic metal if I remember correctly. So if someone is no longer trackable and then randomly shows up on the Super Destroyer that will instantly raise suspicion and then once they catch on to what is happening anyone who shows up and can't be tracked is just going to be killed by the Crew.
Three suggestions for more invading species:
Yeerks (Animorphs)
The Flood (Halo)
Cyber Men (Doctor Who)
Cyber men is basically the cyborgs from the first game, other two are interesting tho
@@hamarticdownfall9919 and we both know the cyborgs were defeated in the first game.
@sebastianbronowicki7073 exactly, no remnants of them exist anymore-- the automatons are wholey new threats with no connection
@@hamarticdownfall9919Cybermen are a threat to the Doctor who solos Helldivers, an army of them beats the Helldivers and Daleks....oh boy
@@hamarticdownfall9919 so why did they go straight to the cyborg's home?
Damn that whole shpeal about how every Helldiver is a trained solider before they even become a Helldiver makes them so much more badass to me now.
I don't agree with the assumption that Super Earth uses 710 fuel for everything, i think it's main use is FTL travel.
"And most of the stuff super earth says is a straight up lie-" "Hello, Ministry of Truth? This man right here."
In the Xenomorph universe, facehuggers have an acid to melt any sort of mask/helmet when they hug a host. 12:22
but yeah, Helldivers would have prepared mask and armor to overcome they acid, xenomorph only have a small chance of victory if helldivers attack an big hive, where we have super strong types of xenoid, and a queen comanding in they hive mind
I feel like the automatons would weaponize the Zenomorphs in someway, like intentionally catching and feeding them civilians or lesser native creatures that they have no need for, in other words, they would probably use them like the combine from half-life use headcrab zombies
I love how it's not " would the helldivers survive these enemies?", no, it's "would these enemies survive the HELLDIVERS??"
Yk facehuggers can break through helmets right- like they do it in alien and those helmets are 5 layers thick, also predator masks get broken by facehuggers too, also the acid of xenos is more potent than the terminds acid, simply because xeno blood can melt through multiple layers of hull, even melt predator tech with ease, which means that xeno acid is stronger than some of the most durable metals in fiction, as predator blades are capable of not shattering when using against people like wolverine and black panther
I explain this in the video.
If we're talking about Pacific Rim Kaiju, we see that there's a portal in the given movie we watch that they eventually start traveling out of when things are ready to sustain them. So it seems like they had a master race that genetically modifies them.
Space marine 2 video petition.
I think it's also important to keep in mind that the thing mainly spread through soft tissue. The terminids have exoskeletons, probably chitin, meaning the thing would struggle to move its cells as efficiently
One discussion I love is how doom slayer in 40k would do
He'd cleave through everything on the planet until super earth just nukes him
Lore doom slayer has a very complex power it would be difficult to scale him to other verses
There is literally nothing that anyone or anything in almost any universe can do to even hurt doom slayer
The most satisfying thing about this game are the explosions. Never played a game in what the explosions were so movie-type and awesome
The covenant vs helldivers would be pretty cool
For the mimics in Edge of Tomorrow, we all know that if an Alpha dies, time goes back a day. BUT if you kill the Omega, it also resets time. It actually resets so much, that they literally just don't attack you at all.
idea: who would survive half life 2's 7 hour war/combine invasion/rebellion or something along those lines
Bro the cannon life expectancy for a helldiver is 3 minutes after being deployed.
2 actually.
Idk what else you’d expect considering they get dropped literally into an enemy planet. And also considering they send a squad of 4 dudes to take on thousands. (Around 20 if you die too much) but a 20 for like 1000 trade is pretty damn good trade.
2:10 it legit says we are the elite peace keeping force in game lol
For the intro part, my theory is that the helldivers are clones based off the original (your character) and their memories are put in the next diver and yourself. Which is why all your divers have the exact same loadout, stratagems, armor, etc. It also implicates the idea that when you burn through reinforcements, you have to wait for more because they’re cloning new divers
You know that the Helldivers are freaking powerful when they only lose to an enemy that can basically hack the game.
Aliens can outsmart us, but they cant outsmart orbital laser and 500kg bomb
If you know anything about the World of Darkness setting that could be a cool setting for a survival challenge.
I'm thinking could either vampires or monster hunters survive the World of Darkness?
35:56 you ever see your diver come back from battle? bro is covered
Wait… you know the breach is a portal right? They are not INSIDE the earth. 25:12
Yh am pretty sure he is purposefully getting it wrong for engage
@ I saw he did a correction video after this comment
Helldivers are not trained, that's just how badass every super earth citizen just is out the gate