@@syahrainheihei9077 She also does some crowd control with her NA, idk what you're talking about. When she summoned Juè on her NA, she literally gathers enemy.
@@vizpecial I’ve had no issues with it. If you enjoy a character and aren’t comparing their numbers to the most meta DPS that broke the games numbers as well then you can learn the very flexible unit. Especially if you plan on using her as support for encore or future fusion characters and not the main DPS I’m using her as
I can relate to that Jihnsi LMAO, even 78 CR, I still get non-crits on her E, 3 times in a row. make's me pull my hair each time. had to reset a lot in ToA for that.
@@Resh_3221 yeah slap in a lvl 1 lightning puncher and shes good lmao, she may not be literally 1 man army but she can be happy with just 1 free 4 star unit with anysmal investment wdym? you changli creeps are creepy af
Looks to me like the answer is YES! Jiyan is heavily reliant on ult to have max damage output, but has high and consistent DPS over the duration of said ult Jinhsi has one heavy hitting attack and her ult every other rotation (not really applicable here) and otherwise will be off field Changli has a kit with near 100% damage uptime, really good parries like Jiyan (albeit not quite as good I imagine), a forte/ult/forte loop that deals maybe 70%-80% a similar invest Jinhsi's skill + ult, I mean overall I think she is the most consistent DPS character in the game with the highest uptime but that may just be me.
I think shes kinda mid. You need her ult most of time to do a lot of damage but her ult feels hard af to charge. Also, getting her forte without her ult feels clunky as shit. Might just be my skill issue though
@@rioshin8209 i dont think cancelling true sight dmg takes "skill" to avoid doing... Im also not saying that changli will be better than someone if played correctly.. my point is just "its not a fair comparison"
Jinshi alone suqs can't recharge her forte at all and in this his jinhsi already had the max forte before she enter the battle and his jinhsi is build the most while he left jiyan in midway non max skills.
Umm, Jinhsi is quite capable of doing damage on her own. It's funny how her damage distorted everyone's perspective of what good damage is. Of course I have S1R1 so I do more on my E, but even before that she was still hitting pretty hard without her incandescense stacks.
@@Osprey1994 exactly, I have jinshi and her weapon, changli and her weapon, yinlin and her weapon and jiyan and his weapon, jinshi feels just superior tbh, I clear everything so easily compated to when i use everyone else
If everyone starts with max forte and ult: jinhsi wins If everyone starts with 0 forte and ult: changli wins If everyone starts with forte and 0 ult: jinhsi wins If everyone starts with 0 forte and 0 ult: changli wins
this dude doesn't know how to even play with all of them... full stack on Jinhsi?? No Forte increase on Changli cuz you missed the attack after her skill twice??
well, all three of them are good in their own way, even danjin and chixia a 4 star can solo a tower stage if built properly and with a good rotation. Currently, there's no content that requires you to solo everything unless you're a tryhard. Just take whoever you like and build them properly while learning how to play them and have fun
Tbf the person in this video didnt play changli to her max potential, they didnt use the forte immediatly after the burst and wasnt able to use the full damage boost you get from that, plus they didnt use a true sight attack after each skill missing out on forte and large damage. Their changli is also not built as good as the other characters
In terms of output damage alone Jinshi win this easily with her double Nuke specially on full stack .. But the thing is Changli can enabler another Character with his outro skills specially fusion resonator while she also can doing so much damage on her own. I try it with Encore and they just go crazy
Btw i played a lot jinshi the last weeks in this dreamdoor mode n other trials Yesterday i wasnt sure about skipping jinshi but im glad i did I needed all my pulls for changli and she was worth it (Jinshi is very cool, dont get me wrong) Changlis gameplay is amazing (she also dash to enemys with her atks, very nice), she is very strong and she looks amazing Here in this video the Echos and gameplay of changli are not that great and she still was fast Even if she ends 5% slower then jinshi in 1v1, she is awesome for that because she works as dps alone, she works in team, she works as sup dps etc etc. No regrets at all
Changli is fun, but Jinhsi is exceptionally powerful. More so than Changli, but fun is more valuable than ease of use in a non PVP game that’s not all that hard in the first place.
not every character needs to be as nuke as jinshi, if every character is like that then i shouldve just not quit genshin since its nuke party on that game. what i want for changli is her game style people might differ but for me the fun is ultimately the driving factor of pulling for the character, and you dont even have to say it im pulling for xiangli yao as well why cause he looks fun, and dont get me wrong having 1 character like jinshi is ultimately fun and satiafying as well. thats why i have both of them
What a misleading content.. I mean you start with jinhsi full stack so ofc she will kill the fastest.. Try doing hologram6 solo with these 3 i doubt same result will happen because jinhsi cant stack alone.. But if enemy easy to die like this ofcjinhsi got advantage
@@saery4523 it is misleading because jinhsi is a nuke char and the other 2 is not.. unless you raise the boss hp it won't be fair it's as simple as that
@@saery4523 if that still doesn't make sense to you or you still don't get what i'm saying try reduce the boss hp to around 300k sure jinhsi will kill them in one skill meanwhile the other will need extra hit so more time needed for them that's why tier list is rating character basing it on rotation altho yes jinhsi still top them but it still doesn't change the fact that is mislead ppl
@@kayyam9959 Changli’s ult does more dmg than Jinhsi’s tho. If the boss was reduced to 300k health than that would be no problem, Jinhsi has her forte, Changli has her ult. As you seen from the video Changli’s basic attack doesn’t do much dmg, like most characters. It’s always about the forte, skill and burst, which they all had. Plus this video has no rotations in it, they’re solo-ing, so that alone tells you this isn’t exactly how they’re going to be when you’re playing with them, a full team obviously will have different results.
@@saery4523 you already know that's not how it's meant to be even more why i say it's misleading because you can't generate things alone and you need to do rotation to pull it off (example jinhsi) and no nuking dmg of changli can overdone jinhsi if that case happen it's only because you losing in the build i know both and comparing it so i'm sure of this
The thing is, these are single rotation showcase so Jinshi with a full stacks will definitely obliterate the boss with a low hp. If you put them in tower against a boss with 1.4m hp pool and require them to do 3 rotations a least, I'm pretty sure the result will be different
@@renzartworks4968 the things is, no one play toa with 1 unit especially for unit like jinshi if u do hazard tower. The best unit for solo toa is daijin assuming u are skilled and got stonk echo.. Jiyan, changli, jinshi if S0 R1.. will pale in comparison to daijin S6 with R1 emerald. Even if u put daijin at a bit lower sequence. She is still better tbh. Also, the facts that jinshi, u can hyper invest her. U can just bring lvl 1 yuanwu with lvl 1 echo. Also underlvled furina. U can clear TOA. But changli u need to bring strong sub dps or main dps to play with her.. so u need both invested. It's the same like encore, rover or encore sanhua etc. Else u not able to clear in time. It is a different category of unit.. but if u want to hyper invest one char.. jinshi just ahead from the competition.. if u compared limited 5* pools we got.
@@renzartworks4968 thou for comfy exploration. Changli is better tbh..exploring with playing jinshi stack for weak enemies is not fun.. Unless u got her S2. Moreover if u play hologram tryhard.. u will stack forte or energy before challenging the boss. So prebuilt forte stack should not be a concern. In TOA u will get full energy in the beginning.
Jinshi is the top DPS burst, Jian and Changli is DPS sustain. This will vary on the enemies you fight, since Jinshi is slow in hitting those breaks, you could change to Changli and Jian since they are fast. Plus Jinshi skills blinds your view, unlike Changli and Jian.
I have Jiyan and Changli i really like playing Changli, the damage is amazing and the best part is her damage is elemental skill so you dont need high energy for the case in jiyan but they two are really good dps
what i felt using rental changli in tactical simularca with jinhsi is, changli have fast aspd like danjin, so its easier to parry than using jinhsi with her slightly delayed animation, thus making parry window correction is smaller than changli, but when the enemy is on break, jinhsi nuke beats changli, lol so i think changli is good for opening while jinhsi is for nuking like how some pepol said here, lol
The point is Changli open for many many rotation as her skill has many swap time making her rotation special, you can't do it with Jinhsi and Jiyan as they're on field dps
@@yooonavarro309 i have all 3… im just saying this is not representative, Jiyan has the best dedicated support rn with mortefi, so he is by far stronger than changli, at least for now.
I think the comparation was ok except Jinshi started with full forte and Jiyan also started with almost full forte, to be complete fair you could also gave Changli full forte to start since her best combo is forte+Liberation+forte
Depends on how you build the characters and what teamates you give them but changli is very good, my team is Changli, Jianxin and Sanhua I also give Changli 2 echos with crit damage and it turn out very good.
Dayumm mann, what phone or gadget are you using? Mine was not smooth as like that. And that graphics??!! In a phone?? I only sees that kind of visuals in pc like wow😮❤ Amazing vid keep it up.
hes using a gaming phone at least 12/512 memory..smooth playing with max settings..unlike smartphone (exept ULTRA or iphone) some phone are super laggy
I love all the comments whining about Changli’s skill expression and saying she’s not as good as Jinhsi because of it. Y’all are literally arguing for MORE pay-to-win. Changli isn’t bad just because you can’t be braindead while playing her. You guys would cry at an actual skill dependent game.
Not really, if you put in the fact that Jiyan can group up enemies, it makes more sense. But Changli has probably better future teams than the other 2. She's just going to be better when we get newer units.
Jinhsi weakness is her team rotation, it required alot from her team to help her stack up her forte. but her personal rotation is just way faster than any other character. Changli is a quick swap dps with no grouping cabability, and Jiyan is ugabunga hold the attack button to group everything and deal massive damage, so his dps should be lower.
Dude this is a bad comparison he started the fight with max forte on jinhsi already and he didn't unlocked all talents on jiyan like jinhsi. This is not fair comparison.
It's always a struggle for me to see the nuke dmg because she hits so strong that the nuke numbers won't appear anymore bc the enemies dies instantly 💀
Brain-dead people in the chat don't know that the rotations are just biased and not optimal for all. Like Jhinshi full stacks is the most impractical thing I've seen, she'll need a team to get those stacks full and without those she's gonna only do 60k dmg after a long as normal attack string twice to beat the boss, do it with zero stacks on everyone and build them without supports then let's see whose that actual winner coz that's what ur gonna see in a practical combat scenario Ultimate can be kept ready as tower of adversity also gives full energy at start
Ok now try the same test with a group of enemy or the 2 boss that comes in wave i am sure changli or jiyan will suprass changli because her kit is single targeted enemies oriented (which is not bad) but jiyan and changli can take out mobs quicker (because they are multitargeted)
The thing is, jinshi can do her entire rotation again and pump out the same amounts of damage in just 4~5 seconds, she is relentless, she will keep nuking
Jinshi is so good character in this game Nuke damage, CC enemys, Ez gameplay, can hit enemy on the air without breaking the combo and dodge the enemy damage so its very usefull for potato devices, Have 2 animation attack and very well design Mostly Perfect Caracter for now Yaahh.. Maybe because he's a Sentinel, his kit was made special and so strong so can't wait for the next sentinel😅
jinshi is good but u need to rely on teamate to fully utilize her forte , she not a character u can use for solo run, n this video already show her forte already full up which is why she finish quicker. changli is more reliable dps due to her consistency, not too mention her Traces can give enemy debuff that is increase damage taken on fusion.. while jiyan is really good in crowd control, but his charm is when he use resonance liberation which boost his dps more..... both jiyan n changli can do solo run... but i pick changli cuz for booba
@@Israeldi-t1p most of the high end phones from various companies work well with this game. Don't need to get a specific gaming phone like Asus ROG or Redmagic Pro to run it this smooth. I play this on the Z Fold 4 just fine and have tested this on the S23 Ultra also.
I do own jinhsi but changli is far better in clearing out enemies this comparison is quite unfair just because jinhsi has her nuke up ofc she would finish it the fastest she's literally the highest damage output ingame with max forte
bro sry about that but your changli is build incorrectly. Only 8.6% resonance skill damage is bad cuz almost all of her skills scale of that also resonance liberation damage could be higher than 18.8%, at least 25% i think, Dont build heavy attack bonus and standard damage bonus as none of the skills scale on that lol, also way to many def and hp, hp%. still a far way to go xD tip. only lvl the echos but don't give them substats, that'll make comparisons more consistent!
The stats they gave her in story was trash lol. It was a terrible way to see how strong a character could be. The most Story trial did was give everyone an idea of how she played.
who ever still downplayed jinhsi is clearly some butthurt haters. she is clearly the winner because she has two fckng nuke skill and can be use back to back very fast. you only need to click her basic attack for 8 times and boom you go the nuke!!. if lucky, you can get faster battery in her echo for faster ultimate. her dps damage also consistenly can be 1k and above but who need dps when you can just nuke everything in AOE?? pretty much broken and you cant denied it. changli is a bit technical but her ulti is also nuke type which makes her great too. i love jinyan but it seems, he need to has better basic damage output if they dont want to buff his ulti. but i still impressed of jinhsi. whoever thought to put two nuke in her kit is brilliant. and it caters to a not-so-pro dps user like me. wonder how other magistrate will be..maybe super healer or super shielder?
S - Sequence = Dupes/ Copies beyond the first one. In Genshin it's called Constellations. In Honkai Star Rail it's called Eidolons. R - Rank = Signature Weapon. The weapon that released along with said character. Weapon Ranks can be increased by combining more copies of the same weapon. Rank caps at 5 S0 - No dupes. Just base character. R1 - Rank 1 Signature weapon. R0 would indicate they are not using the character's Signature weapon and are using something else.
Jiyan: Crowd Control
Jinhsi: Nuke
Changli: Consistent Dps
Jinshi also has huge aoe in her skill and ultimate with decent crowd control on her basic attacks, She is cracked.
@@tuna7254yknow Aoe and crowd control are 2 separate things right?
@@syahrainheihei9077 She also does some crowd control with her NA, idk what you're talking about. When she summoned Juè on her NA, she literally gathers enemy.
@@nyes4596 thats not crowd control my god stop saying bull*hit then changli has crowd control too...
@@syahrainheihei9077He knows that and Jinhsi does have crowd control mechanic in her NA sequence. So nothing's wrong with his statement.
yeah jinshi so strong atm,
BUT LOOK AT THAT CHANGLI GAMEPLAY, im not gonna pass on that, her playstyle so smooth
waste your gems then and skip the new support
her playstyle is everything but smooth
(edit: needs good practice and a lot of swap cancelling)
I severely regret telling myself to ignore Changli after playing her story.
@@vizpecial I’ve had no issues with it. If you enjoy a character and aren’t comparing their numbers to the most meta DPS that broke the games numbers as well then you can learn the very flexible unit. Especially if you plan on using her as support for encore or future fusion characters and not the main DPS I’m using her as
Jiyan : need rotation
Jinshi : need to pray
Changli : still need rotation but overall good on her own
I can relate to that Jihnsi LMAO, even 78 CR, I still get non-crits on her E, 3 times in a row. make's me pull my hair each time. had to reset a lot in ToA for that.
Jinshi also need rotation lmao, she needs her teammates help to build up forte. and the outro skill to build more.
@@Resh_3221 yeah slap in a lvl 1 lightning puncher and shes good lmao, she may not be literally 1 man army but she can be happy with just 1 free 4 star unit with anysmal investment wdym? you changli creeps are creepy af
@@reedsad4652how's that creepy bruh, he just said jinshi needs a rotation to build forte
@@Omega-ol8mt he's probably from the mintpicker community
so My Magistre still the strongest and fastest killing machine
@@k-BlazeWW30 as she should be
@@k-BlazeWW30 she’s like a WuWa’s Archeron so of course Kuro made her stronger and at the top (for now)
Yeah, Lore wise she's also strongest, cuz she's not like Jiyan where JIyan's Dragon is just an Aura.. Her dragon is Real DRAGON.
Dragon Beam!!!
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 Disagreed....Jinhsi power come from Sentinel Jue while Jiyan awaken his power from himself. You compare 2vs1
Looks to me like the answer is YES!
Jiyan is heavily reliant on ult to have max damage output, but has high and consistent DPS over the duration of said ult
Jinhsi has one heavy hitting attack and her ult every other rotation (not really applicable here) and otherwise will be off field
Changli has a kit with near 100% damage uptime, really good parries like Jiyan (albeit not quite as good I imagine), a forte/ult/forte loop that deals maybe 70%-80% a similar invest Jinhsi's skill + ult, I mean overall I think she is the most consistent DPS character in the game with the highest uptime but that may just be me.
I think shes kinda mid. You need her ult most of time to do a lot of damage but her ult feels hard af to charge. Also, getting her forte without her ult feels clunky as shit. Might just be my skill issue though
@@amazingwormy8453 skill issue. Requiring more skill doesn't mean the character is mid.
@@amazingwormy8453 you have to know how to gain forte stacks more efficiently. She is more technical than Jinhsi.
@@Knell. What i find is skill > BA > skill > BA, so it will already give 2 stack of forte circuit.
@@lonemarkkingoftypos3722 you could also do into Intro > Skill > BS4 > Skill to get 4 stacks for nuke.
Changli was played VERY inefficiently in this run, not a fair comparison.
@@Kiru0411 thats the point changli need more skill to play with almost similar outcome maybe a little bit higher
@@rioshin8209 i dont think cancelling true sight dmg takes "skill" to avoid doing... Im also not saying that changli will be better than someone if played correctly.. my point is just "its not a fair comparison"
@@Kiru0411 and still performed better than jiyan...
Dude jiyan lost literally half of his liberation
And u talking about changli getting played inefficiently?
Jinhsi is a nuke and one man army and stands proudly on top as the magistrate she is
Jinshi alone suqs can't recharge her forte at all and in this his jinhsi already had the max forte before she enter the battle and his jinhsi is build the most while he left jiyan in midway non max skills.
@user-ww9ww1pp2u the comparison might not be optimal but we already know that Jinhsi is the current best single target DPS cuz of maths.
shes not one man army. she needs someone to fill up forte bar
@@scarletHerbst one man army HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now we know you dont know how to play her
some people jealous here to not have here :|
Jinshi can't do Dmg alone without enough stacks of forte from her team while changli is a True solo dps on field anytime, I see.
@@bellykoh6863 Encore to solo dps every time 😅
Umm, Jinhsi is quite capable of doing damage on her own. It's funny how her damage distorted everyone's perspective of what good damage is. Of course I have S1R1 so I do more on my E, but even before that she was still hitting pretty hard without her incandescense stacks.
@@Osprey1994 exactly, I have jinshi and her weapon, changli and her weapon, yinlin and her weapon and jiyan and his weapon, jinshi feels just superior tbh, I clear everything so easily compated to when i use everyone else
How did you get that from this video😅 Jinhsi very well does dmg alone
@@saery4523 Her concerto energy is how she gets to deal dmg, without it she hits like a limp noodle. Good luck filling it solo to 100%.
If you come full stack, obviously Jinshi wins easily.
With 0 stacks, she will have difficulty maxing out all of these stacks alone.
do u think chang li can solo TOA hazard floor 2 ?
then Jiyan should also get 0 energy to be fair.
@@StarRail-mp7dg 🗣️🗣️🗣️
okay, but they literally all started with max ult and forte like, lol
@@taichiarasoi776 No, it's different.
Changli and Jyan have a quick recharge of the forte unlike Jinshi who takes a long time to refill it on its own.
If everyone starts with max forte and ult: jinhsi wins
If everyone starts with 0 forte and ult: changli wins
If everyone starts with forte and 0 ult: jinhsi wins
If everyone starts with 0 forte and 0 ult: changli wins
This is probably the only comment in this entire comment section I can agree with :D
whats the difference between scenario 2 and 3
@@ilyysm he trynna cope with losin 50/50 on jinhsi nd convince himself that Changli better
Lemme do another one :
If everyone starts with full team In ToA Jinhsi clears fastest 🤫
@@-IGRIS- aw youre so adorable, i have jinhsi s0r1 and i have no changli lol. I love seeing people like you so confidently wrong
Jinhsi: How does it feel that the apprentice surpasses her teacher?
That's the whole point. Like Anakin to Obiwan.
but Changli has 2 bigger advantages over Jinshi. xD
@@ParafrostVright.. that’s the whole goal!
this dude doesn't know how to even play with all of them... full stack on Jinhsi?? No Forte increase on Changli cuz you missed the attack after her skill twice??
He used fullstack on skill bar tho 😂
well, all three of them are good in their own way, even danjin and chixia a 4 star can solo a tower stage if built properly and with a good rotation. Currently, there's no content that requires you to solo everything unless you're a tryhard. Just take whoever you like and build them properly while learning how to play them and have fun
Jiyan: CC and Parry God
Jinshi: Queen of Nuke (but heavily relies on coordinated attk)
Changli: DPS go vroom vroom
It depends in some situations jinyan and Changli would be better for constant damage and jinyan because he can group up smaller enemies
too bad the game peak is full of bosses
@@재현7704Jiyan single target dmg is very high he's not Venti lol😂 I literally beat tower Mephis with Jiyan, Mortefi and Havoc Rover
well we ara talking about a team game, so jinhsi will shine more, also she has insane aoe dmg it's almost like having a grouping jiyan
@@wrath8704sorry to say to you encore beat jiyan in any ways😂 that's why many people didn't hesitate to skip
@@yooonavarro309Lil bro show one video where encore beats jiyan😂
You don't have the character doesn't mean it's bad
Magistrate took it down like it was nothing
Jinshi is just nuke but I'm surprised by changli damage output. That's really good especially for being a sub DPS
Tbf the person in this video didnt play changli to her max potential, they didnt use the forte immediatly after the burst and wasnt able to use the full damage boost you get from that, plus they didnt use a true sight attack after each skill missing out on forte and large damage. Their changli is also not built as good as the other characters
jinhsi is in her own tier we alll know that but changli is mommmy and also really good if u build her properly
In terms of output damage alone Jinshi win this easily with her double Nuke specially on full stack .. But the thing is Changli can enabler another Character with his outro skills specially fusion resonator while she also can doing so much damage on her own. I try it with Encore and they just go crazy
Btw i played a lot jinshi the last weeks in this dreamdoor mode n other trials
Yesterday i wasnt sure about skipping jinshi but im glad i did
I needed all my pulls for changli and she was worth it
(Jinshi is very cool, dont get me wrong)
Changlis gameplay is amazing (she also dash to enemys with her atks, very nice), she is very strong and she looks amazing
Here in this video the Echos and gameplay of changli are not that great and she still was fast
Even if she ends 5% slower then jinshi in 1v1, she is awesome for that because she works as dps alone, she works in team, she works as sup dps etc etc.
No regrets at all
Changli is fun, but Jinhsi is exceptionally powerful. More so than Changli, but fun is more valuable than ease of use in a non PVP game that’s not all that hard in the first place.
I missed Jiyan, but I got Yinlin and Jinshi, now I want to get Changli, she's so damn hot
you cancel Chanli forte 2 times wtf
When changli gonna get her signature phoenix echo
@@christianjaybermudez6447 i doubt they will have echo phoenix in the near future.since changli is not super main dps like jhinsi.
Normalizing stats is pretty important for testing, and unfortunately it's difficult to do that in this game.
That's quite lore accurate for a Magistrate
There is a Miss when using changli, sorry if it offends 😅
If you have yinlin, just stick with chalcaro. Not for damage but the amount of lightning in ur screen is so satisfying.
not every character needs to be as nuke as jinshi, if every character is like that then i shouldve just not quit genshin since its nuke party on that game. what i want for changli is her game style people might differ but for me the fun is ultimately the driving factor of pulling for the character, and you dont even have to say it im pulling for xiangli yao as well why cause he looks fun, and dont get me wrong having 1 character like jinshi is ultimately fun and satiafying as well. thats why i have both of them
I just wanna say thank god you’re not in charge of the game.
So why do people use fusion set on changli and not the atk set? Feel like she would be on field for a long time
I would be lovely to see rover compete with these DPS resonator too
The phone is running more smooth than my laptop :D
"The student (Jinshi) surpasses the teacher(Changli)"
@@ab.manners6532 nah changli is better she has a sub dps future but jinshi doesnt have it
Jinshi is just ur average dps who's going to get powercrept , changli is a hybrid same as yinlin both better than jinshi
Lmao so many salty people these replies
@@khaledbou7770watch jinhsi not get powercrept anytime soon.
@@xHaaku same way people were talking about jiyan yeah? This is a gacha game u really must be either new or naive to think so
What a misleading content.. I mean you start with jinhsi full stack so ofc she will kill the fastest.. Try doing hologram6 solo with these 3 i doubt same result will happen because jinhsi cant stack alone.. But if enemy easy to die like this ofcjinhsi got advantage
It’s not misleading at all, they all started with stack and ult, which at the end of the day is all that matters
@@saery4523 it is misleading because jinhsi is a nuke char and the other 2 is not.. unless you raise the boss hp it won't be fair it's as simple as that
@@saery4523 if that still doesn't make sense to you or you still don't get what i'm saying try reduce the boss hp to around 300k sure jinhsi will kill them in one skill meanwhile the other will need extra hit so more time needed for them that's why tier list is rating character basing it on rotation altho yes jinhsi still top them but it still doesn't change the fact that is mislead ppl
@@kayyam9959 Changli’s ult does more dmg than Jinhsi’s tho. If the boss was reduced to 300k health than that would be no problem, Jinhsi has her forte, Changli has her ult. As you seen from the video Changli’s basic attack doesn’t do much dmg, like most characters. It’s always about the forte, skill and burst, which they all had. Plus this video has no rotations in it, they’re solo-ing, so that alone tells you this isn’t exactly how they’re going to be when you’re playing with them, a full team obviously will have different results.
@@saery4523 you already know that's not how it's meant to be even more why i say it's misleading because you can't generate things alone and you need to do rotation to pull it off (example jinhsi) and no nuking dmg of changli can overdone jinhsi if that case happen it's only because you losing in the build i know both and comparing it so i'm sure of this
The thing is, these are single rotation showcase so Jinshi with a full stacks will definitely obliterate the boss with a low hp.
If you put them in tower against a boss with 1.4m hp pool and require them to do 3 rotations a least, I'm pretty sure the result will be different
nah don't cope with ToA, the game isn't always ToA. If we put Jinhsi 0 Stack. Then might as well put Jiyan ult to 0 energy if that's the case.
@@재현7704 the game isn't all about toa but the title clearly says "best dps"
How can you test a character's dps with a weak enemy?
Results will still be Jinhsi #1 the Jiyan and Chang Li
@@renzartworks4968 the things is, no one play toa with 1 unit especially for unit like jinshi if u do hazard tower.
The best unit for solo toa is daijin assuming u are skilled and got stonk echo.. Jiyan, changli, jinshi if S0 R1.. will pale in comparison to daijin S6 with R1 emerald. Even if u put daijin at a bit lower sequence. She is still better tbh.
Also, the facts that jinshi, u can hyper invest her. U can just bring lvl 1 yuanwu with lvl 1 echo. Also underlvled furina. U can clear TOA.
But changli u need to bring strong sub dps or main dps to play with her.. so u need both invested. It's the same like encore, rover or encore sanhua etc.
Else u not able to clear in time.
It is a different category of unit.. but if u want to hyper invest one char.. jinshi just ahead from the competition.. if u compared limited 5* pools we got.
@@renzartworks4968 thou for comfy exploration. Changli is better tbh..exploring with playing jinshi stack for weak enemies is not fun.. Unless u got her S2.
Moreover if u play hologram tryhard.. u will stack forte or energy before challenging the boss. So prebuilt forte stack should not be a concern.
In TOA u will get full energy in the beginning.
Jinshi is the top DPS burst, Jian and Changli is DPS sustain. This will vary on the enemies you fight, since Jinshi is slow in hitting those breaks, you could change to Changli and Jian since they are fast. Plus Jinshi skills blinds your view, unlike Changli and Jian.
Yeah the problem is Changli doesn't really have good teammates that perfectly synergize with her hopefully that will get fixed
If there is a magistrate in Jinzhou, we need like a magistrate for each state representing their sentinel or spiritual animal 🤩
I have Jiyan and Changli i really like playing Changli, the damage is amazing and the best part is her damage is elemental skill so you dont need high energy for the case in jiyan but they two are really good dps
what i felt using rental changli in tactical simularca with jinhsi is, changli have fast aspd like danjin, so its easier to parry than using jinhsi with her slightly delayed animation, thus making parry window correction is smaller than changli, but when the enemy is on break, jinhsi nuke beats changli, lol
so i think changli is good for opening while jinhsi is for nuking like how some pepol said here, lol
The point is Changli open for many many rotation as her skill has many swap time making her rotation special, you can't do it with Jinhsi and Jiyan as they're on field dps
May i know how ur Jinhsi have 40.5% skill damage bonus?
the weapon maybe? not sure
why didn u do the xiangliyao comparison like this ??? instead of switching characters to boost damage
Ok now fully buff jiyan…
Why so many people cope on jiyan lmao😂 it's like playing zzz click simulator 😂
@@yooonavarro309 i have all 3… im just saying this is not representative, Jiyan has the best dedicated support rn with mortefi, so he is by far stronger than changli, at least for now.
@@nuckchorris1396 I use verina yuanwu and i think jinhsi is better in terms of dmg but jiyan is definitely close and has utility like perfect parry
@@sentiss3528 yes jinsis damage is insane
@@yooonavarro309 Omg true ... jiyan rlly plays like ZZZ. 💀
whats the song used in this video?
Rover Havoc should include them
The Jinshi with a Crit DMG Jué and 12% of Crit DMG on substats feels ilegal
I think the comparation was ok except Jinshi started with full forte and Jiyan also started with almost full forte, to be complete fair you could also gave Changli full forte to start since her best combo is forte+Liberation+forte
Depends on how you build the characters and what teamates you give them but changli is very good, my team is Changli, Jianxin and Sanhua I also give Changli 2 echos with crit damage and it turn out very good.
Jiyan: king of the crowd
Jinhsi: queen in one goal
Changli: all together, but less dmg
Dayumm mann, what phone or gadget are you using? Mine was not smooth as like that. And that graphics??!! In a phone?? I only sees that kind of visuals in pc like wow😮❤
Amazing vid keep it up.
If you’re going to run Jiyan solo you really need to give him a lot more ER.
How do you get those indicators for appear in the bottom right corner of the screen?
It's a phone or emu
Playing as Changli reminds me a lot of Devil May Cry 5 lol
I think a showcase against hologram is better and more fair. 1st alone, and 2nd with team comps.
And with all units starting with 0 ult, 0 forte.
hes using a gaming phone at least 12/512 memory..smooth playing with max settings..unlike smartphone (exept ULTRA or iphone) some phone are super laggy
After getting changli I can priory say she is my favourite and better than jiyan but jinshi is also on the top
Well we have very few players that have 1M nuke Jinhsi already, so no one ever came close 🗿
Damage wise Jhinsi is the strongest but only if she has all 50 stacks. If Consistent DMG Jihyan and Changli are the way to go.
Nice to see that Jinhsi is still the Nuclear Warhead out of all available characters.
I love all the comments whining about Changli’s skill expression and saying she’s not as good as Jinhsi because of it. Y’all are literally arguing for MORE pay-to-win. Changli isn’t bad just because you can’t be braindead while playing her. You guys would cry at an actual skill dependent game.
Jinshi is too OP, so changli only better than Jiyan that's fine
Not really, if you put in the fact that Jiyan can group up enemies, it makes more sense.
But Changli has probably better future teams than the other 2. She's just going to be better when we get newer units.
Jinhsi weakness is her team rotation, it required alot from her team to help her stack up her forte. but her personal rotation is just way faster than any other character. Changli is a quick swap dps with no grouping cabability, and Jiyan is ugabunga hold the attack button to group everything and deal massive damage, so his dps should be lower.
Dude this is a bad comparison he started the fight with max forte on jinhsi already and he didn't unlocked all talents on jiyan like jinhsi.
This is not fair comparison.
@@user-ww9ww1pp2u real
People claiming "its not fair, jinhsi started full forte" just like its the same about all of them
Jiyan crowd control more than makes up for the dmg. I have Both jiyan and jinshi
I'm happy I rolled for jinshi and didn't skip her she literally nukes every boss while me trying to know what damage I'm getting from the skill💀
It's always a struggle for me to see the nuke dmg because she hits so strong that the nuke numbers won't appear anymore bc the enemies dies instantly 💀
Brain-dead people in the chat don't know that the rotations are just biased and not optimal for all.
Like Jhinshi full stacks is the most impractical thing I've seen, she'll need a team to get those stacks full and without those she's gonna only do 60k dmg after a long as normal attack string twice to beat the boss, do it with zero stacks on everyone and build them without supports then let's see whose that actual winner coz that's what ur gonna see in a practical combat scenario
Ultimate can be kept ready as tower of adversity also gives full energy at start
And jinshi gonna have her dedicated support coming in next patch. Im seeing 400-500k number for f2p.
Ok now try the same test with a group of enemy or the 2 boss that comes in wave i am sure changli or jiyan will suprass changli because her kit is single targeted enemies oriented (which is not bad) but jiyan and changli can take out mobs quicker (because they are multitargeted)
@@JAYGURUDEVMFG changli or jiyan will surpass changli.. u lost me there😅
@@SyrFlora wops i meant surpass jinshi
Her double nukes can take down multiple enemies I literally just nuke the multiple tacet discards in the tacet field ez pz
@@JAYGURUDEVMFG mr.copium Jinhsi can also do AoE damage 🤡
The thing is, jinshi can do her entire rotation again and pump out the same amounts of damage in just 4~5 seconds, she is relentless, she will keep nuking
Jinshi is so good character in this game
Nuke damage, CC enemys, Ez gameplay, can hit enemy on the air without breaking the combo and dodge the enemy damage so its very usefull for potato devices, Have 2 animation attack and very well design
Mostly Perfect Caracter for now
Yaahh.. Maybe because he's a Sentinel, his kit was made special and so strong
so can't wait for the next sentinel😅
jinshi is good but u need to rely on teamate to fully utilize her forte , she not a character u can use for solo run, n this video already show her forte already full up which is why she finish quicker.
changli is more reliable dps due to her consistency, not too mention her Traces can give enemy debuff that is increase damage taken on fusion..
while jiyan is really good in crowd control, but his charm is when he use resonance liberation which boost his dps more.....
both jiyan n changli can do solo run... but i pick changli cuz for booba
@@Emperor-oh7nb I see you're a man of culture as well 🗿
My bro🗿
I love mommy Changli and sister Jinhsi, I also love mommy Yinlin 😊
This is definitely the Lance Armstrong of DPS comparison.
What kind of phone you are using?
@@god7762 hes using gaming phone at least 12/512 memory..its super smooth when you get gaming phone..unlike smartphone is super laggy
@@Israeldi-t1p most of the high end phones from various companies work well with this game. Don't need to get a specific gaming phone like Asus ROG or Redmagic Pro to run it this smooth. I play this on the Z Fold 4 just fine and have tested this on the S23 Ultra also.
I do own jinhsi but changli is far better in clearing out enemies this comparison is quite unfair just because jinhsi has her nuke up ofc she would finish it the fastest she's literally the highest damage output ingame with max forte
Why is there a stuttering during changlis resonance liberation?I though my phone was causing the problem but it doesn't seems to be the case
@@saadsylas9824 yeah bro my mob too, I thought my device can’t handle her hotness but it seems like no one can handle that
@@saadsylas9824 nerf her special effect.. to much to handle.. or maybe it bugged ahaha🤣
@@SyrFlora Lol
@@saadsylas9824 it’s laggy, an issue on Kuro’s end, hope they fix it
That changli game play couldve been better (lost 3 stacks)
Should I switch out my JIYAN for Changli?
I have jiyan at jinhsi
Jiyan for physical
And jinhsi for burst
I just did I full hitless run of crownless and monkey hologram lv 6 incase anyone cares what solo changli combos look like on high lv content
What movil do you have?
Considering changli's buffs I say it's very very good
bro sry about that but your changli is build incorrectly. Only 8.6% resonance skill damage is bad cuz almost all of her skills scale of that also resonance liberation damage could be higher than 18.8%, at least 25% i think, Dont build heavy attack bonus and standard damage bonus as none of the skills scale on that lol, also way to many def and hp, hp%. still a far way to go xD
tip. only lvl the echos but don't give them substats, that'll make comparisons more consistent!
I feel like Changli got nerfed. She was way stronger when I was testing her in story.
The stats they gave her in story was trash lol. It was a terrible way to see how strong a character could be. The most Story trial did was give everyone an idea of how she played.
So ive got Jiyan C3 and managed to get Changli and her weapon. Who should i aim for? Also got Mortefi c6, verina c1
You can aim for jiyan then you can build changli as support dps
Ok, i got it. After watching some comparison, i have conclusion that the dragon jue is female. I can't see the mr.p on there.
My changli does 41k skill 101k ult open world. This damage is a little off
u shld do this again, Jiyan's ult didn't crit
I was only able to knock out the signal JIHSI It never happened to me, we’ll save up for it 😊
changli mechanics weren't optimal, could have true sight charged after each of the two skills at the end
If you started this fight with zero forte stacks Changli would no diff both of them.
I won't be surprised if players would ask devs to buff Changli if they skipped Jhinsi.
Нет смысла
who ever still downplayed jinhsi is clearly some butthurt haters. she is clearly the winner because she has two fckng nuke skill and can be use back to back very fast. you only need to click her basic attack for 8 times and boom you go the nuke!!. if lucky, you can get faster battery in her echo for faster ultimate. her dps damage also consistenly can be 1k and above but who need dps when you can just nuke everything in AOE?? pretty much broken and you cant denied it. changli is a bit technical but her ulti is also nuke type which makes her great too. i love jinyan but it seems, he need to has better basic damage output if they dont want to buff his ulti. but i still impressed of jinhsi. whoever thought to put two nuke in her kit is brilliant. and it caters to a not-so-pro dps user like me. wonder how other magistrate will be..maybe super healer or super shielder?
That's kind of an unfair comparison since jinshi already had max forte stacks
What does "S0R1" indicate? I see this format a lot for character descriptions for this game.
@@matheaumichalak7537 no dupes plus signature weapon
S - Sequence = Dupes/ Copies beyond the first one. In Genshin it's called Constellations. In Honkai Star Rail it's called Eidolons.
R - Rank = Signature Weapon. The weapon that released along with said character. Weapon Ranks can be increased by combining more copies of the same weapon. Rank caps at 5
S0 - No dupes. Just base character.
R1 - Rank 1 Signature weapon. R0 would indicate they are not using the character's Signature weapon and are using something else.
You should do it in hologram bosses because dome animations are really long and the time stop goes unnoticed
Jinshi still the Queen of DPS. Changli looks so weak it took her such a long time to kill.
When Changli 2 elemental dmg eco vs 1 elemental dmg and 1 atk eco??
2 Ele always better.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 Jinhsi with sign weapon: 😮
@@GlacioDreadmane jinhsi sign weapon is attribute 12% , unlike other weapon
Jinhsi with signature and 1 elemental and 1 atk 3 cost echo is literally better
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 Literally not that much better than having one of them atk.
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How u het 50+ cr,,?? Its food buf or something,,??
Im happy Jinhsi is on top.
Now saving for Scar ❤