The Truth About Fred Astaire And Ginger Rogers Working Together
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
- A jealous wife armed with pointy things and a pair of bloody feet. What was fueling Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers' relationship?
#FredAstaire #OldHollywood #Musicals
At first, Rogers was underwhelmed | 0:00
They had one date | 0:50
Astaire was a reluctant partner | 1:55
Astaire was the better dancer | 2:59
He made her work hard | 3:38
They made ten movies together | 4:43
Astaire criticized her costumes | 5:43
Astaire's wife was jealous | 6:44
Rogers felt overshadowed | 7:34
They made each other better | 8:35
They actually got along well | 9:25
They transformed each other | 10:05
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What did you think of their onscreen chemistry?
I just love them! My all-time favorites!
I've Always Loved Ginger & Astaire Still watch Thier Movies never get old 🙂
I have no opinion if they did or didn't have chemistry off stage. I never thought to read more about it.
I just loved watching them dance together. I just can't imagine see 2 young excellent dancers with the passion they had for it, had no chemistry on or off the screen. They left us with such beautiful dancing for a life time 💞
Nice, great chemistry.
@@gem3506 the age differnce seemed too much for real life.
She is so underrated!! Not only could she dance, her acting was phenomenal and her comedic timing was unmatched and used by Lucille Ball in I Love Lucy and Ginger’s mom, Leele, helped Lucy as much as she did with all the RKO stars! I always say, Ginger and Fred! I can’t take my eyes off her when the two are dancing!! What a woman!! Thank you for this video! And her singing wasn’t the best, but it was full of personality and got better as she practiced!
How is she underrated??? She won an OSCAR!!
You're very confused. She was a HUGE star in her day. Get a clue.
@@meghanmisaliar hey stupid, there’s a whole psychology term called, The Ginger Rogers Syndrome” look it up. And slap yourself in the mouth next time you think of commenting to me.
Astaire was a smart man. He didn't want to be recognized as a team he wanted to be recognized as a star himself. Ginger was the same way. Ginger was a very hard worker, in her early days she would film a movie on Long Island during the day, then work on Broadway in a play at night!
Great video. It's amazing that after 90 years they're still making people happy with their dancing, acting and movies. I can never get enough of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, can't imagine one without the other in their movies together.
The truth is, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did ... except backwards, and wearing high heels!
In high heels: yes
Only backwards: no
Ginger Rogers said this herself. I hope you aren’t taking credit for the quote.
@@christysatfield8302
Ginger Rodgers in her biography indicated she did not say that. The quote is attributed to cartoonist Bob Thaves in his 'Frank and Ernest’ series. See Oxford Dictionary of Quotations under Misquotations. Regardless, they both were great dancers.
That quote is so old. And she wore flats a lot too.
Even as a kid, along time ago, there was something about the way they related in their movies that I noticed. They dated more than once, in New York, Fred says so in his autobiography. I think his wife didnt want him kissing Ginger in particular, because of their past. He did kiss other women in his movies just not her. I can't imagine all the time they spent close in rehearsals without forming some kind of bond, Ginger was so dazzling and full of life. Fred seemed to love his wife and his home life, his family. Ginger was so very devoted to her career
but still, when you see him interact with her as opposed to the other women he performed with, it's a whole other thing. They and those they associated with were too classy to tell all.
A fun mystery to unravel, I think, and easy to see in their films together! It's what makes us watch again and again
They kissed in "Carefree", "Castles" and "Barkley's".
@@lanecountybigfooters5716 that's true! I own all their movies. But what meant was I wonder if his wife showed up on the set of all his movies and knitted like she did on the fred/ ginger set, like with Rita,, Eleanor Powell, Cyd Charisse, etc.. There is an interview on UA-cam thats pretty new in which Ginger is interviewed about their pictures together and said she sat sewing for hours and she and Fred would go to lunch together, and that Ginger didn't feel particularly welcome in their home as a single lady. Very interesting interview for sure. They seemed very comfortable playing married in Barkleys and Castles. I guess she was his "work wife" for a whole there! Ha!
Glamour and sophistication, beautiful.
They were magical together. 🕊️🙏❤️
Ginger Rogers strong lady and so amazing and proud of her. She really inspired all women. They had magic on screen.
There will NEVER be a dancing couple like these 2. IMHO Ginger was a SUPERB dancer and actress not to mention those amazing legs and looks! SIZZLING!
Well, 1:30 in and there's some incorrect information. According to Fred's autobiography, they dated from October 1930 to June 1931and definitely had more than one date. There was a reason Phyllis insisted Fred marry her three days before they moved from NY to LA. Two months later, Fred ASKED for Ginger on "Rio" according to their mutual friend, Lucille Ball. Fred basically trained her in dance for 19 years, off and on. For instance, on "Carefree", Fred got 500 hours of rehearsal into his contract... on a locked stage, with a security guard and NO ONE was allowed in (except for Hermes Pan and Hal Borne). That's a lot of "dance rehearsal" imho. She decorated his dressing room at RKO (which he kept for a decade) for the holidays (with her own key) and he visited her frequently on her movies, with pictures as proof if you care to look. They exchanged letters and post cards throughout their lives. He bought her some really nice jewelry, too, (including a watch worth $7k), and stuck up for her against her detractors his entire life, contrary to his publicity team's successful propaganda. I suspect their relationship was more than just friendly or professional. But both of their autobiographies tell you what they want you to know, not necessarily the truth. And that may likely never be known exactly because they took their secrets to the grave - where they are buried 150 feet apart in a non-Hollywood cemetery in the Valley, where they are quite undisturbed now. Sorry for the book - Fred & Ginger are my obsession. :)
Thank you. That was very informative & likely very accurate.
It was more than merely professional.👍
I am obsessed with them, also. I watch them dance every day! Usually 3 to 4 numbers.
Another obsessed person here! Lovely post and I think you are right!
You are 1000% correct.
Fred's marriage to Phyllis was no secret when he arrived in Hollywood, and Ginger was already on her second spouse, so in those straitlaced times the only publicity angle could work with the fan mags was that there was a 'feud'.
The boring truth is that both were preternaturally dedicated professionals whose temperamental affinity made them click as a partnership.
Ginger Rogers and fred Astaire 🎉 🇬🇧 were such a great pair in the movies 🎥🇬🇧
I just think they were very great dancers and very great actors. I'm watching the movie Top Hat right now.🙂
Wow! I’m even more amazed by the fact that she could look as dazzling as Astaire and not be a trained dancer!
No training PRIOR to working with Fred Astaire and Hermes Pan, two of the best ever to dance and teach! If you watch the dances in chronological order, you can literally see her improvement. She initially danced, then added tap at an astonishing rate.
Both were very great performers
But Ginger Rogers was off the chain beautiful
Fred was a great talented dancer
But what made him much more eye catching was his beautiful partner she takes a back seat to no one
Not even Fred Astaire
To find any partner that fits into your life so we'll and builds your reputation
Fred Astaire should be so greatful to have found Ginger Rogers
I agree, completely! When it comes to Ginger, I am smitten.
It’s time to watch those two’s again ❣️thanks for sharing 👍
I know how that is. I retired as a senior design engineer and I worked with this really intelligent lady engineer and I told her I enjoyed working with her and she said she hated working with me and I was so shocked. I said why? She said because I’m endlessly checking everything and reviewing everything And that’s just my style of working. She felt I was questioning her abilities with the constant checking everything over again. I told her that even though she felt that way I was going to work doubly hard because I wanted her to enjoy working with me as much as I enjoyed working with her. And eventually I think I won her over because she was really gifted and smart. I was lucky to have such an intelligent partner for some of the projects we worked on together. She had moved here from South America and had a super nice husband and two really great kids. She was one of the nicest people I ever worked with, I was pretty sad she felt a little different about me. I wonder if she ever worked with someone that respected her as much as I did.
Your videos are the Gold Standard. So well researched, educational, and always entertaining. I appreciate and enjoy every one. Thank you
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Thanks for sharing and I love both movies they are together or individual.
This "only kissed once" business is false. Their last movie, "The Barkleys of Broadway" has quite a lot of kissing. And they look very convincing while doing it.
Yes, they do!
Ginger danced in lots of movies without Astaire. Just a few of those.... Sitting Pretty, Upperworld, In Person, Stage Door, Roxie Hart, Lady in the Dark
Astaire didn't dance because of his sister. He danced because he had one of the biggest stage mothers in the history of stage mothers.
always a joy to watch their movie !!!!💕
El duo mas PERFECTO..FOREVER!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for sharing 👍😀
And she died because she would not take insulin for her diabetes because of her Christian Science religion. Such a huge shame…a truly talented dancer and actress. I miss her total class!
Rita Hayworth was his real favourite dance partner.
Fred's best partner was Rita Hayworth. Rita was a dancer since her youth and was extraordinary in her technique.
He said that once.
Speak for yourself. Ginger Rogers & Fred Astaire partnership captures the joy & majesty of ethereal romance. Cyd Charisse & Vera Ellen had a magic & style of their own. I love the performing art of dance! It enraptures the soul!
Despite their more formal relationship off screen probably somewhat oweing to
Phyllis Astaire's jealous nature...they had tons of chemistry on screen and I believe Fred came to really appreciate working with Ginger.
According to Hermes Pan when Ginger told RKO executives in 1939 that she was done with musicals and wanted to broaden her horizons careerwise...Fred was very upset
and distressed and would fret over his future prospects.
As we all now know...today he is overwhelmingly regarded today as the greatest film dancer of the 20th century...danced on the ceiling...danced with coat racks...and lots of beautiful females...Rita Hayworth...Cyd Charrise...Judy Garland...Jane Powell...Leslie Caron...Audrey Hepburn, etc.etc.etc.
Yes. and even Paulette Goddard and Audrey Hepburn❗
I feel sad that Fred Astaire gets too much praise and recognition for his dancing, and i love him , too , but he gets too much. I wish that Eleanor POWELL and Ginger Rogers would get as much. Astaire even said that Powell was superior to him , but he refused anymore films with her !! And Hollywood started not appreciating her less because she was a woman !! They stopped putting her in films and i wish that she had fought them but sadly she did not.
They had an 8-movie contract after "Rio"; it was always going to end after that, whenever they completed that number of films. And Fred was probably shaking in his boots, since his career really hadn't taken off yet. Fred fretted over everything.
@@laraegodwin6008 Eleanor quit voluntarily in 1943 bc she wanted to be a full-time wife and mother. Since 1939 she had said she would not renew her MGM contract. She was engaged to an art director there, but after a serious illness she became Glenn Ford's fiancee. She made one independent film while he was on war service with the USMC. In the late 1940s MGM offered her a comeback but she refused.
I doubt EPowell cried. Ginger was an amazing trooper.
Eleanor Powell was easily Fred's equal in talent!
@@lanecountybigfooters5716 Fred was far more visionary with regards to dance, he choreographed numbers, directed his dance number and even had input on filming dance numbers with, detail as to, camera angles, set design and camera shots. Fred was a musician too. Astaire did more for marrying the art of dance to film than Eleanor Powell. The result, great art. He created timeless artistry, beautiful, unique, innovative performances captured on film. Eleanor Powell was a strong dancer but not a pioneer or an artistic innovator. In fact, all of her numbers kind of look the same to me. For me Powell is a good performer. But Astaire is great art, that takes me to another place. Thank you. I'm not even from that generation but I know what I like.
Ginger Rogers- what an incredible star!
In my opinion, the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.
She was only good because they partnered her w Fred A.
@@meghanmisaliar too bad your partner doesn’t make you look any better or vice versa 😅😅😅
@@Cward303 uhm, except they do. They literally said SHE made him sexier, and HE made her "classier". Pay attention hon.
@@Cward303 she admitted that she had no dancing style. She copied him. SHE said that.
Ginger Rogers was an excellent partner on stage & screen.
Not as good as Fred.
No one was ever better even including Gene Kelly.
Blood in the shoes 😱
Uh, extremely common for ballerinas,🤔 as well for tap dancers.Not shocking 😭
47 takes
I have always heard Fred’s breath was so bad that people would put Vicks in there nose. And for some reason they started hiding the truth…
How do you knit loudly? WTH!?
Lol!
I highly doubt that Eleanor Powell cried.
Astaire didn't like dancing with Powell because he said she danced "like a man" i.e. she as good or better than he could. Powell was also a trained gymnast.
Eleanor Powell was easily Fred's equal. Could have been some sour grapes!
What a strange choice of packground music. Thanks, anyway.
I heard they did spend time toether.
Katherine Hepburn famously said of them "He gave her class. She gave him sex"
That's just nasty......she got some nerve seeing she lived with a married man
I THINK it was more in terms of "sex appeal" but with Kate, she might have just said it to spite Ginger, with whom she competed. Fred refused to give her dance lessons.
I think Kate meant that Ginger gave Fred sex appeal.
this is a horrible video "sometimes more cheerful, sometimes more thoughtful." Gershwin loved Astaire for a reason that was good in the period - his voice was better suited for those kind of songs before better recordings made Sinatra or Elvis better. You also discount his contributions as a great vaudeville actor like buster keaton.
Prefer Gene Kelly..
Fred couldn’t sing
George Gershwin, Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Dorothy Fields and Cole Porter would disagree.
Astaire was a wonderful singer. I had a cabaret act in which I sang the classic songs written by some of the greatest songwriters in history just for him.
Every story you guys make you try to make the man look like the bad guy and the woman look like the "poor victim". I'm unsubbing.
You’re a weird hater
@@Cward303 and what am I "hating" on??? 🤣🤣
@@meghanmisaliar women, I guess, bruh?! Tf? Where’s that unsub?? 😅🤡
@@Cward303 and why would you assume Im a man?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Cward303 Im a WOMAN dunderhead. And guess what else?? I'm BLK!! Not everyone is Awhte man. You sound very sexist.
He seemed closeted. Dude is gay and she kept it to herself. Good job.
“Dude” was not gay. He was a true gentlemen with a lot of class.
I don't get gay from him. Haven't heard anyone else say it.
Don't like GR. He had better partners.